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[wind dune]

💔

[fair sail]

A Qajar path would’ve been a good way to have a Islamist focus tree since the Qajars were weak mentally n physically and were easy to manipulate so could’ve had them as a puppet monarch while an ayatollah reigned

Oh well, missed opportunity

[coral drift]

Thank God we have Nath Roy!!!

[coral drift]

Or even when the British toppled the Pahlavis

He's already 60 by then

[drowsy marsh]

Meant Qajar yeah

[bright spade]

Eh honestly I could take it or leave it

Still don't really see how a qajar path would be interesting

[quick sleet]

Send money to hamas and form al Jazeera

[bright spade]

Qajar not qatar

[quick sleet]

Ohhhhh

[drowsy marsh]

Revanchist wars against Russia

Reclaim Azerbaijan etc

More larp

[bright spade]

Any Iranian path (beside the communists) would probably do that though

Not really a qajar exclusive thing

[drowsy marsh]

Yeah but it doesn’t make sense

[bright spade]

How so?

[drowsy marsh]

SUMKA didn’t even exist during HOI4s period

[bright spade]

Yeah but I'm not talking about them

[drowsy marsh]

and I have a very hard time believing that the Pahlavi dynasty were expansionist

Specially Reza’s son

[bright spade]

They were nationalistic

[drowsy marsh]

But not expansionist

[bright spade]

If they had the ability they would do it

[drowsy marsh]

The Pahlavi Dynasty wanted to industrialize and rebuild

[bright spade]

Since they viewed (and still do) azarbaijan as a core part of Iran that was taken away by russia

[bright spade]

Yes that's why I'm saying if they could

it's unrealistic they rebuilt this fast and become a great power

But that's juts hoi4 logic

[drowsy marsh]

🤷‍♂️

[bright spade]

If they were a great power though they would probably go to war with the soviets

[drowsy marsh]

maybe but I still think that the SUMKA path was dumb

[bright spade]

ehh I think picking another fascist party would have made more sense but I'm alright with that they went with

I'm more upset over the democratic path

[drowsy marsh]

yeah that made me disappointed too

feels like 0% research about Iran was done but it’s whatever

I’m happy that a tree is coming at last

[quick sleet]

Maybe the nazis were send them to install the government in iran idk

[drowsy marsh]

SUMKA didn’t exist in ww2

[quick sleet]

J i know

But they were under nazi influence

And their leader was in the ss

[drowsy marsh]

Yes ik that the leader served in the SS in OTL

[quick sleet]

Maybe they will send him to iran to install the government

[drowsy marsh]

Islamist path would’ve been cooler

[quick sleet]

True

[drowsy marsh]

Religious fascism could’ve been introduced

as an sub ideology

[quick sleet]

Truee

There is something that they added that connect the religion

[cobalt jay]

Islamist would be more non aligned tho

[bright spade]

nah wouldn't say 0% they def did do quite a bit of research

[bright spade]

Yes and no

[drowsy marsh]

not really

[bright spade]

The islamists in this case would be fascist

Since they were pro nazi

[drowsy marsh]

^

I mean literally everyone except for a minority in the democrats were Pro-Germany

you can see it with irans situation

[bright spade]

Eh wouldn't go as far as to say they were pro germany

Sure they traded

But it was a similar situation to finland

Although Unlike finland Iran did declare neutrality

[drowsy marsh]

to an extent they were, industry treaties existed

German companies outnumbered other ones

[bright spade]

true but they weren't outright pro germany or pro war

[drowsy marsh]

of course but you can certainly point out that the people preferred Germany

[bright spade]

Yes

Over the soviet union and Britain

[dusk mist]

spain wasn't overtly pro-germany or involved in the war, but they were definitely pro-germany.

[bright spade]

I'm not talking about spain?

Spain had an ideological motivation and felt closer to Germany

[drowsy marsh]

pretty sure that Reza wanted to use German equipment in his army too

Mauser did pretty well in Iran

[bright spade]

The only real reason for the Iran Germany relationship was because of the soviets and british

[plush gazelle]

can anyone play with me?

[bright spade]

I would but my net sucks

[dusk mist]

ik but my point is that it doesn't have to be explicit

[plush gazelle]

:{

[bright spade]

Yeah but the thing is when people say x country was pro Germany they think they were allies

[dusk mist]

right

which let's be clear spain wasn't

[bright spade]

And also this pro germany situation was the whole excuse that the british used to invade iran alongside the soviets

[quick sleet]

I can

[dusk mist]

was there not a coup?

a pro-german coup?

[bright spade]

No

[drowsy marsh]

you’re prob thinking of the 50s

[bright spade]

I think you are confusing the mosadegh situation

[drowsy marsh]

when Zahedi toppled Mosadegh

[bright spade]

which is yeah in 50s

[bright spade]

very oversimplified but alright

[drowsy marsh]

Yeah it’s way more complicated

[dusk mist]

yeah probably

[drowsy marsh]

It’s a lot about CIA, the Shah etc

But it’s a long story

[bright spade]

I would talk about it but it's outside of the game's timeframe so yeah not gonna go into it

[dusk mist]

yeah looked it up, it was like iceland but yeah they used it as an excuse

[drowsy marsh]

Iran’s army could do little to defend anyway

that’s why I hope it’s hard to actually defend

[bright spade]

I hope so too

Would be a really fun challenge

But yeah tldr britian and soviets invaded and occcupied iran

[dusk mist]

sadly it seems that they have to make every minor powerful and easy to defend

so it's not "unplayable"

[bright spade]

And then forced the shah to abdicate in favor of his son

[dusk mist]

i think some nations should be a challenge

[dusk mist]

it's kinda crazy

how they just did whatever they wanted

soviet cavalry and british armour in iran

[bright spade]

yeah

It also caused a famine that killed 3-4 mililion of people

Which was a quarter of the population

So I do hope that's in the game as well if you lose the war

[dusk mist]

where do those numbers come from out of curiosity?

lol ai overview gives exact same numbers

[bright spade]

It's a book that I will be honest im not too sure on

but regarding this topic

It does seem too be accurate

[dusk mist]

just found same screenshot

definitely not very strong figures then

one single sources based on population figures from one source

but yeah big famine all the same

[bright spade]

we also had another famine in ww1 that caused alot of deaths

[bright spade]

yep

but still at the very least it was a million

since it wasn't a small famine

[dusk mist]

yeah sounds reasonable

[bright spade]

also a similar famine in ww1 caused 8 to 10 millions death

[dusk mist]

behaviour of the allies is pretty shocking there

[bright spade]

and that one has a way more solid source

[dusk mist]

what is the name of that one

[bright spade]

persian famine of 1917-1919

althoguh that famine also took place at the same time as an epidemic

[dusk mist]

"So far, few historians have researched the famine, making it an understudied subject of modern history." --> man it's such a shame

that people ignore these things

[bright spade]

so its hard to say which death was due to the famine or the epidemic

[dusk mist]

2 million roughly it seems

it appears that author you quoted is fond of high death tolls

[bright spade]

at the lowest aproximation for that yeah

But for the 1917 one it's not just him that claims that high number

But yeah it's still a debate on which one is more accurate

My guess would be somewhere in the middle

[dusk mist]

i didn't see any other sources claiming it tbh

it said it hasn't gained acceptance among academic historians

and the others seemed to have 2.5 million as upper bound

[bright spade]

hmm interesting

[dusk mist]

other historians don't seem to have a high opinion of Majd

[bright spade]

Oh yeah can't blame em for that

The guy is a propogandist

So that's why Im saying his statments shouldn't really be taken as facts

[bright spade]

Still even at the lowest 2 million would still be huge

[dusk mist]

yeah for sure

[bright spade]

For a country of only around 12 million people at that time

[dusk mist]

yeah, i guess another reason why 8 million would be ridiculous

[bright spade]

Yeah as I said the guy is just a propogandist

Who says anything to make the west look bad

There was def a famine with a large number of deaths

[dusk mist]

however at least he is drawing attention to the subject

[bright spade]

but 8 mil? very unlikely

[dusk mist]

the problem is how exaggeration and political goals like this can radicalise people

[bright spade]

Yeah factual history isn't really favored that much sadly

[dusk mist]

like the amount of people you see saying the british did a (censored word) on the indians with the famine in ww2

[dusk mist]

people will believe anything which confirms their own political beliefs

which can lead to some warped views of history

[bright spade]

yeah just a couple days ago had a guy here calling me a traitor to my country

for liking this dlc

since according to him this dlc is just "propoganda"

Like come on it's hoi4

You can make a bear the ruler of poland

[dusk mist]

lol

i saw a guy calling Pétain the saviour of france

during ww2

saying he shipped the jews off to germany to save more jews

etc etc

he killed resistants and instituted a cult of personality so the germans wouldn't take control and do worse

etc etc

[bright spade]

Not even gonna comment on that

Since it makes 0% sense

[dusk mist]

i know

it was impossible to argue with him

[bright spade]

It's really not worth it anyways

[dusk mist]

all it takes is a google search

[bright spade]

Like the guy im talking about was trying to bait a debate about the modern state of Iran

Which nice try but I'm not falling for that

[dusk mist]

yeah at least this guy wan't trying to tie it into modern politics

except for accusing people from occitanie of not really being french

[bright spade]

yeah I mean that's also straight up against the rules

[dusk mist]

oh yeah

forgot about that

ok i gtg now

been a pleasure talking to you

[bright spade]

Alright take care

Likewise

[fair sail]

Abrahamian sucks

[summer rivet]

huh, where are you from?

[dusk mist]

Don't know anything about him

But many other historians seemed to share his opinion there

[winter jay]

is this new update or what

[bright spade]

Iran

[quick sleet]

Im Israeli

[bright spade]

Nice

[quick sleet]

❤️

[fresh cedar]

Hey, why didn’t you guys just DM rather than have a long debate about famine and death in latest 😭

[bright spade]

Good question

Live stream time

[fresh cedar]

Was a good 12 replies with statistics and everything. I was like dang

[fading walrus]

I'm gonna play Iran first when the DLC drops

because they were the ones I was looking forward to the most

[sterile lichen]

How much do all DLC's in total cost?

[crisp rivet]

Over $200 US dollars

[sterile lichen]

That is about 1900 rubles?

[bright spade]

Islamic revolution path confirmed

[polar bronze]

Im gonna try east india company first

[crisp rivet]

I won’t know

[sterile lichen]

it is around 17700 rubles

[terse viper]

Islamic revolution path is secret path

[bright spade]

yes

[crisp rivet]

I in school

[bright spade]

one of the secret paths apparently

so there is more then 1

[crisp rivet]

How get secret path

[bright spade]

Haven't said yet but my guess is go democratic and elect kashani

[crisp rivet]

I see

Still doing EIC first

Wait, do AIs ever do secret paths?

[daring forge]

Looking forward to playing Iran tbh, looks fun

[rocky oasis]

Unless there are multiple hidden paths, then no. The hidden path is tied to monarchist Iran.

[daring forge]

a couple of them are set to never occur iirc

[pseudo wing]

iirc they can, but its low chance, like really low

[pseudo wing]

this as well

[quick sleet]

What

Really

[daring forge]

like even for ahistorical poland will never go for anastasia iirc

[bright spade]

Yes in the stream they said it

[crisp rivet]

Oh

[bright spade]

They said it in the stream

"one of the hidden paths"

And talked about the islamic revo a bit

[rocky oasis]

Ah

Ok

[quick sleet]

They will have secret tree?

[daring forge]

but for some other less hidden or secret paths there are ai strategies as far as I know

[bright spade]

No idea

[rocky oasis]

I know. I head that. I did not realize they said multiple secret paths.

[bright spade]

well "one of" implies there is multiple paths

[bright spade]

also the islamic revo path they talked about dosn't seem to have anything to do with this

[rocky oasis]

Yeah, I missed the “one of” comment.

[quick sleet]

Which ideology

[bright spade]

didn't show anything they said they want it to be secret

Just confirmed that it is a thing

[quick sleet]

I hope they will get focus like the polish slavic

[fading walrus]

hmm

maybe another secret Hitler

but this time he is the Shahanshah

I could be wrong

[bright spade]

No qajars

[rocky oasis]

Several hidden paths confirmed in chat

Also, HOI4 will not be coming to consoles any time soon.

[quick sleet]

Yiu are mkr

[thick edge]

Skill issue

[bright spade]

?

[buoyant remnant]

Secret Khomeini path

[quick sleet]

In YouTube

[drifting star]

What ?

[bright spade]

What?

[bright spade]

They didn't say it's khomeini

It's just an islamic revolution path

[drifting star]

Did we watch the same live 💀

Timestamp revolution ?

[bright spade]

Give me a min let me try to find it

They mentioned its a secret path and didn't give any information beside confirming it's real

[quick sleet]

Leave there was someone named mkr

[quick sleet]

Rohala

[bright spade]

No that wasn't me

[quick sleet]

He asked if islamic iran has a path

They said yes

[quick sleet]

But it's more sense rohala kumnai

He was like 30+ old at 1936

[bright spade]

No he wasn't that prevelent in this period

Yes but he wasn't that influential

[quick sleet]

Oh

[bright spade]

Kashani was more influential

[quick sleet]

I don't know that so much

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 be like: console suport? Nah linux suportM ? Yes

[quick sleet]

Oh

[bright spade]

And they already said that's an option to be elected as president in the democratic branch

[quick sleet]

So this is the way

But new focus?

Maybe

[bright spade]

Probably

[bright spade]

Maybe don't know

[quick sleet]

To distribute the revolution

[bright spade]

21 min 34 sec

[quick sleet]

If you go to past you would prefer the sha? Btw@bright spade

[bright spade]

100% no doubt about that

[quick sleet]

I know there was corruption but now ☠️

[drifting star]

So their are multiple hidden paths

So cool

[thick edge]

As Iran get Trotsky as a leader and get cores on the Soviet Union

100% historical

[summer rivet]

yo same

[bright spade]

Nice 🤝

[summer rivet]

shah for the win

sure there was corruption and large western influence but what else can a monarchy neighboring the soviets do?

[quick sleet]

AND THE ISLAMIC GOVERNMENT 💀

[summer rivet]

fr, they always make the wrong choices through every turn

[quick sleet]

true

[bright spade]

Yeah compare to what was before and what came after it's a no brainer

[summer rivet]

indeed, people mark us as people who think shahs era was heaven on earth to discridit us, however we dont need heaven to be satisfied, only something better then the islamic hell

[quick sleet]

amen you will get free

bibi will save you

[summer rivet]

there isnt much of a saving for me, with trumps sanctions overseas college is becoming but a vague dream

[quick sleet]

ourprime minister really hero for iran btw?

[summer rivet]

who is your prime minister?

[quick sleet]

binjamin natniao

[bright spade]

Yeah

It wasn't even slightly better it was better by a quite the large margin

[quick sleet]

you really like our leader btw

[summer rivet]

i havent heard of him much from pro shah friends and family member so i cant say for sure

though israel isnt clean of criticism either

[bright spade]

Just a heads up modern day politics (as in anything after 1945) is against the rules so probably better to not talk about it

[summer rivet]

thanks for reminding me

[quick sleet]

Every country at war

[summer rivet]

i recommand we go to dms first

[rocky oasis]

This DLC has substantially increased the amount of people with toothbrush mustaches in-game. Was it just weirdly popular in the Middle East, or did the Austrian Painter just overshadow everyone else who had one in the West?

Also, I don’t think it ever came up, but Arheo said on the forums that the state atheism focus for Iran is being changed to just secularism.

[bright spade]

Nope it was pretty popular beforehand as well

[rocky oasis]

So, it was a popular style in the region?

[bright spade]

Not sure about the whole region but at least in Iran yeah

[bright spade]

Interesting if true, I do think it being an option would be better and make sense (or atleast lacisim like france since over all reza khan was pretty anti religion)

[strong sequoia]

The new icons are good but not that great about the portraits
Some are good and some aren't that great

[drifting star]

Second guy is looks maxing

[strong sequoia]

The first guy is the starting Prime Minister and the second guy is the leader of the communist party

[drifting star]

Straight mogging

I can feel the aura across the screen

[thick edge]

I would listen to that communist guy

He looks rlly convincing

[drifting star]

This dlc will be so peak

Multiple secret paths hopefully a Silk Road which gives -100 relations with China

[fresh cedar]

They’re just mad there was consequences for sending death threats

Can’t wait to blow up the monuments

[stable tusk]

We need a mod that gives every country EXCEPT the Chinese countries the ability to core the Silk Road

[drifting star]

Based

[quick sleet]

Turkey must rework very bad country

[drifting star]

Based

[nova olive]

Is silk road still in the dlc or replaced with timurid empire?

[drifting star]

Yes

[woeful oasis]

I can't wait for the Albanian and Ireland DLC

[nova olive]

Yes? Is it still there?

[drifting star]

The timirud replaced the Silk Road

[nova olive]

And timurid has core on chinese territory same as silk road?

[drifting star]

No

[pseudo mulch]

Timur didn't get to China

I think he died on his way there tho

[broken pollen]

i'm waiting for the polynesia DLC 💯

[hollow coral]

Cant wait for the liberia dlc

[drifting star]

Liberia becomes USA

That will be a path

[drifting star]

They should add army limits as a modifier that could be added in peace conferences

If you cap Germany , you can ban them from making aircraft or tanks

As an example

[cursive sparrow]

How did I do? (I'm Czechoslovakia)

I think I kinda did a bad job here tbh

[cursive sparrow]

update: I fought the US and the USSR at the same time

lesson learned: never right the us in 1940

[halcyon tundra]

did paradox say if theyre adding any new mechanics in this dlc or is it just new focus trees and formables?

[digital pumice]

its a country pack, so only new focus trees and formables

[halcyon tundra]

i see

thank you

[digital pumice]

you're welcome

[tired acorn]

There was something about urban warfare but devs havent showed anything

[cursive sparrow]

probably not in this country pack, then

[tired acorn]

highly doubt it

[fluid grove]

how to contact mods?

My game aint working as is should

[hollow coral]

Just go to the paradox forums

Also can you elaborate?

[fluid grove]

I cant play ach in hoi4 and i have no mods no save files i have verifed the game i have reisntald it does not work still even change copy of the game

[hollow coral]

Sorry im not familiar with mods what is ach?

[fluid grove]

achievements

sorry for being uclear there

[hollow coral]

So you cant get achievements?

Can you elaborate bit more sorry

[hollow coral]

Did you mess with anything in the files?

[fluid grove]

I have reinstalled the game and verfied right now im in paradox and trying to get help

[hollow coral]

Thats odd

Yeh i cant rlly help you so hopefully you can get some help from paradox🙏

[pure schooner]

Manually clear cache

[pure schooner]

If u need moderation ping the role

But for this u ping tech support

U dont need a pdx representative for this

[fluid grove]

It worked

finaly

[vocal shadow]

will they ever bring back customisable air wings 🥲

[granite wraith]

os

is thje dlc out

is the dlc out

[granite wraith]

I

is

the dlc

[burnt sail]

No

[obtuse wren]

4th March

[drifting star]

Can’t wait

Wonder if any YouTubers got a preview version

[obtuse wren]

Many of YouTubers

[drifting star]

Who ?

[obtuse wren]

Unfortunately, I hardly watch the English-language segment of hoi4, but I know 4-5 YouTubers from Russia who got early access a week before the release.

[drifting star]

Can you link me ?

[obtuse wren]

Sorry, I didn't understand what you were talking about

[drifting star]

Can you drop a link to the Russian youtube channel that is playing the new dlc

[verbal wave]

you should play kx next

[summer rivet]

and elefants

a whole new unit type

[digital pumice]

he was talking about mechanics, also im pretty sure elephants are only available to india

[drifting star]

Wonder if Seljuks will be formable

[cursive sparrow]

😭 omg I know why

This is the wrong channel smh

Anyways devs should rework Czechoslovakia

[trim quartz]

Is the shah plushie the same price in all currencies?

[hollow coral]

what?

[trim quartz]

Conversion

Never mind

[dense veldt]

March 4th can't come soon enough 💀

[drifting star]

True dat

[rugged anchor]

Hey guys, did anyonr know detail informations about the upcoming changes to urban warfare

[hollow coral]

I dont even think thats fully confirmed

[lilac crag]

Doesn't the achievment just passing by complete instantly if you play as uk or france?

[dense veldt]

what's going to be the dlc release price again? I just loaded up 40 bucks and i need some left behind for tuesday.

[hollow coral]

It might have something to do with india

[hollow coral]

Well currently its in an expansion pass which means it includes both the dlc before it and the current one

[dense veldt]

mhm

[hollow coral]

For me its $40 aud

[dense veldt]

36 USD rn

36.99 actually

should be roughly 15 bucks

worse case scenario I wait until next month

leaves me 25 bucks left for other stuff

[summer rivet]

it comes with the expantion pass

so if you have gotten damerong you're good to go

[daring forge]

Same as ToA

[dense veldt]

gotcha

[storm cargo]

I just pay 1 month at the time. Might be a bit more expensive in the long length . But sometimes its 2-3 months where I don't play

[safe galleon]

Do you guys know when will the new update be released

[drifting star]

Will there be patch notes released tomorrow? Curious of their were any other changes besides this dlc added

[plucky pike]

Idk but what I do know is that we should Nuke France

[solid gyro]

If you mean the country pack then that comes out in two days from now

[drifting star]

I’m guessing you don’t like France

[jolly quest]

Its the gotterdammerug going to be in the ultimate bundle?

Or no?

[thick edge]

prob so

[fossil torrent]

Have they released the model for the Persian immortal yet?

[rocky oasis]

Yes

[trim quartz]

Tomorrow

[tidal trout]

HELL NAAAAH

[lofty creek]

Tomorrow.

[trim quartz]

What time exactly does GOE release

I see

[tired acorn]

6 pm for me

[lofty creek]

will this be in the base game or dlc exclusive?

[gray dragon]

Is New dlc tomorrow?

[coral drift]

Please make Arabia a tiered formable already

[fresh cedar]

So bummed it comes out on a Tuesday. The one day I’m required to go into the office 😭

[gray dragon]

I’m gonna have so much fun playing it on Tuesday while you’re working

[fresh cedar]

Nice

I mean I will get to later in the day…

[gray dragon]

So much fun

[thick edge]

I have school then too

[fresh cedar]

Normally would take off for HOI4 DLC but genuinely have a lot of work to get done tomorrow so can’t

[thick edge]

Would be a shame if I’m sick

[fresh cedar]

Maybe just take Friday off

[coral drift]

Meanwhile i'm going to update my mod right away.
Already have several suggestions about the placement of Malacca City.

[drifting star]

Patch notes when

Also notice the greater Iran color

It’s dark grey

Meaning possibly you could become the riech ?

[daring forge]

nah way too farfetched

prob just similar colours

[strong sequoia]

There is an Islamic democratic path under Sayyed Abol-Ghasem Kashani although he looks younger

He was a supporter of Mossadegh, anti-capitalist and nationalist

[bright spade]

Not really a nationalist

Islamists would be a more accurate term

[gray dragon]

Will Kurdistan have a unique focus tree or anything

[bright spade]

Iraq does have a kurdistan path yes

[gray dragon]

Do you play as it or just release it as Iraq?

[strong sequoia]

Islamist is a political term that doesn't really reflect his beliefs for the freedom and sovereignty of Iran and Islamist politics is usually linked to Pan Islamism

[tired acorn]

will there be patch notes today?

[bright spade]

Pretty sure when you do that path you switch over and play as kurdistan. not 100% sure though

[bright spade]

Islamism (at least in iran) as always been anti nationalism

Nationalism is putting the concenpt of Iran and Iranian first

While Islamists would be putting muslims as first

[burnt sand]

Isn't that patriotism instead?

[bright spade]

That also applies to patriotism yes

I'm just giving a simplified explanation of it In Iran

[burnt sand]

Alright

[crisp rivet]

[bright spade]

Not talking about nationalism as a whole because of course different places had different interpretations and versions of that

[strong sequoia]

Well that's a joke
Iran still practices discrimination against Kurds and Arabs, you can speak and teach Arabic in Qom but never in Arabistan/Ahwaz

Views of Arabs and Kurdish culture in Arabistan and Kurdistan is illegal and a Persian/Farsi identity is still promoted. It is the same as under the Shah but now women are forced to wear a Hijab

And Iran currently is looking for Iran's interests, controlling Iraq economically, controlling and influencing a large portion of the Middle East

Iran is basically the most Nationalist iteration of itself just painted with a coat of religion

[bright spade]

First of all this is modern day politics

[strong sequoia]

Yes which I assumed you were speaking off

[bright spade]

Second of all every nation put it's own interest (be it ideologically or what ever) first

[bright spade]

I wasn't

[gray dragon]

Sounds cool

[bright spade]

I was simply saying calling kashani a nationalist isn't right

[strong sequoia]

Because Iranian Islamism in the early 20th century portrayed itself as Nationalist and Democratic

Fighting for elections, constitutions and the sovereignty of Iran

[bright spade]

Not really true though

[strong sequoia]

Kashani Himself issued Fatwas to kill the military dictator Hajj Razmara

[bright spade]

Kashani himself was anti democracy

And it was more so Islamist then nationalistic

Both in the time period of hoi4 and later on

[bright spade]

Also there's alot wrong with what you said here but since it's related to modern politics I'm not gonna get into it

[strong sequoia]

He was speaker of parliament, fought with the constitutional revolution and issued Fatwas to kill the military dictator Haj Ali Razmara and

[bright spade]

Just because he was in the parliament doesn't mean he was democratic

Also he turned against mosaddeg later on

So clearly his whole "democratic" thing was just a facade

[upbeat cliff]

WHAT is the last version

1.15.4?

[bright spade]

yes

[upbeat cliff]

And the checksum?

[bright spade]

3889

Nice flag and name btw

[upbeat cliff]

thanks

[bright spade]

Javid shah

[upbeat cliff]

yes

[bright spade]

Irani?

[upbeat cliff]

Bale

[bright spade]

are dige az vakhti ke trailer omad to server irani ha ziad shodan.

[upbeat cliff]

na rastesh

[upbeat cliff]

man khodam

[upbeat cliff]

bekhater dlc jadid nayoomadam

[bright spade]

hm? pas chi shod ke join dadi? man khodam hoi4 ro az kay bazi mikardam valy fekr nemikardam enqadr ziad irani bashe. trailer ke omad fahmidam.

[upbeat cliff]

my khodam az version 1.12 bazi mikardam

[bright spade]

Eitherway it's better to talk in english

[upbeat cliff]

Ok

[bright spade]

Since it's mainly an english speeking server

[fresh cedar]

The last video for Iran seems cool. Think they may have added content between them and Greece since that’s when they mentioned the hidden tree. Plus Hagia Sofia exists

[upbeat cliff]

yes i agree

[bright spade]

But yeah for me I started playing right before Battle for the Bosporus dlc

[upbeat cliff]

Ohh

[bright spade]

Maybe I think it's like a 50% chance

[fresh cedar]

Probably just some Persian War secret

Wonder if you need to take the Hagia Sofia from Byzantium as the Persian Empire

[bright spade]

+90% attack bonus against Greece

[fresh cedar]

IMO Greece should get buffs against them

Just to make it more of a challenge and feel like Persia is really accomplishing something

[bright spade]

Give greece massive buffs but delete all their divisions beside 3 elite infantry

[fresh cedar]

Nah, just like a +20% atk and def on core during war with Persia

Wonder if the Macedonian empire had any rework

[bright spade]

Yeah jokes aside something like that would be great

I also hope there is a way to peace out uk if you conquer their middle eastern puppets/lands

[fresh cedar]

I just know an Iran that owns the middleast will steamroll Greece

[fresh cedar]

Right

The forever war with the Allies is annoying

And even if allies disband, commonwealth of nations generally takes over

[bright spade]

Like how kaiserreich does it if you play as persia and invade india you get a peace treaty after a while (if you are winning)

[fresh cedar]

Yeah that would be nice

[bright spade]

We really do need more stuff like that in the base game Imo

[fresh cedar]

Especially in anti colonial wars

Should work similar to Italys war in Ethiopia. Maybe not as drastic with a civil war, but give some debuffs if they continue to fight

Like stability/War support hits

Really hyped for this DLC though

[long ruin]

Why is everyone so mad about elephants

Japan used them during Burma

[bright spade]

People are mad about them????

[bright spade]

Yeah like it's annoying to have to navel invade the uk

If you only want kuwait or jordan

[fresh cedar]

And if it goes long enough, potentially all of the Americas

[fresh cedar]

I know tons of people who are excited for them too. I think people just like to hate anything

People also had similar misgivings about Camels originally.

[bright spade]

Don't even mention the usa I'm getting ptsd just thinking about it

[fresh cedar]

But like Brazil/Argentina too on historical now 😔

[gray dragon]

I think I remember them mentioning something like this

But im not sure if it will be a feature for everyone or just Iran…

[thick edge]

Achievement idea
Francophobe: nuke every mainland French province once in 1 game as any country

[bright spade]

If that's true that would be amazing

[digital pumice]

it looks like they did add some urban warfare stuff

"Added new tactics and modifiers for city combat"

[dense veldt]

Siam!

[stable tusk]

Oh the patch notes are out already?

Wait its tiny

[floral anvil]

Really nothing

[digital pumice]

content is content

[tired acorn]

Wonder what could this be exactly

[broken horizon]

Prob to slow down enemy troops from pushing big citys and taking em over with little efford like stalingrad and other big citys

[tired acorn]

It would make a lot of sense for cities to be bigger

not all but still

[wise oxide]

urban

[drifting star]

Dawg they just threw in a major new feature as an after thought

We are gunna cook with this one

[fresh cedar]

Wonder how Syria will react with Turkish demands now

Or what it’ll do once Vichy exists

[drifting star]

Yea wonder if they added new events for Turkey especially with Kurdish stuff

Or did Turkey become broken 💀

The raj owns part of Aden now

[fresh cedar]

Kinda worried Turkey will be broken but you never know

[drifting star]

Maybe with the checksum it will be fixed

Does the new released nations have new leaders ?

[fresh cedar]

They typically do a good job at updating other countries content. Would be surprised if Turkey wasn’t updated to reflect changes

[drifting star]

If the sokoto caliphate has unique leaders Syria should as well

[fresh cedar]

I don’t think we know

Agreed

Syria probably will. Idk about the others though

Jordan probably, Kuwait EH

[drifting star]

New Syria formable would be crazy

Like the malmuks or something

[fresh cedar]

Probably just Arabia

Though would love new ones

[drifting star]

Wonder what secret schizo paths await us

[fresh cedar]

Not sure, seems to point to an Islamic revolution

And maybe Greco Persian war

[drifting star]

They said multiple secret paths

Also not to mention India and Afghanistan

Durrani empire and silk roads

[fresh cedar]

If I had to guess, some sort of Persian empire triumphant over Greece. And the other being a massive Islamic revolution.

[fresh cedar]

Silk Road debacle probably got it removed completely

[drifting star]

It should be a secret event if India takes China

[fresh cedar]

Oh gosh 😭

How to start WW3

[drifting star]

Full cores on China

And Tibet

[fresh cedar]

You madman

[drifting star]

Just noticed in the video when it talks about the Zoroastrians it shows a completely different focus

[fresh cedar]

I think they’re trying to leave some things vague or bring less attention to it

They seemed to really want players to explore this one

[digital pumice]

they will probably become vichy puppets

[fresh cedar]

Or free

[digital pumice]

what would be interesting is how will free france reclaim them

[fresh cedar]

Maybe they’ll just flip to puppets of free France or on ahistorical choose

[digital pumice]

i can't imagine how many times that would break if they do it like that

and the problems it could create

[drifting star]

They become independent in 1941

[fresh cedar]

Kinda why it really makes me wonder what they’ll do

Like clearly they exist to facilitate being taken over by the new countries. But how will they actually work on historical

[dull tundra]

RIP Silk Road empire
2024-2024

🪦

[thick edge]

I may be stupid, but wasn’t it this year…

[oak swallow]

they added the achievements

[thick edge]

Holy shit we are already 3 months in the year

Damn

[oak swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/vril-schizo-agarthan-invisible-energy-gif-23656473

[dull tundra]

Sorry I keep forgetting 😅

[tired acorn]

I wonder if Debar and burgenland were fixed

[lofty creek]

2025* 💀

[rocky oasis]

I think they said something about it in the replies of one of the dev diaries.

[vast mulch]

when goe

[quick sleet]

More 21 hours

[waxen olive]

Did Silk Road empire get scrapped?

[thick edge]

Yes

Sadly

[waxen olive]

Does the game encourage you ti form the Timurids if you form the Mughals?

[dense moon]

BTW what time does it come out tomorrow?

[lethal pelican]

18:00 pm

[safe trail]

21 hours

on steam they say 21 hours

[thick edge]

Time zones go brr

[dense moon]

What time zone?

[lethal pelican]

EET

[trim quartz]

1:00AM it releases

[vale rover]

18:00 CET I think

[strong sequoia]

Kuwait but no Egypt
Wake up pharaoh guys

At least are the pyramids added as a landmark?

[dense moon]

Okay so 1 pm my time

[strong sequoia]

That's 8:00 PM for me

[royal marten]

Missed opprtunity to call fascist Irans German war goal focus ”Destroy the false aryans”

[lofty creek]

Fr

[strong sequoia]

That's good, will add in my mod when I fix it

[royal marten]

👍

[stable tusk]

They confirmed the Hagia Sophia, Taj Mahal, and Sa'dabad Complex not sure about the pyramids

[strong sequoia]

So none of Iraq's landmarks like the Mustansir school of Baghdad or the holy sites at Karbala or Najaf or the ancient ruins of Babylon and Sumeria?

Only a museum in Turkey and a modern palace in Tehran?

[stable tusk]

Well the Hagia Sophia was extremely important as a Mosque and Church, plus it is the most famous building in Türkiye

[hollow olive]

Anybody got any idea what the secret path for Iran will be about?

Focus description says something about Achaemenid empire but I’m not sure

[thick edge]

is there a middle eastern alliance path

i forgor

like india, iraq, afghanistan, and iran

[drifting star]

What is a checksum ?

[hollow coral]

I would only consider iraq middle eastern

Also all four of them have barely anything in common so it wouldnt make sense

Iran can do a saadabad pact alliance though i think

[thick edge]

i noticed india isnt middle eastern

i need to sleep

[strong sequoia]

Yes

[rocky oasis]

Islamic Revolution

Also, there is more than one secret path.

[hollow olive]

I didn’t even know that

[rocky oasis]

It was confirmed in the Iran livestream that there would be an Islamic Revolution path and in the chat of said livestream it was confirmed there would be “several hidden paths.”

[stable mica]

When the DLC will come tomorrow? CET?

[hollow olive]

Nice

[novel forum]

Is the game going to be on discount at the same moment?

[outer heron]

If I had to guess, the secrets either turan or the Macedonian empire

[empty elk]

There’s a new dlc?

[onyx hull]

Graveyard of Empires

[empty elk]

Oh

I thought it was just mostly the raj

And Afghanistan

[drifting star]

Iran will be peak

[lost torrent]

I’m trying to find out as well

[true moth]

Iran and Afghanistan aren’t Middle East?

Oh I didn’t realize that was from like 3 hours ago

Thought this channel was more active

Oops

[pseudo wing]

I cannot confirm the exact time it will be available, but most releases of DLC have been around 5-7pm stockholm time

so can keep that as a reference

[drifting star]

Will formable a that use Iraq be updated to include those states ie ottomans

*the newly added states

[lofty chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[harsh hull]

 Siam now joins the Co-Prosperity sphere on historical
 Added a port in Phuket
 Added a supply hub in Hat Yai
 Siam starts with army of Siam spirit```

Siam number 1

[drifting star]

The checksum will go crazy

[hollow coral]

Ig just Afghanistan isnt middle eastern

[drifting star]

I guess Iran isn’t Middle East

[hollow coral]

Nah afghanistan isnt iran is

[drifting star]

Cap what

[stiff pine]

suprised they didnt add an egyptian tree

its barely a middle eastern country but it would of kind of made sense for this update and now its unlikely we'll get content for them for a long time now

[hollow coral]

no it kinda wouldnt

the focus is around afghanistan and the countries around it

the levant was a bit of a stretch

and egypt is an even bigger stretch

also egypt is considered middle east

[stable tusk]

Afghanistan isn't middle eastern
Iran isn't middle eastern
India definitely isn't middle eastern
Only middle eastern country in the DLC is Iraq

[solid gyro]

Paradox plzzzzz fix the achievements of Warsaw uprising and shaken, not stirred 🙏🏻

[tired acorn]

DLC releases at 5 pm Stockholm time

[bright spade]

Since when is iran not middle eastern???

[solid gyro]

always, Iran or (Persia) falls into a whole other category such as west asia. Due to the Iranian people being extremely different from those in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan etc

[bright spade]

Mate I'm iranian

Iran's culture very different I agree

But middle east is a geography term

And iran IS in the middle east

Also don't use the word persia that's not what we call ourselves it's an exonym

[dense coral]

Dls releales ?

[hollow coral]

Tomorrow

[dense coral]

👍

Please tell me how many additions there should be in total, that's exactly the number? I just don't think I'm done. 36 I have

[wise oxide]

when dlc dropping?

what time of clock

[quick sleet]

In Israel jews from iran call themselves persian origin not Iranian

[tired acorn]

5 pm stockhom time

18:00 for me

[bright spade]

Yeah that's mainly to dissociate from the current regime

Also many iranians ARE persians

I'm just saying the current name isn't persia

Every persian is iranian but not every iranian is persian you get what I mean?

[quick sleet]

I know

[solid gyro]

€₽$£¥₩

[coral drift]

Bruh?

[dense veldt]

T-7 Hours until DLC time. It's 3:01 AM my time so the earliest is 10-11 am CST

[quaint cobalt]

2:02 AM here

My choir teacher got sick, so that means choir class is cancelled today

Which means more times to try out the new DLC

[dense veldt]

I got book club tonight, but with my sleep schedule i might oversleep it. Hopefully should stay awake and caffeinated enough to at least get the DLC.

[quaint cobalt]

LET’S SEE HOW BADLY WE CAN RUIN THE WORLD AS GERMANY

This is my plan for the world after the DLC

[dense veldt]

My first run with the DLC will be historical india. You going to do another germany run before that?

[quaint cobalt]

I always play as Germany, nothing else.

[dense veldt]

spoken like a true germany main. You do mostly imperial runs?

[quaint cobalt]

Take over the world as Moustache Man, overthrow him after that, and form the EU

[dense veldt]

amusing.

[quaint cobalt]

Let’s see how the Arabs, Vietnamese, North and West Africans, and Angolans would want to be ruled by a bunch of French and Iberians in exile.

Even though I puppet their exile government while owning their land.

[dense veldt]

yuh, 6 hours from now

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hurry-up-spongebob-hurry-spongebob-clock-gif-11315776216069222009

[hollow rampart]

the update is taking so longggggggg

my fingers itch

[wise oxide]

4hours?

[fresh cedar]

Don’t they normally come out 12-1 pm EST?

[trim quartz]

Yes

They do

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[hollow rampart]

RAAÀAAAAAAAAAAA

UPDATE NOW

[harsh hull]

I cast 4th Level spell "Delay DLC"

Have fun playing next week

[drifting star]

Boo

[humble shell]

Dlc when

[hollow rampart]

get out of here!

[harsh hull]

That's it, I now cast "Rock in Shoe"

[bright spade]

Paradox should release the dlc sooner for Iranians

[thick edge]

Die

Please

[harsh hull]

Yeah sure, let me just--
Surprise cast of "Cute Dog Deterrent"

You now won't meet any cute dogs for the next month

[crisp rivet]

I will still have to wait til 3 pm EST to play it

[bright spade]

What's the first country and path everyone's gonna play?

[crisp rivet]

UK, imperial federation

[bright spade]

I meant regarding the new dlc...

[crisp rivet]

I know

[harsh hull]

Kuwait world conquest

[crisp rivet]

But after the uk one, British Raj, EIC

[bright spade]

Based

[bright spade]

New dlc releases-> plays an unrelated country

Fair enough

[fresh cedar]

Makes no difference to me, I won’t be able to play for another 8-9 hours 😔

[fresh cedar]

Nah Kuwait is new 😉

[crisp rivet]

My intellect is too confusing, even to me

[bright spade]

No I'm talking about the person who said they want to do an imperial federation path for uk

[crisp rivet]

[bright spade]

Nah I don't blame you I play Iran religiously in every map game regardless of updates or dlc

[crisp rivet]

My achievements

[fresh cedar]

Oh kinda makes sense to see if new countries work well with it or if imperial fed is harder

[crisp rivet]

…totally

(Totally not to get the new achievement)

[fresh cedar]

Oh is there?

[crisp rivet]

The on to own a state in every continent

Which theoretically, UK and France should automatically get

Cause Oceania has all those islands

[bright spade]

1984 reference?

[thick edge]

Same

[crisp rivet]

Yeah

[thick edge]

My friends immediately want to do MP with the mod

[crisp rivet]

You have friends that play

Lucky

[thick edge]

Noob…

[hollow rampart]

is the update out

[bright spade]

Not yet

[hollow rampart]

[crisp rivet]

I ain’t a noob, I have 107 achievements

Most in unhistorical

[hollow rampart]

AAAAAAAHHHHHH

😤 😠

[thick edge]

And I’m sane

And have 40 achievements

[crisp rivet]

Good for you

I know I’m crazy

[bright spade]

Imagine having achievem*nts

[fresh cedar]

Truee

[hollow rampart]

how can u not have any

[thick edge]

How

[hollow rampart]

fake

[bright spade]

The darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

Nah it's because I don't play with ironman mode

[thick edge]

I feel like that’s harder than 100% achievements

[bright spade]

Also mods

[hollow rampart]

true, having no achievement is the hardest achievement

[fresh cedar]

I would touch grass but the ground is frozen and covered with snow

[crisp rivet]

Look, I touch grass

[thick edge]

6,234? As in 34? As in t-34? As in a series of tanks in war thunder? Is that a war thunder reference?

[fresh cedar]

62, as in t-62, world of tanks reference actually

[thick edge]

World of tanks is so weird

I’m used to war thunder

And not a health bar

[fresh cedar]

I used to love WOT but haven’t played for years.

[thick edge]

Same

[fresh cedar]

War Thunder aerial combat is more appealing to me. Ground forces is a little too slow and meta

[crisp rivet]

I would say something, but i play world of warships, so….

[fresh cedar]

90% WT players use the same 5 vehicles in ground forces. And use the same strategies on the same maps. In theory the game should have insane diversity but is extremely limited in practice

[thick edge]

I can agree

It’s a pain to grind all that

I have been stuck at Russian ground 6.7 for around 5 months

[fresh cedar]

Aerial combat has meta too but it’s easier to counter Meta vehicles and plays

[fresh cedar]

I’m around the same with American

[thick edge]

I just completely halted once I got to it

I think I just need to grind the 2SI then I can do the IS-3

[fresh cedar]

It’s also just a broken BR

[thick edge]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

End up just fighting prems every match that one shot you with a recoiled rifle or a rocket

[thick edge]

Downteired to tigers, normal tier is 90% non pens
Up tier results in sabots with 400mm pen

Literally everything is a heavy tank

[fresh cedar]

Yeah it’s gross

I try to just use TD’s or the bulldog at that tier bc high pen

Gonna have to stay off here once the DLC releases to avoid mega spoilers

[plucky crag]

When does GoE come out?

[frail trench]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-food-bowl-persian-annoyed-cucciolinodipanna-gif-13484529227984596079

where

[proper sail]

if the same as the last update - #hearts-of-iron-news message - it will be in 3h at 5pm GMT

[floral anvil]

2 hours

[proper sail]

hmm?

[fresh cedar]

Generally 12-1 PM EST

So if right now is 9 am est, should be 3-4 hours

[floral anvil]

Wdym

Just two hours

[gleaming carbon]

It's usually like 11am EST is it not?

[proper sail]

its because it isnt a float once its like 2h 59 min itll round down to 2h

[rich jolt]

а

[gleaming carbon]

That's weird and Steam should fix that. Still should say 3 hours until at least 2h 31m left

[proper sail]

if it doesnt make steam money it will take years to be patched lol

its been like that for years tho

[dull tundra]

2 hours can’t wait!

[rugged gazelle]

The dlc it's at 18?

[plucky crag]

Thanks

[dull tundra]

1 and a half hours

[rugged gazelle]

17?

[proper sail]

2 1/2 its at 5pm my time

[fresh cedar]

That just isn’t the usual time is all I’m saying. I’ve played the game since it came out and it sorta seems to fluctuate. So this is an earlier one if anything

[sour sonnet]

8am PST according to some random dude on Reddit so yeah

In 2 hours

4pm GMT

[zenith apex]

when graveyard of empires drop will it be available to me if i have the monthly subscription?

[sour sonnet]

Yah

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be

[zenith apex]

nice

[sour sonnet]

Monthly subscription is ass though

Not worth it

Just buy individual DLCs

[zenith apex]

maybe they would do something like its only purchaseable for the first month

[sour sonnet]

I find that unlikely

[zenith apex]

ive already cancelled the subscription, have vacation in 2 days and already buying dlcs for ck3 so im kinda dry for hoi4

[sour sonnet]

Ah fair enough

HOI4 is the only Paradox game I play and I got lucky with my DLC prices so it didn’t cost me much

[dull tundra]

Do you want to play the India Iraq Iran and Afghanistan?

[zenith apex]

tbh i thought ck3 was so bad when i first tried it cz it was so different from hoi4

then i played ck3 for like a week straight when i learned it and thought it was better than hoi4

[sour sonnet]

Fair

[zenith apex]

not at all, but my friend plays iran

[sour sonnet]

I have friends who play Victoria III

[sour sonnet]

He plays default focus tree Iran?

How brave

[zenith apex]

road to 56

[dull tundra]

Ahh makes sense

[zenith apex]

ive tried to make byzantine 20 times now and wanted him to help me by justifying on turkey so turkey would have to fight 2 fronts

[fresh cedar]

Best way to do Byzantine is just port trap Turks then attack when they’re low

[waxen olive]

Problem is expanding after. You get no war goals or anything like that so it’s an immediate war against the UK

[zenith apex]

doesnt it get core/claim war goals on all the balkans

[waxen olive]

No, once you form it that’s it

You get no cores until you click the decision

[zenith apex]

yeah

but doesnt one of the byzantine focuses give wargoals?

besides on turkey

but anyways i still feel its better than third bulgarian empire. everytime ive tried to do that one ive never been able to win a war against anyone cz bulgaria is so weak

[amber bison]

u just puppet everyone around u

fate of the balkans is prolly the strongest path

but yea bulgaria isnt that fun or just doesnt feel as a good as other trees

[proper sail]

Ngl I like that they are adding more detail to the British and French empire just noticed they are adding Jordan

[hollow rampart]

how much time left

[bright spade]

around 1 hour

[zenith apex]

is there any european/asian country u recommend playing?

[amber bison]

i like finland just cause they are a little OP due to the update they got in AaT

Hungary fascist/non-aligned is ok too

[lapis osprey]

Is the dlc bout to drop?

[amber bison]

any tree with a decent expansion path or just good combat is usually good

if u want a real country with some hurdles and challenges but a good reward

fascist estonia , where u fight the other balitcs, core them. and then fight the scandinavian countries . coring them and forming the nordic empire

[zenith apex]

i have actually tried that twice in singleplayer

russia wants to annex me both times

before i even get lithuania

[amber bison]

You just gotta be quick and need a good strat

you need to rush expansion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSSDqR7_qnA

this guide is decent but its RNG

[viscid vessel]

Achieves are already in steam

[amber bison]

two 50/50 events in the beginning

[viscid vessel]

from the graveyards

[zenith apex]

imma try it

[rocky oasis]

Unsurprisingly, the first thing YouTubers are playing is the EIC path.

[bright spade]

the dlc will be out in 20 min

[amber bison]

Imma try Persian empire first

[tired acorn]

ill be playing Afghanistan because i love playing as nations that start with almost nothing or in a very bad state

[fading pagoda]

I'll be heading down an east india company route for the raj; been hyped for it ever since it's reveal

[bright spade]

For me it's Iran

Gonna try all their paths first

[quick sleet]

For me 1 hour

[rocky oasis]

Which one will you be doing first?

[bright spade]

The legacy of greatness path

[pure nexus]

I will probably check portraits in files first.

[bright spade]

First third persian empire

Then the first Iranian empire

[full ermine]

i will let Azerbaijani rebels have their independence against Iran

[bright spade]

pfp checks out

[pure nexus]

Around one hour means that we have to wait 9mins?

[bright spade]

yes

[full ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-and-staring-eating-cereal-gif-4810625501598588991

[tough pier]

Someone ping me and show me the urban changes

[bright spade]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[bright spade]

uh so I was wrong one of the moderators said there's still an hour to go

[full ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-writing-discord-talking-radlcies-gif-25361801

[bright spade]

actually a great gif

[full ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1021766924473991189/1344707112218923058/IMG_4107.gif

[dull tundra]

Soon………

[bright spade]

One of the mods said in an hour

[dull tundra]

Wait really?

[bright spade]

I really hope that was a mistake

Yeah go in general and scroll up

[dull tundra]

Look right sadly..

[thick edge]

One more hour

[tired acorn]

noooo

[thick edge]

The mods are right

[wise oxide]

rahh

its time

[bright spade]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[wise oxide]

dont lie

[dull tundra]

NOOOOOOO

[dire trail]

Updates coming in a hour?

[bright spade]

It's jover...

Millions must wait

[dull tundra]

YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME

[tender bolt]

its so over

[wise oxide]

proof?