latest-updates

[waxen axle]

Yes because im quite active on the hoi4 subreddit

[lethal pelican]

Called it march 4th

[drifting star]

Gg yall see u guys when the dev diaries roll out

[pallid hollow]

Nice to see it! I'm not all too active commenting myself, but I always see the fun stuff going on over there

[fresh cedar]

Genuinely thought all the dev activity meant a dev diary. Though a release date drop is nice too

[pseudo wing]

I lurk on the reddit but I'm always like 'am I allowed to comment' lmao

[thick edge]

That dude looks
-# short

[pseudo wing]

HAHA

[thick edge]

Damn bro even his
-# name
Is short

Wild

[pallid hollow]

Chak is still laughing in vc about that

[thick edge]

W

[fresh cedar]

The short thing?

[thick edge]

Yah

[pallid hollow]

... Yeah, they make fun of my height sometimes

[fresh cedar]

Turns out he’s 5’4

[drifting star]

That’s massive

[fresh cedar]

Hobbits need respect too tbh

[stable tusk]

From what info I have of him, that makes sense

[thick edge]

5 inches 4 centimeters?

[drifting star]

Dawg nah

[pseudo wing]

It's ok, I get him to pick on me too, I just like to pick on my friends

[runic depot]

(2026)

[pseudo wing]

202(234234)6

[fresh cedar]

In freedom units it means 5 feet, 4 inches

[thick edge]

I think they mean 5”4

[tired acorn]

Bro just say 164, not 5,4

[drifting star]

Any chance at a baby sadaam hussain ?

[waxen axle]

My notifications from reddit is blowing up

[thick edge]

We use democratic measurements

[fresh cedar]

It would be 5’4” 😂

[thick edge]

Same thing

[pseudo mulch]

March 4? That is way earlier than I expected

[fresh cedar]

Ew no, I’m not a Borg drone.

[tired acorn]

Literally only americans use feet to measure

[drifting star]

Based way to start off Ramadan

[thick edge]

Ok?

So?

[fresh cedar]

Yup, and will continue to 😍

[tired acorn]

Meters is superior

[drifting star]

We use freedom units cuz we are better than u

[safe trail]

metric system is bettter

[fresh cedar]

For Minecraft maybe

[tired acorn]

Exactly

[waxen axle]

10 min and i got 1.1K total views

[drifting star]

Bald eagle second amendment and Chinese food beat that

[stable tusk]

Freedom units created by a king vs the Metric system created in the middle of a revolution to depose a tyrannical king

[thick edge]

But I will agree F (temperature) makes no sense

[waxen axle]

Looks like many people are excited 🤩

[drifting star]

The US must liberate the world of the oppressive metric system

That should be an achievement

“What is a kilometer “

[fresh cedar]

USA needs their own RK’s where you setup United States of (Enter region)

[fading walrus]

Looks Like im gonna have to play Hoi4 again in March

[stable tusk]

There was a proposed amendment to rename the United States of America into the United States of Earth funnily enough

Also I saw Chak typing

Where'd he go

[rocky oasis]

You know what else is massive?

[fresh cedar]

He’s Canadian, guarantee he wouldn’t like that mechanic in game 😭

[fading walrus]

Futurerama

[drifting star]

Yes 😏

[fading walrus]

Can we have Nixon as president

[pseudo wing]

I'm making assets for things

And making emotes

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-nixon-agnew-stamp-of-approval-gif-23998011

[fresh cedar]

Monument DLC when

[stable tusk]

Hmm
Alright...

[pseudo wing]

that's what IM asking

[stable tusk]

Also if this DLC doesn't add the Taj Mahal that's just a missed opportunity

[fading walrus]

And without a Mughal restoration path too

[waxen axle]

Im sure it will be added

[fading walrus]

They built the Taj Mahal after all

[safe trail]

he Raj is the jewel of the British Empire, rich and strategically vital. However, a growing independence movement threatens to disrupt the war effort and dissolve the empire. A large focus tree focused on the struggle of Indian Independence offers many alternate historical paths, including the revival of the East India Company as a corporate nation, as well as the possible freedom of the Princely States and the formation of Pakistan and Bangladesh.

[drifting star]

Resurrection of Khilafat Movement

Which is not that crazy to come up with Islamic restoration was a huge thing in certain parts of India

[vast mulch]

it would be cool if they brought up the azad hind fauj

[waxen axle]

Lmao people on official forum are not quite excited

[thick edge]

How do

How so

[vast mulch]

ikr :(

[safe trail]

because they want japan

[vast mulch]

they're just focused on europe and the americas

[safe trail]

rework

Japan rework

[waxen axle]

But on reddit people are happy

[thick edge]

Why am ❌

[drifting star]

Prolly would come with a Japan update

[waxen axle]

They probably dont understand after that will come japan rework

[vast mulch]

you should post it here https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/puzzle-for-the-graveyard-of-empires-dlc.1728309/

[drifting star]

Savetra Devi as leader of India

[vast mulch]

nahh not really

there are alot more

gandhi, sardar patel, subhash chandra bose

alot

[floral anvil]

God less than a month

And no dev diary

[waxen axle]

I did it

[vast mulch]

epic

[jovial furnace]

Meow

[waxen axle]

so 4 dev diaries

1 dev diary per week

[thick edge]

Car

[waxen axle]

unless there are something more to show

multiple dev diaries per week

[soft swallow]

Or if a country has a LOT of content

[waxen axle]

Yeah

dev diary per different path

[thick edge]

This may be a sign…

[dull tundra]

so dev dairies start on the 4th or it releases on the 4th?

[thick edge]

Release I think

[waxen axle]

Im sure its the release date

[dull tundra]

So dds start Wednesday then?

[waxen axle]

Yeah i guess

[dull tundra]

🧐

[waxen axle]

maybe they will do multiple dev diaries?

[safe trail]

the steam site is still the old one

[thick edge]

They always do

[safe trail]

no only for götterdämerung

before that it was 1 dev dairy peer week

[waxen axle]

Before götterdämerung they did 1 dev diary per week

Anyone knows PDX_Moderator_2 from steam hoi4 hub?

[pseudo wing]

wat

wdym

[pseudo wing]

where

[waxen axle]

From steam forum of hoi4

[pseudo wing]

yes but which post

[pseudo wing]

i think thats a general moderating account, for pdx games

why do you ask?

[waxen axle]

I have a ban on Hoi4 steam hub

Perma ban

Since 3 years ago

[stable tusk]

It was two a week

[dull tundra]

How did that happen?

[stable tusk]

Nvm I'm stupid

[pseudo wing]

give me your account name and i'll review the ban (no promises)

[waxen axle]

the reason it shows that spam/racism

but i dont remember being racist

[drifting star]

Spam and racism being put together is crazy

[waxen axle]

Yeah

Last time i remember that someone starting to insult me personally

[drifting star]

How does paradox come up with the damage values for units ?

[waxen axle]

The name is same like here on discord

[wise oxide]

march 4🤩 so early

[drifting star]

I hope it’s more polished and fun to play than toa I’d say it has to be due to its proximity to major players in ww2

[dull tundra]

Yeah hope for some dds soon

[safe trail]

steam page updatet

and feddback irl made a video

tommorow we get a dev diary

[jovial furnace]

LOL, was I banned from the challenges section?

[waxen axle]

where?

[jovial furnace]

Chak is really using censor method just because of his own mistake eh...

[safe trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBIaAG47SvA

[waxen axle]

Thx

[dull tundra]

They re leases it

GUYS

GUYS

[stable tusk]

Wait what the hell
How'd he already make this video

[safe trail]

@stable tusk Content creator

[gilded ocean]

They just released the trailer

[jovial furnace]

Speaking of bans, why was I banned from accessing the challenge channels?

[drifting star]

The true mongols

[stable tusk]

Yeah I know who Feedback is I'm just asking how he already made and editied a video about stuff that we figured out half an hour ago

[waxen axle]

i knew it that would be multiple dev diaries

[safe trail]

@stable tusk really? he has Early acces

[wet meadow]

https://fixvx.com/HOI_Game/status/1888997680107434258

[safe trail]

@stable tusk conent creators get stuff a week ahed

[stable tusk]

Ok you don't gotta ping me multiple times to remind me how stupid I am for not thinking that lol

[rocky oasis]

LFG!

[safe trail]

@stable tusk sorry

[waxen axle]

OMG

[stable tusk]

🔥

[long ruin]

I started full time work so i barely had time for gotterdammerung

[rocky oasis]

East India path

[waxen axle]

How did you find it?

[obtuse wren]

"Third Opium War"💀

[safe trail]

afanistan and iraß have a dev diary toggeter not s good sign

iraß

[stable tusk]

Guess we're starting off with the Raj

[safe trail]

iraq

[odd umbra]

ELEPHANTS!!!

THEYRE BRINGING ELEPHANTS!!!

[tired acorn]

GUYS, republic of Syria

[stable tusk]

Steam pages sometimes do this like with GDR we found out about the Danubian Federation path for Austria early

[waxen axle]

Okay

[waxen axle]

Damn

[obtuse wren]

NO WAY

[rocky oasis]

That art of Reza Shah Pahlavi is fire.

[wanton charm]

shouldve there be turkish focus tree? i mean they beated UK Greece and france

[safe trail]

there is a turkisch focus tree

[wanton charm]

revamp

[drifting star]

Syria is a country omg

Alhumduallah

[obtuse wren]

Hmm, but what will happen to Vichy?

[waxen axle]

Did you find something?

[drifting star]

I forgive paradox

[drifting star]

?

[stable tusk]

@fading walrus There is a confirmed Mughal path for India btw

[drifting star]

Yes let’s go

[safe trail]

@stable tusk ?

[waxen axle]

What does that means? that middle east will be reworked?

[stable tusk]

Steam page

[safe trail]

@stable tusk they updatet the text great

[drifting star]

It means that there is a new country

[safe trail]

they deleted pakistan and bangladesch

[stable tusk]

The map will prob be shifted around a bit but this isn't a ME rework it's just that there is a new country

[rocky oasis]

Name change

[tired acorn]

new small state it seems

[stable tusk]

They're still there on the Dev Diary page

[safe trail]

@stable tusk okay why two diffrent Text?

[fading walrus]

Oh yeah

Here we go

[stable tusk]

Idk

[drifting star]

Nooo

[fading walrus]

Time for some Ackbar the great action

[drifting star]

He is super dead 💀

[fading walrus]

IK

[drifting star]

No one in his family even exists

They were wiped out who will replace him ?

[fading walrus]

He was the Mughal dynasty

[fading walrus]

I thought the same with the Romanovs until NSB

[lethal pelican]

New unit

[stable tusk]

Can't believe they're adding ghosts

[drifting star]

Yeah but they had lots of family outside of Russia it was a huge dynasty the mughals had that Sith Lord type beat

[waxen axle]

Elephants

[rocky oasis]

I think a dev diary is missing lol.

[drifting star]

So that’s why they are endangered

[fading walrus]

their is still someone left

though her claim is vauge

today that is

[rocky oasis]

No Iran Opposition dev diary lol

[vast mulch]

they released the vid

[stable tusk]

Also is it just me or is the calendar a bit more ugly than with the GDR one

[safe trail]

why no iran opposition dev diary

[fading walrus]

I'm looking forward to Iran the most

Country with a very rich history

Hopefully no Schizo Zoroastrian path

beacause Zoroastriaism is dead in Iran by 1936 and doens't belong in hoi4's timeframe

[tired acorn]

Wait, i feel like Jordan is also its own country

[floral anvil]

Map changes guys

[fading walrus]

Play EU4 if you want that

Eranshahr AKA Zoroastrian Iran

[split tartan]

this shi gonna cost another 25 euros i feel it

i just started saving up

[fading walrus]

Not too me

[floral anvil]

Trans Jordan

[fading walrus]

I already preordered the whole deal back in October

[jovial furnace]

yeah... sad

[floral anvil]

Jordan changed gender

Steam page

[fading walrus]

40$ is how much I spent for 3 dlcs

[waxen axle]

Its nice that british and french colonies are now countries instead being just british territory

[split tartan]

out of context that sounds awful 😬

[waxen axle]

25$ for me

[pseudo wing]

its just showing the price of the expansion pass since it hasn't released yet, that's all

(if you are looking on steam)

[stable tusk]

Hmm, I wonder what this could be?

[fading walrus]

Syria

[stable tusk]

What no I was talking about the focus above it

[fading walrus]

Iran

Its Iran

[safe trail]

PERSIA YES

[stable tusk]

Yeah I know but path wise

[waxen axle]

Hey Chack-

[fading walrus]

Cambyses invaded Egypt

And then died under mysterious circumstances

And Darius the great took over

[pseudo wing]

gimme a moment, still checking things on forum side

is busy rn rn

[waxen axle]

Alright just ping me when you did it

[fading walrus]

I remember when EU4 had their middle east DLC back in November 2023

King of Kings

[drifting star]

Dawg they cooking g with this dlc wonder if Egypt is any similar

[fading walrus]

main nations it added where Byzantium, Persia, and the Mamluk Sultanate

[fading walrus]

Yemen, Rassids, and Najd were also upadated

in EU4

[fresh cedar]

Ah yes excellent teaser lol

[pseudo wing]

I see why, but I am going to dm you regarding it since its not something I want to put here

[fading walrus]

Yemen has an intresting history before the EU4 timeframe

[obtuse wren]

Wait, In Egypt, the letters "ma". Mandat of Egypt confirmed!?

[fresh cedar]

Maurya reference ig

[polar jasper]

Just read the dev diary. Seems interesting, but I already feel like this is going to be Trials of Allegiance 2: Ultra busted focus trees on countries that half the player base ignores.

Comment section on the dev diary is people complaining. I get their points, but new content is good too, can't just only have reworks

[fresh cedar]

Personally I loved Trial of Allegiances so I hope so 🙂

[fading walrus]

no most Indian dynasties used War Elephants

Mauryans are just the first

[drifting star]

That’s Palestine mandate oh boy I can here the arguments

[polar jasper]

Trial of Allegiences was alright, but I didn't care for the countries reworked. Raj at least gets something as they were quite vital to the war effort

Poor Japan is going to get nuked though

[fading walrus]

King of Kings for EU4 meanwhile

Persia, Byzantium, and Egypt 💪

[fresh cedar]

Thought Brazil and Argentina were super fun. I noticed most of the people who disliked it either don’t understand how supply works or wanted European content

[polar jasper]

I can't see Japan doing well against a buffed India

[lethal pelican]

syria is also a puppet of france

[harsh hull]

Someone scan every screenshot for map changes (starting nations, states, provinces, etc) and list them for me

[obtuse wren]

Wow, the devs have added so many Middle Eastern puppets... But, yeah, it's not Egypt, my bad😅

[fading walrus]

Ottomans were buffed before Egypt in EU4 though

[harsh hull]

I'm not able to for a while

[fading walrus]

Egypt had nothing before the Ottomans in Dominion

[bright spade]

Whoever was responsible for the trailer 10/10 to them as an Iranian I could easily notice a lot of the references to history(also that last shot looked amazing)

[polar jasper]

I don't play EU4, so that went over my head

[fading walrus]

ah sorry

good game that one

love reviving Byzantium

[polar jasper]

Wouldnt the ottomans be more important than egypt

[fading walrus]

yes

[drifting star]

If it gets a small bonus tree it will be civil wars every 10 months

[polar jasper]

Sure there is egypt gaining independence

[fading walrus]

but Egypt was still a major player in 1444

[polar jasper]

Makes getting independence harder, but yeah

[fading walrus]

Ottomans usually kill them

and estabilish the Eylat of Egypt

[obtuse wren]

Every 35 days💀

[fresh cedar]

Irrelevant takes be like:

[polar jasper]

This just makes Japan, a major, have a rougher time and doomed to die as an AI

To be fair, Japan's ai never wins

[fading walrus]

Funny because Ottoman and Spain AI if not beaten up early will conquer alot in EU4

[drifting star]

Mandate of Kuwait is also added

[polar jasper]

We all would like our pre NSB trees to get reworked, but new content is epic

[fading walrus]

Portugal too

[fresh cedar]

I would like them to be reworked but I prefer new content

[fading walrus]

France,

and the PLC and Russia are all major players in EU4

[polar jasper]

Iran might be interesting as they get invaded by the British and Soviets. Maybe they can fix it to where they don't become a communist puppet state like they do now

[fading walrus]

and Britian

[drifting star]

So far we have Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Kuwait added to the map

[fading walrus]

the Ming tend to die easily

which they did historically

[polar jasper]

All these tags are going to make the game slower

I haven't seen the video yet

[fading walrus]

I play Eu4 and that has alot more tags

[polar jasper]

Are they actually having more tags at game start

[fading walrus]

yeah

[fresh cedar]

It’s kinda annoying at this point whenever new content is released how people will be like “BUT WHEN WILL BLAH BLAH BE REWORKED” like have any of you ever played a paradox game before? 😭

[drifting star]

India becomes mongols

[fading walrus]

its like 300+

in EU4

[drifting star]

Which is crazy given that they were the ones who defeated them

[fading walrus]

I mean the Timurids were an offshoot of the mongols

and the Mughals were an offshoot of the Timurids

[drifting star]

Ok fair enough

[floral anvil]

Imagine being Irish and playing HoI4

[fading walrus]

and Mughal is a corrupted translation of Mongol BTW

though the Timurids were Uzbek

but the Uzbeks were part of the Mongol Empire

along with the Tartars and many other tribes

[safe trail]

maybe we get aso Israel(britisch mandate plestine) and egypt

[fading walrus]

in the politcal climate now

no

[fresh cedar]

Watch Afghanistan just get a Khanate path

[safe trail]

afganistan modernatision under the King

@fading walrus not focus tree but as theretory if not then egypt to 100%

[drifting star]

Afghanistan might get a rashudian caliphate path

[safe trail]

im liitle wooried iraß and afganistan are toggeter in one dev diary

hope they have enough content

[waxen axle]

So? No chance to be unbanned right?

[drifting star]

Dawg what did u do ?

[drifting star]

Yeah I hope it’s not barebones as long as it’s not like Paraguay we are good

[tired acorn]

What if, this update also makes Gibraltar smaller

[safe trail]

@drifting star yeah i hope

[pseudo wing]

not within my control to do so, no

[safe trail]

but evrething turned out to be good tommorow dev diary hype

[open crown]

I was in therapy what did I miss

Can you form the Iranian Islamic Republic? 🙏

[safe trail]

@open crown Iran is a potential great power, hemmed in by the imperial pressure of the Soviet Union and the British Empire. A significant new Focus Tree allows the player to resist the imperial incursions that historically weakened Iran, as well as offering potential for a new and modern Persian Empire or an Islamic Revolution in the heart of Asia.

[waxen axle]

Someone started to use personal insults using my ethnicity on me and i got angry and i did the same back to him and then i got banned for racism

[waxen axle]

Do you keep in contact with the mod? and be honest rate from 1 to 10 how bad it was and whatever you saw there im very sorry

[jovial furnace]

Hey, were you the one who won the last challenge?

[open crown]

Yes!

Didn't expect to honestly

[jovial furnace]

You were at war weren't you in the pic? Cuz of the dangerous naval landing bit in your picture.

[jovial furnace]

Hm?

[thick edge]

Bro piss off

Leave him alone

[jovial furnace]

Can't I ask him about it?

[thick edge]

Ur dragging it too long now

[open crown]

Was he?

[thick edge]

He has kept mentioning it over the past 4 days

[open crown]

oh

I wasn't at war then, the naval invasion was probably because of Japan navally invading Japan itself as I was conquering it

But the lack of war icon should be enough to say that I wasn't at war

[jovial furnace]

Finally, a proper explanation, even the mods werent able to ask you about this and settle the conflict, thanks. Many try to hide the war icon tho, and as the 2nd place was caught with a 'naval combat' I thought you were at war aswell.

[open crown]

Oh that's fine

Cheaters 👎

[jovial furnace]

Yeah, but the thought that 1 cheater was eventually selected among the winners still pisses me off... The fact that they are unable to properly review a picture (which takes less than half a minute to properly do so), and thus banning me from the challenges channels just because I was the only one complaining about it really shows the incompetency of community management here...

Atleast I am able to sleep half decent tonight, lol

[pseudo wing]

You were not removed from the challenge channels for complaining, you were removed from them because despite already giving you the explanation, and being told to stop being passive aggressive about it, you continued.

If you cannot follow directives to stop, and they were directives, not suggestions nor requests, then you do not get to participate in the challenges.

Still here, you continue the passsive aggressive comments and insults of incompetency for what is at worst a minor mistake in a for fun challenge series. I have not actioned you as of yet but if I see one more comment along these lines because you already made up your mind despite whatever explanation I have given you, you will be.

[jovial furnace]

Only the first message was aimed as 'passive aggression', others were not

I was asking if you will pay more attention next time to these, I was concerned if I should even care to do the challenge if these bypasses occour...

[undone kelp]

So that scratches Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan off the list with a Raj rework.

I expect we’ll probably see a rework for British and French Mideast possessions at some point for Egypt, Syria, the Saudis, Yemen, and Oman.

[wise oxide]

trailer thatshows nothing

[drifting star]

Will urban combat update come with new patch ?

[pseudo mulch]

This has no right going so spectacularly hard

[pseudo wing]

oh thats right

one second

i was gonna make him a sticker for the server

[pseudo mulch]

Also, @pseudo wing I checked the DD roadmap and there isn't a DD dedicated to the Iranian opposition, but there is a video planned about it

Is this a mistake or intentional?

[pseudo wing]

mm i think the video is there and maybe the DD with it? am not sure I haven't received it yet myself

[pseudo mulch]

👌

[ocean turtle]

The Shah wants YOU for the Imperial Iranian army!

Perfect recruitment poster

[drifting star]

That crown goes unbelievably hard

[pseudo mulch]

I hope the Shah gets the title of Shahanshah whenever he restores the Empire

[ocean turtle]

I can see so many different achievos relating to the words Sha and SHA POCKET SAND!

[chilly drum]

Im sorry to burst everyone's bubble but I remember that devs promised "more deadly urban warfare" in GoA.

The thing that was cut from the patch with the previous DLC.

Is this still a thing?

[thick edge]

Nothing a nuke can’t fix

[chilly drum]

Sure, but I kinda live pretty close to Sweeden

Well, to the southern tip

[pseudo wing]

jon

[polar jasper]

I forgot stickers existed

[pseudo wing]

look at all the new emotes

[polar jasper]

[pseudo wing]

[polar jasper]

Yeah, but does it beat holiday generic

[pseudo wing]

i love generic holiday, it was the dumbest yet best emote ive made for here lol

[undone kelp]

Here’s the question: Parthian or Sassanid restoration paths?

[drifting star]

Which one has more cores?

[karmic oar]

please can we take a second to think about this on the graveryard of empire steam page ???

palestinian nation, transjordanian and syrian nations

[drifting star]

And Kuwait

[safe trail]

maybe some of them get ninor focus trees

minor

[drifting star]

Why are there so many femboys who play HOI4

Like I clicked on one profile and it’s the most dastardly things I have ever seen on Reddit

[plucky crag]

but we hate the shah

[stable quest]

I can finally naval invade into the Persian gulf as Japan.

[drifting star]

Why it’s a cool path

You don’t like kings who spend all the money on luxury

[plucky crag]

nah I mean the shah himself as a politician, not the game

the game seems to be cool

[plucky crag]

yeah, exactly

[drifting star]

Selfish, kings need stuff too

[stable quest]

Carol II of Romania in the corner

[plucky crag]

carol's events make me lose pp

[drifting star]

You think any politicians play this game

[digital pumice]

🗣️

[waxen axle]

Do they have reworked regions?

[crisp rivet]

The Taj Mahal bet part frfr

[karmic oar]

yay it's new countries

[undone kelp]

Syria is now a puppet and not under direct French control

So…maybe laying the groundwork for future Syria focus tree?

[karmic oar]

same as transjordania and palestine mandate

[digital pumice]

ah yes

"deforestation"

all this game needed

[undone kelp]

Makes me wish there was a criminal path for the Guangxi clique or some such

[wise oxide]

sorry i love yall bc dev diary

[undone kelp]

The Chinese Warlords should all have their own unique tree for unifying China, even if only a mini-tree

[ocean turtle]

Last picture on the steam page is a gurhkah. Nepal bonus tree confirmed

[safe trail]

mandat of palestine i wonder if the country gets independet israel or palestine or we get more regions

[crisp rivet]

If so, also Bhutan

[digital pumice]

i dont think thats happening considering

yk

[drifting star]

We get aggressive civil war where all units have max entrenchment and one side gets a lot of and I mean a lot of lend lease

[stable quest]

Does this mean no more doing 3 70 day focuses that each give a level 1 railway?

[safe trail]

but we have plaestin new the mandate of plastine and israel is in the game a tag

[crisp rivet]

Maybe we don’t ask to avoid conflict

[digital pumice]

yeah but adding focus trees to them would be controversal

[pseudo wing]

270 day focus to get one tile of railway confirmed

[undone kelp]

70 day focus to get 100 pp

[pseudo wing]

||/s for legal reasons||

[drifting star]

Adding a Mughal path to India will get it banned

[digital pumice]

why

mughals were pretty based

[drifting star]

Some parts of India have very negative opinions about that part of their history

[thick edge]

Would we be able to rotate our camera? Like city skylines?

[undone kelp]

India will probably have a pro-Japan path too

[crisp rivet]

That…no

[digital pumice]

same applies to nazi germany

[thick edge]

I would kind of like it ngl

[drifting star]

And with whose in charge they will make a big deal calling it xyz

[crisp rivet]

That would be pain if you accidentally do it, and not know how to fix it

[digital pumice]

or any post soviet country

they just gotta accept it

[drifting star]

Yeah but it’s a more of a anti Christian and Muslim thing

[thick edge]

E or Q would be most logical ngl

[crisp rivet]

Not Q

Already used

[thick edge]

There are keyholes?

Keybinds *

[digital pumice]

well its kinda their fault for not being acceptive of others

[thick edge]

I only use my mouse

[crisp rivet]

Ja

[crisp rivet]

Same

[thick edge]

And the escape button

[undone kelp]

I foresee India getting formables like the Maratha Confederacy

…does this imply a VOC path too at some point?

[thick edge]

That’s a moment

[drifting star]

What does VOC stand for ?

[heavy bolt]

dei company

[drifting star]

Oh

[digital pumice]

elephant only wc is gonna go hard

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-shh-secret-prank-gif-17131726

[digital pumice]

tbh i foresee it to be like landcruisers

where it can only be used as a support company

[stable quest]

Elephants are basically just bigger horses.

[undone kelp]

There’s like one niche use for Elephants: mobility bonuses for artillery in rough terrain.

That was their historical use, because they can pull around heavy artillery the same way horses can pull field guns.

[digital pumice]

and landcruisers are basically just bigger tanks 😆

[drifting star]

Where did u get the shirt ?

[digital pumice]

oh wow you actually noticed

[drifting star]

Crazy how the pyramids and al Aqsa are not monuments

[digital pumice]

in the future probably

[drifting star]

Yeah it’s funny

[digital pumice]

but i get they're not that important in the scope of ww2

unlike say the reichstag

or the kremlin

[stable quest]

Mongol India?

[undone kelp]

That would imply a Mughal path

[digital pumice]

but mongol=!mughal?

[heavy bolt]

mughals descended from mongols

[digital pumice]

ohh i see

[heavy bolt]

akbar descended from tamerlane who descended from mongols

[digital pumice]

mughals are basically muslim mongols

[trim quartz]

It releases March 4th? Geez that’s early, it’s already feb 11th so it’ll go by quickly

[ocean turtle]

tbf its just a country pack, no new mechanics just new content for said countries. Its like trials of allegiance. lots of new content for said countries but if you dont play them you dont really see much

[pseudo mulch]

Where are y'all getting these screenshots from?

[trim quartz]

Pretty much just trial of allegiance

[safe trail]

@pseudo mulch steam site

[pseudo mulch]

Thx

[safe trail]

@pseudo mulch https://store.steampowered.com/app/3152790/Country_Pack__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Graveyard_of_Empires/

Steam

Country Pack - Hearts of Iron IV: Graveyard of Empires

Navigate the difficult channel between nationalist dreams and imperial oppression in Graveyard of Empires, a new country pack for Paradox Interactive’s popular grand strategy wargame. Resist the demands of foreign great powers and claim your own place on the world stage, engaging in diplomacy and warfare to lead a great national rebirth in the v...

Price

$36.99

Release Date

Mar 4, 2025

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[pseudo mulch]

The Mughal and East India Company paths are gonna be crazy

[ocean turtle]

actually that reminded me when ToA came out so many people were bashing on it, I felt like I was the only person enjoying it playing Facsist argentina, so much fun.

[pseudo mulch]

The two sides of the HoI4 fanbase ig

People were demanding content for South America for years, but when said content arrives, people bash it for no good reason

Also, with the French Chile path, I hope they've added a secret Bourbon path for India

[ocean turtle]

Its gonna happen again with Graveyard. people are going to be like "Why so much useless content? nobody plays afghanastan or iran!" yet for years people were begging for more middle eastern content lol

[pseudo mulch]

Yep it's already happening, just check the comments in some Reddit posts

[ocean turtle]

I actually recall randomly I did a few runs as Afghanastan in HoI2, I remember trying so hard to beat Iran, probably stupidest run I ever done ever

[dense grove]

apart from me

[fading walrus]

Mughals

An offshoot of the Timurid empire who was in turn an offshoot of the Mongol empire

[foggy silo]

huh?

[digital pumice]

what does it have to do with muslims?

[foggy silo]

bro what

Casual racism

[digital pumice]

yeah lol

persia wasnt islamic

and most arab nations were secular

[foggy silo]

ok what does that have to do with muslims?

[digital pumice]

the raj isnt majority muslim

what are you on about

[rancid dawn]

Afganistan is

[fading walrus]

Why are you being a islamphobe

[foggy silo]

look at his pfp dude

checks out

[digital pumice]

thats actually crazy

[fading walrus]

Don’t know who that is

Im from the USA

Oh him

[pseudo wing]

yeah lets not mention it, I'll deal with the guy

[foggy silo]

he is a hero to him apparentally

[fading walrus]

Cringe

Murdering other people isn’t heroic

[foggy silo]

thank you

[digital pumice]

ok guys we can stop hes gone

[foggy silo]

no it is ok bro

[digital pumice]

thanks chak

[foggy silo]

he is edgy

and cool

XD

[fading walrus]

During war time I guess, but that wasn’t during war

[foggy silo]

it is not cool either way

he is just a kid

in a phase

we all go through the edgy phase

[fading walrus]

Fair probably watched those culture war grifters like I did

Before I snapped out of it

Im gonna stop here

[drifting star]

What did I miss something about Muslims ?

[digital pumice]

no need to mention it, just some racist guy

[drifting star]

We need a formalized sabaahed pact

[fading walrus]

Agreed

Was kinda hoping that Turkey would get some QoL updates

[cosmic falcon]

I'm excited for GOE.

[pseudo mulch]

I'd love to see India with a bunch of monarchist paths with little branches like the Kongo has

[fading walrus]

Im not excited but Im fine with it

I’m playing a-lot of AC7 rn

[manic cairn]

cant wait for the elephants from the teaser mann!!

[harsh hull]

If Graveyard of Empires had a bingo board for content

The achievement for dropping a nuke on London in the Gandhi path would probably be the free space

I'll be amazed if it isn't an path and achievement

[pseudo mulch]

I did one back in the day and posted it on Reddit

[waxen axle]

I wonder if mandate of palestine will be witg GoE this means it will have a very small unique focuses?

[pseudo mulch]

I think they might give content to Palestine, Jordan, Syria and Egypt whenever Saudia Arabia, Yemen and Oman get focus trees

[waxen axle]

If you look very closely you will see something written like 'Ma"

Mandate of palestine is confirmed

[stable quest]

ZIBBITY SAN MA UPDATE CONFIRMED?!?!

[daring forge]

probably just generic

but ig if Saudi gets content later they might get some

[waxen axle]

Umm Sultanate of Aussa and iceland for example?

[daring forge]

yeah I don't see that happening here

they didn't do anything hidden last dlc either, and there's just way too many new countries to give them all something - feels more like possible setup for later content

so they can give them the attention they deserve rather than just something halfhearted quick

and I can't see anything on the store page either - uruguay and paraguay are mentioned in the ToA one

[waxen axle]

I dont understand if middle east was the theme why they didnt bother to give saudi, yemen and oman some focus tree?

[daring forge]

because the theme was south asia and iran

and iraq got added on

arabia is another area

[waxen axle]

Nope its afghanistan main theme

[daring forge]

and afghanistan is in south asia

[stable tusk]

The Middle East wasn't the theme, the theme is South Asia (depending on your definition Iran doesn't belong here but in mine it does) and Iraq

[polar jasper]

That is my prediction

[stable tusk]

So close to Bingo

[fading walrus]

Pan Islamist was confirmed I think as Iran

[polar jasper]

I have 2 possible bingos

Then we got bingo

[fading walrus]

I think Im unsure

[stable tusk]

Also some of these are kinda given

[burnt crater]

Man i really want to play as israel

[fading walrus]

It said to recreate a caliphate as Iran

[daring forge]

they still have time to add stuff for bingo

[fading walrus]

If I remember correctly

[waxen axle]

It was mandate of palestine before so no israel

[daring forge]

does not seem like it in the most recent description

[fading walrus]

And before that it was the Ottoman empire

[burnt crater]

Ik but maybe smt like road to 56 where you can trigger the war of independence early on

[fading walrus]

They changed it

[daring forge]

then you'll probably have to play rt56 still because I don't see them adding that anytime soon

[daring forge]

if they changed it it probably means the previous version wasn't accurate so I'd trust the new one

[burnt crater]

Well tbh it might be too controversial, would be nice to screw germany and italy as israel lol

[daring forge]

Yeah I just think it's outside scope for this expansion and probably quite low prio for whenever they work on arabia too

[waxen axle]

wdym?

[daring forge]

it doesn't really fit with the general south asia + iraq theme and even when they visit arabia (which I can see happening since they added these puppets) I can see a lot more interesting/important countries to maybe prioritise so the mandate might be too low prio

not saying it will never happen, just don't see it being prioritised over a lot other things

[burnt crater]

They might allow you to release israel since the tag and flag are aready in the game - probably with the default FT

[daring forge]

yeah I think all the countries in that region will be generic for now - but they could maybe get more FTs later on?

at least how I've understood it

[waxen axle]

LIke iceland and aussa

Maybe they will get some focus small ones

[daring forge]

Don't think like that, more that like Syria gets a full focus tree in the arabia pack or whatever

or at least for this expansion

maybe the mandate of palestine or whatever gets a hidden tree in that pack, who knows

but for this expansion I think we're getting what we see in the steam description, same case as with ToA

if they had minor trees they'd advertise them is my thought

since it's just a country pack

[drifting star]

If paradox cooks with the adding focuses are some content for all of these new nations I will buy the next expansion pass

[dusk mist]

Controversial when this is a game about ww2, where you can play Germany?

[dense grove]

central asia

iran is west asia

[daring forge]

Idk
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asia

[dense grove]

the wiki definition will conflate afghanistan with multiple regions

afghanistan is not south asian however since it lies on the iranian plateu and is populated by a mixture of iranian and turkic peoples

as a country it is most similar to tajikistan and then iran

[timber marsh]

@everyone

[dull tundra]

huh?

[drifting star]

Is Burma goin to become released

[harsh hull]

It's not a starting nation on the map it looks like, no

But Burma was a part of the Raj government structure until '37 or '38, so it'll probably be released by focus/decision now that India is getting a proper tree

[indigo kite]

@everyone

[indigo kite]

@timber marsh

[thick edge]

@everyone

[hoary siren]

@everyone

[pseudo wing]

now now, guys, no need to spam it

its disabled anyway aha

[hoary siren]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-the-office-steve-gif-25464260

[pseudo wing]

I wanted to meme do it but I actually have the permission for it

so uh

https://tenor.com/view/discord-best-owner-bad-owner-ping-many-pings-gif-10740496253173180268

[hoary siren]

Lmao

[thick edge]

u should give me everyone perms

would be funny

[fresh cedar]

Archaemenid path is pretty cool

Also like the addition of more monuments

😳

[drifting star]

Egypt is confirmed look the focus talking about pyramids

[indigo kite]

they're touching tips

[thick edge]

ban this guy

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-meme-mods-gif-14385308006689816010

[polar jasper]

Dude is going to be feeling negative

[indigo kite]

nah I ain't gonna be feeling after this one

[harsh hull]

Like, if they're adding Jordan and the Mandate of Palestine, surely Egypt is also becoming a starting tag, right?

Round out all of the United Kingdom's colonies "protectorates" around the Levant and down the Nile

[stable tusk]

Idk how they'll deal with the Freegypt achievement if that's the case but maybe they'll figure something out

[drifting star]

They should just override it together in victory is already base game

[polar jasper]

Electrons are negative. Having an extra electron in every atom of your body will make you negatively charged.

Dead or alive

[gentle ice]

https://youtu.be/FW103FLlgM0?si=nPFX5YX8bHIdRcSe

🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥 ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 💯 ERAN ERAN ERAN

https://tenor.com/view/iron-sheik-spit-wwe-gif-11891829

[harsh hull]

Actually, now that I'm comparing the size and placement of the text of the "British Raj" on the map, I think Burma IS actually becoming a starting tag

Which, you know

Cool as hell

[vast mulch]

where did you get that image

[stable quest]

From the screenshot on the steam store page

[vast mulch]

ohh okay thanks

[indigo kite]

yeah I know

we just had 2 different jokes

one about being charged

one about being dead

[stable tusk]

Hopefully tomorrow's dev diary is good

I'm hyped for India

[hollow coral]

Only historical but hope we can get gandhi as a leader lol

[neat shell]

I come from Iran..this game is going to be huge in here as POP was..every gamer is talking about it and promoting the game in here..in this days of persia people seriously need such things thanks alot

[glossy finch]

What time does dev diary release

[drifting star]

Go to sleep

[waxen axle]

Idk maybe 5 PM or 4 PM today

[vast mulch]

GMT?

[waxen axle]

Will be historical focus for raj

Im not sure

4 or 5 PM is usually in my region

[stable quest]

What is your region?

[waxen axle]

EET

[modest bobcat]

DAYUM the new DLC is gona be so good

and its 3 weeks tell it drops

[solid gyro]

I highlighted a nation that is coloured a light-ish green. Already cross referenced it to any nations on the map. Doesn't match anyone of them within that region. Burma (likely) confirmed

[modest bobcat]

les go

[hollow coral]

burma finally wont be two states

hopefully maybe even burma as a playable nation

[modest bobcat]

lets hope it does

[echo halo]

god i love more colonial states

even better we are getting the levant ones too

just posted this to reddit we got syria, palestine and transjordan

super excited for what they got planned

ah wait you guys alreayd found it

still excited

[jovial merlin]

why does every patch feels like it messes up historical focuses? When I have historical focuses on, I expect UK to not give somaliland to ethopia and I expect romania to agree with second vienna award... It messes up the whole game when they dont

[floral anvil]

Finally I’m represented in the game

With this tiny micropenis

[hard arch]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-absolute-cinema-gif-11357734032629135578

[rapid warren]

bahrain

[silent prism]

I have a small question here

In GoE, are we getting only Iraq, Persia, Raj and Afganistan?

Maybe we are getting some Israeli or Egyptian content? Something what is more important for WW2 lore?

Since the Middle East played... Well, close to no part in the war, but Egypt in the war, or Jews in Mandate Palestine are way more significant.

For me, only Raj seems important enough

[hollow coral]

they may add a bit of bonus content in the levant but i dont think egypt will get anything

egypt is a big market they can tap into since a lot of people want it

[hollow coral]

i can vaguely see an m so probably mandate of palestine

[silent prism]

There is also an achievement for Egypt already. At least make it a colony or pupper of UK, maybe add 2-3 factories and some rss

[hollow coral]

the levant is already stretching a bit far from the focal point

[waxen axle]

Do syria, jordan and mandate of palestine gets new states?

[silent prism]

Would be great

[hollow coral]

probably syria

idk about jordan or palestine

[signal cargo]

Syria already has quite a few states idk if they will, maybe state shapes will change but i doubt more

[hearty blade]

Does pakistan and bangladesh get tree i wonder

[hollow coral]

definitley portraits but idk about a tree

[wise oxide]

more countries is always so cool

but needs to be balanced bc allies will be unbeatable soon

[tacit sequoia]

i see separate jordan + palestine

[trim quartz]

Most likely no

[hearty blade]

Unfortunate

[trim quartz]

Unless they do a shared focus tree for the princely states and Pakistan

[hearty blade]

Sad

[trim quartz]

But it looks like they’ve also added Transjordan and Palestine, but thosll probably have no tree as well, just portraits

[fading walrus]

if the princly states are added, they would have shared unqiue focus trees like the Ethopian break away states

[trim quartz]

I’m pretty sure paradox said they would be added

[pseudo mulch]

Now we just need that tiny Omani colony in Pakistan represented

[dire coyote]

WE WANT CHINA REWORK

[waxen axle]

Have you heard about patience?

I want japan and China rework too but we need to be patient

[fading walrus]

its coming

eventually

I hope they make Manchuko less painful

[waxen axle]

But why prototype vehicles is coming on Q3?

Its not hard to create some models

[trim quartz]

It’s February dude, wait

[wise oxide]

*usa

and japan

[quartz igloo]

did hoi4 just got a jewish update

[glossy finch]

Had dev diary dropped

[thick edge]

No

Give it half hour

(I think)

Yup

31 mins

[cosmic falcon]

It's here.

[thick edge]

Yum

[trim quartz]

Yay British Raj

[pseudo wing]

nuh uh

[fading walrus]

Dev Diary

[cosmic falcon]

Dang 😔

[strong sequoia]

LMAO, Subh Bukhair (Good Morning) it is the afternoon and night in the majority of Arab, Muslim and Indian Subcontinent countries

[fading walrus]

I'm suprised that they consideried making the Princley states puppets

Balkanized RAJ

[strong sequoia]

If they don't release Egypt, that would be very very cringe

[thick edge]

Will this India change the imperial federation much?

[fading walrus]

not sure

[glossy finch]

i read the articles and are there three/teo separate military (not navy or air) branches

[jolly terrace]

Litreally raj is nerfed

[strong sequoia]

Why is the DLC releasing on the first days of Ramadan?

[fading walrus]

well it wasn't stable

[jolly terrace]

yes

[fading walrus]

it was a stitched up geopolitcal entity

made by the UK

[drifting star]

Based alert

[fading walrus]

kinda like Iraq

[jolly terrace]

but they didn't even nor try to mention you can stabilize it

[drifting star]

All the focuses gunna be overpowered Islamic ones

[jolly terrace]

and also will harm more good on meta players

[fading walrus]

I think thats were the alt history comes in

[strong sequoia]

Based? Most of us are two tired to play it lol and exams happen in early march if they waited for Eid it is better

[cyan venture]

Greetings Comunity Devs I would like to ask does the map gonna get updated and the provincies made more looks like historical provinces in upcomeing dlc's?

[jolly terrace]

wdym alt hist

[fading walrus]

we only saw the historical

[jolly terrace]

india gotten its independence due to british promised them after ww2 as we know

[drifting star]

Fair enough

[fading walrus]

I meant you throw off British rule

[jolly terrace]

because it can't keep india forever due to independence movement

[fading walrus]

because who wants to wait until 1947 ingame

[glossy finch]

considering the scale so far alt history paths will hopefully be pretty large

[fading walrus]

I don't

[drifting star]

Wonder how they will manage the Indian communal riots ?

[jolly terrace]

thats litreally what everyone don't wait for it

unless for the people in sp want that achievement

[fading walrus]

there will be more achivements for the RAJ

[strong sequoia]

Iraq was already a single region, the only thing made up by the British is adding Kurdistan to Iraq and taking away Ahwaz and Deir Al Zur for some stupid Imperialist reasons

The Iraqi region extends from the tip of the Tigris and the Euphrates till the mountains of Taurus and the Syrian desert were people speak Iraqi/Mesopotamian Arabic and have Iraqi culture

[fading walrus]

when new stuff comes so do new achivements

[fading walrus]

fair

I was refering to Kurdistan

and I was taking info from my dad

who isn't an expert BTW

damn him

he is too into that pop history stuff

[drifting star]

Iraq is gunna be lit , still waiting for a baby sadaam

[fading walrus]

unlike me

[strong sequoia]

I personally think we should let them be free, the lands not only useless but pretty annoying

[fading walrus]

Sadaam was 3 in 1936

[strong sequoia]

He was -1

[fading walrus]

his uncle took part in that coup

[jolly terrace]

hows that useless

[fading walrus]

MB

[jolly terrace]

litreally has rich oil

tell me why did kurds prefer to join turkey during their independence movement?

[fading walrus]

it reminds me of when Pinochete was leader of fascist Chile in 1936

[strong sequoia]

That's Kirkuk, it is pretty diverse Turkmenli, Assyrian ,Kurdish, Arab
The KRG region is pretty useless

[fading walrus]

even though he was not even 20

historically

before that got patched in TOA

[quiet verge]

Is the map final in dev diary or will the Indian provinces get reworked?

[frozen marsh]

the colours look so ugly

[fading walrus]

have you seen Occtania

when you release them from France

[frozen marsh]

no

[fading walrus]

now thats ugly

[drifting star]

Wonder if there will be any ottoman schizo paths since some ottomans have relationships with the prices in the raj

[fading walrus]

who knows

I want my Mughal path

[quiet verge]

Hyderabad

[fading walrus]

Indian state

[strong sequoia]

The Turks and Kurds were best allies before the fall of the Ottoman Empire, they actually committed war crimes and crimes against humanity against the Armenians and Assyrian

[fading walrus]

also had its own kingdom

at multiple points in history

[quiet verge]

Yeah the Kingdom was allied to the Ottomans

[fading walrus]

oh yeah

[fading walrus]

knew that

[quiet verge]

So a possible schizo Ottoman path might start from there

[fading walrus]

but we should change the subject

[fading walrus]

Egypt is fun in EU4

that game covers 1444-1821

[drifting star]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usman_Ali_Khan.jpg

Based portrait

[fading walrus]

you can colonize the Spice Islands as Egypt

[strong sequoia]

Kaiserreich reference?

[fading walrus]

which gets you alot of money

in EU4

oh an you can build the Suez Canal earlier

like 300 years earlier

[quiet verge]

Tbh Ottoman India sounds redundant

[drifting star]

I think so, fun fact his sons are related to the last sultan

[quiet verge]

If India then why not in Xinjiang?

Hell even in Aceh

So

[fading walrus]

@strong sequoia when you play as the Mamluks in EU4 make sure to attack the Ottomans asap

[strong sequoia]

An Ottoman prince was suggested as King of Palestine as some kind of Shizo one state solution

The Brits refused that one

[quiet verge]

Ottoman Palestine

Four Ottoman paths out of Turkey

😭

[fading walrus]

Habsburgs meanwhile

[drifting star]

And they will all be easier than turkey

[fading walrus]

Hungary and Poland

[drifting star]

And more cores and focuses

[granite vessel]

State map pls

[quiet verge]

Hopefully the South Asian map isn't final and will get more worked on

[molten torrent]

so this where we discuss dev posts

i find it confusing why lahore's the capital of pakistan even tho it was karachi irl

before being moved to rawalpindi and finally islamabad

[thick edge]

Where is the Skibidi toilet secret raj path

[molten torrent]

nuclear gandhi path

[polar bronze]

I hope they add more princely states

[molten torrent]

NO PLEASE

[polar bronze]

YES please

[drifting star]

Quality of quantity

[quiet verge]

My guess would be because of Lahore resolution

[molten torrent]

fair enough

but since being pakistani i find it abit bizzare

[drifting star]

2-3 really cool princely state with some flavor is better than 100 micro states

[quiet verge]

Sindh doesn't always end up in Pakistan's hand

[polar bronze]

They dont get trees

[drifting star]

They will prolly get one like Ethiopia releasable

A new generic tree maybe depending if Hindu Muslim or Christian

[polar bronze]

India would never be christian

[quiet verge]

I am sure they only kept the big and contentful ones

[frozen marsh]

so raj wont start off with the princely states?

[drifting star]

There were Christian rulers

There were Christian princes

[quiet verge]

Surely they won't Ayodh as a princely state with no content

[frozen marsh]

awadh u mean?

[quiet verge]

Yeah

[drifting star]

Imagine how cursed all the alt history will be

[cobalt jay]

I love how Paradox have once again demonstrated they don't understand their own game mechanics

[wise oxide]

late game it will be stronger than ever i bet

[frozen marsh]

does raj start off with the princely states or are they releasables?

[molten torrent]

but will pakistan have a focus tree and content though

[quiet verge]

Releasables

[frozen marsh]

why

[cobalt jay]

There is literally no reason to core the Princely States anymore

[drifting star]

Prolly a section of the rah tree

[quiet verge]

I am guessing most branches will be shared

[molten torrent]

i see

[frozen marsh]

damn yeah

but the compliance gain

[molten torrent]

but i wonder what will happen to some borders of kashmir will sinkiang or china unifier take askai chin like irl

[drifting star]

Wonder if you can become mongol empire

[quiet verge]

Mughal?

Surely they are gonna add that

[drifting star]

No Mongol there is a focus

Referencing the true mongols

[quiet verge]

Wonder how they will explain the Durand Line

[drifting star]

But Mughal is awesome as well

[frozen marsh]

will the princely states have generic leaders or the real ones

[molten torrent]

or logistics penalties so conquering afghanistan becomes harder

[quiet verge]

Will Afghanistan start with claims or they can be claimed through focus

[molten torrent]

make it live up to the graveyard of empires

[drifting star]

Hopefully new ones , I don’t think they would mention it this early unless there was something unique

[frozen marsh]

so is it a part of the unhistorical path?

[cobalt jay]

Because I understand what the dev was trying to do here which is to make the Princely states a "core" so it doesn't hamstring India's industry too much, but the problem is that with that bonus if you can keep the compliance on the Princely States to 100% you basically get 200% factories and resources in the Princely States

[frozen marsh]

yeah

[polar bronze]

Hopefully new ones like the german states

[drifting star]

Usman Ali Khan claimed to be caliph

[runic depot]

They will have their relevant prince as leader

[frozen marsh]

niceee

[quiet verge]

Is the map final? Or will it get reworked?

[cobalt jay]

Fun fact the base compliance gain is 0.075% daily so with good stab and low resistance the -0.05% is fake stats

I see a week one patch

Because currently with that occupation law, its literally not worth coring the Princely States

[quiet verge]

We ain't asking the real questions here

Will there be Savitri Devi?

[drifting star]

No unique focuses for Pakistan and Bangladesh

Or Burma

[opal cedar]

is millenium dawn mod bannable?

[drifting star]

?

[wise oxide]

what does that even mean?

[opal cedar]

idk

[thick edge]

Of course it is

It’s the worst thing ever

Don’t EVER mention it

[rocky oasis]

I guess no portraits are ready?

[runic depot]

some teasers

[thick edge]

Hyderabad is crazy

+15% research

Pakistan too

And what’s the British symbol on generals?

[rocky oasis]

Loyalty

Where there loyalty is

You know how some Hungarian generals have the Arrow cross symbol to show how they are loyal to the fascists and will side with them in the event of civil war? It is probably something similar to that, except for when India becomes independent.

[stable tusk]

British loyalty, so if you break free they leave

[cyan venture]

That a lot asien and african pepole

[dusk mist]

i don't see any african people lol

[cyan venture]

XD

Jokes aside there be a lot pepole who be like funk it and become OP as hell ahh like stuff

[cobalt jay]

Its already broken as hell

[drifting star]

Will the princely states get any focuses

[molten torrent]

love how there's Jinnah and the two pak dictators in the general tab

[cyan venture]

Image if the new focuses give them a ton off bonuses on Militsry against overlords

[rocky oasis]

Posted on the forum. I assume this is Bose.

[runic depot]

No.

[crisp rivet]

Makes sense

[dusk mist]

I assume the "historical path" will lead to India getting independance in like 1940-ish, not 1947?

[thick edge]

1947 puppet sounds great

[dusk mist]

Also relating to the dev diary, India was not called into the war; it was negociated in exchange for independance. Thus the 2 million strong volunteer army being a volunteer army.

[cyan venture]

And is the map gonna be updated to be more historical like? Or not yet and is only will focus on the colonies or there be improvements in other nations mostly in UK or France too?

[crisp rivet]

Just realized something

[runic depot]

There's opprutunity to do it early or late, historical AI will always wait until 1947, but since players tend not to enjoy playing puppets we added ways to do it earlier

[crisp rivet]

Why is Iran the main nation if the graveyard of empires is Afghanistan?

[dusk mist]

Is partition (as in how much of a disaster it was) going to be modelled in-game?

Also if you go for a unified state, do you have to take decisions etc to subdue the 2-state proponents?

[cyan venture]

More like Vietnam

[rocky oasis]

Iran is more marketable than Afghanistan, I guess.