latest-updates

[hollow coral]

Now dlc are focused on a particular major or region

[fresh cedar]

Though even with a singular focus, other majors tend to get some content

[hollow coral]

Fair

[fresh cedar]

IMO pacific war would be a good time to rework peace deals or add a province devastation mechanic

Faction system too

[hollow coral]

Like firebombing

[hollow coral]

Factions are bs

[fresh cedar]

Yup, firebombing raids. But I mean a similar mechanic to Stellaris where prolonged bombing and war actually debuffs states

Effecting repair/building speed, supply etc

[hollow coral]

Do nukes lower a country surrender limit?

Or smthn

[fresh cedar]

Can effect stability and war support I believe

[hollow coral]

Cuz when i nuked japan that didnt affect shit

[fresh cedar]

Nukes biggest use is damaging units and disabling a state for 1-2 years

[hollow coral]

Maybe because hirohito gives 50% stability

[fresh cedar]

Makes repairing in a state nearly at a standstill

[fresh cedar]

For Japan have to take every pacific island and then nuke

[hollow coral]

Damn

[fresh cedar]

Even then, they can still say no

Peace deals, surrender system and factions would need a rework for a modern Japan dlc

Specifically for that

Bc Pearl Harbor raid and the nukes

They also don’t have the Soviet invasion of Manchuria

[hollow coral]

Maybe scripted peace deals in historical as an option

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

Like Yalta

[hollow coral]

Diplomacy could use some rework too

Like not a giant one

[fading walrus]

Diplomacy in eu4 and total war is so much better

[hollow coral]

But just make the game more then just getting into an inevitable ww2 scenario

More whitepeaces

[fresh cedar]

Shouldn’t need to conquer every major to end a war

Countries should be able to decide if they want to peace out of a war or not

[fading walrus]

EU4 you can peace out whenever you feel comfortable

[fresh cedar]

HOI4 really needs that

Has gotten much worse than it used to be

[chilly drum]

Woudlnt appouse the diplomacy rework, but its shouldnt be that extensive

Its not the biggest point of the game

[hollow coral]

It doesnt need to be it just gotta be better then the current one where you dont have to bash your head against the wall when the uk guarantees latvia

[fading walrus]

In my Byzantium run I took back my cores from the Ottomans, took a bunch of Money and forced war reparations

In eu4 that is

[fresh cedar]

Considering the current system is abysmal, wouldn’t take much to be lightyears better

[fading walrus]

It sucks because you need Latvia to survive as the Russian empire now

At least you get to join the axis now

So I guess it cancels out the German invasion

[solid gyro]

doubt it the pacific war needs to update a bunch of minors

siam

british malaya

and dutch east indies

and maybe even australia

[fresh cedar]

That’s kinda what I had mentioned before up above ^

[solid gyro]

i rlly dont feel like paradox would do a double whammy with major nations they tend to avoid that

[fresh cedar]

Less about a double whammy for the USA, but rather them adding some content to the pacific war for them. Since they were one of the main actors in it

[solid gyro]

true

[tacit sequoia]

exactly.

[dense gale]

i think its gonna be a japan dlc

but i doubt they would chnage much of the usa focus tree

[silver wren]

just make it easier to navy and maybe add focuses that build some coastal forts for USA, improve Australia, NZ, etc.

[tawny dome]

Yeah

[solid gyro]

honestly they should revamp dimplomacy ideology and factions

sort of like millenium dawn

[trim quartz]

Peace deals and factions should be re worked

Giving lands to puppets

You should be able to do more with puppets, as they’re you’re puppets

Really

[hollow coral]

its bs that you can only get land from focuses or wars

[trim quartz]

Yup

[hollow coral]

idk why they removed the ability to give puppets land in peace deals

as in you cant give land to newly released puppets

[polar jasper]

You can give land to puppets...

What you want added back is giving land to nations you created during the peace deal

I miss that feature greatly

Aaaand you already mentioned that as I haven't read down that far

[trim quartz]

The puppet thing, and the peace deal thing. Like what if I want a big Moldovan puppet, I should be able to give them lands in the conference

Instead they’re only confined to their cores

[harsh hull]

I also miss releasing nations and giving them all sorts of funny borders

Like man, I went to the trouble of capping the Soviet Union, I should be able to give an independent Altai the states it needs to form Siberia

[stuck crater]

east indies should geto one too since they have enough mp to actually do something if they get a good industrial tree

[thick edge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/29okkZBx3L

Alright guys. Hear me out, let’s spend a few hundred dollars on a steam game for class

Host a game

And desync multiple times

[hollow coral]

All you bud

[modern python]

Of course

[outer heron]

something I just remembered, do we have anything for graveyard of empires?

[fading walrus]

No not yet

[fresh cedar]

Most likely will hear about it in February

And release early March

That’s how their previous production timeline has gone

All we know is that it is in the works

[trim quartz]

When February rolls around

[harsh hull]

The first dev diary for Trial of Allegiance was the last Thursday of January last year

So if the release schedules were somewhat similar, I suppose we'd get our first look in 48-ish hours

[hollow coral]

Early next month will probably be the first dev diary

[fresh cedar]

I’d guess next month too just because the scope of GDR and the energy that took to release

[thick edge]

@pseudo wing if to say like a China/japan rework comes, would we have to buy the dlc despite buying waking the tiger?

[hollow coral]

If you bought death or dishonour still had to buy gdr

[thick edge]

Doesn’t hurt to ask

[hollow coral]

I mean paradox is paradox

You still gotta buy it

[dense gale]

I mean tbh i think a good compromise should be maybe people who owned the previous dlc

Get a 5-10% discount

Day 1

[fresh cedar]

I’m down to buy a new one

[thick edge]

Don’t encourage them

[solid gyro]

more f i s h

[pseudo wing]

I don't make the decisions on that kind of thing, so wouldn't know

[crisp rivet]

Why fish

[pseudo wing]

to add onto this, you will know what I know if I get info

[crisp rivet]

I say, if paradox made you in charge of the teaser trailers, we won’t know a thing for the first hour

[thick edge]

Thanks

[silent flame]

it's not looking good 😦

[cobalt jay]

Did you get encircled or something?

[silent flame]

nah I was doing a meta germany build, start barb, get some encirclements, and then tag to soviets and try win

[cobalt jay]

Ah that explains it

[silent flame]

I took finland but wasn't paying attention and lost it to naval invasions

they're cooked now tho

can't push me

[granite vessel]

I think it needs to be changed generate war goal tension limit for fascist and communist by 25%

and make the cost of guarantee independence cheaper for Britain.

[thick edge]

No

The British gaurentees make me want to do self-die

[modern aspen]

love this mod

[thick edge]

cleanlini

[granite vessel]

Why is there little activity?

[stable tusk]

This channel picks up again when info on DLCs drop like Dev Diaries or new announcements/news about them

[fresh cedar]

And because Hethr isn’t brainstorming anymore after getting bullied

[thick edge]

They just disappeared

Thought I was going crazy

But why do u give recommendations for a game u never played

[fresh cedar]

Nah they were brainstorming 24/7 until a few people were like “Why make crazy plans if you never played”

I mean yeah you were instrumental in their downfall 😂

[thick edge]

I mean

She had good ideas

I’m not denying that

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it was Lowkey a safe space for her and it changed when questioned. Think the ideas were valid but also the criticism

[trim quartz]

You should be able to puppet countries and not change their ideology to yours

Perhaps they’ll do something about that with Iraq soon

Britain is democratic, Iraq is non aligned

[tacit sequoia]

she still in the discord lol

[modern aspen]

romania always finds a way to have these insane borders

(ignore Luxembourg)

🫡

[fresh cedar]

Nah DED

[hollow coral]

Yeh but a fascist country having a communist country is kinda weird

Ig

Communist countries can only have communist puppets

Fascist countries can have fascist and non aligned puppets

Democracys can have democratic and non aligned

Yall can make up non aligned

[frozen marsh]

u can puppet the country and then probably flip them later when theyre a puppet

[hollow coral]

It isnt efficient and it isnt very useful

[frozen marsh]

i know but he wants it so badly thats the only way

[hollow coral]

Badly😭

[trim quartz]

I’m saying they should add it as a feature

I want a hot dog so badly bro

[hollow coral]

I just ate one lol

Icl bunnings snags dont hit the same anymore

[chilly drum]

The heck

They never played it?

[thick edge]

Yeah

[chilly drum]

Guys

Im feeling like giving an advice on nuclear fussion

It should include laughning gas

Cus its funny

[thick edge]

See, I’m not the only one

[thick edge]

Lmao

[fresh cedar]

Hethr watched YouTube but never played

So had a better understanding than nothing at all. Just feel like they didn’t entirely get mechanics

Bc they’d compare it to other paradox games

And what works for those wouldn’t for HOI4

Some ideas were cool though, like province devastation similar to stellaris planetary devastation

[chilly drum]

Well, anything to make strategic bombing usefull

[fresh cedar]

Devastation would be neat because ground warfare would also effect it

To actually represent battles ripping through areas

Like if blitzkrieg instantly goes 100 miles, gonna have less devastation than somewhere that’s been fought over for a year

[chilly drum]

Some gut feeling tells me that this is going to be a feature alongside "more deadly urban warfare".

Thats we are getting with free patch.

[fresh cedar]

Like I think ground warfare should have like 50% devastation max whereas strategic bombing can do the other 50%

So if both are used it can cripple areas

Just like in real life

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

Isn’t GOE having that?

[chilly drum]

Yep

[fresh cedar]

Stormtroopers may actually be worth

[chilly drum]

Im 99% sure that all those minecrawlers and bridge vehicles will finally have their use

[fresh cedar]

I just think cities will have mega casualty buffs

[chilly drum]

Since the amount of models is kinda funny

[fresh cedar]

Right there’s so many

I never use them personally

Flame, super heavy arty, heli brigade, recon, anti air

[chilly drum]

The worst part is that they are beautiful

Those german motorbikes are sexy

I use them, they are cheap, but nothing more from the pack

[fresh cedar]

I love seeing and hearing the helicopters

[chilly drum]

In terms of models

[fresh cedar]

Motorbikes are super cool

They need more models for it

Pretty sure only the German one exists in game

But Military police from many countries used them

[chilly drum]

Yeah, the only thing they need is a bit of reconnisanse, since they are mobile and -

...

They do have it

Neat

Probably worth to put on a defensive meat divisions

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it’s the case where armored cars can be useful but there’s better alternatives

[chilly drum]

You know what

Freck it

Im going for poland

With this

And nobody is going to stop me

Stats wise its kinda nice for the cost

Maybe Ill sprinkle in some hard attack and it should be fine

[fresh cedar]

Anti Tank armored cars are actually okay

[polar jasper]

Average Puma player in War Thunder

[autumn breach]

armoured cars are so cursed

[cosmic aurora]

Agreed, I only use them for garrisons once in a while.

[subtle plank]

They are to waste your industry

[chilly drum]

I did some theorycrafting yesterday and decided to try it out for real, going as almost hist Germany while switching to GBP and Prussian Legacy tree

Lets see how it turns out

[chilly drum]

Good news

Armored cars are working

Bad news - they still suck

With NSB its better to just go even the shittiest tank

[dusk mist]

How about with the Swedish lynx ones?

Armoured car recon?

[chilly drum]

Stats are not the problem

Well, they are, there is no armor

But its better just to get tanks and maybe some cars for recon instead of going completely cars or dividing them

[thick edge]

How much armour do the cars even have?

Are the templates built like light tanks?

[chilly drum]

No, they have like 2

Two points of armor

[thick edge]

tahts

sucks

[chilly drum]

At least in the template Im using, cars two are like 4

On average

[fresh cedar]

Kinda weird that in order to edit half tracks, you basically need to build a tank rather than it being its own chassis class

[harsh hull]

Alright, so we are looking at a mid-March release for GoY at best it seems

Assuming it isn't delayed until Q2

[hollow lion]

Since that message was reposted across 3 channels Ive removed it here where its not appropriate

[thick edge]

Huh

[arctic glacier]

fried

gonna spam infantry units without weapons

[thick edge]

Lore accurate

[arctic glacier]

kiev still standing

yeah yeah yeah

DEFEND MOSCOW

uh oh

ok bro

@thick edge stalin what do we d

they bouta encircle us

kiev

KIEV

if we withdrawl from the south we get wooped by the south

[fresh cedar]

My dude this is latest updates. Tends to talk about the game updates 😭 like nice push and all but might be better in general or something

[stable tusk]

When there's no news this becomes general 2

[hollow coral]

ok but real question

why isnt my sweet pavel not a white russian general

[barren tusk]

seriously why uk needs to guarantee many countries?? 😭

also honorable mention to romania for guarantee balkans as well 😭

[hollow coral]

Romania was part pf the balkan pact and little entente so it makes sense because it was the most powerful country in the Balkans after ww1

[hollow coral]

Uk just does that cuz democracy

[fresh cedar]

Artificial way of starting ww2 and preventing snowball ig

[hollow coral]

Little entente should be a starting faction ngl

Ig it kinda would mess up some things

But it makes sense

Iirc it dissolved in 1938

Its still better then a french guarentee

[thick edge]

Actually

I kind of like that

[fresh cedar]

Think they should just rework factions and diplomacy in general. So a faction doesn’t immediately mean guarantees and war

Like stellaris

If they did that, they could also rework lend lease and arms trades

[hollow coral]

Guarentees are bs

[thick edge]

What if have a high relation to say, with the UK and the UK has guarantees, so that lowers the chance of the guarantee working?

[hollow coral]

Even if you have a non aggression pact with the guaranteer they will still be called in

[fresh cedar]

Or maybe the country was an opposing ideology so if they capitulate the UK just gives up and whitepeaces

[hollow coral]

Maybe if you got low opinions with a guarenteer they will revoke it

[fresh cedar]

It’s funny bc UK can kick you out of the Allie’s on a whim

But will defend despots to the grave

[hollow coral]

They just kick anyone that isnt a blue

Even if you havent caused wt

I dont like how the game is presenting that democracys can only mean good

[fresh cedar]

Don’t even get me started on ideologies 😂

[hollow coral]

Even if you caused a lot of wt, if you are democratic you probably wont get kicked from allies

[fresh cedar]

Diplomacy, ideologies, factions, border conflicts, trade, peace deals and lend lease really need work.

[hollow coral]

I think it was just an alignment system

[thick edge]

The UK is racist with the ideologies

They hate the non blue ones

[hollow coral]

☃️

[hollow coral]

Fr

[fresh cedar]

The fact Anarchism, Monarchies, and Military Junta are all the same is egregious

[hollow coral]

Fr

Democracy isnt rlly an ideology either

Its a government system

[thick edge]

I thought anarchism had the communist one?

[fresh cedar]

Nope, non aligned

[thick edge]

Oh

[fresh cedar]

It’s busted

They use non aligned as “Misc” basically

[thick edge]

Damn

[hollow coral]

Some of the non aligned sub ideologies arent even ideologies

[fresh cedar]

@hollow coral Wish there was more flavor like some mods.

[hollow coral]

Just government systems

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[fresh cedar]

Also think anarchism should have its coring become cheaper the more cores it has. Like a snowball system. Or atleast make coring dependent on state pop. So a 10 mil + state is 300 pp whereas a 1 mil is maybe 50

But that’s a non issue

Just preference

[hollow coral]

Its an ideal coring system

And is balanced

[fresh cedar]

Rage bait

[hollow coral]

I mean focus trees are always going to be the most sought product in hoi but atleast devs could make the game more enjoyable then just power creep

[dusk mist]

Is it though? "Republic" seems to be more the "government system", while democracy is the ideology.

Just looked it up, it is absolutely an ideology.

[rocky oasis]

TRUE

Also, why can he become leader of Reichkommisariat Australasien

Our Cossack King is Mr. Worldwide

[hollow coral]

An ideology is a collection of ideas

Democracy is voting for leaders and positions in a government

[hollow coral]

They ran out of party members and just started adding princes

[rocky oasis]

I mean, Pavel was part of the party

He should be added to the White Russia if Poland doesn’t do the Cossack King path.

[hollow coral]

Actually a lot of princes were members of the party

[rocky oasis]

He should also be added as a general for Germany when they recruit the Cossacks and Russia doesn’t go monarchist and Poland doesn’t go Cossack.

[rocky oasis]

Yeah

[hollow coral]

They added the host leaders but not pavel

[rocky oasis]

Pavel would be the thematic Cossack field marshal to be in charge of the Cossack generals.

[hollow coral]

A lot of white generals could be added

[rocky oasis]

Yeah

[hollow coral]

The russian whites just dont have enough

[rocky oasis]

A lot of generals could be added

[rocky oasis]

Yup.

[hollow coral]

Its crazy because yugoslavia, romania, czechoslovakia barely have any generals

[rocky oasis]

Yeah, every member of the Little Entente needs more generals, plenty of prominent generals during the war are just missing (ex. von Reichenau who was one of the German field marshals isn’t in the game in any sort of way, not even as a military expert), White Russia should get looked over again and get fleshed out more, and more non-generic division commanders should be added for countries.

[hollow coral]

Even france

[rocky oasis]

And Portugal

[hollow coral]

Mexico has some generic portraits for generals for some reason

[rocky oasis]

Spain probably got the most love in La Resistance

[rocky oasis]

Same with France and Portugal

[hollow coral]

Smh

[rocky oasis]

And Canada

[hollow coral]

They just got lazy and didnt want to pay the artist ig

[rocky oasis]

Canada is really outdated. I don’t think that there really is an excuse for Portugal and definitely not one for France.

[hollow coral]

Iceland should definitly atleast have one general

You can get one if your fascist

[rocky oasis]

Oh yeah.

[hollow coral]

But they should have added thr police chief guy

[rocky oasis]

Maybe a few more for Paraguay and Uruguay

[hollow coral]

Agnar kofoed hansen

[rocky oasis]

Police chief should be the field marshal

lol

[hollow coral]

Should have been

[fading walrus]

Ive been complaining about this since the end of 2021 when nsb was released

[dense grove]

when will they add the afghanistan one

[stable tusk]

Before end of March

[dense grove]

ok

[dense grove]

and we will get an actual focus tree this time?

[stable tusk]

Yeah
For Afghanistan, Iran, the Raj, and Iraq

[dense grove]

👍 for 🇦🇫

[thick edge]

Would have never guessed u would like an afghan tree

[dense grove]

most mods do it well for us

but i specifically wanted it for vanilla

KX and afghanistan reworked probably amongst the best

[rocky oasis]

What would your expectations be for a vanilla Afghanistan tree?

@hollow coral @fading walrus What White Russian generals should specifically be added?

[fading walrus]

I would have to see the list

[rocky oasis]

List of White Russian generals or is there a list somewhere of White Russian generals not in HOI4

[fading walrus]

In a discontinued mod that overhauled the white army paths

Some of these guys

There was alot in the mod btw

Even some admirals (not Kolchak as he was executed during the civil war)

[dense grove]

anything but the stock one

[rocky oasis]

Yeah.

[hollow coral]

Totally possible to be added

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksey_Krylov

could be an admiral and naval scientist

[fading walrus]

He was in the mod I just posted

[hollow coral]

whats the mod called?

[fading walrus]

White Russia expanded

it was sadly discontinued

[hollow coral]

the anilla tree could have done more than just wargoals honestly

[fading walrus]

agreed

you get two fascist paths in the mod

[hollow coral]

like i dont see how panslavic union is that useful

[fading walrus]

one thats pro German and one thats Pro Japanese

[hollow coral]

its not like you need more cores and manpower

[hollow coral]

interesting

[fading walrus]

Rodzaevsky is the pro Japanese one

which makes sense

as he was in exile in Manchuria until he was lured back into Russia by the NVKD in August 1945

[hollow coral]

the vanilla tree could have added the byzantine plan and zheltorossiya plan

[rocky oasis]

What a majestic beard

Bare minimum, Paradox should add Pavel to White Russia.

[hollow coral]

pavel my sweet summer child

[rocky oasis]

Denikin’s level should also be changed from level one.

[hollow coral]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Verderevsky

[fading walrus]

Agreed

[smoky umbra]

does anyone know that this is?

[hollow coral]

Ig strategic bombers were not bombing the right targets that were selected

[dusk mist]

Just look up the definition

The first result I get (Oxford English dictionary, put forward by Google so I don't even have to click on anything) gives the example "the ideology of democracy"

If you wanna stick to "a collection of ideas", well think about "a collection of ideas about the fundamental principles of government and political organisation". Tada, democracy is an ideology. Also, in many democracies, you do not vote for your leaders or positions in governments. You might vote for representatives, and then those representatives would select a leader, who might appoint positions in government. Indirect democracy, that is called.

[unkempt frost]

yall know any good rework mods that alter minors?

i love minors

i think the generic focus tree needs a bit of a reowrk

[crimson storm]

rt56

[unkempt frost]

I just realized this is the wrong channel

[unkempt frost]

Nvm I found a generic tree mod

Has a path for everything

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiergod-meme-lowtiergod-mods-moderators-gif-6196590610942002814

[thick edge]

I saw that…

[whole forge]

idk why my discord glitched

it duplicated my messag multiple times

srry tho

[verbal wave]

https://tenor.com/view/winton-plush-stuffed-animal-overwatch-ow2-gif-7185088128486365232

[thick edge]

please fix the italian AI

the civil war

[hollow lion]

fixed in rt56

[slow bone]

bruh

[stable tusk]

MODS SELF PROMOTION BAN THIS DELINQUITE

[dusk mist]

does RT56 rebalance tank design for example?

[hollow lion]

Yes

[jaunty nymph]

japan isnt

[dusk mist]

wow, sounds really fun

[opal bone]

im literaly watching my agents get turned over to mexico wtf

they just took a second agent from me

if i wasnt trying to avoid war with japan id come over there!

[stable mica]

Why Vichy-France is not a puppet of Germany? 🤔

[rocky oasis]

Because then Vichy France would immediately declare war on the Allies.

[harsh hull]

Vichy France was a government entity that had signed an armistice with Germany in exchange for allowing the occupation of North and Western France

They were economically dependent on Germany after the Fall of France, but had enough independence to not be considered a puppet state

[stable tusk]

Because then Vichy France would instantly be at war with the Allies which didn't happen irl, instead the Vichy government was neutral

[south meadow]

well without la resistance they are

[hollow coral]

I mean now they could do something similiar to denmark

Vichy france was a pupet in all but name

[dusky stag]

Vichy France was a puppet in all but the fact that it wasn't a puppet

[dusk mist]

Name a single puppet that was a puppet in name

[dusk mist]

Actually it did happen irl

The British fought the Vichy French in Syria for example

Roald Dahl writes about strafing the French airfields

[dusky stag]

Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia

[dusk mist]

still not a puppet in name

but a protectorate

By the way, the Kingdom of Judea was a puppet state of Rome before it became a Protectorate, at which point it was no longer a puppet state.

[fresh cedar]

Have been seeing this pretty much every game. Not sure if it’s intended or not

[thick edge]

I hope it’s not intended

[rocky oasis]

Is Roald Dahl in game as an agent? If not, he should be.

[dusk mist]

yeah, bonus to political pressuring or whatever it's called

[stable tusk]

He wasn't a spy irl, Fleming was but Dahl preferred to be in the air

[dusk mist]

He was sent to the us as an attaché, to raise support for the war

There is a similar mission Spies can do

[stable tusk]

Yeah I know about that, he was close friends with the Roosevelt family

[dusk mist]

That would be enough to make him a spy imo

With the trait which makes him better at that

So that's the mission you would use him for anyway

[dusk mist]

Ok just looked it up

He was absolutely a spy

From the trash AI Assistant:

He worked for the British Security Coordination (BSC), a covert espionage network that spied on the United States.
How did Dahl become a spy?
Dahl was recruited by the BSC in 1942
He was sent to the British Embassy in Washington, D.C. as an assistant air attaché
He worked in a division of MI6 alongside Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bond
What did Dahl do as a spy?
He helped convince American officials to join the war effort
He gave Churchill reports on FDR's health
He was tasked with seducing Claire Booth Luce, the wife of Henry Luce, an anti-British isolationist

So he can get the influencing trait, the seducer trait, and the Norwegian language

[rocky oasis]

Not all of the agents in-game are spies.

[teal talon]

At some point in the near future 3 countries need major updates:
-all of china
-Japan
-USA

[polar jasper]

Poor UK

And France

[teal talon]

Those also

Also they political parties need an update

[polar jasper]

Nah

[teal talon]

Anarchism and Monarchy should be separated

[polar jasper]

The current 4 ideological groups are fine

Nah, they fall under nonaligned

They are not aligned with the other 3 groups

So they get those rule set

They only get a +10 instead of a +20 opinion

Odd, but okay

[mossy niche]

Hello guys! I haven’t really played since the new DLC came out. We are playing multiplayer with some friends what is the current meta? What were the big chsnges?

[polar jasper]

Mass mob inf paired with lots of air support

Battleplan to victory

Like 7 battalions or something like that per division and have 100s of them

[mossy niche]

What about this new facilities?

[polar jasper]

Land to get flame tanks

Air to get a lot of the good stuff

And nuclear facilities for reactors and nukes

[mossy niche]

So small widths?

[hollow coral]

Ideologies arent rlly ideologies they are just alignments

[cosmic falcon]

So France is in need of a second rework?

[polar jasper]

France could use a touch up, maybe not a full rework, but it has many 70 day focuses that do barely anything

[uncut tulip]

France should get a rework you mean

It has a shit focus tree

[hollow coral]

Compared to pther majors it doesnt get many buffs

Its just fixing debuffs which which ultimately still make it less powerful then germany

Also it probably has the second shortest focus tree for majors

Chile has a longer focus tree than france

[polar jasper]

Okay. I guess put every major before No Step Back on the rework list

[safe plover]

oh come on pdx fix ur damn game

[tacit sequoia]

USA + Japan definitely needs a combined DLC, or atleast a pacific war dlc for Japan. (Would make sense since it’s 80 years since Surrender of Japan during WW2)

Though I’m waiting for a little entente rework in HOI4 (Czechoslovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia, possibly Albania or Greece depending on which need it.)

[fresh cedar]

Man was really hoping the announcement would be for GOE. Guess it’ll be later this week or next week then

[cosmic falcon]

I predict that we will get dev diaries about GOE sometime this month.

[dusk mist]

hoi4 board game wat?

[dusk mist]

it's also 80 years since surrender of germany

you know

it's 80 years since end of ww2

it doesn't make any more sense for it to be for japan than any other (although japan needs it)

if anything it makes sense to say "end of ww2 ==> end of hoi4"

[cosmic falcon]

Imagine a 2-part Pacific War rework DLC where the first part is a rework for Japan and China while adding content for Siam. Then the second part is a rework for the USA and Australia while adding content for the Philippines, British Malaya and the Dutch East Indies.

[dusk mist]

a commonwealth touchup would be nice too

[cosmic falcon]

And for another separate DLC, I'd like to see a rework for the UK, Canada and New Zealand while also adding content for Ireland.

[strong sequoia]

55 days till the end of Q1 2025 yet no Graveyard of Empires teaser

[thick edge]

Imagine they release all the teasers and DLC on the last day

[flat walrus]

Yeah there's one 70 day focus for some bad modifiers which I immediately revoke

[flat walrus]

And it's releasing Q1 2025?

[strong sequoia]

I think so

[harsh hull]

That's the estimated release date they gave in October

But if you know anything about production lead time, you know that you should never take the first date given as guaranteed

That said, 55 days is plenty of time for this deadline

[stable tusk]

Especially since there's 4 countries, so 4 maybe 8 dev diaries total
You can cram all those in the beginning of March and release the DLC at the end no problem

[hollow coral]

Probably less then 8

[stable tusk]

Prob, unless they start giving focus trees to releasables or Bhutan/Nepal

[hollow coral]

They might get mini trees like they did uruguay and paraguay

Maybe tibet if were lucky

[polar jasper]

6 dev diaries

Countries, base game changes, art and achievements

That is what I'm betting

[rocky oasis]

I am betting at least 7. No way the Raj/India is getting just one dev diary.

[cursive sparrow]

Not bad, but I'd rather have Japan + China + possibly USA

Please remove the warlords they're so useless

[tacit sequoia]

warlords may have their own trees soon if there's just a china rework

i would think that japan + usa pacific war, then country pack of the chinese warlords + china.

[cursive sparrow]

I'd like to see the warlords removed altogether because they literally have NO historical accuracy

And replacing it is something like Pax Britannica Germany mechanics

[tacit sequoia]

maybe there isn't some "historical accuracy" but it is still fun to play as sinkiang and conquer turkestan. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive sparrow]

Or EAW Coltva-Colthage authority mechanics

[cursive sparrow]

True, and fascist Guangxi is literally OP

Still

If warlords are to exist we probably need 20 of them

And power struggle isn't represented enough either

[tacit sequoia]

just like eight years of resistance?

if that's what you're implying for a china rework

[cursive sparrow]

Probably something like that

[hollow coral]

Too cpmplicated

Tbf most warlords were loyal to the central government

I think the current warlords we have a perfect

[hollow coral]

That would just make china op

And it isnt realistic

About a pacific dlc

I dont think that would happen

The last time two majors were in a dlc was mtg

And new dlc are based of a singular region

Pacific is too broad to make it a singular region

[hollow coral]

Realistically what would be in a warlord tree

[cursive sparrow]

Why

[hollow coral]

Even alt his would be a stretch

[cursive sparrow]

Each warlord should give a debuff

[hollow coral]

Just guangxi

They have all the resources

[cursive sparrow]

Im thinking of something like Yugoslavia

[hollow coral]

Either that or add more resources to china

[cursive sparrow]

yk how they have all the Slovene Nationalism or Macedonian Resistance thing

That'll probably work well on China

Like "warlord corruption"

or something like that

[hollow coral]

Wouldnt make sense

[cursive sparrow]

What if even more faction management?

[hollow coral]

Warlords rn are perfect

[cursive sparrow]

I want more paths for China

[hollow coral]

Except probably shouldnt be independant

Puppets atleast

Shanxi guangxi and yunnan were loyal to nanjing

[cursive sparrow]

idk abt that, they can get independent quickly by a civil war

[cursive sparrow]

mhm

[hollow coral]

Thats every puppet

[cursive sparrow]

That's why they need a unique thing

They need a major expansion

[hollow coral]

Warlord state puppet modifier

[cursive sparrow]

Oooooooooohhhhh yeah

Something like that

[hollow coral]

Nanjing government cannot build or move troops through the warlord territory

But they can still be annexed at some point

[fresh cedar]

Wouldn’t want these countries to be so locked into one path. Removes flavor and change from the game.

[hollow coral]

What path

[cobalt jay]

Because a unified China in 36 using current numbers would have a roughly equivalent economy to Germany, which combined with their 30 million pop on volunteer only would absolutely break the game

[thick edge]

China soloing a major with 10 million on disarmed nation

[fresh cedar]

Sorry just woke up and interpreted you as saying warlords would be locked to their own territories and couldn’t assist in the others

[hearty blade]

ngl u can just throw buncha bad spirits at this and bad leaders and make it more historically accurate and still nerfed

[wise oxide]

GoE

east middle dlc☝🏻

[glossy finch]

so the HoI4 yt account riddle is a hint we'll get more news of GoE

soon

[tacit sequoia]

Prolly today

[harsh hull]

The riddle, if you don't follow the Youtube channel

[hollow coral]

It doesnt rlly mean anything though

We already know that dev diarys are coming

And that graveyard of empire is coming

[fading walrus]

Thats Afghanistan

[fresh cedar]

Graveyard

First “teaser” to the graveyard of empires dlc

I guess the only thing we could theorize about it is that certain combat situations will be deadlier

[trim quartz]

Perhaps tonight

[rocky oasis]

BOURBON-BHOPAL CONFIRMED!

[cosmic falcon]

I guess this tells us that the dev diaries are coming really soon.

Maybe next week?

[fresh cedar]

Would be my guess. Normally would be around the 7-8th but considering that’s a Friday-Sat gonna guess next week

[wise oxide]

i read british raj and got exited but its just another lame challenge

with pathetic prises😭

[fresh cedar]

It’s a nice way to engage the community and help people who potentially otherwise couldn’t afford DLC. But it definitely has me a little bummed it isn’t GOE

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

what would a better prize be

tell us

[wise oxide]

country packs for 2&3 and big dlc for 1st

not armor or music pack😭

[thick edge]

literally no one i have ever seen has complained about it

[wise oxide]

prizes sounded bad in my head idk

[thick edge]

its free

[pseudo wing]

I mean, I could just... Not do them

but I would rather people have a chance at grabbing something

[wise oxide]

the pin just gives false hope

[pseudo wing]

how is it false hope, if I may ask?

[wise oxide]

bc i was hoping we get some actual news and the challenges are not for me

i have all dlc anyways

[thick edge]

then dont do them...?

https://tenor.com/view/the-um-gif-24376321

[pseudo wing]

Respectfully, I understand the wanting news on the latest DLC, but to call the Challenges and their prizes 'shit' is non constructive, and also unnecessary when its my way to try and give back to the community at least in some form

If something is not for you, I get it, but there's no need to insult it

[fresh cedar]

Probably isn’t within budget

After-all it’s a company for profit. It’s kind of nice they give anything out. I get what you’re trying to say but to outside observers it comes across as entitled

[wise oxide]

what budget its litterally just data that they sell

[wise oxide]

if 2 more peolpe get a dlc it wont harm anyone

[fresh cedar]

Digital assets such as games still do have price tags attached to them.

[fresh cedar]

Again, seems like a complaint about a non-issue

[wise oxide]

yes but they make it once and can sell infinite copies

just saying🙏🏻

[fresh cedar]

It’s a bit more complicated than that but I get what you’re trying to argue

[thick edge]

he has a bit of a point there ngl...

[wise oxide]

i just think the ping should be on a "challenges" channel bc im here for the real news💪🏻(my opinion no need to attack me)

[fresh cedar]

So typically when a company gives away an asset as a means of connecting with their customer base, and the customers shit on it. Such gifts are revoked

So while in your head this complaint may lead to more, it may only lead to less

So now you’re punishing people that otherwise could’ve gotten the items

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-braveheart-charge-attack-gif-11448206846315415195

[wise oxide]

i dont really care about it i just dislike the fact i get pinged the same way if a major dlc released

[thick edge]

i mean

u could try to do the challenges

when u win

give the dlc/pack to someone else

[wise oxide]

fair

[fresh cedar]

Some people genuinely enjoy and benefit from the challenges. So maybe if you have nothing constructive or positive to say about it, just rephrase it? “Darn wish it was a dev diary” not “screw this outreach program”

[wise oxide]

but i dont play hoi that way

[wise oxide]

its more bc they are teasing us and many people expected news today

[fresh cedar]

Okay, so be patient. I understand it might be frustrating but I don’t think your approach was great.

As someone with 6k hours I tend to watch HOI4 updates closely. I get it

[wise oxide]

hear me out. if hoi 4 team hired modders hoi would be 2x better

[jovial furnace]

Isnt the dlc winner of the challenge in war? I dont think a dangerous naval invasion in east china sea occours to a nation in peace.

[wise oxide]

i love patch notes

a little too much

i cry when someone doesent tell me every single minor change

[thick edge]

lol

[fresh cedar]

Still think it’s a great way to connect to the community and should be kept up with! 🙂

[jovial furnace]

@pseudo wing

[thick edge]

i should of thought of doing that

im pretty sure u can dismiss the at war icon too

[pseudo wing]

wdym, I dont see anyone at war

[thick edge]

no air superiority

u only get that while at war

[pseudo wing]

tsk

missed that, 4th place gets it then

[jovial furnace]

Thats an armor pack winner

[thick edge]

andrew

[jovial furnace]

This is the guy who won the dlc

[pseudo wing]

hm, guess i am blind, then

[thick edge]

henry is the only good one i think

[thick edge]

ur fine

no one else noticed it either

[jovial furnace]

the winner is rng right?

[fresh cedar]

Wait what happened

[thick edge]

cheat

[pseudo wing]

too many things to do, didn't spend enough time going over every single pixel of the submissions

edit: spelling

[fresh cedar]

Wdym

[pseudo wing]

is my bad i suppose

[jovial furnace]

then reroll ig

[thick edge]

the audacity of u

all those pixels

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

car burrito

[pseudo wing]

can't do that with ones that have already been distributed, but I will change the winners

[jovial furnace]

reroll those 2 i meant...

[pseudo wing]

I know what you meant, however if a prize is already given out (aka the code) i cannot rescind it

and one was already given out

[fresh cedar]

Do we need to go to their house and make them refund it for you

[pseudo wing]

nah, just means I expand my cheater/blacklist

[thick edge]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Don’t you love it when the community communities a little too hard

[pseudo wing]

eh, shit happens, as is evident even I make mistakes

just means I should pay more attention, although its a bit hard when doing 238746239874623 things at once lol

[fresh cedar]

Your seem to wear many hats in your job

[pseudo wing]

I do a lot of the background stuff alongside the socials stuff, just a lot to do all the time aha

wearing many hats means I can help out with everything that is needed, makes it smoother for everyone

[jovial furnace]

When will the new winners be announced?

[harsh hull]

• New post in #hearts-of-iron-news
• It's a HOI Challenge

My last two remaining neurons fired, but were disappointed

[jovial furnace]

What were they disappointed in?

[fresh cedar]

All those blog posts, and event planning things

[tacit sequoia]

Challenge is a good song tbh

[hollow coral]

YESS

Long live bourbon bhopal

True kings of france

[heavy bolt]

any news on when dev diary is gonna come out?

[hollow coral]

soon this month

[solid gyro]

My schizo prediction is that it will release on Bangladesh’s Independence Day which is March 26. So if we give 6 weeks for the Dev Diaries. So Feb 15 should be announcement day

[stable tusk]

Well the Dev Diaries for GDR started on German Unity Day

But Bangladesh Independence Day is a bit too much of a stretch

[hollow coral]

Not impossible but very late

Or someday idk

Wtf am i saying

Its not india day

[stable tusk]

yeah I was thinking isn't that in August

[hollow coral]

But dev dairies probably release soon

Maybe mid this month

[glad herald]

When does france run out of manpower?

[hollow coral]

When it runs out of manpower it runs out of manpower

There isnt a time estimation

[glad herald]

I mean't like how many casualties they can sustain without running out of manpower, not like the average ti,e

time*

[hollow coral]

Manpower isnt an issue for france

[glad herald]

Well im having some issues right now

[hollow coral]

Unless its early game

[glad herald]

yeah what did I do wrong

its 1941 or 1942

[hollow coral]

Send your national spirits you currently have

[glad herald]

I got rid of all my manpower debuffs

[glad herald]

Alr

[solid gyro]

I know but I couldn’t find anything else to relate it back to march lol 😂 but I heard they may be doing stuff with Indian independence so it may no be tooo crazy. We got Month and a half to see

[rocky oasis]

@hollow coral I don’t think it will be on a holiday this year.

[hollow coral]

i never said it was

[rocky oasis]

That being said, if it was to be on a holiday and Paradox were willing to take a bit of a risk they should maybe delay the DLC release to April 28.

[hollow coral]

are you serious my boi

[rocky oasis]

Seems perfectly legitimate. You should click on the link.

[trim quartz]

I reckon the trailer will release tonight

[jovial furnace]

The dlc winner wasnt changed, right?

[hardy relic]

When does graveyard of empires drop

[dull tundra]

Guys!

Hoi4 is posting puzzle pieces on their social medias!!!!

[crisp rivet]

They are?

[dull tundra]

Yeah!

I found two so far

[crisp rivet]

And how long ago did they post the two?

[dull tundra]

I think around 10 minutes ago

[harsh hull]

15 minutes ago

[dull tundra]

Yeah sry I was a bit off

[harsh hull]

And that's surely a picture of the Himalayas

Nepal and Bhutan focus trees confirmed, obviously

[thick edge]

It’s a Waffle House

[thick edge]

Finally

[crisp rivet]

Now people can stop asking for them

But what about Tibet?

[harsh hull]

Save that for the China DLC

[crisp rivet]

Wouldn’t they also count

[crisp rivet]

I see

[thick edge]

Tibet is basically China

[dull tundra]

They’ve been doing riddles all week

[thick edge]

(+1000 social credit)

[crisp rivet]

And…that’s the only downside to not having social media

[harsh hull]

Yeah, I don't know why we're doing ARG things right now

[dull tundra]

What other social media platforms have they posted on?

[harsh hull]

Like, we already know what the next DLC is, and what countries are in it

[dull tundra]

Yeah it IS weird

[crisp rivet]

Unless…

It’s for next dlc

[harsh hull]

Beating around the bush is a bit redundant

[crisp rivet]

After GOE

Just a theory

[dull tundra]

No because the riddles where for GOE

[crisp rivet]

And how are we sure

[dull tundra]

Uhhhh

Because the riddle say “graveyard” and “empire”

Bit hard NOT to be for GOE right?

[crisp rivet]

I didn’t know the riddles. I don’t have any other social media other then this

[dull tundra]

GUYS

FOUND ANOTHER ONE

[crisp rivet]

Someone needs to photoshop them together

ASAP

[dull tundra]

Tru tru

[crisp rivet]

Wait…

Is that a horse or a donkey

At de bottom

[dull tundra]

Can’t tell…..

[harsh hull]

Hm, that rug looks like it has a number on it

Might be there's a date written on it if you find the right pieces

[crisp rivet]

When they release them too

But I think so too

Or at least it’s a message

[harsh hull]

But, I don't have patience to play this sort of thing

Good luck on the hunt for .jpgs

[crisp rivet]

I think the devs are laughing at us for all this time overthinking on three puzzle pieces

Or at least are glad we noticed

[harsh hull]

I mean, I spent about 10 minutes idly thinking about it before getting bored with it

So if that's worth a laugh, why not

[dull tundra]

Okay so what other places could these be?

These where on YouTube

Twitter

And Facebook

[thick edge]

What’s twitter

I only know X

[dull tundra]

Okay X

so on
YouTube
X
And Facebook

[harsh hull]

What's X, I only know Twitter

[dull tundra]

Okay….. twitter

Can someone please start looking

I’ve reached a dead end

Guys has anyone found more pieces?

[harsh hull]

Oh, they'll probably post more tomorrow

Be annoying about it

[dull tundra]

Hmmmm

Is there any places I should check?

[floral anvil]

Uhm

Maybe steam

[dull tundra]

Nope

[floral anvil]

Bluesky?

[dull tundra]

Got one

This was on blue sky nice job odds

Can someone photoshop these together?

[hazy temple]

Nothing on reddit is weird

Maybe weibo?

[dull tundra]

Weibo?

What’s that?

[thick edge]

None of those can connect

They don’t interlink properly

[dull tundra]

Uh oh

There must be way more

[jovial furnace]

@pseudo wing

[dull tundra]

Uhhhhh what other platforms does hoi4 post on?

[jovial furnace]

the dlc winner is at war too

[jovial furnace]

was*

[thick edge]

As Chak said

Some people already claimed the prize

He can’t unclaim

Or take the prize back

[jovial furnace]

so that basically means a cheater won the dlc and walks away with it without any consequences?

[thick edge]

He can’t win in the future

There isn’t much he can do

[rocky oasis]

You all missed this due to your puzzle quest. Answer is empire, obviously.

[rocky oasis]

None of these pieces seem like they connect with each other. We need to find more pieces before we put these together.

[jovial furnace]

couldnt he block the user before claiming, or do anything? not necessarily saying all these bc I should have won the dlc or anything, its rng but least reroll the winner, these people actually worked for it

[harsh hull]

Gang, it's an ARG, they'll post other pieces across multiple days

[rocky oasis]

Paradox forums? Steam?

[dull tundra]

Checked them

[harsh hull]

It's not meant to be completed in one day

[rocky oasis]

We will speed run this ARG

[dull tundra]

Any other suggestions?

[rocky oasis]

lol

[rocky oasis]

Nah, we will have to wait for more pieces to be released over the next few days.

[dull tundra]

Yeah but I feel their like ONE media we haven’t checked yet

[harsh hull]

But if we must put on tinfoil hats, then I'll say that that symbol on the blue square looks like an 8

[rocky oasis]

Unless there is a platform that we are forgetting. BlueSky?

[harsh hull]

Tomorrow's the 8th, but nobody does anything on a Saturday

So my guess is that the dev diaries are starting from 2/18

[thick edge]

Nah,
8/8

[jovial furnace]

or does it really hurt him to give out another dlc for another rerolled winner? it was his mistake, yet others suffer from it

[rocky oasis]

Have we searched through discord for any puzzle pieces lol.

[thick edge]

Where would they hide it

[dull tundra]

I found one in bluesky

[thick edge]

Steam?

[dull tundra]

Yup

[thick edge]

Steam community?

[dull tundra]

Yup

[thick edge]

Hm

[rocky oasis]

I thought you checked steam

We probably have to wait for more to come out.

[dull tundra]

Yup as in I checked there

[rocky oasis]

Okay

[rocky oasis]

Someone on twitter figured out the puzzle

[crisp rivet]

We got a new peice just now

In general

[rocky oasis]

We have three corner pieces now

[crisp rivet]

Yeah

[thick edge]

I knew it

I’m not even lying

I thought of that imediatly

[rocky oasis]

lol

[rocky oasis]

I think we can make a connection.

[thick edge]

Is that a screaming sound?

[thick edge]

Peanut?

[crisp rivet]

Photoshop it

[thick edge]

Looks a bit like it ngl

[crisp rivet]

I think we need our own role for these things

Better communication

And logistics

[rocky oasis]

How big are these puzzles usually? Like, how many pieces? They have done the puzzle thing before, but I forget how many pieces they had.

Update: they do not connect. The blank is bigger than the tab.

[jovial furnace]

is chak alive?

[runic depot]

[jovial furnace]

that means a no?

[runic depot]

I have no idea lol

[jovial furnace]

Cuz I still want his explanation and solution to this challenge situation

[pseudo wing]

I have already given the explanation.

I have changed the key winner that I could, and the one that I cannot I cannot. That being said, I do not have endless keys to keep giving things out, and cannot 'retract' a key myself. I just have to keep a note of who is eligible for the future, I have blacklists and eligibility lists for people who subvert the challenge rules and whatnot. I can understand your frustration, however.

[pallid hollow]

Hello @runic depot ^^

[jovial furnace]

Shouldnt you atleast roll a new winner? I know its twice the amount of rewards you would give out for 1st place but its still better than leaving those who actually put their heart and effort into this challenge (me included) in the dust without a chance, only for a cheater to run away with the reward.

• that guy already walked away with the dlc, which can be up to 25 euros, i dont think he will even be interested in actually competing in challenges anymore

its a slap on the wrist for him/her

[pseudo wing]

I have already explained my side, I am going to have to ask you to stop.

This is not the topic for this channel, and have already explained my side, you do not have to keep making the same exact point worded differently.

I have changed what I can, there is nothing more that I can do. Mistakes happen, and I am only human, but there is no reason for you to constantly ping me (including the ones that you've deleted) to try and change something that I cannot further change.

[jovial furnace]

Wow, getting personal over a mistake YOU made which made a lot of others disappointed?

• there isnt a 'complaining about Chak's mistakes' channel

[pseudo wing]

Respectfully, the only person getting personal here is yourself.

I am simply stating the facts of my side, and you are getting irate. If you have an issue with me, make a ticket, arguing in public is what I am telling you to stop doing. I will not be asking again

[jovial furnace]

The whole point is me being frustrated, and you know that

[buoyant ore]

popcorn time

[jovial furnace]

Anyways, that just means that doing these challenges are worthless, thanks for this lesson

[dull tundra]

Uhhhh anyone wanna talk about the puzzle?

[jovial furnace]

Teaser about another ridiculously expensive country pack, thats it

[pallid hollow]

Any thoughts on it yet? 👀

[dull tundra]

I think it’s gonna be the poster for GOE, like, the picture on steam

[pallid hollow]

Oooh I like that idea

[pallid hollow]

Is there anything in particular that you'd be keen on for GOE?

[rocky oasis]

I have been working in photoshop. Thought the piece in discord connected with another one, but it didn’t.

[dull tundra]

Hmmm I’m excited for the achievements and art, as well some cool paths to reform Persia maybe?

[dull tundra]

Interesting

[rocky oasis]

Corner pieces (found so far). Not the best looking since I am not good at photoshop.

[jovial furnace]

lol, fraser trying to hide our arguments this way really?

[pallid hollow]

Yesss, I absolutely LOVED going through the Gotterdammerung Arts & Achievements back in November

[pallid hollow]

I wanna talk about the fun stuff we've been doing

[dull tundra]

Looks AMAZING

I wonder if Iraq could do something fun stuff with its oil

[jovial furnace]

You dont have to hide it, its your job but atleast don't be this deliberate. Be somewhat transparent buddy

[dull tundra]

Or if Britain and Russia could split Iran

[pallid hollow]

Nah I get that, but I'm genuinely excited about it - Been playing the game for years, so it's nice talking about it with others 👍

[rocky oasis]

The portraits for Hungary in the art and achievements dev diary eventually led me to the horrifying discovery and realization that the star of Götterdämmerung was Hungary, not Germany. Not because of the quality, but because Hungary got 5 non-generic division commanders.

[pallid hollow]

See, I joined right at the start of November so before it released, and I was so hyped for all of the Belgium reworks

[rocky oasis]

2 in the 1936 start date, 2 from the Rongyos guard focus, and 1 from a focus that gives you a bicycle division.

[pallid hollow]

Funny you say that though, I honestly prefer going Austria ever since GDR came out

[rocky oasis]

Fair. Would you like to hear the full story of how I found out about Hungary getting unique stuff?

[pallid hollow]

Yeah! It's not something that I was familiar with to be honest, so I didn't expect that ^^

[dull tundra]

Hmmm hopefully more puzzle pieces soon

[jovial furnace]

So should I create a ticket? If you are not rerolling?

[pseudo wing]

instructions unclear, bella ciao found on spotify instead

https://open.spotify.com/track/3o9Uooa09RrkoeqNgM0nfL?si=36b092a3cbd04f4d

[dull tundra]

All the better!

[pseudo wing]

If you have an issue with me, go for it, I will not continue the conversation in this channel in the future so as to keep it on topic.

[jovial furnace]

Whatever, just thought we could discuss the issue and make a compromise as 2 adults here, turns out no.

[rocky oasis]

Alright, so keeping up with the dev diaries. Go through the art and achievements. Quickly go over the Hungary stuff while looking through the art. See the new Miklos Horthy, Otto, and Habsburg Mexican puppet leader. There are also three guys in military outfits. Figure they are generals. I move on and look through the rest of the dev diary. At some point someone on the Reddit posts about who those guys were. Found it interesting. Anyways, I liked playing as Hungary, so first time playing the new DLC decide to try it out. I decided to check and see where those guys are. Not in the general list, a bit weird, but focuses can give you generals. Keep playing. Keep checking general list as I am getting new generals through the focuses. They don’t show up. I began wondering where they are. I began looking through the Hungarian characters in the files, they aren’t there. Forget why, but eventually I check the division commanders. Lo and behold, there they are.

[jovial furnace]

Without going for an escalation in the tickets I mean...

[dull tundra]

Awesome

[pallid hollow]

You are more than welcome to drop a DM to @polar badger to open a Support Ticket, and we'll take it further through the appropriate channels. This channel is not the place to do that, dude. ^^

[rocky oasis]

I also ended up finding out that Hans Krebs was added during my browse through the files, meaning there is only one person from the Hitler rant scene not in the game (Burgdorf).

[jovial furnace]

He was online and talking here just after he announced the winners, its the best opportunity to catch him

[dull tundra]

Do you think he’ll ever be added?

Btw I hope next Wednesday they fully announce GOE, I’ve keep looking at the forums on Wednesdays hoping it’s there!

[pallid hollow]

I understand, and I do empathise with how frustrated you are with this, but at this stage if you're still dissatisfied, then all I can recommend is open a support ticket and we'll engage further there.

Otherwise, we're just going around in circles at the moment, and it isn't productive for any of us ^^

[rocky oasis]

Don’t know. Hope they add some more generals/admirals to the major powers (and White Russia).

[dull tundra]

btw if they do a Japan rework late this year, could they release an update to the us or uk too?

[jovial furnace]

I will do the ticket tomorrow dw, you dont have to repeat it multiple times, thus 'going in circles'. I was just telling you that this was a good opportunity to freshly confront him of what he did.

[thick edge]

I think bro wants to win the challenge 🙏

[harsh hull]

Japan, Thailand, Burma, Dutch East Indies for one DLC
America, Australia, Malaysia, Phillipines for another

[jovial furnace]

Partly, of course. But also give all of us who actually did the challenge right a chance

[rocky oasis]

2 of the German field marshals aren’t in the game at all (von Reichenau and Busch), Schörner is only available as an infantry expert and not as a general, von Falkenhorst (guy in charge of the invasion of Scandinavia, not a field marshal) is only available as a chief of army for Finland and not as a general or advisor for Germany, etc., etc. not going to advocate for every general to be added, but these are probably the ones that definitely should be added. Hammerstein-Equord and von Tresckow should also probably be added as generals for alternate history Germany when you rally the Wehrmacht.

[jovial furnace]

If atleast a reroll occours then it will give a DLC to a person deserving it. It may be me, it may not be me, but I will be way happier for anyone else from this manchukou gang to win the DLC than a cheater. I hope you understand

[thick edge]

I feel like Australia could have potential

The most recent Swinceball video about it (it’s a mod ik) would be really cool

Like I want to play Australia now

[little ore]

do we have any other pieces?

[chilly drum]

...there is an ARG?

[rocky oasis]

You are missing this one

[thick edge]

I feel like the top right doesn’t fit

[glossy finch]

What are the puzzle pieces together

[little ore]

i mean, it is a corner, so it must be there

[rocky oasis]

Top left is corner

[chilly drum]

Im confused, why we are suddenly showing GoE poster cut into puzzle pieces?

[rocky oasis]

Top right is not a corner piece.

[glossy finch]

the devs posted the obvious puzzles

[little ore]

yeah, my bad

[rocky oasis]

@little ore where did you find the bottom right piece?

[glossy finch]

Are the pieces only the poster we already know or do they form something different

[thick edge]

I know

Just

Looks odd

[harsh hull]

Okay, so it's definitely just the release date/date for the first dev diary split up into 12-15 pieces

[glossy finch]

do we actually know the date or are we working on it

[rocky oasis]

I said right, not left

[dull tundra]

Sooo cool

[little ore]

my bad

[harsh hull]

Need more pieces to reveal what the blue design is trying to say

I'm guessing it's an 8 on the known piece

[thick edge]

Is that a screaming sound

[rocky oasis]

The piece with the column. Where was it.

[little ore]

instagram

[thick edge]

Why is it coming closer

[little ore]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DFxwoj9TTTo/

hearts_of_iron_pdx

There must be more pieces out there..

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