latest-updates

[buoyant ore]

block the western urals

[cobalt jay]

Also Chak, who shortened Götterdämmerung to WUW?!

And what does WUW even stand for?

[pseudo wing]

i did not do that

who the hell shortened it to that

[cobalt jay]

idk, its what file explorer says

[pseudo wing]

hmm, could be the file naming convention from before release

wunderwaffen

[cobalt jay]

Also Congo and Hungary get a special prefix for some reason

[pseudo wing]

no idea

is odd

[zenith cargo]

Dlcs usually have internal names before they get their "official" names

[cobalt jay]

I get that, but why do Hungary and Congo have separate prefixes then?

[zenith cargo]

No idea, whoever named it didn't follow the same standard, or there was no standard when they were created. It's not a big issue since file names have no real meaning when loaded

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-morgan-bay-harbor-butcher-it's-over-dexter-meme-gif-7815920268234567353

i see u typing jon

[polar jasper]

Hoi5 better have a globe so I can put nuclear missiles in the midwest and western states

Because you can't do that with the current flat map

[thick edge]

btw

can we choose which seazones a naval invasion goes through?

[polar jasper]

I don't think so

You just have to pick a port that goes the direction you want

It tries to go the shortest route

[thick edge]

like to say, a naval invasion from west norway to faroe, wont go through the north sea

dang

[polar jasper]

Interesting

[sleek moat]

You give me creeps, you know that dexter?

[cobalt jay]

Yes

If you have MTG that is

[tacit barn]

Hello

[barren tusk]

maybe i need more air supremacy or better template?

[south meadow]

your not even using marines bro

and why is bro still with cavalry 😭

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-riding-horse-beach-gif-23184979

[barren tusk]

cavalry was at the beggining they game me lol

[south meadow]

convert them?

[barren tusk]

anyway i cooked

[barren tusk]

i was using as a defend of my island

[fathom hull]

mongol tactics

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-march-1945-soviet-union-ussr-russia-gif-641872874588843516

[narrow thunder]

now what?

[barren tusk]

all for tannu tuva

[narrow thunder]

WW2 best ending

[barren tusk]

my game is always defeating a mjor faction in the peace conference like i won't play again the game so i do a funny peace conference

[narrow thunder]

Do a Bulgaria to Balkan federation run next

[barren tusk]

yesterday i did this.

like funny things

[narrow thunder]

Did u use commands?

[barren tusk]

no, just real

[narrow thunder]

How did u give land to tannu Tuva as uk?

[barren tusk]

because CCCP was helping me so

we were allies

[narrow thunder]

Ah ok

[barren tusk]

bad ending as a consequence of giving all for tannu tuva i couldn't put a foot in their territory for spain so i did a naval invasion in portugal AJAJA

[barren tusk]

bulgaria at the beggining i don't understand

there are 4 parties and i need to increase/decrease

sucks

[narrow thunder]

Nah not rlly

Just bolster the zveno for good generals/ army chief

Then integrate broad socialists

That’s literally it

You just have to click a few decisions over and over

[barren tusk]

i know but if i wanna go monarchist i don't know which should i support and who should i decrease

[narrow thunder]

the focuses will tell you everything

the factions themsleves dont give gou any modifiers

its just for the sake of unlocking focuses

[weary river]

lore accurate tannu tuva

[limpid shale]

@untold arrow

[floral anvil]

Dev diary today?????

[hollow coral]

what made you think that

[floral anvil]

Hopes and prayers

[hollow coral]

its probably going to get announced february

[glossy finch]

What could a potential Africa dlc bring?

[hollow coral]

Probably adding more colonies

And releasing egypt and morocco and others

[cobalt jay]

I doubt it because lag

[hollow coral]

At some point paradox will have to do something about it if they want to keep updating the game

I doubt hoi5 is coming out soon

[cobalt jay]

The thing is there are infinitely more important countries than Africa especially with the precedent set by Gotterdammerung

[hollow coral]

Yes

Asia especially

It was the second largest front yet it has barely any content

If you count europe as a front as a whole

[cobalt jay]

So you will have Asia rework which will necessitate an Allies rework which means Comintern will need a rework which means Axis will once again need rework

[hollow coral]

What

Nsb should be the standard honedtly

I dont think having every tree be gotterdamurung level is very ethical

[cobalt jay]

Africa would get a content pack at best

The problem is now that you have Aussa, Congo, Ethiopia, and South Africa, there isn't much unique content left for Africa

[hollow coral]

There isnt much to begin with

I think adding aussa was unecessary

But devs could atleast add egypt, morocco and tunisia

Bare minimum egypt

[thick edge]

Egypt would be nice

[cobalt jay]

Egypt is actually the hardest to add if we go historically

[thick edge]

How?

[cobalt jay]

Because your country would be split in half

[thick edge]

Wdym

[hollow coral]

The anglo Egypt sudan condominium was de facto british

[cobalt jay]

UK would never give up the Suez Canal peacefully

[hollow coral]

If thats what you mean

[thick edge]

Ohhh

Not that

Egypt owns Egypt

[hollow coral]

Is that rlly a problem of them adding it though?

[thick edge]

Uk owns suez

[hollow coral]

Egypt wss a protectorate during ww2 so basically a puppet

[thick edge]

Egypt should 100% be an Liberian puppet

[cobalt jay]

Yes because with the current Hoi IV engine logic who owns the bordering tiles owns the canal, so you will always have a piece of the UK including a port in your land

[hollow coral]

💪😤fr

[hollow coral]

What

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

Whoever owns the tiles on both sides of a canal owns the canal

[hollow coral]

Because the canal is one state

[cobalt jay]

Yes

[hollow coral]

I still dont see how its a problem of adding egypt

[cobalt jay]

If we go historical, the UK would never give up the canal peacefully

[thick edge]

The canal is 4 states, sues down middle right?

[hollow coral]

So how does that effect egypt not being added

Im confused😅

[cobalt jay]

Basically unless you have the UK go the decolonization route, you will make it so Egypt will have to fight the Allies at some point

[hollow coral]

Or hear me out you dont need to get the suez all the time?

I dont know how that would ruin the gameplay of egypt

[thick edge]

I feel like there could be a focus for seizing control of the suez

Like get enough army

[hollow coral]

A historical stuff can happen in historical

You can go fascist hungary and demand all the land you want and get it

[cobalt jay]

The thing is that they tried that historically and the British/French and Israelis invaded for that

[hollow coral]

Ok

[thick edge]

There could be like a small war, that ends after enough colonies taken, like take Syria if allies, push to Ethiopia

[hollow coral]

God forbid a border conflict

[thick edge]

Instead of taking London

[thick edge]

Or this

[hollow coral]

I think argentina can do something like peace out with uk if they take falkands

[thick edge]

Yeah

[cobalt jay]

The problem is with Hoi IV, UK will instantly call all

[thick edge]

There is prob some way to code that in so they don’t

[hollow coral]

Im sure paradox will think of something around this

[thick edge]

Yea

Egypt sounds like a fun and good idea

[cobalt jay]

No, you can see it in Congo

[thick edge]

I never touched Congo so I didn’t see it

[cobalt jay]

If you do your civil war after WW2 starts, the other side calls in the entire Allies

[hollow coral]

Ive only played congo once and it was to get the achievement so i would never play again

[hollow coral]

Fair enough

That is a bit of a problem

[cobalt jay]

The problem here is that if the UK calls all in this scenario it will have enough "superiority" especially if the US is in the Allies that the AI will never accept peace

[hollow coral]

But most people i think snag some focuses before they are locked out and do the civil war before belgium gets declared

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Congo was disappointing. I really liked the idea of a shared tree though.

[thick edge]

I don’t have enough focus to watch a 3 hour board game

[fresh cedar]

I was just gonna let it go while I worked

[thick edge]

Either board game or school work

[fresh cedar]

What other countries would work well with a shared focus tree? British puppets?

[thick edge]

Prob

Soviet SSR’s?

[fresh cedar]

Bet India will have some in GOE

[fresh cedar]

I was thinking that too

Problem with the Congo is like half it’s focuses disappear when you go indepdent

And you’re surrounded completely by strong nations so can’t really expand

SAF/ Ethiopia kinda better positioned imo bc have less debuffs and less tiles to defend

[cobalt jay]

Nah too many of them

[fresh cedar]

Doesn’t Scandinavia get a shared tree with like 5 countries?

[cobalt jay]

Yeah, it would have to be like that

[fresh cedar]

I mean like the faction ones.

Not sure what you’d call the Belgian one

I’m kinda surprised Egypt isn’t a thing to be completely honest. But maybe North Africa will be its own DLC

[dense veldt]

the new board game video is 3+ hours long 💀

can't wait for people to have literal physical fights over the hoi boardgame

[cobalt jay]

Independent Egypt would screw the UK

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it would have to be a puppet

But irl it genuinely was free

[cobalt jay]

Even then it would screw UK over

[fresh cedar]

I mean the UK’s other puppets already screw it over from time to time

[cobalt jay]

Egypt would hurt the most because they would take Aswan

So even a puppet Egypt would massively weaken the UK

[fresh cedar]

Could just do like what the US has with the Panama Canal. And have the Suez be a better modeled little UK owned territory

Bc that’s basically what it was

[cobalt jay]

Aswan is worse

[fresh cedar]

How?

[cobalt jay]

Because Aswan is UK's only dam

[fresh cedar]

Are Dams that worth?

In game

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

Since Dams are the only thing in the game that accelerates facility construction

[fresh cedar]

I would never in a million years build a facility in Egypt as the UK

Way too sketchy 😂

But would be cool from a RP perspective

[cobalt jay]

Its the meta MP spot

[fresh cedar]

Fair, was looking at it from a SP perspective

Dams probably only good in MP though

[cobalt jay]

Remember most MP games are over in 43

[fresh cedar]

True, need that early boost

I sorta figured facilities wouldn’t get used in MP

[cobalt jay]

Nah they are game deciding

[late trench]

Nope wasnt

[fresh cedar]

I mean that it wasn’t completely integrated into the UK as represented in game

Would be like a puppet

[late trench]

Yea ofx

[fresh cedar]

Though Suez would be UK owned

[late trench]

The UK wasnt allowed to have troops in Egypt which is interesting

[fresh cedar]

Feel like the only way it could be implemented is if it was free or if you were able to give units military access to specific areas

When the game was made they didn’t really have the ability to do that so just didn’t have it

[stable tusk]

After 1922 Egypt was considered nominally independent from the UK with the British even recognising their independence, but the UK still had control over the Suez

[fresh cedar]

And during the Second World War UK effectively had military access

1939-1945

[late trench]

The UK essentially directly owned Suez

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah they would’ve legit occupied it if it were in game

Like the Panama Canal

[late trench]

How would Egypt itself function ingame tho?

[fresh cedar]

Neutral for the most part unless alt history

[late trench]

I mean as a subject

They had foreign policy under british control right?

[fresh cedar]

Difficult to implement.

They were neutral but let the UK fight in their lands

I’d say they probably would have to remain neutral on historical and cede western egypt to the UK to allow for the North African campaign. If allies win in that area (which they didn’t historically) then they declare on Egypt

If UK win El Alamein and pushes through North Africa then it never joined the war

So like pretty much if axis occupy entire state of northwestern Egypt, then they get war goal for free. If not then never get war goal unless justified which ai wouldn’t

[late trench]

I think it'd work better just to call them into the war

[fresh cedar]

Then got army spam would be pretty ahistorical

I think on historical it would have to go the way I said or wouldn’t be accurate

[late trench]

Italy had plans and did not care about a line the egyptians said not to cross

[fresh cedar]

Right, but to the Egyptians since it never happened they never really joined

That’s why I’m like if Italy/germany successful enough, then it does become their problem

If not then not

[late trench]

What abt getting called in but with a thing that makes the AI not care about fighting unless it threatens their cities

[fresh cedar]

Seems harder to script

[late trench]

Also condomoniums are hard to deal with

[fresh cedar]

El Alamein really decided their entry tbh

[late trench]

Sudan specifically

I think its honestly just best to leave them the way they are

[fresh cedar]

Not existing?

Oh man but Egypt could be such a cool nation to play

Alt history Egypt would go hard

[late trench]

Why is that word censored btw

[fresh cedar]

Devs don’t like the mention of it and seem it irrelevant to the game. Even talking about it in passing like this warrants a harsh response from them

I found out the hard way

[late trench]

So paradox can keep pretending it doesnt exist?

[fresh cedar]

I’m just gonna pass on that convo lol. Been down it before don’t want the clapback again

[late trench]

Probably smart tho alternative is much worse

Dont want a certain group to have too much fun ingame

But yea how would Sudan function ingame?

A puppet of a puppet maybe?

[fresh cedar]

Feel like just remain annexed

Problem is if you release too many countries the game gets laggy and kinda hurts countries

Egypt is sorta unique because its importance to the war bc location

[late trench]

thats fair but they really didnt do anything

[fresh cedar]

Kinda how I feel about South American countries and some others but they exist so I’m like why not

[late trench]

thing is tho its functionally the same if Egypt is puppet or direct rule

well not 100% the same but very similar

only difference would be how the 2 factories there are divided and whether or not the UK can move troops into egypt pre-war

honestly ive been waiting for middle east to get focus trees

a lot of them were involved

[stable tusk]

Well Iraq is gonna get a tree
Other than that you're gonna have to wait

[late trench]

also Afghanistan and Iran

[stable tusk]

They aren't Middle East, especially Afghanistan
If you call an Afghan Middle Eastern they'd stab you

[late trench]

iran is middle east but not arab

afghan is central asia tho but theyre in the same group bc central asia doesnt exist in hoi4

[stable tusk]

Afghanistan is more South Asia imo

[fresh cedar]

Gets more factories via focuses. Actually can make a decent little army

[late trench]

south asia imo is just the ingame british raj without burma

afghanistan is actuially sorta in a limbo between regions

theyre called middle-eastern, south-asian and central-asian in different contexts

[late trench]

i dont remember the context but when i called a pakistani middle eastern he got offended

kyrgyz is absolutely not middle east also

[fresh cedar]

Not everyone understands maps or regions. As an American I can say we get confused with geography all the time

[stable tusk]

Turkey, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the other stans being in ME will lead to someone getting killed

[late trench]

libya and afghan arent

if you include them you have a very broad definition

egypt yes

iran yes

[fresh cedar]

Really sort of an open ended thing

[late trench]

the caucasian states maybe

[fresh cedar]

Some deem it as a small area, others not

[late trench]

but all the stan countries are central asian exept paki

[fresh cedar]

Depends on which country you ask and when

[stable tusk]

Imo this is the Middle East

?

[fresh cedar]

Not having Kurdish Turkey is ingenuine imo

[late trench]

i'd include turkey, cyprus and caucasia but yea you have the least offensive definition

noone would be offended to not be considered middle eastern

[stable tusk]

And this would be South Asia

[fresh cedar]

That’s the thing, you can both be right.

And in many cases regions can overlap

[late trench]

i agree with his actually its got nothing that could be said to be wrong

[late trench]

i think afghan is culturally more central asian and you could include burma in some contexts

[fresh cedar]

I’m not saying it is. Just kind of an open concept. Middleast is badly defined

[fresh cedar]

Even depends on the different ethnic groups there

[late trench]

youre american right?

[fresh cedar]

Since it’s a mix of continents

[fresh cedar]

Yes, but studied history and geography pretty extensively in college and as a hobby

[late trench]

americans probably are more likely to say afghan is middle east due to the wars in the region

[stable tusk]

Central Asia is more Turkic with Afghanistan being mainly Indo Iranian but I can see your reasoning

[fresh cedar]

I think we can all agree some nations are middleast to all. Others are selective

[late trench]

central asia has an independence streak only broken by communists and was not british exept maybe for a couple years

[fresh cedar]

Some would include parts of eastern Libya, others Turkey, others Pakistan, some the steppe

[late trench]

south asia is only culturally distinguished by being former british colonies

[stable tusk]

Ok yeah you take that back

[fresh cedar]

Uhhh

[late trench]

religiously divided

culturally diverse

nvm i forgot about language

they all speak hindustani (exept bengal and burma)

[fresh cedar]

France also influenced southern India

[late trench]

only briefly afaik (exept pondicherry)

im probably wrong tho lemme google

[fresh cedar]

French East India 1664-1794

With its main influence

If you consider how that was early into Englands influence too

They were quite transformative

[late trench]

they only held like 3 cities

pondicherry until probably the 60s or 70s

and the others lost in the 1700s or 1800s

[fresh cedar]

French, Dutch and Portugal kinda influenced the south whereas England the north

I’m saying they got the foothold in

[late trench]

england or the others?

[fresh cedar]

Others in the south

[late trench]

yea

they all had a good chance of getting india

[fresh cedar]

And that’s ignoring the actual different array of polities that ruled in either

[late trench]

well exept for the fact that the UK was the richest county in the world

[late trench]

they werent european so they dont matter /s

[fresh cedar]

Will matter in GOE 😏

[late trench]

theyre all british subjects so now they matter even less

[fresh cedar]

Honestly GOE will really hurt UK on ahistorical

[late trench]

tbh hoi4 india is a bit underpowered

[fresh cedar]

Super underpowered

Even if you correct the manpower issues

Hope it gets an economic facelift

[late trench]

but if the germans get a foothold it's horrible for britain

[floral anvil]

Costa Rica focus tree when? 😫😫

[edgy dagger]

When we get tannu tuva

[rocky oasis]

Place your bets on how many monarchist paths there will be in GoE.

[polar jasper]

Well, the princely states in India probably have a few hundred monarchs there

[hollow coral]

atleast 6 lol

[rocky oasis]

Excited for the Bourbon-Bhopal path

[hollow coral]

frfr

salvador

III

[rocky oasis]

At least 3 monarchs for Iran. Reza Shah Pahlavi, Mohammad Reza Shah, and Qajar restoration. Probably also going to have Hitler in disguise going by the name Darius IV.

[hollow coral]

maybe crowning one of his daughters? reza shah i mean

i hope once france gets a rework the bourbon path could be similiar to austria and hungary where you can restore monarchs in places like spain and sicily

[rocky oasis]

I didn’t even think about that.

[hollow coral]

more women in hoi4

[rocky oasis]

Steam page mentions Princely States for India. So, are we thinking something similar to the Congolese monarchs or what?

[hollow coral]

i think they will do something similiar to poland and congo

but probably more monarchs

and hopefully larger paths

[rocky oasis]

At least 12

lol

[hollow coral]

and one of them got to be bourbon path

maybe even nepalese and bhutan monarchs

i cant wait for bangladesh to finally get portraits and not east asian portraits

or maybe a princely council

[trim quartz]

Hashemite Iraq, Reza Shah Iran, Afghanistan, perhaps some schizo paths for India, exiled Edward VIII, Mughal Empire, princely states, at least 6

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-chat-dead-chat-gif-11458026997495797759

[rocky oasis]

Hashemite Iraq will probably be straight forward. Probably will have an event about whether or not Ghazi gets into/survives the car crash. So probably 2 for Iraq, but they will share the same tree. Iran will probably have at least 3 monarch options, 2 Pahlavi and probably a Qajar restoration, not sure about Afganistan, and for India the consensus seems to be that something similar to the Congo monarchs will happen, but who really knows. We will meme the Bourbon-Bhopal path into existence.

[fresh cedar]

Congo Monarchist’s were such a let down. I went from looking forward to playing the Congo the most to disliking it the most

But if GOE is anything like ToA then I’m hyped

[fading walrus]

uh Burma was part of the RAJ

[fading walrus]

I just wanna play Iran so I can survive a joint Soviet, British invasion

[stable tusk]

Yeah until 1937

[fading walrus]

ah didn't know that

thanks for correcting me

[stable tusk]

Np

[hollow coral]

I think congos monarchist was a subpar because they didnt know what to do with congo specifically since they dont have much expansion options

[hollow coral]

I feel like burma may get some portraits and maybe get an rvnt of the establishment of british burma but idk about content

[fresh cedar]

Would be fun

[fresh cedar]

Should’ve let them expand through sparking revolutions easier.

[tacit sequoia]

Question, I seen a video that was talking about “hoi4 predicting the future”, did the devs do anything strange for this?

https://youtu.be/4R-CYG06fLo?si=ca-8bUmVrTvLGBP_

[tacit sequoia]

Sorry if it breaks any server rules but I’m curious af

[hollow coral]

You cannot be serious my brother

[trim quartz]

It’s a joke

[fading walrus]

Its not easy expanding into Africa as a independent African nation in the 1930's and 1940's

though I cannot say the same for Morocoo in my France rework mod

because you can restore Al Andlusia

[hollow coral]

morocco would be an interesting country to play

[fading walrus]

hence why I'm going to make it a French puppet state in my mod (you can break free)

[cobalt jay]

You run into the same problem as Congo

[fading walrus]

one word: Spain

[hollow coral]

Spain should be easy to take down

They hold all your cores and they are pretty weak after the civil war

[fading walrus]

Congo is surrounded by European colonial holdings

[hollow coral]

True

Compared to congo you have more expansion options without getting into a major war

[cobalt jay]

Spanish civil war doesn't end until like 38 tho sometimes 39

[hollow coral]

More time to prepare

[fading walrus]

You get cores on all of Spain, Sicily, Sardinia, Corisca, the Maghreb

if you go down the Al Andalusia route as Morocco

[hollow coral]

Idk how accurate this map is

[fading walrus]

first image is the Umayyad Caliphiate

its whole empire was this

[hollow coral]

Easy way to segway from andalus to ummayad

[fading walrus]

that would be the final formable

[hollow coral]

Belgium does that

[fading walrus]

it should just be called the Calphiate though

[hollow coral]

Fair

[fading walrus]

not Umayyad btw because that was a family that is long gone by 1936

[harsh hull]

Man, imagine being the Umayyads and dropping the ball that hard

[hushed shuttle]

The one game where you forget to do port guards is as Mittleafrika (if they only lose their capital they instantly die)

[vagrant widget]

I hope they make a new Mesopotamia

[plucky siren]

how i get senor hitler acheivmeent in this new upadte

[cobalt jay]

Same way

[solid gyro]

You need to make sure he survives the german civil war and that he makes it to argentina after that you need to do some decisions i think once he arrives or survives

[plucky siren]

i did that but he didnt came

[solid gyro]

Did the event say The H-man was found dead in the bunker?

[plucky siren]

no

i think new update f this up

[solid gyro]

Nope i think they only made it harder to get i think

[stable tusk]

Do you have TOA? It's guaranteed to happen with TOA

[plucky siren]

whats tao

[solid gyro]

Trial of alligance

[plucky siren]

dlc?

[solid gyro]

Yes

[plucky siren]

i play no dlc

[solid gyro]

Its a south america dlc

[solid gyro]

Then you wont get it so easily you need it do work easier

[plucky siren]

but what do i have to do it just didnt work

do i need dlc just to get it

[solid gyro]

Yes with the dlc its easier since you get the focuses for it but without it then your chances are pretty much 0

[plucky siren]

but why

[solid gyro]

No idea tbh, my guess would be the new mechanics which every dlc brings in it etc which in turn needs the dlcs to work

[fallen zenith]

The senor hitler path is part of TOA so its impossible to do the achievement without

[fresh cedar]

I’ve done it with the new update

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure it needs the DLC

Like it’s legit a DLC achievement

[solid gyro]

Oh Didnt know that i thought you can get it aswell without it, good to know

[fresh cedar]

@pseudo wing Hey Chak, do you know if things will pick-up in February development wise? I imagine things are slow in January as everyone gets back

[rocky oasis]

The Devs yearn for the mines.

[tacit sequoia]

I hope we get news about GYoE soon

[fresh cedar]

I wish

[pseudo wing]

I seem to have missed this, my bad, and I know I say it a lot but soon™

I can't guarantee anything but we are not slacking out here, gears are turnin'

[fresh cedar]

That’s good to hear. I always worry that Scandinavian companies are out of commission for a few months. 😂

Comparable to a ship being in for repairs

[pseudo wing]

nah, everyone's mostly back in already, we out here working (colloquial 'we', I ain't sure if I count since I never left but also am in Quebec lmao)

[fresh cedar]

More of a frontlines with customers sort of work I get ya

[thick edge]

I should send a letter to chaks mailbox saying “when Luxembourg tree”

[pseudo wing]

if you manage to find my actual address I would be concerned

[thick edge]

How many people live in Quebec

Only need a few million letters

[pseudo wing]

roughly 8.18 million

[thick edge]

Let’s make 8.18m letters

@stable tusk

Wanna help

[cobalt jay]

Easy we just write the letter in only English

[thick edge]

Let’s hack into the Canadian government

Get that phone alert system

Change it to Luxembourg

Activate

[fresh cedar]

Do they ever fly you out to Sweden?

[pseudo wing]

They could but I havent accepted as of yet, a lot of issues with the process for me rn (not on their side, on the qc side)

i've had the kind offer, but i am more of a hermit who doesnt travel well aha

[thick edge]

Do u have a pet moose

[crisp rivet]

No. I’ll be asking them for Ireland tree

[fresh cedar]

I’ve never left the US so I can relate

[crisp rivet]

I want Celtic union!

[pseudo wing]

how do you think i get to the grocery store?

[pseudo wing]

I've never left my province, its on the list to do though

I want to go visit Taiwan relatively soon, but I need to learn more mandarin first

[thick edge]

2 moose

They pull a sled

[crisp rivet]

Do you feed it other Canadians?

[fresh cedar]

Honestly though a lot of people in Taiwan speak good English

[pseudo wing]

only the ones who don't pay the Maple Syrup tithe

[thick edge]

Meese

[crisp rivet]

Ah

[fresh cedar]

I dated a Taiwanese girl and legit everyone she ever introduced to me spoke great English

[pseudo wing]

My current spouse is from Taiwan, is why I am learning Mandarin so I can speak with their Mother who doesn't speak it very well

[fresh cedar]

Nice! Are you going to visit Taipei when there?

[fresh cedar]

That’s super dedication to learn mandarin

[pseudo wing]

no idea, I am just scared of a lot of the food since I am very picky lmao

and yeah, it also helps if I can learn it for work here and be able to see what our mandarin speaking audience is talking about, so its a win win for me

[fresh cedar]

Their food is amazing but I imagine to a picky eater it could be very daunting. I used to just eat chicken nuggets but have branched out to eat everything since. But Taiwan has such a diverse set of food 😂

[fresh cedar]

Turning into a universal translator

[thick edge]

Just choke the food down

How good are u at mandarin?

[pseudo wing]

I have an issue with fish specifically (used to work in a fish processing plant so its a hard no from me lmao) and unfortunately they really like it so I'm a tiny bit limited

[crisp rivet]

[fresh cedar]

Don’t they do a lot of poultry too? I’m not the biggest fish fan either tbh

[crisp rivet]

This is great entertainment to distract my from the pain of “30 minutes in Hel”

[pseudo wing]

very basic

[thick edge]

lol

Same for me in the other language I’m learning

Just know a few words

[pseudo wing]

they do, but a lot oft heir food uses fish sauce in the marinades and stuff so im a bit 'off' on it haha

[thick edge]

Soon I will need to know how to say “please spare my life “ in German

[crisp rivet]

Ha ha ha

Mine was 5 weeks ago

Oh sheet, he was kidnapped

[thick edge]

I’m stuck in class till like 11:20

Fun

[crisp rivet]

Try 11:17, but you need to do other class homework but you no have time

Could never be me

[thick edge]

I mean

Could

But idk how to put more into my project

[crisp rivet]

I’m to “I am”

[thick edge]

It’s not an essay

Science

Carbon cycle

Smth like that

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah I forgot that’s like a base for everything there

[safe plover]

Bitte lass mich in den Himmel kommen:-)

[thick edge]

Try our signature dish which is fish layered in a nice fish sauce with a light fish cover

[fresh cedar]

Mein handy

[thick edge]

And a dish of fish flavoured rice

[fresh cedar]

It’s like all the stages of a fish breaking down into its root chemicals

[stable tusk]

Whar

[thick edge]

We need to

Make 8.18 million letters

Saying

When Luxembourg tree

And put them

In every Quebec mailbox

To find Chak

[stable tusk]

You know we could simplify it by only writing letters to the Greater Montreal Area because Chak only lives an hour from the city

[thick edge]

Genius

[crisp rivet]

And in an Ireland tree request

[fading walrus]

Czech focus tree request from me

Like a option to unite the western slavs

[thick edge]

Is it just me

Or is the liberation of Paris

The only colored event photo

[polar jasper]

It might be

[harsh hull]

Silesia focus tree

[thick edge]

No

[harsh hull]

Make the 4th Silesian Uprising a guaranteed thing 70 days after the GCW fires

Let it be able to core Czechoslovakia, Poland, and Germany

Peace in the world at last

[wicked gulch]

Who do you think you are, young commander?

[harsh hull]

Genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist

[wicked gulch]

Awfully ambitious for a pathetic excuse of a leader, I scoff at your territorial ambitions! I laugh at your ignorance of the geopolitical and historical complexity of European affairs, for indeed, you SPIT on the beautiful page that crafted Central European history, notably that of which crafted the mighty land of the Zweiter Reich! You’re no better than the fascists that subjugated the German peoples to expansionist propaganda! A nation is built by the will and strength of its diverse peoples, all united under one language and broader identity, it has nothing to do with YOU CZECHS!!! RAHHHHHH!!!!!!

[harsh hull]

First of all, I ain't reading all that
Secondly, I cringed hard

[wicked gulch]

What is there to cringe of, when the person delivering you such a message is speaking of utmost sincerity, from the deepest most harsh yet pain-ridden parts of the heart, for it is from the brain where ideas emanate, but it is from the heart, although, where the truth originates…

You show no seriousness in such an intellectual battle for the legitimacy of your territorial claims. A typical example of a soulless politician who builds hordes to pillage and destroy all which he considers as “his nation’s” land.
Core Germany? For “peace at last”?
DESPICABLE!

I say, NEVER!

[dim saffron]

i agree with your display name very valid

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[plucky crag]

when will graveyard of the empires get released? Q1 ends in March

[fading walrus]

probably in March

[harsh hull]

The first dev diary for Trial of Allegiance was January 25 last year and a March 7 release

They haven't announed anything yet, so I assume we'll start seeing things in early February, and get a release somewhere mid-March at the earliest

[wicked gulch]

Right???

[tacit sequoia]

Maybe it’ll be a Jan 22nd first dev diary

Though I wonder if it’ll be the two dev diaries per week like they did with gotterdammerung

[woeful oasis]

Hopefully for Afghanistan there will be content/interactions with the Afghan Royal Army

[hard smelt]

not even uniforms :/

[plucky crag]

ok thanks

[trim quartz]

It's coming out in the first financial quarter of this year, so it's super close

[robust haven]

If an Italian general/admiral was added to the title cover, who would it be

[hollow coral]

Giovanni messe

I think its his name

[shy citrus]

hello

[subtle sable]

hello

[hot trout]

hello

[whole arch]

hello

[edgy plank]

hello

[trim quartz]

Italo Balbo

Or Rodolfo Graziani

[frozen marsh]

japan new focus treeee pls

[polar jasper]

Pacific War countries all need reworks

[frozen marsh]

whats the next rework gonna be?

[cobalt jay]

Probably either Asia or Commonwealth

[solid gyro]

I would hope its a asia+Japan rework after GOE they really need it aswell

[frozen marsh]

whats GOe

[solid gyro]

Graveyards of empires which will come out this year its a country pack which gives trees to iran,iraq,afghanistan and india

[frozen marsh]

oh

[thick edge]

we need to fix the AI japanese democratic civil war

they put like a third of their divs on islands

[harsh hull]

Well yeah

What if the other side naval invades them

That's how they get you

[trim quartz]

Playing monarchist Greece like usual, just realised shouldn't there be no other parties? The pie chart shows 35% democratic support, but with the parliemtn dissloved it should be 100% non aligned no?

[frank dust]

support does not equal legality

[hollow coral]

You ban political parties and they will just poof off the chart

[stable mica]

When can we expect news about the next DLC "Graveyard of Empires"? 😊

[cobalt jay]

Five days based off TOA

[bright yoke]

is hoi4 worth 41 dollars

[thick edge]

Wait for a sale

[rocky oasis]

Soon™️

[solid gyro]

country packs are usually revealed a week before release, so I assume some time in march

[rocky oasis]

The first dev diary of last country pack was on January 25th and came out on March 3rd, so presumably we are looking at something similar in terms of timeframe.

[solid gyro]

oh well

just shows i really didnt give af about it lol

when can we have a Götterdämmerung on sale 😭 🙏

[stable tusk]

When GoE comes out ig

[solid gyro]

man 😭

[rugged gazelle]

When should arrive the next dlc? February? 1Q means before march, no?

[cobalt jay]

TOA dropped at the start of March so probably sometime in March

[rocky oasis]

Early March going by the last Country Pack

[stable tusk]

Prob March tbh
Maybe earlier idk

[cobalt jay]

Can't be earlier we would have dev diaries by now if it was February

[midnight ginkgo]

There will be a new DLC??

Holy shit being back in the non-digital-age changed everything

[pallid hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[fresh cedar]

I’d guess March too. February will probably start Dev diaries

[crisp rivet]

There better not be a thing where both uk and USSR invade Iran AND have an achievement where you have to survive that war.

But, knowing the devs

It’s gonna happen

[mental onyx]

WAR EFFORT PATCH

[pseudo wing]

I did say soon™

[mental onyx]

the hell, did the website crash?

it's fine now nevermind

[pseudo wing]

sometimes it doesnt update when I move it from drafts

dw about it

[harsh hull]

- Added a decision for the Siberian formable to integrate Manchuria.

Tannu gang is so back

[mental onyx]

13th century bros are so back

[crisp rivet]

I should not have gave them that idea

[mental onyx]

this is where it really matters

[thick edge]

Real

[crisp rivet]

Most important thing in the patch

[chrome vortex]

is there going to be a board game?

[nocturne sentinel]

yea

they announced it like a month ago

on the 23rd of january you can buy it, I think

[fresh cedar]

These are the big issues

[harsh hull]

You ever try playing Red Germany for 23 minutes before realizing you don't have Götterdämmerung active?

Not a great feeling

[buoyant ore]

yukon is truly the best state

it needs more buffs

[thick edge]

How do u even accidentally do that

[harsh hull]

Step 1: Turn a DLC off to test something
Step 2: Forget to turn it back on

[pallid hollow]

Yeah I actually did that exact thing last week 😅

[fresh cedar]

Thank you for the war effort patch!

Really like the addition and tweaking of formables with the patches

[thick edge]

The change in Yukon Territory will change the game

[fresh cedar]

Hope Africa and other parts of the world get more formables.

[thick edge]

Does region population even change

Like hear me out, infrastructure should increase that population growth

More factories in that state

Also less population

Since factories make pollution

And pollution bad

[coral drift]

Would love to see the non-WuW side of the German focus tree implementing the newly-added focus icons.

[crisp rivet]

Yeet the pollution out of da equation

Then we got a deal

[zenith sentinel]

Buffing the INFANTRY TANK DESIGNER (easily the best tank mio) is a wild one

[safe plover]

where tf is my form germany button?

[harsh hull]

Since the Siberia formable includes Manchuria now, why can't Austria-Hungary integrate, or even get a claim on, Krakow?

We've gotta improve that Danubian grind

[nocturne sentinel]

What mod is this? I have seen it a hundred times still didnt figure it out

(the colour one)

[fresh cedar]

I don’t like the idea of pollution in the game lol

If it existed I imagine nuclear strikes would max that stat

I think rather states should have “devastation” like planets in stellaris

That slowly gets worse during wars In it

[nocturne sentinel]

wouldnt say pollution... more like some random dust falling from the sky and giving you cancer 🥰

[fresh cedar]

Fallout Lowkey exists

[nocturne sentinel]

yeah

[knotty pulsar]

it would be weird cause people didnt really knew much or cared about the dangers of industrial pollution in the era

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

Devastation has more of a place just bc it’s already kinda exists especially with the new heavy arty.

[safe plover]

fps map

[nocturne sentinel]

oh thanks

[thick edge]

Erm

Belgium?

Italy?

[knotty pulsar]

it could be a potential dlc that would make strat bombers actually useful

[fresh cedar]

I argue devastation should not only be a DLC. But also add firebombing raids which further debuff a state so if you’re endgame can do that instead of nukes

[thick edge]

Are there state modifiers for certain tile?

Or only provinces

[fresh cedar]

Technically Forts

[thick edge]

What if like

Every 5 battles

Per tile

Maybe 3

On the defense

Small modifier

War torn

[knotty pulsar]

thats like the only major part of ww2 that is still missing so i dont really know what else they will make for future dlcs

[thick edge]

-construction speed for province

Supply

Railway

Speed

Etc

[safe plover]

wdym

[fresh cedar]

Would like to see industrial heartlands that focus on key industries so bombing can target key places but also they can be defended heavier

[knotty pulsar]

i dont think they would ever add anything that complex

probably like bomb smth -modifier for 1 year and done

[thick edge]

Nvm

Though about it

Too small

For a single tile

[fresh cedar]

Would just be built like a facility, buff overall production in something. If normal, gives buff, if bombed gives debuff. Risk V Reward. Can choose not to or hyper focus

Just wish MIO’s did something more or were able to be targeted

[rugged gazelle]

Do you think the new dlc will be a meme or a good dlc? I mean, some pathes of other dlcs are ridicoulus like Congo or even Belgium which is barebones, short and boring

[thick edge]

I feel like both

[rugged gazelle]

Götterdammerun has good german and hungarian pathes, ok austrian path, but the others are 🤮

[maiden canyon]

next dlc : mars

[knotty pulsar]

i mean austria not having that many good paths is kind of understandable

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully it’s like Trial of Allegiance which in my opinion was one of the most fun DLC ever released and I’ve played since the game came out

[cobalt jay]

Poor Japan if that happens

[fresh cedar]

Why?

Japan would become OP with that format

[cobalt jay]

Looking at TOA, Raj is going to get bloat IC and probably god tier mountaineers and just one shot Japan

[fresh cedar]

Feel like all they’d have to do is make such buffs temporary or locked to cores

[fresh cedar]

It’ll start off OP and get edited to a reasonable amount

Feel like India will take a while to ramp up though

Could fix that by giving it great core buffs but mediocre noncore attack buffs

Japan still has that 10% attack buff 😮‍💨

[cobalt jay]

The thing is even a reasonable increase to the current industry is going to be devastating for Japan

[fresh cedar]

As long as they don’t flood China should be fine

[cobalt jay]

I can already get like 4 full armies of 16w inf with a fifth in training by Jan 41

[fresh cedar]

As the country with the most starting manpower 😮‍💨

[cobalt jay]

The main issue is guns

[fresh cedar]

Would still be hampered by the agrarian focus and probably is gonna get more debuffs you have to correct

Which the AI is notoriously bad at fixing

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it’ll only be an issue if a player is the Raj. Which a good player can succeed as any country

[fading walrus]

I knew Belgium and the Congo were going to suck

because Belgium has had no independent history before 1831

they were part of another empire like the Dutch, Spanish

Burgundians

Romans as well

oh and the Frankish Empire

[stable tusk]

And it would be pretty difficult to make the Congo fun like ever

[south meadow]

burgundians?

tno reference??

[fading walrus]

no Kingdom of Burgundy

[stable tusk]

NO BACK TO THE TNO BASEMENT WITH YOU

[solid gyro]

poopenfarten mentioned!!

[fading walrus]

this mess right here

[south meadow]

looks like tno reference

[stable tusk]

I told you once already BACK TO THE BASEMENT

[fading walrus]

TNO really annoys me

Burgundy was a Kingdom in the 1400s

[stable tusk]

It's visual novel, the Hoi mod

[fading walrus]

before it got partioned by France and the Hapsburgs after the King died in battle

Charles the bold BTW

[south meadow]

erm actually war in russia takes less longer than in kaiserreich/redux

[stable tusk]

Ok the war in russia is actual content, the rest is just reading
Especially since they're removing the German Civil War

[fading walrus]

also Burgundy is a playable nation in EU4

they are pretty lackluster

I would recommened playing them with the Europa expanded mod

if anyone plays that game that is

alright time for an ubscure nation

It was the last hold out of the Western Roman Empire from 476 to 486 AD

[south meadow]

heydrich war against burgundy

[fading walrus]

Kingdom of Soissons

[stable tusk]

Only happens once a hundred playthroughs

[fading walrus]

it got conquered by Clovis I who was king of the Franks

in 486

Aegidius was the founder of the Kingdom and a ally of the last compotent Roman General Aeitus, and the last compotent Western Roman Emperor Majorian

when Aegidus died in 463 his son Sygarius took command

[hollow coral]

the fact they didnt implement a proper monarchist path for belgium shows that lmao

[obtuse dragon]

Hey is there a way to get the newest update to show up for some reason its not showing up on my computer

[hollow coral]

how is the update not showing?

could you explain a bit more

[obtuse dragon]

Like on the steam library It just lets me launch the game but I can see Im not on the next update

[hollow coral]

did it show it was updating?

[hazy basalt]

Austrian belguim count

[obtuse dragon]

It did while I updated it originally but than it cancelled so I restarted steam but now it’s not showing

[trim quartz]

I hope they update his portrait in GOE

[mental onyx]

did the boardgame giveaway already end?

[hollow coral]

He looks like slenderman lmao

[stable tusk]

I mean, that's exactly how he looked like irl

[hollow coral]

Current portrait looks like it has less pixels ngl

[trim quartz]

If you look at the regular photos of him, unprofessional ones, he has such a long face, it’s uncanny

[stable tusk]

He really was slenderman

[trim quartz]

Yup

[fading walrus]

the China reigon as a whole needs to be reworked

I litterally repaired the army as the KMT by mid 1938

and kicked out Japan

by the end of 1939

[cobalt jay]

That is normal with the AI in this game

France if you play it right can cap Germany in like May 36 if you get really lucky

[crisp rivet]

I’m not. Twice I’ve tried with “little entente”

I never was successful

[cobalt jay]

You need to deny Rhineland

[hollow coral]

Agreed its very outdated compared to europe and the americas

And only a few countries have focus trees

I mean asia

[stuck crater]

Hes the raj guy right?

[trim quartz]

Yup

[umbral wigeon]

(checks patch notes) sees the graphics section gasps

THANK GOD

NOW to test to see if it actually WORKS

[thick edge]

)Yukon)

[trim quartz]

Valley

The announcement for goe might drop on Australia Day lol

[hollow coral]

I forgot about that

[trim quartz]

Same. Too busy playing with the got these holidays

[nocturne sentinel]

Does anyone know at what pricee the board game startss

[pseudo wing]

For those of you that missed it, by the way, we've gone ahead and made a 1.15.3 rollback in case you encounter any issues with the newest patch

[ornate ferry]

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[fresh cedar]

Waking the tiger is very dated. Loved it when it came out and was my favorite for a while. But it’s obselete in light of the dlc from the past 2 years

[pseudo wing]

well, it was integrated so you shouldn't be able to purchase it except with an old old link to it, and even then i dont think it lets you?

[thick edge]

Imma buy it

[umbral wigeon]

by god it actually works!

[umbral wigeon]

cheers man everything seemsto be working for me

[fresh cedar]

Bought it originally so others didn’t have to 😉

Genuinely loved it too. That and together for victory seemed so good back in the day. Comparing them to modern DLC is shocking lol

Just hope you guys have a monument dlc

[cobalt jay]

You know what I would really like, the ability to configure what features from a particular DLC gets used in custom game options

Although that would break certain countries

[fresh cedar]

Oh like a step further than disabling a dlc?

I think you kinda can in game settings though

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

I know in console you can

Like you can straight up disable rebellion

[thick edge]

Tf is rebellion

Do u mean resistance?

[cobalt jay]

Like it annoys me how the plane designer makes Soviet and minor air worse

[fresh cedar]

Whatever 😂, high occupation resistance becomes rebellion which is the only time I pay attention to it

Bc Ethiopia is frying my African colonies

[fresh cedar]

They really need better templates

[cobalt jay]

Its not the template that is the issue, but the amount research bloat

[fresh cedar]

Did the Soviets historically have amazing Aircraft before the Cold War?

I know in Warthunder they shred everything

[cobalt jay]

What used to be 2 researches is now 6

[fresh cedar]

Used to also research everything by like 1943–1944

[cobalt jay]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Feel like they just need better research prioritization

What always bothered me is how the Soviets never really use tanks

That was really their thing

Mass tank assaults and overwhelming with that

[cobalt jay]

What I would have preferred is that you either incorporate the researches into existing researches or make them individually shorter but collectively take the same time

[thick edge]

Soviet tactics consisted of having more men than the enemy had bullets

[fresh cedar]

Seems like the amount of calculations that would take could potentially slow the game down though

[cobalt jay]

Yeah that is the only issue

[thick edge]

The game is slow enough

[fresh cedar]

Could see the AI making 100 different researches then reassigning

[fresh cedar]

That’s what I’m saying 😭

Would cook the game, though like the idea

[thick edge]

And cook my pc

[cobalt jay]

Because the saddest thing about the designers and especially the facilities is that there are so many things that could be good but you just have to sacrifice something "better" to get it

[thick edge]

Yeah

[fresh cedar]

Facilities and designers really allow for min max supremacy though

[thick edge]

if I want good tanks, industry, arty, and inf

I don’t research navy

Or aid

Air

[fresh cedar]

Same

[thick edge]

If I want air sacrifice arty

[fresh cedar]

I feel like you can do 2 things well, but never all 3

[thick edge]

Want navy, sacrifice smth

[fresh cedar]

Game Lowkey designed like that.

[cobalt jay]

They don't really because you end up with certain projects that just end up being better than others

[fresh cedar]

Oh 100%, kinda realistic though

1 Ratte probably wouldn’t be at good as flushing out a city as 100 flame tanks

[thick edge]

Talking to a co-op
“Bro let’s rush the Ratte”
“No let’s get nukes”
How about motherships or intercontinental bombers”
“No let’s get nukes, maybe bombers”

[cobalt jay]

Its realistic, but in my opinion you just end up doing the same five special projects over and over again because they are simply better than their competition and by the time you finally get around to doing the rest, you have either already won or the tech is now obsolete compared to what you are actively producing

[fresh cedar]

Sometimes I spice it up and use others to fit my own lore

“We using rattes with super heavy railway arty guns bc arty was dope in WW1” 😮‍💨

[cobalt jay]

Like if I didn't "have" to research radar everytime I would unironically use helicopters or motherships

[fresh cedar]

Helicopters actually insanely worth

[thick edge]

Super heavy howitzers. /sphh railways guns, Ratte

So based

[fresh cedar]

Replaces 3 support companies in 1

Heli brigade 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[thick edge]

Speaking of that

For Switzerland

They get a spirit

[fresh cedar]

They get a few

[thick edge]

For div trickle back

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah the infinite manpower thing

[thick edge]

With normal hospital

Yeah

And heli

Inf

[fresh cedar]

Spain starts with Heli’s 😏

[thick edge]

Spain

[fresh cedar]

Ngl I just like using the sprites and hearing the lil helicopter noises

[thick edge]

I have actually never used helis yet

I might though

Sounds fun

[fresh cedar]

USA and Germany actually get designers for them, makes them even better

USA Lowkey the best at helis

[cobalt jay]

Nah Paradox nerfed them

[fresh cedar]

They nerfed the individual companies, I don’t think the heli brigade was

I only use brigade not the others. Even nerfed I don’t mind bc does the job of 3 companies in 1

And again hearing the puttering of em makes me happy

[thick edge]

@fresh cedar they patched the inf manpower

u can only add one

either heli or the normal company

[past anvil]

this is so real

silly copter

[swift mortar]

I think a lot of people run heli brigade instead of logistics now (in tanks)

Because it offers a decent amount of supply consumption decrease

And it gives more stats

[sour sonnet]

Have we been given a release date for Graveyard of Empires yet?

[hollow coral]

no

[swift mortar]

Sometime in the 3rd quarter of this year

Or at least that’s what paradox said when they announced it initially

[sour sonnet]

Didn’t they say Q1 2025???

[cobalt jay]

I haven't seen it mainly because you don't have the breakthrough points for it usually

[fresh cedar]

It’s releasing Q1, most likely announcing next month and releasing March.

[cobalt jay]

Looks like Late March at this point since Chak still hasn't formally made the announcement

[fresh cedar]

GDR only had like a 1 month set of dev diaries before release

Believe that’s the new model

[hollow coral]

Cant wait for the prototype unit pack😼

[fresh cedar]

I imagine Q2 will have something too, just isn’t within the pack

[cobalt jay]

I'm going off of the fact that TOA's first dev diary was released January 25th

[fresh cedar]

Eh who knows, some have been released in early March before. Just depends on the scope ig

Waking the tiger and TOA were both early March

The 7th and the 8th

If you follow their development cycle it should be similar

[naive kayak]

When are they gonna be adding new projects?

Special projects?

[thick edge]

For a second I thought it costed £300

13 and a half minutes is crazy

It has dlc…

[crisp rivet]

Capitalism

Of course it does

[trim quartz]

Yeah I’m hoping on Australia Day

[crisp rivet]

TOA released two days before mien birthday.

[fresh cedar]

Probably in the next major DLC

[rocky oasis]

We are probably getting at least one monument. Probably something for India.

Not sure about monuments for the other countries in GOE though.

[swift mortar]

How tf does dlc work in a board game

[thick edge]

Idk

But Spain and Sweden

[cobalt jay]

I presume like trading card games where you get new packs

[swift mortar]

Bro it’s like pokemon

[cobalt jay]

Yeah I think the DLCs will be like regions in Pokemon, you just buy that expansion set

[thick edge]

Can I civ greed

[fresh cedar]

Hope so

Taj Mahal obviously. They could add so many more. I get they’re sorta hard for paradox to make bc each one actually has its own sound design and animation. But I’d pay for a standalone monument dlc

[fresh cedar]

Can’t wait to 3d print all my own units 😂

[rocky oasis]

I am just imagining the board game turning into warhammer now and because of that the image of a Primarch MacArthur is in my head.

[harsh hull]

Man, imagine if there were a video game based on the board game

There aren't any good WW2 sandbox strategy games, honestly

"Hearts of Iron: The Board Game: The Video Game"

That's a winner there

[mossy geode]

I spent $200 and can’t even play the demo

[hearty blade]

impressive

[mossy geode]

This is dumb

[fresh cedar]

Douglas McEmperor

[hexed mango]

when dev diary

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-farnsworth-professor-farnsworth-bender-gif-25198969

[hoary siren]

Jokes on you, it’ll be in a billion and 1 years

[umbral wigeon]

dont give them ideas

[umbral wigeon]

who would macarthur be in this case?

[rocky oasis]

In warhammer? IDK

[harsh hull]

The logical next step for the board game is to release other regions of the world as add-on boards

Which leads to the logical conclusion

[hoary siren]

Is that a campaign for North Africa reference I see

[hollow coral]

The old habsburg and new dynasty trees for hungary are absolute rubbish

Sure it does give some nice buffs

But at the end its just wargoals for countries that are all guarenteeing each other

[terse slate]

Does anyone know what nation has the longest focus tree ? For a single playthrough wise. And with all DLCs, latest update.

[brave geode]

I think china kuomintang

Or manchukuo

[terse slate]

China? You sure? I would've thought something like Italy

[hoary siren]

No, I’m pretty sure either Germany or turkey now

[dense gale]

Should be turkey

[tight blaze]

schizo

i wouldve thought the soviets tbh

depends what branch you go down tho

[cobalt jay]

Turkey

[hollow coral]

bro is stuck in 2018

[strange void]

i mean, it almost does

certainly the most expensive boardgame launch i've seen

[glossy finch]

how long was it from first dev diary to release for Trial of Allegiance

[cobalt jay]

First trial of allegiance dev diary was yesterday and it came out early March

The thing is GDR dev diaries were only a month

So it doesn't really mean anything

[glossy finch]

We know it's before april right

[chilly drum]

Dlc is coming this quarter, no other info is available.

Im waiting for GoA too, where they finally will finish Gutterdamerung DLC

[hollow coral]

Why are people comparing goa release day to toa release date

[chilly drum]

Who?

Why?

Its literally says first quarter of 2025 on the steam page.

[hollow coral]

Not talking about you specifically

[chilly drum]

Sure, but still

[hollow coral]

Scroll up

[chilly drum]

No

[hollow coral]

Your choice i suppose🤷‍♂️

[fresh cedar]

Many others countries and regions need work before Turkey, considering Turkey didn’t even take part in WW2

Japan, Southeast Asia, middleast, North Africa, the pacific, China, and British colonies need work

[hollow coral]

They did but they didnt lose anyone because thats how strong the average turk is

But it is true that europe gets all the content while everywhere else is just colonies and outdated trees

[fresh cedar]

Like 80% of recent dlc has been Europe

As if the Pacific, Southeast Asia and North Africa weren’t extremely impactful to the war

[hollow coral]

Southeast asia could use some focus trees

Its not so different to the nordics

[fresh cedar]

I’d like to see Indochina get a similar treatment to the Congo

But you know, fun

[hollow coral]

A southeast asia dlc with the islanders siam and indochina maybe

Maybe even british burma if they feel spicy but probably not

[fresh cedar]

Feel like Australia, New Zealand, USA, Japan and Phillipines should almost be their own Pacific war dlc

[hollow coral]

Still crazy how siam doesnt have a tree but paraguay does

[fresh cedar]

Right

Or Malaysia

Phillipines

[hollow coral]

Shouldnt new zealand and australia be in a british dlc or smthn

O hope if the island countries get a tree they can do maphalindo shared tree or smthn

[fresh cedar]

I just say it would be a pacific war one as they mainly focused on Japan and assisted the British/USA in the pacific

[hollow coral]

I mean tbf the last time two majors were in a dlc was in man the guns