latest-updates

[vapid fractal]

and what does the special projets breakthrough do?

for base

I got nsb and bba

[stable tusk]

You need certain amount of breakthroughs to research the special projects, for example, some special projects need just one breakthrough, but others could need 2

[vapid fractal]

thx and what do special projets do like from my understanding there equipement like subs and nukes right?

[stable tusk]

Yes

[vapid fractal]

ty

are missles worth building now?

[trim mantle]

Hey, is götterdämmerung included in the dlc subscription thing?

[pseudo wing]

it should be, yes

[haughty tree]

And radar. If you want radar tech, you need to do aviation special projects.

[gusty tulip]

is special prjoect smth new

I dont remember seeing that

[fresh cedar]

Wish Germany didn’t go Fascist half the time when you go ahistorical

[terse slate]

I mean it’s a 50/50 what you expect

XD

[fresh cedar]

Hate that it’s so likely

[terse slate]

Ahistorical is so random

I never liked it 😭 makes my head hurt

Because wdym paraguay just joined the japanese and japan went communist so 😆

[mental onyx]

Expecting a patch to drop on monday or tuesday

hopefully

[pearl merlin]

It's been months since I was last here

[fresh cedar]

@obtuse ingot What do you think of the new DLC?

[polar jasper]

I haven't seen that name in awhile

[fresh cedar]

Same

[fading walrus]

I share 3 servers with that person

[chilly drum]

Probably ignoring the game for a while because they got disappointed with it.

I dont want to hate on anyone but they got pretty wild ideas about game mechanics.

Like including Vic-esque economics in game and city management.

Or something like that, proposing ideas that canibalise on the rest of paradox games.

[fresh cedar]

An ultra paradox amalgamation of a game

If the Master from Fallout 1 was a Paradox game

[obtuse ingot]

I like what I’ve seen of it so far

I’ve been watching RedHawk Byzantium in America EU4 and wondering how to mesh that into HoI4

[fresh cedar]

The special projects are super cool, and the landmarks

Think they could really add a lot there

[fresh cedar]

I’m not super familiar with Byzantium in America. Though an American monarchy would be a cool addition

[obtuse ingot]

It’s called Third Odyssey

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=387726157&searchtext=

https://youtu.be/ekrQfzKGBi0?si=ZU8emIk4SLX8N-ZS

[fresh cedar]

Is it like a focus on Greece?

Not a Byzantine Exodus to the Americas 😭

[thick edge]

new england?

they got a new update

why is this 1934 medium after 1936

it has the 1938 debuffs (as in the tech penalty)

[terse slate]

Because it’s a medium

Stronger boi

[static granite]

it's basically pointless to do the influence in the benelux path

you cant even invite fascist belgium because they still have the perpetual neutrality modifier

[dark galleon]

Doesnt the netherlands also have pacifism which means they cant join either

so its only the all mighty luxembourg

[dense gale]

its a bug

iirc there used to be a 1934 chassis?

[thick edge]

1934 light tank and heavy

Not medium

[dense gale]

no the basic med chassis

used to be a 34 tech

they nerfed it to be a 38 tech

[teal ruin]

Thank god it stopped

[mellow gyro]

what mod should i try

[buoyant ore]

thousand week reich or the fire rises

[thick edge]

@wicked topaz stop threatening DEMOCRACY

[fresh cedar]

So cursed without sprites

[thick edge]

Bad news

Uk has no colonies

So they have every division there

[iron field]

but ur america

[thick edge]

yes

[iron field]

its no issue

[thick edge]

indeed

[astral atlas]

Did they release gotterdamnrung yet

[iron field]

ur a few weeks late for this question

they alr released it ages ago

[royal marten]

man lives in a cave and emerges every few months to stock up on food

[harsh hull]

What about this "Death or Dishonor" thing?

Did that ever release, or did that end up being a rumour?

[polar jasper]

It was the 2nd major DLC released and it got integrated to base game

[hollow coral]

Wait what happened to that together for victory dlc? I never saw it get released

[stable tusk]

Wait, the game released? I've been playing Hoi3 all this time

[solid gyro]

same thing, integrated into the base game

it was one of the first dlcs

[chilly drum]

I swear if today is not the patch day im going to go outside and find the leftover grass

[hollow coral]

Thanks bill nye

[solid gyro]

np son

[hollow coral]

Hoi4 player discovers grass???

Whats grass

[mental onyx]

I think they're trying to squeeze in more bug fixes. They won't release it today if they are still major bugs that haven't been fixed.

[keen ferry]

Will hoi4 be on the winter sale ?

[chilly drum]

So tempted to ping Chak

Maybe they will shed some light on the patch status

...

at.Chak

This will do

[pseudo wing]

We're still trying to iron some things out, will let yall know when I can

[chilly drum]

Thats it

Im making a contact with my fingers upon grass blades

[pseudo wing]

shouldn't be too too long dw

don't let the grass tempt you too much

[thick edge]

Grass looks at you funny

Their entire purpose is too kill us

We named them blades for a reason

[chilly drum]

You literally surrounded by it.

...you are enicrcled.

[thick edge]

Damn

My dream came true

[fresh cedar]

If they didn’t add a new formable for French Empire similar to the Spanish Empire focus where it can core all former French colonies I’ll riot

[thick edge]

Music was the last thing I would accept

Expect

[fresh cedar]

The music tone change from TOA to GDR is like completely opposite

[elder brook]

i listened to 43 minutes of music this year on spotify help

i am addicted

[polar jasper]

I have listened to 0 seconds of music on Spotify

I use YouTube Music lol

[rocky oasis]

Has the patch come out yet?

[solid gyro]

L

[tacit sequoia]

i got a good question here.

why doesn't germany get czechoslovakian units when they get annexed?

[hollow coral]

The anchluss was pretty popular even with the army so it makes sense for the army to join but the czechs didnt want to join germany so ig thats why

[solid gyro]

Germany dissolved the Czech military

[summer spear]

Because Czechs were very much against the annexation

[tacit sequoia]

makes sense

[fluid shadow]

Also because the germans considered the austrians as germans. They didn't think of the chechs as german, so they probably wouldn't have accepted any of them serving in the wehrmacht even if they would have offered and if the germans had trusted said offer.

[tacit sequoia]

Maybe the Sudetenland Germans should get a few divisions popping up since it’s kinda weird tbh that you don’t get any divisions from Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia at all

[fluid shadow]

I mean at that point extra divisions don't really matter and I don't think that there were fully ethnically German divisions

[chilly drum]

@mental onyx WAKE UP

[mental onyx]

holy crap it's patch day!!!

[mental onyx]

It's 5:36 pm here lol

I expect it to release later tbh

[echo shard]

Its patch day its only 1:30am lol

[mental onyx]

It's a surprise to be sure but a welcome one

[echo shard]

Yeah im exited for fixes

Hopefully they make the ai better

[pallid hollow]

😂

[solid gyro]

bro wants max level stockfish running the ai 😭 🙏

[echo shard]

We need better ai

The ai is literally dumb

[solid gyro]

where?

i saw a good improvement since gdr released

especially the damn british ai

[echo shard]

So called good improvement

Literally ai is dumb they left some tiles open

[solid gyro]

i mean the ai is still relatively stupid but

gdr made it less stupid

[echo shard]

Ig it did, well they should improve allied ai when it comes to normandy landings

[mental onyx]

Question, is it worth it to get alaska from the US early as the USSR? They will always reject the demand if they are now part of the allies so demanding late is a no go.

[echo shard]

Not worth it

Depends on which stage of the game

Usually you’re done with germany by 1942-45

Its not worth it as the allies are a pain in the ass to fight late game

[mental onyx]

Most likely not worth it but it's fun to build missile silos there to intimidate them for rp reasons

[echo shard]

Lol, what you could probably do is like spawn 10 bb, 250dd and like maybe 6 Carriers and just spam subs

Might take up alot of resources

But you should be able to take on the us fleet

In the pacific

[mental onyx]

Because of the new sub techs, I think is now possible to beat the allied navy with mostly subs lol

The USSR got some buffs for submarines

[echo shard]

It is as i tried that with germany

[echo shard]

They did?

I never care about navy when it comes to the ussr

I gotta try out navy as the sovs

[mental onyx]

It's mostly the production costs last I checked.

[echo shard]

Oh

Oh im assuming you played the sovs alot

How do i like

[mental onyx]

The USSR did focus mostly on submarines in their naval build up canonically

[echo shard]

Prevent turkey from declaring war on me after ww2

[mental onyx]

I thought they fixed that?

They usually declare war on romania

at that point romania is your puppet

[echo shard]

It happened to me awhile back like 1 week ago

But the most recent sov game i quit as i got bored

[mental onyx]

For me, the only reason I go late game as the USSR is to decimate the allied navy lol
So much dopamine from sinking their giant fleets

[iron spindle]

"Added game option to use silhouette portraits for German leadership and focuses."

Mfw devs added somwthing that was ALREADY in game

[echo shard]

What did the german leadership do

[hearty blade]

nah thats for like certain countries where AH is banned etc

iirc atleast

[echo shard]

Mr H was unbanned in germany right

Hoi4)

[hearty blade]

ya i believe so

[echo shard]

Interesting

[iron spindle]

Which all you needed to do was to disable "Historcial Germany potraits" DLC from launcher, prompting game to use silouette

[iron spindle]

Only if you're using that material on historcial-context IIRC

And HOI 4 can go ahistorcial so...

[hearty blade]

oh ya idk

[echo shard]

Can you get achievements in ahistorical

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[echo shard]

Oh you can

Idk about ahistorical tho

I dont believe that im capable of like doing good

[hollow coral]

You just need ironman mode on and not have any mods that rework the game

[echo shard]

Yeah i uses mods that are ironman capable

[hollow coral]

A his is fun if your not going for achievements

[echo shard]

Antischulls

Or wtv

Anyone got that?

Antischluss*

[mental onyx]

I just noticed they nerfed submarines 😫

[echo shard]

Wait how

They buffed it

[low plover]

Fixed CTD caused by incorrect update sequence

[echo shard]

Then nerfed it

[low plover]

what they mean?

[mental onyx]

They nerfed the visibility reduction on techs

and reduced torpedo hit chances

[echo shard]

Oh

Cant be that bad of a nerf

(I dont play navy)

[mental onyx]

I was having fun playing naval germany. It's the first I managed to destroy most of their convoys using subs.

[summer spear]

Good

[echo shard]

Im slowly learning navy via USA

Like i understand patrolling

[low plover]

what do they mean by "Fixed CTD caused by incorrect update sequence"?

[mental onyx]

I'm tired of double checking but did they fix "our place in the sun" achievement not firing?

[wheat sundial]

Hi everyone. I started playing hoi4 around a month ago, my main nation now is italy, but i don't understand one thing. When Im attacking ethiopia should i move the majority of my african troups back to italy, so the rest has enough supply to fight, or leave all the african troops in africa and leave them fighting with the lack os supplies?

[echo shard]

Move all of your entire army to ethopian

And just attack

You dint have to do any micromanaging

[mental onyx]

Another advice is to motorize your supply there so you won't run out of supply while invading deeper into ethiopia.

[fresh cedar]

Nerfing concealment expert is so lame. I rarely take concealment expert as is but legit never will now.

[hearty blade]

i move entire army to ethiopia

the thing is

if you beat ethopia too late

theyre gonna cap

but they'll always be there

which is bad

u dont want them to be there so bring over all of the army and all of the planes

just bomb them and shoot them until they stop moving

[summer spear]

Visibility is like one of the most important stats on ships

[hearty blade]

once u beat them go down king of ethiopia i think it was called and make east africa their own country

and let the kings son stupid guy deal with it

[fresh cedar]

Right, but there’s no point in choosing that anymore over the other

[summer spear]

Depends on your navy comp

Also visibility reduces enemy hit chance

[fresh cedar]

I only ever used it as a minor with subs, would rather go for the dmg now

[wheat sundial]

Okay, thanks

[summer spear]

Subs have plenty of visibility reduction so you should go Silent hunter first, but it still wouldn't hurt to go concealment expert

[fresh cedar]

I just use silent hunter 9/10 times

[summer spear]

But most of the time you will be able to get few traits so can go both

[obsidian quiver]

amazing

[buoyant ore]

the border gore

i hate it

[obsidian quiver]

ik

[low plover]

#NoBorderGoreShaming

[low plover]

AI:

[digital mural]

Two reds

A take of 2 red countries

Tale

[stable tusk]

You should see Tannu Tuva, Ethiopia, and New Zealand

[hexed mauve]

Hi , can someone explain me how get the mode magna europa reloaded in the new version of the game

[bitter yew]

well this was a tough peace deal

1 try as well

[thick edge]

Yugo next

[umbral wigeon]

nothing like having to turn ironman on and then fighting over the ai for a pieve of land you have claimed to make your formable

[outer whale]

@thick edge

Did u played as belguim yet

[thick edge]

no

[arctic ibex]

At least you can fight it now, I remember when you'd literally have to kill the game from task manager to get another chance at the peace deal

also claims now do something, your allies tend to spend their vp on giving you your claimed states

[sonic cape]

croat

[hexed mauve]

?

[buoyant ore]

this is why i dont do ironman mode, just because player led peaceconfrences isnt compaditable

[stable tusk]

Wonder how much in advance dev diaries are written

[silent flame]

What possible additions do you guys see to special projects, especially land projects?

[high vessel]

Is it expected that I cannot open my save file which was created on version 1.51.1 on the latest (1.15.2) version?

[fresh cedar]

Super Heavy Trains. Has more AA and Armor

And maybe designable convoy ships. For speed, armor etc

Would be nice if Coastal batteries were a thing that damaged/negated naval invasion ships

[thick edge]

is this a reference

i seen it a few times

and other ppl post

[mental onyx]

Do yall reckon they're gonna release another patch before the holidays?

[hollow coral]

Depends if there is more bugs

[solid gyro]

For the love of Yoba, paradox please fix the bugged achievement “shaken not stirred”

[dusky bay]

AMA

[chilly drum]

Do you know what is shower?

[hollow coral]

https://tenor.com/view/shower-dogs-dog-cute-aww-gif-13363982

Either that or you used achievement manager

[boreal ocean]

What's that?

[hollow coral]

😼

[solid gyro]

How did bro get shaken not stirred

[polar jasper]

Is that coup with seducer trait?

Impossible

Game broke

[solid gyro]

yep

[mental onyx]

I got that achievement by reverting back my game to the nsb beta patch so you can do that to get it.

[cedar rain]

when u play as belgium in new update go the fascist path in non historical and u try to declare war on france

[safe plover]

Ah yes no bugs

[hallow pivot]

What is a Game without Bugs lol

[iron field]

go outside i beg of you

[hard smelt]

had it for a while XD

[mental onyx]

Any tips on getting the congolese belgium one? I want to utilize the shared focus tree before going independent and having a hard time timing it. Which focuses are worth getting? The extra research slot and steel is a must for me.

[safe plover]

Rubber is basically free factories and get the tungsten as well, also do the open the mines focus before becoming independent

Late 38 is fine

[mental onyx]

How about taking the focuses reducing vast uncontrollable nation modifier? Are they worth it?

I notice you can't completely remove them when going communist at least unless you take some focuses relating to having your starting country leader in power.

[safe plover]

Do the ones that also give u building slots or are 35 days

[mental onyx]

there are 2 70 day focuses and 1 35 day focus that reduce it. One gives an industrial concern that buffs aerial stuff with some supply bonuses and the 70 day and 35 day focus just unlocks some advisors that you will lose when going independent.

You have to do a 70 day focus one before getting the 35 day focus.

[iron field]

fair

[bitter yew]

Wait, I never thought about this, Pearl Harbor is just ignored xD

im sure they're gona update this when the usa gets a rework 🤞

[safe plover]

they still do the focuses lmao

even though führerkreis doesnt exist anymore

u also still get the buffs lul

uhm adenauer what are u doing

[tacit sequoia]

USA + Japan Rework.

possibly australia and new zealand rework + dutch east indies malaysia phillippines trees, then USA Japanese Major Rework.

or the south east asia can be different dlc, though i'm waiting for europe to be finished (czechoslovakia, romania, yugoslavia, and albania.)

[harsh hull]

Pearl Harbor was in the game before Man the Guns, but it was removed

Presumably too circumstantial for players to actually be keeping their fleet docked in Hawaii instead of California

[hollow coral]

I doubt they will do two majors in a dlc now

[hollow coral]

Why not see yourself

[solid gyro]

Wtf the tree should disappear when you switch an ideology

Get the battle pass or whatever it's called, it's worth the money

[solid gyro]

I think you can refund on steam if you play less than 1 hour or something

[hollow coral]

14 days

But they are pretty lenient

[solid gyro]

Yeah but if you play more than 1 or 2 hours in that 14 days you won't get a refund

[hollow coral]

🤷‍♂️

[tacit sequoia]

damn

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi4-dev-diary-czechoslovakia-and-ai-update-2.1026194/

[tacit sequoia]

czechoslovakia, romania, and yugoslavia need a rework 😭🙏

[split crow]

Immediately

[tacit sequoia]

true

i think it should be expansion pass after the new major dlc comes out.

possbily a yugoslavia-albania joint focus tree, no clue tho since they're seperate

[split crow]

That would be very nice

[tacit sequoia]

having a feeling that Man the Guns is getting merged into the game next, along with naval stuff so there's going to be a 2nd naval DLC that'll expand the naval game very much, along with USA - Japan rework due to pearl harbor not having anything.

[split crow]

Oh it is?

[tacit sequoia]

no clue, just a concept

[split crow]

The navy is already hard don't make it even harder Paradox

[tacit sequoia]

there's already a mod that does it...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1687056790&searchtext=Naval+Rework+Mod

[split crow]

Yeah make an expansion pass with an USA - Japan - idk Australia DLC + Yugoslavia Romania Czechoslovakia country pack

[split crow]

Aw hell nah what's that 😭

[tacit sequoia]

i feel like the Japanese-USA would be that, then Australia, New Zealand, Dutch East Indies, Malasyia, and Phillippines

[split crow]

Yeah whole Oceania DLC

[tacit sequoia]

wait that makes it weirder..

hmm

maybe USA Japan Siam Indochina (cuz it was independent), and Phillippines

since they're doing graveyard of empires, they may do those 5 after that cuz it makes sense to rework india and middle east (it aint the full middle east but yk), then work on parts of south east asia + Japan and USA

maybe canada for the funny

[summer spear]

Canada will most likely will be as a part of another Commonwealth rework if there will be any

[tacit sequoia]

True

[summer spear]

A new naval rework could make navy harder but also better and easier to understand

Also improve ship designer

[split crow]

They should make it much easier to understand and maybe a bit harder

[summer spear]

Also rework the freaking subs

And give some more in game info about some stuff

(looking at you, London Naval Treaty)

[hazy orchid]

besides strat bombers, what can do nuclear strikes? Is it only the nuclear icbm?

[solid gyro]

To my knowledge yes

Tho I think it's funny you can drop a thermonuclear bomb with an interwar bomber

[safe plover]

Medium range missile also works ofc

[hazy orchid]

oh okay very nice

playing historical mp game as brazil and wanna rush nukes and MRBM

well gonna play

[safe plover]

The last transport plane also has the nuke symbol but i dont think u can use it to nuke lul

[hazy orchid]

heard brazil has some nuclear focuses which should help but dunno since no dlc

[solid gyro]

Doesn't Brazil have the generic focus tree without dlc?

[safe plover]

@hazy orchid Venti Matcha with 2 pump classic syrup, please.

[hazy orchid]

yeah default tree so i cant test my plan until mp game

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[safe plover]

U know what i say to all aspiring actors?

[hazy orchid]

uh no

[safe plover]

Dude i rlly thought ur profile description was a steven he reference

[hazy orchid]

nope

It is a reference to monty python however

[thick edge]

1.15 buffs the Japan Chinese war so much

[safe plover]

But what rlly changed, the -2 org rlly doesnt chane anything

[thick edge]

Wdym

Ohhhh

Not that

The ai changes

Japan does like 2x better than before

[hexed mango]

When dev diary

[stable tusk]

Prob after the winter holidays end in Sweden

[buoyant ore]

yes

[thick edge]

I singlehandlely raised this one

Ae 1000000 tank hits hard

[fresh cedar]

I raised it by about 3000

[static granite]

I only use it for tag and allowdiplo

[fresh cedar]

I use it for “setowner” when the AI does some insane border gore or glitches and randomly gives land to others

[pseudo wing]

tsk tsk, y'all are a bunch of cheaters

[hollow lion]

I made a toolpack for that

[thick edge]

I’m taking ur bread

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/debbie-rochon-american-nightmare-slasher-film-serial-mom-knife-gif-23967696

[thick edge]

Mean

[solid gyro]

I'm a modder and I've never used a single cheat code

and never will

[fresh cedar]

I had the philosophy until gamebreaking bugs made it so I had to fight everyone to get anything

It’s just unrealistic

[buoyant ore]

send him to siberia

anyways

we must make colored puppets ironman compaditable

[dreamy haven]

I wanna create a very realistic ww2 with many outcomes and scenarios, with absolutey no experience. Do yall think it's possible?

[solid gyro]

Possible yes
Very time consuming though

[dreamy haven]

Do u wanna hear my plans tho haha

[solid gyro]

Self promotion!!! Ban this user!!1111

[solid gyro]

Sure

[dreamy haven]

So I wanna make the mod with realistic(or not) scenarios like what if the west got to berlin first or what if Eisenhower and Himmler came to an agreement or an Allied-German alliance and some stuff during the war as well like Himmler in burgundy, an SS coup like they try to control the reich before it falls apart before the end of ww2

And mega events too

Like to Total war speech

[solid gyro]

Ok that's actually very possible
Only problems you might have with that is the whole events thing and making sure the ai doesn't do stupid stuff (probably hardest part)
But sounds interesting so far

[dreamy haven]

If it ever comes to fruition you'll be the first person to test it out

[solid gyro]

Sure
If you want to get started I'd recommend asking in #modding or joining the hoi4 modding server + the many modding tutorials

[dreamy haven]

I'll try and get started as soon as possible

[solid gyro]

Start small first don't go big
Depending on your skill level
Start with a specific nation/event/whatever see what you can do first and if you like it go from there

[dreamy haven]

Ill try doing the Himmler-Eisenhower thingy first

[hollow lion]

No

[dreamy haven]

Ill prove u wrong

Wait and see

[hollow lion]

Id like that

You should start with a smaller mod to gain some experience, and perhaps more important, get an idea of how time consuming things are

[dreamy haven]

Yea that's my idea

Atleast to make the map and decisions and events first

Then I'll start of with the focuses and whatnot

[hollow lion]

Its probably better to do it the other way around

[dreamy haven]

What do u think i should do first

[hollow lion]

probably focuses ngl

map you can always adjust when focuses need it

events/decisions are linked to focuses

[dreamy haven]

Yea that's true

Also with the leaders

Cause i plan to have focuses that depose of some leaders

[iron field]

i suck okay :c

[thick edge]

we wanna have fun

[night oxide]

Has anyone who has turned off historical focuses ever seen Greece go down the monarchist paths?

[hollow coral]

Yeh

Once

And the civil war turned into a proxy war

[night oxide]

That's one more time than I've ever seen.

[flat walrus]

Yeah but they lost the civil war and got replaced by generic focus tree 100% democracy greece

[night oxide]

I just had the most miserable game.

Hungarian Soviet Republic is so tough because you get basically no pp.

So everything takes so long.

That was hours and I decided I was bored, threw in behind Ernst's Germany, and got rekt.

[flat walrus]

What year was it

[night oxide]

If you don't take Goulash Communist right from the start, you're going to be stuck at like 20% stability and get 0 pp.

Like 1942.

[flat walrus]

Dang

[night oxide]

Nah 1940.

But deleted that garbage save file.

If you don't take Goulash Communist like I didn't, you have no stability which means no pp.

Especailly because Intervention reduces your pp.

It's a shame because the run was fun, Russia went fascist so I didn't feel like a loser taking the "muh denounce Marxism-Leninism" garbage every single communist tree has for some reason.

That's every communist tree.

"Go communist."
"Get some civs."
"Join Soviet Union or get wargoal on them."

[obtuse ingot]

Option: Middle East Mutual Defense Alliance

Would be cool to see as an option. Kinda like a NATO, but Middle East

If one of them gets attacked, the rest come to the aid

[thick edge]

Might be an option for the dlc

Btw

When dlc

Graveyard of empire or sum

[solid gyro]

That's already how factions work in the game

[thick edge]

That’s a guarantee

[solid gyro]

Doesn't turkey have that one path that does that

[obtuse ingot]

Going at it from different starts would be cool. Kinda like you can have multiple options to form HRE or something

[mental onyx]

Chak, will there be one last patch before the end of the year?

[fresh cedar]

There’s 2 ways to form HRE currently I believe. Kaiserin Germany or Lichtenstein Austria

[fresh cedar]

Feel like they’ll definitely do a Gulf Council/Middle East faction

No one really talks about it but Saudi Arabia, Oman and Yemen have all gotten little updates to their names and political tags

[sullen bobcat]

is this rizz

[untold coyote]

Personally a economic type alliance would be good

Many possible paths including this, and it could also be a military alliance

[fresh cedar]

I feel bad for Russia, it’s gonna have such a hard time defending itself now as everyone will want to invade it

[solid gyro]

bro hitting up with dat hoi4 rizz 💀😭

[night oxide]

Yeah Hungary is absurdly un-fun.

No PP.

[harsh hull]

Get more PP then, ya dingus

[hollow coral]

what hungary are you playing ma boi💀

[night oxide]

The communist one where you restore the Hungarian Soviet Republic.

[chilly drum]

Judging by steam activities, probably

They are messing with their depots

[mental onyx]

nice

When you complete a special project, does it play any sounds? The specific sound is in the files but I haven't heard it in-game.

Is this a bug or am I the only one experiencing this issue?

[chilly drum]

No, there is no sound

Whats its name tho?

[mental onyx]

ui_special_project_finished

[chilly drum]

I wonder if there is a error popping up when it tries to play it

Gotta try it out

[mental onyx]

I don't know if it has been reported yet but I'll report it to the bug forums

[chilly drum]

Huh, there is no error

I guesss they just forgot to attach it.

[mental onyx]

classic paradox

[fresh cedar]

Always wondered why it didn’t have a sound

I’d still report it

[pseudo wing]

there might be, but don't quote me on it

[chilly drum]

I quote you on that, public branch got updated

There is a patch, just news lagging behind for some reason

[pseudo wing]

is a hotfix

das all

[chilly drum]

Still a patch...

Ill take it a a win

[chilly drum]

..aw.

This patch is sad, kinda

Some boomer got angry and now we are back to shadow moustache man

[craggy cave]

not me. im german, but back then, bought a non german key

im more sad about, that paradox still has not fixed some annoying bugs yet

like the missile menu bugging out or a hardcrash, when AI uses submarine launched missiles

[pseudo wing]

oof

that is a bit awkward, but their main profile is rule compliant

[dense gale]

yea

just awakard that people who link to news channel gets that

[pseudo wing]

I can edit it out in the future, though for now I need to leave it as they did win

[fresh cedar]

Feel like names like that should be automatically disqualified

Seems like a potential company liability to award problematic usernames. That’s just from an HR perspective.

[fresh cedar]

🪦

[thick edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2Y6Bj0Ty25w?si=thLm6eqS9S5Tir2-

Is this a hoi4 reference?

That multi charge gun!

[last marsh]

hi

I just wanted to play a nice game of HOI. But I cannot find a way to turn on the beautful artwork i payed for

😄

[hollow coral]

What art pack did you pay for

[last marsh]

the new Götterdämmerung

[hollow coral]

Are you on the newest version

[last marsh]

I play as Luxemburg and want to beat Germany but I cannot see someone

[last marsh]

yes i sadly had auto update

[hollow coral]

Hmmm do you have any mods on?

[last marsh]

no vanilla. but germany is not there anymore

[hollow coral]

Wdym by that?

Like just germany on map is gone?

[last marsh]

mal?

[last marsh]

yes it got censored i think. Is there a button to turn it on? the whole game doesnt make sense without the evil germany in it

[hollow coral]

Can you take a screenshot because i am still not sure what it looks like

[last marsh]

also in the focus tree there is more art missing

[solid gyro]

no more germany 😱 😱 😱

ww2 avoided

[last marsh]

yes so this game will never exist

[solid gyro]

billions will touch grass and meet women

[last marsh]

😄

[solid gyro]

If the painter would have heard this he would be so mad

What if he won the war?

Would it have been nuch better now?

[hollow coral]

its not that deep dawg

[analog leaf]

Beautiful

A real beauty

[solid gyro]

if we talk about a TWR like victory, it would be bad for a bit
if a TNO like victory however...

[solid gyro]

It think it would have been

[harsh hull]

The naval game play ramifications of sinking Germany into the sea would be huge

Switzerland as a naval power from the start of the game? Unheard of

[thick edge]

Hoi4 board game is wild

We got 2d hoi4 before gta6

[bronze inlet]

Looks fire

[fresh cedar]

Smash

[thick edge]

So we need to armour meme guys

And cheese France

3-4 hours is devious

[pearl rover]

why did they do that i thought they dont need to censor the nzis anymore

[pseudo wing]

what da hell

[thick edge]

We don’t blame him

Hoi4 🥳

[pseudo wing]

is not like that for meeeeeeeeee

[fresh cedar]

Different UI sizes change how posts look lol

[thick edge]

Chak

U should

Turn on light mode

[pseudo wing]

Arheo commented on it, let me grab the quote;

[fresh cedar]

This is on mobile

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flashbang-gif-25002731

[thick edge]

2h 27m

What is bro doing

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/curse-you-dinkleberg-the-fairly-odd-parents-dad-mr-turner-angry-gif-15375777

[fresh cedar]

Work

[pearl rover]

i thought germany changed that i could have sworen i read smth like that

[solid gyro]

Boards of Iron IV dropped?

i roll a 6, Poland is now mine!

[winter dragon]

Game nights with the boys abt to be crazy

[thick edge]

Real

[iron field]

you oughta activate the @

[pseudo wing]

i dont need the role ping, I am the one who uses it lmao

[iron field]

fair

[thick edge]

I should be allowed to @ everyone

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/thatsmything-thatsmine-mine-archer-gif-5399788

[thick edge]

Pleaseee?

[bold tangle]

Mr Bridle are you anywhere?

[fresh cedar]

Imagine remaking the HOI4 boardgame in tabletop simulator

[thick edge]

lol

[solid gyro]

This may be the worst decision ever

How many of us Hoi players have touched grass

We may never have enough people to play the game

[hollow lodge]

How much would it cost?

[fresh cedar]

We don’t know yet

[hollow lodge]

Sad

[frigid sky]

is it possible to upgrade the capital city buildings? (I'm playing as germany and it says its level 1)

[fresh cedar]

Through focuses

And the only one that upgrades is the Reichstag to Volkshalle

[elder wren]

Does the board lag after 1941?

[thick edge]

Yea

[outer whale]

ok so

belguim might be the country that is the

Turkey of this dlc

Focus tree is big

and most of them are 70 days focuses

like did the developer actually played it

the only place that has 35 days are forts branch

Imagine just to form a new government you need to waste 385 days

oh sorry I forgot the other one
440 days

and that's like entering the new government branch

like I didnt count any economy or millitary tree

If we also add them

lets see

595 days

If you like want to get a functional economy

595 + 440 = 1135 days

in years its equal into

something between 3 years and 4 years

wow we are already at the brink of german invasion

and we didnt do any fort and military focus alone or new government focus

I dont really like to compare but to compare it with germany its (without mils) conquest part 350 days

for rebuilding the german economy, its 245

or wait lets see it fully

455 ( excluding military factory focuses of it)

man

why paradox

[solid gyro]

Belgian economy Tree is weak asf

I think in the first few focuses the Netherlands reverses much of its debuffs and gets 2 mils

[hollow coral]

I just do political and army lol

And just fix the debuffs on industry

[frank gulch]

Gemmy 'zelig pfp

https://tenor.com/view/mymy-schoppenboer-ongezellig-cartoon-kinemaster-slideshow-gif-1410681657550043320

[outer whale]

And unnecessary long

I wonder if devs actually compared it lol

[gleaming thicket]

can argentina still get the mustache man?

[solid gyro]

What

[hazy orchid]

Can i only nuke with missles with ICBM and nuclear warhead?

[boreal ocean]

Look who's talking shit about belgium...

[frigid sky]

Can somebody recommend me attack division templates? (With the new dlc) I heard the new heavy artillery is really good

[fading walrus]

Belgium has the same problem as France

[south meadow]

yes

[fresh cedar]

French Empire is really the only good French tree imo. Being able to take Benelux and UK before Germany can is very strong

Just wish it was able to get cores on more stuff. Maybe like Quebec and Louisiana

[mental onyx]

Do you ever get to the point in the game that you're just building and producing stuff for the heck of it when playing as a major?

[solid gyro]

REAL

[frank gulch]

Omgsisa

'boer WABAG

💎

[solid gyro]

Merry christmas

[outer whale]

@fresh cedar what do u think

[fresh cedar]

About economies?

[outer whale]

yes about how short german economy tree is

[fresh cedar]

The French economy sucks. You’re forced to decolonize or get permanent strikes

[outer whale]

and how long belguim economy tree is

[fresh cedar]

Oh I like the German economic trees tbh

The reform tree is long

[outer whale]

not as long as

belguim

595 days
If you like want to get a functional economy as belguim

and the focus tree still doesnt end

germany its (without mils) conquest part 350 days
for rebuilding the german economy, its 455 again with no mils

[fresh cedar]

Doesn’t need to be as long as belgiums imo. Belgium relies on its colony to succeed, Germany only needs itself

Germanys economy is effectively what it can conquer

[outer whale]

no I mean

[fresh cedar]

And it’s diplomatic tree is amazing

[outer whale]

belguim economy is like

too long

It could be better If it was 455 days

[fresh cedar]

Eh, gives them something to do

[outer whale]

but like that still doesnt end your focus tree man

440 days is to form a new government

as belguim

595 + 440 = 1135 days

I think thats really long

[fresh cedar]

I don’t mind how they differ. Germanys economy is about conquering enough in time whereas Belgium is growing its economy slowly by itself and its colony

[fresh cedar]

Isn’t it split with the Congo though?

[outer whale]

I mean rebuilding german economy path is still short

[outer whale]

no

rebuilding the german economy takes 455 days

which is ok

but belgian

595 days

[fresh cedar]

Yes because German economy = diplomacy/conquering

[outer whale]

and you still dont finish the economy tree

it just gives you a

functional economy a bit

[outer whale]

and how about the 440 days to just form a new government?

don't you think that's absurd

[fresh cedar]

I don’t mind honestly, when I played Belgium I never found it hurting me

[outer whale]

I mean the content is really dry to me

a walloon being the leader of the rexist party

dunno

[fresh cedar]

Belgium is fun. Could it have been better? Maybe. But I so far like it more than the Congo or Hungary

[outer whale]

I think Hungary is better in terms of political tree

it gets you where you want to go in a good time

not short or not fast

[fresh cedar]

I just prefer Austria. Hungary is okay and can be fun just isn’t for me

I’d rather play many other countries near it

Personally I think the Congo kinda sucks. Reminds me of Ethiopia a little

The whole African Union stuff needs a rework

[outer whale]

paradox african content in 2 words:
UNITE AFRICA

[fresh cedar]

Trial of Allegiance is fun in terms of uniting South America. Ethiopia and Congo aren’t

It plays like Switzerland

[outer whale]

Man If we had to proxy wars
It'd be ok

but nah

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[outer whale]

you want french kamerun?

u gotta march in paris

[fresh cedar]

IMO Trial of allegiance was fun bc of its normal paths not its meme ones

All the Brazil ones were solid, and most of the Argentinian ones

[outer whale]

u want that random spanish land?

u gotta march in barcenelo

[fresh cedar]

?

[outer whale]

showing how absurd somethings are

like

[fresh cedar]

That’s basically just Chile though

[outer whale]

eh I meant the spanish land in africa

that was at congo

[fresh cedar]

As if Poland bringing back Anastasia Romanov and getting replaced by a bear isn’t absurd

[fresh cedar]

Oh the Latin Countries

Africa needs better formables imo

[outer whale]

Honestly paradox needs a bit diplomacy rework

[fresh cedar]

Legit only fun Congo tree is Mittelafrika

[fresh cedar]

Really does I agree

[outer whale]

I am just thinking If they are gonna make the middle east pack as

"You want the syria as iraq with no allies?"

"You gotta march in paris."

[fresh cedar]

IMO the only fun African country is South Africa and specialist communist anti colonial crusade where you can puppet all of Africa

[outer whale]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Oh yeah

I know what you’re saying now

That you have to conquer entire countries to take a land far from them

[outer whale]

yes

[fresh cedar]

TOA actually tried avoiding that

Brazil can wage small wars and end once land is taken

[outer whale]

I wonder If thats going to be the case for east asia dlc

like

you took australia

india

china

indonesia

as japan

we should just peace with allies

saying

"I will give you the australia and some parts of india back, but rest is mine"

[fresh cedar]

In general the next major DLC needs a diplomacy rework

[outer whale]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Pacific would be the perfect area to do that

Since US and Japan had ties up until Pearl Harbor, but also how Japan ultimately surrendered

[outer whale]

guarantee too

like

[fresh cedar]

Conditional surrenders need work

[outer whale]

and also

[outer whale]

yes

[fresh cedar]

Yeah Brazil can. Hope more get it

[outer whale]

tommykay had something like that

[fresh cedar]

Bet Graveyard of Empires will have it

Iraq shouldn’t need to take London and Paris to take Kuwait

[outer whale]

yes

hear this paradox

I think joining factions should also be limited

like I saw it in tommykay russia video

Japan and paraguay was ally

he capped japan

and then he had too take paraguay

[outer whale]

If its a regional war

it should be limited

and adding a seperate thing for economic unions

like kaiserreich has

[fresh cedar]

I noticed that being much worse recently too

Factions should be limited to continent/sphere of influence unless part of a focus

TOA and GDR really just made anyone join anyone

Can’t fight any country without it being a global war now

[steel elbow]

Can I turn Monarchist as belgium without capitulating? if so, how?

[fresh cedar]

No

[hollow coral]

Yeh you can do it if you the the command “set_ruling_party n”

[hollow coral]

I dont like how you cant leave a faction if you are fighting the same war as them but they can kick you out any time

[fresh cedar]

Agreed. Allie’s will constantly kick you out if you’ve generated any world tension. It should be a thing where either they can and or can’t. And if they can kick, it’s only if you generated world tension after joining

I think it’s apparent though that factions and diplomacy needs a serious rework

[hollow coral]

fr

especially the conditional surrendering

they should also rework border conflicts

i saw someone once say they should rework borer conflicts where you dont just attack the state but actually you go in by getting each province

[fresh cedar]

All the niche diplomatic oddities need a facelift tbh

I legit never do border conflicts. Find them infuriating and a waste of time

And in my 6k hours never have used conditional surrender

[hollow coral]

true cuz they pretty much only used it for waking the tiger

[fresh cedar]

Only common use of it is Khalkhin Gol

A functional border conflict system would be awesome for minor powers imo

Or using conditional surrender to just get resource rights

[hollow coral]

especially because if you are a small nation that needs some land the a major controls it would be useful

[fresh cedar]

Ideal in the southern hemisphere

Like Panama taking the canal, South American countries taking the guyanas, carribean or falklands . Africa in particular would really benefit

I imagine the next Major DLC Q4 2025 would be a Pacific rework. And couldn’t imagine a better time to rework diplomacy

[hollow coral]

i think probably a japan rework with south east asia

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully

Even if it was just a Sphere of Influence rework that effected claims

Factions, post war borders and never ending wars are such a mess

[hollow coral]

i cant wait for asia to get some love

[fresh cedar]

Feels like Warhammer 40k not real war

[solid gyro]

siam, dutch east indies, malaysia, mengukuo, mongolia/tannu tuva all dont have focus trees

australia and nz are limited

[outer whale]

well

If you are gonna play in MP

with your friends

If your germany friend will also go monarchist, tell him to justify on you before he goes to civil war

after that delete your army

when justification is done

he should declare war on you

and capping you

after that he should take nothing

from you at the peace conferance

so at late 1936, you can play as monarchist belguim

[fresh cedar]

Just can’t see them doing a mainland Asia rework before a pacific war one

[mental onyx]

They can't have china and japan have a rework on seperate DLC. That feels criminal

Maybe the netherlands can have a bit of rework if the DEI will have the common colonial tree like the congo

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it would be Southeast Asia and Japan tbh

Saw this was added in GDR as a part of Nigeria

Wonder what it would’ve been and if it’s cut content

[hollow coral]

Fr

[hollow coral]

China deserves its own full dlc tbh

That includes japans puppets and maybe mongolia and tannu tuva

If you rlly think about it thats pretty much like 4 countries plus some extra since the warlords dont have much information to make an indepth focus tree to begin with

[mental onyx]

China, PRC, and maybe manchuria will have the major focus trees in China while the warlords have small ones, why not just include it with japan?

They can take their time with the dlc

[hollow coral]

Southeast asia plus japan just sounds better tbh

[mental onyx]

The more the merrier I suppose

I can imagine a little entente dlc with a france rework and a commonwealth dlc with a UK rework

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[thick edge]

If I have to buy a China/japan dlc imma start tweaking

The old one got integrated

Better get it for free

[haughty aspen]

I was winning my previous games as Germany trying to get full air superiority in the UK, but now I am no longer. What am I doing wrong?

I believe my problem was that I somehow managed to assign the wrong production company to my plane designs......

Because it said average speed was bad, and I checked the production company, and it was not assigned to the one that gives more speed..

[thick edge]

Anti air

20 AA

does a lot

[haughty aspen]

What is a way to avoid that then.

Wouldn't speed conteract that?

[thick edge]

No

I assume ur Germany against UK

[haughty aspen]

Yes

[thick edge]

Try the English Channel

Or

[haughty aspen]

I did

I won

[thick edge]

Large bombers

Make them aim for AA

[haughty aspen]

Hmm

Ok then

[thick edge]

getting control of south England is hard no matter the nation

[haughty aspen]

What would you recommend for a good large bomber design?

[thick edge]

Lemme find one

[haughty aspen]

Thank you

[thick edge]

Do u wanna do long range? Or short range

[haughty aspen]

Hm, long range probably

[thick edge]

I think 4 bomb modules
6/4x engine III 2 turret ,defence , extra fuel tanks and armour plates

That should work

U can use self sealing if u have extra rubber

(Use 1940 bomber and engineer for this)

[haughty aspen]

Yup

[thick edge]

Research survivable studies and range improvements

That should work

[haughty aspen]

Much appreciated

I've been trying to successfully invade and capitulate the UK in this new DLC.

[thick edge]

If u do naval invasion do the area near hull

The south has like 7 divs per tile

[haughty aspen]

Hull as in the Eastern side?

[thick edge]

This part

[haughty aspen]

Yup that area

I've been doing the area in Dover mainly

[thick edge]

Dover is a suicide charge

[haughty aspen]

I have sometimes made a landing, but I would eventually get pushed out.

[thick edge]

Yup

[haughty aspen]

I used to do how you are telling me now, so I will go for it again.

Would you suggest I use paradroppers?

[thick edge]

U could try to suicide charge paratroopers away from the naval invasion to distract

Use marines to invade hull

[haughty aspen]

I thought that

[thick edge]

Maybe amphib tanks

[haughty aspen]

Oh definitely

[thick edge]

Make sure to have convoy escort on

[haughty aspen]

Do you have a recommended template for infantry and marines?

[thick edge]

Brb

[haughty aspen]

I use 18 width for infantry

9 in combat, and support artillary, anti air, and engineering for the support company.

[thick edge]

18w marines might work

Give them supp arty and engineer

U could add 1-2 arty battalions

Try to stay around 20w

[haughty aspen]

battalions as in the combat or support slot?

[thick edge]

Combat

[haughty aspen]

Oh ok

Thank you again for the help. I will see what happens.

[thick edge]

No problem

[outer whale]

Flame-tanks also works

[thick edge]

i barely use them

[signal cargo]

I find them a little annoying to set up every game

[pale pagoda]

A question, is cheating for the AI in ironman added?

[hollow coral]

What does that mean

[jolly terrace]

No

[north shale]

help

My game has these errors and I don't know what to do

[south meadow]

reinstall hoi4

[warm plover]

As Italy should I be a support to Germany or try to expand myself?

[low quiver]

You need to be expanding into Yugoslavia and into Greece, and the rest of the Med Sea and Northern Africa

[fresh cedar]

Same

[fresh cedar]

Just do your own thing and betray them. You’re effectively trying to get the same land as them

[safe plover]

wtf why

why do they have helicopters

[fresh cedar]

Because they were one of the first countries to ever develop them and as early as the 20’s started using them

[thick edge]

that ^^^^

[hollow coral]

some spanish guy made them

[wicked topaz]

Why not

[signal cargo]

Theyre amazing thats why

[summer spear]

USA, Soviet Union and France had helicopters at this point as well (not in active military duty tho?)

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/why-isnt-it-posssible-its-just-not-american-psycho-gif-26353597

[willow willow]

Based

[fresh cedar]

I think Spain was already commonly using them for scouting and other missions hence why it starts with it

[twin nexus]

is it just me or did paradox remove some german portraits?

[thick edge]

Let me guess

They are blurred or smth

Hitler isn’t there

[twin nexus]

yea hitler isnt there

and führerprinzip focus icon got changed

[thick edge]

U live in Germany

There are some laws

[twin nexus]

yea thats true

is it just because of that?

[pseudo wing]

there was some confusion regarding what was and wasn't allowed by the law, so they shadowed the nazi portraits in the german version of the game to comply with the law, I believe arheo commented on it let me find it

there it is

[buoyant ore]

german government is sensitive about the nazi stuff due to ww2 etc

if u want uncensored version then either get the american version or get a mod that uncensors him

[twin nexus]

yea i know that but i didnt think they would go this far as in censoring a video game

[thick edge]

It’s literally a ww2 sim

With the worst part of their history

[buoyant ore]

if its anything relating to ww2 and that part of german history then the laws will not be avoided

[buoyant ore]

ww2 was the worst time to be alive in germany unless u glaze the regime cough tno devs cough

[vale hinge]

tbh

i don't like the new major update

game feels off

maybe toooo many things to do now

my opinion tho

[safe plover]

no they had autogyros

[safe plover]

yeah , but i think ppl believe that its like overly sensitive.. There a alot of german hitler comedys for example

i mean u can literally larp stalin sending(or killing ofc) ppl to gulag in hoi4...

[buoyant ore]

russia dosent care

[fresh cedar]

Like how 80% of the “helicopters” in game are autogiros

[tacit sequoia]

May have an idea for next major dlc

Not the country pack in Middle East + India

Day that will never be forgotten:

Reworked Nations: USA, Japan,
New Trees: Siam, Philippines, Malaysia, Dutch East Indies
Mechanics: Motorized Rework, Supply Research Category (with motorized focuses), Ideology Rework.

[thick edge]

U said the same thing people have said for months

[tacit sequoia]

Ik

Though it has stuff to go with it in that sense, plus Japan is outdated + integrated into the game, and America needs a whole rework from scratch to give it more stuff to do, plus more leaders besides FDR, Truman, Douglass MacArthur, etc.

[thick edge]

We all know

[fresh cedar]

Why would Japan and the USA get a mechanized rework? If anything they’d get a Naval/Diplomacy rework

[fresh cedar]

Legit we had a convo about that last week 😂

[tacit sequoia]

Yeah I forgot about the naval part 💀

[thick edge]

Hear me out

This is a bad idea

But types of mechanized

Mech SPAA

like the uh motorized companies

With AT AA and Arty

Or is that light tanks💀

[tacit sequoia]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Only reason I thought motorized/mechanized rework is due to manufacturing of cars in USA

[fresh cedar]

Types of mechanized kinda already exists though

Can turn tanks into them sort of by adding tracks

And IFV’s are a thing

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it would be naval and diplomacy. If they wanted to get really creative, maybe corporations, with the ability to place them on the map so major companies actually can be targeted. So while up buffs specific production lines, if down hurts it

Bc strategic bombing and corporations were super important between US and Japan

[tacit sequoia]

That makes sense

[thick edge]

Hear me out

Refineries

But

Other resources

Most mods do it

[fresh cedar]

Too OP

[pine lake]

Where is my M1 Thompson? USA

[fresh cedar]

I believe that’s a glitch, it often corrects by itself if not leave and rejoin the match

[fading walrus]

EU4 Players like me be like:

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[undone kelp]

I am honestly surprised first gen IFVs weren’t a thing added to Gotterdamerung.

[thick edge]

i found a community creators soviet thing on the workshop

is that legal

/allowed

[stable tusk]

Well yeah, as long as none of the stuff is from the DLC
I saw the same thing and all the focuses are custom made by members of the community so it should be fine

[thick edge]

alr

[fresh cedar]

Mechanized and armored cars sorta there already ig

Granted they could’ve added IFV’s but would it be worth?

Think air to air missiles and a new level of infantry equipment would be a nice addition to special projects

Kinda surprised the night vision wasn’t made to be special project