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U have the states needed for the hungery one?
What's NSB?
No step back
OH i got that one
the germans take slovakia from you when they do fate of czechoslovakia lol
š
transylvania, banat, Vojvodina, all of slovakia, Burgenland
the ones that the focus tree allows u to get
you dont need croatia which is good
Ooh
the german ai is doing really shit this game
Raaaaaah that thing crazyyyyy. And I almost did the same path rn, except I tried to invite italy
XD
Poland capped and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact gave Germany all the land I've already taken
literally everything about this DLC is currently broken asf
I wonder whether the devs are even playtesting

Who shoulf I go for in the inner circle
hess, goering, goebles
Why goering
Ah i kinds chose the guy on the modt left instead
Where's the Belgian government in exile focus tree?
They should have added blondi as a leader for Germany
Ah man the Austrian focus tree has nothing for the TIGR organization who were active there
Alright, I'll just say it - I understand why they didn't add Eupen-Malmedy and Prekmurje as their own states for this update, and respect the dev team's final choice
But I think it is silly that they don't do that in the update immediately after making the Amazon seven separate states
Is it possible to just prevent anschluss ?
if u get a bigger army then germany yeah
no it's not I think
you can even Anschluss as Germany with a smaller army
that army counter thingy goes down to 0.001x
or something like that
the lowest I saw it was like 0.231
or something around that
If you make the central powers yeah
why sail to the usa ?š
did anyone found out already how to get the secret leader of georgia?
what is?
and ive been waiting and it doesnt complete
oh nvm
it literally just finished LOL
himmler is slow researcher
he's not sharpest shed in the tool so it may occur that he's slow with researching
/ doing focuses
is it just me or do the austrian subjugation decisions completely break if you have one ongoing and join a faction with the person ur doing it with (pact of rome)
Lol
not just u
they break for no reason sometimes
(in my experienced)
the most unpolished tree in the whole dlc is the austrian one
legit unplayable. ive been able to do it ONCE and never again
hope they get to that ASAP because its genuinely horrid
Hm, yes.
How?
are rockets limited by the the speed and bombing caps present in the defines
Next major dlc when?
not for a while
Soon(TM)
Go civil war, get expatriated/exiled communists back, hang all Nazis, go Kaiser, then do the expatriate the communists focus. Afterwards, you should gain a political advisor, "Otto Strasser"-- boosting fascism. Switch to Fascist, either via civil war (untested by me) or by political discourse. Now you should have Otto Strasser as leader, and have access to the Kaiser tree and foreign policy, which opens some fun doors in forming a Nazbol HRE and European Union.
You need to Rally the Wehrmacht and then go Fascist after somehow
Weird, why is Patrice Lumumba a possible advisor to the Congo.
He shouldn't be old enough.
awesome
What are your opinions on the different new Prototype Techs?
Does anybody else also feel like the game is 10x harder
I'm doing historical Soviet Union and I'm afraid of Barbarossa now š
I'm trying to do No Step Back achievement no less
I wouldnāt say 10 but at least 4 times harder yeah
definetly bro š
Bruh invade poland and puppet belarus and ukraine
And do not invite them into war
Then only defend coastline, finland, romania and japan border
Depending on nation and goal, they range from absolutely useless to must have
But most aren't really that bad or OP
as it should be
fr!
Has anyone done rexit belgium run?
This comes next year out
That is like the German anti-nazi resistance flag
Oh, looks like Scandinavian
It does, partially why they restored the tricolor instead of using that flag
That's my question I understand at the beginning but why not the current flag
I think the updated German historical tree was given out to everyone for free, regardless if you have the dlc or not I think
Historical Germany and special projects were free, don't worry you aren't going crazy
some of the raids, special projects and science stuff was all made free, alongside historical tree as chicken here mentioned
everyone got a lil' something
I think it was just the nuclear raids
Huge name steam leak
?
is paradox aware of deploying missles desyncing the game in MP?
Make bug report
already
Trying to put missiles on a submarine does the same I think
In single player I was wondering what was going on
I think the next DLC with either be a USA/Industry rework or a Japan/faction rework
thats the new ai cordination
they concentrate their forces at points to push
and from what im hearing naval invading the UK is way harder now that the AI actually defends their coast
Honestly it was only harder for my first couple of games before I adapted to it
You have to be a bit more careful and you're all good
I suck at the game so now I just suck even more
Rip
i didn't see it
but that was probably because I did it well
send 9 infantry on a naval invasion, cut them in half, had a wide front in Africa because I did the colab government vichy france trick so they have to send more forces overseas, and once the infantry landed send 24 infantry, 9 motorized, and 9 beefy medium tank divisions to the port as well
use the operation planning bonus too
they didn't stand a chance
the motorized divisions were super fast and quickly took out the north and took land, the infantry body blocked and if they tried to stack the medium tanks busted through
Plus I had green air since I had spent a while bleeding out the UK air force over the channel (I don't have BBA so it was actually a challenge)
I didn't even take London, I took the rest of England and then London because all their divisions were down there
if I didn't have the motorized it probably would have been much more difficult so remember kids 14 kilometers per hour plus a recon company is no joke
but it shows a mutual branch next on the start
yes
yeah with the old alt hist tree
DUDE WHAT
That's the Waking the Tiger alt hist
Feel like missile subs arenāt really worth. Why would I invest so much time and energy into it if I can just build ICBMās
Assert dominance, get even closer to the enemy
SLBMs are cheaper than ICBMs
Whats that czechoslovakia?
you can roll back the update until you feel like you feel ready for the newer DLC
HOI4--> Properties ---> Betas
Maybe stop attacking
Short answer: yes
How do I get better at the game to begin with?
I always get pushed back or can't push
do you have tanks
i used to not use good tanks
then I did and everything got so much better
Yes
how to get kaiserin right now
same thing happened to me after ||taking over switzerland||
Wait why is there a kingdom of Prussia in East Prussia?
germany was in my faction and they started declaring on everybody when I was very fragmented and weak to I kicked them and betrayed them and in the peace deal i managed to puppet prussia
So this will be a second war?
the second war ended up being against russia
Bro is playing realistic ww2 scenario
Does Belgium only have four research slots ?
"only"
I mean most countries get 5
Most minors get 3
Yeah Belgium gets 3 starting
What Iām saying is I donāt see the focus for five research slots
Thereās one in the industry tree
Pretty sure that's more than most minors, since a lot of them starts with 2 only
Dude what Iām saying is
Belgium canāt get five
I donāt care about itās starting
So can't lot of other minors
Like, best you can get is 6
am i the only one who thinks that german ai is broken?
they never pick a path after the civil war
they sometimes do
I've seen them ask for eastern Poland once
no
just more annoying
if you've semi good divisions you can still just overrun it
in this run they didnt, they just go to a civil war not because of a focus but because of a party popularity
and i took the chance and manage to take them down after it ended
France starts with 3
as well as the USSR
Though I think France should start with 4 TBH
Guyz
Made a post regarding some issues/bugs with the dlc
Help me make the devs see it
Tyvm
Both, France and USSR are majors
And pretty sure they can get up to 5
USA can get 6 slots in 36
Honestly I think USA and Germany should be the only ones with 6, rest of the majors 5
In 37 at best
Luxembourg,Tuva,Bhutan get 10
It needs 7x 70 days focuses to get those
USA could use a new focus tree first
Together with Japan
A pacific update
New USA/japan focus tree
Siam
Malaysia, indies, or Philippines
With small focus trees
Malaya and India would most likely fall under another British Commonwealth DLC if there will be any
I'm betting US and Japan will be the next major DLC, south east asia will be a country pack
UK and it's puppets in expansion pass 3
true
the Raj was confirmed for the next DLC Graveyard of Empires
though Malaya needs a focus tree too
i thought it was afganistan DLC but didn't really check it
its adding the Raj
not sure why
but I'm fine with it
oh I know why
the Pashtuns in Pakistan
because in the 1840's the UK drew the borders to make Afghanistan more of a buffer between the Raj and the Russian Empire
curious to see the alt history of India (I just don't want a Mughal path because the Mughals are irrelevent by 1936)
same goes for Persia and a Zoroastrian revival path in 1936
and I like Zoroastrian Persia
I just don't think they fit in a WWII game
i think its going too far into fiction at this point
true
anyways if the romaboos want to play a Rome game they should play Rome total war or Attila Total war
like I do
Western Roman Empire in attila is insanly difficult but fun and rewarding
PS I gave my self this username as I play the Western Roman Empire in Attila alot
there are other PDX games where they can go do that
or use mods
true
i got an invis ping š¤
Who pinged
prolly staff cuz it came from #hearts-of-iron-news
could be discord doing discord things
sometimes the ping doesn't go out on time and it just... goes off whenever it wants
Like how people are already starting to make special project mods
Feel like itāll be pretty good for standalone mods
While this is true the same could be said for many polities that exist in the game. I think since Mussolini had the ārestore Romeā idea, it kinda opens to floor for any country to pursue former colonial ambitions
Would find it more interesting to have a Princely states federative/faction path that divides India but gives them strong individual buffs.
There are mods for it?
Someone made a Mech mod
Using the special project mechanic
I hope they do a landmark dlc. Itās so cool watching the destruction animations. Favorite gotta be the Statue of Liberty and Christ Redeemer destructions
lol typical modern Total war fans I found their response to my comment when I was telling them about the DLC before it was even announced
doesn't help that they love the worst games in their decaying total war franchise
The Warhammer ones are good but tbh the last time I seriously played total war was Empire
Atleast paradox makes new games and features. Total war are just reskins
yeah these guys are braindead
Paradox 100% milks DLC but it does make new and unique content
agreed
All total war does is milk with reskins. Zero innovation
no innovation since 2015
yes
My one friend has like 20k hours in total war games
He plays them every day
I just donāt get it
Itās like a dumbed down version of paradox games
exactly
Does the fuhrer die when berlin is captured by the Soviets in the new dlc
Idk, that would involve me playing something other than Germany
This means Czech democratic path isn't unique anymore tho
deport hungarians
TWR moment
Why is there no option for a reichsprotecterate in France or Italy?
I played the civil war and it happened right after I got berlin
Did you do the focus to create the reichsprotecterate?
Yes
Because of Vichy France and the Italian Social Republic ig
There are options for everything else in the world
Currently the only issue I have with the DLC aside from the bugs is that Germany didnāt get more generals.
Granted that is mostly a flavor thing than an actual gameplay problem.
Many are unlocked through the focus tree
Does he die or flee
No, I meant new ones. Not ones that were already in-game. For example, von Falkenhorst, the guy in charge of the invasion of Norway is not a general for Germany.
Ik but when the Soviets do
nor is the leader of the condor legion
ig die
a bug then ig
There are some more like the new field marshal and a few others
I think there is a new panzer general or 2 too
Guderian and Rommel were already in game. They are just locked behind a focus now.
No I mean like Klist
Or whatever his name is
There is also a new field marshal
And a couple others
They get removed if you go ribbentrop
Why go Nazi when you can go Kaiser
I was saying that those generals get removed if you do it
My point was that I just feel like there should be more generals for the historical German path, especially since there are some that are only advisors for some reason.
Von Falkenhorst, the person in charge of the German invasion of Norway is in game as an advisor for Finland, but not as a general available to Germany.
Kleist was already in game though.
Idk, I always use like the same generals every game
First time I used this guy
Never seen him before
Is he the panzer officer with like 4 attack
well Falkenhorst is kind of busy in China if i remember right
That is Falkenhausen
I think Hitler can flee to Austria now
thats interesting
Stalin can flee to Georgia too, looks Gaunt and has no facial hair
bruh
How do u do that exactly
Georgia must exist, and the White Russians must beat Stalin. Then he flees to Georgia
Has Georgia to be commie?
No idea havenāt done it
I think there may be a way for Austria to get Hitler too
There needs to be a civil war in Germany and Austria has to flip Fascist
Other than that idk
Like flip after Germany is gone if
Yeah idk, I saw someone flip while the civil war was happening
There's one that increases Fascism support and one that increases compliance in the UK, you pick in an event
Oh thatās kinda cool
The second one is a reference to a skit
First one is called "Propaganda Artist" or something
also
RKs are terrible if you have a colab government
like why would I want to create a puppet that doesn't have cores on the state and so can't get me the maximum output when I can just have a puppet that does (and gives me 75% of all their factories)
I tried that but it didnt work
I may try to get it with commands this weekend
Just to see
yeah this is a little crazy
50 soft attack from 3 of them
and they go 12 km/h so they dont even mess up your speed
agreed RK's are for LARP only
The one time I used them
Was the Poland general goverment
And only cause it was really small, had the big resistance states, and I wanted some added buffs
Also, the integrating Czechoslovakia focus is very cool
You get a ton of compliance on them (although that may have partly been the collab government I had on them doingās itās magic
can it be that the German civil war become more difficult now?
Where tf is self propelled
I canāt find it
I researched it
it feels like it is a little harder now
still very easy because of the war hero buff
Somehow I can't manage to win it anymore i dont know what i do wrong
you can start off by deleting the entire army
and if you're really struggling you can put all of your equipment on the market right before the civil war starts
and then cancel it once you're the military junta
and then spamming out the smallest unit you have
and converting it to infantry
and dont forget about airplanes
after that you can just battleplan it
i give it up it want not more that i win it wow Before the DLC you found out how the civil war works to win and now it becomes harder
wut
i dont really know what you mean by this
i mean before the new dlc i had first learned how the civil war works and now its difficult for me
well i try it tomorrow again if i have sleep here is it 4am im looking forward to lose later again but for now good night
alright gn
Graveyard of Empires Predictions
India- East India Company (confirmed by steam page), either multiple different monarch candidates like the Congo or some sort of council of princes, fascist Indian independence path, Communist independence path, democratic Indian independence path, maybe trees for Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Iran- Monarchist path which sees the Persian Empire revived, Islamic Revolution, fascist path, communist path, Hitler can become emperor of fascist Persia as Darius IV or something.
Iraq- Pan-Arab path, Golden Square fascist path, Assyrian Empire? Sumerian Empire? Babylonian Empire?
Afghanistan- multiple focuses that upgrade the Graveyard of Empires spirit until it becomes impossible to invade Afghanistan, monarchist path, fascist path to prevent revolution or the fascist path could be something similar to the Ethiopian warlords, revolution path where you can choose to go democratic or communist.
also formables
mughal empire
and ima call it joke focus tree for either nepal or bhutan
or at least event chain/decision
Bro i hope they add another french delusional path for india
House of bourbon bhopal
Taliban secret path for Afghanistan
Is there's leopold congo?
Also
Why do we still don't have white peace option with the
Colonial powers
When we defeat the british Portugal and french
Like do we need to march to their capital to take their lands
Why do only thermonuclear bombs destroy division strength and org?
yeh they should disintegrate the divisions with no hope of ever recovering them ever again
they really forgot to update for no dlc players
not being able to core southern sudetenland when completing form austria hungary focus that cores austria as hungary
and after this you automatically bypasses protect czechoslovakia focus for no reason even tho i didnt clicked in decisions
in german civil war you cant stop silisian uprising
because focus that stops them is not in base game
which gives u -50 pp and -5 stability
ai german empire kind of sucks now
they dont make divisions more than 50
hey guys, now with special projects has paradox added console commands that let you research them instantly? i'd like to mess around with them
What is the most realistic candidate for the king of Hungary? The old prince (right choice) or the fascist king?
Itās crazy because all of that is relatively new on the Steam page. Very hyped for that
Horty
Iām guessing princely will have 3 options. A council, an individual centralized empire, or a faction of multiple kingdoms
Yet he easily could have, hence the most likely as he couldāve obtained such the easiest.
But he didn't because he was a monarchist
so
Right but that completely depends on him wanting to or not. Had he wanted to, he would have been
Monarchist Chile is basically some crazy french dude taking over south America and France because he is king of Chile and is French
Do you guys think graveyard of empires could potentially spark revolutions in the Asian steppe and make them break off from the Soviets?
totally
Or coring the entire Americas as native Americans
yeah that one too
Do we know what the highest scientist level is?
Idk. India and Iraq are the most interesting because them were involved in the war
Iran was too
USSR and UK invaded them
in 1941
would be an intresting survival challange
Everyone but Afghanistan was involved
Iran wasn't involved, was invaded
I mean
It wasn't an active actor
Iraq was active compared to Iran, Iraq did a 1 month war against uk
I don't remember how long the war lasted
anyways I'm gonna reinstall the Kaiser and rebuild the Highseas fleet
MEFO bills suck now (which is good)
the better long term option is Priortized Economic growth
But I asked about Hungary. Excluding Horty (because Horty didn't want to be a king) who's the most plausible?
probably the other Hapsburg
Otto or the other?
the other
I remember Germanys old alt history stuff I could fit it 5-10 times in here
also should I protect Poland or bully them
Are we talking 1936 or what
Yes 1936
Iād guess Fascist or other Habsburg
goodbye MEFO bills you won't be missed
i forgot.. do we get secret project like guided glide bomb like fritz x for anti-ship(?)
I believe that is one, you can still get the guided ship missile
Though I think itās a product of a more general special project
it should go over all the new mechanics you can use, but also the ones from previous DLC's too
oh so its more of an in-depth guide
beginner guide 2
ngl its a pretty good thing as having ppl from paradox making guides would mean more accurate facts
not really a beginner guide, seeing as beginner is moreso the base mechanics and learning to do things pertaining to your armies/div compositions etc
Advanced is moreso to go over the additional mechanics ontop of it that have been added, especially the new GDR ones that modify your playstyle a lot more now
nah i mean something like a "continuation" to the beginner guide, as its next step to understanding the game
which is yeah, what you said lol
Hey Chak, do you know if scientists have a max level? I know spies max is lvl 2.
I don't think they do, but this is another case of I didn't think to ask tbh
Dang
I think they function the same way as spies but I cannot be sure
Got one to lvl 4 yesterday and made me wonder
a guess could be there is a soft cap at 4-5
It still was able to lvl up past that. It seems like the xp requirement doubles every time
also, I do not have an answer from your question from yesterday regarding the cores for Volks
So kinda has diminishing returns ig
Thanks for remembering
I have to wait till probably around Thursday to ask it, since I won't be around tomorrow, and the person I could ask the question to wasn't at work at the same time as me today so its a bit of telephone tag type deal aha
I just couldnāt see the point in integrating a puppet if it didnāt give cores tbh. Like no point in making a VK to begin and integrating
No worries, appreciate the diligence
Ok, since GoE is a countrypack there is a chance that it's made by the secondary team (Like with BftB and TOA), and I just hope they lock in with this one
Please secondary Hoi team š
hello evrybody
That bomber will explode when sneezed at
I just wanted to try something funny and I realised that the MIO is bugged
Is it just me, or is unaided AI Germany way weaker now than before? It gets soundly thrashed by the Allies and Comintern by late 1944.
MEFO and AI changes if I had to guess
lvl 20 š
I seriously need a Habsburg Hungary guide
This discord is amazing. People ask things to devs and they directly ask that in their work!!! Iāve never seen this before, and it is wholesome.
Pls continue this you help us all
obv I didn't get it to that lvl legit
what DLC did you guys hate on Launch
I disliked La Resistance because of all the bugs
its fine now
but every civil war was unplayble
For me it was man the guns as the extreme amount of naval techs and the naval designer made me avoid the navy stuff like the plague
when it was released
fair answer
Probably No Step Back because I didnāt understand anything.
Now it is my favorite one
Probably Arms Against Tyranny. Feel like many of the nations were buggy and so rigidly locked behind focuses that you could never really innovate. Plus your neighbors would constantly ruin your game due to bullshitery but that was ironed out
sp_research_all i think
perfection
holy shit wait ca u give me the fps mod pls
Its on steam lol
Does anyone have any meta templates for early game in the newest patch?
has the base game been updated?
Yes, added some special projects and historical Germany
whats the difference between the base game update and the new dlc?
DLC also adds more special projects like missles, helicopters, and Habakkuk (ice carrier) as well as landmarks, raids, and focus trees for Belgium, Austria, the Congo, Hungary, and Alternate History Germany
Now more than ever does the Czechoslovakia rework need to happen
Imagine spending 500 pp to get everyone in your faction just for perfidious Bohemia to give up like that
Now more than ever 20 countries deserve a rework before Czechoslovakia š
Malaysia, Burma, the warlords, China, PRC, Manchuko, Japan, Mongolia, USA, England, France, the Phillipines, Australia, New Zealand, Indonesia, Siam, pacific islands
Pacific islands?
No
The others I can agree with
Except Burma too
That is just part of Raj
They might get some content in the next dlc
Cuz it became a seperate colony in 1937
Iām pretty sure the next rework will be a Pacific Rework considering the fact that the next Country Pack, Graveyard of Empires, will rework the British Raj and add content to Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. So Iām guessing with a Raj Rework we could be having the groundwork being laid for a proper Burma Front.
I just hope it will be Japan and USA rework combined with another naval rework
Well
If they don't freaking bring white peace mechanics
It'll be like japan
Paradox seriously needs to bring a proper white peace mechanics
Like congo example
Bro why do I have to conquer Paris to get my claims from French kamerun
Or why do I have to conquer London to force UK to give up their colonial lands
It will highly be same with Pacific rework
Example you are Thailand and wants to take your lands from france
You took all over the French indo china and hoping to win the war?
NAH
You need to march your army to Paris and then London with the glorious Thai flag and then annexing the French indo china š„
Paradox just stopped adding white peace mechanics for other nations after the AAT
Like finland and etihophia has it after that south american dlc nah this new dlc nah
Agreed
They should rework diplomacy completely
Yes
I think justifying war shouldnt be like 100 days
If you justify on a state, once you take it you can demand peace
If you want to conquer multiple states you need to justify which will cost more
It feels dumb that complete and unconditional surrender is the only option
Conditional surrender is an option but it's never used
hoi4 aint a diplomacy sim its a war sim shouldnt be a priority its fine as is
War is a bloody diplomacy, while diplomacy is bloodless war
Or smthing like that
It's not a war simulator it's a ww2 game
clueless
its not a war simulator its a world war simulator
It's not a simulator it's a game
tbh better diplomacy system would make the game more immersive its good
Improve relations button is equivalent of boost ideology before La resistance, the system should be changed
no?
The boost ideology button was different from improve relations was it not?
Nah, it was just pressing one button and waiting
Just took longer compared to improve relations
There could be an entire ambassador system, you could hire and send ambassadors to countries who would unlock diplomatic missions and decisions
There should be like a recognised state and unrecognised state system
Example a warlord shouldnt be able to join factions because it isnt internationally recognised
They could modify spies system to be like that
Like communist japan making an alliance with a bunch of guerillas is kinda bs
Its over complicating things at this point tbh
Idk its an interesting idea
It make it easier to conquer a breakaway without having to fight the entire allies
Basically once you enter into a war against the axis you just become a minor that cant do much because you declared on fascist armenia
Pacific Islands, where much of the pacific war was fought, that wasnāt as basic as depicted in game? Yes. š
Kinda what I think too, probably would be late 2025 though
Pretty sure a few countries in game are already like that. Anarchist Spain, 5th empire Portugal
By "like that" you mean unable to join factions?
Yes, warlords would effectively be in the same boat as other countries
For some reason I thought it was a trait they got via focuses. So warlords having a similar trait wouldnāt be that out there
They have to join chinese faction tho
Them not being able to create faction would make sense tho
USA should have one of the strongest industries in the game
But apparently Austria should get more industry buffs than the USA
yeah and they should be nerfed into oblivion at the start of the game
Even though the USA overwhelmed enemies with industry š
exactly 50,000 Shermans vs 9,000 Panzer IVs
Yet the game is the opposite
USA, Industry, Japan and Navy should be reworked at the same time if anything
true
Not only industry but also quality and logistics
I have an attachment to the pacific war if anything as my Great Grandfather fought there
shame its neglected
compared to Europe
Should get reliability buffs. Oh trust me Iāve brought it up to paradox before. They kinda just brushed it off š
and Africa and South America
Neither Japan nor USA had their trees reworked
They had just communist and fascist trees added
true and they were so poorly researched
if anything the USA should have 3 communist options and 2 fascist options
They are the same since launch with addition of alternative patches
along with 2 or 3 democratic options
Man the Guns kinda but so dated and irrelevant bc Power Creep
I don't think the USA should have Monarchy path period
Arenāt the same from launch at all trust me lol
Man the guns added only alternative options, not reworked trees
Waking the Tiger and Man the Guns changed both I believe
No let them do their thing
Monarchist usa path would be funny
Make it a secret path
true but who would be king of America
this
Jimmy Carter
make Mac Arthur Caeser of America
A king at the end of the day is just someone with power
There is a monarchist option for USA already
Yeah but canāt do it AS USA
I guess via British tree
Thereās younger in hoi4
Yup, UK have to puppet it
yeah but Carter was nobody in 1936
Simeon was the heir
I still think Macarthur should be the canidate
better than him being leader of the CSA
But funny thing is that US historical branch excludes another historical branch lmao
MacArthur would be fascist imo
Who are the leaders for the German American rks
like a millitary dictatorship path
Iāve not formed them yet
Us should get, Fascist path like MacArthur, a fascist politician path, a military council path, and a monarchy path
In terms of right
US Military taking over would be neat
I think Britain should be able to have Joyce instilled by the Nazis as an RK
somewhat agreed but I see this Military fascism, silver shirts and Bund paths
I donāt think military council would be fascist though, more indepedent
for Communists you would have Browder (Stalinism) Lovestone (Communism with American characteristics) , and Norman Thomas (socialism I guess 𤷠)
Add good historical focus tree first, then talk about alternative trees
Moral of the story, US needs a facelift bad
too bad he wasn't portrayed properly in MTG
IMO the USA is super easy to invade now
I already got that in my head
They didnāt have a handle on trees yet
Wish Pearl Harbor was a raid tbh
what about a kaiserreich reference?
you could say the same about the Attack on Mers-el-KƩbir
I mean, it would require US to be somehow forced to keep their fleets in there
in which the UK attacked the Vichy French fleet after France surrendered in 1940
Also isn't there a suprise attack option using spies?
Not necessarily. Just have AI dump fleets there for the pacific. And have the AI be able to raid it once no matter what
So even if it just destroys a single destroyer it still happens
I mean the defining moment that made the US enter the war isnāt represented really at all
Even with systems able to
Wish Phillipines had a tree
and China needs more resources
Iāve been wanting a good pacific war for a long time. But this game really kinda just focus on the European war
I do bc non core manpower
Average PDX game
Chinese and Indian non core manpower goes so hard
Is it worth it if you will use a lot of MP to garrison it tho?
Japan needs serious rework Lmao
It actually doesnāt really use that much
And yes, high compliance can get like +30% or more noncore
So itās like adding 150 mil to your core
Either Japan or USA, Japan being the more likely one
me surviving the joint USSR UK invasion as Persia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBP6NXx9QtU
A cocky General Oro Dassyne muses about how many Jedi it would take to overrun his base. The answer may surprise him.
This scene is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in Star Wars. Taken from Chapter 22 of the 2D Clone Wars series
I canāt see there being a Pacific rework without a US rework
Same
The US really carried its weight hard in the pacific
Would be awesome to see actually good US tree
If it aināt Expansion Pass #2 in 2025 Iāll be so sad
Gonna have to actually play the other 200 games in my Steam library
USA rework better have a team America world police reference
US managed to go from losing Pacific to winning in just 6 months from pearl harbor, decimating enemy forces in 3 years
this
I wish my great grandfather was still alive
Because their industry eclipsed Japanās by a lot
Supplying all other allies and carrying western front at the same time
No other nation could match US industry at this point
he ended up having to fight a Tarawa
The US basically had the equivalent of like 60 dockyards if not more
he joined immeditly after Pearl Harbor
Compared to in game? Way more
Eh itās a shame
and was assinged to the USS South Dakota
Tbh I find it extremely easy to take the USA now
They were able to lay down and launch a liberty ship in just one day
Be it a unified South America, French Empire, British empire or Germany, the USA is a pushover
French Empire is medium on the priority list (for me at least)
no Spain or Italy war goals
true
It can war with Luxembourg now
but as Napoleonic war enthusiast its sad you can't have war goals on Spain, Portugal, Italy
and Turkey
Japanese soldiers strugling with supplies seeing US having ships dedicated to supplying their soldiers with ice creams 
battle of Imphal comes to mind
in which more Japanese soldiers died of starvation than combat
though they were fight the UK and RAJ
I know
If you compare the USās factory output to other countries itās insane
But oh you know Germany and Austria get +25% factory output š
By 1945, Russia tends to have 1k factories and the USA like 500
US paths when it gets reworked:
- Historical Path
- Updated Second American Civil War
- Alternate Democracy path(?)
- Some sort of monarchist path? IDK what this path would be.
- Communist path
- Maybe a military dictatorship path?
But US gets +5% from industrial company 
That war potential is 1938 btw
My opinion is that US shouldn't have an actual communist, fascist or monarchist/neutral alternative path but instead of that all should be put into different alternative democratic pathes
I disagree.
Yeah, but that would make sense and be realistic though.
There should be slight variations with right and left leaning in the politics. But if you want extreme civil war
This would be the ideal.
I feel
Just do a balance of power, left is left democrat, mid is moderate, right is conservative. Each which can do its own thing. But if you abandon senate then Monarchist, military junta, Fascism, and couple communisms after a civil war
I mean, there shouldn't be an option for Authoritatian goverment but more like democraticaly picked communist keeping with democratic system f.e.
Unless they finish a certain, end of tree focus that changes it
If you decide to stick with the constitution and maintain the senate yes
Otherwise civil war and extremism
Benefit of not going extreme obviously strong economy now and no civil war
USA is a country that actually makes sense to use the balance of power mechanics. Toss the jank house/senate mechanics.
What other countries would have stuff added alongside the USA and what new mechanics could they add to the game?
Senate is just āSacrifice PP for 5 years till you never worry about it againā
Philippines, Japan, Indonesia, Hawaii (wasnāt a state yet), Alaska (Wasnāt a state yet)
If anything, civil war should have long lasting effects, other than a bit worse economy and focus tree path that buffs you a lot
Agreed
I foresee a pacific update that does India, Japan, and USA reworks. Then probably a second one to add trees to the minors.
Japan and Philipines along with reworked navy (again) and production
And a US rework could easily be a major industry rework. As Iāve said before Iād like to see companies get a similar treatment to like MIOās or Special projects. Allow us to actually put company headquarters on the map and make resource investing more interesting
Also maybe Canada and Australia
Imagine putting down a corporate/factory center boosts max factories and factory building in a state
Maybe even countrywide buffs to production cost for specific things
Hawaii and Alaska sounds more like a meme
So bombing it would actually hurt the enemies war effort
Hawaii isnāt a meme at all. Could side with Japan against the USA for independence.
Giving Japan a jumping off place
Mostly useless for USA since states either have really low amount of building slots or have them maxed out
Still more of a meme than actual thing
Mostly useless to add building slots to states that never really get them? š
US states often get to max factories
And no industrial centers were a thing that were raided in WW2. Pretty much every country had industrial centers for key industries in the war
This isnāt a bad idea. Sort of like how China has their MIOs dependent on what provinces it controls.
And the US also needs a state rework bad
Reworked USA, reworked Mexico, Philippines, and Cuba would be my prediction.
Sorta, but instead that becomes an industrial center for a key industry. If working well would give a buff to like air production for instance. But if raised/bombed, would hurt that for as long as itās damaged
This actually happened all throughout WW2, especially in the USSR, Germany and Japan
They had major industrial centers bombed which gravely hurt their war effort
Yes
Would boost raids, make industry more dynamic, and add flavor
It wasn't long since Mexico got a tree and Cuba sounds like another meme
Idk what's with people wanting trees for minors like Cuba
Iād rather Hawaii and Phillipines than Cuba
I think the British commonwealth (minus India) will get reworked together, so the only somewhat āsignificantā nation connected to the US left would be Cuba.
US state borders arguably some of the worst state designs in the game tbh
Phillipines
Ah didnāt see it in that comment so thought you were saying only Cuba
You know with the new carribean formable, Cuba could be fun
Yeah, my reasoning for Cuba is mostly due to thinking Canada will be reworked alongside the rest of the Commonwealth countries, which basically just leaves Cuba as the only relevant nation that could go alongside the US, Mexico, and Philippines.
Since when Cuba is significant? The only reason i would call it significant is because of its resources, thats it
Watch the commonwealth countries get shared trees
Yeah idk about Cuba being significant. Even if it went fascist, took the carribean somehow, it would only ever act as a jumping off place for the axis into the US
Considering fact that they are reworking India outside of an actual Commonwealth DLC, i would assume that Australia, New Zealand or Canada might get reworked together with Japan, USA and Philipines since they had more impact on Pacific war
Feel theyād go more of a Malaysia, Siam, Indonesia route than Cuba imo
Though Southeast Asia probably will be a country pack
Most likely yeah
i found a gamebreaker bug. with belgium if you get to war with a country are you currently taking the decision to invite to the eu fraction the game will not remove the flag so are you get cocked out from the whole eu mechanic.
EU is very messy
I went EU path as like Hungary and instead of giving me a shared EU tree it gave me the Austro Hungary one
āSignificantā
Note the quotation marks
Its scrapper me belgium campaign
I put quotation marks for a reason
both of them are the same wtf
Do you want a German or a local
It is mostly flavor
Countries with non-generic division commanders:
Finland: 1
Hungary: at least 6
Agreed
Especially for the majors
Yeah
when Romania gets reworked they should have the option to ally with the Kaiserreich
because both the German and Romanian royal houses are the same dynasty BTW
British king, German emperor and Russian tsar were cousins, it didn't stop them from going to war in 1914
true but Germany needed Romania
for oil
Yeah, but did Romania needed Germany (it did cuz soviets xD)
after 1944 no
but before then yes
Romania was a monarchy
that was in a precarius postion
After 1944 goverment kinda changed in Romania, didn't it?
it became a Monarchy (again and briefly)
a Romania and little entente rework would be cool
Note: the only reason I ended up finding this out was due to not being able to find 3 of the people included in the art and achievements dev diary either in the already available pool of generals you have or mentioned as being recruited via the focuses. Then I checked the officers tab, saw one of those 3. Then I saw another guy that looked non-generic, looked him up, and yeah. Then I went to the 1939 start date, saw 3 more. Then looked up the St. Lazlo (or whatever it is called) division, and its commander was another guy from the art and achievements dev diary.
there is ment to be a difference as far as I know
one of them should give you more industry
and TBH factions and diplomacy need an overhaul
Who needs compliance when I can take their industry š£
degrelle š
Also hot take Mosley wouldnāt have cooperated with the nazis
Hitler may have been at his wedding but things changed
Doubt heād be a Nazi collaborator
Maybe someone like Joyce would make sense
anyone ?
Itās been 3 seconds since you asked that question Jesus Christ
Youāre not being ignored
Iām not answering though
eh
mainly focus trees for Germany, Hungary, Austria and Congo + special projects
so research revamp was free then
do you think the dlc is worth it ?
since the major feature like research revamp is free anyway
If you like the countries they added focus trees for
If you donāt then donāt bother
hard to tell, but i think that if you have all the other DLCs, it wouldn't hurt to get this one as well
I am only really interested in dlc that add new mechanism to game
especially if you like doing some funny stuff
This update did. They just didnāt paywall half of it this time
This is a dlc not a country pack lmao
TOA was rubbish but that was a country pack
guess I will skip this dlc then
or maybe grab it when is on discount
no major mechanism
I would recommend you pick it up in like a year on sale
free mechanism for once
Thermonuclear bombs, more special projects
funny special project is the main thing about this DLC imo
But yeah they did give the free players the special projects
I like them but tbh they wouldāve made more money paywalling them
some are base game and some are locked to no step back
they usually lock it behind paywall lol
NSB???
Typo I think
if the research revamp was in the dlc then probably better sales
True
they said that in change log that 2 special projects are for no step back
I do still like the dlc though
this DLC is one of the best, i changed my mind
I enjoy the countries
Didnāt know that
it's heavy railway artillery and flame tanks
too long lol
Ohh that makes sense
NSB added railway guns and tank designer so yeah
so dlc only add special project and no new mechanism?
Railway guns are slept on
Essentially yeah
ok ty
Pick it up on sale later in 2025 if you want to
I do recommend the new trees but itās no rush
probably will lol
but if is must have mechanism then have to buy it
I am surprised the research revamp is free
i think landmarks are a DLC thing
Wait for the whole update to be paywalled after GoE lmao
The Japan/China rework likely
cant remeber the last time when paradox released major mechanism revamp for free
at least thatās like 99% what theyāre gonna do
i hope that it will be Japan + USA rework
owns No step back, man the gun , together for victory , waking the tiger blood alone and army against tyranny
need to get la resistance lol
Has anyone else found that the japanese ai doesnt garrison the mainland anymore? It might be because i am convoy raiding between them and china, but you would expect them to be garrisoning nagasaki instead of death stacking in taiwan
I think it uses more of its army in invasions now
Which austrian path is peak
Historical
austrian empire
unless the czechs do there stupid czech entente path like 90% of the time
So non aligned
With the new nuclear fallout and attrition debuffs, the generals donāt want to move there and I have to do it manually. Have you noticed it? How do I solve it?
Also is there any support company that counters the intense fallout?
ye
USA canāt get a rework cause man the guns is still its own dlc
but germany got its rework and its focus tree was from waking the tiger and gotterdammerung bypasses it
Waking the tiger was integrated
then they gotta integrate man the guns
Yeah thatās what I meant
ah alr
Why this happen?
I'm actually tweaking rn why did it say i got pinged 3 times in this channel
that shit doesnt ever name spain after that
I don't really like it cause there's no focus tree for the Belgian government in exile or anything in Austria regarding the TIGR organization
If only
How do I add heavy howitzers to my divisions?
Support companies
Thank you. I obviously need to replace regular artillery.
same thing happened to me just reload save
Why not have both
Artillery+ heavy artillery+ sp heavy artillery š„°
its a shame otto von hapsburg didnt get a better pfp, he kinda looks dead with that stare lmao
maybe hollow is the better word
Found a problem with one of the spirits, This stays despite being a subject of germany
i get Slovakia from the Czechs and after Germany does fate of Czechoslovakia they just steal my land
Idk why that happens
When experimenting nuclear reactor? Should I go for the nuclear reactor building or Heavy water nuclear reactor building?
Never tried heavy water
Haven't tried either of them, but I would love to learn the benefits instead of playing for it myself.
I'm guessing you should do heavy water if you control Norway otherwise no
Hey guys, I got a quest about the new DLC GƶtterdƤmmerung. Do you know how to strenghen the facists in Hungary and Romania by the German Reich?
Or is that not possible anymore?
austria's not that bad but exiled governments would be cool especially for poland
I do not believe you can anymore.
Romania should be able to do so naturally and Horthy is unaligned now.
You can coup Hungary if they are losing though I believe
How do I get to jet technology with the new dlc
Iāve gotten jet engines but I can get to the next step
Same happened to me
Its bullshit man needs to be fixed asap
idk how they didnt test it
Thanks
𤣠Sanity check of British plane designs
the artillery / anti air swap pre civil war?
Could also be swapping from horse division to real divisions to rush anschluss
Anschluss in March 1936 is crazy
agreed
wtf since when is it division attack +50??????
should be +5 ( its actually +50 in the battle)
Where was this when i struggled in the highlands for two hundred hours
Thatās so broken lol
yeah I think that's a bug
don't remember seeing it last time I played
What will graveyard of empires add, is there a page on it?
Or is it too early to know anything
Focus trees for the Raj (And India)
Afghanistan
Iran
And Iraq
And yes there is a Steam Page
Is the new update save-compatible?
I donāt want to lose my 1949 Germany nuclear war game
No because of map changes and stuff, you will probably have to restart or downgrade your game back to the previous patch
Wait map changes?
new states