latest-updates

[thick edge]

Oh

That’s a dilemma

[fresh cedar]

We haven’t seen them all

[thick edge]

I will respectfully decline your offer

[fresh cedar]

Super Carriers and Super Sonic jets 😤

[thick edge]

How will it work

[pseudo wing]

end your bread blockade then

🔪

[thick edge]

Erm

🥐

Corisiant

[fresh cedar]

No idea, though the presence of mine clearing tanks tell me it’s a thing

[fresh cedar]

Just hug already

[rocky oasis]

He is an advisor, so I guess he is also a commander.

[thick edge]

Joe

I am a minor

U should delete that ngl

[daring forge]

Yeah

[dense moon]

These are the 2 I want the most

[pseudo wing]

i understand the sentiment but yeah is not a good thing there lmao

[polar bronze]

Freikorps 👀

[daring forge]

If you want to look up portraits you can always make the image black and white and reverse image search, works surprisingly well sometimes

[thick edge]

Yay

[fresh lily]

I love this

[daring forge]

Here’s the reference they probably used (but they seem to have aged him up a bit since he is 20 years older than this at game start)

[thick edge]

The state transfer tool should be Ironman compatible

[fresh cedar]

Rephrased, we’re good

[thick edge]

Trust

[pseudo wing]

Acceptable, thank you good sir

but also no, he bread blockaded me, I must fight

[thick edge]

Erm

Go south

Steal bread

[cosmic falcon]

Has the weight really been changed here?

[thorny sail]

Did they just took 4 T-34, put them together to a central structure & called it a landship?

[fresh lily]

Yes

[fresh cedar]

Those T-34s are massive and actually

Compare them to the plane

That plane should be a similar size to them

T-34 6 meters without barrel, that plan about 8.5 meters

Based off that scale, the T-34 is like 4x bigger than it should be

Kinda bizarre 😂

[thick edge]

Is that a double barrel KV-2 in the middle

Literal cranes

How does the plane take off

[fresh cedar]

I think the crane puts the plane in the ground

[thick edge]

I think the plane is a yak-9

[fresh cedar]

Or maybe that big thing next to it is a catapult

[thick edge]

The T-34 is around double its normal size

[fresh cedar]

I initially thought an La 5

[thick edge]

It’s normal length is around 20 feet

[exotic kelp]

watta the quack is THIS?

[dense gale]

its the same

[thick edge]

Plane is 28 feet

[fresh cedar]

Yak 8.5 M, T-34 without barrel 6 meters

Plan is around half the length of T-34

So 2x8.5

17/6

[thick edge]

Nope

[fresh cedar]

Nearly 3x

[thick edge]

La-5 has a large nose

Yak-9 for sure

[fresh cedar]

Yup

Agreed

[exotic kelp]

watta quack is that SUPER USSR TANK?

[thick edge]

I’m using it

I’m fielding 24

[thick edge]

Hitler is going to shit himself

[fresh cedar]

How will mines even be deployed

[thorny sail]

Even the KV-VI fake tank is more believable

[fresh cedar]

I would’ve preferred something like this tbh

[thick edge]

It looks cool

Not gonna lie

And I thought it would the the KV-4

[fresh cedar]

Legit never heard anything about mines till now

Is this why forts were nerfed?

[thick edge]

How will they work

[fresh cedar]

They don’t explain it’s literally just art

But I imagine defensively

Like maybe slow down units and add attrition to a tile/state

[thick edge]

Prob like sea mines

I know someone is putting mines in Bosnia

💀

[fresh cedar]

Just like real life

Yugoslavia 😍 a mines paradise

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/t90-t90ms-sprocket-tank-goodbye-gif-25622255

[solid gyro]

cant wait for the death star wonderweapon mod

i hope they are modable cause it could lead to alot of cool stuff

[fresh cedar]

Millenium Dawn 9/11 gonna be so toxic

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-sigma-sigma-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-i-dont-have-a-gif-for-this-gif-1885171871624852210

[fresh cedar]

Can’t even tell me they won’t use the new landmark system to do that

[thick edge]

Prank?

[fresh cedar]

Nukes, supersonic jets, super carriers gonna be the only special projects I normally use tbh

[thick edge]

Nuclear subs?

The thing

Most f these

Are late game

I lag in late game

[fresh cedar]

I don’t lag much so often play till 1960 bc nothing left to do

But not all are late game

Like flame tanks

[thick edge]

I have an apple computer too

So I can’t get new parts

[dense gale]

none of them are late game

[thick edge]

Entirely new pc

[dense gale]

u can get most of them by 1943

[thick edge]

Nukes?

[dense gale]

if u tech hard enuf

[dense gale]

1942

[fresh cedar]

ICBM’s and Thermonuclear should be late

[thick edge]

I get 10 FPS by then

[dense gale]

bo vid got them in 42

and they didnt even hard tech it

so basically everyone will have nukes now

truly the world macarthur envisioned

[fresh cedar]

They gotta scale that back a little then

[solid gyro]

i think they improved performance

said so atleast in one of the dev diaries

[thick edge]

The gotterdamerung takes the new fps away

It’s like paying a dollar for a dollar

[dense gale]

no net gain or loss

[solid gyro]

hoi4 has never had any issues for me the only thing is that the ai just stacks divs late game performance wise its always been fine

[dense gale]

which is a good thing

[dense gale]

could be worse

where it runs slower

[solid gyro]

can we talk about how ass the dlc name is

gotterdamerung

really

[thick edge]

Its name is twilight of gods

[solid gyro]

the best they could come up with

[fresh cedar]

Twilight of the Gods sounds 200x cooler

[solid gyro]

then name it that in english not german its goofy

[fresh cedar]

I get why it’s in German but English sounds way better

[thick edge]

Yah

I don’t mind it personally

[solid gyro]

every other dlc is in english why is this the exception lol

[fresh cedar]

Because German Wonderweapon and Germanic DLC

[solid gyro]

soviet dlc wasnt in russian

[fresh cedar]

Actually it did mostly take place in Russia

[solid gyro]

i think its just to appeal to larpers

cause they know its like 70% of there audience

[thick edge]

Let them have their name bro

U choose a name then

Make sure it’s not trademarked

[solid gyro]

Twilight of the gods

just in english

[thick edge]

That’s the same damn thing

[daring forge]

No it’s great actually

[fresh cedar]

Goo turd dam I’m hung

[solid gyro]

yeah and the way the guy who narrates the vids says it is also funny

[fresh cedar]

It’s crazy because Peter looks like a Vampire but sounds like Paddington

[daring forge]

Both a Wagner reference and thematically ties into the whole nukes and wonder weapon theme

[solid gyro]

still sounds goofy

[fresh cedar]

Just because it makes sense doesn’t necessarily make it cool

[daring forge]

Götterdämmerung is cool though

Doesn’t hit as hard translated

[fresh cedar]

Twilight of the gods V Gooturddamimhung

Hmmm

[daring forge]

Just because you can’t pronounce it doesn’t mean it’s bad 😤

[fresh cedar]

Actually can, took 4 years of German in college. Doesn’t make it any more impressive 😂

The 10 horse variants are sick

[solid gyro]

i took 3 years in middle school i hated it

[fresh cedar]

I’d just rather wait for a universal translator tbh

[fallen kite]

i mean you gotta
have resources to pour into the research
have an industry to build the nuclear research base
do the initial nuclear research in the tech area
generate enough nuclear breakthroughs to get the civilian reactor and the nuclear bombs
have the industry to build the reactors
eventually generate a nuke

[daring forge]

Uh oh

[fallen kite]

whereas before you had to:
research three (3) nuclear techs
have the industry to build the reactor
eventually generate a nuke

[dense gale]

its 1 civ

worth of construction

[fallen kite]

i mean if you want to build the 12000 cost building with 1 civ

and then do it again (multiple times if you want to get a nuke timely)

be my guest you've earned it

not to mention if you go to war and you aren't a big country you don't have the military or air force to defend from raids

[dense gale]

no

thats the cost of 1 civ u ape

[fallen kite]

yeah

[dense gale]

this means that literally everyone can build it

unless ur saudi arabia

[fallen kite]

you have to build the 12000 cost research center

[dense gale]

u have the civs to build it

[fallen kite]

then the nuclear reactors

[dense gale]

a civ factory is 12k ic

its way cheaper than nukes now lol

i dont get ur point

genuinely everyone can build it

[fallen kite]

Are you silly

You don’t just need the research center to get nukes

[leaden meadow]

Sorry if this question has been already answered many times but when is the new dlc coming out?

[daring forge]

Thursday

[leaden meadow]

Thanks you

[fallen kite]

In base game to get nukes you have to research 3 techs and build a reactor

[dense gale]

exactly

thats way harder lol

u know how many year ahead of time the nuke tech are

theres no ahead of time penalty on special research

[fallen kite]

Do you understand how long it takes to generate breakthroughs

[dense gale]

um clearly not long

when bo had it in 1942

[fallen kite]

Was he playing as Germany?

[dense gale]

no

[fallen kite]

Which country?

[dense gale]

usa

[fallen kite]

The country with Oppenheimer

The country who developed the atomic bomb first

[dense gale]

tehy also didnt hard tech it

u hard tech nuke as usa now

u get in in 43

[fallen kite]

They probably have a bonus to nuclear technology hidden in there somewhere

[dense gale]

also nuclear reactors cost right now

[dense gale]

yea thats with their research bonus

[fallen kite]

Maybe they just really buffed Oppenheimer as a scientist

[dense gale]

getting nukes is really easy now

[fallen kite]

It’s the USA

[dense gale]

no ahead of time

cheaper to build too

[fallen kite]

They have the biggest industry and a special nuclear researcher

[dense gale]

they are not the fastest btw

[fallen kite]

If anyone can build a ton of research centers and nuclear reactors it’s them

[dense gale]

raj and brazil and deafult nation gets it faster

[fallen kite]

Really now?

[dense gale]

yes

ur limited by tech

[fallen kite]

You know this how?

[dense gale]

because i play mp

[fallen kite]

Well

[dense gale]

the usa doesnt have this research

so they research slower

if u have a default nation on it

they get it way faster

current hoi nukes arnt limited by industry

but how fast u can research it

[fallen kite]

Okay

[dense gale]

and paradox just removed that barrier

[fallen kite]

What?

[dense gale]

no ahead of time

[fallen kite]

Resource costs too

[dense gale]

m8 how many nukes are u building lol

[fallen kite]

And it certainly won’t take a few days to do the nuclear research breakthrough thingies

[daring forge]

You still have to research nuclear tech to unlock the projects, no?

[solid gyro]

Germany can get nukes in 1942

[fallen kite]

Yeah

[solid gyro]

probably earlier if you speedrun

[dense gale]

usa doesnt even have good buffs for nukes

and they get it in 42

[rocky oasis]

Uh oh what? Who are they?

[daring forge]

Strasser and Kratzenberg, the latter being a leading collaborator in occupied Luxembourg

And leader of fascist Luxembourg if I read it correctly (which would make sense)

But strasser means he’ll definitely pop up somewhere

[rocky oasis]

Otto Strasser’s got drip.

[verbal urchin]

Im buying the Gotten DLC -
But I don't have either Trial of Allegiance or Arms Against Tyranny.

Which of those is a better fit for Gotten?

[solid gyro]

Arms Againsg Tyranny

It's adds International Market

Also

Someone has to strangle whoever decision it wad to not put the Valkyrie wings on a Hoodia or jacket

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/557554868416544778/1305926396862009384/GTD_-_80._3D_action.gif

I cannot wait to deploy Volksturm

erm what the sigma

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/volkssturm-hurrah-gif-12824942

[craggy cave]

Hydrogen bombs seem hella strong

[solid gyro]

Luxembourg tree confirmed?!?!

I think it's like Bolivia where they did all the leaders, an event, and maybe a decision or two

[daring forge]

yeah probs

we've seen all but charles as portraits iirc

saw dupong in a video, charlotte in the reddit QnA and kratzenberg in the DD

and something should be happening like eventwise since from what we've seen dupong doesn't start as leader (bech should be there)

and now they've shown of charles in the dd too

[exotic kelp]

1 day and 23 hrs left till GDR releases

[solid gyro]

So we can pretty much say luxembourg will be a hidden tree like iceland then?

No

Look at Bolivia

It had leaders a special event and a decision

Luxembourg will resemble that

[pseudo wing]

There is no Luxembourg tree

we have already stated this

[solid gyro]

Oh yeah true kinda forgot bolivia got those tbh

[stable tusk]

Well yeah, that's the point of them

[polar jasper]

I can't believe they even removed the generic tree from Luxembourg 😞

[pseudo wing]

deleting the country rn

[stable tusk]

Rip Luxembourg bros

[solid gyro]

A sad day for all the world conquest theories as luxembourg

[kindred beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1gpkm6h/literally_antigerman_polish_resistance_fighter/
Suggestion: The RK decisions should not always use default fascist leaders for the local collaborator leaders. The Polish fascist who can lead the General Government was an anti-German resistance fighter during the war. I think Ukraine uses Stepan Bandera, even though his OUN fought both the Nazis and Soviets.

Poland - could use Waclaw Krzeptowski, who led a collaborationist group in southern Poland's mountainous regions. The Germans declared his province "aryan" "Goralenvolk" as part of a germanization policy

[daring forge]

Ukraine does not use Bandera iirc

[kindred beacon]

Thought it did

Hopefully they did not, Stepan Bandera was literally imprisoned by the Gestapo for fighting Germans

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1gpe8xc/new_french_fascist_leader/
France actually has a new fascist leader - Marcel Bucard

cool

[rocky oasis]

It uses some Cossack leader that sided with the Germans. Probably not the most likely candidate in reality, but it is someone who was a collaborator.

[kindred beacon]

It makes sense

IRL the Nazis wanted to divide up Russia and Ukraine into new nationalities so they couldn't rise up against Germany

Rosenberg wanted to make a Cossack nation state in the Donbass region

[solid gyro]

Is this from the focus tree or the RK?

[kindred beacon]

I think focus tree

France still get vichy event if they fall

[worn depot]

Why do the colors like the ideology pie chart look faded/desaturated

[daring forge]

Because the image is desaturated

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t realize Super Carriers and Minesweeping tanks would be a thing. Surprised by that

[worn depot]

But why was it desaturated?

[daring forge]

No clue

But it was

[digital mural]

Lo Luxembourg tree? 😭

[terse viper]

are we getting something extra if we reserve the new dlc instead of buying it on release date?

[digital mural]

No*

[digital mural]

I think yes

Some songs

Like AAT did

[terse viper]

oh

and will there be a discount on relase date or not?

[solid gyro]

I think you only get the song if you preorder

Or buy the pass

[digital mural]

Exact

[digital mural]

Idk

But I prefer buying the expansion pass than separate DLCs

[jaunty yacht]

Sadly, no

[digital mural]

And also are they deleting the generic one too?

[fresh cedar]

Luz getting new leaders potentially though

[jaunty yacht]

Probably

[worn depot]

I didn’t see anything about any pre order songs for the Germany dlc

[digital mural]

No focuses???!!! 😭😭😭

[solid gyro]

Command and conquer ahh

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-tanks-red-alert3-red-alert3tanks-soviet-tanks-invades-europe-red-alert3soviet-tanks-gif-25380566

[thick edge]

I’m building so many of these tanks

[fresh cedar]

Expansion pass comes with Ride of the Valkyrie’s. It’s not a preorder as the expansion pass will be out for a long time. As long as you get the expansion pass you get it

[thick edge]

Imagine getting one encircled

[worn depot]

Yeah that’s why I questioned it

[fresh cedar]

Are these American?

Feel the first definitely is

Bc the planes

But the second?

[thick edge]

The 2nd one

Looks French

Getting charB1 vibes

[fresh cedar]

Kinda agree

[thick edge]

Char B1 - Wikipedia

Damn

One sec

lol

[fresh cedar]

Oh IK that tank lol

[thick edge]

Yuh

[solid gyro]

The second one looks like the American heavy tank

[fresh cedar]

Which American heavy tank?

[fresh cedar]

The M6?

I can kinda see it ig

The turret and frontal chassis gun though

If anything looks more like

[solid gyro]

The wall

[digital mural]

Airport tanks 💀

[solid gyro]

What's the point of building regular submarines now that everyone can get cruiser submarines?

[digital mural]

Tank carrying planes 💀

[fresh cedar]

Cruiser subs are only good early game imo

I still prefer sub 3/4

But feel like they’ll be different now

I think you can get nuclear powered subs too

[solid gyro]

You can get sub visibility down to 0.1 💀

[fresh cedar]

Possibly lower

[thick edge]

I swear to god it’s a T3E1

Smth spelled like it

https://external-preview.redd.it/8K0yQUgwNMIA8AJMbQ0YTgk_MtucyX7vq8kjamm_U9o.jpg?auto=webp&s=ff85dedf4e605a5f74554748841ea30dc44ef9d0

T1

The m-26 is a perusing

Pershing

[thick edge]

Tog 3

I hate it

[knotty wyvern]

I got a dumb quesstion but has it been made clear what will be included in the free update ?

[thick edge]

I think better AI

Few more historical Germany focuses

[trim quartz]

They fixed him

[thick edge]

Omptimization update

(Game runs faster)

And leader for Luxembourg

[knotty wyvern]

since the update doesn't seem to add a lot alot

[stable tusk]

Wonders

Special Projects

[knotty wyvern]

like ngl a bit disapointing

[thick edge]

I don’t know really

[worn depot]

I think they said the performance is largely the same

[thick edge]

Yes

And besides

Gotterdamerung will erase it

Like paying a dollar for a dollar

[knotty wyvern]

like ngl i find the idea for the DLC intesting

but well

like all paradox games the bang for your buck ehhhh

[worn depot]

Well it’s better to not bite off more than you can chew

[knotty wyvern]

are you saying that about the performance or ?

[thick edge]

No

[modest flare]

i feel like the nazis should have some restriction to building nukes because irl they didn't want to iirc]

[solid gyro]

I think there was a dev diary

[worn depot]

The features, reworking Germany is a huge task to take, so if they also added loads of features it could’ve made the focus trees not as good

[knotty wyvern]

yea and i was just asking what part of the whole update i the free bit ? i gues i'll wait before hand

[worn depot]

That I don’t know

[worn depot]

And I was referring to this when I meant bite off more than they could chew

[knotty wyvern]

but that weird south american DLC still has some sour taste in me, i openly kinda wanna see the regular update

[knotty wyvern]

and i was referring to the free update not seeming to add a lot but well not sure if here is the right place to discuss that

[worn depot]

Ahhh

[solid gyro]

I'll never buy the Brazil dlc lol

[knotty wyvern]

do link me if you want

[worn depot]

Yeah honestly I don’t know the free features

[knotty wyvern]

i bought it played one game and decided nah

ngl that DLC is one of the worst ever, and that is saying a lot

[solid gyro]

I knew I'll never play south America since 2016

Paying 15$ for countries I never play as, and never invade

[knotty wyvern]

yea, also added no mechanics nothing of vallue was lost

[solid gyro]

The dlc just makes Brazil a major country which is a pain in the ass

[knotty wyvern]

hence why i wanna know what is in the free update, before i get the expansion pack

[solid gyro]

But this is a proper dlc, not just a country pack like Brazil dlc

Middle east dlc is gonna be like the Brazil dlc but way more convenient

[knotty wyvern]

yea i am curious even if i will keep to the point that the prices of the DLC's are getting out of hand

[stable tusk]

Why does Strasser look like that? He looks comically evil or just insane (Both of which actually kinda make sense tbh)

[prisma wing]

Average german drunker

[digital mural]

Also even when you play them you end up feeling as shut and asking yourself what are you doing with your live

[digital mural]

Why Strasberg there? Wasn’t he eliminated before 1936?

[stable tusk]

It's Otto Strasser

[digital mural]

Yeah but I typed wrong

Wasn’t he killed before 1936?

[stable tusk]

He was still alive, his brother was the one removed

Otto lived until the 1970s

Gregor was killed in the 30s

[bleak wing]

Yoo dudes official HOI4 merch just dropped

Look at HOI4 insta account

shit getting real

[pale horizon]

not faster but , doesn't lose performance with the added content

[solid gyro]

I wonder if Helicopters will be useful

[solid gyro]

luxemburg is confirmed as a focus tree

[solid gyro]

honestly i would say historical paths for germany and hungary

maybe landmarks too

[daring forge]

at least the german historical tree is free

[daring forge]

*confirmed not to have one like fifty times

[fallen rivet]

Hungary no

Hungary stays the same

If u dont have dlc

[near coral]

luxembourg got bolivia treatment

[worn depot]

yeah but bolivia didnt get a focus tree

[near coral]

yeah exactly

[worn depot]

I do remember hearing something about Liechtenstein though

[near coral]

nah no way

they aint making liech

[worn depot]

honestly im questioning myself as to if the devs are like joking or no

[thick edge]

No?

[burnt sail]

I think its gonna get something like Paraguay or Uruguay

[jaunty yacht]

I think it's more of an alternative Austria, like the Vatican in BBA

[daring forge]

They’ve shown it off, there’s not really much to speculate on

[near coral]

yeah

i guess

that could happen

[polar bronze]

Probably not

Unless transport has significant bonuses in movement

[stable tusk]

They said historical Germany, yes
Historical Hungary, no

All the free stuff (To my knowledge)

• Historical Germany (Including RKs and Inner Circle)
• Landmarks
• (Some) Special Projects
• Raids
• The AI Changes

[solid gyro]

The most disappointing thing about Hungary is it not being able to switch sides

[tacit sequoia]

Germans invaded Hungary before they can switch sides, then the Soviets invaded them.

[dusky loom]

I still believe there should have been a focus for that because I’m pretty sure Germany can stop king michaels coup by having divisions in Romania’s capital

so why not for Hungary

[polar jasper]

That's modded

In game, Romania just flips

Nothing Germany can do besides invade them

[marsh sparrow]

i must ask the devs, if any are paying attention here.

Does training increase world tension in the new dlc?

[rapid dagger]

for hungary and germany how will the non dlc content be like

will germany still be able to go alt history and will hungary still have content?

[solid gyro]

theres an achievment to get charles marx as a leader and conquer belgium

and trier

currently you cant get him as a leader

[lavish imp]

only historical path

at least for germany

[stable tusk]

Germany historical will be updated
Alt history will stay the same
Hungary will stay the same

[digital mural]

Luxembourg achievement??!!!!

Luxembourg getting content? New leaders?!!!

[inland mason]

Haha, WTF is this 💀

[tiny karma]

@solar wigeon

[solid gyro]

I was hoping someone would make this

[sweet umbra]

So what will be the official release time of the upcoming DLC? I mean it's precise, not just the date

[barren tusk]

The dlc is dropped Thursday 0:00?

Tomorrow

[trim quartz]

Pretty sure it’s 1am like all the dev diaries

[open vault]

I WANT IT NOW

[solid gyro]

18 central European time

Less than 33 hours to go

[open vault]

NO

THEY PUSHED IT 1 DAY

NOO

or its cause of tiime zone

[solid gyro]

Time zone for me its still the 14th

[open vault]

still sucks 😔

i gotta wait 1 whole day and 8 hours

basically 2 days of wake time

at least 12am isnt too bad

i can play till morning 🤑

hoi4 grind

[solid gyro]

Do you live in Australia or something

Fr once its here i will play it none stop to learn the new mechanics and to see the new focuses for them

[open vault]

SG but its same as west australia

[solid gyro]

Oof

[open vault]

when trial of allegience dropped i played like 100h in 1 week just hoi4

[past anvil]

im confused, do we have to buy the expansion pass or the dlc itself?

what does the expansion pass even do

[open vault]

u can buy both

[solid gyro]

How tf

[open vault]

but expension pass has other dlcs

[past anvil]

whats the difference?

[open vault]

but release dates are all seprate

and 20% cheaper

of all

[open vault]

20% discount

[past anvil]

ohhh, expansion pass gives u all the dlcs?

[open vault]

and you get on release

[solid gyro]

The pass has all the stuff in it which they have annouced like graveyard of empires and götterdämmerung

[open vault]

yes

[past anvil]

the prices are almost the same for me which made me confused

[open vault]

it also gives some unit packs

[open vault]

also u only need to wait for gdr and some other

unit packs and music

is on purchase

its already out

[solid gyro]

What jokage said if you get it then you dont need to buy it seperate

[open vault]

and its cheaper

by 20%

[past anvil]

so, does it make more sense for me to get expansion pass?

[solid gyro]

Yes way cheaper that way

[past anvil]

why would anyone just buy the dlc seperate in this case then lol

[dense jacinth]

22 USD? IS 50 AUD?!

[solid gyro]

Yeah there's no point buying the dlc alone

[open vault]

ye

[solid gyro]

You get so much more for so much little

[open vault]

usd prices dropped i think

[solid gyro]

No idea why some buy it seperate the pass is really the best option cause then you dont have to wait for graveyards of empires since you already own it

[open vault]

cause it also jumped for sgd

the difference wasnt so big

awhile back

i bought my keyboard for 90 usd it was like 120 sgd

[past anvil]

wait? focus tree for afghanisthan is included in the expansion pass??

[vagrant vigil]

Why is there a luxembourg dlc

[solid gyro]

Yes its in it

[dense jacinth]

When the next dlc comes out it will get one

[open vault]

why NOT

[vagrant vigil]

I mean achievement

[dense jacinth]

with the expansion pass you get it straight away

[solid gyro]

Just not active

[past anvil]

so.. I spend less and get a future dlc for free?

[open vault]

focus tree drp

[daring forge]

The pass will give you Graveyard of Empires when it releases (a country pack like ToA) and an art pack as well as Götterdämmerung for a bit cheaper than buying them all separately

[dense jacinth]

Yes

The price of that dlc is inculded in the expansion pass

[past anvil]

whats the catch

[open vault]

i want grave yard the most

i want persia

[dense jacinth]

However as an fyi it is an expansion pass so only focus tress so no new mechanics

[open vault]

https://tenor.com/view/kasaneteto-teto-iran-iranian-persian-gif-11795378552695767812

[solid gyro]

The graveyard dlc wont be out till the 1Q next year

[vagrant vigil]

least nationalistic Persian

[dense jacinth]

there is no catch, you are just buying them both at the same time for a discounted price

[open vault]

im not persian

[daring forge]

Ig that content’s not out yet, but it’s standard bundle stuff

[open vault]

i just want the focus tree

[vagrant vigil]

Oh uh shit

[past anvil]

fire

[open vault]

its just for us early birds

[past anvil]

when does the expansion pass offer expire?

[open vault]

future hoi4 players

gotta pay full price 😆

[open vault]

when all dlcs drop

so Q3 2025

[past anvil]

oh so its around for like a year still?

untill graveyard of empires is released

[open vault]

nope

last one is actually prototype vehicles

so 2025 Q3

or till august

expansion pass 2 im calling it first half japan and asia 2nd part oceania/africa

[past anvil]

yea ill wait for the winter sales in that case

[daring forge]

It’ll most likely not go on sale

[quartz anvil]

Dev already said that some urban combat rework will be made alongside the GoE DLC. Probably in a free patch, but at least some changes not only for Focus Trees will come together.

[open vault]

i bought hoi4 and dlcs full price 🤷‍♂️

but it is what it is

[daring forge]

Since it’s so new

[past anvil]

I live in turkey, before they updated special country prices I bought all the dlcs 😭

[solid gyro]

Expansion pass 3 will be either the other american nations or something different

[open vault]

GDR coming with free update

[past anvil]

it was like 230 lira for each

which is less than 7 usd xd

[open vault]

i hope it would be reform

like this one reforms 2 older dlcs

which they intergrated into the game

so i want em to rework bosphorus

[past anvil]

fr, only the bulgarian focus is good

[solid gyro]

Yeah turkey was really wasted potential i am still kinda angry about that

[open vault]

greece and turkey focus tree is old old back when hoi4 wasnt as good at focus tree making

[past anvil]

everything else is mid

[open vault]

i want them to have italy/soviet/polish level focus trees

[solid gyro]

Because the dlc was outsourced

[past anvil]

as a turk im so confused as to why all the paths lead u to chp party for a while 😭

why are the communists and facists both chp? that wasnt true at all

[quartz anvil]

Yes, I know.
Not talking about this DLC, but about next one.

[daring forge]

BftB isn’t integrated though

[open vault]

ye

ik

i said

i hope they do

in expansion 3

expansion 3 will be near 2028

[solid gyro]

No idea thats why i hope they rework it aswell in the future

[past anvil]

also the lack of industry, u have to rely on invesments which can be just anti air and infastructure lol

[open vault]

also i hope expansion 2 does mongolia china and japan together and make korea a puppet

[past anvil]

makes turkey really boring to play

[open vault]

and 2nd half be rest of oceania/africa

ethiopia liberia saf

needs rework

[solid gyro]

Since germany gets more depth now which will have alot of content for many years now cause lets be real 300 to 400 is something you wont finish in a day or week

[open vault]

and egypt needs to be added

[open vault]

i think they adding egypt

one day

[solid gyro]

Fr

[open vault]

for africa updatre

[past anvil]

the kaiserreich path seems fire, but it will take so long to get anything done

[open vault]

they added congo

so egypt might come

[daring forge]

Ethiopia is BBA, that’ll be forever or never until it’ll get integrated

[open vault]

they can do a free update 🤷‍♂️ it has been done

[solid gyro]

I am also looking forward since they are two different kaiserreich versions now

[daring forge]

I’d rather that focus on the early bad content, there’s plenty to do

[open vault]

they dont have to intergrate

to update

dlc can be updated alone

[daring forge]

But what would they feasibly update

[open vault]

ye

did u not follow

[daring forge]

I did

[open vault]

im talking about after expansion 2

which we guess is japan

and asia

[daring forge]

I just don’t get what you want out of Ethiopia

[open vault]

im talking about making a new africa DLC that reforms most african nations and gives free ethiopia update

[daring forge]

Egypt makes more sense for Arabia imo

[open vault]

cause ethiopia tree especially communist too tardy

[open vault]

arabia in graveyard of empires

so

grp egypt with africa

[daring forge]

No only iraq is

The rest aren’t being worked on

[open vault]

well they didnt announce luxemburg content

and luxemburg

is almost 100% getting focus now

[daring forge]

No?

[open vault]

cause luxemburg achievement dropped

[daring forge]

They’ve said no like fifty times

[open vault]

luxemburg got a achievement

[daring forge]

Siberian Tiger

[open vault]

no way achievement

but no focus

[solid gyro]

Major dlcs will be reworking countries which were integrated to the main game, county packs will focus on minor nations without focus trees

[daring forge]

Tuva doesn’t have a tree

[open vault]

the achievement is focus related

[daring forge]

No

[open vault]

it has special poltical leader

[daring forge]

Its leader related

[open vault]

its charlie marx

[daring forge]

It’s most likely getting the Bolivia treatment

They’ve even shown them with the generic tree

And said time upon time again they’re not getting a focus tree

[open vault]

eitherway

i want a luxemburg focus

[daring forge]

Then you’ll either have to wait a while or make one

[dense jacinth]

What if they have just been lying to us

[trim quartz]

There is not going to be a Luxembourg focus tree

[past anvil]

b

[past anvil]

I mean.. tannu tuva has an achievement

but no focus tree

[open vault]

we can hope

[past anvil]

what focus tree do u expect from luxembourg man 😭

tbh no need for any new game mechanics, just new and better focus trees are enough to enjoy the game more imo

like for graveyard of empires

[exotic kelp]

1 day and 7 hrs till Full release of the new Dlc expansion

[balmy glade]

We can just hope the dlc will be good

[exotic kelp]

alr

i hope so too

[void nacelle]

it better be good

[balmy glade]

If they mess it up it can't be that bad right?

[void nacelle]

i bought that 1 whole month ago

[balmy glade]

Yeah bought the preorder first day

[mellow rapids]

i am completely hyped

[balmy glade]

I was excited for the Deutschland focus tree

[void nacelle]

bro fr

[mellow rapids]

i will play and OG german histo run today ...a last one

don't want to play austria hungary anymore XD

[balmy glade]

I done a run a few days ago with elite diff and all enemies buffed

[mellow rapids]

My interest for the dlc are Germany > Austria > Hungary > Belgium > Congo

i hope a secre HRE path for germany, and i wonder how we will get the kaiserin now

[balmy glade]

Yeah pretty much the same but I whould put hubgary last

[mellow rapids]

i think hungary was already pretty fency

[balmy glade]

I wonder what Seelow heights mod will do with the new focus tree

[exotic kelp]

were getting closer to Full release each hour

[mellow rapids]

but the dlc change a lot of thing...but hungary will just form ...Austria hungary and greater hungary

it just make the way to do it better

[balmy glade]

I have a friend who already has it. Watched him play, Seemd cool...

[mellow igloo]

when will the dlc released?

also in time zones.

[void nacelle]

broo what

[mellow rapids]

Yeah

some youtuber get it like 1 day before

to showcase the content

[mellow rapids]

in like 31h

[mellow igloo]

in which tmz?

[balmy glade]

Yeah so the ducking Land cruiser costs around 350 PC

[daring forge]

All of them

[mellow igloo]

what...

[daring forge]

18 Stockholm time tomorrow

[balmy glade]

Its like insane, but it has insane stats for one tank

[daring forge]

It releases in 31 hours no matter the time zone

[balmy glade]

Yeah

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-genius-math-mega-brain-tek-gif-27194141

[pale horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/just-one-just-one-more-day-one-more-day-just-one-more-minions-gif-11952025

[trim quartz]

I want it now!

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[tiny karma]

https://tenor.com/view/india-incredible-india-indian-culture-india-love-namaste-gif-474665872408220118

[thick edge]

Just change ideology’s I’m guessing

Go commie

[balmy glade]

MAN IMAGINE GIVING CONGO A FOCUS TREE, AND NOT GIVING ONE TO LUXEMBURG AS WELL.

[thick edge]

My poor poor resources

[barren tusk]

Wait you have early access?

HOI4 players after the gotten burg DLC is released:

When Country pack sneak peeks?

[thick edge]

Yes yes yes

[barren tusk]

Why you have this privilege?

[thick edge]

They can’t resist Loafsed Stalin

[barren tusk]

Because you are white?

[thick edge]

I’m him

[barren tusk]

Impressions?

Do you feel a fresh air?

[thick edge]

Nope

[barren tusk]

ª

[thick edge]

I’m just sad I watched videos on the dlc

[barren tusk]

Not gonna lie no Germany will be more fun to play with my choices

[thick edge]

Now I’m spoiled

[barren tusk]

You literally got spoiler in the trailer even 💀

[thick edge]

It’s a trailer

It’s meant to edge you

Show u

But not show u

[barren tusk]

Anyway play Germany or hungry is more fun

[void nacelle]

bro i lowk dont wanna watch the videos

i wanna experience it myself

[thick edge]

Same

[stiff cosmos]

we need japan rework also, we need expansion includes egypt, saudi arabia and syria

[solid gyro]

🤦‍♂️

[pastel aurora]

Is there Die Glocke and Haunebu as wonder weapon ?

[thick edge]

We aren’t wondering that much

No

We are not having flying saucers and time travel

The Glocke is too far

[solid gyro]

Mod day 1

[pastel aurora]

🥲 should be there as an Easter egg like the fourth reich

[solid gyro]

Well the fourth reich is in vanilla but only as argentina i think

When the H-man survives that is

[thick edge]

I’m dropping a H-bomb on the H-man

(Sorry, joke had to made)

[solid gyro]

Its fine lol i did find it funny tbh

[solid gyro]

I think you can form it without Adolf

[solid gyro]

You can? i tried it multiple times and i didnt get the option maybe i forgot something

[pastel aurora]

The 4. Reich is vanilla but I thought they would put these myth weapons in as a joke like the reich

[obtuse ingot]

Antarctica as a Special German project

[solid gyro]

Nvm you still need Adolf but you can switch the leader afterwards

[thick edge]

Create a continent

Imagine fighting there

The supply

[obtuse ingot]

Südlichefestung

“Southern Fortress”

[thick edge]

North fortress?

East?

West?

[gray dragon]

Is the DLC today or tomorrow?

[thick edge]

Tomorrow

6pm Swedish time tomorrow

[gray dragon]

Thanks

[thorn lake]

can you convert that to EST? would the date be the same?

[fading walrus]

Pannotia

home of the Western and Eastern Pannottian Empires

[thick edge]

Noon tomorrow

[fading walrus]

12:00 pm

est

[thick edge]

Just Google it

[fading walrus]

thoughts on the continent I created

[thick edge]

Mid

Needs more lore

[fading walrus]

I have alot of lore for it

one of the few nations to survive the era of change both physically and instiunally

is a parlamentrialy monarchy

defender of humanity against non human threats from the south pole

[thick edge]

Will there be a new console command for special projects?

Like autocomplete?

Or like “roic” research one upon click?

[cyan venture]

Mah duddes 9 hour ans 18 minute left!

[dense gale]

research on icon click should work

since it seems the tsch are still in research screnn

just unresearchable

[thick edge]

Ok

36 ICBM’s hear I come

[solid gyro]

Researchall or whatever unlocks special projects as well

[cyan venture]

HOI4 new dlc will be fun

[thick edge]

Yay

Delete that before Chak sees

[cyan venture]

:3

[cyan venture]

Sees what XD

[thick edge]

U wanting to do war crimes

There we go

[cyan venture]

Xd

I be interested how many rocket i can send before the economy of my enemy collapses

[solid gyro]

Rockets are pretty much the same as before unless it's ICBM

[loud fog]

So is case Anton finally fixed in the new DLC

[cyan venture]

Yes possibly but now you will can raid strategic points aka dirrect attack it if i good understaned the raid part

[plucky crag]

Nah it is better tbh because we have srbm, mrbm and icbm also cruise missile v1

Also rocket AA

[cyan venture]

Who which economy buildings gonna raid first?

I belive i will targwt the military factories if it will be possible

So no weapon can created to enemy

[plucky crag]

Idk target almost everything you can if you are a major

[cyan venture]

I possible will test Hungary

[lofty ermine]

do we know what time its being released

[prisma wing]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-ishowspeed-gif-1290931606264393136

[cyan venture]

I hope with midnight if we lucky

But not time yet

[tacit sequoia]

Man, Czechoslovakia needs a better tree… hope it gets one after the next major dlc with Romania and possible Yugoslavia.

[weary whale]

we do check the steam dlc page and click the dlc

its gonna release in 1 day and 2 hours

[patent roost]

So 26 hours?

[weary whale]

yeah

[tacit sequoia]

Next one maybe Japan and possible USA rework with political and ideological overhaul (since hoi4 has to rework ideologies and politics)

[jovial furnace]

💀 rip to my germany runs

[cyan venture]

Yep

[weary whale]

its still not that hard to break trough

[tacit sequoia]

Not really if you know how to naval invade with tanks, or powerful divisions

[cyan venture]

Naval invade with tanks?

[tacit sequoia]

Yeah you can do that

[cyan venture]

What da hail

[weary whale]

just watch one of the early access videos playing germany

[weary whale]

and you get a sea lion boost with a focus i think

[cyan venture]

What do you guys think what bonuses the heavy artillery will give

[pseudo wing]

probably bonuses

...to artillery

of the heavy variety

[weary whale]

Maybe against forts

[cyan venture]

I am hyped maaannnn

[cyan venture]

Or maybe will give hard attack

[exotic kelp]

What the quack why is the land cruiser ONLY a SC?

[cyan venture]

I already have plans for new infantry 12 infantry 2-3 artillery armored enginer and assasult group and maybe heavy artilery

Oh and recons

[thorny shell]

one question

will the Alt-History paths for Germany, and the entire Hungarian Focus Tree be free?

as most people did already pay for them + its integrated into the game

[cyan venture]

The old Hungary tree be free the new possible just with dlc

[thorny shell]

scam..

[weary whale]

alt history germany is not free i think

[thorny shell]

a tho it dosent mention anything about the old-focus tree so im not certain

[thorny shell]

😔

[cyan venture]

As death of dishonor already integrated

[thorny shell]

so its a similar situation with Poland really? or Italy

maybe just give us the DLC Historic Branch for Hungary and make the rest DLC locked if Germany gets that treatment too

[weary whale]

they might do that

[thorny shell]

better than retaining the old focu stree

[cyan venture]

But i can suggest the three mont sub as is around 15 eur for now cause 33% off

[weary whale]

I wonder how will the new german focus tree work without the dlc. Will the special projects be free too? German focus tree has alot of special project related focuses

[cyan venture]

By the way is be part of the already subscriber players as mine only will end at 24th

[pseudo wing]

If you are asking if GDR is going to be on the subscription, then yes it will be

day 1

[cyan venture]

Yey!

[cyan venture]

So i gonna get as update already when is out

I talk about the subscription not the expansion pass

[thorny shell]

it will probably be part of that too Day 1

[pseudo wing]

I am aware you are asking about the subscription

All major DLC's and country packs will be on the subscription day 1, the only things that aren't on the subscription are any content creator packs or I believe the music tracks (including preorder songs)

[willow willow]

ALARM

https://tenor.com/view/be-doo-be-doo-minion-despicable-me-alert-warning-gif-11970734646175466629

https://tenor.com/view/smash-a-new-foe-has-appeared-challenger-approaching-gif-16334728

stalin exiled to georgia

;D

[cyan venture]

Oh thanks for examplain :3

[solid gyro]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[solid gyro]

Question i am not sure if it was answered already but what happens when germany gets split into east and west? will both of them get the new tree or will they have the generic one?

BEST FEATURE OF THE UPDATE

[fresh cedar]

I’d never buy a subscription for any game lol

[weary whale]

its still not very hard to sea lion

[fresh cedar]

If I can’t own it I don’t want it

[solid gyro]

it should be very hard a challenge

i hope this means japan will also defend their island

[weary whale]

i think you get a focus that helps you with sea lion

[fresh cedar]

I imagine so. If you start as Germany disunified you can work to unify it

[willow willow]

yup

80+% sure

[fresh cedar]

Wonder how Britain will defend the its land now

[solid gyro]

I see good to know, thanks

[weary whale]

and you should check one of the videos from people who got early acces that show them doing sea lion

[fresh cedar]

I’d rather not spoil such things

[weary whale]

just expect that germany will be pretty overpowerd

[glad whale]

exactly whats happened in the previous two DLCs

[fresh cedar]

Hasn’t Germany always been overpowered? Early game snowballing is pretty much the most OP thing and it’s always been best at it

[weary whale]

yeah

mefo bill rework is pretty interesting

[glad whale]

yup

[fresh cedar]

MEFO won’t really impact my world conquering much I don’t think

[weary whale]

did you watch the dev diary that explained the mefo bill

[fresh cedar]

Yup

I conquer quite fast, won’t really impact me

[ancient meteor]

Do we have any idea what clock time the DLC comes out?

[weary whale]

that was about 44 minutes ago

[fresh cedar]

Hyped about this

[glad whale]

still says 2 hours

[fresh cedar]

They release 12:00 PM EST

So 11/14/24 12:00 PM EST

[weary whale]

for me its 6 PM

[glad whale]

CET gang

[polar bronze]

So excited!

[fresh cedar]

If you conquer stuff you negate it. So just gotta be successful. Image once the UK, France and USA are gone you can just rid of economy of conquest bc resource requirement met

[polar bronze]

Just gotta get through today and tomorrow

[weary whale]

yeah but if one thing does not go according to plan its gonna be bad

[glad whale]

id say UK france and USSR but im not sure how much resources are in every country so

[fresh cedar]

I have it pretty down to a science in SP. MP is another story

[polar jasper]

Took their time to get this fixed lol

[fresh cedar]

Well if you beat Allies before US entry can easily beat US. Feel like it would be enough resources by then

[polar jasper]

Truly peace foe our time

[weary whale]

Multiplayer with the nuclear missiles is going to be insane

[glad whale]

yup

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully Italy can’t escape being a collab government anymore

[glad whale]

hopefully they fix the thing where if you lose core territory you lose the BP thing over time even if you regain it (or if they already patched it idk)

[fresh cedar]

I wonder how they changed Mutapa

[fresh cedar]

BP thing?

[glad whale]

balance of power

[weary whale]

I cant wait to nuclear missile every single spot in USA

[fresh cedar]

Oh

[solid gyro]

Georgia now has a unique leader

[fresh cedar]

Hate that mechanic tbh

[solid gyro]

Idk how to get them

[solid gyro]

It's worse cause you can get big nukes by 1943

[fresh cedar]

If Soviet Union gets in civil war, Georgie breaks off and Stalin loses, he becomes leader of Georgia

[weary whale]

yeah

[solid gyro]

Ohhh

[fresh cedar]

Feel they’ll nerf that

[solid gyro]

I hope not

[weary whale]

but you gotta rush to get them

and the big nukes are absolutely devastating

[polar jasper]

Epic

[cyan venture]

Yup

[thick edge]

Sad

I alr struggle

[fresh cedar]

Nukes shouldn’t be a thing till mid 1944 imo

[cyan venture]

Unless you rush it

[exotic kelp]

1 day left till the new dlc expansion releases

[tacit sequoia]

Was there any cancelled tree paths for the dlc?

[fresh cedar]

Completely disagree, shouldn’t be a thing till 1944 even with a rush. Without rush and buffs from focuses should be 1946-1950

[vale rover]

💀

[fresh cedar]

I love that they’re still reworking formables

[fresh cedar]

The US did “rush” it in real life

The Soviets did it in 1949 even with spies deeply entrenched in the US nuclear program

1943 nukes is bogus

[idle cradle]

true, but this is a game, if i want to nuke germany in 1943, i will nuke gemrany in 1943

[fresh cedar]

Can do the same with conventional bombing

Should just add firebombing

Instead of nukes 2 years early

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[fresh cedar]

They also added the Fal 10 years early

[buoyant ore]

its gonna be peak

austria has finally gotten its focus tree after 8 years

[exotic kelp]

yes

[meager nova]

im concerned i didnt see anything about the SHB armour bug

[fresh cedar]

I’m playing Austria first tbh

[solid gyro]

I can finally play historical Austria 🥰

[exotic kelp]

i want the land cruiser as a combat unit

[buoyant ore]

cant believe switzerland got a focus tree before austria smh

[fresh cedar]

If German Reich loses civil war, does mustache man flee to Argentina or Austria

[buoyant ore]

argentina

[fresh cedar]

I mean in the new update

[buoyant ore]

then idk

[fresh cedar]

Ik it’s Argentina rn

But Lowkey could be Austria

[buoyant ore]

prob still be argentina

[fresh cedar]

I mean they’re making it so Stalin flees to Georgia now

[exotic kelp]

who wants to see the land cruiser as a new combat unit?

[solid gyro]

What if stalin flees to Argentina

[fresh cedar]

If Soviets get civil war, Georgia breaks off, Stalin loses, he goes to Georgia

[buoyant ore]

gotta love the union of georgian socialist republics

[fresh cedar]

Imagine he’s actually their fascist leader

[buoyant ore]

lol

[fresh cedar]

Helps Germany against them