latest-updates

[obtuse ingot]

The focus would be on specific cities… like London, Berlin, St. Petersburg, etc. Could even have urban combat

[fading walrus]

I wish you could do the same for Tsarist Russia

[thick edge]

i must get the kaiser plushie

[daring forge]

2 more days

[trim quartz]

I wish we could buy it

[daring forge]

https://www.makeship.com/products/kaiser-platypus

[subtle spear]

This flag was also never officially adopted, the russian empire still used the plain tri colour as its official flag.

[obtuse ingot]

Is it giant? Cause a 2ft big plush would be cool

[craggy cave]

i missed this, but you can strike oil fields with raids

[vagrant remnant]

any chinese people here

[thick edge]

lmao

Chak

if u have any idea

do u know the size of the plushie

correction

Chakula

[obtuse ingot]

(100cm)

Could probably sell PlatyKaiserpus funko pops

[thick edge]

i hope its that size

my guess is under a foot

tag size

the bristles by the shoulder

[obtuse ingot]

Probably not though… those cost like $100 or so.

Maybe….10cm? At most a ft.

[thick edge]

its not like i can pay bills with paradox

i only have to pay paradox to live

[obtuse ingot]

Amazon has regular platypus for about $30

(20 inches)

[daring forge]

they've shown it off, it fits in the hand

[thick edge]

oh

great size

love at first sight 😍

[solid gyro]

damn its that big?

IM SO BUYING IT

[hearty blade]

its just normal size for a plushy

he's holding it up to the camera its not like the plushy is bigger than his head 😭

[solid gyro]

id love to tho

a b i g plushie :3

i can hug it everyday :3

[hearty blade]

jumbo plush always fun

[obtuse ingot]

Plushie… like one of those squish mallow pillows

[trim quartz]

You can’t buy it

[stable tusk]

You might be able to after the giveaway

[trim quartz]

Sweeet

[daring forge]

I’ve linked you to the site like twice, just wait until it releases

[trim quartz]

They said it’s a giveaway

Idk, I just read the tweet

[daring forge]

They also have a giveaway yes

[trim quartz]

Also. I see now

[daring forge]

But it’s on the makeship website which should indicate it’s also purchasable

[trim quartz]

Take all my money

[obtuse ingot]

Buy a normal platypus plush
… gain sewing skill
… make your own?

[latent gyro]

You acting like some of us have the time

[trim quartz]

My own creation would not be as good

[trim quartz]

Also just realised Ludendorff would be better as one of Hitler’s generals than the Kaisers if he’s ever in the game

[obtuse ingot]

Probably not… but it’d be something that you made which gives +1 self-confidence

[stable tusk]

Well he died December of 1937, so he wouldn't be able to be used at all
Also, he kinda didn't like Hitler near the end of his life, when Hitler went to his house on Ludendorff's 70th birthday in 1935 and promoted him to General Field Marshal, he was not happy saying "An officer is named General Field-Marshal on the battlefield! Not at a birthday tea-party in the midst of peace."

[stable tusk]

This week we have Raids and Belgium to look forward to

[trim quartz]

Yeah he did die pretty early on, but I’d like to see if they make him immortal like they have with several other leaders

I swear I’ve seen Metaxes live past 1941

[silent prism]

I am really waiting for raids

I would love to see how they are implemented

[craggy cave]

raids is today

[silent prism]

I know!
That's why I am saying I am still waiting

5 more hours

[signal cargo]

Every second is a second closer

Tick tock

[craggy cave]

wait, are hoi4 DD's dropping on 14:00?

[trim quartz]

They release at midnight exactly here in Australia

Check what time that correlates for you

[craggy cave]

what time is it for you right now?

[trim quartz]

8:54pm

[craggy cave]

3 pm for me then

it's still morning in europe

this DD im most excited for

tbh

[trim quartz]

Yes, around 9 - 10 over there

[tacit sequoia]

sorta had a thought, if britain got a rework, there should be a republican path along with the democratic path.

[craggy cave]

wait wtf, it's only 2 weeks until release?

[nimble torrent]

basically

releases the 14th afaik

[trim quartz]

It releases on a Friday, so I know what I’ll be doing all weekend

[nimble torrent]

not gonna lie i'm slightly disappointed that Raids are not going to be a spy operation
Makes sense considering not everyone has LaR
but still feels like a wasted opportunity, it would have made the spy system more useful and would not have added any extra element or clutter to the game

[trim quartz]

How would spies intertwine into this?

[craggy cave]

i'm not sure, if you need an Intel network in order to do raids

[craggy cave]

have sufficient intel with spy's in the target country, to "unlock" the raid targets

would be nice

[trim quartz]

The first thing I thought of was Among Us, I don’t know why

[craggy cave]

im also interested how nukes got changed. This will also be in the dev diary today

afaik

[nimble torrent]

infiltrate in x country
launch a special raid in said objective
there are operations that work like that already
like strenghten the resistance or Operation Gunnerside or others

[signal cargo]

Raids will be bombings and nuclear strikes at least from what they told us so far, on dams and wonders

[craggy cave]

on some ressources as well

[nimble torrent]

WE FINALLY GET TO TEAR DOWN THE EIFFEL TOWER RAAAAAH

[signal cargo]

Lol yesss

[signal cargo]

Right yes they mentioned oil fields

I wonder if you could do that on sweden’s huge mine

[signal cargo]

Too many resources there

[craggy cave]

see the pumpjacks?

and the mine

[signal cargo]

Ooooo

[signal cargo]

Yess

The niagrafalls too if im right?

Im nit good at eastern geography

[craggy cave]

yeah

that would be a dam

[signal cargo]

Kinda coool

[signal cargo]

I wonder if you can still pass there if you take the dam out

[trim quartz]

Yeah, all I can see from that is Among Us in hoi4, I’m sorry

[signal cargo]

I love that menu

[nimble torrent]

also damn 3 months?
seems like they included quite a few things like auto launch n stuff like that so i like that they didn't forget about quality of life

also

[signal cargo]

They thought really hard

I love it

[trim quartz]

I can see how they pulled inspiration from the spy operation mechanics

That’s cool

[signal cargo]

Makes like all dlc before no step back look bad ngll

[craggy cave]

i wonder, if that comes with a dedicated nuclear panel

[signal cargo]

If la resistance gets integrated into the game too at some point i could see them mixing the features at some point

[nimble torrent]

silly observation
these special projects might be a slight nerf to the soviets considering they have fewer research slots, so unlike the germans who usually can do economy + something else the soviets usually focus their 3 slots hard on eco
It's gonna be interesting (praying the devs added breaktroughs in the focuses of all countries 🙏 )

[nimble torrent]

i'm seriusly hoping they just say
"well lads, now that everyone gets it we'll do a rework, make it more useful and stuff"

[craggy cave]

USA and Germany gonna have a race for the nuke

[trim quartz]

France is a nation where if it had a bigger focus tree, and more content, I would be playing it every day

[signal cargo]

Im sure theyll include breakthroughs on focuses, when arms against tyranny came out they included mio stuff in every focus tree so far

[nimble torrent]

Usa gonna win so hard tbh
partly with uk's help and the tizard mission

[signal cargo]

Mhmmm

[craggy cave]

yeah

[signal cargo]

Would be excitingg

[signal cargo]

Rightttt

Theyre in a good spot

[signal cargo]

Usa gonna be more absurdly powerful now, just gotta out produce them

[craggy cave]

this is what Millenium Dawn is cooking up

[trim quartz]

It’ll maybe come in the next couple years, but France has tons of potential for an extremely in depth and intricate update

[nimble torrent]

damn i remember playing a france mod that made it amazing

gonna look it up rn

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3133019320

amazing mod

[signal cargo]

I havent played the mod in awhile but i feel like a lot of the stuff from newer dlc’s could really benefit the mod if they use the new tools like for example the shared focuses

[signal cargo]

Mhmmmm

[signal cargo]

Oo ill have to try it some time

After this dlc the raid system and the little research centers for the special weapons will change the map forever with all of the icons

[trim quartz]

Definitely checking it out

[thick edge]

Tick tock

[jovial flower]

Heavy like brinks truck

[untold coyote]

A platypus? KAISER THE PLATYPUS?

[silent prism]

15.00?

[silent prism]

Great mod

[silent prism]

Where did you get it?

[nimble torrent]

<t:1730124000:R>

dev diary in about this time ^

[thick edge]

Oooh

What will it be about

[nimble torrent]

Raids

[hollow coral]

France tree is so outdated

[fresh cedar]

France and UK aren’t that bad imo. Could be updated to the new format but many other countries could use a facelift first

Japan being the #1

[trim quartz]

• Middle East
• Japan, China, and the USA
• Little entente including France

This seems like a good prediction. We know the Middle East is certainly next, but updating the rest of Europe will come a lot sooner I reckon

[hollow coral]

I reckon next expansion pass would be japan and SEA then a china country pack

Rework

[trim quartz]

If they ever add French Indochina, it’ll come along with a colonies update

Same with the Dutch East Indies and Malaya

[hollow coral]

I like the little entente idea

[trim quartz]

Yeah. That’ll fix the problem with the rest of the balkans and France

[fresh cedar]

Funny how we’re getting eastern middleast before western, considering North Africa/Suez were vital to WW2

[trim quartz]

Yup

[hollow coral]

Maybe a commonwealth dlc with uk and colonies and shared focus tree

[fresh cedar]

Together for Victory V2

[hollow coral]

Africa needs some expanding tbh

[trim quartz]

The British Raj is getting updated in the next one

[hollow coral]

Morocco, tunisia and egypt were nominally independant but under protectorate status

[fresh cedar]

Congo is the real first stab at Africa imo. Ethiopia didn’t do a great job at it. Felt like more of an East African thing than anything

[fresh cedar]

France can be OP still

My 1941 French Empire

[hollow coral]

And i think french african colonies can be implemented

So french west africa

[trim quartz]

A next jab at Africa id like to see implemented is Morocco, Tunisia and Egypt

[hollow coral]

French equatorial africa

[trim quartz]

Algeria won’t get anything, but west and equatorial Africa seem like a really great idea, but unlikely

[fresh cedar]

In the Q/A they said Congo could core Africa I believe

And I forget which dev diary said it might even just be the slight description of Congo, but I believe it’s getting more resources

Africa in general seriously needs a resource buff

[hollow coral]

Algeria was considered part of metropole france

[fresh cedar]

Imagine if it could side with Free France over Vichy though

[thick edge]

Is this righty

[hollow coral]

I doubt algeria would be added on the near future sadly

[thick edge]

Except raids

And systems

[hollow coral]

So raids today

[fresh cedar]

If they’re adding Afghanistan anything is possible imo

[thick edge]

Oh

[hollow coral]

Afghanistan was already in the game

[fresh cedar]

Belgium and Congo will be so interesting

[fresh cedar]

Right, though its impact on WW2? None really

[hollow coral]

Iraq and iran were minor theaters in ww2 and ig they just included afghanistan because it was conveniant

[trim quartz]

I’m most exited for waffle country and the Congo

[fresh cedar]

Can’t have a graveyard of empires DLC without Afghanistan lol

[hollow coral]

Ong

[trim quartz]

Monarchist Belgium will be the first thing I do

[hollow coral]

Monarchist congo sounds relatively fun

[trim quartz]

Wonder if they add

Burgundy

[fresh cedar]

Monarchist Belgium gonna eat Africa like a snack I bet

[hollow coral]

They will

[trim quartz]

[fresh cedar]

Bet Belgium will play like Portugal

[hollow coral]

I wish france had more colonial focuses rather then just coring and infrastructure

Similiar to uk to

[fresh cedar]

French Union or whatever should be more similar to Englands commonwealth

It’s pretty much impossible to actually have your colonies become cores

And just RNG

[hollow coral]

I think the only viable french paths are napoleonic and maybe fascist

But they dont give many buffs until the end of the tree

[trim quartz]

I never play communist paths because I think most of them suck, but I really crave a French commune focus tree

[hollow coral]

Ive never tried it but it gives some good buffs but not enough to beat germany unless early game

No cool formables either

[fresh cedar]

Communist can be for defensive buffs

I think it gets like +35% core defense

[silent prism]

I personally don't understand why middle east is so needed

India is yes needed, but everything else....
Why?
They had close to none impact or no impact at all

[trim quartz]

Yeah honestly I find it weird too, despite the fact that I’ve been craving content for the Middle East, it seems odd for right now

Perhaps it’ll be a Trial of allegiance thing where the small devs work on that, while in the background most of the effort is being put into a Japan rework

[fresh cedar]

Iraq and Iran make sense. UK has access to Iraqi oil and historically invaded it at this time. They’re effectively an early to mid game source of allied oil

Plus being so close to the Suez, could pose a threat to Mediterranean security

[thick edge]

With the Middle East dlc, there better be an American focus called OIL

[fresh cedar]

And Iran was a potential target of the Comintern and allies for attacking eachother.

[trim quartz]

Shah time baby

[trim quartz]

Raids

https://tenor.com/view/frank-west-dead-rising-gmod-dance-garrys-mod-drcord-gif-25905500

[solid gyro]

It's been 5 seconds WHERE IS MY DEV DIARY!?!?

[pseudo wing]

eu had daylight savings change yesterday

so you get to wait an hour extra

[solid gyro]

🔫 unchange it

[daring forge]

yeah it's at 15 swedish time

[solid gyro]

Dev Diaries are like drugs to me

Need my fix

[daring forge]

and it's 14

[trim quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/frothing-at-the-mouth-rabies-im-frothing-at-the-mouth-frothing-gif-23418077

[spiral glen]

When’s the next dev diary

[fringe quartz]

NOOOOO

[nimble torrent]

@spiral glen

[heady magnet]

its more than 32 minutes.... @nimble torrent

[nimble torrent]

really?

when's it supposed to come out?

[vestal scaffold]

man, this sure takes a while

[mossy rapids]

They said one hour later

For me it’s at 7 but I have to wait till 8

[nimble torrent]

it's so over

[mossy rapids]

10 -> 11

You get it

[nimble torrent]

<t:1730127600:R>

Updated hype counter lads

[indigo kite]

it’s joever

[daring forge]

it's in 27 minutes

[chilly drum]

What are you talking about, it was always 14 GMT +2

Now its hour later.

Due to daylight savings.

Meaning its going to be posted in less than half a hour

[nimble torrent]

bruh i got trolled by the damn sun

[daring forge]

one hour later than earlier due to the change to winter time, not an additional hour later in Sweden

[nimble torrent]

theupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscomingtheupdateiscoming

[wooden fiber]

I’m having withdrawals without my sweet sweet dev diaries

[heady magnet]

same, class is taking wayyy too long I need to distract myself with dev diary

[pseudo wing]

everytime someone asks about it, it gets delayed another hour

[vestal scaffold]

Chak, how is this challenge-ish scenario of me being at war with all starting majors 💀

tbh if the Stalinist Soviet Union didn't make a faction when they had a civil war with the real tag, chance was that they could have joined the Allies too

also

when is update

👀

I am asking again for +1 hour delay

[heady magnet]

update? +1 hr delay

[nimble torrent]

We'll play the new dlc without knowing how raids work yet muhahaha

[fallen zenith]

The 1 hour delay is for every dev diary and the DLC /s

(please chak no that'd be too evil)

[nimble torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-gif-21449019

(Dev Diary writers after this news)

[chilly drum]

Jokes on you, dev diaries a written well in advance.

The rest of the diaries are probably finished by now.

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[pseudo wing]

can confirm they are not all finished, and they may be started in advance but they are not always completed well in advance.

And I would know since I am the one who puts them up on steam and the forum lmao

[chilly drum]

Eh, judging by dev responses it sure seems that way.

[pseudo wing]

depends on what you mean by well in advance

tbh

if you mean a week or two in advance, then they technically are yes, but we get them translated so it takes at least around a week to do so

edited to fix wrong statement

[chilly drum]

Something something "Week or two at least."

[nimble torrent]

oh damn, they're written in swedish first?

[chilly drum]

Its not written on the spot, thats for sure.

[pseudo wing]

nono

they're written in english, but we have them translated into simplified chinese and russian

[nimble torrent]

oh damn true yea

[pseudo wing]

nono ofc not, if it was written on the spot that'd be chaos lol

[hearty blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826153471799590992/1294886836539490307/Wiz_4.gif

[hearty blade]

paradox has dedicated translators?

[thick edge]

Google translate

I read 5 words of the diary

I’m done now

👍

[tawny bluff]

new update should be free imo

with the amount of shit its giving us

[pseudo wing]

we work with some in the community to translate things, but having 'dedicated' translators I am not sure, that is above my paygrade to know

[tired acorn]

accurate borders . I'm ao happy for Northern Dobruja

[chilly drum]

Nobody works for free.

[hearty blade]

gotcha 😭

[chilly drum]

Or if you are insisting they should, than how about you give me 10 free dollars?

[tawny bluff]

at least the german focus tree

[chilly drum]

German focus tree is free, lol.

[tawny bluff]

at leas some minute improvements to vanilla

[chilly drum]

Im not joking.

[tawny bluff]

the bad one

[chilly drum]

The new one is free.

[daring forge]

Historical branches are usually free

[tawny bluff]

this is why i play kaiserreich

[tawny bluff]

wait acc?

hell yea

i am uninformed

[daring forge]

With the new alt hist being dlc

[chilly drum]

Well, the historical one at least.

..let me re check.

[silent prism]

If you really need, I am free to translate them into German and Ukrainian
Just in case, haha

[chilly drum]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/developer-diary-historical-germany.1708873/

@tawny bluff

Type "free" in page search

[daring forge]

Yipee

[outer whale]

can u plz repost the dev diary schedule

I lost it

[nimble torrent]

h u h
propaganda leaflets as raids?
interesting DD not gonna lie
(me preparing to bomb the germans back to the stone age as often as possible)

[pseudo wing]

@outer whale

[outer whale]

tysmmm

[tawny bluff]

ty @chilly drum

[outer whale]

Why couldnt u guys switch alternative germany at november 11
itd be historically epic representation
or u guys didnt want to upset Kaiser Platypus

[chilly drum]

Np

[barren tusk]

interesting raid system

[outer whale]

2 days later belguim!!!

[barren tusk]

why though?

[glossy finch]

Weren't we supposed to get raids a while ago?

[outer whale]

this is new @glossy finch

[barren tusk]

my question is it can be useful mechanic to increase world tension without entering into a war?

[dapper fjord]

so that's how raids work.. dank, why I thought raid also could be "we can steal the enemy special project by raiding them" on the early announcement post :v

[nimble torrent]

don't think you can raid a place without being at war with them

[barren tusk]

i can be useful to raid supplies hub

[nimble torrent]

raid?

like steal equipment?

[obtuse ingot]

Definitely Vic3 should have raids

[barren tusk]

or destroy the effectiveness

[dapper fjord]

something like steal the designs

[nimble torrent]

the trustworth Logistics Bombing mission and or Strategic bombing the hubs:

[obtuse ingot]

Imagine vic3 as a pirate king…. Raids 💯

[solid gyro]

Nuclear Missiles Confirmed

[obtuse ingot]

Beachley Park bombing raid?

[solid gyro]

I LOVE Mutually Assured Destruction

Actually the Resource ones too, that would come in handy

[obtuse ingot]

Raids= pirates

[nimble torrent]

to be honest
in sp tank and plane designers don't matter neither
you can just battleplan with inf and shitter planes

I'm happy we're being given some new tools and mechanics tbh

[obtuse ingot]

Imagine the US Pacific Fleet as a raiding fleet

[nimble torrent]

please daddy paradox i want to choose how many laces my soldiers have

all jokes aside it might be too much but eh, granularity without being particularly stupid is something i always appreciate

i think it's mainly a way to have some counterplay against special projects
this is the special projects dlc, not the raids one if you ask me
but it would be annoying to just have someone get that stuff with 0 odds of counterplay

[obtuse ingot]

💡Alt History Germany Kaiser pirates

[nimble torrent]

carton boots:
+25% cold attrition
-10% cost

[obtuse ingot]

Anti-Nazi Germany gains control of the navy… and basically becomes a pirate nation against Germany… like Vichy Germany

[floral scaffold]

I'm hoping the Super long range bombers the B-50, Amerikabomber, Silbervogel and G10N are coming as special projects.

[obtuse ingot]

German civil war…resulting in a split Germany 🤔😀

[nimble torrent]

Intercontinental Bomber are a thing that has been shown as a special projects
so yea

[daring forge]

also

[nimble torrent]

i finally get to bomb the Fr*nch from Australia so the smell does not kill me 🙂

[thick edge]

Eliminate France!

[mental onyx]

The dev diary states you can't sabotage the suez canal? How about a special project that builds the largest convoy possible and naming it "evergreen" to block it?

[thick edge]

lol

Wait

Can we steal special projects

[stable mica]

Hello, I have a question for the developers if this is possible here. Are other focus trees from other countries also being reworked due to the addition of dams?

[nimble torrent]

yes
but no
if you take a laboratory that is working on a project you'll get some progress on it

[obtuse ingot]

That’s because there’s a tunnel under it

[nimble torrent]

Still a shame you cant sabotage the suez, could have been cool to have a mission about bombing it and making it collapse
good luck moving tons of sand out of the way for ships in a short time

(maybe i'm wrong and it can't be done eh, didn't study how it's made NEARLY enough to say it)

[daring forge]

how would they feasibly get that much sand in there with bombs? it makes sense that you can block it when you occupy it but I don't really see it feasible just by a raid

and make it wider

[nimble torrent]

i assume something is keeping the sand from closing the canal
bomb blows up the structure holding the sand in place
sand moves in, blocking water

HOWEVER
as it turns out
it's at sea level, so what i just said does not work

Yep

Wait
So how does the usual mission work?
The one you get when you control it

do we just pour sand over it?

[obtuse ingot]

If you block the Suez it doesn’t prevent subs from getting through

[daring forge]

ig, or block its some other way

find an old boat and lodge it in

[obtuse ingot]

Although I think the current makes it (tunnel) only one-way

[mental onyx]

I see raiding as the child of Strategic Bombing and Spy operations

[obtuse ingot]

Vic3 should get something like it and they’d have pirate nations

[dense gale]

i mean u could blow up the suez

right now

i dont get why it cant be a raid too

u can disable it

[daring forge]

because it's not just as easy as bombing locks which the raid type is about

[dense gale]

yea

[obtuse ingot]

Maybe the British made a hydroelectric dam on it

[dense gale]

no

there are paradropping raids

Eben Emael raid

is in game

[daring forge]

So the strategy as Italy would still be trying to take the suez instead

[dense gale]

from the dev diary

[obtuse ingot]

I wonder if you could dam the Suez for power

[hearty blade]

im not even sure if we can dam it in 2024

[daring forge]

It would maybe be feasible to blow up somehow when occupying the territory, not really as a raid

[hearty blade]

blowing it up would be more realistic

wym u can blow anything up including the canal

its manmade so like

[dense gale]

thing is u can blow it in game now

[hearty blade]

dude wym

yk the suez canal has existed with ancient egypt right?

and that just kinda closed itself

so if nature can close it why cant we as humans close it

i would guess blowing it up with result it in being closed

or atleast unusable

[daring forge]

It would be possible to close it, but a raid doing that is infeasible imo, and apparently the devs thought so too

[hearty blade]

fair enough ig im sure u could do something that involves explosives to sabotage it though

trust me if u gave me enough bombs and enough time i could get that canal closed

[thick edge]

The Red Sea is to the right of Egypt right

K

[fresh cedar]

Wish you were able to bomb the alps and have avalanches make the routes into Italy impassable

[thick edge]

Ooh

[obtuse ingot]

🤔

That sounds cool

You just have to do nothing and the canal closes up naturally

Idk they’d want to close it. Anyone that takes it wants to use it/keep it open. Closing would be bad

[nimble torrent]

Not necessarily
Imagine you're playing as Italy and the naval war is NOT going well
You might as well take the Suez and close it
So the British have to go all around to move their fleet in asia

[fresh cedar]

I tend to close it just to have 1 entrance into the Mediterranean

[fallen kite]

i got a feeling these special projects and raids will actually be useful

if not just for the fact that nuclear bombs, flame tanks, and a bunch of submarine tech will be moved into the systems

then also for all the other kinds of technology it includes

Also, this could give some latent importance to requesting licenses for smaller countries

cause instead of having to build a research center for a ton of investment you can just license the techs you need

wait

can we license missiles

[polar jasper]

Selling nuclear missiles gotta be one the funniest pranks you can do

[obtuse ingot]

Nazi Inner Circle = Mean Girls

https://youtube.com/shorts/pO-1KAPcrvA?si=CJiHdhWVCS5Cm5tk

[fresh cedar]

Thermonuclear ICBM for sale

[solid gyro]

You know I'll be selling to random minor nations

[fresh cedar]

Strat is to sell 100 ICBMS to Mexico so when the US inevitably invades they glass eachother

[stable tusk]

Bitt3rsteel is going to be excited for Wednesday

[fresh cedar]

Watch the Belgium tree be trash 😂

[outer whale]

I think this is walloon path

why are u suprised?

[fallen kite]

tell you what I think raids are definitely be really important

and add to many current systems

[granite thunder]

yea

[fallen kite]

like the spies since having a ton of intel on the target is going to give you a pretty big boost to your chances of success

[granite thunder]

yes

best dlc so far

[fallen kite]

and of course we can't forget selling nuclear missiles to minor powers

wait

lend lease nuclear missiles to Cuba

sell nuclear missiles on the international market

[thick edge]

Yes

[fresh cedar]

No surprise here

[silk jacinth]

Lord of war but on crack

[fallen kite]

Idea

Since AI is godmode and can do hundreds of things at the same time

Send Cuba 1000 ICBMs

Then call them into the war with the US

https://tenor.com/view/wargames-gif-3485756

[fresh cedar]

What’s stopping me from giving a baby country 500 nukes to use so that it prevents late game snowball

Oh you wanna invade Central America? Goodluck, each one got 100 ICBM’s

[fallen kite]

We can do this

We can make Cold War nuclear strategies a reality

Set a ton of nuclear strikes to happen as soon as possible

[fresh cedar]

Nukes seem like a great way of denying areas tbh

[fallen kite]

As soon as WW3 starts it’s Armageddon

[fresh cedar]

I know I’m gonna try speedrunning nukes asap

Have had a busy day today at work so haven’t even read the diary yet

[fresh cedar]

For those without nukes 😁

[oblique bobcat]

i wonder if missle will have mirvs so you can nuke more tyles with only one missle

[trim quartz]

Constanta is a state now 🎉

[outer whale]

We still don't have raiding the navy at dockyard mechanic

[stable tusk]

Northern Dobrudja? KR Larpers are going to have fun with that

[fallen kite]

naval bombers

click on the "attack ports" button

[outer whale]

historical ones I meant

[keen ferry]

finally it looks much clean ( i am not even bulgarian)

[trim quartz]

I’ve been annoyed with it, now they’ve fixed it. Hurrah

[plucky crag]

Will the ho 229 be in game?

[daring forge]

dunno, just posted that image from the dev diary

[solid gyro]

Not sure yet but if so then it would be really interesting to see those in game

[amber barn]

I tought Amerikabomber was a Me 264

[worn depot]

WOOOOHOOOOOO

Wait I just realized, they can add northern Dobruja and northern Papua New Guinea yet not eupen malmendy

Like bruh

And Belgium is getting content this update and they already added one state to them, this was the perfect opportunity to add it

And in bba they added voralburg, and other times they added Katowice, 2 provinces, French basque, like the reasoning they gave of “they didn’t want to add useless states” is such an illogical answer when they are able to add ALL of that

And wilhelms land is meant for more accurate German empire colonial borders, so why not go the full way and have accurate mainland German Empire borders???????

Hopefully they listen to our feedback and add the dang state because this is very annoying

Oh yeah and they added a state in Macedonia to make Yugoslav occupation more accurate

Yet no accurate German empire borders

Like for real

[daring forge]

I mean i understand it, they'd have to add a new province

[kindred beacon]

more collaborator generals for Germany confirmed - you've been able to get Vlasov since NSB but now you can recruit Pyotr Krasnov and Bronislav Kaminski

[daring forge]

it's much smaller then the things you compared it with

[kindred beacon]

Krasnov led a division of Cossack collaborators, Kaminski led a Russian SS unit

[worn depot]

No? They used the existing provinces for burgenland, they can do the same for Belgium

[kindred beacon]

Are you talking about Eupen Malmedy

[worn depot]

Yep

[kindred beacon]

They could make it a state the problem is that it would literally be one province

[daring forge]

the existing province is way too large though, so they'd have to either have a weird blob EM or resize it a lot

[obtuse ingot]

Raids reminds me of that movie

[worn depot]

I’d be fine with it being that weird blob

[obtuse ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/the-bridge-on-the-river-kwai-show-name-title-card-columbia-pictures-100-gif-11742691032926646724

[daring forge]

I don't get the big deal tbh, it's barely noticeable and isn't really important

[daring forge]

yeah the only one province states they've added recently have been important places or islands, EM is neither

[worn depot]

Same can be said for French basque, yet it’s been added in anyways

[daring forge]

that's three provinces

[worn depot]

Still very small

And insignificant, in fact it even ruined Vichy France borders

[daring forge]

and it was adden in what, LaR? that was 4 years ago

[worn depot]

Does it matter when it was added?

[daring forge]

but not a one province state, which they seem to not want to add many new ones

[daring forge]

mostly with how they might've changed in their attitude to states in four years of development

[worn depot]

Still a shame though, considering the rest of the mainland German empire borders are accurate

Sure there is the Ardennes state

But ehh

Though at least they made the Ardennes state border along the river

Which is nice

[daring forge]

makes a fun greater germany border

[worn depot]

Decided to use occupationpaint to mockup what it'd look like, and honestly not that bad

[obtuse ingot]

Special Projects

[worn depot]

I wonder how theyll do Kaiser-Wilhelms land though, since the current provinces dont allow it to be accurate

[stable tusk]

I mean, the Septemberprogramme did call for the annexation of the Ardennes region and vassalizing Belgium in the rest

[worn depot]

Wonder how they’ll do the septemberprogramme actually

[stable tusk]

I wonder what the acronym for this DLC will be, maybe ToG considering the English name is "Thunder of the Gods"

[deep apex]

I second this idea

[fallen kite]

Göt

[kindred beacon]

Have a question for the developers
In the Germany features you showed that Alfred Rosenberg leads the occupied territory administration. While historically he did lead it, he never got to implement his plans
He favored splitting up Russia into colonial puppet states where the locals would have an illusion of native government under German rule and the establishment of a Cossack state.
In practice Hitler favored Erich Koch, the commissar of Ukraine and his more brutal practices under "General Plan East".

In practice, the appointment of Erich Koch to administer the Reichskommissariat Ukraine substantially undermined Rosenberg's authority. Hitler ordered Koch to take a hard and brutal approach, which helped to push potential Ukrainian allies back to the Allied camp. Rosenberg wished to portray the Germans as liberators of Ukraine from Soviet domination. Furthermore, Rosenberg's ministry was denied authority over army and other security formations within the occupied territories. The other Reich Commissar, Hinrich Lohse (Ostland), was widely disregarded. The SS filled the resulting power vacuum by acting as it wishe

So will we get a choice between historical RKs or allowing for collaborators as Rosenberg wanted?

Rosenberg favoured an approach that he called "political warfare" to "free the German Reich from Pan-Slavic pressure for centuries to come".[40] Rosenberg envisioned breaking up the Soviet Union into four puppet states and added Cossackia as the fifth puppet state in 1942.

[obtuse ingot]

GDR

[fresh cedar]

Nukes gonna be super worth

[kindred beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/sgt-dornan-fallout-fallout-2-enclave-x-01-power-armor-gif-4650156849365803423

[polar jasper]

Nukes going to make invading a pain. That negative division speed and defense will apply to the invaders too

[fallen kite]

Nuclear warhead shouldn’t be dropped directly on the front?!?

[void star]

hi (:

[fallen kite]

hi

[void star]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron-4-funny-jumping-jacks-gif-3864036126484251637

[stable tusk]

No more tactical nukes to push through org walls :(
That's the only way I can push through the US in the late game

[fallen kite]

i mean there's no attack modifiers

just slowness and defense modifiers

and pretty big ones too that's -40% defense and -50% entrenchment

[stable tusk]

So still being able to push just super slowly

[fallen kite]

yeah

no spamming out nuclear bombs for a massive breakthrough

but at the same time

I'm pretty sure defense modifiers also apply to breakthrough

so maybe every side gets screwed

at the same time maybe there's a difference between tactical and strategic nuclear weapons

[obtuse ingot]

Just use sound

Or Xray gun

[zenith pilot]

We are 100% never getting hoi5

[stable tusk]

But I'll be able to take the top off of Big Ben soom

So plus side there

[zenith pilot]

And the eiffel tower 🙂

[solid gyro]

When I erase France and UK from the map 🥰🥰

[craggy cave]

I mean the effects are modable. Im sure, that there will be a nice mod, that will tweak the numbers. Or even add add destinctions between Strategic and Tactical Nukes

we have 2 types of nukes

dont you forget

[solid gyro]

eu5 is coming first

[plucky crag]

Yes it would be amazing

[solid gyro]

Pretty sure they will be in

[signal cargo]

Dam

Rip dam

Didnt need it anyways

It was in the way

Gotta move it

All at once

[obtuse ingot]

I have a feeling we’ll get it by 2030

[signal cargo]

Pffft

Honestly probably

Theres lots they can do with hoi4 still and theres not really anything that a new game will benefit the company with

Not yet at least

[hearty blade]

Unironically i think we’ll get it in like 4 years?

I feel like they start working on a new game when the old one is like 10 years old

[chilly drum]

Nah, expansion pass 1 implies that there will be at least few other

2030 doesnt sound so far fetched.

[signal cargo]

Its only 6 years away

Not absurd

[hearty blade]

Fair. 2030 is pretty realistic

[obtuse ingot]

2028 sounds reasonable as like the earliest

[obtuse ingot]

One… maybe 2 more and the map will be filled out…

Then the work begins

[signal cargo]

Well its not only about filling out the map

As the dlc’s get integrated into the game a ton of nations can be reworked like hungary is atm and soon the raj

[obtuse ingot]

Once the map is filled less overall stuff to do… meaning slightly more time to work on hoi5

[chilly drum]

Thats not how it works, judging by EU4

At least some initial development can be done in parallel, while team slowly shifts from working on old part to working on new.

[obtuse ingot]

That’s what I mean

Other than engine what would make hoi5 different from hoi4?

[cold viper]

the name

[obtuse ingot]

Hoi5 should have something hoi4 can’t do

[cold viper]

make you fight the wars in real life

theres nothing i can think of

can do something

in a new hoi game

that hoi4 hasnt done

theres no reason for them to make hoi5

[obtuse ingot]

• WW2 City Manager, instead of Nation manager?
• ww1 and figuring out interwar mechanics?

Ww2 city manager could be cool

[cold viper]

wouldnt be as appealing

[obtuse ingot]

Like a mix between city skylines and Hoi

[cold viper]

we already have mods for that

[cold viper]

ww1 mods exist too

[obtuse ingot]

Which ones? You could have major cities like London, Berlin, etc.

[solid gyro]

Hoi5 would be hoi4 only with better graphics, a few new mechanics maybe etc which tbh can be added into hoi4

[signal cargo]

Yeahh, and the only reason theyd make hoi5 is if theyre a way to profit off of it, unless hoi4 loses its player base or they find new ways to make money hoi5 wont come

I dont thinm hoi5 will be for awhile though

Not only after every nation has a focus tree almost every nation before no step back can be reworked

I know you always like to bring up a france rework

It wont happen soon but its very likely to happen still

[thick edge]

What would better graphics be

Like

I would like the game to run than look nice

[hallow pivot]

Hoi5 wont be a thing

Since Hoi isnt supposed to look like CK3 or VIC3

Becuase it would crash all the time

[solid gyro]

I'm confident they'll port hoi4 over to a new engine and sell it as a new game

Similar to how ARK survival evolved ported to Ark survival ascended

[trim quartz]

I used to think the devs for hoi4 where only Swedes and that everything was based in Sweden

[signal cargo]

I was sad they didnt make Sweden absurdly op because of that, i was hoping for their favoritism to show

[trim quartz]

Same

[hallow pivot]

Wait hoi devs are swedish?

Lol

I though they were americans

or russians

[signal cargo]

Pffft

Nahh

[trim quartz]

Everybody knows they’re Swedish-ish

[signal cargo]

Pffft

Sweden rules videogames

[trim quartz]

Yup

[solid gyro]

I've been to the HQ in Stockholm

[daring forge]

Some are, not all - but the office is in Sweden

[obtuse ingot]

I’m most exactly saying France reworking… just that you have a connecting thread through a lot of nations with generic focus trees that connect back to France.

[silent prism]

Nah, hoi4 would have unbearable ussr in that case

[thick edge]

War thunder

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-get-real-t34-stalinium-gif-25765558

[silent prism]

True

I remember drinking on Tiger 2 and being killed by BT-7

[thick edge]

As a Russian main I can confirm it’s not real

[silent prism]

As someone who played ussr a lot - it is true

[thick edge]

Only when u fight them they are good

Stuck at 6.3

[silent prism]

I have ussr, Germany, USA and Sweden almost fully upgraded

[thick edge]

This IS-2 is garbage

[silent prism]

Well, no
It literally one-shots everything you shoot at

Doesn't matter the hit place

[thick edge]

I have 3.0 USA, Sweden, 6.7 Israel, 5.7 Germany, and 6.3 Russia

(Ground)

[thick edge]

Which one?

The first or second is-2

[silent prism]

First

[thick edge]

Mmm

I will try later today

[silent prism]

I remember playing with friends

3 IS-2s

[thick edge]

I used too

[silent prism]

And each minute we all get a kill

[thick edge]

My freind is at8.7 Germany

My other one is 4.7

[silent prism]

I love low-rank

And I love ships

[thick edge]

Same

[fresh cedar]

I imagine the Allies may get one in general

[fallen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-war-thunder-meme-war-thunder-tank-gunner-tank-gunner-meme-kia-gif-27389345

[vapid ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-tis-but-a-scratch-gif-12051667

[fresh cedar]

Wouldn’t mind a faction/diplomacy rework honestly

[solid gyro]

Ikr? Would love to see more options for diplomacy

But ig thats more for the eu,vicky or ck series since hoi is more war focused

[fresh cedar]

Even so peace deals and factions are pretty messy

[solid gyro]

True would also be good if they redo the ai peacedeal system so that they dont just annex india which then creates border gore

I would like to see the option to give land for factories or smth like that

[cobalt jay]

If they redo the peace deal system, I would love to see the ability for negotiations mid war based off current war score

[low plover]

Yea like Eu4!

I still dream about it and long for it

[kind yew]

So with speical projects if a player were to say capture a research facility while a prototype is in their would we be able to get acess to that prototype an ocntinue building or acess to how to build it?

[fresh cedar]

They said you’d unlock the option to research it and progress towards its completion.

[hearty blade]

here it is @fresh cedar

[stable tusk]

I wonder if the "asking the community with achievement ideas" was a one time thing for AAT or if they'll bring it back eventually

[solid gyro]

They should have one called “Haus in neu Berlin” where you have to construct the Volkshalle and rename Berlin to Germania

[obtuse ingot]

Finish the Maus project- “Haus of Maus”

[fresh cedar]

I’m taking 2 days off of work when the DLC comes out 😂

[hearty blade]

i used to call in sick on school when new fortnite season dropped

[worn depot]

I really wonder what they plan with Belgium, I feel like it will takes some cues to the Netherlands

[fresh cedar]

Same with game releases

[fresh cedar]

The mark of a true gamer

[fresh cedar]

How many plushies do you have in total

[hearty blade]

i got like 2 rn excluding the kaiser plush. i wanna really get more tho

[fresh cedar]

I might do the Kaiser plush. Though I’d limit to 5 total I think

3 is good

[fresh cedar]

So the Evangelion one and a Miku?

[hearty blade]

Cow and evangelion

I dont own a miku

Unfortunately

I wish dude

[fresh cedar]

You should 😂

Panzer commander Miku

I forgot about the build a bear cow lol

[hearty blade]

Here he is

[fresh cedar]

Not what I expected tbh

Thought normal black and white moomoo

[fresh cedar]

Cute though!

[hearty blade]

Yeah hes cool

I gave him the bowtie etc

[fresh cedar]

Freaking decked out cow

I had a build a bear once

[fresh cedar]

Does he have an outfit

[hearty blade]

thats his only outfit

he chills in his pjs 24/7

[subtle bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-get-real-gif-21323382

[fallen kite]

holly shit gunner mogging?

[fresh cedar]

That’s super cool he has one

[fresh cedar]

The dream lol

[trim quartz]

I am purchasing the Kaiser plush

[thorny shell]

Wonder what new states the new update holds besides the already teased ones (such as Northern New-Guinea, Barosteland, Burgenland, and that one Hungarian state)

[stable tusk]

Northern Dobrudja was in the Raids video

[thorny shell]

oh yea, forgot about that

[stable tusk]

And Macedonia has new states

[trim quartz]

Oh so Africa has a new state?

[thorny shell]

Any info on what exactly those states are?

[thorny shell]

Barosteland yea, it was apperantly a Protectorate of the U.K during the 30s

[trim quartz]

Cool

They should add Neukamerun

German Cameroon borders

[thorny shell]

It could be possible its just the issue of making 2-3 states depending on the part you speak of

as Neukamerun holds parts of modern day Congo, Gabon and C.A.R

a tho i think it would be nice to see Ambazonia being turned into its own state if Cameroon does get touched, as it was handed over to Britian after Germany was dealt with in WW1

• The whole divide between Ambazonia and the rest of Cameroon and all of that political-nonesense..

[sharp mantle]

are we getting only the belgian focus tree tomorrow or are they also revealing the congolese focus tree

[obtuse ingot]

Congos later iirc

would’ve been cool to have in same week though 😉

[stable tusk]

Belgium is tomorrow, Congo is next week Monday and Alt History Germany is next week Wednesday

Then we get art and achievements and whatnot

[obtuse ingot]

Do you think we’ll get this for GoE?

[silk jacinth]

I think we deserve the nation of osea in base game hoi4

[obtuse ingot]

Maybe 2/3 weeks
1: Historical Iraq/Alt history Iraq
2: Iran/ Alt History Iran
3: Afghanistan/Alt History Afghanistan
4: Secret Nation Focus

[silk jacinth]

As well as belka

[fresh cedar]

That was my thought process too

Honestly Congo and Alt History Germany is what I’m most interested in

So that’ll be an OP weak

[obtuse ingot]

Like putting historical Germany and alt history Germany in the same week…

[fresh cedar]

They don’t really do that

They’ve always broken them up

[subtle spear]

they have India listed on the steam page as well..

[fresh cedar]

Like this list for instance they’d never do. They like breaking them up for some reason

I wonder if Pakistan will get content

[obtuse ingot]

But will we get a month long list of dev diaries for them?

[stable tusk]

You forgot the Raj

[fresh cedar]

It’s weird legit Iran, India, Afghan will get content if Pakistan doesn’t

[subtle spear]

it be the same as TOA more than likely

[fresh cedar]

Interested in Indian Monarchist trees though

[obtuse ingot]

Secret nation; Transjordan

It’s just Iraq but swapped

[fresh cedar]

Secret would be Pakistan/Nepal

What’s crazy to me is how Luxembourg isn’t getting a tree but Lichtenstein is possibly gonna exist

[fresh cedar]

Idk if they’d touch that area with the current political climate of that

[obtuse ingot]

Jordan’s not really involved (🤞), but both Iraq & Jordan share a royal family so both could have trees to make a Heshemite kingdom

[fresh cedar]

Transjordan though

[stable tusk]

Jordan's chill but the rest of the Levant is kinda burning

[fresh cedar]

Graveyard of empire has such potential

Not sure what Afghanistan will ultimately do. But Iraq would be Arabia, Iran the Persian empire, and India Maurya

[stable tusk]

Imagine Princely States get added, that would be hell for World Conquesters

[fresh cedar]

Maybe Afghan can get cores on Pakistan?

[stable tusk]

Monarchism wasn't a thing in India unless you count the regional princes

[fresh cedar]

Manpower 😏

[fresh cedar]

Just do a Maurya Empire one

[fresh cedar]

Kinda opposite of historical hands and India split with Pakistan, but instead super unites them with Afghanistan

Unless Afghanistan gets the Maurya path

Then fair

[fresh cedar]

Oh god please no Reich Kom of the Middleast 😂

[stable tusk]

Long dead and buried, there was nobody even thinking of restoring the Mauryans

[fresh cedar]

Oh so Afghanistan could potentially go axis and destabilize the Soviets Steppe

[fresh cedar]

Some formables in HOI4 comparable

[subtle spear]

they dont really need to have a paths for every alternative ideology tbh. they tend to come off as lackluster and liner.

[fresh cedar]

South American/Bosphorous DLC disagree

They seem to have a formula

Persian Empire and Arabia gotta exist though

[obtuse ingot]

Transjordan during ww2 was similar. Historically remained neutral but could have done what Iraq did

[fresh cedar]

Feel like that’s more of a middleast DLC though

With Saudi, Yemen, Oman

Egypt

[obtuse ingot]

I think the king of Iraq and king of Jordan were like cousins iirc

[subtle spear]

they are some of the worst trees they have made. they mostly have bland historical routes and the focus paths consist of a strait line down liner paths for demanding your neighbours land for free.. and a swear im going to lose it for how many time Chile becomes a major and joins the allies. Bosphorous DLC was fairly good because it had a challenge and its goals had a weight because nothing was just given to you for free besides the Bulgaria tree.

they also had more diverse historical paths that allowed for more choice

[stable tusk]

The Raj shouldn't have a monarchist tree, there were zero people claiming the throne of any united Indian empire

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharifian_Solution

Undoing Sykes Picot mission tree would be 😘

[sharp mantle]

the secret nation focus tree will be tibet

i'm calling it

[fresh cedar]

Luckily, opinions vary 😂

[fresh cedar]

Which is why a hidden Paki Monarchist path would be great

[stable tusk]

Maybe for Mughal Empire larpers

[fresh cedar]

One can only dream

[fresh cedar]

Like the flavor. Would still rather the weight be on historical/light alt history

And maybe 1 meme path

[obtuse ingot]

Sykes picot ruined everything

[obtuse ingot]

Most Indian troops were deployed against the Japanese in Burma (now Myanmar), fighting crucial battles in the China-Burma-India theatre.

Meanwhile, under the leadership of Indian leader Subhash Chandra Bose, Japan set up an army of Indian POWs known as the Indian National Army, which fought against the British. A major famine in Bengal in 1943 led to between 0.8 and 3.8 million deaths due to starvation, and a highly controversial issue remains regarding Churchill's decision not to provide emergency food relief.

[fresh cedar]

Which isn’t remotely represented in game

[fallen kite]

how they gonna do that

give india a special AI thing where they really really wanna fight in Burma?

its the kinda thing that's just gonna happen naturally when the two countries go to war

[obtuse ingot]

You probably get a support Britain focus tree and a support axis focus tree.

I’d feel a decolonization mechanic where you have to worry about pop happiness maybe (but that sounds like a bigger dlc)

[plucky crag]

today belgium dev diary yeeesss

[trim quartz]

When do the Kaiser’s get shipped out?

[jolly bluff]

March of next year, Makeship production usually takes time.

Order time is over in 20 days though.

[trim quartz]

Something to look forward to

[fresh cedar]

Probably not that one; but aligning to the different factions I could see. I bet it would sooner side with Japan than the Axis perhaps. Though if it did side with the axis could be a neat way of putting Japan and Germany at odds

[wise oxide]

belgium dev diary

[wooden fiber]

Will it be at six today or seven?

[daring forge]

It’s at 15:00 as usual

[pseudo wing]

some places haven't had daylight savings time come into effect yet (this being North america) so its an hour later for some, but the timing of it in Sweden (15:00) remains unchanged

[fresh cedar]

God I wish we didn’t have daylight savings

[pseudo wing]

I understand why it exists, though we should probably look at it in terms of value for many places, as it was intended originally to give us more time with s unlight, it does quite the opposite for many

[fresh cedar]

I’m sure it does still benefit a select few, but by no means the majority

[mellow zenith]

what do you not like about it?

[fresh cedar]

Driving home from work in the dark then having no light after working

[mellow zenith]

i thought that daylight saving should give you more time in the light no?

[fresh cedar]

In the evening in summer, in the morning in winter

[mellow zenith]

oh my bad sorry

[solid gyro]

Here in Finland we're currently voting on to cancel daylight savings, hoping it succeeds

[polar jasper]

Permanent forward or permanent backward

[solid gyro]

Permanent summertime

[thick edge]

No winter?

No Christmas

24/7/31/365 frozen Mariah Carey?

[polar jasper]

Ah, we in the US are stuck because we don't know if we want to be an hour ahead or not

Except for Arizonia

[trim quartz]

10 more minutes

[thick edge]

Today is Belgium right

Better be a Belgian waffle focus

[mellow zenith]

fr

imagine t would be the same as default but have one more civ, ohh the dream

[trim quartz]

Waffle country

https://tenor.com/view/frank-west-dead-rising-gmod-dance-garrys-mod-drcord-gif-25905500

[wooden fiber]

It’s french fry time

[prisma wing]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-belgium-scream-if-you-love-scream-wwe-autism-gif-872084302294161251

[solid gyro]

1 minute late

[trim quartz]

Paradox fell off

[solid gyro]

The devs have abandoned us

They're never releasing this dlc 😔

Nvm:3

[trim quartz]

I’m guessing the blurred out bit relates to the Congo

[valid ocean]

When new update?

[trim quartz]

They got Sir Topham hat as their leader

[pseudo wing]

I had to wait till the video was live on youtube, blame youtube for that lmao

[pseudo condor]

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?!

[pseudo wing]

seems to be a gun

that shoots bullets

[mental onyx]

From generic portrait to unique admiral?

[pseudo condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dude-uncool-william-the-conqueror-oversimplified-funny-gif-3925950359570277519

[solid gyro]

Belgian AR in Hoi4

Is Belgium overpowered?

[fresh cedar]

I just realized they could easily do a corporation dlc one day. Where major corporations actually give nationwide buffs and perhaps are on the map like special research facilities

[cobalt jay]

Yes

[solid gyro]

I'm wondering if the Dietsland focus will allow you to move your capital to Amsterdam

[fresh cedar]

Saw Belgium has corporate buffs and realized how OP that could be for any country

And give extra depth to raids

By bombing corporate heartlands

[pseudo condor]

there are 2 ways this DLC will go...

1. this will ruin HOI4, OP
   or 2) Bad and it will ruin the game

[cobalt jay]

I already see a way to break the AI

[fresh cedar]

Every OP dlc eventually gets nerfed. It’ll be fine

[solid gyro]

I'm honestly confused since j don't know Belgian history, but which path is the historical path?

[pseudo condor]

"it´ll be fine"

what if not?

[cobalt jay]

I'm not sure this one can be

[fresh cedar]

Oh for god sakes, South America had some 90% nerfs and it’s fine. People really just doom and gloom over things 😂

[stiff eagle]

McDonald's bombing raid

[fresh cedar]

Bombs major Russian tank factory nerfing their tank output for half a year

[solid gyro]

@polar jasper HI 😄

[stable tusk]

The Right Arm of the Free World

[solid gyro]

Nevermind i just watched the video

[cobalt jay]

My idea got confirmed tho how to break Germany as Belgium:
Rush communism so I can print manpower and join the Comitern which means the Germans can't declare on me until Barb because Molotov-Ribbentrop, which means Germany to fight a two front war against a full strength Allies and Comitern because the Western front becomes a stalemate because Germany will never break the Maginot and Italy can't break Savoy

[fresh cedar]

All fun and games till Monarchist/Democratic Germany exist

Or they too go communist and void you

[trim quartz]

Leopold III my beloved

[cobalt jay]

Doesn't change anything

[fresh cedar]

Kinda does, historical dies over time economically. The others don’t and will have many more allies

[trim quartz]

Also burgundy added to hoi4, TNO reference

[jolly bluff]

Burgundy added, funny TNO reference

[stable tusk]

@obtuse ingot Seems like one of your ideas did get added after all, not as an independent country tho, more like a formable for Belgium

[fresh cedar]

Yes, mammal just said that 😂

[jolly bluff]

Yeah I was in the middle of watching the Belgium showcase and saw the VDNV fascist path that allows for Burgundy to be formed lol

[fresh cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/plnkfr1day-spongebob-not-shy-not-me-gif-21885461

[silk jacinth]

Lit we can research the fn fal

Best gun

[trim quartz]

Great minds think alike

[fresh cedar]

I’m just like a second later 😂

Feels like popups in HOI4

I really wish they’d create a better filter for popups tbh

Even watching the devs play I see them instant close them lol

I’d sometimes only want to see the fall of major cities, and not a pot being knocked over

[trim quartz]

I was thinking you just have a little newspaper icon somewhere in the top corner, and everything news is announced, it rings

[valid ocean]

When update happeninf

[jolly bluff]

HOI4 has just taught me there's a company called "Cockerill"

[trim quartz]

And if it’s something important it does it normally

[fresh cedar]

And maybe the ability to choose what you want to see

[jolly bluff]

Yet another great day to be literate

[stable tusk]

You knock over a vase -1.00% stability
You didn't like that vase anyway +1.00%

[fresh cedar]

Exactly, don’t need things like that

But I love when it’s like “Japan has taken Honolulu”

[trim quartz]

“They seek strength in number”

[fresh cedar]

Just gets a home front DLC that reworks corporations (not MIO’s but the ones that buff countries) maybe some more landmarks, propaganda campaigns and a reworked news system

But the “X has joined faction Y in our war” pop-ups could be super tweaked. Maybe only do it for majors?

[trim quartz]

There should be an option to only show news from your own country, decisions and stuff

[fresh cedar]

Like do I as the USSR really care if Rwanda joined against me?

[trim quartz]

I’m not sure how it works, but they should fix war names

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[trim quartz]

WW2 was once called “The Montenegrin - Chinese war”

[fresh cedar]

Ah yes

[fresh cedar]

None, developer diary. Update Nov 14

[pseudo condor]

nah...

[stable tusk]

That's what it's legit called btw

[pseudo condor]

😆

[fresh cedar]

That’s the point of that path though. To resist and break anyone who invades right?

[cobalt jay]

Yeah, but I'm not sure a Germany player can counter that

[thick edge]

Imma make Belgium a absolute fortress

[fresh cedar]

That’s the point. On historical it’s a speed bump, ahistorical it actually decides to defend itself

[obtuse ingot]

Burgundy was always a thing (historically) since England owned France

[fresh cedar]

Kinda has that

I like how it seems like it’ll be able to get cores but not unreasonably

[cobalt jay]

The problem is if the Belgian player is competent, I'm not sure even a player Germany can counter the Belgians going communist

[fresh cedar]

I’m not so sure of that

Even if Belgium can have a 600k army, it doesn’t mean it can maintain that forever

[prisma wing]

https://tenor.com/view/dekeskui-dekeskoui-gif-20086792

👍

[fresh cedar]

Also they said if German AI can’t break through Belgium it’ll do Switzerland

And the German AI seems to always steamroll Switzerland

[fresh cedar]

That’s my thought process too. CAS and larger manpower pool can grind them down

Especially since Belgium starts with a pretty bad Air Force

[cobalt jay]

In most MP games, the majors have to be filled so if Belgium is allowed to go communist for whatever reason, the German player will have to fight a two front war against players amd without Belgium and France , Germany will collapse from Mefo bills

[cobalt jay]

You forget that with the strat Belgium can call in the Soviets

[fresh cedar]

Idk if Belgium would always decide to just go with the Soviets though. It seems like it can benefit more by doing its own thing

Seems like going Soviet would be as appealing as doing any of the German puppet paths

So not very

[jade flare]

lets go belgium focustree

Wonder what the blurry branch is though

||Don't give me false hope of an independent Flanders path Paradox||

[fresh cedar]

It’s shared economic tree with the Congo

[jade flare]

Ah

Welp

[fresh cedar]

Can build it up before fleeing to it like Netherlands and Indonesia

[jade flare]

There go my dreams/J

[fresh cedar]

They showed it a little on YouTube

I think EU too though

[jade flare]

EU sounds really fun

[fresh cedar]

Has a shared Congo economic tree and a shared EU economic tree

[jade flare]

Finally some more proper content for it

[fresh cedar]

Probably function similar to the Scandinavian shared tree

[jade flare]

I really ought to play more

I'll try to get a game going tonight

[daring forge]

Why’d you say that? Congo I get, EU not really

Was there something I’ve missed that could indicate that

[fresh cedar]

Because on YouTube some focuses had a Congo flag, some had EU flags

I’ll get a screenshot

[daring forge]

I mean VNV exist ig

[pseudo wing]

I could send a screenshot of it but I already typed out the entire DD on it so that'd definitely be a leak

lmao

[fresh cedar]

Nvm was Belgium Congo

Blue flag looked EU but under closer look Belgium Congo lol

[daring forge]

The flags do look similar yeah, but that’s Congo

[fresh cedar]

Gotta have an EU tree though

How are they gonna just have the EU focus be the end of the tree

When realistically it would be the start of one

They even said the EU started off as some like European steel/coal thing

So would make sense for economic overlap

[daring forge]

Is it not just like an end game formable or something

[fresh cedar]

Currently is

Doubt it won’t be in depth now

[thick edge]

Will there ever be a Luxembourg tree

[fresh cedar]

They said no on this DLC sadly

[thick edge]

Please say yes

[thick edge]

NOOOOOO

[fresh cedar]

Basically not now but someday

Was on a livestream I believe

[thick edge]

hear me out