latest-updates

[thick edge]

but no pixels

[cerulean dagger]

ah yes

the historical germany expansion nobody asked for

but we still got

[polar jasper]

So, it appears we got the classic 2 communist paths

Democratic path seems to be expanded a little

There is a mutually exclusive thing with the Kaiser

Military dictatorship?

[cerulean dagger]

Italy just celebrating rn

[polar jasper]

there is still the accept naval dominance and rebuild high seas fleet

[cerulean dagger]

Dude ussr is a little country that is still standing 😭

this is wild

[polar jasper]

Neat

[harsh hull]

I can't wait to play as Red Germany and form the Volkskommisariats

[obtuse ingot]

What if Germany sent its UBoats to the Mediterranean?

[polar jasper]

I believe some did cross through Gibraltar, but not many

What simply happens is the Royal Navy blows it up

Like it did with the Italian navy

And the u-boats in the Atlantic

[obtuse ingot]

Reading more abt history and that Himmler guy is a complete idiot

[polar jasper]

He was into some strange crap

[obtuse ingot]

And for some reason they pick genocide. Which is waay too obvious.

It’s sad so many died, but lucky Germany was so stupid. They weren’t able to hide it.

[polar jasper]

Meanwhile Japan denying everything even when evidence exists

[cobalt knot]

begging on my knees to anyone that will listen

please undo all the locked templates in the game

if germany gets locked, uneditable divisions i'm gonna tweak

[stable tusk]

Some already did

[stable tusk]

That's what the SS divisions are gonna be

[cobalt knot]

THATS WHY IM BEGGING ON MY KNEES

TEARS IN MY EYES

PLEASE JUST DONT MAKE LOCKED DIVISIONS ANYMORE

[solid gyro]

truer words have never been said better 😭

man cant wait for helicopters, now i can make ridiculously op divisions like in TNO lmao

[cobalt knot]

are helicopters gonna work like planes or like a support company?

have they shown that yet?

[solid gyro]

my best guess is that they'll probably be just support companies as helicopters were still pretty experimental during ww2, though i wouldnt be surprised if you could get some divisions post 1944 tech

[cobalt knot]

Mhmm would be an okay implementation

And in line with most mods

[solid gyro]

yeah i think so too

[cobalt knot]

But Id like them to work them into the air system and make it like a really strong cas air wing

[solid gyro]

or maybe have like a steady reaearch going from experimental helis to attack and transports

[cobalt knot]

Maybe specially weak to anti air support

[solid gyro]

oh god my mind just thought of helicopter designers 😭

that would melt the ai

[trim quartz]

Apparent one of the devs posted a very low quality photo of Germany’s non historical branch?

[solid gyro]

i see some R E D on the left

[fringe rose]

those words will never be readable

[trim quartz]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/deducing-a-pixelated-clue-the-german-alternative-history-focustree.1710117/

Here’s some extra information

Not sure if I’m allowed to post this though

[solid gyro]

i also see that they kept the Democracy or Revive the Kaiserreich paths, just extended them a bit

finally a democratic nation that wont be pain playing?

[trim quartz]

Hope for freedom players

[solid gyro]

finally a way to form the EU?

without having to switch ideologies 200 times?

[solid gyro]

See some red too

[solid gyro]

will blast some Sozialistische Weltrepublik and all the East German songs to this

finally i can spread the revolution as Thälmann

I got an east German uniform yesterday imma be listening to auferstanden aus ruinen

[jolly bluff]

Will always find it funny how before Götterdämmerung the only way to turn communist as Germany was to have Thälmann influence German politics in the Reichstag from the shadows of the prison he was held in.

Not to mention Wilhelm Pieck leading Germany all the way from Moscow.

[solid gyro]

yeah thats so weird and funny lol

The best German leader

[plucky crag]

All red all red

[oblique perch]

guys i think im doing something wrong

[dense veldt]

preorder soundtrack should be "heimlichers aufsmarche" to match the new communist path

[solid gyro]

No

It's also not quoted

[oblique perch]

i dont think i should be winnning this

cool

dang my pathetic navy just sunk a british aircraft carrier with no losses

[quartz agate]

Are there any mod, where all continents are united? Then you can declare war against Africa as Europe, or something.

[glossy finch]

So we have an image of alt history Germany? How big is it compared to the soviets

[solid gyro]

pretty big ngl

id say just a bit bigger but roughly the same

[severe compass]

This bi-weekly q&a thing, is that this week or next week?

[solid gyro]

If communism is on the right, democracy and empire are in the middle, what's the tree on the right?

[craggy cave]

should be today, since it's the 2nd week now

[oblique perch]

DAMN MY NAVY SUCKS HOW AM I WINNIN

LANDFALL

[solid gyro]

Why'd you invade through the channel

[oblique perch]

idk

[hearty blade]

Asia has it in the bag lol

So many resources

So much mp

[oblique perch]

welp the frontline is falling appart

i have no clue why it all the sudden just fell appart

[hearty blade]

U did somehow break the marginot

[oblique perch]

after i broke it then i recreated ww1.

by somehow making a immovable frontline that lasted 2 years which i couldnt advance but neither could they.

[hearty blade]

Yeah good on u lmao

[oblique perch]

[hearty blade]

Yeah need tanks or cas to cut

[oblique perch]

now im just trying to launch a desperate last ditch effort to push london before i capitulate

[quiet swallow]

Has someone a better picture of this

[glossy finch]

I don't think we yet have, it's intentionally shitty

[hollow coral]

noticed that non aligned party is now dnvp

wish they did that with uk and france

for uk they make house of windsor ig

and france has action francais

[solid gyro]

What does dnvp stand for

Deutsch something something party

[nimble torrent]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_National_People's_Party

[solid gyro]

Should have guessed it

[austere pelican]

you won this and previous one because enemy has no screening efficiency due to lack of screens ofc and you have 1800 torpedoes hitting straight into their heavies

[oblique perch]

these guys have survived about 10 days

in this encirclement

[hollow coral]

They have tunnels

[oblique perch]

lol

[fading walrus]

Knew who these guys were

The right to far right party that wanted to restore the Kaiser

[karmic helm]

who the hell is this 💀

[trim quartz]

Adolf Hitler

[thick edge]

Agreed

[karmic helm]

maybe when he was like 30

[fading walrus]

Hitler was 47 in 1936 though

[trim quartz]

I like the new portrait better, but I do think they should have used a different source photo

[thick edge]

I like the current one

I got used to it

[trim quartz]

The new art style is really good

I’m lovin it

[fading walrus]

This Reminds of that kid who got banned because he didn’t like the way hitler was portrayed

He dm’d me after and called me some slurs

[thick edge]

How would he know

Bro went to Argentina

[trim quartz]

Paradox should have added a meth trait to Hitler

[fading walrus]

Ive been saying this for half the year now

[trim quartz]

It just gives you the ability to play at 20x speed

[fading walrus]

When Japan gets updated

I want Hirohito to be a spirt

Not the leader

The leader should be the Japanese army Junta or something

[thick edge]

Wasn’t Hirohito the imaged leader

With Japanese military command doing everything

[fading walrus]

Well yes Japan was run by a Cabal

Of military men

[hearty blade]

Yeah japan was lead by armed forces but mostly navy iirc army had less power cuz they had taken an L against the russians or something so they were seen as incompetent

[trim quartz]

Japan had a bunch of Prime ministers during the war I think

[outer whale]

They fixed it

[outer whale]

They were very anti hitler

[fading walrus]

That is Adolf Hitler commander of the third reich little known fact also dope on the mic

[trim quartz]

From 1936 - 1946, I think Japan had about 14 prime ministers, I think two served non consecutive terms

[outer whale]

I can't wait to properly see the alt historical trees

[thick edge]

Luxembourg tree

Better be a path to unite Europe ong

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ww2germany-german-war-dance-gif-24950310

[junior mural]

Peak

[hearty blade]

I would hate to be the PM for a country while theyre at war

Lol

[burnt sail]

You think there gonna be operation anthropoid to take out heydrich since hes getting added?

[trim quartz]

He is?

[mental onyx]

Focus: "German War Dance"
Effects when completed: All nations you are at war with capitulates.

[burnt sail]

Yea, as an adviser

[wary maple]

Is the Q&A happening?

[pseudo wing]

its slightly delayed because I am sick

its my bad, I''m supposed to be handling it but I can barely see at the moment

[wary maple]

Oh jesus

[pseudo wing]

I am okay, though, don't worry

I am just really congested and its giving me a migraine, and I get very blurry vision when I get a migraine

I will be perfectly fine, just can't read through hundreds of questions today haha

[solid gyro]

ay its okey chak, get well soon 🤍

[terse slate]

Get well soon

[terse slate]

What’s the q&a thing though

[quaint cliff]

How are people's thoughts so far ?

I'm looking forward to better and more reichskomi

Hearing nerf to german economy has me a bit corncerned for mp tho

It's pretty easy to lose as axis as is

but I respect that the game is balanced around sp

[pseudo wing]

the devs are gonna answer some questions regarding previous DD's among other things, I believe

[terse slate]

So not this dlc dev diaries?

Ig no that would be spoiling lol

[pseudo wing]

we have more than 1 QnA lined up afaik

[pseudo wing]

wdym

[terse slate]

Alright alright

[pseudo wing]

it'll be about Gotterdamerung

[terse slate]

Ooo

[pseudo wing]

if that is what you mean

[terse slate]

Where do i launch my questions though or are they already pre selected

[pseudo wing]

I'll be making a channel for it here, dw

[terse slate]

Alright awesome thanks

[pseudo wing]

there'll be instructions on how to do everything, I just couldnt get it done bc I was sick

[quaint cliff]

If you're sick don't work 🙂 that's what I do lol

[terse slate]

That’s fine hope you feel better soon

[pseudo wing]

I work from home, its not a bother

just have to pace myself

[quaint cliff]

gws anyway

[fresh cedar]

For some reason I thought Paradox would give plenty of sick time a year

[pseudo wing]

I am a contractor, I can give myself sick time if I want but then I am bored out of my mind

I enjoy working, its just a bit slower today

and this week

[fresh cedar]

Ah never considered you were a contractor

[severe compass]

That's an exceptionally cool title to have; "contractor". At least if you're 14 and just discovered Academi.

[fresh cedar]

It’s moreso a classification than a title

[obtuse ingot]

#insert Last of Us reference

[pseudo wing]

its just a different way of being payed or conducting one's self

[severe compass]

But then you stumble into the realization that there are also construction contractors.

And suddenly becomes much less cool.

[craggy cave]

i really wanna know how nukes got reworked

[fresh cedar]

ICBM loaded Nuclear Powered subs

Will this mean 1950’s German Reich will glass me

[craggy cave]

probably

[stable tusk]

They showed them off in the second DD

[pseudo wing]

construction workers are pretty cool imo

[stable tusk]

And the livestream

[fresh cedar]

They barely showed what nukes actually do

[severe compass]

I still want to know if this is a hint at something or not.

[pseudo wing]

I have done some construction work, its a tough job

[silent prism]

How many days per week are you allowed to work from home?

[pseudo wing]

....all of the days I work

[craggy cave]

no i mean, what damage they do etc

[pseudo wing]

I live in canada

[fresh cedar]

The fact you can just fire a nuke across the planet with impunity now kinda spooks me

[pseudo wing]

not sweden

[craggy cave]

probably is haha

[fresh cedar]

Typically that’s considered a very invasive question and in many countries is protected information

[silent prism]

I have a video of 4 year old me helping build another home for my family. I was carrying a bucket full of cement

And was saying "More, more, more"

[thick edge]

Imagine u have to fly to Sweden for work

[severe compass]

Wat

[silent prism]

Sorry, it just shooted out of me

Chak, if I offended you somehow, my sorries. No invasion intended

[craggy cave]

except the invasion of france

[pseudo wing]

If I was not comfortable answering I would not

but Joe is correct, technically you aren't supposed to ask, but I did not see any ill intention behind it, myself

[fresh cedar]

I’d be spooked if the game I was a forum mod for started spamming work related questions. Especially if the company who hired me doesn’t want people to know lol

[pseudo wing]

I'd better get my passport in that case dear lord that'd be such a waste of money and time

lmao

[fresh cedar]

I work in HR though so I’m naturally protective of information

[thick edge]

I think it’s a 3-5 hour flight across the Atlantic

[silent prism]

I love HR people

[fresh cedar]

I hope they bring back supersonic passenger jets

[craggy cave]

as a german, i dont understand how people in North America talk openly about money, but the line is drawn asking how much they are allowed to work from home

kinda baffles me

[severe compass]

I know a guy who moved to Canada to work as a trucker for a year and then came back to Sweden.

[pseudo wing]

its quite the reverse, actually

[fresh cedar]

Hybrid/Remote totally valid for sure

[pseudo wing]

we dont talk money, we talk time

[craggy cave]

here its opposite

its incredibly private asking how much money one has in germany

or how much one makes

[silent prism]

I am working in Germany, can relate

[fresh cedar]

How will an ICBM that can’t be interdicted compare to the current nukes

[thick edge]

I would talk about money but $4.23 ain’t much

[fresh cedar]

In most areas of the US it’s frowned upon to say that.

Like if someone’s asking how much you make, they tend to have bad motives

[pseudo wing]

I won't discuss in the open about money, however in private I do not mind, but then again a lot of people get touchy because some see it as a 'social status' to be making XYZ amount of money

all I care about is being compensated fairly for my efforts (which I am) and trying to do the best possible work at my job

which I hope people see

[fresh cedar]

Same

[craggy cave]

yeah that should be the goal

[silent prism]

My goal in job is to make peoples lives better

[hexed mango]

Made this edit stuff

[craggy cave]

besides, i find people cringe who boast about how much they make

[pseudo wing]

for perspective, I grew up very poor and now I do not need to worry where my next meal will go, and can help out my parents, I have reached the end goal I desired

[craggy cave]

can relate

[severe compass]

Without knowing you too well or being all that familiar with your efforts or workload, Mr. @pseudo wing, I can say that I was sufficiently impressed by your reaction to my mistaken chat mute to be in favor of you getting paid a good deal.

[fresh cedar]

My job goal is to protect my company from liability 😂 Basically garrison forces in HOI4 that prevent rebellion, but for a corporation

[silent prism]

Hahahahahaa

[thick edge]

My overall goal of life is to live

[craggy cave]

had days, where i didnt have a meal for some days at the end of a month

[pseudo wing]

pay me rn, or im taking you to HR!...wait

[craggy cave]

thankfully not anymore

[silent prism]

I was working in a bank, helping refugees get best services

[thick edge]

Good goal

[silent prism]

Now I an studying international law to support my people

[hexed mango]

My goal is world conquest

[fresh cedar]

Unfortunately we won’t have that raise in the budget this year. You’d love a pizza party though

[pseudo wing]

....deal

i actually really want pizza rn

[silent prism]

Do we coal FBI here?

[thick edge]

Who doesn’t

[severe compass]

They are already here.

[hexed mango]

Pizza is overrated

[severe compass]

No need to call them.

[silent prism]

Okay

[craggy cave]

i had Schnitzel

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure Hethr is an FBI AI

[silent prism]

That's good to hear

[pseudo wing]

I had to watch my parents skip meals, so its kinda soured a lot of holidays for me, its apart of the reason I encourage everyone to be smart about their money and if they, say, cannot afford a given DLC to try out the sub and determine the value of our products for themselves

[pseudo wing]

...not yet

[severe compass]

That's exactly what an FBI AI would say about someone to distract the general population from themselves.

[silent prism]

I always suggest people saving money if possible

Even if you have the possibility to buy something, at first safe money

[fresh cedar]

Why save money when Paradox dlc exists

[silent prism]

Who knows what happens tomorrow

[fresh cedar]

I can get ate by a bus tomorrow, might as well enjoy the DLC today 😏

[silent prism]

I don't say we don't need to buy them. I personally have everything from PDX i suppose

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-my-son-john-mulaney-saturday-night-live-proud-dad-thats-my-boy-gif-25067636

[craggy cave]

thats a good take imo. i feel like, when one has really experienced being poor, they have a more grounded sense of value and money

tho, i also experienced the opposite, where people, once they were financially secure, did buy stuff willy nilly

because they couldnt before

it is interesting

[ancient meteor]

If you walk there instead of using the bus, you can save money to buy more DLCs

[silent prism]

It is the same about food. My greatgrandpa survived Holodomor, He forced everyone to always finish food

[silent prism]

People are sometimes stupid if they get their money on money briefcase

[fresh cedar]

Did anyone see the H man got a new picture

[fresh cedar]

Was this

Now this

[severe compass]

yes.

[craggy cave]

same with my granddad. he had to eat a cat during ww2, because they was nothing left in Germany 1945. So he always made sure i would finish my meal

[fresh cedar]

Hope Senor H-man gets some Pagan Min drip

[craggy cave]

its more accurate now

[silent prism]

I always feel sorry for Germany in the end o ww2

[fresh cedar]

Well yeah his Iron Cross was like the Iron Giants S in size

[silent prism]

One German doctor saved another my greatgrandpa from Auswitz

[craggy cave]

it was also inaccurate

[hexed mango]

Heard story from some dude in croatia that during ww2 italian soldiers ate his grandma's cat

[silent prism]

I found his family a few months ago

Even had a small gift to them

[craggy cave]

the version on the pic wasnt given out until 1942 i believe

[fresh cedar]

Would be neat if his picture changed

[craggy cave]

yeah. it was very common sadly

[fresh cedar]

Like 1930’s brown shirt, then that for early 1940’s, and by 1945 looks ROUGH

[silent prism]

Actually, some mods do that, non?

So it is very much doable

[fresh cedar]

Think some do

Always bothered me how some of the children too perma stay children

[silent prism]

I love the changes around Peter

He can grow

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[severe compass]

I went there once. Would recommend. Bizarrely serene landscape that really makes you feel uneasy about the whole place, especially if you know the history and even if you don't, the guides make sure you get a fairly good idea of it.

[silent prism]

I had a mental breakdown there

[severe compass]

Unideal.

[silent prism]

I am a very emotional person, seing all those horrors...

[pseudo wing]

I will have to ask nicely to change the subject, not because it should not be learned from, but rather we shouldn't discuss it here (too heavy of a topic imo)

[severe compass]

Understood.

[silent prism]

Affirmative

[fresh cedar]

Knew that was coming 😂

[pseudo wing]

hey man, I might be sick but still gotta do the job

now where's that pizza party

[severe compass]

Man is committed to his duties

[silent prism]

We need to have a pizza party with devs one day

[fresh cedar]

They only had anchovies left sadly

Curiously wouldn’t do plain

[silent prism]

Like, large discord call

[pseudo wing]

nvm i am suing

[fresh cedar]

I feel like Swedes would make bizarre pizza

[severe compass]

We do.

[fresh cedar]

Instead of pepperoni, it’s 10 year old dried elk meat

[craggy cave]

in germany there was a chocolate pizza.

[fresh cedar]

Just because

[silent prism]

I have one image of Swedes in my head

[severe compass]

My sister once got french fries on her pinapple pizza, which was quite interesting.

[pseudo wing]

they make illegal pizza's with strawberries and bananas on it and stuff

very illegal

[fresh cedar]

Hawaiian isn’t terrible

[fresh cedar]

Just get a smoothie for god sakes

[craggy cave]

should be sued

[silent prism]

I was visiting Skaulo, in the beginning of February

[severe compass]

It's common to find them here, but they generally do not have french fries on them.

[severe compass]

Do tell.

[silent prism]

It was about -30

[fresh cedar]

Same

[silent prism]

And 4 swedes were sitting in an ice hole, drinking beer and being happy

Like, 4 dudes topless, -30 outside, beer

[fresh cedar]

The place by me has a Chuck Norris pizza, a Rodeo Pizza, and a American pizza

[silent prism]

I have Dominos close to me

But prefer making my own pizza

[severe compass]

I suppose it says a lot about my region that I am surprised by you being surprised at that.

[fresh cedar]

Dominoes has good sides atleast

[silent prism]

It is just an image

I love Sweden

Started learning it not long ago

14 days. going strong

Course is 5 months long

[fresh cedar]

Hey are any of you guys gonna use helicopters?

[severe compass]

Not sure if this is a thing elsewhere but it's a bit of a tradition around these parts; sauna -> ice bath -> sauna -> ice bath.

[severe compass]

Yes.

[silent prism]

At first we will have to see what it is

[severe compass]

Far more than I should because I am a logistical dyslexic.

[fresh cedar]

They’re support companies

Basically a better version of motorized support

[silent prism]

I am carpet bombing enjoyer

[fresh cedar]

I’ll probably only ever do nukes and aircraft tbh

[severe compass]

I am going to use the recon variant, personally. I rarely use supply company.

[severe compass]

My worst enemy.

[fresh cedar]

Infantry with air support 😤🤌

[fresh cedar]

Same, supply and medical rare for me

[silent prism]

Well, sorry(

[severe compass]

Although, I did just end a game where I played USA for a change and found it quite beautiful watching the strategic bomber animations on the map.

[fresh cedar]

They look way nicer since being updated

Looks like napalm strikes almost

[severe compass]

Which might prompt me to do the same again.

[silent prism]

If I play US - expect large amounts of SBs from me

Like, unholy amounts of them

[fresh cedar]

V2’s have also been given animations now

No longer flop on the ground like a hotdog

[silent prism]

I think I have a screenshot with 17k of them

I was doing nothing but them

[severe compass]

I want to use Strat bombers more, but my usual countries don't really have the industry to support that.

[silent prism]

Whom do you usually play?

[fresh cedar]

If you just keep 5-10 factories on them it can work

[severe compass]

Sweden lmfao

[fresh cedar]

Lowkey need 250+ factories to be able to support some strategic

[severe compass]

Or Germany, sometimes Britain, rarely anything else.

I guess Britain might be able to get away with it.

[silent prism]

I am USSR main, also love US, UK, Sweden, Romania

[solid gyro]

guys why all the updates, just make the game road to 56!

[fresh cedar]

Is USSR right communist without civil war still possible?

[solid gyro]

You ain't nothing like a broke.. boi boi boi boi

[silent prism]

I didn't understand your question

[thick edge]

I should do a air only nation

[fresh cedar]

The right wing Soviet government can coup Stalin without a civil war

[severe compass]

Isn't that what that dude who did a zero divisions conquest did?

[thick edge]

Air only UK in MP

[fresh cedar]

Or atleast used to be able to

[silent prism]

Oh

[thick edge]

Oh

[silent prism]

Still possible though, if you are lucky

[thick edge]

I almost did this

[silent prism]

If I recall it

[thick edge]

Only had 48 divs

10k planes

[fresh cedar]

Once had a 20k v 20k air battle over England

They were losing like 400 planes an hour or whatever

[thick edge]

I was 80% the reason Soviets didn’t roll over us

[silent prism]

Planes are good

[fresh cedar]

The addition of SuperSonics makes me happy

[silent prism]

But I still wish Sbs were a bit more hard hitting

Like, maybe a small chance that if a buildings is destroyed it can be actually deleted. What happened to Germany basically

Gotta go

[fresh cedar]

I mean Stability hit and temp damaging factories is pretty brutal

[severe compass]

Strategic bombers reduce stability?

[fresh cedar]

Lowers factory output and amount of factories producing

[fresh cedar]

By like 30% I believe if done for a while

[thick edge]

Lemme bomb Germany to 0 factories

[severe compass]

👀 You have my attencíon.

[kindred beacon]

I have a complaint about the German "befriend china" focuses
Chiang would never give up Qingdao to Germany. Should be replaced by economic concessions or maybe some factories from the state. But Chiang was an anti imperialist and would never give up more land to Europeans for any reason

[fresh cedar]

Strategic genuinely does hurt overtime

[kindred beacon]

This is a common misconception due to the CCP rewriting Chinese history and the post exile KMT becoming dependent on the USA

[fresh cedar]

I see it more as a German military base to help fend off Japan if anything

[kindred beacon]

While in power on the mainland Chiang and the KMT were Chinese nationalists who strongly opposed not only imperialism against China but all foreign colonization in Asia

[kindred beacon]

In that case it should be a temporary lease

And after Japan loses to China they should have to give it back or face a war

[fresh cedar]

A small concession for a massive victory

China would effectively gain dominion over Asia and fulfill its ultimate goals

For a port

And the nationalists weren’t a stranger to using foreign armies and equipment

[kindred beacon]

But it isn't faithful to their ideology

Chiang in hoi is basically a CCP narrative of him regardless

And confuses him with the deeply desperate and defeated man that emerged after his exile to Taiwan

[hearty blade]

Id love to join the debate but i didnt know who chiang was before i played hoi4🥲

[fresh cedar]

I think he’d be willing to make concessions to achieve his end goals honestly

[kindred beacon]

Was he corrupt? Yes. But all Chinese politicians were and are. Patronage is a standard part of Chinese politics since antiquity

[kindred beacon]

Not a permanent territorial concession

If he did that he would probably get killed by his own men btw

The Chinese at that time had already lost Hong Kong, Macao, Taiwan, and Manchuria to foreign colonizers

[hearty blade]

Way to ruin ur chances to ever visit beijing

[kindred beacon]

To give up more land would be seen as an act of treason

[fresh cedar]

It could be as long as he wanted. Probably would be a lease but in game represented as permanent until they fight

[kindred beacon]

Dude I am probably banned from China already, I literally defended Chiang

[kindred beacon]

Fair enough

I mean America should also return British colonies in the Caribbean after ww2 but that doesn't happen

[fresh cedar]

Is it giving up land though. If Germany takes the Northeast back for China, they still are far ahead

I think if Germany was like “We’ll retake and unite china for you” he’d absolutely trade a port for it

[kindred beacon]

Chiang joining the Axis isn't unthinkable but I think he would 100 percent demand not just getting his land back from the Allies and Japan

He would also want to have independent (under Chinese "guidance") states in the Asian colonies of the Allies

Which conflicts with the German desire for colonies there.

[fresh cedar]

I like to think that such a lease would end in the 1950’s

After the game ends

[kindred beacon]

Like Soviet lease of Dairen

[fresh cedar]

Along with the European Caribbean

[kindred beacon]

Chiang was also staunchly against imperialism and colonialism, as he opposed FDR's offer of China's seizure of Indochina and argued that China had no intent to replace Western imperialism with its own. He also viewed foreign powers, including the USA, the USSR, and the Empire of Japan as imperialist powers that wanted to exploit China.[15][16

I think he would not accept Germany getting any colonies in Asia, at least not within the nine-dash line

Say what you want about him but he was absolutely anti imperialist

[barren tusk]

bombing in hoi4 is bug. literally population does not decrease. Army does not die near due to the radiation etc...

no crops to feed army (supplies)

[signal cargo]

I cant say anything about the lack of radiation but i doubt hoi4 will ever let you kill civilians because theres still people today that were alive during the times of hoi4

[barren tusk]

so why you nuke?

what's the purpose

i though nuking cities was to decrease population, supplues, factories and army (if it was defending)

[signal cargo]

If you hit divisions directly itll cause a ton of damage to them supply wise and manpower wise but whatever state you hit gets a lot of buildings destroyed, much better than actual strat or tactical bombing

[barren tusk]

and thanks to the nuke does not decrease enemies air superiority

?

i get used to nuke either capitals or big cities near the division are defending

to destroy rails

[signal cargo]

If you ever get enough air superiority to nuke i recommend first hitting airports, itll decrease or stop them from deploying planes

Because they need to repair the airports first

[signal cargo]

Supply hubs are good to hit

[signal cargo]

If you reallly want an easy time nuke every division individually multiple times

Destroys the manpower and supplies

[stable tusk]

Fun Fact: if you get nukes while at war with Japan, you get two years to nuke them twice and then they'll surrender to you without needing to naval invade them

[barren tusk]

it's possible to capitulate a country only nuking?

yeah japan in history did

[stable tusk]

Well only Japan with that special even really, nukes do reduce the capitulation requirements but other than that no

[barren tusk]

can happend to Uk same=

??

i never use nuke because it's to late and i always finish my games after 1941 because of boredom, i lost or my objective was completed

[stable tusk]

Idk, I think you still need to Sealion for the UK

[barren tusk]

one day i should nuke luxebourg

[thick edge]

Nuke luxebourg

Not Luxembourg

[barren tusk]

funny

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/cyanide-and-happiness-distraught-shocked-diagnosis-gif-23623883

[barren tusk]

excuse me what the actual fhuck?????? 15 hours in hoi4 @thick edge 💀

[thick edge]

Hoi4 is life?

My brother is keep turning on games for my pc to mess up my hours and breaking the pc too

[barren tusk]

or maybe conquering 🧐

[gilded knot]

2nd June 1934

"Götterdämmerung"

[terse slate]

Theres so much more hidden requirements for them to accept though. It’s not just nuking them

iirc the hidden requirements were like, they must have less than 5 capital ships, you have to occupy okinawa and iwo shima. And their airforce also obliterated. Then you can nuke them twice and they send you a surrender

Im not sure if im missing any other requirements but its not so easy. Easier to just naval invade tokyo lol

[crisp cairn]

Anyone knows if the Habsburg Ukraine puppet will have some Focuses like for example Italian East Afrika?

[stable tusk]

Italian East Africa has the default focus tree

[chilly drum]

Here is this time again, cant touch HoI because how seemingly inferior current version is to whats coming with dlc.

Same with all other games from paradox.

[crisp cairn]

uh ok my bad, sorry. I just have a little hope for little focus tree

[fading walrus]

Makes sense

Japan surrendered because of a multitude of factors

The Atomic bomb droppings, the submarine blockade, Soviet invasion of Manchuria and Strategic bombing all come to mind

Japan got dog piled basically

[stable tusk]

Anybody know when the Q&A is?

[silent prism]

No?

[fresh cedar]

Probably Friday Q&A stream like last week

[fresh cedar]

Glad I’m not the only one. What I typically do is “one final run” of the main paths of countries getting updated before they do

So did German Empire and Austro-Hungarian run once more

[pseudo wing]

It should thursday, I believe

[thick edge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/RG3BeCcSQp

[outer whale]

isnt this almost same as the price of armored train

[thick edge]

I don’t have it memorized

Uhhh

No clue

[severe compass]

Roughly 3x the cost, but close.

[plucky crag]

armored train is 105

[thick edge]

Ratte divisions

[outer whale]

half of the price*

[plucky crag]

i wanna see the US get buffed because of scientist immigration

[severe compass]

Afaik they're going to be support companies, so unfortunately no Ratte division.

I still need to know if this is a hint or not :(

[thick edge]

+300% research speed for 50 days (15 PP)

[thick edge]

Dang it

[severe compass]

Also really hoping for an armoured car designer presuming you own both La Resistance and No Step Back.

I was very disheartened when I found out that wasn't a thing.

[burnt sail]

You think there gonna be operation anthropoid to take out heydrich since hes getting added?

[severe compass]

I think it's not going to be a player influenced thing, but as an event similar to Hess.

[burnt sail]

Yeah that seems likely

[outer whale]

preordered

[severe compass]

Neat.

[outer whale]

yes i now have all dlcs

expect TRA

[fallen kite]

I see they replaced the "Master Impact" localization

It was good that did that no one could figure out what it meant

[fresh cedar]

Isn’t that the statistic which slowly gets rid of a puppets autonomy?

[fallen kite]

yeah

Stalin has it

[fresh cedar]

Basically counters their focus tree one

Since any country can get +.1

[fallen kite]

well doesn't counter it just makes it harder

since the continous focus gives you +0.5

and the master impacts usually just give you -0.1

[fresh cedar]

For some reason thought it was more. Guess it’s moreso just for gradual annexation

I always just build 30 lvl 10 forts in a puppet

[fallen kite]

Yeah makes it easier to keep your puppets in check without needing to do the suppress autonomy focus

[fallen kite]

like say you didn't want to do that but didn't want to annex your puppet

having it continuously happen no matter what would be good cause as long as you aren't trading with them or fighting in a war it'll tick back down naturally

no need to lend lease or build forts

[fresh cedar]

Wonder if the new Reichkommisariats will be more like collaboration governments

But yeah always found Master Impact to be strong

Compliance gain probably the most OP one

[outer whale]

More like if imperial germany gonna have mittelafrika as well

Guys

How do u want to see the belguim as

[fresh cedar]

I mean historical will have it too

[outer whale]

Lime what should it have

[fresh cedar]

I’d like Belgium to play similarly to Portugal.

[outer whale]

Benelux path guantreed

But

What else

[fresh cedar]

Decent military, but amazing colonial buffs

[outer whale]

Maybe galvanize the flemish part of the country?

[fresh cedar]

Since the Congo is gonna be a thing it’s definitely getting colonial stuff

[outer whale]

Basically making it one single centralised state

Under the flemish

Wow we got 2 path

[fresh cedar]

Benelux yes, monarchist colonial path yes

[outer whale]

Flemish playthrough

Wallonia playthrough

[fresh cedar]

Communist Benelux with ignite communist civil war in France, yes

[outer whale]

Wallonia = cores benelux and france

Flemish: cores benelux and Germany ( probs HRE borders )

Or being collaborator

[fresh cedar]

Idk about Belgium being an HRE polity

I think it’s legit just gonna be heavy on colonial stuff

[outer whale]

If flemish part seizes the power

Maybe we can core some parts of Germany

[fresh cedar]

I mean, maybe?

[solid gyro]

wait they put the treaty with the ussr after the MR pact 😭

no more 1940 chassis in 1938 😭

[fresh cedar]

Yup

[outer whale]

NOOO

[fresh cedar]

And treaty only lasts 2 years, so just gives breathing room to eat England

If the UK ever gets a similar army rework with the 3 branches I already know it’s airforce and navy gonna be cracked

[silent prism]

I dunno why

But I have a feeling that RKs will have a small shared focus tree

Just the gut feeling

[silent prism]

Brittannia rules the waves

[fresh cedar]

I’d be fine if Belgium just played like Portugal honestly

Would be neat if it had an EU tree that unites Europe. But has shared tree like Scandinavian one, and makes Russia invade. So for half the war fighting a losing battle until you can stop them

(Until your finish enough focuses to remove debuffs)

[silent prism]

I would love to see something in that line

Also, I do really want to see something in ties to Spain

[fresh cedar]

Hungary can put a ton of Habsburgs in control of countries including Spain

Seems to play similarly to the French path for Chile

Conquer, puppet via decision, stonks

[fresh cedar]

All the countries seem to get war goals on it 😂

[silent prism]

I love Habsburg in Ukraine

[fresh cedar]

The Mexico one is cool too

[pseudo wing]

I saw what you said, joe, though Telegram is blocked for people typing it out due to the bot scammers

I'll just copy paste your comment for you

"Reminds me of the Zimmerman telegram"

[obtuse ingot]

Luxembourg

[thick edge]

why is teIegram blocked

[pseudo wing]

telegram scambots, happens a lot more than you'd think

especially because a lot of the platfrom is unregulated

[trim quartz]

I bet there’s going to be an achievement similar to Soviet onion where you as Hungary have to be surrounded by puppets controlled by Habsburg’s

[stable tusk]

Habsburger

Wait a minute

That's actually good

[hearty blade]

yeah that would be cool asf

i like that

[stoic mist]

One thing that's going to be fun as Germany: motorized with Stormtroopers for more breakthrough. Fast, somewhat dangerous, and easy to support. Ought to be fun...

[plucky crag]

Who ghost pinged me?

[severe compass]

Why the hell did the Germans have to smoke so much crack

It's so annoying to be spontaneously reminded of their batshit insane out-of-place-for-the-era projects.

SdKfz 303 Goliath, Ruhrstahl X-4/X-7, Wasserfall, Fritz X...

God damn lunatics

[stoic mist]

Honestly? It fits. Instead of having tons of late-game piles of units, maybe now Germany can either build war-winning superweapons or die trying. If nothing else, it'll hopefully be something different.

[severe compass]

It does fit, but it's annoying to be thrown into constant "oh right, the germans"-moments.

[thick edge]

Sir, steiners counterattack never happened

HANS BUILD ZE RATTE

[severe compass]

What if Steiners Counterattack really was all the kameraden you made along the way?

[thick edge]

real

[solid gyro]

Will Operation Margarethe and Panzerfaust be added

Like they did mention in the dev diaries that Hungary tried to make peace with the soviets

But will you actually be able to do that

Like you have to make peace and exit the war before operation Margarethe and Panzerfaust

[fallen kite]

we'll save the eastern front once we get enough training to deploy the Ratte

trust me it'll 100% work

the ratte does not have a blind spot 100 meters wide

[obtuse ingot]

I think they should rearrange the calendar

IMO:

• Alt Hist Germany: Oct 21st
• German Systems: Oct 23rd
• Raids: Oct 28th
• Small Features: Oct 30th
• Belgium: Nov.4th
• Congo: Nov 6th

Makes more sense

[tired bloom]

i think small features is coming october 21st now

[stable tusk]

Raids and Small Features got swapped btw

[thick edge]

No

[obtuse ingot]

Historical Germany & Alt History Germany should go together

[trim quartz]

The art looks awesome, and I love the effort they’re putting into this project

[polar jasper]

Here is alt history germany

Was in the Germany dev diary so they in fact did go together

[trim quartz]

Devs posted a low quality image intentionally

[stable pumice]

reworked germany focus tree?? crazy
🔥

[fallen kite]

COMMUNISM

[stable tusk]

We didn't get our biweekly Q&A?

[vagrant plank]

COMMUNIST GERMAN PATH IS REAL

[robust herald]

what the sigma?!??!

[robust herald]

is this fr?

[stable tusk]

Yes

[worn depot]

Decided to make a graph of what I think the sections are along with some odd details V.3

[nimble torrent]

Yellow could be "foreign/European/minor policy"
And the one on the right could be "Major/overseas policy"
P e r h a p s

Asking this again cause I might have missed the answer 💀

[worn depot]

Yeah, Im noticing a lot of sword icons (aka war or aggressive) on the yellow section

[worn depot]

theyll probably talk about it more in German systems

[nimble torrent]

Hm yeah true

[worn depot]

Honestly I feel like the inner circle is like the German alternative to balance of power, its way more flexible with more sides it can go to

[mental onyx]

I wonder if the inner circle mechanic will be only for germany. It will be nice for other nations to have it like the USSR.

[vocal vault]

But the ussr got a rework not long ago so i think it will take time. And Germanys inner circle was like get only people in that say yes and you like

[shut plume]

@vague oasis

@mossy void

[craggy cave]

why tho?... i wanted to learn about the nuke rework

[mental onyx]

it could just be a smaller update to the tree and not a complete rework.

[signal cargo]

Im sure itll be a bit more work than a small updates they had done to australia or canada where they either change or add a few focuses, maybe you should mod your idea

[signal cargo]

You still will, just gotta wait a little longer

[craggy cave]

at what time is the stream today?

[bronze stream]

Would it make sense to have it? Hitler's Germany was controlled by the ppl in the inner circle later on, which wouldn't really apply to Stalin's Russia
He was the leader and nobody could really sway him in doing anything, as he was the one calling the shots and choosing the targets

[fallen kite]

Didn’t Stalin have that whole thing where he would decide to shoot his closest and best advisors for no reason and without warning?

[sudden cipher]

thats in the game alr

wym

[nimble torrent]

Inner circle but the people you put in it have a 1% chance to die each day

[fallen kite]

Yeah that’s why you don’t give him the inner circle he’ll just shoot them

[mental onyx]

The people in the inner circle of the USSR could be high ranking members of the politburo but I can't see the logic of the USSR inner circle mechanic being similar to germany. It could be a more simplified version compared to the one in germany

[nimble torrent]

if they really had to add a new mechanic to the soviets i'd prefer having something about the supreme soviet
maybe close to the mussolini missions
but even then
not really worth it

[obtuse ingot]

It would likely be similar only in that you would have more RP versatility. Political infighting … assassination attempts… who leads the nation after.

Similar to UK, USA, or resistance group inner circles.

Mostly there for RP aspect

Yes… resistance group inner circles… just in case your group leader gets taken out

[old pendant]

i cant wait till the achievements get announced:D

[pseudo wing]

Raids and Small Features was swapped to give the rest of the devs more time with the Raid DD

[severe compass]

Anyone know when the stream is today?

[pseudo wing]

in about an hour, should be

[severe compass]

Got it, thank you, Canadia man

[old pendant]

there should be an achievement where you need to occupy hamburg and burgen(R)land as the usa. it would be pretty iconic imo

[obtuse ingot]

I just think there shouldn’t be as big a gap between historical & alt history Germany… the two would work off each other

[pseudo wing]

It's to space it out properly, I can understand not wanting wait for it but even as the main country of the DLC, the devs should still go over everything else

[craggy cave]

will the rework of nukes be part of the DD on Monday or of the raid one?

[thick edge]

Ghost ping

Nvm

[pseudo wing]

discord deleted the previous one by accident for some reason, not a ghost ping just an oops lmao

[solid gyro]

holy wiener schnitzel the new hungarian tree is massive

[calm bramble]

Official communist germany path before gta6

[outer whale]

belguim got new states!!

[fading walrus]

Lets go!!!

Do you have monarchist images

[solid gyro]

more importantly Unternehmen Seelöwe

hot

the b i g b o y

the R A T

lol

t h e R A T

[craggy cave]

https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive/clip/ConsiderateToughDragonfruitTwitchRaid-Lwmul4sn9wLTIeFu

choice between Heavy water and uranium for nukes

[solid gyro]

the horse looks taller 🤣

[exotic kelp]

so the land cruiser AKA THE RATTE is not a combat unit?

[solid gyro]

support equipment

[exotic kelp]

alr

id be better to be combat unit

[solid gyro]

who would win?
a 1000 tonne mega tank that can vaporise anything on its way
or
J U A N

[mortal thunder]

i really hate the overbloat of MIO just give me 1 tree which brancing buffs for specific things i dont need 4 diffent mio for the exact same thing, just make some nodes more expensive for greater buffs

have synergy nodes instead per company so unlocking 6 nodes of x company branch gives increasing bonuses

[dark glen]

joe biden

[fading walrus]

Well I would prefer if we did have several MIOs but they are more unique and make the player choose depending on their play style/build

More variations with templates would be nice too

[mortal thunder]

condense all mio into one table with more nodes per company and branch

[severe compass]

No thanks.

[fading walrus]

Given how tank destroyers got a ton of kills irl

They should be more useful

[mortal thunder]

i dont wanna have to level 5 different mio at the same time but unlocking a unified military complex in different ways. company flavors can still exist per branches wether u add more to subs or cruisers

[fading walrus]

Tbh that sounds like a skill issue or you just have a lazy mind

[nimble torrent]

that would mean adding 1 massive tree, which might be harder to navigate

[severe compass]

Pretty much that.

I would rather have smaller MIOs that I can choose from to fit my playstyle and approach.

[mortal thunder]

how is excessive clicking and lots of different windows a matter of skill?

[polar jasper]

Someone doesn't like specialization

[fading walrus]

Your adding bonuses

[polar jasper]

That vary per whatever equipment you are producing

[severe compass]

Just because the MIOs exist, doesn't mean you have to actively interact with each and every one of them.

[fading walrus]

This

[polar jasper]

Last time I checked, the Detroit Tank Factory isn't great at making B-17s

[molten vault]

Lets go

Lets hope this stream isnt at 1028 ping and 240p

[polar jasper]

You choose which MIOs you want to give the contract to

[severe compass]

Besides, there is a trait queue and auto-upgrade mechanic for MIOs.

[mortal thunder]

its redundant to have exact same tree with 5% armor for light medium heavy, fast infantry multirole tanks
same with light carrier tacitcal cas trees when majority of actual things could just apply for all of a 5% boost to agility or so

[outer whale]

HOW

[polar jasper]

I hardly use trait queue because it doesn't auto update my equipment

I only do it for one's that boost production efficiency and such

[nimble torrent]

they should absolutely be reworked, the bonuses are not particularly differentiated or meaningful
but i'd still prefer different mios with different bonuses instead of a single massive tree

[severe compass]

I sometimes use trait queue and practically never auto-upgrade.

[mortal thunder]

well thats the thing why pay for a dlc when im encouraged to not even use it and just play tall on one thing

[severe compass]

Because micro-management is my drug of choice.

[fading walrus]

Also second question why did you post an Archwarhammer video?

Because he is a neo nazi irl

[polar jasper]

Huh, wdym not use MIOs

[mortal thunder]

what? i havnt posted a video

[severe compass]

Because players have different playstyles and may want to explore other playstyles, as such, the amount of MIOs seem justified. The bonuses granted by them, however, may be slightly underwhelming.

[polar jasper]

Maybe he was playing kaiserreich US where they have like 3 of the same type of MIO

Like 3 support company mios

[fading walrus]

I was talking about the one yesterday

[mortal thunder]

different MIO and company in same branch with node bonuses every 3 nodes to a certain MIO gives higher bonuses with funding. trees are like focuses with intercontected branching and exclusives
like 5% agility for all then 5% speed then a 10% bonus to either light or medium

[polar jasper]

That isn't how companies work last time I checked

Maybe just pick Chrysler and call it a day with your tanks because for some reason you have to do a focus for Detroit Tank Factory to get a barebones MIO

That is my problem with MIOs, ones locked behind a focus

[polar jasper]

It was fine when it was just 150pp for flat stats, but when you have to build it up, that is annoying

[severe compass]

Also

This makes me ridiculously optimistic.

As a certified and experienced paratrooper addict, upgradable transport planes have been on my wishlist for quite some time.

Still curious about what the other branch is meant to be though.

[nimble torrent]

yoo
shit's crazy for the paradropbros

[nimble torrent]

probably improve the efficiency of transport planes?
like it takes less to move each div

[severe compass]

Yessir, also notice the MIO icon in the lower left corners. Maybe finally a designable transport plane? 👀

[severe compass]

Could be, I figure either that or maybe gliders in some way.

[nimble torrent]

mios already do get bonuses from mios, mind you

[nimble torrent]

i'd love it personally
being able to pay more potentially but bring some heavier firepower would be great

[severe compass]

Agreed, I made a suggestion about it on the Paradox forums a few days ago: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/paratrooper-rework.1710028/

Would be really good to have gliders be more prevalent and not just a combat ability.

[mortal thunder]

tbh transport planes should be removed completely and just have a component for mediums and large, hercules planes were made in 54 so late game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NLHmBrms70
ww2 had 50mm cannons on mediums as cas tank destroyers

[severe compass]

Yet another take from you that I do not agree with in the slightest.

[mortal thunder]

completey missing the point of the video about a pdx own community statement.
i have no idea about the channels personal life or opinions

[fading walrus]

I think you missed the point on my statement

Why would you give a neo nazi or a tankie views

[severe compass]

In his defence, how was he supposed to know the video author was a neo nazi if he doesn't know about the channel owner's "personal life or opinions"?

I don't know about you but I certainly do not conduct a background check on every video creator I stumble across.

[fading walrus]

Same but I heard bad stuff bout him

Like really bad

[severe compass]

But, on the flip side, if you don't know the channel, you shouldn't attribute too much credibility to it as a source.

[fading walrus]

Agreed

[severe compass]

"I heard bad stuff about him" is arguably the worst excuse I have ever heard. So you made zero attempt at finding out if what you heard was true?

[fading walrus]

I sent you a screenshot

I dmed it

[severe compass]

That's completely illegible due to how small the image is, and furthermore, I don't really care anyways.

[fading walrus]

Fine

[severe compass]

Sorry if I am coming off as rude, it's not intentional.

[fading walrus]

Its okay

I had a bad experience with a YouTuber I liked and it turned out he was a massive fan of Stalinism

And he denied all the bad stuff that happend

He ended up sending his followers to cyber stalk me for months

Thats why I got angry about this @severe compass

[severe compass]

No worries.

As a rule I just stop interacting/listening to individuals who clearly lack fundamental knowledge of what they are talking about.

[fading walrus]

Thats a good rule

[stable tusk]

NOOOOOOO 😭

[nimble torrent]

L I E S

[stable tusk]

Well some of the Communist focuses for Germany have been leaked

[pseudo wing]

its not a leak if we show them

lmao

[stable tusk]

It is if it's by accident

Or is it?

Idk anymore

Accidental leaks by the devs

[pseudo wing]

its not by accident lmao

we just didn't go into detail about it

gives you something to think about at the very least before we actually go over it in a future DD

[stable tusk]

How can I trust you on that? Hmmmm?

[pseudo wing]

because if it was by accident, we'd have deleted that part of the vod

[stable tusk]

But I'm still sad no Luxembourg, unless that was a lie?

Is everything a lie?

[stable tusk]

Good point

[pseudo wing]

the Cake is a Lie

[stable tusk]

Idk what to believe anymore

[worn depot]

That’s very nice since the alternate Germany paths are like one of the last dev diaries

[worn depot]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thick edge]

Noooo

My life serves purpose

I live for Luxembourg

[obtuse ingot]

Is the pope randomized?

[silent prism]

No

I was just eating a cake

[solid gyro]

No Luxembourg but Lichtenstein!?

Literally 1984

[solid gyro]

Wdym randomized? in the livestream there wasnt anything shown about the pope

Paradox refuses to acknowledge the importance of Luxemboug to the war effort

[silent prism]

We all forget that Luxemburg destroyed like 85% of the Wehrmacht

[thick edge]

Real

[solid gyro]

Luxembourg was a secret superpower but no one talks about that

[silent prism]

What do you mean was?

Still is
@solid gyro

[solid gyro]

True

[solid gyro]

Germany had to sacrifice the only prototype of Die Glocke to defeat them

[silent prism]

And still they almost failed

Speaking of, I haven't seen in prototypes, do we get Die Glocke as Wunderwaffe?

[solid gyro]

Who doesnt remember the battle of luxembourg in which germany lost 40 infantry divisions against the brave luxembourg defenders

and even counterattacked for a short while into germany

[silent prism]

Wait, not Die Glocke

[solid gyro]

You mean die ratte as the prototype?

[pseudo wing]

and you didnt share

what da hell

[silent prism]

Sorry, my friend got killed, it was celebrating him getting to the better world

Will share the other though

As soon as I get it

[silent prism]

Non

I wanted to see Haunebu

If I am allowed to post here

[solid gyro]

Oh that thing

[silent prism]

Yes

[solid gyro]

ngl would be funny do see it in game

[silent prism]

Paradox, please?

Though, it is too powerful according to it's description

[solar yoke]

Gotta wait like 2 months after the dlc releases, and im quite certain someone will add a meteorblitzkreig mod to hoi4 or millenium dawn

[silent prism]

If I won't be lazy, I can do it
But I hate doing 3D models

[hexed mango]

where is the crystal meth focus for germany

[solid gyro]

Yk what would be even more funny? the german ufos from iron sky idk what they are called in that but imagine them as a new fighter for air in the late game

[obtuse ingot]

🤔 would the shoah work as a national spirit? Like a negative modifier to manpower and increased production cost?

[silent prism]

This one?
@solid gyro

[solid gyro]

Yeah

[silent prism]

The same thing

Haunebu

[silent prism]

Hmm

@pseudo wing speaking of Cake, what is your favourite?

[pseudo wing]

Marble

or basic vanilla if I cant get marble

[silent prism]

Oh yes

That's good

[pseudo wing]

its the icing that makes or breaks cake for me

I dont like most of them, since they hurt my stomach

[silent prism]

Ouch

[pseudo wing]

but just some plain marble cake with icecream 👌🏻 is real nice

[silent prism]

I love almost all cakes
Hate the pumpkin cake though

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_VZ-9_Avrocar

[pseudo wing]

well thats easy, pumpkin cake is not a thing and if someone tries to tell you it is, report them to the police bc that is a crime

lmao

[silent prism]

Eye-eye

[pseudo wing]

friends dont let friends eat pumpkin 'cake'

[solid gyro]

Well i hope that we get the ho229 as a 3d Model cause it was developt it just was too late to change anything

[stable tusk]

Created by Avro Canada
Made by the US
Why can't Canada have nice things?

[pseudo wing]

we do

we have nice things

we just dont have the money for the nice things

lmao

[silent prism]

Wdym you don't have money for nice things?
You have a pocket nearby, as the US

Bad joke, sorry

[pseudo wing]

naw not a bad joke, just a tad incorrect, considering we are indeed trade partners that doesnt help our economy in the slightest at the moment

but I wont get into laws/economic policies etc

[silent prism]

I missed my chance to get a guaranteed visa to Canada

But still, Canada, afaik gas a lot of nice things

[pseudo wing]

as with every country, there are positives and negatives

i really like the natural beauty of my country, except in a few places, but its overall nice if you know where to go

[silent prism]

I still have a list of things to visit in Canada

If I may ask, Chak
What is your most liked feature in the upcoming dlc?

[pseudo wing]

I like something that is in the German Systems DD that is coming up next week, can't say it just yet, though

its not a super important feature by any means but I think it adds a nice touch

[silent prism]

I will remember to try to guess

Haha

[pseudo wing]

its a very small addition, most people, I don't think, will think too much about them, but it adds some nice flavour to the game as a baseline

[silent prism]

I love small features

[obtuse ingot]

I thought it was because Canada’s toys were taken away… bc reasons.

[pseudo wing]

Canada has inspired a large amount of lists, not all of them are... nice

[silent prism]

I should go, have a nice morning, day, evening, night, late night, etc

[stable tusk]

Well, yes, but we want them back

[obtuse ingot]

🤔There was a Canadian tv show when I was a kid about a world ruled by kids (everyone under 16)… had a young Ryan Reynolds in questionable uniform

https://preview.redd.it/ryan-reynolds-in-the-odyssey-a-legend-was-born-v0-kfndztnfs7rb1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=48a80c22941ee0ca6e43718b4522e1da5db70259

[stable tusk]

That looks like generic bad guy uniform

[obtuse ingot]

Yes.

A Canada ran by PM Ryan Reynolds though….

[stable tusk]

It's obviously inspired by the irl bad guy uniforms but grey/black uniform are pretty standard for movie evil guys

[obtuse ingot]

It’s weird how ww2 changed how we think of color… papers probably written about it

[stable tusk]

Well black and grey probably still would've been used for bad guys in movies, they're dark colours that people associate negative ideas with

[indigo citrus]

is the art for this DLC being made in house, or is it out sourced to Rocket Brush again?

[fallen kite]

I mean way it looks probably made in house

[indigo citrus]

it looks the same as the last 2 dlcs which im pretty sure was done by Rocket Brush

☝️

[neat crystal]

Reposting same image

[solid gyro]

thats more like repairing from the civil war

[open vault]

hope monarchist gets a secret tree like romanov

i want a victoria tree

lets call it victorias secret

[terse slate]

They leaked the alt history germany in the dev diary video xdd

« Oops i wasn’t supposed to show that » LOL

[stable tusk]

Chak decided to roast me for thinking it was an accident 😢

[terse slate]

😭

[sharp mantle]

doesnt the alt history germany dev diary come out next week

[stable tusk]

2 weeks

Actually

One sec

[terse slate]

It was an accident he’s just trying to gaslight u

[stable tusk]

3 weeks

Raids and Small Features were swapped around

[sharp mantle]

link?

[polar jasper]

It is in the developer comments of the historical germany dev diary

[sharp mantle]

ok

[outer whale]

chak
if there was a hoi4 tournament
and you being canada
who would u want to play as UK

anyone u know

[worn depot]

Did they cut it from the vod? earlier someone said it wasn’t a leak cause they would’ve removed it from the vod if it was

[worn depot]

Wait, Volkskommissariats?????

[obtuse ingot]

I asked earlier and not many responded… what do you guys think of the Shoah as a German National Spirit?

[worn depot]

Does that mean communist reichskommissariat type puppets???

[obtuse ingot]

Reduction of manpower, production cost/time increase

[sharp mantle]

i don't think it's that hard to figure out that including the h-l-caust as a national spirit is a bad idea

[obtuse ingot]

Great Depression is a national spirit

[pseudo wing]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

no idea

I am not good at competitive

[outer whale]

then how about it was

players vs ai

then who would u want to see the UK player as

anyone youtuber someone u know hoi4 devs etc etc

[worn depot]

Hmm from what I’m seeing in the image here, Spartacus is like social democracy/ socialism while the other side will be full on communism

[pseudo wing]

I enjoy seeing Midge play the game...and then confuse him at the same time considering I will throw random strategies and make him lose concentration

it'd be fun

I am Chaos personified lmao

[obtuse ingot]

The goal would be to not have that national spirit because of its negative effect.

You get rid of it by being at peace for some amount of time… or puppeting Madagascar, or British Mandate of Palestine before 1940

[pseudo wing]

We will not be adding a mechanic that simulates or 'Game-ifies' such an event

[sharp mantle]

can you please just shut up

like actually

[hollow coral]

Liechtenstein adding to the game?

[outer whale]

loll

[wary geyser]

no

[hollow coral]

Bro is not a dev🤣

[pseudo wing]

he is now

i've made it so

[hollow coral]

Gulp

Chak please confirm

[pseudo wing]

Trappedslider the dev, chop chop, do some... dev.. things?

[hollow coral]

Im waiting

[wary geyser]

sorry NDA prevents me from doing mroe than saying no

[obtuse ingot]

So it’s the case that “in game” takes place in a reality where the events were avoided entirely… and the events of ww2 played out the same. Except for that

[hollow coral]

☃️

[pseudo wing]

the new dev is a genius i swear

[hollow coral]

They are not adding the h caust to the game

😭

[hollow coral]

Ikr

[pseudo wing]

that is not the point.

And this is the last time I will say it: WE WILL NOT ADD SUCH A MECHANIC OR GAME-IFY SUCH KINDS OF THINGS

[wary geyser]

i'm new here, so i didn't know if i was allowed to answer others questions, sorry 🥺

[hollow coral]

It ok i was a bit harsh

[wary geyser]

I just repeated what the devs said on reddit