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[obtuse ingot]

Q3 2025 Seize the Suez

Syria, British Mandate, Egypt, Morocco, Guinea (Navy mechanics)

[brazen ferry]

Why Guinea

[obtuse ingot]

Postmaster

[tacit sequoia]

not gonna happen

japan is definitely next

[trim quartz]

Current one is Germany, next one is Middle East which is confirmed, after that Asia, then colonies and other nations

[stable tusk]

Not really Middle East, more South Asia + Gulf

[hollow coral]

They are not giving bhutan and nepal a tree😭🙏

[trim quartz]

Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, and the Raj

[stable tusk]

They're giving India and Afghanistan (South Asia) and Iraq and Iran (Gulf)
If you say Middle East people are gonna assume countries like Saudi Arabia are included

[trim quartz]

Yeah so those parts

[trim quartz]

I always think of the Middle East as the countries I just listed, Saudi Arabia and all those other countries I would put them into the category of just “Arabia”

[stable tusk]

You think of India and Afghanistan as Middle East?
Well ok I guess

[hollow coral]

You said south asia🤷‍♂️

[trim quartz]

Afghanistan yes, India I forgot to take out, no I don’t think India is middle eastern

[hollow coral]

India is south asia

[stable tusk]

The Raj controls India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Myanmar
South Asia is only missing two tiny countries that didn't do anything except sit around during the war

[trim quartz]

Yes

[trim quartz]

are you mentioning Siam?

[stable tusk]

Siam is Southeast Asia

[hollow coral]

Will they release more countries like egypt, jordan and palestine

They were mandates like iraq

Technically semi independent

[trim quartz]

I think they’ll only do Egypt

[trim quartz]

Read it wrong

[hollow coral]

Im pretty sure syria was also a french mandate

Cant wait for the achievement to capitulate either soviets or uk as afghanistan😭

[trim quartz]

I forgot they add new achievements

Darn what’s the new ones going to be

[hollow coral]

I need to finish the last germany achievements i need

Dont die for danzig

And dont die for your country

I think thats what they called

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Postmaster

we might get something like it with Raiding anyways

[subtle storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/546763235051700314/938776297377759232/4F7EE59E-84EF-4310-A248-BC1C78B9AF64-6.gif

I just hope they add Freakybob pay and John pork arc

[thick edge]

real

[crude garnet]

Nice better portraits

[trim quartz]

Looks like they’ve made new ones for Todt, Goering, not Himmler yet that his advisor portrait, Goebbels, Hess, and Bormann

And Speer

[crude garnet]

very cool

I will be saving

[arctic quartz]

Wonder if they’re gonna add something for dönitz

[trim quartz]

Maybe if you’re losing the war and everyone is dead

[trim quartz]

Yeah and also looks like you can make some of Hitler’s other goons replace him

[crude garnet]

very gamer

[mental onyx]

Petition for steiner to become leader of germany if they successfully push back the enemy

[paper estuary]

Afterall, no Czechoslovakia tree overhaul

I hope we are getting some East-West Germany content with this expansion

[silk jacinth]

Why am I excited for there reichkommsarits

Honestly I cannot wait for the new one like may be Rommel can have Lybia or Egypt

And you have to balance the SS if you want to give them there own land

Also the idea of local governments for the reichkommsarits sounds cool

[silk jacinth]

Miss opportunity to have Saudi Arabia instead of the ray, and then the tan, Siam, and Dutch East Indies have there own country pack

[sudden roost]

Mod or update?

[visual wraith]

from the steam page of the dlc

[sudden roost]

https://youtu.be/vfpjRVIo9X8?si=r61JH-77eOQTgHI1

It would have been so 🗿 to put an instrumental version of teufelslied over this

https://youtu.be/X35yPqws-vk?si=Q3djRNiNLhHD-l4b

STRENG GEHEIM

The made TNO canon 💀💀💀💀💀

[still coral]

He looks handsome 🥰

[tardy owl]

did you just say canon in a ww2 game

yeah we're cooked bro

[still coral]

The Germans made some comically big super cannon didn't they

Im not talking about the schwerher gustav

[sudden roost]

among us

[sudden roost]

they will all be victims to omsk

[sudden roost]

🗿

[hardy breach]

I hope there's post-war content for Germany too

[still coral]

I think some parts of the focus tree have already been leaked

[jaunty yacht]

I mean they are the store promo photos

[hardy breach]

They cooked with this one

[sudden roost]

they really did

holy shit

this is awesome

[hexed mango]

Most likely since they basically worked or reichskomissariats hard

[weak geyser]

Does anyone know the pricing of the new dlcs? I am going to get the new expansion and country pack but i don't care a single bit about the 3d model stuff since it doesnt add anything new to the gameplay for me. Ill get the expansion pass if the pass price is <= the price of the two dlcs separately so I'd appreciate it if somehow either does the math or gives me the numbers to do the math 🙂

[cosmic tinsel]

what was the release date for the dlc

[trim quartz]

Only the expansion pack price has been released, 52.80AUD for me (still buying it rip my wallet) but the individual prices I’m not sure. They aren’t on the steam pages I believe

However I would assume, and is the reason why I bought the expansion pack, is that the pack is less expensive than buying the dlcs individually

Plus you get content for next year

[weak geyser]

its 80% off of all content in the pack which includes the models

which like i said I don't care for at all

[trim quartz]

And even though the models may not matter, or be something you care about, it probably still is cheaper

[trim quartz]

I’ll check the store page again

[weak geyser]

so assuming that the expansion and country dlc is the same as always ($20 and $15 respectively), i would save $2 if i just buy the 2 separately

which now that i think about it is not alot, especially compared to the overall price

oh well, I do like ride of the valkyries, so $2 for the music ingame and some cosmetics isnt too bad I suppose

[trim quartz]

I just like to buy everything there is, so it differs whether people want some extras or not

[jaunty yacht]

25 and 15 dollars for the geman and middle east one respectively

They commented them on the last diary

It's better to buy the pack since it's 35, you save 5 , and Ride of the Valkyries is amazing

And yes the German dlc is the most expensive one ever

[steep shuttle]

14 november

[cosmic tinsel]

thx

[barren tusk]

dude i need to forget that a DLC is coming to be days faster

i am very excited so i can't stop believing what to do in my matches

[mortal thunder]

can i petition an achievement called slava ukrani. where u as banderas form reichkommisariat ukraina choose play as puppet from a german main game use the puppet to dismantle soviet and avenge the holodomor

[wise karma]

Waiting for Nuclear War in Multiplayer

[tacit sequoia]

No you’d have to claim Kievan Rus instead of European Russia.

[open crown]

Achievement: "you're gonna regret that": as reichkomissariat ukraine have Bandera as your leader and pick "brutal reperations" in the Volhynia regions

[trim quartz]

Achievement: “Why” capitulate the USSR with one camelry division as Saudi Arabia

[obtuse ingot]

That sounds good too

[mortal thunder]

u would never consolidate a new superpower like this but instead balkanize. novogorod, ukraine, musovite, belarus, ostland, kazakstan

i really hope they split all major cities into 3-5 provinces and give urban higher entrenchment. make stalingrad hell. make siege of berlin hell.

[hollow coral]

looks like elect a deocratic king will still do absolutely nothing

[mortal thunder]

you guys think we will a new ui panel for managing the dussins RK puppets. u think there will be interactions like selling liscenses to them for civs, getting production bonuses.
you think there will be a SS minigame of expanding it like MIO

[barren tusk]

probably next DLC could be a rework for Romania, USA, Japan and new focus tree for ireland?

[woeful oasis]

Kinda wish they added in military uniforms and equipment like shoes, water bottles, y straps, ammo pouches, and breadbags to the game

[barren tusk]

or albania

Romania is such a poor Focus tree ngl

it could have much potential to be honest

[mortal thunder]

i think they should go stellaris route not having to wait for full dlcs. just have a support team of 2 people updating existing nations to current standards on the side

hoi needs custodes

most things just needs a buff or a swap to 35days which should take a few weeks at most

i bet you could use chatgpt as a historian to compile info on events and behavior of a country

[thick tulip]

did anyone buy the new expansion yet

[harsh hull]

But like, how many more expansion passes can they realistically milk out of the timeframe of HOI4

2, maybe 3, and then you're scraping the barrel by going to Central America to form Napoleonic Guatemala

Which, don't get me wrong, I'd still play that, but surely the 1936 start will dry up sooner rather than later

[solid gyro]

just like the soviet democratic tree oh wait

[cyan juniper]

east asia rework, maybe seperate country pack for siam and ocenia, british puppets rework, arabia and egypt country packs

[cyan juniper]

this is like 4 years of content for paradox standards

[small sable]

my guess is that we will get Götterdämmerung, then Graveyard of Empires, then East Asia DLC, lastly a misc europe nation pack and then hoi5

Paradox must know that hoi4 is one, if not their most popular game ever

[cyan juniper]

why do people want hoi5? it will be like vic 3

[tacit sequoia]

Hoi5 ain’t happening anytime soon

[solid gyro]

Fr if they do the same thing like they did with vic 3 which you cant move your units at all then i will stick with hoi4, tbh its better to improve it with more mechanics etc

[dull minnow]

the Hoi series is a grand military strategy game not an economy simulator so there's no way they'd do that

but they could still make controversial changes that the community may not like

[solid gyro]

Yeah but ig we will see once the time for hoi 5 is here, until then we got more then enough content for hoi 4 on the way for the future

[harsh hull]

Country pack: "Peace for our Time" (Czechoslovakia, Slovakia proper, Romania, Yugoslavia)

Main DLC: "The Rising Sun" (Japan, Burma, Thailand, Mongolia/Mengukuo)
Country pack: "[I can't think of a name for this one actually]" (Australia, New Zealand, British Malaya, Dutch East Indies)

Main DLC: "The Arsenal of Democracy" (USA, Phillipines, and Liberia)
Country pack: "No More Emperors" (Just a massive China rework)```

Well, we have at least 3 years the way I see it with the Expansion Pass model

[solid gyro]

nah

paradox will milk this game dry

[solid gyro]

Tbh i would love to see a dutch east indies tree would be interesting to see

until every nation has a focus

[dull minnow]

why two reworks for canada?

[solid gyro]

ye rn they a rlly weak

[harsh hull]

Whoops, left one of those in there

[solid gyro]

japan before uk

[dark galleon]

sukarno in the 1930s would be interesting

[harsh hull]

Plus there's also the France rework as the other major nation, but that doesn't pair with a lot of things thematically

[dull minnow]

also, name for the oceanian country pack could be "Tora Tora Tora" or some other phrase said during the speech anouncing the attack on pearl harbor

[harsh hull]

(We're assuming that LaR also gets integrated at some point before that DLC)

[solid gyro]

At the moment all i can think of is the ratte which we saw in the reveal trailer and in the screenshot cant wait to massproduce them then get them encircled then watch em die cause yes

[visual wraith]

wait does this mean iraq will be british puppet

[solid gyro]

Most likely yes

[brazen ferry]

It literally says that it'll be a British Client State in the first sentence

[trim quartz]

Hashemite Iraq lets goooo baby

[obtuse ingot]

Hashemite Iraq with TransJordan minor tree as well. Pan Arabic state focus tree

“Legacy of the Hashemite Kings”

They should include Transjordan if they’re including Iraq

[trim quartz]

I am going to save Faisal II and make Iraq so unstable

[obtuse ingot]

Use 1933 start and save Faisal I

[wise oxide]

it litterally says british client state

[wise oxide]

jordan was not even a puppet it was a colony

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Iraq

[trim quartz]

Mandate of Palestine and Transjordan?

[obtuse ingot]

Yes

This map would also be cool

[wise oxide]

mandate of palestine is alot more important than jordan and both had almost no impact or importance in ww2

[trim quartz]

Egypt however

[obtuse ingot]

Lots of stuff happened the Mandate of Palestine during the war

[trim quartz]

The middle eastern theatre is a often forgotten part of ww2 I think

[wise oxide]

yes but they kinda got annexed in 1937 if i remember right and they didint join the war even tho they have been invaded by italy

[obtuse ingot]

It’s more fun in ww1… but yeah it’s mostly forgotten

[trim quartz]

I think adding Egypt would just add a bit more playability and more countries to mess around with

[wise oxide]

but be realistiv we aint getting it any time soon thailand malaysia and indonesia + philippines are more important

[cyan juniper]

no little actually happened

[obtuse ingot]

Morocco too

[wise oxide]

yes but mostly for alt history

[wise oxide]

brother you think they will add every colony?

[obtuse ingot]

1939 White Paper, Jewish insurrection against British, etc

[trim quartz]

I think if they update the colonies, the only other one they’ll add is Egypt

No Palestine or Morocco

[obtuse ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/casablanca-rick-waters-misinformed-humphrey-bogart-gif-14328191

[wise oxide]

omg it was the turningpoint of ww2😱

[trim quartz]

Paradox won’t of course add everything, but a few things would be cool

[wise oxide]

since the reichskommisariats are gonna be revorked its possible the colonies will be like weak integrated puppets that could rise up post war or alt hist but they will have a shared focus tree most likely

[obtuse ingot]

Casablanca, Jewish insurgency, etc. could be a small part of an overall espionage or occupation rework

[wise oxide]

very unlikely

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

[trim quartz]

Actually I think they’ll add Morocco

It was a puppet wasn’t it?

[wise oxide]

propably too controversional + insignificant to ww2 as a whole. we cant have 100 events a week

[trim quartz]

Yeah like in r56

[wise oxide]

dont diss my goat road to 56

[trim quartz]

I only play vanilla 😭

[wise oxide]

its perfect and vanilla should learn from them

[wise oxide]

go play mods

[wise oxide]

are you new?

[trim quartz]

No

[harsh hull]

Andalusian restoration path for Morocco

[trim quartz]

I’ve had hoi4 for around two years

I just don’t like mods for some reason

I always play Ironman vanilla

[wise oxide]

how can you not plaay mods

[harsh hull]

Very easily

[trim quartz]

Hang on

GWR is the only mod I play

Because I love World War One

[harsh hull]

You just disable them in the launcher, you see

[trim quartz]

But not that often either

[wise oxide]

but its too easy (GWR) i won ww1 as germany in one week

snake and naval invasion to paris + civ spam

[trim quartz]

I don’t do Germany in GWR

I like the really unstable countries

Ottoman Empire

Austria Hungary and Qing China

[obtuse ingot]

Arabia is fun in ww1

[thick edge]

@sterile dune

My good sir

[trim quartz]

Why are we pregnant

[thick edge]

Woops

[chilly drum]

Dont feed attention troll, ignore them

[barren tusk]

saudi arabia as well

looking forward for a possible saudi arabia focus tree

[obtuse ingot]

Mostly because I’m watching this megacampaign of Judea… and once they get to HoI4… there’s not really anything in the area.

(They are still in imperator)

[fallen kite]

Egyptian-Albanian monarchy letsgoo

[floral scaffold]

almost 0 chance

look at warsaw uprising

its not a very good mechanic implemented

nor was it exceedingly popular

a reason for adding it would be historical accuracy but there are other ways

[trim quartz]

How do you guys think they’ll manage the Soviet invasion of Poland? Or just keep it the same

[olive wadi]

who

[solid gyro]

Paradox

[solid gyro]

Prob some extra focuses before you get the danzig or war one

maybe they rename it to something else who knows

[bold crow]

Proximity fuses as allied special project???

Please PDZ

PdX

[wise oxide]

what is so special about them

[crimson violet]

why is almost every message reacted with pregnant emoji

[bold crow]

Radar detonated proximity fused AA shells made AA fire exponentially more deadly on land and sea. The Axis tried jamming but that didn't work. It was a huge advantage for the US and UK

[hollow idol]

Luxembourg tree

[wise oxide]

thats unnironically very well possible bc we got iceland tree as a surprise

a small one tho

[hollow idol]

it is.

[wise oxide]

but you cant make a huge tree for luxembourg

[solid gyro]

Someone is trying to be funny even though its not

[outer whale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GLslG4qUs3I?si=QL1mtIOQp8tOtmkM

Live chak footage!

[candid parrot]

how uch is the new dlc going to cost?

[barren tusk]

the pack 37€

individualy maybe 20 each

[solid gyro]

Yeah its prob gonna be the normal dlc price

Welp good thing i bought the pass yesterday so i dont have to buy it all seperately

[barren tusk]

i will wait for instant gaming cuz they always reduce prices

btw one question which are the differences between choosing Italo Balbo or Dino Grandi in italy?

[solid gyro]

Tbh good question

[barren tusk]

both are fascist

only buffs

i see

[solid gyro]

I think one of them is a Idealist and it other one the total opposite?

[barren tusk]

and to do an italy monarquist it's better to capitulate ethiopia and make the focus trees of monarchist or i just throw the ethiopia war?

i always throw because i need to change my ideology

"difficulties in etiopia

[solid gyro]

If you want to become monarchist you need to lose the war i think tbh idk i never used the Monarch path as italy

[barren tusk]

you are missing a reason to play italy to be honest

i like playing italy i don't know why ajjaja

maybe because the papa state moment

[solid gyro]

Yeah, well i am looking forward for the new german and austrian trees

But i prob try a italy Monarch path soon

[barren tusk]

same, in the meantime i will play another countries except germany and hugary

i'm looking forward for a rework to romania

it could be great because it has so much potential

[solid gyro]

Yeah

[barren tusk]

it's very poor

same as hungary

@solid gyro which countries do you play usually in HOI4?

mine Spain, Italy and sometimes Russia

[minor knoll]

Started 2 days ago, attached to it now😭

[solid gyro]

Germany, Soviets, Argentina and sometimes japan and china

[barren tusk]

curious about argentina

does it has anything special?

btw, i am looking chezkslovakia focus tree and doesn't have NOTHING

is just 2 shits

[hearty blade]

u can core freaking germany as argentina

[solid gyro]

Well i am playing them mostly cause their fascist is interesting and you can form the south american federation if you do the Focus

[barren tusk]

i was thinking to buy the south america DLC but the problem is i don't play South america. Just Europa or Asia sometimes

[hearty blade]

theyre honestly fun

[barren tusk]

also south america DLC's don't intervence in Europe

[hearty blade]

Democratic brazil is fun

oh yes they do

[barren tusk]

kinda, just sending voluunters?

[hearty blade]

nah u can actively join the war

on either side

ive joined axis as communist chile

[solid gyro]

Yk what isnt going in my head? On why congo got a tree and not luxembourg

[hearty blade]

ive joined allies as democratic brazil and took down germany

its very fun

[hearty blade]

they did belgium so might aswell do congo while theyre at it

[barren tusk]

another country i have to try is poland, quite nice focus tree

[hearty blade]

same thing with bba

they did italy so might aswell do ethiopia

[barren tusk]

and why is so bad reviewed? @hearty blade

[hearty blade]

poland one of my favorite nations to play

[barren tusk]

someone told me what i sent you

[hearty blade]

ALL dlcs are rated bad mostly its just

👎 its ok but buy when its on sale

and theyre right

[barren tusk]

but in early game difficult right?

[solid gyro]

True, ig its gonna be hidden like they did with iceland and paraguay

[hearty blade]

depends u can just give germany what they want and jump ussr and attack germany later

[barren tusk]

i will buy if there is a good offer

otherwise no

[hearty blade]

yeah buy when its on sale

they throw it on sale pretty often

[barren tusk]

and i am saving for the expansion in instant gaming

[hearty blade]

so no worries

they dont like keyshops around here

mods get angry id suggest deleting

but ye pretty good deals from ther

e

[barren tusk]

however, due to the newest DLC the sale would be less than France/Spain/Portugal DLC right?

due to the releases

maybe trial would be 15%

whereas others 40%

[hearty blade]

yeah newer dlcs always cost more

thats why stuff like man the guns iis 50% off and trial of allegiance is 20%

[barren tusk]

reming me trial is Brasil, Argentina, Paraguay and CHile?

[barren tusk]

for the best investment No step back and le resistance

[hearty blade]

and uruguay

[barren tusk]

le resistance because included Spain (yes i am from spain)

[hearty blade]

but uruguay has a very tiny tree is just a minor so to be expected

[barren tusk]

glad spain has good focus tree

[hearty blade]

spain has fun asf paths i just hate the civil war

so annoying

[barren tusk]

otherwise i would be upset

[hearty blade]

la resistance genuinely one of my favorite dlcs collab governments are so handy

[barren tusk]

"we love killing each other in our house"

[barren tusk]

collab governments is OP when you attack a country right?

easier to capitulate no?

[hearty blade]

just makes it easier to capitulate and when u do capitulate u get ALLOT of compliance

if u have max collab u get 100% and 100% is basically same as coring a country

[barren tusk]

usefull tip to kill germany

[hearty blade]

u get all of their industry

and most of their mp if not all

[hearty blade]

more useful for bigger countries like USSR and USA

cuz usa has vps everywhere

east coast west coast

[barren tusk]

yeah but i am new so i struggle with germany due to his power of templates

[hearty blade]

and for USSR u gotta push past the urals if u dont collab government them

[hearty blade]

its never templates that make the AI strong

AI is mentally ill they always use shitty templates

germany its usually air that kills u

[barren tusk]

don't they capitulate without moscow, stalingrand and peterburg?

[hearty blade]

gotta have strong airforce to contest germany or at worst case scenario u need hella AA to beat their cas

[hearty blade]

nopee

with collab government u gotta take push until stalingrad and a lil further i think

without collab government u gotta go to ufa and stuff like that

ufa

[barren tusk]

i thought kazan could be his new capital

nice to know

and last thing, another tip to succed in UK in navy or planes?

[hearty blade]

uk navy already strongest around so no need to really go for navy unless u wanna do something specific

ig id go air air more important

air can also assist in winning naval game

torpedo bombers are very nice to bomb german fleet and then to start freaking cutting their trade with subs

[barren tusk]

aight

does paradox make offers in halloween?

discounts

[hearty blade]

idk if theres an halloween sale

[barren tusk]

i only know summer sales

[hearty blade]

wintersale is in around a month tho

[barren tusk]

in paradox

[hearty blade]

they'll probs do something for wintersales

if i had to guess

[obtuse ingot]

I’ve always like Yekaterinaburg

[hearty blade]

never heard of yekaterinaburg its for sure going on my bucketlist for russia traveling though

[obtuse ingot]

It’s where the Romanovs were executed

[obtuse ingot]

Spooky ww2 story content?

https://aminoapps.com/c/urban-legends-cryptids/page/item/the-missing-children/r1GP_jlUqI0rWpl02g2d5Gd4al4jWMpvXB

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 TNO DLC

Also extra content for Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia confirmed

The extent of this content is Dubious, but hey extra stuff

[tacit sequoia]

i'll be suprised if there's strasserist path

not expecting it but alternate fascist militarist paths makes sense

[dapper fjord]

I'm interested in the German atom bomb model that they are using, but I don't know the type.. also I found a model kit for that bomb type that is almost the same as the trailer...

[hollow coral]

so ig buffs for yugoslavia, romania and czechoslovakia

im blind

[solid gyro]

Strasser is dead, so most likely it's related to the inner circle and the small tree of potential successors

[solid gyro]

Likely not buffs, maybe like decisions or a small tree

[hollow coral]

i would hope so

also want some state changes

[tacit sequoia]

not otto strasser, his brother gregor strasser is tho.

[solid gyro]

Likely a shared Danubian Federation tree they mentioned in the dev disry

[solid gyro]

Was Gregor of the same beleifs?

[tacit sequoia]

they were brothers, ofc same beliefs

[hollow coral]

i wanna see some states like burgenland for austria and other stuff

[solid gyro]

Tru, but you do often see brothers fight brothers

[tacit sequoia]

true, but gregor was the one that died in 1934 by execution, not otto.

[solid gyro]

Alright

Thats

[solid gyro]

Read a bit more that sounds like a fun but cursed af path

That might actually replace Berlin-Moscow path

[tacit sequoia]

something "that sounds like a fun but cursed af path" maybe something that improves the german path + make it better..

plus it would be cool to have a german socialist path instead of the painter path

[solid gyro]

I mean we're already getting a Communist path

Strasserism would just be the cursed "Nazbol" path

[obtuse stratus]

Graveyard of empires: new focus tree for Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, and British Raj

According to the wiki

Finally a 70 day focus that doesn't add 2 pieces of railroad

[stable tusk]

Tip: Get the Indian nuke and Australian nuke achievements before they change how nuclear research works
Because we have no idea if it's gonna be more difficult for minor powers

Probably will be

[solid gyro]

hungary needs some interesting decisions or a large industrial/military tree

cuz the historical path looks much better but still a little empty

well wait for the whole tree cuz i think paradox is cooking up a storm

[stable tusk]

Now Paradox is cooking with gasoline

[solid gyro]

i mean the historical path alone is still a major improvement tho considering that 1 path is as big as the entire dod political tree

[stable tusk]

I still wonder what this Austrian focus is gonna do

[solid gyro]

no

no they cant

[stable tusk]

?

[timber cypress]

my guess is that maybe a united balkans or some sorta union

[solid gyro]

they cant add the eu to hoi4

jk

idc

i doubt anyone will play austria tho

[timber cypress]

theres a decision to form the eu already btw

in democratic nations, and also konrad germany

[solid gyro]

it requires being democratic which is pratically impossible due to war goal restriction

[stable tusk]

And Mosley UK

[stable tusk]

Invade everywhere as Germany and go democratic

[timber cypress]

i gotta check that sometime, how can a fascist unite europe?

[solid gyro]

still requires justifying war goals which imo is way too long in hoi4

[timber cypress]

considering german focus tree, you can already fail the libujina acords or whatever, french entente and not face britain

[tacit sequoia]

imagine having a thing similar to the between two eagles mod where you reform a german empire as austria, and slowly take leadership back into Germany, get the sudeten land, and create some "Anti-Prussia" German Empire?

[stable tusk]

German Austria before it became just Austria

[hollow coral]

i kinda like the borders i cant lie

[stable tusk]

The exclaves look terrible and there's a really skinny border
But other than that it looks good

[hollow coral]

austria having tyrol looks rlly good

[hollow idol]

The tree is equivalent to iceland size

Its a surprise reveal

[wise oxide]

i litterally said and meant that

[hollow idol]

I can't tell you where i got the info

But you'll see during dev diaries

[wise oxide]

wait you say its confirmed?

[hollow idol]

I can't say that officially

But yes it is coming

[wise oxide]

makes sense

[dark galleon]

why did i think that was poland for a bit☠️

[hollow coral]

Crazy

[barren tusk]

no, halloween sales in paradox DLC. Usually in halloween some games gets discounts

[karmic granite]

Mongol empire dlc when

[compact shadow]

Why does the DLC almost cost the whole base game

[daring forge]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[hollow coral]

Base game gets hella cheap sometimes😭

[strong sequoia]

Yes and no, Iraq was independent but the British still controlled its economy through the unfair Anglo Iraqi Treaties and the British army leaves Iraq fully in 1937 only to return and invade in mid 1941

[candid swan]

Also wouldn’t be suprised if paradox does sneak Luxemburg tree in new dlc lol cause they sneaked Iceland in too

[candid swan]

Or bro is data miner

[obtuse ingot]

I think a minor Transjordan tree will be paired with Iraq

[strong sequoia]

Like RT56

[obtuse ingot]

The King of Iraq & King of Jordan were relations…. So if there’s a Hashemite Restoration Branch for Iraq, it would apply just as much to Jordan as well

The historical path for Jordan 1938-1945 would be a big boring, but alt history would be where the fun was at

[trim quartz]

It’s an expansion pack, plus people would never buy hoi4 unless it’s on sale, and it goes on sale for like 10 - 20 dollars (AUD where I am)

[thick edge]

Better be

They did Iceland

But not Luxembourg

Shanxi

But not Luxembourg

Aussa

But not Luxembourg

[compact shadow]

I guess so

[sharp mantle]

how do yall think paradox will handle the holy roman empire in this dlc

[compact shadow]

it can still be a bit ridiculous, the dlc is expensive. Hopefully it’s well worth it, and with my high hopes I’m sure it’ll be

[thick edge]

Ooh

[compact shadow]

Probably an expanded Victoria path, no?

[solid gyro]

Prob will give it to the austrians or something like that as a focus

[sharp mantle]

yeah

[compact shadow]

I can’t wait for Lumumba to be in game

[sharp mantle]

i hope they don't add too many schizo paths this dlc

[compact shadow]

this. I think trial of allegiance showed that schizo paths should be reserved for mods and mods only

[sharp mantle]

true

[compact shadow]

It sticks out really weirdly against all the other paths in the game

If I want schizo paths id play kx, not vanilla

Also, they made South America way too overpowered, even after the many debuffs

[sharp mantle]

stuff like french chile and cangaço brazil feel really weird in the context of hoi4

[compact shadow]

Hopefully paradox cooks for the Congo

[sharp mantle]

eh i doubt the congo will be actually fun to play

[compact shadow]

One can only hope

My messages are duplicating one second

[sharp mantle]

i feel like the most the congo will do is help either free france or vichy keep control of africa

but then if they do side with vichy they have a massive land border with british africa

[trim quartz]

Most likely give it to the Austrians. Didn’t make sense to me how the Hohenzollern’s could reform it but not the Habsburg’s

[thick edge]

Wdym schizo paths

[trim quartz]

Wild alternate history focus paths

[sharp mantle]

true

[thick edge]

So like Tannu Tuva doing a focus to core Shanxi? Impossible?

[sharp mantle]

stuff like french chile where it makes just absolutely no sense and are only there for the memes

or fourth reich argentina

[trim quartz]

Yeah like what that guy said

[thick edge]

Senor Hitler

Not like he committed a few war crimes

[trim quartz]

Considering they’re updating the Reichskomms I’m intrigued to see if they’ll do anything about Germanys puppet in Serbia - Milan Nedic’s government, or Croatia. Only in one game I’ve played where no one invaded Yugoslavia, and eventually it collapsed and gave way to the independent state of Croatia

[sharp mantle]

ok i looked it up and the snout is historically accurate

[hexed mango]

Who's deleting messages

Oh nvm

Just wanted to say that that thing was historically accurate

[trim quartz]

I knew it was historically accurate, I was suggesting that it should be a separate state so you could still get accurate or modern Serbia borders

[sharp mantle]

yeah

i hope the hre doesn't have the same territorial requirements as it does rn

in general i don't get the "you can only claim to be this empire when you reach its territorial peak" thing

i think the formation of byzantium was well handled in battle for the bosphorus so i hope they do the hre like that

[compact shadow]

Wait will we get reichkomsarriat focus trees?

[paper lagoon]

Is the ratte p1000 model for the new dlc finalized or will there be any changes? Cause I don't really like the model they have now.

Right picture just looks a lot more intimidating than the left

Really appreciate the work they put into this new dlc and I respect the developers decision but I feel like it would be 10x cooler to have the original concept model

[thick edge]

The model isn’t even accurate

[thick edge]

Neither is this one

[paper lagoon]

I know

[thick edge]

They used 3 different types so far

2 maus turrets on the back with four AA

Not a dual destroyer cannon on each corner

[paper lagoon]

The original concept was for the ships main gun (forgot which) to be installed into a chassis weighing 1000 tons

[thick edge]

Rip bridges

[paper lagoon]

So it is up to our imagination how it actually would have looked like

Who knows maybe the model in game is more accurate

But still they show one concept in the trailer then make another, which is no big deal

I just want the cooler looking one they showed

[paper lagoon]

Wouldn't you agree that the chassis in the trailer look better?

[thick edge]

Yes

[paper lagoon]

And that's my point, you can probs customize it

[thick edge]

P1500 monster

[bleak wing]

Yo chat what do we think about the new DLC

[bleak wing]

Sheesh

Even heavier then superheavies

[thick edge]

Literally a railway whim with tracks

Gun*

[bleak wing]

Railway guns are too expensive

[paper lagoon]

Would take as long as a ship to make in hoi4

[bleak wing]

Who tf plays navy

[thick edge]

UK players

[bleak wing]

Make naval bombers on large airframe

[bleak wing]

Never heard of em

[thick edge]

Did the UK in Mp once

Didn’t end well

[obtuse ingot]

What about tanks… with legs

[candid swan]

Netherlands rework i hope

[candid swan]

Soviets had something like that too

[obtuse ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/zoids-wild-liger-run-gif-23731204

Nothing moves like that?

[thick edge]

Bro has never seen an animal

[obtuse ingot]

I mean like a tank that moves like an animal.

[obtuse stratus]

All of us don't go outside sooooo

[thick edge]

I have never seen Hethr post anything hoi4 related that’s not demanding new things

So

Safe to assume

[obtuse ingot]

I go outside… but outside isn’t ww2

… having randomized weather in game would be interesting.,. Maybe weather manipulation wunderwaffe

Would tie into the new Stellaris DLC

Probably would only affect the US though…

[cyan juniper]

it is randomized with local limits already

do you want sandstorm in finland?

[obtuse ingot]

I mean hurricanes in the US, affecting manpower/factories…. like say a hurricane destroys all factories along the Atlantic

[bleak wing]

we need those flying star wars domes

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-attack-of-the-clones-geonosis-droid-battle-gif-15588679

when will this come

[sharp mantle]

really unlikely

[trim quartz]

Definitely not tbh. They’re only adding content and portraits to them

[sharp mantle]

yeah

btw what trees do you think we're getting after graveyard of empires

[compact shadow]

I mean probably E Asia and SE Asia but paradox can be unpredictable

[compact shadow]

Releasable nation focus trees when

[sharp mantle]

trees for southeast asia along with a japan and maybe china rework?

[compact shadow]

Yeah

[obtuse ingot]

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/IG-227_Hailfire-class_droid_tank

[obtuse ingot]

World War 1

2nd one is ww2 iirc

[trim quartz]

Tsar Tank

[fresh cedar]

I just want a German UFO in a hidden tree

[tacit sequoia]

for those who were askin on strasser, here's response.

also an idea for canada rework:

If the United Kingdom capitulates to germans, there should be a chance for Canada to surrender + take in the royal family to become the "Kingdom of Canada" as an "Exile" from the German-Ruled Britannia.

[molten vault]

Kinda like kaiserreich?

[solid gyro]

They need to add more Ideology

[tacit sequoia]

yeah

[solid gyro]

Only four is not enough, for example in Spain, non-aligned are the Francoists, and the Falangists (With Rivera) are Fascists, that is wrong, Jonsism (with Ramiro Ledesma) is the Spanish Fascism, or just do a favorite line between Rivera and Ledesma, and who have majority change the name of the Ideology.

Btw i really like the trailer of the new expansion, and I can't wait for the expansion for Afghanistan

I just yap

professional yapper ✅ xd

[trim quartz]

I don’t think they’ll add more ideologies, they just group Falangism in with fascism, and have different types of democracies too

However I do think non aligned is a little too vague sometimes

It could mean a kingdom, franoist state, native etc

[arctic quartz]

You think they’ll update the European Union formable to be able to integrate all of Europe like how Italy can integrate the Roman Empire through decisions?

[fallen kite]

Hopefully

Also guys what do you think they’ll change about Nuclear Weapons?

And that new special projects thing with the Eiffel Tower and stuff

[warm stag]

isnt this thing like katyusha but with hoverboat mobility

[gilded hazel]

hey, any idea what time is the dev diary being posted today

[obtuse wren]

Austria's focus tree, I think

[signal cargo]

Maybe a state modifer that nerfs the state that was nuked temporarily like local supply and building slots and repair speed

[fallen kite]

Nuke capital kill enemy country leader unless they have the Nuclear Bunker

[tacit sequoia]

probably 9am? or 11am? depends

(i'm on eastern usa timezone, and that was the usual)

[signal cargo]

That would be quite interesting, forcing leader changes on other countries

[fallen kite]

I just hope the nuclear techs in the base game get reworked from just 3 technologies

[cloud snow]

GUYS THERES A NEW DLC COMING OUT SOON

[signal cargo]

I agree, i wouldnt mind an expanded use and customization with them like after you get your first ones you can work on either quantity or quality

[signal cargo]

Mhmmmmm

I would love to somehow get icbm’s and nuke nations across the globe

May be stretching far

[slim veldt]

Does the raid thing mean like bombing somewhere without causing war?

[signal cargo]

They havent said what yet but my thought could be like a special operation where you send in troops or bombers to destroy highly important infrastructure or buildings during war

[slim veldt]

I think it's bombing key targets (like the oil refineries they mentioned) without causing all out conflict, at least not right away

[signal cargo]

Posssibly, im thinking more of operation tidalwave or operation gunnerside which were major events in the war which i dont think would go well in any peace filled time

[warped onyx]

What time do you think, world time, will the diary about Austria be published?

[signal cargo]

Ive heard a few people say between 9am to 1pm EST

[trim quartz]

I wake up and it’s magically there

Idk

[signal cargo]

That would be funn

[trim quartz]

Australia, so it's posted at like 2am so when I get up at 6 it's my nice little morning treat

[signal cargo]

Ohhh that does sound nicee

I live in minnesota, doing an overnight shift, its gonna release right before i go to sleep and honestly ill be constantly watching the clock excited

[wise oxide]

errm austria later today when?

[signal cargo]

No precise times yet

[hexed mango]

Today...

[solid gyro]

Does this mean we finally get Stalingrad like battles

[languid nexus]

does anyone have a list of all the countries that will get focus trees with this patch?

/all the countries that already have focus trees

[sharp mantle]

was that a thing in 1945 tho

[signal cargo]

not at alll

more coldwar technology

im sure it wouldnt have been impossible if there was a lot more effort put into rocketry though

[thick edge]

https://preview.redd.it/a-map-of-every-country-that-has-a-focus-tree-v0-ge7yibw60cx91.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8c84845ac20d7658f30ddcd09f22ae16a9a0c064

Wait

Wrong map

Everyone except some South America, Tibet, Nepal, Bhutan, Mongolia/Tannu Tuva, and Central America without DLC

Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Austria, and Belgium are added

Hungary/ Germany get reworks

[signal cargo]

yesssirrr

not to mention the raj is also reworked

and the congo is added

[languid nexus]

oh shii, iraq and iran werent mentioned in the dev diary

[languid nexus]

congo freestate?

[languid nexus]

fr?

[thick edge]

Yuh

[thick edge]

Yuh

[signal cargo]

if you watched the video about gotterdammerung at the very end they showed the expansion pass which included next dlc which is about iraq iran afghanistan and the raj

[thick edge]

Austria is released today

[signal cargo]

excitinggg

[languid nexus]

ahhh ok

[signal cargo]

mhmm, I presume with content about belgium comes content with the congoo

[signal cargo]

beautiful picture

[thick edge]

Real

[solid gyro]

fr

btw hi

[signal cargo]

hello!

[solid gyro]

:)

[trim quartz]

Ah I see, comes out every week Tuesday and Thursday

[thick edge]

I still need to buy the expansion pass

[solid gyro]

same

might buy it today

[outer whale]

When's dev diary

Today but which hour

[solid gyro]

no clue

[marsh sparrow]

When’s the dlc dev diary

[marsh sparrow]

Might be same time

[trim quartz]

What time is it over your area? It's releasing tomorrow for me, still monday here

[marsh sparrow]

As the trailer

[outer whale]

It's 7th October 2.54 PM

[marsh sparrow]

Est?

[solid gyro]

its 8:54 am on monday here 😭

[outer whale]

No

EU timezone

[marsh sparrow]

So 9 am here

[thick edge]

9 AM at school

Not 9

8

[trim quartz]

I see, so yeah the dev diaries release at around 1 or 2am in AEDT

[marsh sparrow]

8:54 is the same thing as 9

[thick edge]

7:56

Mis input

[trim quartz]

Since it's this time, I guess it's not far along for you guys

I'll be asleep so I won't hear the news yet

[marsh sparrow]

It’s already 7:56 here

That happened 2 minutes ago

[signal cargo]

7 am hereee

imagine monarchist path for austria lets you annex spain

ngll I love how much content africa has been getting the last few dlc's from arms against tyranny and by blood alone and now thisss

[trim quartz]

What did arms against tyranny add to Africa?

[signal cargo]

arms against tyranny moved a ton of resources around, but im mentioning british and french steel sources being moved to northern and western africa

[trim quartz]

I see

[signal cargo]

not a big difference to africa but now if african nations go independent they have at least resources which before they barely had any

its so hard to build a military when all of your civs are spent on resources

[cyan juniper]

at what time will they release

does anyone know from old diaries

[signal cargo]

people are expecting sometime in the next 5 or 6 hours

[cyan juniper]

now it is 2.22 pm in sweden

isnt that late

[signal cargo]

welll its still morning in america, im sure they wanna release it when most of their player base is awake, between america and europe

[visual wraith]

it was around 11AM iirc

est

[trim quartz]

Usually release at around 1 - 2 am in Australia where I live, so probably at around 9:30 America, and 5:30 Sweden

[signal cargo]

I like those times

I hope its that

[chilly drum]

46 mins.

[brazen ferry]

Do we know the time it releases?

[visual wraith]

i could swear it was 11 est

[brazen ferry]

That would be in about 2 hours

I do know that Tinto Talks, CK3 and EU4 dev diaries used to drop around 3 PM Catalonia time

Which would be 7 AM in the east coast

[visual wraith]

actually nvm

[pseudo wing]

I think you're all slightly off on your timing

[visual wraith]

if you check the news discord text channel

then all previous dev diaries were at 9

wait is it actually dropping in 15 min

[brazen ferry]

We yearn for the DDs

[pseudo wing]

it is arriving soon

[thick edge]

The DD has been granted by our lord and savior

[trim quartz]

Oh golly gee

[visual wraith]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/developer-diary-austria.1706600/

its out

[cosmic falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[trim quartz]

There we go

At 12:01

Hip hip hooray for the Habsburg’s

[pseudo wing]

I had to wait for the video to go live and youtube hates me

:p

[thick edge]

Live video

Too much work

[subtle veldt]

Rhineland is historically accurate now. Yipee!

[trim quartz]

Austria is in shambles with those national spirits oh my goodness

[fading walrus]

Historically Austria wasn’t in a good position

So it makes sense

The 1934 attempted coup the Great Depression

[trim quartz]

The new portraits are beautiful

My favourite thing about these updates is how good the new art is

[thick edge]

Oh mein gyatt

[floral scaffold]

Not much difference for MP games

Except much less equipment and industry

[undone kelp]

Holding out hope for an eventual Japan rework at some point. Hopefully one with a corporatist path.

Because the idea of Mitsubishi taking control of Japan is funny to me.

[visual wraith]

so forming austria hungary is still heavily luck dependent?\

[visual wraith]

ye i assume asia rework is coming next year

[undone kelp]

It better. China, the warlords, and Japan all seem pretty undercooked at the moment.

The Warlords for example should have some more fleshed out trees particular to a China unified under them specifically, for example. Rather than a generic shared tree.

[visual wraith]

they def need a total overhaul of the chinese civil war

its prob asia next since the only other thing to update would be an allied major

but mtg isn't integrated into the main game yet

[cosmic falcon]

Aside from Japan and China. I'd like to see countries like Siam, Malaya, the Philippines and Indonesia get their own focuses.

[undone kelp]

Those are the last I can see getting some I think.

[obtuse ingot]

Mandatory Palestine, Syria/Lebanon, North Africa might

[undone kelp]

Some of the other colonial possessions like French Indochina I can see also getting their own

[trim quartz]

I see a familiar looking face on the new wallpaper

Also updated Hitler portrait

[obtuse ingot]

🤔 France colonial possessions overall?

That would cover a lot

[cosmic falcon]

I wonder what Facility construction means.

[obtuse ingot]

… I like the sound of that. French colonial possessions as next big DLC. Hits lots of places

[undone kelp]

France should retain its North Africa holdings, but the rest I do think can be reasonably splintered off into its own thing with focus trees in Asia and South America and Africa and the Mideast.

French Indochina might come with a DLC that focuses on Siam, Indonesia, Malaya, and the Philippines though.

[visual wraith]

i heavily doubt anything france related will be updated anytime soon

[steep shuttle]

Why dover and Calais connected in the video?

[visual wraith]

would mean la resistance is integrated into main game

[undone kelp]

Honestly some of the early DLCs really should be

[visual wraith]

tf

[obtuse ingot]

That gets you a little bit in the Middle East, North Africa, Madagascar, SEA

[steep shuttle]

They killed the game with this

I hope this is new naval blockage system or something

Otherwise i will really reconsider to buy this dlc

[sweet pasture]

HUH?????

[visual wraith]

if this is real then it prob wont be connected to dlc

[thick edge]

Erm

[undone kelp]

Syria and Indochina definitely need their own.

French Guiana, Algeria, and Tunisia can remain with France proper.

Not sure what you can do with Madagascar.

The French West African colonies could probably be made their own thing same as Congo was, though that’s a lot of minors to give focus trees to.

Nigeria would be first in line for a focus tree as well.

[sweet quarry]

its just a weird looking convoy connection line, this is a fresh game on the dev build

[thick edge]

Call me crazy

But the gap looks bigger

[trim quartz]

What

[sweet quarry]

just zoomed in more

[barren tusk]

guys opinions about austria focus tree?

[marsh sparrow]

Is the dlc dev diary out

?

[barren tusk]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMqmW8LQDk

[visual wraith]

i feel like this dev diary was kinda different from previous

really vague and didn't show what that many focuses did

[barren tusk]

but atleast what he can do in different scenarios

[crude stump]

Guys is there info about price of new DLC?

[errant forge]

Hey, so, we had a more stringent character limit now, I'm trying to hang around in the comments on the forum and reply to questions if there is anything specific you wonder about!

[trim quartz]

Beautiful

My new main will be Austria

[barren tusk]

are you the video man in the austria?

imagine a focus tree where you could do anschluss to germany and if he rejects start a war

[trim quartz]

Dunno, but this guy wrote the dev diary

[bleak breach]

will the revised hungarian focus tree be a similar scale?

[daring forge]

They are the one who wrote the diary (and made the content), Arheo does the video voiceover

[errant forge]

The man in the video is Peter, our Game Director, I am but a humble Content Designer, but I am the humble content designer who made the Austrian content

[errant forge]

You certainly can start a war against Germany, it might end you, but you can!

[visual wraith]

so hre

[marsh sparrow]

Sad that there is no Luxembourg

[errant forge]

not there, no, but HRE and Austria might still be possible

[thick edge]

HRE would be cool

U know what would be cooler

A cored mongol empire

Manpower my beloved

[atomic cave]

THERE WONT BE AN EUPEN STATE?!

How are they gonna update Germany without finally giving it accurate borders..

[frigid sky]

when does the new dlc come out?

[marsh sparrow]

Pretty sure the borders are accurate

[marsh sparrow]

Nov 14

[frigid sky]

i see

[nimble torrent]

tbh that's probably getting added to vanilla too
no way in hell the devs want to deal with 2 different maps imho

[stoic mist]

With the new Austria stuff, I can't help but wonder how Germany will get impacted. Specifically, with how much Germany depends on expansion, it seems like it could really get kneecapped by Austria. Though, I'm guessing this won't matter much on historical.

[candid swan]

Austria better have a Hitler path if the German civil war does happen (like America and Argentina)

[candid swan]

Since he’s Austrian……

[harsh hull]

Germany demands Rhineland - Britain and France say no
Germany demands Anschluss - Austria says no
Germany demands Sudetenland - Czechoslovakia says no
Germany demands Danzig - Poland says no

[thick edge]

Imagine Hitler leading Austria

[harsh hull]

German economy collapses in 1941

Fin

[candid swan]

That’s what I’m saying if German civil war does happen then there should be option to rule Austria as him

[nimble torrent]

i'd wager the germans getting new tools and goodies will balance that out
and also nothing states that the germans and austrians can't get in conflict because of their expansionist attitudes
and i doubt that would ever go well for the austrians
meaning more stuff for ze germans!

[errant forge]

on historical, if Austria is an AI, Anschluss will barely be impacted. An Austrian player might be able to delay it quite a while, against an AI, against a player, it's just going to be down to the skill of the players really. My personal best as a historical Austria without exploits is delaying Anschluss by 6 months. As a Communist, I can stretch it a bit further, but then I have had a civil war instead

[barren tusk]

guys is there a mod that has a focus tree to forgive mexican state?

[harsh hull]

There can be no forgiveness

Also, no other Austrian state additions besides Burgenland?

[candid swan]

What if Hungary and Austria both do the monarchy path?

[errant forge]

Yes, Steirmark-Kärnten has been broken off from Niederösterreich (If I remember correctly)

[errant forge]

Race for Otto 😄 both of them have backups though

[marsh sparrow]

Still sad about Luxembourg

I need answers paradox

I need answers

[harsh hull]

Well, that's something at least

[thick edge]

Real

[nimble torrent]

if they both go monarchist the hungarians might "snipe" otto
but the austrians get another guy in charge so no biggie
i do wonder about unification tho...

[marsh sparrow]

British rework is probably next

[stoic mist]

Good to know, thanks.

I noticed that there was a note in the dev diary about Austria's population and government holding different perspectives on the unification. To whatever degree you can comment on it, does this produce a mechanic like Vichy France where things just "happen" to Austria if it doesn't increase Germany's annexation requirement (e.g; the army simply refuses to fight, as more or less happened historically)?

[nimble torrent]

I do wonder
Did pdx announce that iceland was getting a focus tree too or was that a surprise?
If they didn't announce it then there's still hope Luxebros!

[thick edge]

Yay

If Luxembourg doesn’t come

Imma do something

(I can’t do anything)

[candid swan]

No Netherlands rework sad

[candid swan]

👍

[nimble torrent]

i hope
but that is copium 10000
that by "declassing" dlcs into the vanilla game paradox will slowly bring improvements to them with the custodian team
All hail the custodian team, never forgotten

[harsh hull]

I think that NSB was the turning point on average DLC quality

And that eventually, every DLC before it will be integrated into the base game so that those nations can be reworked again

Obviously not immediately, but maybe in a year or two LaR will get the same treatment

[errant forge]

It does not do much, you get an event as per usual, we didn't want to upset the German experience too much. however so if you accept, that is just gg, that's it, game over, no more Austria or Austrian resistance

[fading walrus]

Side question: what unit from Rome total war is my pfp

This is a trick question

[harsh hull]

It's that one unit from Rome Total War

This is a trick answer

[fading walrus]

Silver Shield legionaries

For the Seleucid empire

Hellenic copies of the Roman leigonarries

[nimble torrent]

genuinely depends on how much longer paradox wants hoi4 to go forward
it is growing steadily in player numbers with each dlc, so it can be assumed that they look favorably on it because of that
also good god i do not want to imagine a hoi5 starting back like hoi4 with no dlcs, my heart cannot take it
also also the probability of a hoi5 happening really depends on what new engine the devs get their hands on, i don't think there will be much talks of a successor so long as Clausewitz does not get massive changes or a new awesome alternative springs up

[obtuse ingot]

The Hapsburgs can marry each other

[nimble torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-love-black-guy-gif-13356234737839029056

true

[obtuse ingot]

As long as they do it too often it won’t wind up the same…

[marsh sparrow]

210 day focus is crazy

[thick edge]

Keeping the bloodline pure

[marsh sparrow]

Most normal Austrian family:

[solid gyro]

The devs are going all out

Not only are there 2 diaries per week

There's a video attached to this one

They are really trying to make up for ToA 😭

(ToA was a fun DLC)

[marsh sparrow]

ToA was made by a new team

Not the main team

Or was a side dlc

Because of the long time it would take to make this DLC

[brazen ferry]

@errant forge it would've been cool to get a DNSAP path for Austria. Was it ever considered and scrapped due to time, or just never planned?

[cyan juniper]

country packs are outsourced

[marsh sparrow]

ToA wasn’t

[pseudo wing]

they are not

they are made by the secondary team

[marsh sparrow]

It was made by some people hired by paradox I believe

Well everything is made by people hired by paradox

But I mean new people

[brazen ferry]

Mfw that's how all games are made

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[brazen ferry]

That's the custodian team right?

[pseudo wing]

I do not know the name of the team (if there is a name for them) but it is still made inhouse

[solid gyro]

Well yeah, but it's performance was like so bad I wouldn't doubt that this team is trying to make up for it

Either way

I love this dlc<3

[brazen ferry]

There were rumors that modders were hired to work on ToA, hence the Mapuche path, which feels like a mod path, but I guess the rumors weren't true

[icy spire]

ToA is the only DLC I haven’t bought

[brazen ferry]

The paths are fun

[errant forge]

It was considered very briefly at the start, but cut in favor of branches we found more interesting

[icy spire]

The only nation I was interested in was Brazil and they got the historical tree for free

[brazen ferry]

I don't understand the hate

[icy spire]

I mean I don’t hate it but it’s not worth the price

[brazen ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-emoji-crying-gif-22298553

Sad

[icy spire]

South America dozen’t interact much with the outside world so I don’t need to play base hoi4

Kr South America is just waaaay more fun

[brazen ferry]

It would've been cool to play as a resurgent national-socialist movement after the Nazis fall in Germany

Or even have Hitler escape to his homeland rather than all the way across the Atlantic

Or Greece

[icy spire]

Ehhhh

So you just sit around all game

[thick edge]

Austrian Hitler

[icy spire]

Wait until everyone is half way done with their focused just to start yours

[brazen ferry]

Regular Hitler*

[icy spire]

That works with the US because you have too much industry to play around with

[brazen ferry]

Or the Nazi guy they teased in the DD

[icy spire]

Everyone else that waiting would suck

[brazen ferry]

You wouldn't be waiting all game

As soon as the Nazis fall, you could take in Nazi sympathizers, generals, politicians...

[outer whale]

https://youtu.be/pUMqmW8LQDk?si=s9-axlcxu8DZMerP

[outer whale]

Can we core bavaria as austria

[thick edge]

German Hitler
Austrian Hitler

[brazen ferry]

And start a series of resistance movements in Germany to reinstate the Reich

And in the end, you just Andchluss Germany

Hire me Paradox

[solid gyro]

If I may ask, was Franco and Salazar's regime also made non-aligned for the same Readon as Austria?

[outer whale]

I wish they also refreshed the portrait of otto von habsburg

But yeah good content for austria

Things I wonder are
If we can core bavaria

I think we can core switzerland by alpine federation thing

But idk if its same for bavaria

[brazen ferry]

My understanding is that Salazar wasn't a fascist in the sense of National-Socialism, National-Syndicalism...

[solid gyro]

I mean, I've heard the same about Franco

[brazen ferry]

Compared to other fascist figures, the cult to Salazar wasn't that big

[solid gyro]

Well depends how you want to define it tnh, but I did hear someone mentioned Salazar being Fascist

[brazen ferry]

The cult to Franco was massive, and he had Falangists in his government

[brazen ferry]

He was a totalitarian, autocratic tyrant, but I wouldn't categorize him as a fascist

[solid gyro]

Well it's more so that he wasn't a Falangist himself and actually kinda curtailed them, so the explanation for him was like Conservative Ultra-nationalism

But uh

Tik history, so take with a grain of dalt

[brazen ferry]

Hed checked all the marks in the fascist playbook except the cult of personality, so that's understandable

[brazen ferry]

Tik Tok history?

Bruh

[solid gyro]

No

Tik History

YouTube channel with decent following

[brazen ferry]

I don't know what that is

Ah

Thank God you don't get your history knowledge from TikTok

[solid gyro]

Though I've heard he doesn't use his sources 100% well so take his stiff with grain of salt

[solid gyro]

Fr lol

[errant forge]

through some elaborate means, yes, you can!

[thick edge]

Oooh

Coring?

[low pendant]

what do you do at PDX? I know you wrote the dev diary, but I dont usually read them so idk who anyone is

[harsh hull]

Will an independent Tyrol ever be a possibility

[errant forge]

I am a content designer, I make focus trees and events basically

[brazen ferry]

This is how we're taught about Franco in Catalonia:

-He was a master manipulator. He got three factions that hated each other (Falangists, Carlists and Alfonsines) to work together
-Blud was incredibely lucky. Right after the coup, its leader, Sanjurjo, dies in an airplane accident as he was returning from his exile in Portugal. Days later, the last Carlist pretender, Alfonso Carlos, is run over by a truck in Vienna. He had no male heirs, and his death caused a split in the Carlist movement between Carlooctavistas and Javieristas. His fellow generals all died. Mola died in a car accident, Cabanellas died of old age, Millán-Astray supported him...
-He integrated fascists and monarchists in his government, and after World War II ended, he incorporated technocrats as well. He ruled with an iron fist and severely punished the republicans, especially those who were from national minorities.

[low pendant]

ahh, cool. How long have you been at the company? since theres a pretty stark difference between some of the older focus trees and then the newer ones like hte soviet tree, i figure there was at least some change in the team

[brazen ferry]

What does a content designer do? I'm studying to become one but I'm a bit confused on what role they play within the company

[errant forge]

So, we are responsible for creating and implementing content. Our tasks range from researching history, to scripting and implementing content for the game, to writing dev diaries. Think a game designer, that also doe narrative writing, and that's pretty much what we are.

[outer whale]

YAAY

[brazen ferry]

Nice, thanks for the insight!

[harsh hull]

As many of you know, Austria was never really a kingdom, so calling it that might not make too much sense. After some discussion we've decided to rename it to Archduchy of Austria, and the ruler to Archduke rather than King.

We know that this isn't 100% accurate either (the Holy Roman Empire has long since fallen and an Archduchy is very much an HRE thing. However, we feel that Archduchy is more rooted in history and a much more flavorful name. We hope you like this change as much as we do!```

Dang dude

[outer whale]

What about the whole germany

[harsh hull]

Is it still possible to leave the title as a player choice?

I want to be the King of Austria

[outer whale]

I think there's a HRE path

If there is means we can core whole germany

[undone kelp]

Are there any rules of thumb when it comes to designing a focus tree?

I ask as there seems to be a marked design philosophy shift between the early DLCs and those from about Man the Guns and on.

[solid gyro]

Probably inexperience marked with an Understanding that people tend to love the alternate history paths than historical

[brazen ferry]

Yeah alt-hist has played a bigger role for the last few years and I'm all for it

[outer whale]

I mean austria ceases to exist at 1938

That's why it will have %80 alt history tree

[errant forge]

we had feedback from the community, and after some discussion, we thought this was the better choice 🙂

[brazen ferry]

'King of Austria' is not a title that has ever existed. Otto was attempting to reclaim the title of Emperor, but I get that they went for Archduke to give the player a sense of progression

[outer whale]

Is
"Beyond our old lands"
Refer to HRE

[thick edge]

HRE would be cool

[outer whale]

Ye imagine coring 150+ million population

[harsh hull]

Very aware of that, and I get that you already changed it

But what I asked is if it's not too late to leave it as a player choice

I don't play HOI4 for its infinitely intricate historical accuracy, I'm just here for a good time

[solid gyro]

Could you suggest having the Alternate Austrian Monarch available through decision?

I love his portrait but locking him behind Hungary doesn't seem right

[outer whale]

Yeah there was other habsburg members as well

And maybe could you guys refresh otto von habsburg portrait

[solid gyro]

For other Countries, they said in the Dev Diary that the other Monarch is only available if Hungary gets Otto first

[outer whale]

Look how Chad he is at here

Or this

[brazen ferry]

The team tends to add female figures as easter eggs. It'd be cool to have the option to install Elisabeth Marie as Archduchess of Austria for a more left-leaning monarchist path

[outer whale]

I think this looks better

[solid gyro]

May I ask you if there is a chance of adding a focus/decision to Habsburg Austria to support carlist Spain? Or even a decision to place a habsburg into the throne of Spain

[outer whale]

Also can we we interact with hohebzollern family like netherlands monarchist tree does

[brazen ferry]

omg it's Bertocho

[solid gyro]

If anything, Empress Zita would be a funny option

[outer whale]

Basically making civil war at germany