latest-updates

[stable tusk]

Which will hopefully get updated too

[solid gyro]

There probably will be a Gulyas achievement though

[small sable]

real

@stable tusk

[fervent prairie]

Damn, that true

[fluid shadow]

The manpower bonuses where nice?

[stable tusk]

How do people already have access to this? What?

It's a mod isn't it

[solid gyro]

Idk if there is a Gulyas focus there probably would be an achievement because it’s funny

[small sable]

kid named steam store page

[solid gyro]

It’s on the steam store page

[fervent prairie]

Yeah

[fervent prairie]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3152780/Expansion__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Gtterdmmerung/

Steam

Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: Götterdämmerung

Build the industrial and research foundation to survive the world’s greatest conflict In Hearts of Iron IV: Götterdämmerung. In this expansion, players can write new histories of Germany, Austria, Hungary and Belgium. Pursue exciting new research and military options, opening new paths for devastating new weapons and dramatic raids on strategic ...

Price

$36.99

Release Date

Nov 14, 2024

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[stable tusk]

So they kinda already leaked it themselves

[small sable]

Have an division with -60% supply reduction as communist hungary

[cobalt jay]

I'm most interested in the Belgium tree tbh

[solid gyro]

It’s only some of it but yeah I guess

[small sable]

Burgundy in Hoi4

[cobalt jay]

Not even that

[small sable]

what

[stable tusk]

Austria is huge

[small sable]

like the democratic paths

[fervent prairie]

I really like that you can make more Reichkommisariats with this DLC

[small sable]

Austria is a bit bigger than hungary both are getting good focuses

[fluid shadow]

I hate that I can only think about TNO when hearing burgundy

[cobalt jay]

Belgium is the make or break for this DLC, since Belgium decides the fate of Germany in Hoi IV

[small sable]

RK Balkanhalbinsel

[thick edge]

How do u get the trees

[stable tusk]

Steam page

[fervent prairie]

Can't core both Hungary and Bohemia RIP

[small sable]

kid named steam store page

[thick edge]

Ok

[stable tusk]

Paradox leaked it themselves

[solid gyro]

There should be a Hungary focus that puppets Transylvania

[fervent prairie]

Sent a link here a moment ago

[small sable]

It will be part of either the democratic or council communist path most likely

[solid gyro]

Or Austria puppets Transylvania and Transylvania has the Debrecen state

[small sable]

from what we heard we can expect Hungary to have a fair bit of industry

[small sable]

Alföld?

nah

[solid gyro]

Yes

[cobalt jay]

Realistically one is never breaking the Maginot in any reasonable amount of time, so if Belgium gets overtuned South America style, it can single handedly decide WW2

[small sable]

they wouldnt even have partium

[solid gyro]

I mean historically it was part of Transylvania under ottomans

[small sable]

yeah this makes or breaks the dlc

[small sable]

part of a salient

did not control the rest of the plains

[solid gyro]

Magyars ≠ huns

[cobalt jay]

Because Belgium is where a lot of new Germany players throw the run

[solid gyro]

Hunnic empire focus as Hungary

[indigo kite]

that's why it's heirs of the huns and not the huns

[small sable]

Can't wait to core half of Europe

and then core hungary as austria

then core austria as germany

then core germany as france who formed the eu

then get cored by brazil who also cored all of south america

[fluid shadow]

Bittersteel said it correctly, in that Belgium needs to be able to be steamrolled by germany when controlled by an ai, but managable when player controlled (or smt like that)

[stable tusk]

EU only cores the starting core states of Germany, France, Italy, and the Benelux

[small sable]

ending up with brazil on cores on South America and all of Europe

[indigo kite]

ratte only division

[small sable]

sad

[stable tusk]

RATTE

[small sable]

tho I have seen some ridicilous combos

[fervent prairie]

Yeah

[stable tusk]

I LOVE BIG TANK THAT WILL NEVER WORK IRL

AS BIG AS A SHIP

[cobalt jay]

I agree with him on that, I don't usually agree with him, but he is right

[small sable]

I don't care if it costs 10000 IC, I will be making it anyways

[stable tusk]

Fun Fact: The original plan for the Ratte was to make it in a dockyard

[small sable]

also show the Unrailwayed railway artillery and motorcycles

[indigo kite]

imagine the soviets got the KV-6 or Object 279 as a special project

[small sable]

also we are getting a bunch of models like Eiffel Tower and stuff

[small sable]

Anti nuclear tank division

Imagine nuking a tank division and it keeps in driving towards berlin

[fluid shadow]

Uk cores france, who cores EU+ Spain, who cores portugal, who cores brazil, who cores large parts of the americas +imperial federation?

[small sable]

yeah

and then also include russia and arabs somehow

[fading walrus]

I know why the Congo was Included

[fluid shadow]

• iran for good measure

[fading walrus]

because it has alot of Uranium

[fluid shadow]

Also they needed more content to justify the price

[fading walrus]

it was also to give Belgium a place to go when they get exiled

[molten vault]

Oo

[solid gyro]

imagine your losing a game as the germans in a mp round the allies already certain of victory then out of nowhere you pull up with five ratte panzer divisions on the front and trow them back a few tiles

[cyan juniper]

are you hungarian?

[molten vault]

So its not a dlc

But like

A string of mini dlcs

[fading walrus]

not its a few DLC's

they just gave us a roadmap

[molten vault]

Oh ok

[fervent prairie]

What I hope to see fixed soon, are the border conflicts

[solid gyro]

Its a big dlc also the one coming in november then next year a not to big one which is the iran,iraq dlc (wont list the names everytime) with a music dlc and the new models as a bonus so the price is pretty fitting tbh

[fallen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/blacrswan-gif-25600014

[fervent prairie]

You can't pick which general you use, what tile you attack from and which you attack into, nor which divisions you use for it

[fluid shadow]

like i said earlier, I hope that you will get a small goverment in exile branch, for manpower and stuff, where you can flee to a belgium, or if you are playin as congo you also get a small branch but don't get annexed.

at least I think I said that here

[fallen kite]

is that the actual focus tree

like fr fr?

[nimble torrent]

"And more: New structures and buildings are visible on the map, AI players are better at planning attacks, new changes to the use and effectiveness of atomic warfare, and armies will experience more deadly urban warfare."
urban combat rework or something?

[fervent prairie]

Yes, it's from the DLC store page

[nimble torrent]

(this is from the store page)

[fallen kite]

hot damn

[nimble torrent]

imagine just for a second if we could get multi tile cities

[solid gyro]

hoi4 gets more and more content in a faster rate tbh ig they really wanna complete some parts of the world now

[molten vault]

ahh i see

[fallen kite]

doesn't austria get annexed in 1936?

actually correction it's 1938

[indigo kite]

38

yeah

[fallen kite]

yeah they got time

[solid gyro]

Alt hist path here i come cant wait to see a even more cursed map of the world now in game

[fallen kite]

Man imagine a world where everything goes horrible for the axis

[fervent prairie]

Not ours, that's for damn sure.

[fallen kite]

Germany gets themselves beaten silly by Austria

[solid gyro]

Every austrians dream if that really happend

[fallen kite]

Eithiopia and Albania ball out and obliterate Italy

and japan just gets nuh uhed by Chang Kai Shek

imagine a mp match like that

[solid gyro]

The world be like 👀 "wow they got beat by european minors and the japanese failed against the chinese"

[fervent prairie]

I think that would be that their Empire never crumbled

[solid gyro]

Yeah but i gotta be real even though i am an austrian myself our empire would of crumbled anyway even without the great war it was so un-stable the entire time

the war only speeded up the process

Like poles wanted to be free same goes for the hungarians,romanian lands, and of course the czechs

[fluid shadow]

Yeah, but in my opinion the biggest reason your empire collapsed where the hungarian nobles, who could, would and did block any attemps at reform

[vast wing]

(wrong channel sorry)

[solid gyro]

Yeah they certainly played a big role in our collapse if they would of be calm and all that maybe the empire would of survived a little longer

you could say our empire was the italy from ww1 lol well ig we did to a little better

[fluid shadow]

Yeah, but most of them hated the empire, so unless the cisleithanian part would have invaded them I don't think that they would have ever chilled out, so to speak

Since any reform would have involved them giving right to their minorities

Which they would have never allowed

[misty totem]

wait is the new dlc's in the subscription?

i brokey

[solid gyro]

Yeah and yk what was even more funny? the thing is that they wanted the same rights as the austrians in the empire and we gave them that, thats why austria hungary got even named that way as a form of status to the world that they are now a duo-monarchist nation (well most power where in the austrian royal family) but then years later they got angry at the empire which gave them the rights and all that so in my view they didnt have any right to complain about those reforms

[fluid shadow]

yeah

[solid gyro]

Yeah they are in it

[stable tusk]

YEs

Oops

Yes

[fervent prairie]

They remained loyal until the US promised them Independence. It would have remained stable as Karl I was a reformer If I remember correctly, So was Ferdinand.

[misty totem]

Up all night tonight with this new dlc

[solid gyro]

Same

[misty totem]

Getting a bit fiesty 😈

[solid gyro]

Yeah those two had some great reforms planed tbh

[fervent prairie]

No WW1 would mean Franz Ferdinand didn't die. This means when Joseph was dead reform would happen

[fluid shadow]

Like I said, any reform would have certanly forced them to give rights and possibly even land to the slovaks, romanians, etc... so they would never have accepted them. And them having their kingdom become a seperate entity from austria didn't help with their desire for independence.

[solid gyro]

True true but honestly its really interesting to talk about that thema with other people to get their view etc

[stable tusk]

Ferdinand wanted to make a third kingdom for the South Slavs, the South Slavs kinda liked that idea but the Hungarians hated it

[fervent prairie]

The US was the last drop needed for them to break away. Hell WW1 would have ended a lot sooner had the US not helped the Entente

[tawdry monolith]

Panzerkampwagen

[stable tusk]

The Black Hand basically said that if Ferdinand became Emperor, they should give up on the idea of a Greater Serbia

[small sable]

real

[solid gyro]

WW1 at the start was a combo of napoleonic stile of battle "run at the enemy dont try to die" only later they used modern tactics

[small sable]

hungary did NOT want to give up any land

[fluid shadow]

Totally agree, I don't think that there is a single person in my school/private live who I could talk to abuot this

[fervent prairie]

True, but the Hungarians would have to fight against the Slavs, Czechs, Romanians and Austrians

[small sable]

true but without this the Empire would have collapsed 50 years earlier

[fluid shadow]

Nor rights to any minority

[fluid shadow]

true

[small sable]

last time they won against austria and had to get russian help

[stable tusk]

If Ferdinand became Emperor, we could've seen a Triple Monarchy but the Hungarians wouldn't want to stay for long

[brazen ferry]

What's the historical context behind the Congo being a puppet rather being directly controlled by Belgium in the next patch? My understanding is that the Congo Free State was annexed in 1908.

[kindred beacon]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_von_Hammerstein-Equord
Will he make an appearance in the updated monarchist tree?

[solid gyro]

And imagine that this is in the austrian monarch path

[solid gyro]

Half

[fluid shadow]

I still think that they needed some extra content for the dlc to make it's price justifiable

[kindred beacon]

Von Mackensen does have the greatest mustache in the game but he was also nearly 90 years old in 1936, and despite being a monarchist he was ambivalent towards Nazism at worst

[fervent prairie]

The Central powers were winning and the fact that the entente was severely indebt to the US, shows how badly they would be losing without them. Tho I am aware of their combat tactics

[kindred beacon]

There's no evidence he ever was involved in anti Nazi plots despite his personal monarchist views

[stable tusk]

It might've been annexed, but the local government remained

[kindred beacon]

Well, it's a little more complicated than that. It's wrong to say that European warfare hadn't evolved since Napoleon but there had never been a war at that scale

[stable tusk]

I think he was a supporter of the Oster plot

[kindred beacon]

Both sides also hoped for a rapid victory

[fervent prairie]

Quite some time prior yes. But this time teh Austrians would have German help aswell

[kindred beacon]

And therefore Germany pushed very aggressively into Belgium and France and Russia tried to conquer East Prussia

[solid gyro]

They used horses which then got terminated from mg fire from a trench thats a little out of date dont you think?

[kindred beacon]

That obviously was but it's worth pointing out that both sides stopped using cavalry on the frontlines like that in the western theatre

They remained useful in the Eastern front, in Mesopotamia and Palestine, and as reconnaissance

[solid gyro]

Yeah that is true

[fluid shadow]

But then paradox would have to create stuff like egypt (who owns sudan), or french indochina, arabian protectorates, etc.. which would be cool; but would break some stuff

[kindred beacon]

WW1 generals all being idiots is a total myth

You must remember no one expected how bloody the great war would become

And how rapidly new technology was evolving - aircraft, artillery, poison gas

[brazen ferry]

Liechtenstein was right there smh

[fervent prairie]

To send their men uselessly into Machine gun fire? Sounds quite idiotic to me

[kindred beacon]

They didn't?

[outer whale]

I dont have a problem mackensen being the symbolic leaders

[kindred beacon]

WW1 had lower casualties than ww2 btw

[solid gyro]

Tbh its funny how war speeds up the tech then the peacefull times on earth kinda sad if you think about it

[outer whale]

I mean mainly it was fought on the battlefields

[stable tusk]

I think Egypt should be a thing because they were only technically in the British Empire, the UK wasn't allowed to have troops in Egypt unless there was a war
And Sudan was jointly controlled by both the UK and Egypt so idk how that would work

[kindred beacon]

And officers had much higher casualty rates than enlisted because most were aristocrats who believed in leading from the front

[fluid shadow]

What about the Crimean war? It wasn't as big as ww1, but there were similarities.

[stable tusk]

Greatest WW1 general

[fervent prairie]

Every single attack on the western front was charges across dead man's land. Yes they did. How do you think the casualties got so bad?

[kindred beacon]

At the tactical and strategic level, both sides began to build advanced trench networks, they improved their military engineering, they developed counter battery fire and new machine gun and artillery tactics to support infantry

[stable tusk]

Even the British PM said that if he wasn't a colonial, he would've been made leader of the BEF

[kindred beacon]

There was no other way to fight other than to try and break the stalemate

And on the other fronts the war was much more mobile

[fluid shadow]

r56 has one alternate solution, but like someone said earlier the UK ai breaks when egypt is a puppet

[kindred beacon]

WW2 changed everything with the mass use of tanks and mechanized troops

That didn't exist yet

[fervent prairie]

Hold the enemy off and allow them to burn their resources away?

[kindred beacon]

That's literally how the allies won

Germany surrendered because they were literally starving to death

They were eating bread made of sawdust and communists were fighting in the streets

[stable tusk]

VICTORY FOR THE ENTENTE

[solid gyro]

Fr once the brits joined it was clear that its over in ww1

[fervent prairie]

The MVPs for the majority of WW2 was the planes

[kindred beacon]

That too

[outer whale]

Well
If central powers managed to seize western russian lands first

[kindred beacon]

But saying WW1 commanders were all morons is wrong. Those who were stubborn and old fashioned like Nivelle got replaced most of the time

[stable tusk]

I don't like the myth that the UK only joined WW1 over Belgium

[outer whale]

the war could have contuined

[kindred beacon]

Exception - Italy

I think if Italy joined the Germans the British would have won even quicker

[kindred beacon]

Yeah they would have joined anyways because they feared German hegemony

[stable tusk]

12 BATTLES OF THE
WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY AGAIN?????

[fluid shadow]

Open new fronts to outflank the enemy like how we saw in Belgium? I know what you mean, but manouvre warfare was a think before ww1, especally seen in prussian doctrine

[kindred beacon]

They did?

[solid gyro]

And they feared the navy build up cause the kaiser ignored bismarcks warnings

[brazen ferry]

Why has this channel devolved into hypotheticals about WWI

[stable tusk]

The British parliament was discussing joining the war as soon as France got involved, they just looked at Belgium and used it as a rallying cry

[fluid shadow]

Like the use of trains in the Franco-Prussian war

[kindred beacon]

"history experts" who believe pop history and leninist mythology on ww1 generals being evil incompetents

[obtuse stratus]

I'm excited to see nukes be useful for something other than a little 1947 dday boost

[outer whale]

tbh I think Italians would collapse if they couldnt hold the Piave River

that would open a new history

[kindred beacon]

Probably. Austria deserves more credit than they're given

So do the Ottomans actually

[solid gyro]

Do you think we get some new planes in game? like the Ho229 which we saw in the thumbnail picture?

[outer whale]

I mean they held their ground against italians

and owned the romanians

[kindred beacon]

For how horribly backwards the Ottoman empire was their army performed very admirably (in battle, not so much other things)

[outer whale]

actually ottoman army was somewhat better equipped than russian army lol

If our army didnt froze

[misty totem]

Wait so am i able to play the germany update on the 14th or right now?

[kindred beacon]

They held out basically alone except for some German reinforcements later on on 3 fronts

[fluid shadow]

like I said, I know what you mean and agree with you, but ww1 wasn't just trowing inf. at the line, it was a bit more than that.

[outer whale]

we'd not get rekt

[kindred beacon]

Caucasian front was a total failure because Enver Pasha was an utter dolt

[solid gyro]

Yeah us austrians are good in mountain combat well we had too 80% or so of our nation is mountains

[fervent prairie]

Government got overthrown due to the US refusal to negotiate with the current leadership of Germany. After that everything went to shit. They surrendured due to the US joining the war. That's why they did such a massive offensive in the first place. To try to break the stalemate before the US could fully do anything

[outer whale]

they developed some "blitzskrieg" kind tactics

like stormtrooper tactics

[kindred beacon]

They fought on for several months actually

[outer whale]

which made the base of the officer corps for blitzskrieg

[solid gyro]

Stormtroopers where the ancestors of the blitzkrieg rush in weaken the enemy and continue

[kindred beacon]

They surrendered because the German army was utterly broken in the Hindenburg offensive, and with the people starving they could not afford to recoup

[outer whale]

do u think if italy surrendered to central powers
would war contuined

[fervent prairie]

They knew the Entente was doing just as bad as them and was on their last legs aswell. No way they would just surrender then

[outer whale]

more than our era

[kindred beacon]

I think even without America joining the Entente win because they were members in all but name

[fluid shadow]

Plus there were revolts in germany

[kindred beacon]

Huge sales of weapons and food

While the Central Powers were largely embargoed

And had ruined relations with America by sinking their cargo ships

[solid gyro]

Yeah it would continue italy was one of six major entente nations

[outer whale]

I think this might have make US join even faster

[fervent prairie]

That why the Central Powers would have won with no US interference

[kindred beacon]

I think so but the Central Powers may have had a shot at winning

Depends when

In 1915 yes, 1917/18 no

[kindred beacon]

No

[outer whale]

wouldnt surrendered italy open a new LARGE front to entente

[fervent prairie]

Yes*

[outer whale]

withdrawing troops from north to south

[kindred beacon]

They probably wouldn't have unless the US ended up becoming totally neutral

They provided heavy sales of arms and food to the Allies

Even before the war

[fervent prairie]

That's what I'm saying

[outer whale]

and what if kaiserschalft didn't happen?

[kindred beacon]

The Germans would have needed to maintain good enough relations with the US to convince them to end all war sales to the Entente

[outer whale]

and central powers waited the foods from ukraine and belarus

[fallen kite]

Omg is that the real King Zog I of Albania

[kindred beacon]

It relieved the situation to a degree but Ukraine was too unstable to feed Germany

Most of the territory was not under the UPR but rather communists, Makhno's "anarchists" (really just bandits) or White Army

And the Bolsheviks did not sign the peace until American troops were already storming German trenches

[outer whale]

what would germany have to do it then

stabilising it by themself

?

[kindred beacon]

Probably

I honestly don't think Germany could have won ww1 the way it worked out

[outer whale]

how much grain was ukraine producing at that time

[kindred beacon]

Maybe if Italy joined the central powers/stayed neutral

Or if the Schlieffen plan succeeded

[outer whale]

or if italy got beaten

[kindred beacon]

Their window to win the war was the first year

[kindred beacon]

Easier said than done

[outer whale]

tbh at least that has less deaths

[kindred beacon]

Germans knew that if they didn't beat France quickly they'd be in real trouble

But the political establishment and the Kaiser didn't care

[solid gyro]

Austria shares the alps with italy yk how long it takes to move through that in a war

[outer whale]

I think italians would surrender if milan fell

[kindred beacon]

The plan also underestimated Russia

[fluid shadow]

The thing is, if the central powers had focused on russia first, not only would the french and british be able to fortify the french border and a lot of french industry, mainly steel and coal production, would have been keep undammaged in french hands, but it would still have taken years to beat russia

[outer whale]

ye even wilhelm 2 wanted to reconsider it

focusing on russia instead of france

[kindred beacon]

One of the reasons that ww1 began when it did was the Germans felt that Russian industrialization would ruin their chances at dominion over europe

[outer whale]

I think that has many buffes than attacking to belguim and france

UK joins late

[kindred beacon]

The plan relied on the fact that since Germany could mobilize their army twice as fast as Russia, they could trade land for time with the Russians and beat the French

But by 1914 while russia wasn't ready for war, they were a lot more ready than Germany thought

The invasion of East Prussia was only stopped by a terrific victory at Tannenberg and Russian troops pushed into Galicia (today part of Poland and Ukraine)

With more troops sent to the east than planned they just didn't have the numbers to overwhelm the French

[outer whale]

SHIT

wrong

Józef Piłsudski

I like this guy's story

he wasn't stupid to trust the entente while they promising creating a poland when russia was still on

but aint stupid to trust germany as well

[solid gyro]

Honestly the dlc and the country pack are perfect

Both of them

It’s what we needed

Germany and Hungary rlly needed updates and we also needed the countries in Europe without a focus tree to get one

And the country pack will be rlly fun

Considering British Raj has a terrible focus tree that could be so much better

Iran and I think Iraq played a role in ww2

And Afghanistan could have an interesting communist path

[bleak breach]

I agree

[fluid shadow]

Iran got occupied by the british and soviets

[opaque basin]

pakistan focus tree???

we need pak ind and bangali trees

[fervent prairie]

Iran got invaded, Iraq rebelled. So yeah they did

[opaque basin]

for raj split

[fluid shadow]

Iraq rebelled and then got invaded

[solid gyro]

Exactly

[obtuse stratus]

are these 3 story tall tanks im seeing in the trailer

in multiple parts too

lemme gues -100% attacking bonus in urban

guess*

[ivory gale]

Just heard the d l c news

[spark talon]

We need Operation Desert Storm for the USA in the middle east pack fr

[ivory gale]

I think we should get more benefits from puppets we release or be able to just change a country's ideology

[obtuse stratus]

im guessing rockets will also be reworked

i also see blimps in the trailer

[ivory gale]

Like Not just democratic

[solid gyro]

Honestly their should be more ideologies in general

[ivory gale]

also true

[ivory gale]

like the Soviet union should be socialist Government type bureaucracy and maybe have something similar to the united
States bill passing thing

[obtuse stratus]

i spotted this focus on the steam page for the expansion paths on the german focus screenshot

"a strong successor"

[ivory gale]

Or maybe conservative socialism

[stable tusk]

TNO reference

[obtuse stratus]

never played tno

[ivory gale]

Because that would make the most sense considering the USSR

[jaunty yacht]

I would love to be able to release subjects just in certain areas, and be able to give lands you control to the puppets without the restriction of cores, that way you can allow a few puppets to turn into a certain formables or just get better borders

[ivory gale]

game be wild cold war

And unfortunately not very fun

[obtuse stratus]

my question is who is the successor

[ivory gale]

It could be a few guys.Germany ends up in a civil war and loses some of its colonies but gets them back

And you can't do anything about it

[obtuse stratus]

maybe youll get to choose

my ideas are himmler and rommel

[ivory gale]

I'm explaining that Germany ends up in a Civil War you can be whoever and win

ah well I don't know

[obtuse stratus]

yeah

but im wondering about the options

[ivory gale]

That and I don't really play the game very well either

Haven't played well for years

That and when I feel sick I really don't feel good...

[cedar cave]

wet dreams of a hoi4 player

[stable tusk]

TNO lore is crazy
Bukharin becomes leader of USSR instead of Stalin, this makes them weaker, somehow
Germany launches Sealion to cap Britain and then defeats the Soviets
THEN Germany along with Japan nuke Hawaii
-Me, a couple days ago

[obtuse stratus]

uh

im not ready for this dlc

[obtuse stratus]

looks like a coup could happen

[cobalt knot]

begging on my knees does anybody have any idea how I can get the art for this expansion as a wallpaper lol

[cobalt knot]

you're absolutely incredible

thank you so much!!!! lmao

[jaunty yacht]

No problem!
I like to put them as a wallpaper too on steam, so I took a photo from the trailer

[cobalt knot]

that's very smart!

[pseudo wing]

i can maybe make the title smaller for a wallpaper for you guys another day when i have time, since I have the art files

[cobalt knot]

LET'S GO that would be awesome

[pseudo wing]

it wouldn't be the 'official' wallpaper or anything but its manageable

[cobalt knot]

in the meanwhile if anyone else wants it I very quickly used waifux2 to make it 2k + a little less image noise

[cyan juniper]

is hess rudolf hess?

[cobalt knot]

enthusiastic nod

[cyan juniper]

idk funny ideology guys very much

[jaunty yacht]

Nice!

[stable tusk]

Yes, idk any other Hesses during this time that were close to the mustachio man

[cedar cave]

yes

[limber frigate]

What should I know about the upcoming dlc

[cyan juniper]

choose him for one of 3 people i can pick
takes flight
mfw

[trim quartz]

Is there gonna be more than one expansion pass?

Would it be wise to purchase the current expansion pass 1, it includes future content which I’m excited about

[rapid dagger]

What will happen to the existing germany and Hungary trees for people who don't buy the dlc

[cyan juniper]

germany hist will probably be base game others are paywalled

[raw sundial]

is the subscription better or buying the dlcs permanantly

[trim quartz]

I buy em, but if you have a steady income then a subscription is best

[solid gyro]

I have a question

A expansion pass is like a pre order of dlcs?

[tacit sequoia]

damn

dlc has lore
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Götterdämmerung

[tacit sequoia]

yep it is

i asked that before and they said yes.

[candid helm]

Are they making you pay for vehicle packs in the expansion pass? I want the song but it would be kinda shitty to make someone pay for vehicle packs.

[jaunty yacht]

If this one works well, most probably, a Japanese one would be quite reasonable, maybe a British and/ or a Chinese one too, other than that, I'm not sure what they can add unless they integrate MTG to the base game too

[azure python]

It's an "incentive"

A really bad one imo

[pseudo wing]

ur lucky I like being nice

[cobalt knot]

YOU ARE SO BASED

THANK YOU SO MUCH

ur niceness is so highly appreciate it

[solid gyro]

I'm using this

So amazing

[pseudo wing]

I'll pin it for people for now if they want it

[trim quartz]

Didn’t it say in the video that expansion pass 1 includes middle eastern content next year?

[pseudo wing]

this is in no way something 'official'-ly done (im doing it in my off time) but it should work for your desktops as needed

[pseudo wing]

correct

[trim quartz]

Oh sick, so I buy the expansion pass I get content for next year

That’s cool

[pseudo wing]

EP contains Gotterdamerung, Graveyard of empires, experimental vehicles (i forget if vehicles or tanks)

[trim quartz]

Paradox really spoiling us

[candid helm]

Is there a detailed layout of Graveyard?

[hollow coral]

I think all we know is iraq iran afghanistan and india

[cyan juniper]

only a carpet photo

[pseudo wing]

nothing really revealed other than what is on the store page for it, but I havent looked at it

[hollow coral]

Chak atleast give us portraits for pakidtan

[wintry mortar]

Wait so is this a subscription or not

[hollow coral]

One time purchase im pretty sure

[wintry mortar]

Alright

[trim quartz]

Pre purchase for this upcoming expansion and a Middle Eastern one for next year

[pseudo wing]

the expansion pass is a one time purchase

[candid helm]

No I know, I mean specific content like we just saw with the German expansions. Makes the expansion pass a little bit risky lol.

[wintry mortar]

Thank you

[bronze wing]

do you have to get the expansion pass within a certain timeframe or no

[trim quartz]

The Middle East was involved in a lot of conflict during ww2, so that’ll be interesting

Hashemite Iraq

Invasion of Iran

Very cool stuff coming

[hollow coral]

guys is it just me or does iran turn communist in every historical game

[cyan juniper]

bc of sov focus tree

[candid helm]

Usually when we pre-order paradox makes sure we mostly know what we are getting. I would honestly prefer pre-ordering the German one and then the Graveyard if it looked good. They could’ve also done a cool song from that area but eh, probably going to get it anyways for Wagner lol

[hollow coral]

yeh

i keep pressing the forward instead of reply

dumb feature

[cyan juniper]

best of middle east dlc will be ottoman empire gets all there as puppets for free and they will likely get giant amounts of eco with new focus tree

[candid helm]

Alexander Empire rework😍

[hollow coral]

i hope formables will start using coring systems like ottomans

[candid helm]

GGR cores is what I’m waiting for

[trim quartz]

I just want to play as Iraq

[hollow coral]

when indian portraits for spies

[tacit sequoia]

do you have one without the logos?

[pseudo wing]

its up to PDX to decide to make one without the logos, I wont edit them out myself

[obtuse ingot]

There’s a mod for that

[tacit sequoia]

aight

[polar jasper]

So, what is the abbreviation for the new DLC? GDR?

[cyan juniper]

gör

[fluid shadow]

Wouldn't it be görd?

[fallen kite]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-oh-my-gourd-pumpkin-pumpkins-halloween-gif-15312937

[plain cove]

I'm confused. What do you have to buy for the new superweapons?

[twin maple]

double reworked germany

i'm gonna do austrian painter's wild ride (sorry fat pilot)

[tranquil bear]

Yeah I’m confused too as to what we’re supposed to be buying

[cyan juniper]

@tranquil bear @plain cove new german dlc in november isnt available for preorder instead you can only preorder bundle but german dlc will be available for buying when it comes out

[woeful oasis]

Shouldn't the trailer say "reich" instead of "empire" ?

[plain cove]

Wait so are they in the german DLC?

[cyan juniper]

yeah

[plain cove]

Ah ok.

[tranquil bear]

They should’ve had the trailer in German with subtitles

[cyan juniper]

speaking english in a german hegemon world is wrong in the first place

[polar jasper]

It appears they went Kaiser route judging by the emblems

Still reich, but the game says empire

[cyan juniper]

it is called censorship

[polar jasper]

Oh well, it is just a game

not like it is a history book

[pseudo wing]

the word empire also translates easier into other languages/is more recognizable than Reich

even though theyre basically the same thing

[tacit sequoia]

is germany getting renamed to deutsches reich in the game?

[hollow coral]

Empire isnt always a monarchy

[hollow coral]

Thats kinda lame

[trim quartz]

That would be silly

[woeful oasis]

I don't fault the game for that just wish they will depict the shortages of war materials that Germany faced as the war dragged on as well as more fleshed out resistance and partisan warfare to the Nazis and co

[hollow coral]

I would suspect paradox has to do some censorship as most countries have cnesorship laws

[frank canopy]

I'd pention for a Resource shortage mechanic

[woeful oasis]

Turning paper into fabric

[hexed mango]

Yeah however we're in an english hegemon world so making the video in german is wrong

[buoyant remnant]

When will we have the graveyard of empires trailer

[trim quartz]

Next year

[sour minnow]

what does the latest expansion dlc do

i forgor

[stable tusk]

You can get it for $50, you're basically preordering the new Gotterdammerung DLC and the Graveyard of Empires Country Pack, you'll also get 2 armour packs and a music track

[sour minnow]

is it worth it guys

i have 0 dlc

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t expect to instantly get the “new” song

[compact shadow]

You’re saying I still have to wait for a Japan dlc!??

aw man, it won’t come for a while

oh well.

[worthy wraith]

as a comchina player, +1. When Asian front redux

[compact shadow]

Asian front so neglected

it makes me sad

The last dlc that was close was Waking the Tiger 😭

[worthy wraith]

peopke only cares about the asian front when America is involved

[mellow geode]

is the new dlc expansion bundle prepurchase going to be available until the first part of the bundle releases, early november or so?

[worthy wraith]

most ppl probably don't know that china is involved in ww2

[mellow geode]

figuring out roughly how long I can wait to save before hitting purchase

[hot zephyr]

Is the new dlc gonna have a bit of a discount when it comes out or what

[limber frigate]

Was their some sort of patch today

[lilac terrace]

next year id bet, in expansion pass 2

[desert cape]

yeah when are we going to get a focus tree for south east asia (mostly siam and the philipines)

[echo halo]

i reckon theyll do exact same thing theyre doing now but with asia in late 2025 or 26

[echo halo]

japan, siam ,dutch east indies

maybe china rework

[solid gyro]

This probably mah be referencing the Inner Circle and the ability to replace Hitler

[echo halo]

and then a country pack with mengukuo, mongolia phillipines?

idk

[solid gyro]

Vhr is there a chance we get like an SA path

[solid gyro]

Prolly

[echo halo]

even tannua tuva lmao

[solid gyro]

It's be more like

East Indies, Malaya, Siam, Phillipines and Jaoan

[echo halo]

yeah

that makes more sense

tbh as much as mengukuo and stuff are wanted idk if they'll get trees

prob ably asia pack with those naitons you mentioned + dutch east indies

and then move to centeral/south america

[tacit sequoia]

We’re probably going to get another state rework lol

But here’s a question for reworks, when’s Czechoslovakia Romania Yugoslavia Greece getting redone?

[small sable]

Greece is fine, and I assume we will never get a Czechoslovakia rework

yugo and romania might get one in q1-q3 2026 (after Göttendämmerung, Graveyard of Empires, and a Far east asian dlc I assume)

[hollow coral]

hope hungary also gains claims on croatia

[hollow coral]

im thinking a southeast asia rework along with japan

and total china rework of all the china warlords and puppets

[hexed mango]

Obviously we qre

Every dlc got a state rework

[hexed mango]

Considering they r doing the dlcs this way rn

[tacit sequoia]

Tbh, only good thing with Greece is the economy and military While the political path is just sad to look at lol

[hexed mango]

I bet there will be a japan + sea big rework and a china country pack

[hollow coral]

yeh industry tree is pretty good

[hollow coral]

probably expansion pack 2

[hexed mango]

Yeah, the historical, monarchis and fascist paths are so bad, the democeatic and even commie ones are okaish

[hexed mango]

Yes

Hope the warlords get some flavour

[hollow coral]

hopefully

[hexed mango]

Need funny horse xibeisanma and nice xinkiang commie focus tree

[tacit sequoia]

I have a gut feeling China maybe separated from Japan. It’ll be a Japan and USA rework so both are up to modern standards, while Philippines, Dutch East Indies, Australia, New Zealand get good/better trees.

[hollow coral]

maybe a seperate commonwealth pack

[tacit sequoia]

True, possibly a warlord rework too.

[tacit sequoia]

Or an oceanic one

[hollow coral]

i would say possible dlcs are a british aligned one so
UK, Ireland, South Africa, Canada, australia and newzealand

uk is not bad

[tacit sequoia]

Since Philippines, Dutch East Indies, Siam, Australia, New Zealand are their own category of a Oceanic Nations

[hexed mango]

Japan with australia, siam, new zealand (small), indonesia (small-medium) and malaya (small)

[hollow coral]

but its as bit outdated

[hollow coral]

maphalindo path surely

[long ruin]

France is weird where the alt history paths are solid but at the same time there isn’t really a super strong path other than Franco Spain I guess

[hollow coral]

napoleonic france is the only vaible path honestly

but not even compares to other paths

[tacit sequoia]

Id be waiting for paradox to say “we’re integrating Man of the Guns into the HOI4 game similarly how we did it with Waking of Tiger, Death or Dishonor, and Together for Victory”

[hollow coral]

i doubt

[tacit sequoia]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow coral]

they are selling it as a starter pack

[tacit sequoia]

Pacific War definitely needs a rework tbh

[hollow coral]

so i doubt they want to give LaR for free

[hollow coral]

fr

and china needs more stuff to prepare for japanese invasion

maybe mini tree like ethiopia has for the war

[tacit sequoia]

True

It also needs political expansion too, hell even ideologically also

[hollow coral]

wangjingwei shouldnt be the leader of the fascist party

the fascist party is called the blue shirt society

which wangjingwei didnt lead

he was only employed by the japanese

maybe japan can make puppets while still at war with china

[tacit sequoia]

They might just merge man the guns since it’s pretty much similar to waking of tiger but USA Britain Mexico and the Netherlands (Netherlands is good for their time, so is the United Kingdom but the rest aren’t..)

Though it needs a naval rework for pacific and English Channel battles

[hollow coral]

i hope japan gets decisions to create puppet states like wangjingwei regime, second philippine republic, empire of vietnam, state of burma and other

kinda like RKs

[tacit sequoia]

That’ll be cool tbh

Possible balance of power between navy and army like Hagakure has it

[hollow coral]

YES

i was thinking of that

political balance of power is cool

but that is perfect for japan

[tacit sequoia]

They already got it, so it’ll be easier to implement that way lol

[hollow coral]

but i hope for japanese prime minsters not just hirohito

[hexed mango]

We just got announcement for germany and people are already discussing japan 😭

[tacit sequoia]

Japanese elections would make sense tbh and you’d be able to elect who you want.

[hexed mango]

Let's just hope that germany js going to be really good

[hollow coral]

Its probably the most outdated major now

[hexed mango]

Yes agreed

[tacit sequoia]

What, can we not focus on the future?

[hexed mango]

But still

Let's discuss germany

!!!!!!

[hollow coral]

I already preordered the expansion

[tacit sequoia]

Most outdated Minor has to be Czechoslovakia and Romania tbh

[hexed mango]

I want wermacht path

[hollow coral]

Crazy excited

[hollow coral]

They did say something about paramilitary

[hexed mango]

And strasser path

[hollow coral]

For ss

[hexed mango]

Man I rly hope strasserism will be in there

[tacit sequoia]

Saddened that they didn’t include it but yk, there’s other times that it can work

[tacit sequoia]

Doubtful but who knows

[hexed mango]

Also hope they got a big foreign policy path

Like the soviets

[hollow coral]

And italy

[tacit sequoia]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed mango]

Soviet one is much bigger

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[tacit sequoia]

People rly want a German tree as big as Soviets but as much as Italy… damn

Ik there’s a Spartacus league path which makes me happy, and full fledged Kaiserreich + Democratic path also

[tepid spindle]

Yeah, that would be cool

Germany literally started ww2

[solid gyro]

Hyped for Iraq

in 2025

Especially since in WW2 there was that coup and war in 1941

[tender bough]

So given the changes to the Hungary Tree, if trying to get the Austria-Hungary achievement, do I disable the new expansion?

[hexed mango]

I hope they will make the raj interesting

Idc about iran or afghansitan that much

Afghanistan is in quite an unfortunate position lol

[hollow coral]

more generals hopefully

[small sable]

they could make something cool regarding the raj and central asia

[hollow coral]

i dont want stinky british generals in india

[hexed mango]

List of all the focus related stuff we got to see so far (open link fkr better quality)
https://shared.akamai.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/3152810/ss_b88da89d008e484e473927a8076146e4d71004ec.jpg?t=1727976274
https://shared.akamai.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/3152810/ss_6cf808e363503b13c57fae2395a61c3af32e84ea.jpg?t=1727976274
https://shared.akamai.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/3152810/ss_79bd22713396c4c42c9ac27bebdfab490b87a535.jpg?t=1727976274

[hollow coral]

and gimme indian spy portraits

[small sable]

some sort of a raj guerrila war with ethiopia war mechanics, britain enters only when they reach delhi

and peaces out when you take it all or a large enough section

[hollow coral]

maybe japan can influence pro freedom in india to cause civil war

[hexed mango]

Going to play goobeers germany so hard

[solid gyro]

Do y'all think we're getting Soviet joint tree similar to Austria Hungary in the future?

[silent prism]

There did you get it?

[hexed mango]

Shhhh

🧏‍♂️🤫

[dusky orbit]

For how long will the Expansion pass be available?

[ivory forum]

How long is the 20% off going to last?

[verbal flare]

the expansion is like 3 dlcs?

[prisma wing]

1 expension pack
1 country pack
1 3D model pack

[chrome vortex]

dlcs for hungary germany austria belgium congo
dlc for iraq iran afghanistan raj
3 tank models and a music pack
some weird mechanic dlc

[verbal flare]

alr

[wispy flare]

I buy news DLC all and music didnt see in game why?

[verbal flare]

prototype vehicles is a dlc on its own?

[verbal flare]

maybe you have to download it?

[wispy flare]

Its auto

[solid gyro]

The new dlcs will be in game once its released you only preordered it for now

[solid gyro]

You buyed the dlcs which was revealed yesterday right?

[wispy flare]

Yes

[solid gyro]

You need to wait till the release dates like götterdämmerung comes in 14 of november out and the rest next year you only preordered them all for now

[wispy flare]

And music hm?

[verbal flare]

I think he's talking about the music

[solid gyro]

the music comes also i think this year with götterdämmerung out

not sure though

[wispy flare]

I think 2 dlc come yesterday

And I didint see music in game

[solid gyro]

Yesterday was the reveal my guy the release for the dlcs are as follows götterdämmerung with the music comes this year the rest is next year thats why the music is not in game as its not time yet

[solid gyro]

they only talked about the stuff which will come and the future plans for more the game

[solid gyro]

ik but its for preordering......

you need to wait like everyone else

[wispy flare]

Bruhh

[solid gyro]

they even said when they come out on which date......

[wispy flare]

All with one date releasing ah this time i dont like this waiting

[brazen ferry]

My brother in Sol Invictus the Germany DLC releases in a month and 10 days

They revealed it as soon as the release date as possible

[outer whale]

I wonder if we can appoint paul von lettow-vorbeck as chancellor

Like
I HOPE democratic tree isn't only limited with adenaur

[solid gyro]

Hope I can get prototype small arms too

If they are plausible

[brazen ferry]

I don't know enough about democratic alternatives for Germany in 1936, but I do hope that they make the gameplay feel somewhat different depending on if your leader is a liberal, a conservative, a democrat socialist...

Also, if they want a secret Hitler for the new DLC, they should add Kaiser Hitler from that one anti-Nazi propaganda poster

[pearl rover]

is the new content included in the subscription or do you need to buy it sepertly

[tacit sequoia]

It isn’t subscription, it’s one time payment afaik

[pearl rover]

rip

[heady stag]

would nukes get a rework in the next expansion, the one coming out in november?

[wary spade]

I imagine most of it will be included

in the announcement at the end the guy said so

[unkempt moth]

Are there any regular updates nowadays in HoI4?

[bronze crane]

possibly, as the "special projects" may contain Wunderwaffen and Projects like the Manhatten Project it is likely they will tweak some mechanics...

Also: I am doing my Part 🫡

[stoic moat]

I will do mine soon

[errant forge]

This is correct, as per Arheo's announcement "All items listed above except for the first bullet-point will be available for purchase separately as per usual, or in the DLC subscription" so you miss out on 3 new 3D tanks and a music track, but the rest is available via the subscription

[bronze crane]

am i right, guessing that in 2025/26 there will be a Expansion Pass II?

[hollow coral]

cant wait to play congo

[bronze crane]

But dont do warcrimes in the congo ;)

[hollow coral]

as the congo?

[bronze crane]

well... doesnt really make it a lot better

[hollow coral]

dont worry im not a waffle person

[bronze crane]

:)

(Bittersteel is now crying in the corner)

[hollow coral]

crazy

[jolly pagoda]

I think he meant the subscription that gives all the dlc if you pay monthly

[wary spade]

yeah he did

[tacit flame]

i feel like germany is alwaying winning no matter what

no matter what the allies do they just got too many divisions

[wary spade]

(allied AI is nerfed)

[woeful oasis]

Will they include AIDs or HIV in the Congo since it showed up in the area around WWI?

[tacit flame]

when luxembourg dlc bru

[hollow coral]

bro what💀

breeding in hoi4 is crazy

[wary spade]

breeding tanks for more tanks

I can get behind that idea

[hollow coral]

breeding horses for cavalry fr

[wary spade]

yeah to get faster or higher HP horses

mmmm

[hollow coral]

minecraft ahh

[wary spade]

yes

[wary spade]

Minecraft bedrock ahh reference

[woeful oasis]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_HIV/AIDS

[hollow coral]

i know what hiv/aids is

[wary spade]

lmao

does he know?

[hollow coral]

idk

[wary spade]

he doesn't!?1?1?

[woeful oasis]

"While various sub-groups of the virus acquired human infectivity at different times, the present pandemic had its origins in the emergence of one specific strain – HIV-1 subgroup M – in Léopoldville in the Belgian Congo (now Kinshasa in the Democratic Republic of the Congo) in the 1920s."

[wary spade]

hahaha he just keeps going

[hollow coral]

its a disease you get from uncovering the origin of life

[wary spade]

my man is dedicated to having viruses in hoi4

[hollow coral]

i like how denmark has a advisor that grants monthly population growth

like what is bro doin to grow the population

[wary spade]

the funny

[hollow coral]

👅

[solid gyro]

what

why yall talking about hiv lol

[hollow coral]

someone asked if hiv and aids will be added

like as an event

[solid gyro]

huhh 😭

wth 💀

[woeful oasis]

It's that it was already in Congo at the time

[hollow coral]

paradox adding something players will never have😭 (that includes me)

[solid gyro]

is expansion pack worth it

wait nvm it is

i calculated it

i honestly think that this dlc will either be the best ever or will flop

the stakes are high cuz of the hype

[thick edge]

Meh

50/50

[solid gyro]

exactly

the india/middle east one wil be good tho

better then toa anyways

[supple plover]

at this point anything is better than toa

[solid gyro]

yeah

by blood alone is overrated

like $30 dollars for 1 focus tree

cuz ethiopia, swiss and aussa all suck

[supple plover]

to a degree yes

but toa sucks so much to me

[solid gyro]

italy is still a masterpiece tho

[supple plover]

im def buying the pack and the dlc

looks very fun to play

[primal rock]

They've starved the playerbase of content lol

Until now anyway

[solid gyro]

only cuz they were quite about it

[supple plover]

i am not buying toa

[solid gyro]

they shouldve done like teasers

[supple plover]

nor will i buy anything from south america if the trees are the quality of toa

[outer whale]

Yeah I have almost all dlcs expect that

[fresh cedar]

People say that about pretty much every paradox DLC

[chilly drum]

Are people memeing about ToA or something?

[fresh cedar]

Only sith deal in absolutes

[chilly drum]

I started to play around it and it seems fun

My first games was in ARG where I learned how to actually play game

[gaunt trout]

I really like the game and stuff but in romania 40 euros its too much....

[fresh cedar]

So only buy the pack you want when it comes out.

[gaunt trout]

Yes lol.

But tho its still to much...

[fresh cedar]

$40 is for the expansion group. It’ll probably be like $20

Just budget and save like $5 a paycheck for it

$20 here is the avg cost of a meal per person at a restaurant if not less.

[gaunt trout]

I dont really like to eat out lol.

[chilly drum]

I actually sold my old phone that I wasn't using to get the expansion

[fresh cedar]

Just saying how the price compares to other consumer activities

I can say that I get a lot more out of a HOI4 DLC than I do a single meal

[chilly drum]

Depends on country, honestly

[gaunt trout]

Yes...

Again i live in romania...

In comparison 20 Euros in romania its 100 lei....

[chilly drum]

For 3 bucks you can get a solid combo in local burger king

[gaunt trout]

You can get 20 big macs with that much money..

[fresh cedar]

Not here lol

[chilly drum]

Thats 1/8 of a dlc

[fresh cedar]

I wish burgerking was so cheap here

[outer whale]

Oh nice dlc pack is 22 bucks

[fresh cedar]

Or McDonald’s even

Genuinely where is a fast food burger $1? Because where I live they’re like $6.40 USD

[chilly drum]

Western Europe

[fresh cedar]

This is in USD

I wish our CPI was like yours for fast food, jeez 😂

[glacial grail]

will have the new dlc in my subscribtion ??

[fresh cedar]

Pretty sure subscription covers all DLC, no?

[glacial grail]

i dont have it rn ? or is it not available yet

[fresh cedar]

First DLC from this expansion comes out on November 14th, in a month.

[thick edge]

Almost $10

Bruh

[glacial grail]

mb

[fresh cedar]

Only things you should have now is a Lowe tank model for the Superheavy German tank and Ride of the Valkyries song

[thick edge]

My fatass is sad

[fresh cedar]

If you have Ride of the Valkyries, then yes you will get them all

[fresh cedar]

Same, it’s why I don’t eat fast food anymore

[copper pasture]

bro, just download the apps. You get crazy deals.

[fresh cedar]

That is on the app 😂

[pseudo wing]

in many places, fast food, whether on the app or not, is simply not cheap and fast, now its just fast

[fresh cedar]

My area is just cooked ig

[copper pasture]

are you using any of the deals?

[fresh cedar]

Yup

I just prefer to eat at a normal restaurant for the same price tbh

Or better yet, have 4-6 meals at that price by making my own at home with groceries

[copper pasture]

I never go to burger king, but I pay 4$ max for mcdouble drink and fries at mcdonalds :/

[fresh cedar]

McDonald’s has the same prices for me. My area just ain’t it

[copper pasture]

where you at lol, the ritz?

[fresh cedar]

New England region of USA

Where you at? Bosnia?

[copper pasture]

lol, virginia

[fresh cedar]

Not sure why you did the throw up face to the northeast. But alright 😂

[chilly drum]

Living in post soviet country, we never had cheap fast food, unfortunately. It was always costly, just not that costly in recent years

[copper pasture]

just messing around, no hate 🙂

Everything is just notoriously expensive in that region

[fresh cedar]

I know for some it was because the megacorp running the places were pulled out and replaced

[fresh cedar]

Really is

[thick edge]

I am missing out on cat stickers

[static dew]

So there was just a 140mb update? What is it?

[fading walrus]

Same lol

[woeful oasis]

Improving public housing, increasing benefits, making sure sanitation is good, and improving public health care probably

[hollow coral]

More public healthcare lesgoo we should have children

[fresh cedar]

Did you buy the expansion?

[indigo kite]

how skibidi rizz is the update

[silk jacinth]

If you buy the pack you get a song plus some models

But I think it could be bug + balance change

[static dew]

I have subscription, i thought it wasn't out yet until nov 14?

[haughty aspen]

You get some perks for buying it early. I believe it was a new song, a few new models and that's it.

[fresh cedar]

Yes but they added the new song and a few tank models already

[static dew]

Quite a hefty size for a song and a few tank models

Had me thinking the new German tree was out

[fast flame]

u can get a cheese burger in sweden for 1 dollar

[fresh cedar]

The dream

[ruby shard]

will we have stream today

[outer whale]

That's next week

[pseudo wing]

it should start next week

[thick edge]

Next week is not this week

https://tenor.com/view/brain-meme-you-did-not-have-to-cut-me-off-gif-498898395089837096

[mortal thunder]

are u ever goign to what modders already done and add some ponit to building civs early or have mobilization laws affecting civ building.
like civilian economy should give bonus to building civs as capitalist are investing in expansion rather than warbonds

there should be some 100pp to get 15% civ via quantative easing

[polar jasper]

Civilian economy represents many factories are producing consumer goods, not building factories

Higher mobilization means the government is stepping in and contracting more and more factories to do what the government needs done

[hexed mango]

next week gonna be ok

but the week after gonna go hard with both historical german and full hungarian trees revealed

[solid gyro]

Cant wait to build even bigger tractors then the maus

[mortal thunder]

i want die glocke saucers

the ratte should give u a base 10% war support just for the marvel

[hexed mango]

I want himmlerite path

gonna go nuts

[stable tusk]

Hoi4 players with the new DLC

https://tenor.com/view/german-ww2-maus-panzer-viii-maus-babft-build-a-boat-for-treasure-gif-27602910

[solid gyro]

Fr would be interesting to see the chicken farmer in charge of germany

[outer whale]

%100 sure that multi will ban the military raids and the projects

thats a bit speaking early

lemme fix

%99*

better

[jaunty yacht]

Yeah the German DLC is more expensive this time around for 5 dollars, but the expansion pass is actually worth it if you only want the DLC's since you would be saving around 3 dollars more than if you bought only the DLC's, alongside with getting the bonuses

[ocean sierra]

but wait will this be a dlc or an extension pack that you gotta buy seperatly?

[solid gyro]

yes

[ocean sierra]

helpful

[jaunty yacht]

You can buy the DLC alone or with the expansion pass that brings the Middle East DLC a Unit Pack for prototype vehicles and two bonuses one being 3 more prototype vehicles and Ride of the Valkyries

[solid gyro]

np 😁

[unreal beacon]

you can buy DLC only and then when the Middle east DLC comes out buy it too

[ocean sierra]

well i have the subscription

[jaunty yacht]

Then don't worry

[unreal beacon]

literally why...

[timid maple]

yall

[unreal beacon]

how long do you play HOI4 for?

[timid maple]

do i get the new dlcs that are gonna come out

if i have the subscription?

[unreal beacon]

yeah

[jaunty yacht]

Yes

[timid maple]

aight

thx

[ocean sierra]

a year and half maby? and i bought it like 5 months ago now

[unreal beacon]

its better to buy DLCs on sale

subscriptions in general are just money drain

[ocean sierra]

i mean im not paying for it its a present from my family in law

[unreal beacon]

oh

fair

[ocean sierra]

yes sir

but yaeh so ill have everything in the net extension?

next

[stable tusk]

You can buy it separatly or buy the expansion pack which gives you an extra song and armour pack

[ocean sierra]

okok

[timid maple]

yall

[frozen oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEjpnRoJkbA

[analog panther]

Do yall think that the expansion pack is worth it, it definitely seems like that

[timid maple]

i got the subs rn i kjust get the song and the supporter pack rn yes?

and when the new dlc releases on november 14th i get it if i have the subscription

[analog panther]

Yeah

[analog panther]

Yep I think so

[gleaming palm]

Ive bought today the pack, currently only skins right ?

[severe bramble]

Landkreuzer 1000 ratte

[subtle spire]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte

[solid gyro]

Im realizing that re-working Germany may set a bad precedent

[halcyon rune]

Fat rat

[solid gyro]

Because if Germany's tree is going to be really good, and the Japan and USA reworks are good

People will want France and UK reworks

[halcyon rune]

France 🥺

[solid gyro]

And when those are even better people will want reworks for the Reworked nations

Paradox has now done a Sissyphus

Hoi5 is our GTA 6

[zenith cargo]

Maybe it was the friends we made along the way

[stable tusk]

We don't need a Hoi5, Hoi4 is peak Hearts of Iron

[fresh cedar]

I wonder if nuking the new monuments will have greater impacts on countries. Would also be cool if the USA got the Golden Gate

[subtle spire]

they should give as the option to nuke France

[hexed mango]

Yes

And then I'll want a soviet rework

And maybe an italian one

And then a german rework

[tardy flame]

you will receive the dlc on nov 14

read the desc

[tight blaze]

already talking about a germany rework before this one hasnt even dropped is wild

[stable tusk]

I hope they make the Hungarian monarchist focuses better, especially Democratic King

[tardy flame]

I just want a good historical tree 😭

[hexed mango]

https://shared.akamai.steamstatic.com/store_item_assets/steam/apps/3152810/ss_79bd22713396c4c42c9ac27bebdfab490b87a535.jpg?t=1727976274

[stable tusk]

They didn't even change it 😭

[hexed mango]

for real

not like there are other shared focuses on the left

[cyan juniper]

thats what filthy democrats deserve

[stable tusk]

They only added "Cancel the German Trade Deal", "Increase Economic Cooperation", and "Hold Territorial Referendums"
The rest I believe only belong to the New Dynasty branch

[hexed mango]

seems enough for me

what else can you even do with a democratic monarcuck

hold referendums to get territories

and then do the military and industrial focuses to fend off the germans

[stable tusk]

Still, I would've liked the tree to be more expanded considering it was one of the worst paths in the old tree

[wise oxide]

since germany is the "main character" of the game did the team have to update most countries focustrees to work with the new germany + i wonder how the balance changed

[obtuse ingot]

HoI could be called something different:

Legacy of War, Spirit of War, etc.

[thick edge]

Hearts of iron

[wise oxide]

it sounds like a cheap bootleg hoi for mobile also Hoi is iconic its like renaming minecraft to mycubebuild it would lose recognition (sorry for my rather poor english linguistical skills)

[stable tusk]

This is your worst take by far
Hearts of Iron sounds better and is more unique

[thick edge]

Hethr’s ideas usually suck

[wise oxide]

guys hoi should be renamed "stuggle of countries" ahh suggestion

commie hoi could be hearts of steel frfr

lungs of copper is superior tbh

[thick edge]

Rename it to

Uhhhh

Bloods of red

[wise oxide]

kidney of coal

[tardy flame]

make war not love

[wise oxide]

friends of iron 4

[thick edge]

Signs of iron

Sunshine and lollipops 4

[tardy flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130589521810038848/1289671817493086281/togif-4.gif

[wise oxide]

HoI could be called something different:

Legacy of peace, Spirit of peace, etc.

[thick edge]

[wise oxide]

lets hope the next dlc will be industry rework fr on god

[tardy flame]

I just want more tech to shit with

[stable tusk]

TOO BAD
WE NEED TO INVEST IN WUNDERWAFFEN

[thick edge]

THEY WILL WIN THE WAR

Shove a naval gun on a tank

Make hamster wheels

[wise oxide]

guys can yall put irl on 5 speed? so we get the next dlc focus completed irl?

[thick edge]

Make a block steel with a gun

[wise oxide]

im hyped for new states and releaseables

[formal garnet]

@pseudo wing Can we get a new improved default focus tree. The old one is really outdated...

[wise oxide]

fr on god

just copy it from road to 56 mod ask them nicely

[wise oxide]

they make regional generic trees

[olive bolt]

anyone got tips on mig welding?

[wise oxide]

just scrap it and get an f 35

[cyan juniper]

you clearly didnt saw others 💀

[stable tusk]

I did, I saw almost every single one

But this one is the worst

[obtuse ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/waffledaygifs-waffles-gif-4456651

[obtuse ingot]

It would be expanded to different wars throughout history, not just ww2

[stable tusk]

Hearts of Iron is still a better name, make your own game if you want an expanded Hoi with a worse name

[robust lantern]

FUUUUUKKKKK!!! Another year without a Japan rework! Why would I need a Congo focus tree when I can't play a proper Japan

[obtuse ingot]

Would Hearts of Bronze work for wars in Antiquity?

[brazen ferry]

There's a game for that

Imperator: Rome

[spare mesa]

I do hope that what we have seen from the Tree in the store page of the DLC is just the a WIP, because that is a pityfully small economic Tree.

[fresh cedar]

Imperator Rome was such a good game with promise too

[fresh cedar]

Generally how it is with every DLC

Though Germany is more about economic growth through conquest

[muted stump]

Eiffel Tower 3D model???

[hollow idol]

soviet tree rework in future next.

got to bring the council system to the council

[kindred beacon]

It got reworked like 2 years ago

and is the best tree in the game

Only thing I would want for the Soviets is a path to restore democracy or a constitutional monarchy in the anti-commie route

Menshevik Gamers rise up

[fallen kite]

Asia re-work

[olive pivot]

japan rework

[obtuse ingot]

Not imperator. It doesn’t have Alexander’s campaign.

[brazen ferry]

I'm sure if its development had continued they could've added a bookmark that is literally 30 years before the actual game start

Plus I think there's a mod for Alexander's time

[ashen oyster]

Rate the turkish victory (multiplayer)

I handled caucasia by myself

[obtuse ingot]

There’s an hoi4 mod for it…

[ashen oyster]

tbf the soviet player was shit

at the game