latest-updates

[fickle sedge]

More info in Dev Diaries. 👍

[barren tusk]

when starts?

[hollow idol]

can someone zoom in so i can read these

[fickle sedge]

Next week, Monday I think

[nimble torrent]

I'd wager like the shared tree for the nordics, it's meant to signify that there's a mechanic for those focuses

[nimble torrent]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3152780/Expansion__Hearts_of_Iron_IV_Gotterdammerung/

Steam

Expansion - Hearts of Iron IV: Götterdämmerung

Build the industrial and research foundation to survive the world’s greatest conflict In Hearts of Iron IV: Götterdämmerung. In this expansion, players can write new histories of Germany, Austria, Hungary and Belgium. Pursue exciting new research and military options, opening new paths for devastating new weapons and dramatic raids on strategic ...

Price

$36.99

Release Date

Nov 14, 2024

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[pseudo wing]

wednesday also has something... special

[calm bramble]

they even got Bormann!1!1!

[tulip wigeon]

Oh you're really making us wait til Thanksgiving for the meat of the dlc

[calm bramble]

Im lagging so hard xdddd

[candid swan]

kinda hoped a netherlands rework since meh

[barren tusk]

also @fickle sedge i don't know if you can mention but did you touch something to spain?

[outer whale]

chak pls inform hoi4 state makers to make Eupen a state
so we can have perfect imperial german borders

[fickle sedge]

That is very true 😆

[nimble torrent]

@pseudo wing
Terribly sorry to annoy you but
Can you tell us what modders/mod development teams have recieved the DLC in order to make Day1 patches?

[pseudo wing]

cannot say which ones, but there are a few teams afaik

[nimble torrent]

(I'm a big fan of those and i think it's a great way to reward those that add so much to the game for free)

[south meadow]

spain ain't getting changed

[nimble torrent]

thanks!

[candid swan]

damm

[pseudo wing]

comment on the DD's for it and maybe it becomes a reality

if there is a desire for it maybe it gets implemented

who knows

[barren tusk]

i suppose not but i can add something or rework something i love playing spain

[solid gyro]

Going to Campaign against Eupen

[south meadow]

• by an spaniard

[hollow idol]

still waiting for EU to be a option for democratic germany

[solid gyro]

We must enforce Versailles

[barren tusk]

true

[solid gyro]

Is this TNO?

[nimble torrent]

we gotta make a poll

• add a new state
• do not add a new state
  (watch the second option win by a landslide)

[fading walrus]

he was already in the game

[chilly drum]

...im glad that Age of Wonders is turn based, I can play both games at the same time

[fading walrus]

he was one of two PP advisors

[barren tusk]

Galicia?

galiza civil war

[chilly drum]

They both come out in the same time

I mean dlc for those games

[mortal thunder]

community team is there some ask devs feedback here like ck3 channel has feedback

[calm bramble]

so it seems the military and foreign policy trees are kind of merged

[barren tusk]

i thinks devs it's time to add andalusia independence state

or paisos catalans

Valencia and catalonia

for real

[nimble torrent]

how is age of wonders if i may?
was always wondering if i should get it tbh
(sorry if this is the wrong chat)

[mortal thunder]

how the f do i tag mods

[pseudo wing]

It's HOI's Turn

[woeful oasis]

Yeah I'm not buying it

[nimble torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-turn-to-dust-finnicklomlgif-gif-6202351048420329284

[pseudo wing]

wdym

[solid gyro]

I find your lack of faith... disturbing

[meager cradle]

We need German releasables 🔥🔥🔥

And a trillion German states

[mortal thunder]

i really wanna know if just germany get the new system or if soviet usa or sweden get new system.
can northen light recruit nils bohr as a scientist to make nukes?

[fading walrus]

we probably will

[candid swan]

is fascist eu possible? i never tried forming the eu i prefer the hre instead

[solid gyro]

Can't wait to Customize my Reichskomorrisats to be as cursed as possible

[calm bramble]

Man I wouldn't mind if this released on Christmas

[mortal thunder]

denmark being op

[nimble torrent]

now that's an interesting question

[calm bramble]

so a little more meat is added to the focus trees

[fading walrus]

Italy, France, UK, and USSR are already breakable

[pseudo wing]

wdym by system, do you mean the scientist system?

[hexed mango]

still need wermacht path...

[mortal thunder]

yes experimental stuff. can u make draken tunnan jets?

[outer whale]

https://youtu.be/X35yPqws-vk?si=vkQGzpl0Mp8kmsRj

[meager cradle]

Congo world conquest 🔥🔥🔥

[limber dove]

so boys, is it avalible to buy on steam yet?

[solid gyro]

Not breakable enough, I want to make Warlord stayes

[barren tusk]

@pseudo wing have you considered to annex instead catalonia Catalonia + valencia + balear islands and create paisos catalans?

[hexed mango]

this

[outer whale]

Imperial germany path reference?!?
@pseudo wing

[meager cradle]

Birmingham empire

[mortal thunder]

will iosif stalin super tank be made experimental

[pseudo wing]

iirc everyone will get access to the some of the science stuff but not sure how much

[calm bramble]

I'm guessing the little entente nations won't be reworked till at least late 2025 early 2026 😢

[solid gyro]

Maybe it's in the alt history paths

I want my Rommel leader 🥰

[pseudo wing]

cant ask me that, I just see cool giant tank and offered feedback on some of the video

im not sure what the references are in the video half the time

i just see pretty video

:p

[mortal thunder]

so aussa ethiopia super federation making wunderwaffe tanks confirmed?

[meager cradle]

German Communism 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[calm bramble]

since it's safer to assume that we're getting an east asia rework after the graveyard of empires expansion

[pseudo wing]

who knows

[cyan juniper]

they couldnt use swastikas in trailer bruh

[barren tusk]

Chak have you considered to annex instead catalonia Catalonia + valencia + balear islands and create paisos catalans?

??

[hexed mango]

maybe we'll get little entente country pack at some point

[pseudo wing]

I wouldn't make that decision but I don't think its in the plans at this point in time

[solid gyro]

They could've used the flag they do in-game.

But pretty sure anything referencing Nazi victory is banned in Germany

[mortal thunder]

its sounds like sht i rather see a communist plot of espionage function being expanded having seperate ai playing against u like in spain.
where communist in france and luxemburg tries undermining germany

[barren tusk]

and independence andalucia?

there are independentist andalusian movements

[pseudo wing]

if that is being added it'll be in the patch notes, outside of that idk

[nimble torrent]

Don't think it is anymore
But
Adding swastikas adds weird fellows too, so it might be better to avoid them as much as possible

[mortal thunder]

we need andorra and lichtenstein focus tree first

[barren tusk]

great, anything in spain added would be grateful

[thick edge]

Luxembourg

[meager cradle]

The Vatican world conquest

[barren tusk]

just annex bottom like Euskal herria or catalonia

[mortal thunder]

too big and relevant

[calm bramble]

Austria is basically the Aussa of Europe

kinda

[barren tusk]

btw Chak in catalonia when you independence you could add the catalonia independentist flag (with blue and star)

[full ermine]

guys whats the update with 200 MBs, is there new update?

[pseudo wing]

best place to make a suggestion is on the forum

[ornate ice]

@pseudo wing

[jaunty yacht]

That should be either Luxembourg or Albania

[pseudo wing]

expansion pass instant unlocks, the song and the tank models

[mortal thunder]

it sucks u keep getting banned over nothing there

[barren tusk]

attach it pls

[pseudo wing]

MY NEMESIS, TIME TO REAP WHAT YOU HAVE SOWN

@ornate ice

[calm bramble]

oh yeah

[pseudo wing]

the DOUBLE ping

[full ermine]

oh so they are available Day 1, interesting, thx Chak

[pseudo wing]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[ornate ice]

When we inevitably meet in hand-to-hand combat, it will be to the death

[solid gyro]

Will Red Skull be added to the German Advisors?

[ornate ice]

make peace with your creator

[pseudo wing]

preferably mine please

[jaunty yacht]

Austria is more like the Ethiopia of Europe

[wind sluice]

Anyone knows what the vehicle prototypes are??

[pseudo wing]

i dont wanna pay rent anymore

[mortal thunder]

please be professional and keep the CAW CAW private

[mortal thunder]

will be top mod on steam workshop on launch day

[mortal thunder]

sleep in the office?

[tulip wigeon]

What like the wunderwaffe?

[brazen ferry]

Països Catalans mentioned!!!🔥 🔥 🔥

Que collons és un Estat a Europa?!?!?🗣️ 🗣️

[solid gyro]

Convince your paradox compatriots to overthrow the Swedish government and shift all production to new Hoi4 dlc

[wind sluice]

It says vehicle prototypes in the last expansion idk what that means

[barren tusk]

@pseudo wing where is the company located (country)

[pseudo wing]

its a bit hard to sleep in swedish offices while living in canada

[tulip wigeon]

Stuff like the RATTE I think

[barren tusk]

you say free paisos catalans and not Euskal Herria

oso txarto

[mortal thunder]

sleep in linus techtips office?

[pseudo wing]

wrong side of canada

lmao

[mortal thunder]

im sure he can make a video of it and make it a tax write off

[wind sluice]

So we get new types of battallions

Thats cool

[stable tusk]

Break into Ubisoft Montreal

[solid gyro]

They're adding motorycles

[stable tusk]

Same province

[pseudo wing]

nah, this aint assassins creed no need for that

[solid gyro]

Stealing Blueprints mission

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-cat-huh-small-cat-huh-what-gif-2593177363967991691

[solid gyro]

Can he even Micro?

[pseudo wing]

me?

hell no im bad at this game

XD

[solid gyro]

No the cat

[pseudo wing]

the cat, most definitely

[nimble torrent]

bro knows 0 strats

(the cat)

[brazen ferry]

One of us

[solid gyro]

I have reached 3k hours

I dont know how navy works

Is there anyone that's actually good at hoi4?

[brazen ferry]

Pathetic

Most of these are modding tho

[thick edge]

We need a video of Chak playing hoi4

[solid gyro]

Smh

[pseudo wing]

nope, there is too much pausing and I am bad at this game

[thick edge]

So am I

[pseudo wing]

I do not make HOI content outside of the stuff I already do, though I did take the screenshots for the AAT storepage :3

[solid gyro]

Can we do a thing where if anough pre-orders are done you HAVE to play hoi4

[balmy glade]

Yuppie

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-avengers-endgame-old-man-i-dont-think-i-will-gif-14669627

[thick edge]

Make an official vote

In news channel

[solid gyro]

Yes

[thick edge]

We need you too

[pseudo wing]

I must stick to things like the old summer sale assets from last year

there is where my skill lies

[solid gyro]

Chak Germany v. Dev team allies

[thick edge]

Real

[pseudo wing]

they will wipe the floor with me

regardless of how op anything is

LMAO

[thick edge]

Imma help fr

[solid gyro]

Bring in Steiner

[thick edge]

Now

[solid gyro]

He can win the war

[thick edge]

Don1 battalion inf divs

Those only

And u need 5 max

[solid gyro]

Do

Batallions even do anything in divisions

Or I mean regiments

[pseudo wing]

they have their uses

though I am too dumb to use said things effectively

I prefer to be a supportive player in this game

[solid gyro]

I'm dumb, what do we call like the X axis

[pseudo wing]

the what now

[mortal thunder]

will there be a prototype system where combat testing leads to research bonuses so it makes sense sending 10 joke tanks to spain
constnatly having 1 mil on new prototypes in synergy with research

[muted swan]

only in singleplayer?

[pseudo wing]

there'll be more info in the special projects DD next week I think

[mortal thunder]

can u just hire me for creative design and pay me in muffins

[outer whale]

Do
Hoi4 youtubers vs hoi4 devs

[thick edge]

I mean

[muted swan]

these operations probably require intelligence and stuff

[outer whale]

But like stage

[barren tusk]

touching grass how many hours?

[muted swan]

will the intelligence tab get updated as well

[outer whale]

First hoi4 discord mods vs hoi4 youtubers

[pseudo wing]

If I could hire people I dont think we'd be in a good spot, im great at what i do but idk about hiring people lmao

[outer whale]

Then hoi4 discord mods vs hoi4 devs

Then hoi4 youtubers vs hoi4 devs

[thick edge]

Hire me for $5 a day

Idk what to do

[pseudo wing]

i would go to prison, sorry

[mortal thunder]

i hope u get far larger roster of spies and be able to send them on dussins of missions

[muted swan]

thats illegal in sweden

[thick edge]

Oh yeah

[outer whale]

Donate me 1 dollar for a month

[thick edge]

Minimum wage

[pseudo wing]

interesting idea but I dont make the content decisions

[outer whale]

1 dollar is like 40 TL here lol

[thick edge]

I’m a long term intern

[outer whale]

Plss take it to the big places

[solid gyro]

Yea

[outer whale]

Ppl want content from hoi4

[thick edge]

Should I buy food or starve

[outer whale]

Give us content

[mortal thunder]

what do u even do u seem useless

[thick edge]

lol

[solid gyro]

The columns

[thick edge]

Ur cooked

Pray

[muted swan]

what is this 💀

[solid gyro]

They did do one for BoB

[brazen ferry]

Is Maple Syrup an accepted form of currency in Canada?

[outer whale]

Do again

[solid gyro]

No my division I just want to know what the columns are called

[pseudo wing]

lmao

I am the person typing out all the DD's, collecting feedback to both devs and players, managing the discord, the challenges, assets on a tonne of things

Just because I do not make THE decisions does not mean I am useless, friend

[outer whale]

But this time proper map

[thick edge]

Probably

[pseudo wing]

I wish

[outer whale]

U are too good

At ur job

[pseudo wing]

though people stole like 3 million bucks worth of it a while back

[outer whale]

U keep us having fun here

[mortal thunder]

so u do have a direct link of feedback to devs i knew it

[thick edge]

3 million worth of syrup

[tacit sequoia]

Damn

No Czechoslovakia

But goddamn it works lol

[thick edge]

Chak, u have to be very very persuasive

[pseudo wing]

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/great-canadian-maple-syrup-heist

18 million actually

LMAO

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/very-canadian-proud-smiling-host-tiff-gif-12659130

[mortal thunder]

are you even a real country this seems like aj oke

[pseudo wing]

https://tenor.com/view/canadians-canada-angelo-fsc-flr-gif-25231575

[mortal thunder]

did they get away with it by being polite and say sorry

[pseudo wing]

nope, big prison time

lmao

[thick edge]

Sorry mate

Thought it was free

Oh your fine

Common mistake

https://tenor.com/view/hearts-of-iron-hearts-of-iron-iv-hoi-hearts-of-iron-4-hoi4-gif-14684883426167911687

[brazen ferry]

They're not Aussies

They'd say 'Sorry, eh?'

[thick edge]

Empty the compartments of your pantaloons

[fathom laurel]

dont you get the ride of the valkyries song with the classic station?

[brazen ferry]

Nah man that's the British

[pseudo wing]

not that i am aware of

[mortal thunder]

when are we getting a port to victoria 3 engine and when will we get a battlefront update of small soldiers firing from trenches and dussins of tanks rolling around

[thick edge]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-sigma-oso-gif-7610478615258254705

I’m thirsty

Be back

[pseudo wing]

the expansion pass is the better discount

than individually

its why it exists

[jaunty yacht]

If I don't want the unit pack is it still worth it?

[solid gyro]

And you don't risk anything because all hoi4 dlc is based

[pseudo wing]

huhh.... I dont think ever but yknow i aint in charge

[solid gyro]

Yes because you get the country pack

[pseudo wing]

its still an overall discount on the Countrypack as well

[barren tusk]

@pseudo wing next year before summer are we expecting to have DLC/expasion?

i don't know how the times works in this game

[solid gyro]

The fact that you have a wife and children shows you're not committed to the hou4 grind

[pseudo wing]

check the scheduled timings of the other dlc's at the end of the DD

there is no concrete date but rather the quarters they should release in

[solid gyro]

It'll probably release around the same time as ToA

[barren tusk]

ToA?

[barren tusk]

i suppose the middle east release on january

so if we get 2 DLC per year

[solid gyro]

Trial of Allegiance

[jaunty yacht]

The DLC's are more expensive this time around, aren't they?

[solid gyro]

Inflation

[pseudo wing]

depends on where you are from, there have been price adjustments in some countries detailed in a post on the forum/steam a while back

[thick edge]

If I get paid on Friday

[safe plover]

what change did the 1.14.9 update do?

[thick edge]

I could afford expansion+gotterdambug

[pseudo wing]

the expansion pass instant unlocks, the song and models

[barren tusk]

it was released on march

so middle east on march?

i don't think so

middle east could be late january or early february

and next expasion DLC video probably May or June

[solid gyro]

Oh yeah can yoy please force the coders to fix the Brazilian and Norweigan unit models 🙏

[barren tusk]

that's my guess

[pseudo wing]

whats wrong with them

[fickle sedge]

It is q1 so first quarter of the year

[solid gyro]

I've put in multiple reports, but basically you don't get access to all of the available models through the division designer

[barren tusk]

january -march

[mortal thunder]

will there be that occult stuff of searching for mythal superweapons or finding the ark of god.
will thule society be a hidden minigame

[solid gyro]

But Chile does, as well as other nations with multiple unique models

[pseudo wing]

@fickle sedge maybe you can take a peek at this at some point?

[mortal thunder]

what exactly is the inner circle and how schizo will be historically accurate

[pseudo wing]

(i saw you here, only reason I pinged you)

[fathom laurel]

the song "Main Theme" from hoi3 sounds alot like ride of the valkyries

[safe plover]

yeah k also the löwe is a super heavy tank, how could u see the model of it bc super heavys are just support companies??

[solid gyro]

Please I love the Brazilians with the Adrian helm 🥺

[barren tusk]

SOOOO we are not going to receive a new DLC/ expasion in 1 year because Q3 is between June-September

[fickle sedge]

I can put it on my todo list but I cannot promise results, as that is one big list

[mortal thunder]

superheavies should mainly do org dmg as it would be demoralizing seeing it rather than it being useful

[solid gyro]

I will sell you my sould

[hearty blade]

too busy on honkai starrail frfr (very valid i dont blame u)

[safe plover]

this just makes the unit model useless since u cant create a super heavy tank division

[thick edge]

Real

[mortal thunder]

dont give pdx any whailing ideas of sexy SS officers in bikinis

[hearty blade]

he is legitimately already on honkai i cant stop it now

too far gone soldier

[solid gyro]

Norway and Argentina also have this same issue, I can try and find the posts I made about it.

Not a big issue, but my favourite part of any dlc are the unit models

[thick edge]

My friend sent me smth like that

[pseudo wing]

Keep an eye out for the DD's, there should be more information regarding it basically Soon™

[thick edge]

1 minute

[hearty blade]

also hi chak

[calm bramble]

we still didn't get a glimpse of the congo and belgium

[fickle sedge]

Hey I'm just out here grinding 🙃

[mortal thunder]

will u expand the support line for prototype units?

[thick edge]

The hoi4 server pfp changed

[pseudo wing]

yes i changed it, made it for the server too

[pseudo wing]

who knows, if we do it'll be in a DD

[fickle sedge]

Put it in the bugs forum and I can find it easily, or if it is already there comment on it and it gets pushed ot hte top

[thick edge]

How much did u pay the graphic designer

[hearty blade]

have fun fr idk what u exactly did to contribute for the dlc but everything looks awesome so thanks for your effort (again idk what u did so i cant really be that specific but have fun on honkai everyone needs a break at one point or another)

[pseudo wing]

i paid myself nothing, im a scammer

[thick edge]

Wild

[solid gyro]

Got it 👍

[hearty blade]

yeah reporting this to HQ

ur done

[thick edge]

Chak might have locked in

[mortal thunder]

can u add hugo boss flair to the uniforms make then sexy

[pseudo wing]

listen, why would I pay me when I can buy bread

I love bread

[hearty blade]

true i love bread too

[thick edge]

I have a picture like that

[outer whale]

@fickle sedge
I am spoiling all achievements here

[mortal thunder]

what dont u have a pic off

[hearty blade]

mmm bread

[outer whale]

Reverse Anchluss

[thick edge]

U want it

[outer whale]

As belguim maximise your infrastructure

[hearty blade]

100%

[thick edge]

Purple pumpkins

[outer whale]

As belguim conquer france and Germany

[hearty blade]

i refuse to believe reverse anschluss wont be a thing

[thick edge]

It better be

IsP is running out of ones to do

[hearty blade]

also hope hungary gets a few new achievements

[outer whale]

As congo conquer belguim

[hearty blade]

and i hope they remove the RNG aspect of it

[thick edge]

Reverse colonization

[outer whale]

As hungary punish the holy roman empire (germany and austria)

Cuz they got conquered by them

[thick edge]

What if Africa colonized Europe

[mortal thunder]

free cb on puppeting yugoslavia in 37 because austria like the beach

[solid gyro]

Done 👍

[outer whale]

As austria
Restore HRE

[foggy vine]

how do i fix hearts of iron 4 frame drops?

[thick edge]

Chak hear me out

[mortal thunder]

austria>hre>romanempire

[small sable]

Hungary should get an achievment for reconquering all their previous lands, like Etelköz (parts of ukraine) levédia (don region) Magna hungarian (somewhere around Kazan) and the ural region

[thick edge]

Add a media channel/funny moments

[small sable]

possibly Mongolia aswell

[outer whale]

Good idea

[hearty blade]

oh yeah that'd be cool

ifw that

[outer whale]

As hungary conquer estonia and finland and urals

[hearty blade]

dunno about that

[thick edge]

As El Salvador, conquer China

[outer whale]

AS AUSTRIA COLONIZE CHINA

[mortal thunder]

as luxemburg anchluss germany

[outer whale]

THERE

[thick edge]

Isn’t there an achievement for naval invading Europe as Mexico

[outer whale]

Cuz they never got colony

[small sable]

Also what if USSR got some sort of an ingame collapse thing, where if germany reaches the AA line either everything until the urals collapses, or everything from like Omsk and then the war would restart after a year or two

[obtuse ingot]

USSR inner Ring

[brazen ferry]

I hope Belgium gets focuses to reform the Kingdom of Burgundy and reclaim its rightful lands in Francia and Germania

[hearty blade]

yeah sunset invasion

[thick edge]

Any part of Europe?

I could join the allies and get Italy

[small sable]

I have a tiny bit of coding experience I might try making a Czechoslovakia mod and some sort of a ussr collapse

[thick edge]

Mexican Italy

[cyan juniper]

burgundy

[obtuse ingot]

If burgundy was a thing, ww1 & ww2 very different

[small sable]

the update was literally made for the KR devs to make a hungary focus tree and TNO devs to finally rework germany the way they want

[hearty blade]

any coastal tile

i think

[small sable]

possibly as a german ally

[thick edge]

Ooooh

[small sable]

instead of vichy france

[hearty blade]

i did it when i did the trotsky mexico achievement

one of my favos

[small sable]

This is a far strech

but I think vichy france will get a small touchup

[solid gyro]

I doubt it

Unless they count it as an ReichsKommisarat

[oblique sage]

WHITE HORSE!!!!

[mortal thunder]

when will pdx fix japans tree

[small sable]

Prediction:

Hungary will get a focus to form an irregular "Huszár" cavalry division with a bunch of extra stats, with maybe some bonuses to cav recon

[solid gyro]

Next major DLC

[mortal thunder]

do a naval rework fix the island hopping in pacific

GIVE ME PATROL BOATS IN INDONESIA

[oblique sage]

no because then they have to add JFK

and we all know how that will go

[small sable]

they would have added man the guns if they did a naval rework

Navy is fine it's simply very annoying to spend years building a navy, garrisoning a coastline or convoy escorting

[fading walrus]

@cyan juniper

this is Burgundy

[oblique sage]

Make land night attack great again

[fading walrus]

not the cringe TNO one

but the Charles the Bold one

[obtuse ingot]

Next Major DLC will be Occupation… featuring Syria/Lebanon/Palestine & Japan with some postwar stuff

[thick edge]

Why not Israel?

[oblique sage]

doubt, luxembourg needs a focus tree before Japan rework

[solid gyro]

Nah Japan and Asia with naval changes

Then a US based DLC with lost war stuff

[fading walrus]

can you stop throwing in your ideas

[solid gyro]

Post*

[obtuse ingot]

That’s part of the mandate of Palestine

[fading walrus]

NONE of the them work with this timeframe

[oblique sage]

you mean the Kingdom of Jerusalem?

[solid gyro]

They'll probably make a light-decolonization and cold war mechanics before e moving to hoi5

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

[fading walrus]

who on earth is going to be king of Jerusalem in 1936

the line ended in Cyprus

in the early 1500s

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_for_Syria_and_the_Lebanon

[fading walrus]

thats a nation

[oblique sage]

im sure that there is some sort of descendant still alive, probably a brit

[tacit sequoia]

question @pseudo wing, if i purchase the expansion pack for new dlc, does it mean i have the DLC but i have to wait till it releases?

[thick edge]

Yes

[mortal thunder]

you can restore byzantine from greece. why not outremmer?

[thick edge]

U own it

[tacit sequoia]

nice.

[pseudo wing]

correct

[thick edge]

But only use after release

[obtuse ingot]

I checked. Nobody’s left

[pseudo wing]

you own it, but it doesnt all release at once

[tacit sequoia]

alright

[fading walrus]

why though

thats one of the cringiest paths in the game

and I like Byzantium

[thick edge]

Could u suggest more formidables

[mortal thunder]

france restoring kingdom of jerusalem under napoleon could have happened

[obtuse ingot]

Mandates during wW2 were full of internal strife & occupation resistance groups… much like Japan was

[ashen oyster]

Will the Netherlands focuses be reworked or no

[mortal thunder]

actually indonesia did see heavy action in ww2 and should be more included

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Japan

[tacit sequoia]

probably next dlc

[obtuse ingot]

The systems would be useful in Nazi occupied France as well… and other administered areas (Raj, etc.)

If North Africa we get occupied Casablanca

[wraith kernel]

NO SAUDI ARABIAA???!!

REEEEEEE

[jovial quest]

So what’s this new dlc about?

Germany overall rework?

[obtuse ingot]

We kinda get it with Iraq

[wraith kernel]

how dare you

im a saudi main and i resent that

[solid gyro]

Correct a german rework with focus trees for austria,belgium,hungary etc

and next year we get a country pack which are iran,raj, iraq and afghanistan

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal_II

[cyan juniper]

one and only saudi player

[solid gyro]

from what i saw in the video and in the screenshots we get some new german infantry models like what the soviets got etc

[wraith kernel]

oman and yemen will be destroyed

[solid gyro]

now i wonder on how the austrian infantry looks like in that era

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hussein_bin_Ali,_King_of_Hejaz

[marsh sparrow]

WHERE IS THE LUXEMBOURG TREE

CHAK

FACE ME YOU COWARD

[obtuse ingot]

His sons Faisal and Abdullah were made rulers of Iraq and Transjordan respectively in 1921.

[obtuse stratus]

I come back and everything is on fire

[pseudo wing]

the same place where you're going

[solid gyro]

Prob will be a hidden tree like iceland or paraguay

[pseudo wing]

Hell

[marsh sparrow]

hell?

[brazen spade]

so i gotta buy ANOTHER germany dlc??

[obtuse stratus]

Chak give me free info

Please

[marsh sparrow]

Damn ok

[obtuse ingot]

As Faisal Ii you could easily have a focus tree to create a pan-Arab state

[pseudo wing]

it is currently 3:02 pm Eastern

that is info

that is free

[obtuse stratus]

About the dlc

[pseudo wing]

for legal purposes this is a joke

[marsh sparrow]

I don’t think he will

[pseudo wing]

it exists

I gotchu

[solid gyro]

also chak question will the ratte also be in game cause i read it somewhere that this thing was twice as big as the maus?

[marsh sparrow]

Well Well well, we all know in reality. Deep down in that little heart of yours, that is what you wish

[pseudo wing]

gonna have to wait and see the DD's

[obtuse stratus]

Dang you're good at this

[cyan juniper]

more than twice bruh

[pseudo wing]

no bc i already live there (Quebec)

[brazen spade]

how does the new germany tree work with waking the tiger??

[cyan juniper]

even seen any drawings

[marsh sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-2049-officer-k-ryan-gosling-edit-sad-gif-5889026127658526482

[obtuse stratus]

Give me info about the new dlc that I don't know yet Chak

[solid gyro]

Nah not really only read that the thing was bigger then the maus

[pseudo wing]

its... about Germany and other countries

im so smart

[marsh sparrow]

It is free so it’s like a base game tree now

[obtuse stratus]

I knew that

[marsh sparrow]

Chak is too smart for you to fool

[brazen spade]

the new dlc is free or waking the tiger is free

[obtuse stratus]

I'm still trying

[marsh sparrow]

Waking the tiger

[tacit sequoia]

is there going to be new portraits?

[marsh sparrow]

Highly likely

Yes

[brazen spade]

no way

[tacit sequoia]

cuz i seen the germany teaser on the expansion page, and the painter has a new portrait

[solid gyro]

He doesnt

[jovial quest]

This is why we don’t need hoi5

[marsh sparrow]

And death or dishonor

And the other one

What’s it called

[solid gyro]

Atleast from the game page it looks like it's the same one

[kindred beacon]

Will Becker commit suicide as he did historically in 1940? Or is there a way to prevent his death

[jovial quest]

They can just make hoi4 better and better

[solid gyro]

Will Germany's flag change or remain the same

[brazen spade]

where my money at paradox

[marsh sparrow]

Remain

[kindred beacon]

In real life he took his own life because he believed he had failed in his work after being criticized by Hitler

[tacit sequoia]

it has more shading + better color from the other one (pls dont ban chak)

[cyan juniper]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ256oHvFBF5ciyCQvJvnITS07VRiyzQ7-GmQ&usqp=CAU

[marsh sparrow]

As far as I can see

[solid gyro]

true and even better next year we get iran,iraq,raj and afghanistan as a bonus

[brazen spade]

i bought waking the tiger like 3 years ago 😭

[marsh sparrow]

Why would chak ban

[solid gyro]

Oh damn I didn't see it uo that close

[tacit sequoia]

cuz its against rules lol

shitler

[kindred beacon]

I wonder how useful building the Ratte actually will be

I have a feeling some of the wonder weapons are more or less a waste of resources

[marsh sparrow]

Not really it’s hoi4 itself

[jovial quest]

Actually there was a plan for a “monster”

[solid gyro]

Alright now i know why that thing never made it on the field to much rescources would of gone to waste

[marsh sparrow]

The trailer was amazing tho

[kindred beacon]

If we're being serious, if the Ratte were actually built it would have been bombed by the Allies

It should probably work like a railway gun

[marsh sparrow]

Yah

[kindred beacon]

but where it can go anywhere on land

[solid gyro]

Same as railway guns

[solid gyro]

Ikr? it was good like really good

[tacit sequoia]

kinda feelin like horthy is getting a portrait rework

[kindred beacon]

railway guns are sometimes useful but they hog up supply so I don't build them often

[marsh sparrow]

Luxembourg bring the only European nation without a focus tree makes me depressed

[kindred beacon]

I hope so his portrait sucks

[tacit sequoia]

though wondering whats going to happen with the little entente nations :p

[solid gyro]

Can't wait for "Wunderwaffe will win the war" acheivement where you need to make the ratte as 80% towards capitulation Germany and beat back the allies

[kindred beacon]

Also I hope Germany will get historical decisions to enforce puppet regimes in Hungary and Romania

[marsh sparrow]

On par with nsb

[kindred beacon]

Maybe Operation Panzerfaust could be a raid

[fluid shadow]

I think ther will probably a national spirit that you can upgrade for the wunderwaffen

[cyan juniper]

when i look at super heavy debuffs it should be -99% on attack for all terrain

[solid gyro]

They already do, I'm assuming it'll be in the focus tree

[kindred beacon]

Which was where the Germans occupied Budapest and took Horthy's son hostage

[tacit sequoia]

hungary's getting a rework... but Czechoslovakia, Romania, Yugoslavia Greece and Albania need smth now... (new dlc moment?)

[kindred beacon]

You can if you do the integrate war economies but their leaders stay in power

[marsh sparrow]

Waiting to see ze neu Kaisar

[kindred beacon]

Yugoslavia got a rework a couple years ago

[solid gyro]

Fr paradox is cooking something good, this dlc will be NSB part 2 but only the german version of it

[kindred beacon]

Romania I agree but their historical content is in a good enough state

[marsh sparrow]

Yah

[tacit sequoia]

it doesnt par up though with modern trees

[kindred beacon]

Agreed but the devs have bigger priorities

[tacit sequoia]

hungary is getting a bigger tree than czechoslovakia now

[kindred beacon]

Fact checked by REAL Hungarian patriots

[tacit sequoia]

wheres the slovak tree 🎮

[kindred beacon]

Also I hope "Greater Hungary" can actually be the pre-1918 borders

[tacit sequoia]

i also hope for a state rework also

[obtuse ingot]

German wundewaffe

[tacit sequoia]

TRUE

LMFAO

[kindred beacon]

they tend to add new states when they add content

[solid gyro]

prob after those two expansions i feel like we get a japanese rework aswell

[tacit sequoia]

im guessing a Japanese USA rework.

[fluid shadow]

TWR right?

[kindred beacon]

Yes

[obtuse ingot]

🤞 we getting jet packs?

[kindred beacon]

I assume Japan might get some extra content related to the Axis rework and Raids

Definitely some special weapons (suicide craft, midget subs)

[solid gyro]

yeah

[kindred beacon]

And almost certainly they will get to do Pearl Harbor

[tacit sequoia]

due to how old that the Japanese one is, but also that the pacific front is kinda sad

[pseudo wing]

who knows

[kindred beacon]

Would be greatly dissapointed if I cannot plan it out as Japan

[kindred beacon]

In Hoi3 the historical path used the German Empire path

[tacit sequoia]

it was the same way sadly

[kindred beacon]

(Hoi has never used the real flag of the Third Reich because it was formerly illegal in Germany, and today it still automatically makes a game 18+)

[solid gyro]

True, so I'm hoping they add a focus allowing Hungary to switch sides and Germany to stop it

[kindred beacon]

Romania already can

[solid gyro]

Imagine we get the older imperial flag like the one we saw in the trailer as that was the military banner of the imperial german army from what i know

Basically scuttle the fleet thing

[kindred beacon]

And yeah I'd imagine Operation Panzerfaust will either be a raid or intelligence op

[obtuse ingot]

Jet packs!

[solid gyro]

Oh yeah I know, I don't know why they dont

[fluid shadow]

what do you think what new reichskomisariats are gonna be added?

[kindred beacon]

They took Horthy's son hostage to force him to resign, and then installed a pro-Nazi puppet government under the Arrow Cross

[solid gyro]

Probably England and Moscow

[solid gyro]

Moskowien,kaukasus etc

[kindred beacon]

Who fun fact are the fascist party under Horthy in the current game build despite him having banned the party

[pseudo wing]

you cannot have anything with swastikas in the server, hethr

this includes video thumbnails

[kindred beacon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Panzerfaust

[solid gyro]

Yeah add that

[tacit sequoia]

RK America (both North and South), RK Africa, RK Asia, RK Oceania

[solid gyro]

I wanna switch Sides as Hungary and take Germany 😎

[solid gyro]

RKs for the whole work

World*

first thing i will do is check my home countries tree out (austria) then germany or belgium

once it gets released

[fluid shadow]

What do you think of congo content?

[obtuse ingot]

Is this better? https://youtu.be/bLyla-hO3xE?si=LIjOoj3e3d4-BZxD

[solid gyro]

I got suprised tbh i thought luxembourg gets added but ig it will be hidden like iceland or paraguay

[solid gyro]

Rubber

[pseudo wing]

i dont see a swastika, so yes

[fluid shadow]

Yeah, probably

[kindred beacon]

hard to play without hands

[tacit sequoia]

damn 💀

[kindred beacon]

btw they mentioned a path where you could get independent and make a congo monarchy

[tacit sequoia]

he brought the congo joke back

[kindred beacon]

would that imply restoring the Kingdom of Kongo?

[fluid shadow]

Might get a belgian govermant in exile tree

[kindred beacon]

Or is this like a rhodesia type situation

[solid gyro]

Wasnt congo a german colony before ww1?

[kindred beacon]

where it's ran by the white minority and they install a king for legitimacy

[obtuse ingot]

It’s a scene from the Rocketeer where they show the hero the Nazi propaganda video using the jet pack as a weapon.

[kindred beacon]

no, it was originally the personal holding of King Leopold II of Belgium

However after it was revealed he had essentially enslaved the entire country international condemnation forced Belgium to nationalize it as a colony

Leopold II is probably one of the most evil people in history

[thick edge]

Wdym u didn’t see one

[solid gyro]

Yeah he did some pretty nasty stuff down there as i heard that he made them lose their hands and all that

[kindred beacon]

Should be noted one of the few good things to come about from colonialism was that in most of Africa, the colonial powers very forcefully put an end to slavery

[thick edge]

Second 9

[kindred beacon]

So they were okay with colonialism but slavery was a step too far

For the international community at the time

[obtuse ingot]

And then Hitler said “ hold mein beer”

[fluid shadow]

If someone did't fufill their rubber quota their hand got chopped of

[pseudo wing]

there is no swastika in the thumbnail, which was the reason i mentioned to heathr not to post certain videos with one in the thumbnail

[fluid shadow]

So yeah, pretty nasty

[thick edge]

Oh

[obtuse ingot]

It was from the 1991 movie the rocketeer

[thick edge]

Much to your surprise, I can read the title.

[fluid shadow]

I don't remember exactly, but didn't they also tease a non fascist/communist dictatorship for germany?

or am I tripping?

[cyan juniper]

correct word is censor

just look at their uniforms

[obtuse ingot]

Which actually was a thing apparently

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Himmelstürmer_Flightpack

[solid gyro]

Got censored but would be cool if the current imp flag gets swapped out with the other one i think it was the imperial german army flag

[fluid shadow]

Also that, but when they talked about the new focus tree for Germany

[solid gyro]

or if you get them both like one for the monarch normal route and the other one for a more agressive path

[fluid shadow]

What could also be cool if the army flag activates if the country is at war

[kindred beacon]

Kaiser and Democracy paths are getting reworked

and there will finally be a communist route

They mentioned a revival of the ideals of the Spartakus movement

[thick edge]

Glorious comrade

More to join us

[kindred beacon]

there is an anti-Soviet route

[solid gyro]

Yeah i mean they did that in irl aswell and not only once but through out history

[thick edge]

Bloody hell

Eradicate them

[kindred beacon]

Hoi4 devs always do this, the commie path has one where it's "we love Comrade Stalin" and the other is "map painting but for the workers"

[harsh hull]

Red Germany path: Another fine addition to my "Oops! All Communism!" preset for game setup

[kindred beacon]

you mean Sportakus

Devs please add him as a hidden leader

[solid gyro]

Now i am wondering if we get the jet fighters we saw in the thumbnail aswell like the Ho229 once

[kindred beacon]

national focus complete: "distribute sports candy" (meth)

National focus completed: "HOGAAAANNNN"

[tacit sequoia]

damn

that eagle

[kindred beacon]

so mods dont get mad

[solid gyro]

Poor luxembourg with only one tile got forgotten once again

[fluid shadow]

Do you know if every althist führer will get their own mini path?

[kindred beacon]

its a few unique focuses for each but you still have access to the main nazi political branch

[fluid shadow]

ah thanks

[kindred beacon]

If you keep Hitler in power you can choose between favoring Hess (althist) or installing Bormann as Party Chancellor

Also if you choose Hess, instead of him flying to Britain on a suicide mission, Bormann will resign his post and become head of the Wilhelm von Wonka schokoladefabrik

[strong sequoia]

Well Faisal was forced upon the British, they actually didn't want him because he hated them after the betrayal in Syria but a coalition between Ottoman/Sharifian Arab officers, Shia Clergy and Baghdadi aristocracy banded together and chose Faisal to be a mediator between them, he had no relations with any Iraqi political faction and he was secular so he was perfect to them and he only accepted to annoy the British and help Iraq get independent as fast as he could in cooperating with other politicians and shared his view even ones who hated him like Yasin Al Hashimi (Iraq's leader in 1936)

[fluid shadow]

Based Faisal?

[kindred beacon]

I assume Iraq will have a pro-British path where in exchange for supporting their interests you can have a Hashemite federation

With Transjordan and potentially Palestine

Maybe Syria if you seize it from Vichy France but not sure

[strong sequoia]

Ghazi hates the British with every inch of his soul, he was closer to the Italians and Germans

[kindred beacon]

The historical route for Iraq is actually that they had a fascist coup in 1940

[strong sequoia]

His cousin not very much

[kindred beacon]

thankfully for the British he died before the war

But then al-Gaylani took over

[fast perch]

not sure what to think of the Ratte being a model in hoi4 now.

since the Ratte was just a drawing that probably never went off the drawing board

[kindred beacon]

So I assume there will be a "stay loyal to Britain" path to make a Hashemite federation, a path under al-Gaylani (historical route) where you can seek Nazi/Italian support to fend off the Brits

I forget if Al Gaylani was pan arabist or just anti British

There will probably be Kurdish separatism and a possible Kurdistan focus tree, would make House of Kurds fun to go for

[strong sequoia]

They mostly killed him by staging the accident, as his doctor says he wasn't allowed to examine him and only British doctors were allowed near Ghazi

[kindred beacon]

Not sure if Egypt will become a tag, they really should but the devs said a long time ago that the reason they aren't is because it bugs out the AI and makes Britain give up Africa

Also would be hard to make historically accurate because technically Egypt itself was neutral in WW2

[fluid shadow]

I still think that wunderwaffen should give you a national spirit that you can improve with new projects

[silk jacinth]

Am excited for Austrian and Belgian focus’s, as well the middle eastern pack

[strong sequoia]

Anti British Nationalist who actually gave all of Iraq's Oil away for Twenty years just for the price of Syria and Kuwait

[kindred beacon]

The Egyptian army was not deployed to the front other than some volunteers

[small sable]

fellas just checked

motorcycles are coming

[kindred beacon]

Yeah I saw

[small sable]

the bicycle battalion evolves

[kindred beacon]

Brb gonna pick up all the cute Hungarian girls on my new ride

[kindred beacon]

inb4 we make ISP do motorcycle only

[small sable]

can't wait to send 20 divisions to the don river to defend hungary (they will be all destroyed after I click the defense button)

[kindred beacon]

better yet we strap artillery to a motorcycle

[small sable]

P1000 Ratte only

[kindred beacon]

there should be a path where Hungary gets claims on Mongolia called "return home"

[small sable]

real

[kindred beacon]

Jokes aside

Some Hungarian nationalists were influenced by Turanism

[small sable]

even if they dont get a focus they should def get an achievment

[small sable]

it could be an interesting subpath

[strong sequoia]

Meanwhile Abdullah was just a defacto thing, he went to Southern Syria (Jordan) fended off the French and set up base and the British just gave him Jordan because he was there already

[kindred beacon]

Turkey already has a Turan tree, which i have a LOT of problems with (namely that historical Kemalists have access to it)

Turan should really only be for the Ottoman path or they should make a second fascist path under Astiz

Kemalists were anti-Turanist and arrested Turanist ideologues, the Ottoman path in game is sparked by reactionary islamist military officers so it makes sense for them.

[fluid shadow]

I hope that the (Possible?) Horthy dynasty path gets some cool naval buffs

[kindred beacon]

Most of the Turkish tree is really innacurate actually

[strong sequoia]

Turks are racist to each other, Turanism would never work

[small sable]

There could be a monarchist path (aka austro hungary) historical horthy path which can either evolve into winning with germany and doing electronic special projects, switching sides succesfully if not or becoming fascist either with a coup or by operation margharete, possibly we could also see a council communist path

[kindred beacon]

Peker is represented as the average Turkish teenage keyboard warrior

When he was basically just a really radical Kemalist that thought democracy was incompatible with kemal's will

[cyan juniper]

?

[kindred beacon]

Wanted to make a "Grand Council of Kemalism" and took inspiration from Mussolini

[small sable]

fascist path could either be Hungarist, giving hungary bonuses to war or be turanist

[kindred beacon]

Despite that he was also a Hellenoturkist

[kindred beacon]

already confirmed on the store page

You can put the Arrow Cross in power

But they're backed by the Nazis so their expansion is the same as Horthy path, pre-1918 borders

[small sable]

Gulyáskommunizmus is hoi4

[kindred beacon]

I think the Democratic path weirdly enough is the most expansionist, they can conquer a Danubian Federation

Or restore "tribal organization" whatevr that means

I assume they conquer the steppes or something

[small sable]

which was an IRL proposal for centuries

[kindred beacon]

Democratic Austria can also do it

[fluid shadow]

Hellenoturkist? Like for the unification of greece and turkey?

[small sable]

Rákóczi first proposed it in the 1700s, then Kossuth in the 1800s then in the interwar era too

[kindred beacon]

not necessarily, more putting away old grudges and recognizing the close ties between the two

The truth is that while Turkey and Greece have fought a lot of wars they also have close economic and cultural ties

Which is something a lot of keyboard warriors from both countries are loathe to admit

[outer whale]

Or south german confederation

[fluid shadow]

Ah, so not kaiserredux schizo level

[kindred beacon]

He wanted to protect Greece during WW2

[outer whale]

Coring switzerland

Bavaria

[kindred beacon]

And the Balkans as a whole from what I know

[cyan juniper]

fascist part is ww1 borders

[small sable]

anyways the new hungary focus tree looks interesting

[kindred beacon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recep_Peker

[small sable]

basically all paths should strive for revision

since it was a given for all

like everyone wanted to regain land

even liberals

[kindred beacon]

Yeah thats a given

Everyone in Hungary agreed Trianon was wrong

And needed to be reversed by military force

[cyan juniper]

tf?

cap

[kindred beacon]

IIRC Peker supported protecting Greece in WW2

And thought Hitler was a threat to Turkey

The game makes him this insane expansionist when in reality he was really just an extremely hardline Kemalist who thought democracy would restore reaction

[small sable]

Hungary has a minimum of 4 monarchist paths

yep

[north hamlet]

Guys stupid question but what is q1 and q3

[fluid shadow]

Anyone any thought on what the Horthy dynasty will actually get to do?

[kindred beacon]

His classification as fascist is correct since he wanted a police state and "Counci of Kemalism"

[small sable]

this is a true monarchist classic

[fluid shadow]

1st and 3th quarter I think

[cyan juniper]

its already on steam page bruh

horthy is just like the old days

[fluid shadow]

I meant it more if they will get some flavour stuff

[small sable]

yeah most likely

Hungary political tree looks decent

[cyan juniper]

what i meant is check steam page and horthy path is fully shown there

[obtuse ingot]

Looks hungry

[fluid shadow]

And some stuff is cut still off

[small sable]

nothing huge but If we get flavour then It will be great

we are yet to see the army or economy tree

[cyan juniper]

no it isnt

monarchy is half shown

[fluid shadow]

The establish a new dynasty one, I thought that that would be Horthy

[kindred beacon]

If I had to make the Turkey tree I would have four political branches

• Ottomans. Reactionary officers take over like currently, you can either restore former Ottoman borders or go for Turanism like Enver Pasha wanted. Possibly there could be another Turan route with Astiz but I'm not sure how to fit him in since he was extremely anti Ottoman and anti Islam
• Democratic opposition - Kemalists are defeated in elections, pro-Allied path and more social conservatism. Less buffs and ethnic tension but also more stability and allied support
• Kemalists are divided into historical path under Inonu or Orbay after Kemal dies, or can radicalize with Peker taking control and forming an alliance with Mussolini and fascist/Metaxist Greece.
• Communist path is good as it is, either they infiltrate the Kemalists and Turkey tries to form a red middle east or pro-Soviet path under Husnu.

[small sable]

one thing it lacks however is a way for Horthy's Hungary to leave the war and a possible way for germany to coup hungary after it

[fluid shadow]

Might just be some decisions and events

[small sable]

true

[fading walrus]

We haven’t seen everything yet

[small sable]

tho it should be a possible focus

[small sable]

true

[cyan juniper]

guys check austria's danube path

will you form eu and maybe core with balkans + russia + germany?

[small sable]

now thats powerful

also hungary can retvrn to the steppe

can't wait to core Ukraine, southern russia and kazakhstan, maybe even mongolia

[cyan juniper]

it is not fully shown unfortunately

i seems like they dont get cores

[craggy nexus]

Going to be very curious how Communist Germany works.

[small sable]

germany seems interesting

[cyan juniper]

spartakusbund larp

[small sable]

you can either do a fast buildup or a slower more stable one

[clear radish]

I am VERY curious about how the superweapons are going to work, very curious

Like, from what I understand you need a special building for them ala nuclear reactors

[small sable]

I'd like to see a mechanic for germany where you can enter the war weaker but your industry will be stronger and youll have more resources or build up faster but you have to conquer to keep it from collapsing

[clear radish]

But then how do you pick which one to make??

[fluid shadow]

I hope there are sióme mechanics for barbarossa, like war momentum, giving buffs and debuffs

[barren tusk]

And Kurdistan release?

[kindred beacon]

I imagine kurdistan will get content w iraq

especially since they have an achievement

[barren tusk]

Technically part of Iran is Kurdistan stolen land

Free Kurdistan byw

[craggy nexus]

ideally Germany should probably have a looting economy; you get buffs for invading countries that fade unless you keep invading

[north hamlet]

ty

[fluid shadow]

Like I said earlier, I could imagine them being a national spirit you could buff with for exaple the Ratte giving some super heavy buffs

[craggy nexus]

Stability/economy/war support buffs, to be clear

[fluid shadow]

So the historical way their economy worked?

[clear radish]

Eh, I think maybe making one giga division would be better. Like, for the Ratte for example

[craggy nexus]

Exactly

[clear radish]

Its just one ultra div that you can't make extra of

[stoic hemlock]

you can play better turkey mod

[clear radish]

Is SUPER slow

Etc

[fluid shadow]

We already kind of have that, with the MEFO bills, but I agree that it could get fleshed out.

[craggy nexus]

I think that's a little too close to simulating atrocity (a lot of those were stolen from targeted minority groups) for Paradox's taste, but also it was a key part of the war for Germany and why the Nazis were able to maintain power

[small sable]

1. facilities have an on map location
2. berlin province is bigger
3. you can lose facilities/have to build them

[kindred beacon]

there could be a war exhaustion feature

War support already simulates that

[thick edge]

East West Berlin province

[kindred beacon]

But the German economic tree has two paths

[thick edge]

Would buy ngl

[kindred beacon]

one where you prioritize economic stability and rearmament and the other rapid industrialization and war economy (historical)

[small sable]

you could instead choose a slow buildup where you enter significanly weaker but wont get debuffs from your economy slowly breaking down

[kindred beacon]

So it's possible that each comes with some advantages and consequences

[small sable]

true

there could be an event explaining this possibly

[kindred beacon]

The left branch is weaker in terms of factories but leaves you with powerful buffs to industrial techs, efficiency, and trade factor

[fluid shadow]

And if you strengthen Speer you can do some ecenomic stuff

[kindred beacon]

Speer was actually on the right branch

[fervent prairie]

My main issue with Austria's AH focus tree is that you have to choose between coring Bohemia or Hungary. Like why not allow me to core both? Austria is already weak as is

[small sable]

oh yeah and another thing

while germany is rearming, countries like sweden or hungary could get bonuses to civs and debuffs to mils to simulate germans buying stuff

[fluid shadow]

In the new inner circle minigame

[kindred beacon]

He was the armament minister and designed the system of looting factories and forcibly hiring workers from occupied territory

TNO has poisoned hoi4 players into thinking Speer was a "moderate", Also, Speer himself since he was crafty enough to avoid the gallows after WW2 and then wrote a book explaining why everything bad the Nazis did wasn't his fault

[small sable]

hungary will def be more worth it after this

they are getting one new state minimum if not more, + you can let them conquer lands for even more

[kindred beacon]

Speer was a grade A SOB and should have been hanged after the war

[hollow idol]

Just play R56 after the update

[fervent prairie]

This is from Austria's focus tree

[kindred beacon]

you might get the other one as a core later

[small sable]

yeah, integrating hungary will be more worth it

[kindred beacon]

alternatively it could be because Bohemia was historically very loyal to Austria, but favoring them means Hungary doesn't get more power

Historically, the Austro Hungarian state was weakened not so much by the minorities but by the Hungarians

[small sable]

tbh I wish the focus trees had more custom icons...

[kindred beacon]

They hated being part of the Empire and refused to implement reforms like Austria did that gave ethnic minorities like Czechs, Italians, Jews, etc. rights

[fervent prairie]

I have played that one. I don't like having to have Hungary as a puppet If I don't want to waste mannpower on conquering them

[small sable]

I hope they will get more custom ones

[stark tangle]

why shadow Adolf?

[fluid shadow]

Agree, the only thing they did right was with destroing the prison where he resided after he died to avoid it becoming a place for pilgramige for neo-nazis

[fervent prairie]

Yeah, but I want to core both as you start of weaker if you choose to play as Austria.

[kindred beacon]

because either

1. You're German
2. You're not German and accidentally disabled the Historical German Portraits "DLC"

[bright plume]

So it doesn't trigger insta-removal filters.

[stark tangle]

no, that's from Steam lol

[fluid shadow]

here in germany the goverment is very sensitive with this stuff

[kindred beacon]

um, Hitler is only censored in the German release

They also censor other historical Nazi leaders and the SS symbol on uniforms

[fervent prairie]

I don't see any sign of it in the focus tree, but you could be correct

[stark tangle]

must be a German screeny then

[small sable]

I actually like it, more manpower from your puppet and you dont have to invite them in, shortening your border to 6 tiles (3 of which are easy to hold mountains)

[bright plume]

Just a best practice. Not a big deal lol.

[kindred beacon]

If you're in any other country the only censorship is they don't show the swastika

[river imp]

36 bucks a bit expensive

[kindred beacon]

it's for 2 DLCS

[small sable]

thats for the entire expansion

[kindred beacon]

one coming out next month and another early next year

you can buy them separately but there's really no point

[river imp]

should i get it now?

[stark tangle]

true enough, as I said, the screenshot in question, found on Steam for the DLC, must be a German one

[small sable]

most likely the new dlc will cost 20-25 dollars

[kindred beacon]

If you get the pass it's 20% cheaper

[small sable]

exactly

[kindred beacon]

the prices are on the forum

[bright plume]

I don't think they care, sensor all of it, it's a store page, is a censored Hitler in aa screenie gonna stop someone from buying

[small sable]

lemme check

[fading walrus]

Congo is in the DLC because it has alot Uranium

[kindred beacon]

it's not to stop people buying

[fading walrus]

I looked it up

[river imp]

Should i buy the pack now?

[fervent prairie]

True but there are so many other things that can happen that messes up the campaign. Like demand submission focuses from other nations. Lost a campaign to that

[kindred beacon]

it's because when hoi4 first came out video games were not considered art by Germany and so could not legally contain nazi symbols in German releases

[fading walrus]

if you want

[fervent prairie]

You also don't get as much out of them

[kindred beacon]

Germany also has a lot of other weird rules with video games, German releases of most 18+ rated games have to remove blood, gore, and explicit references to secks and drug use I think

(why can I not say s-x lol)

[lunar folio]

Ain’t no way we got a Congolese focus tree before GTA VI

[fading walrus]

we did probably because of all the Uranium they have

[fervent prairie]

You can't even swear on here

[kindred beacon]

Thankfully in recent years the German government has loosened these rules

But, all the stuff I mentioned above means it is strictly illegal to sell it to minors there

[lunar folio]

I’m just worried about what they’re gonna do after independence
Like… we’re free… what are they gonna do now

Like what can the Congo do after that

[kindred beacon]

In the US at least, if a game is rated M (17+), there is no legal requirement to not sell it to under 17s, but most stores will not out of principle

[fervent prairie]

I hope they change it so you can core Bohemia and Hungary instead of having to choose. Austria is weak as is

[kindred beacon]

But there is nothing preventing a parent from buying it for their child

[fluid shadow]

I think there might be a belgian govermernt in exile path

[kindred beacon]

Germans are much stricter, parents can get prosecuted if they do that

[lunar folio]

There is

[fervent prairie]

There is. It was explained in their video

[lunar folio]

But the independent Congo route is what I’m cautiously optimistic about

[fluid shadow]

Damm, my memory is worse than what I remember

[kindred beacon]

But hey, they can also buy beer at 16 and I can't get it in the US for another 8 months (well, not legally. Everyone does it anyway)

[fluid shadow]

14 with parental supervision

[solid gyro]

How would it even work if it doesn’t start off as independent

[kindred beacon]

hopefully we will get a Dutch East Indies tree one day

[solid gyro]

Or will it be puppet in the update

[kindred beacon]

maybe with a Japan/Asia expansion

[polar jasper]

Had some flashbacks to the Man the Guns DLC with the addition of a Belgium focus tree

[lunar folio]

I mean like, fully independent

[kindred beacon]

There is already a path for Netherlands to evacuate to the Indies

But that just annexes the DEI

[stark tangle]

that would be excellent

[lunar folio]

It will probably be that, yes

[kindred beacon]

Kaiserreich figured out how to do it years ago

[fervent prairie]

I don't necessearly care about them. Time would be better spent on hoi5 or China and Japan

[solid gyro]

Britain and Ireland rework when

[polar jasper]

Bitt3rsteel probably happy about Belgian content

[solid gyro]

And America

[polar jasper]

Man the Guns for 2 out of the 3

[solid gyro]

Ireland being neglected I’m still salty

[fading walrus]

so it can be hoi4 in 2016 on release?

[solid gyro]

Focus tree could be so fun with ira and Celtic path

[fluid shadow]

China rework would be so fire (Coming from the second greatest china enjoyer from germany)

[polar jasper]

No WTT China was funny to play

[solid gyro]

Hot take but I’m happy Luxembourg isn’t getting a tree

[fading walrus]

even if Hoi5 releases its gonna take years to catch up to the level of Hoi4

[fervent prairie]

I'm pretty sure they will have finished content for the most important countries. Like they hopefully will do for EU5

[polar jasper]

You should have seen OG Japan focus tree in hoi4

[solid gyro]

Hungary and Austria seem fun though

[polar jasper]

Hopefully the finished content would be more finished than that

[small sable]

My country will finally have a proper focus tree thank god

before that the communist path was widely renowned as the worst path in the entire game

[solid gyro]

Hungary had the worst focus in the game

Austria Hungary was completely luck based

[polar jasper]

Independent New Zealand:

It is 1 focus that makes you independent and democratic

[fervent prairie]

True, but it would most likely have a much better game engine, take way longer to slow down and allow for much more customization of border or alternate history. That's what they would need to achieve to ever rightfully justify making it

[polar jasper]

That is it

[small sable]

better than hungary communist path

[fluid shadow]

I'm pretty sure a lot of DLC content was already finished, but they ripped it away so that they could sell it later on

[polar jasper]

Doubt

[small sable]

it at least won't kill you

[polar jasper]

It is spectator mode

Fair

[small sable]

you can build the bob semple tank in peace ig

this

PARADOX

[fluid shadow]

kid named old italy focus tree

[small sable]

ADD BOB SEMPLE SECRET PROJECT

[small sable]

old Poland tree:

[polar jasper]

New DLC we gotta make the Ratte tank variant of the Bob Semple

[fluid shadow]

bob semple wunderwaffe

[polar jasper]

Giga-Bob

1000 machine guns

[solid gyro]

Gulyas communism

[polar jasper]

2 km/h max speed

[small sable]

also a secret mission where you erase new zealand from all maps and make it so you literally can't interact

[small sable]

Gulyáskommunizmus no way

[indigo kite]

"kill horthy" "join comintern"

[solid gyro]

Trianon remilitarisation seems fun too

[fervent prairie]

No one will ever go with the Comintern. I can tell that much. Lack of territorial gain

[fluid shadow]

that you can raid, so that every nation can get it (for balancing purpose, so that new zeeland isn't to overpowered