latest-updates

[cosmic falcon]

I hope we get a Germany and Japan rework as well as content for Belgium, Austira, Ireland, Luxembourg, Albania, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines.

[rugged gazelle]

Something minimal just to remove non aligned and split Democratic in conservative and liberal/socialist:

1. Fascism
2. Communism
3. Conservatorism (Democratic)
4. Liberalism/socialdemocratism (Democratic)
5. Authoritarianism/Monarchism
6. Anarchism

Just 2 ideology

And maybe generalize the parliament mechanic they added to Usa with Man the Guns

Government coalitions ecc

[solid gyro]

Dms

1933 start would be cool

Dms

[rugged gazelle]

👍

[rugged gazelle]

If nazionalsocialism don't go in power the threat would be the Urss

[solid gyro]

I sent u message

[solid gyro]

Tbh i dont think we get a 1933 start but with the idelogys maybe

[solid gyro]

Not really, the USSR was in Shambles, it likely would've been a world without a war

[rugged gazelle]

Maybe Germany may fall in civil war

However Japan was still there

[solid gyro]

If the funny mustache man didnt come to power germany would still fail as a democratic republic they had too many internal problems tbh

[solid gyro]

Japan wouldn't have ever attacked because powers like England and the US could focus their might on them

[solid gyro]

Not really, it almost made it and by the time Mustached man came it was recovering.

In reality it was Mussolini in Italy, they system was in a crisis and would've weathered it, but a strongman came along and took over

[solid gyro]

True, But we cant forget they still had many left and right movements at the time so it aint to far fetched tbh but those movements would be destroyed with time

[solid gyro]

Yeah

[calm bramble]

hear me out

so since mr.h practically secured his grip on germany by 1936

what if instead of making a west east split of a civil war

we instead get a weaker uprising supported by poland, czechoslovakia and france

and also, similar to kaiserredux' roten morgen, there should be something similar to an event chain making the nsdap party extremely unpopular

or like the mysterious death of the austrian and

like in tno there could just be a power struggle within the party that collapses germany

[solid gyro]

Yeye, but like Mussolini, Hitler was basically just chancellor because of his strong anti-communism, a stronger democratic coalition would've beaten him

[solid gyro]

True

[calm bramble]

I also remember of a mod that changed august von mackensen as the leader of the opposition to some other general but I forgot his name

[eager prawn]

@calm bramble thats Kurt von Hammerstein

[calm bramble]

thanks

so yeah he could be a way more realistic starting leader of the german opposition

[tacit sequoia]

@pseudo wing any news on DLC stuff?

[jolly bluff]

My ass got tricked by the #hearts-of-iron-news ping once again.

[tacit sequoia]

didnt we all? lol

[fresh cedar]

Discounts only work if you don’t own everything 😔

[pseudo wing]

Nothing on my end yet, hopefully soon though!

[pseudo wing]

just purchase my time instead, Joe

400 million dollars a minute

[tacit sequoia]

agreed!

[jovial furnace]

what is the most recommended dlc to buy? (i only have la resistance)

[jovial furnace]

so apart from that

[spring rose]

No Step Back

[jovial furnace]

mhm

anything else to recommend? maybe i will buy 2

[spring rose]

perhaps by blood alone

although most people dont like it

[fresh cedar]

Few dollars out of my price range I’m afraid

I liked By Blood Alone but there are better ones out there tbh

[jovial furnace]

yeah.. i will watch some videos about it but thanks for the tips

[fresh cedar]

No Step Back 100% and maybe La Resistance

[jovial furnace]

yup i got la resistance already

[pseudo wing]

NSB is good, and AAT as well, but AAT is more expensive since it is more recent

but its up to you what you think is of more value, each main DLC has something nice to offer

[native nexus]

In iran summer ends in 27 days 🗣️🔥

[tired acorn]

Man the guns is my favourite DLC just because of the navy stuff

[fresh cedar]

Man the Guns is essential imo

[outer whale]

Well

You know when generals arrange for coup
They prefer to choose a leader among themself that has a audience towards to people
They are mostly symbolic

I see no problem
Mackensen being the leader of it

Symbolically

[molten vault]

They need to stop with the announcement ping jumpscares

[outer whale]

If it takes too much time
Can we expect that it's something big as AAT or NSB

Is it a possibility

[pseudo wing]

I don't know, and even if I did I wouldn't be able to comment

Until we know more, I will continue to support the community events and other news that I can share

[opal hill]

This dlc better be the best one they ever put out

[outer whale]

whats ur expectations then

i guess no one asked you

like everyone expects something

what do u expect

[pseudo wing]

I mean, I work for Paradox so I already told them my expectations haha

I'm just hoping people will like it

my job is to help out the community, so I want everyone to be as happy as they can be 🙂

[outer whale]

Ohh

[molten vault]

Paradox better cook with this one

[lone igloo]

You can start with an anti cheat

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-141999319614473134

[jolly bluff]

I don’t think Paradox will disappoint, their reworks for both the Soviet Union and Italy were absolutely goated. That means they’ve already got a lot to work off of when it comes to Germany’s rework.

[hexed mango]

However the italian dlc as a whole was kind of disappointing, it only had a total of 3 focuses of which only italian one was goated, the other 2 were kind of irrelevant unfortunately

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, I definitely think there was room for improvement (maybe a minor Albanian tree along with it) but I still think Paradox cooked with the Italian tree.

I mean Italy’s previous focus tree was less exciting than the literal generic tree.

[dense gale]

Stop being mean jibril 😭

[hollow coral]

hopefully germany will be as fleshed out as italy

[full ermine]

i guess German , Austria, Belgium trees?

focused on West Europe probably

i expect Luxembourg to have a minor tree, if Belgium tree is a thing?

[rugged gazelle]

In my opinion they'll do like as they did for both Poland and Finland; historic german focuses will be free, maybe like they already did with DoD rework of Yugoslavia and Romania they'll do the same with czechoslovakia and Hungary

[jolly bluff]

I don't think the alt-history paths will be locked behind a paywall for Germany. Paradox has already made people pay for them with Waking the Tiger.

[jovial furnace]

When does the sale end?

[rugged gazelle]

They'll surprise me if full german rework will be free

[formal minnow]

is this the last discount of the year??

or there gonna be another

[trim quartz]

There will be more sales throughout the year. Probably not for a while though

[hexed mango]

Maybe we will get one monarchist and one democratic branches for free

And the alt fash and the communist paths will be locked

[eager prawn]

Thanks for your work m8!
I hope this DLC will be a real good one!

[grim dust]

i saw someone said that the whole mussolini path in italy feels railroaded because of the missions

[jolly bluff]

Eh, Idk how to feel about it as I don't play Italy as much but yeah it can be annoying. Especially when you lose one tile in the middle of nowhere, Asia.

[grim dust]

true

[grim dust]

honestly it really should be based on surrender limit rather than territory lost

and i really dislike the regno de sud thinf

[jolly bluff]

Same

[grim dust]

it should be the cln

not the monarchy

or atleast a coalition

[jolly bluff]

I think Italy should just leave the Axis once Mussolini is ousted.

Germany will then get some decisions and an operation to get Mussolini out of arrest and invade similar to Case Anton.

[grim dust]

historically it was a puppet of germany after the civilwar happened

yeah

[jolly bluff]

Then Germany will get the puppet on the RSI and the CLN should also have its own focus tree.

[jovial bison]

that’s be nice tbh, Italy gets into civil war and there should be a decision to puppet Italy and occupy it

[grim dust]

true

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, having a proper Operation Axis would be nice.

[grim dust]

btw

they REALLY needs to rework the vichy and

free france focus tree

you do nothing in both of them

[jolly bluff]

True, not to mention Free France's capital being in New Caledonia.

Historically De Gaulle's Free French government in-exile was established in Britain.

[hexed mango]

Yo guys

Dev diary tomorrow

[grim dust]

well

hoi4 cant reallt represent that

bcz of how in exile government work

[jolly bluff]

Yeah it could be a bit difficult.

But I'd still like to see it implemented better.

Both Free and Vichy France are extremely broken

Your focus tree gets reset once you end both focus trees.

[grim dust]

thats crazy

[jolly bluff]

Nah nah wait

[grim dust]

in exile government mechanic are pretty shitty too

you gotta rely on the freaking ai to do stuff

😭

if you get exiled

[jolly bluff]

I meant that the regular French focus tree is completely reset with all your progress being gone once you unlock it as both Vichy and Free France.

[grim dust]

oh

thats still shit

@jolly bluff like also they need to make a scripted peace deal with the soviets as germany i think

completely annexing soviet union is very unrealistic

or setting up a big reichskommisairat

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, you should get the option to go ahead and do so if you want to. But you should also get the option to only occupy territory up until the AA Line.

[grim dust]

yep

and er

i just hate how in the balkans the ai neevr setup croatia serbia puppets historically

well sometimes the italian ai sets up montenegro

puppet state which is historical

[jolly bluff]

Yeah that needs to be reworked.

Yugoslavia as a whole really.

[grim dust]

yeah

[jolly bluff]

Maybe a power balance mechanic between the Chetniks and the Partisans.

That way there can actually be a communist Yugo after the war.

[grim dust]

that will be good

yeah a chetnik yugoslavia as an althist path will be cool and interesting

also have you ever realized that hungary always get west banat

[jolly bluff]

Yeah. Overall the Balkans are pretty outdated and should get an update.

[grim dust]

for no reason

true

[jolly bluff]

Hell I'd really like to see Romania also get Transnistria if Barbarossa succeeds and for there to be accurate RK borders.

[grim dust]

well hungary only got northern translyvania historically

oh

tranitria?

[hexed mango]

Yugoslavia needs chetnik path that is a resistance pat that works similar to francoist path, unaligned/fascist with the option to either go for the allies or the axis

Partisan resistance path

ZBOR path

Communist non-resistance path

Stojadinovic path that is intertwined with historical and monarchist paths

[grim dust]

true

[modern crest]

tranitria

💀

[viral cloud]

Brittany needs a focus tree🙏🙏

[obtuse ingot]

monarchist Jerusalem…
Jewish Bohemia
1910 start date (folding the Great War into base game)

[solid gyro]

I dont think that we will get a 1910 start date as this is more the thing of the vicky series but the two things above could be but i am not sure

in a focus tree for example

but ig we will see

[obtuse ingot]

Jewish Bohemian revenge tour against Germany…

And monarchist Jerusalem b/c presidents & prime ministers don’t seem to work

[polar jasper]

World War 1 cannot be well represented in a World War 2 game. Also the game would be awful in the interwar period

Let it stay a mod or have another game do it

[hexed mango]

Ppl rly want to play a war game in which the frontlines don't move

A ww1 map game is simply not fun

Ww1 is interesting either on a political level or a micro level

Not in a grand strategy type macro level

[polar jasper]

This is why the Great War Redux isn't liked by many

"The frontlines don't move!"

No crap, Sherlock. That is WW1

[hexed mango]

Yes, but for some reason everyone just wants ww1 hoi4 game or focus branches that simply restore every country in europe to their ww1 status before the war even starts

Hoi4 mechanics are NOT made for a ww1 style game

[indigo kite]

ukraine and belarus need focus trees for whenever they get released

[fresh cedar]

Million other countries need them first

[solid gyro]

Fr like the two sicilies, sardinia or like for some african nations which are releaseable

Like nigeria etc

[fresh cedar]

Would rather the Reichkommissariats get them

If Belarus was to do one

[fading walrus]

Play Kaiserredux for Ukraine and Belarus

[outer whale]

There's many ways to bypass that

Like man It's pretty hella fun when I played it with my friend as central powers

Anthilating Russia etc

[outer whale]

How about

1933

[polar jasper]

Then you got to find a way to slow down the build up. Current 1933 start date mods have the AI and players get 3 more years to pump out divisions and build up their eco

[outer whale]

Yes

[little hedge]

any ideas when the dlc is releasing

[mental onyx]

this year for sure

true question when they are gonna start talking about it

we only have a vague teaser to work with

[tacit sequoia]

Id bet September is when we’ll get something

[trim quartz]

1st of September I bet

[trim quartz]

A 1933 start date would be awesome, because you could stay democratic and if Hitler tries to take power, you could restore the monarchy like they tried to do irl

[mental onyx]

That means more focuses though

I don't know if paradox is willing to add more focuses to every country with a focus tree

a dlc maybe

[full ermine]

Latin Americas, Portugal, and Switzerland were less imporant than these two tbh

even 🇹🇷 tbf but i liked that dlc

they should focus on finishing with the rest of Europe, some countries have abysmal or non existent focus tree (like 🇧🇪 , 🇦🇹 and so on so forth)

then they can focus on other parts of the world

🇦🇿 🇦🇲 🇬🇪 Caucasus has potential to be a banger expansion/flavour pack tbh

(inb4 bUt tHey aRe Not rEleasEabLe copers incoming)

[solid gyro]

Might As Well Add Kurds

[hexed mango]

Dev diary today

[hexed mango]

(Real)

[calm bramble]

at this point just make a focus tree for every single german region

every single italian region

every single french region

galicia, catalonia

every single american state

every single british releasable

and so on

[fresh cedar]

In terms of it being a WORLD WAR game, no they weren’t less important lol. But for the European War Game that many think it is I would agree.

[full ermine]

you have a weird view of what is considered World War

for example each Soviet country solo contributed to this war more than the aforementioned countries

i don't mind who gets what focus tree first as long as worthwhile content is there

but to say that Latin America contributed to this war more than, let's say for example, Azerbaijan is utterly ridiculous

[calm bramble]

Moscow contributed a lot

Maybe a moscow releasable should be added

With a focus tree

XD

[fresh cedar]

Brazil did contribute more than Switzerland. Not only in Europe but also as limiting fascist expansion in Latin America. While there wasn’t war in South America, there was large scale ideological conflicts going on. And yes I’d rather see the country of 40 million get a focus tree than the one of 2 mil.

But in terms of North African/Pacific content, the game is severely lacking

Even though both determined the UK’s supply and Allies ability to open western fronts on the Axis

[full ermine]

i actually agree with you, in terms of Brazil, they get a pass

[full ermine]

in your head it sounded way better, mate :/

[calm bramble]

True

[fresh cedar]

The way I see the other 4 countries, they are the nations Brazil would’ve worked against in stopping the spread of Fascism in South America. So completely makes sense they get content. Historically were non factors but could’ve easily been

Like I think Ukraine/Belarus would be interesting. Though would like to see Austria/Belgium first

[full ermine]

like i said, i am not actually arguing who gets content first

still it doesn't mean that it's not weird that Switzerland gets focus sooner than frickin Austria or Belgium

like this server is obsessed with post-Soviet states not having focus tree for some ridiculous reason

ofc its for the future ya doofuses

logic of "not available at 1936 = not gonna happen" is abysmal and moronic

[fading walrus]

We got a date now

Im gonna put it my calendar

[pseudo wing]

I knew things

I'm glad we can put out an update for y'all now though

[fading walrus]

Take your time with it, I dont want it to be a let down on release

[dull minnow]

FINALLY SOME NEWS, THANK YOU DEVS

[amber jacinth]

they made an update announcement for their update announcement

[outer whale]

octeber 3rd

damn

[dull minnow]

Still better than nothing

[golden mist]

So we would get a proper trailer sometime between today and October 3rd, right chat?

[graceful dagger]

We dont want you to sit and wait without any clue of when things will happen.

[fresh cedar]

I think the only reason many releasesbles don’t is because the game is really focused on interwar/WW2. Post war isn’t as big of a focus but I think they said they consider doing more post war content

[jolly bluff]

Ay, I think we can all appreciate some nice transparency here and there.

[graceful dagger]

So we decided to do a development update. 🙂

[pseudo wing]

Its more to let you all know we're doing things a bit different this time around, but also as an update as Katten said

[golden mist]

Also it’s good that the devs have done this

[outer whale]

can we have good expectations

🙏

[fading walrus]

I have a gut feeling that if this is going to about Germany that their focus tree is going to be on the same scale as NSB USSR

[graceful dagger]

Il say this, personally I really enjoy playing what we are working on.

[fresh cedar]

Can I finally wipe out Tahiti with Nuclear Mirvs?

[outer whale]

yesss

[outer whale]

do you guys get help from kaiserreich and rt56 devs

generally

cuz ur team is small compared to other games on paradox

[jolly bluff]

I’ve said this many times, I don’t think Paradox will disappoint. They cooked so well with the Soviet Union in NSB and Italy in BBA.

They have a lot to work off of.

[obtuse ingot]

Could be both… they’re fairly close

[graceful dagger]

There are developers from those teams in our Closed Beta program

[outer whale]

ohhh

[graceful dagger]

I wouldnt say that

Its roughly the same size as the other GSGs

[outer whale]

nice that modder devs and paradox devs working together tho

[fading walrus]

I just wanna see the potential overhauled Monarchist Germany path

[outer whale]

teamwork

[graceful dagger]

😅 "size also doesnt mean better game", I have seen games at other companies with hundreds of developers that just doesnt work

[outer whale]

i see

[obtuse ingot]

Ww1-Interwar-ww2 would be 🔥

[graceful dagger]

We do have active collaborations with creators, modders and community leaders to try and make the best content possible

[outer whale]

katten already said they dont plan adding ww1

[dull minnow]

"Cough" Microsoft "Cough"

[outer whale]

at reddit

[jolly bluff]

Too many cooks spoil the bread or something like that is a saying that I highly agree with. BF2042 is a game that comes to mind when it comes to way too many dev teams that have no idea about what the other is working on.

[graceful dagger]

Correct, WW1 will not be added into HOI4 as its a WW2 centric game and honestly it just would be a completely different game to do it right

[obtuse ingot]

Ww2 is so intrinsically connected to the result of ww1… it’s perfectly reasonable to tie them together

[outer whale]

what do u guys think about idea of 1933 as start date

well ik as a modder It'll take a lot off work focus trees mechanics tech trees

[graceful dagger]

I agree with history, but the wars played out very differently at every level, so with game mechanics, you kinda need two sets that then intertwine somehow

😅 Im not a developer so cant give you a super answer on the difficulty, but I think personally its better to have something focused and good than too wide and worse

[outer whale]

i see

[obtuse ingot]

Maybe hoi5

[outer whale]

if we get something like hoi5 in future i'd expect this lol

tho katten said they dont see a reason to make hoi5

at reddit

[jolly bluff]

Good point, this is why the original Great War mod failed imo. It was basically just a WWII game with a WWI map on it. The Great War Redux did a much better job with that as they modified combat to make it much more like a proper WWI game.

[outer whale]

at least yet

[graceful dagger]

Didnt say I dont see a reason. What I said is that I dont think HOi4 is at the end of its life cycle, it still has many years left to give

[outer whale]

oh i see

[graceful dagger]

We made 4, we will eventually make a 5th 😅, but we dont make sequels like call of duty or fifa (no hate to them, that models works for them)

[outer whale]

also katten plz ask to team to consider swinceball or bittersteel to do the beta play through of the new dlc
I think you guys did it with bittersteel

[dull minnow]

Yeah, and besides the community won't let the game die until tanna tuva has an official focus tree

[jolly bluff]

This makes me happy, I’m hoping to see HOI4 as fleshed out as it possibly can be before the end of its lifetime.

[outer whale]

or other youtubers

[jolly bluff]

We need that OP Tannu Tuva focus tree.

[graceful dagger]

Cant comment who gets access but

https://tenor.com/view/wink-eye-wink-gif-12352742718877841322

[outer whale]

YESS

[pseudo wing]

its me, I get access

I have no idea what im doing

what's infantry

[obtuse ingot]

Spirit of War: 1610-1660, 1776-1820, 1910-1960

Odd that wars seem to run a good 50 years or so

[outer whale]

random people walking

saying yes sir

on it sir

[dull minnow]

I believe it is a type of dessert

[outer whale]

chargee

[pseudo wing]

nuh uh, can't convince me its anything other than a fashion contest

[solid gyro]

What significant ww2 events a happened in December and January

Wait

December 16th dlc is my guess

[dull minnow]

What happened on december 16th?

[obtuse ingot]

Tannu Tuva what about JAO?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

[solid gyro]

Battle of Bulge

[dull minnow]

I feel like before that we should get an op Israel focus tree that gives it cores on all of germany and spain

[fresh cedar]

I really hope the French Union gets reworked eventually. It’s basically useless right now

[full ermine]

to be releasable doesn't not mean its focuses HAS to be post-war

in example of core Soviet republics there is way big potential for ideologies of any kind

[solid gyro]

"Unit the Diaspora" gains cores on all of Europe and America

[fresh cedar]

Do you know if France will get similar war effort updates to what Spain got? The French Union in particular is terrible

[outer whale]

funfact at october 3rd allied powers break through the the German forces holding the Siegfried Line.

[tired acorn]

If this DLC is gonna be so big , is it gonna cost more than 20 bucks?

[full ermine]

people keep forgetting that all 15 republics (except Baltics) were independent in 1918-1920/1922 interwar period

[outer whale]

how much is the NSB

and AAT

[solid gyro]

100$

[graceful dagger]

No, I dont. Maybe in the future we will do some things with france in a war effort update? But no promises

[fresh cedar]

Thanks, appreciate it. Loved the Spanish Empire focus to core its former colonial empire. Hoping for something similar for other polities.

[full ermine]

how many countries (no need to name) will get new/updated focus trees

or still a secret till October 🤫

[solid gyro]

It's a crime that Ecuador didn't get a focus

[full ermine]

for its price, Trial of Allegiance needed to have focuses for all of South America to be fair

[dull minnow]

I feel like they could maybe add a mechanic where the less resistance and more compliance the colonies have, the more likely it is that they accept, but to balance it they should make it harder to gain compliance for france lower the base compliance on some colonies like indochina and syria

[outer whale]

is there a reason why monarchist germany can't do trade influence with netherlands?

did you guys forgot it or

left it like that

[graceful dagger]

Itl blow your mind

Its more than 1

[dull minnow]

And venezuela

[graceful dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[outer whale]

damnn

[graceful dagger]

Its tied to facist, democratic or neutral path in the dutch tree

[outer whale]

i see

[solid gyro]

Not really? It was 5 more than BoB and tbh the Trees were much better

[pseudo wing]

damn man, didn't know we were leaking things smh

[outer whale]

cuz we cant do a monarchist dutch path when germany goes monarchist
and it breaks my hearth

:((

[graceful dagger]

Hm, that is a fair issue

[full ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/monolith-preacher-games-stalker-gif-19391373

[graceful dagger]

Post that on the forums as a suggestion to change

[outer whale]

ok

[outer whale]

btw what do u guys think about the army dynamic modifiers
denmark, Italy finland USSR and barely sweden has it

do u guys think to give it to other nations as well

[full ermine]

Battle of Bosporus was infinitely better than ToA lol

not even a contest

[obtuse ingot]

I know it’s impossible for hoi4… but time war would be so cool

[dull minnow]

Time war?

[graceful dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/daleks-dalek-ships-gallifrey-time-war-gif-27066886

The great time war between the time lords and dyleks

[graceful dagger]

Could be cool

[full ermine]

they post brainrot comments all the time, just ignore

[obtuse ingot]

It it’d probably be more like 5 D chess.

Playing as Germany about to lose in 1942… hop back to 1932… but your enemies could steal the tech and counter your time jumps

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/5D_Chess_with_Multiverse_Time_Travel

[dull minnow]

This is too much lore for me, but it reminded me of something, i't be cool if they added a cold war mechanic that would make countries who have developed nuclear weapons far less inclined to fight each other directly, especially since the USSR always ends up at war with the allies like 5 minutes after germany is defeated

[obtuse ingot]

Hoi+ if paradox can buy **Espiocracy **… 💯

[obtuse ingot]

It’s a Star Trek thing

[solid gyro]

Not really? It really only because of Bulgaria and their Geographic locations

The trees themselves for South America are just more fun

With the added bonus of small KR- Level Trees for two extra nations

Goodneighbor Policy s also ncredibly OP

[full ermine]

Greece had the weakest focus tree

Bulgaria was the most fun to do

Turkey had the most detailed one, its the only country in the game alongside Soviet Union to actually have a reason for player to play late game to 1945

ToA has no end game goal other than core Latin America, hooray i guess

[fresh cedar]

Agreed

[obtuse ingot]

Well… they have those cheesy Nazi moon colony movies….

Ooo a Last flight of Noah’s ark would be fun to see

[fresh cedar]

Honestly not a fan of the Temporal Cold War in Star Trek. I love the Star Trek series and many things to do with time. But the temporal Cold War was so poorly done.

[obtuse ingot]

I was hoping more where in time is Carmen San Diego vibes

[fresh cedar]

Could be interesting for a game

I fear content would be lacking. Paradox games tend to only encapsulate one period apart from Stellaris. Having to cover many would be very muddled

Like if they had unlimited resources they could do it

If any game were to get such mechanics I feel stellaris would be the one

Like the Krenim Time ship from voyager could exist

[obtuse ingot]

Omg planet of the apes in Stellaris

(I think it’s one of the origins but can’t remember)

[fresh cedar]

There are similar things

I mean you can nerve staple species

Is there a De-evolution weapon?

[obtuse ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-koopa-gif-9854026

De-evolution gun… 😆

[pseudo wing]

Stellaris has a De-evolution colossus

[solid gyro]

If it is then its gonna be really interesting to check out the new focuses for each path

Like some extras for the monarchy path a communist path (They are lacking one) and so on

[hexed mango]

I told you all that there is going to be a dev diary today

Who called it

[hexed mango]

Who

[pseudo wing]

not you, since its not a dev diary

[hexed mango]

[pseudo wing]

its a development update

[hexed mango]

[pseudo wing]

unfortunately you know I'm right

I love me some technicalities lmao

[hexed mango]

Feiki...

[obtuse ingot]

Some Israel/Middle East stuff that was going on #hoi4-general message

[mental onyx]

an update report about their update report lol

at least getting an update tomorrow is nice

[cosmic falcon]

What do you think these dev diaries will be about?

[solid gyro]

Prob about the new german focuses and prob a dev diary for austria and belgium

And maybe a diary for luxembourg

as those three (austria belgium and luxembourg) still dont have a focus after such long time

[obtuse stratus]

It's understandable that they don't have one

[solid gyro]

True but you can atleast give austria the option to deny the Anschluss or give them a alt historical like hungary for example

[cosmic falcon]

I hope we get a Czechoslovakia rework

[obtuse ingot]

Jewish Bohemia

[unreal geyser]

UPDATE ON THE DLC WHEN?

JESUS LORD PLEASE I NEED IT

I CANT TAKE THIS WAITING ANY LONHER

[warped onyx]

developer diary October 3. this is crap, you don't even have to wait for the DLC

[rugged gazelle]

It's one month

[dull minnow]

Austria and luxembourg, sure, but belgium deserves a focus tree

[rugged gazelle]

If they finally decide to (re)add the 1933 start...

Belgium may decide to remaine in the ex entente

And Dolfuss may survive

And China war will be different

[tacit sequoia]

It’ll probably be big dlc like no step back, as others decline the idea.

[unreal geyser]

dont understand what you just said

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully they never do. Would rather later content than earlier

[fresh cedar]

Exactly

[obtuse ingot]

🤔 Have you guys thought about more ocean stuff?

Whale Corps.

Seafloor mining

Etc.

[hexed mango]

no one's gonna use that

[hexed mango]

it's gonna be just extra mechanics and buttons ppl have to push that they won't bother with

[obtuse ingot]

Really just making sea tiles claimable territory with resources

[fresh cedar]

How would that work?

[obtuse ingot]

We already claim sea zones…. It’d be kinda like that I guess.

[calm bramble]

Oh wait I forgot to do this

I've tried like 5 times

a few months ago

I think

[wise oxide]

wait is tomorrow a wareffort update? i heard rumors

[tacit sequoia]

says it in #hearts-of-iron-news

new dev diaries in october too

[wise oxide]

so tomorrow yes or no?

[tacit sequoia]

its not a big war effort update.

[wise oxide]

#normalize yes or no answer

[wise oxide]

still something

and im geeked bc of it

[tacit sequoia]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tacit sequoia]

yes there's a war effort, no it won't be big

[wise oxide]

its something still

and im Starving

[obtuse ingot]

ware fort…

There fort

[wise oxide]

war+effort 😱

[obtuse ingot]

My brain was seeing waffefort for a moment…

[eager prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/withdrawal-hoi4-crazy-guy-hearts-of-iron-4-hearts-of-iron-iv-gif-9037330197093317371

[eager prawn]

just for the meme xdddd

[unreal geyser]

thatd be kinda cool

naval combat is just really boring

[analog leaf]

I don’t wanna know what day 50 will be like

[calm bramble]

why do the brits always do this exact focus if they go monarchist

[fresh cedar]

Superiority is one thing, but occupation and use of resources is another. So you’re saying it would work similarily to land tiles?

[obtuse ingot]

🤷 sure

[calm bramble]

(they're not even in a faction)

😭

[outer whale]

YOUR ARMY IS DEAD

[calm bramble]

The front without italian volunteers:

[outer whale]

lol

[outer whale]

did u know that those 2 generals paradox added was waffen SS commanders

in denmark

lol

[calm bramble]

I just guessed they were danish natzees but close enough xd

[calm bramble]

Can't even finish this small encirclement

[outer whale]

set your law no garrison

[calm bramble]

I forgot garrisons existed lmao, thanks

[calm bramble]

third one of these encirclements on the western french coast

[calm bramble]

(and a 5th happened)

[molten vault]

No dlc reveal but dev diary update is a W

In guessing DLC reveal late october maybe early November

They said it would release in 2024 though

So maybe November - December release date

[calm bramble]

so cursed

belgium and sweden just joined the us faction

[fresh cedar]

Feel like that couldn’t be super well represented in game unless they rework resources

[calm bramble]

sad

spain can't catch a break

wait this is the wrong channel

mb y'all

[eager prawn]

I think the small team is working on a Asiatic DLC/Country pack like Trial of Allegiance
Philippines, (maybe Feench Indochina) British Malay, Siam, Dutch East Indies Focus Trees

or an Arabic DLC: Iraq Iran Afghanistan Saudi Arabia etc....

[fading walrus]

Either sound more interesting tbh

Than TOA

[eager prawn]

Asiatic DLC would be cool with a naval update

[fading walrus]

As long as Turkey gets reworked with the Middle Eastern one (which I doubt)

[eager prawn]

it would be a nice adding small things trough war effort

like last year

stuff that canada and hungary got was nice

[fading walrus]

Turkeys focus tree is pretty bad…

[eager prawn]

yup

Bulgaria is f awsome

imo

[fading walrus]

Greece was alright

IMO

[solid gyro]

I did some research and the October 3 day is when the Italians invaded Ethiopia and when the German rockets flew the furthest up 70km

It’s also German unity day

hell yeah 🇩🇪

[paper estuary]

Sounds like a great day to announce improvements to dividing Germany up

[obtuse ingot]

If Philippines… should have a Statehood option

[outer whale]

And when allied forces break through springfield line

[silent flicker]

we're so barrack

[obtuse ingot]

What’s War Effort?

[stable tusk]

It's an update, not a DLC sized update, but still has some decent stuff in it

[unreal geyser]

i havent seen that yet, send screenshot please

[obtuse ingot]

I thought it might be a fancy word for “change log” or something

[stable tusk]

It's tomorrow

[native nexus]

i dont know madgal is a jende

[full ermine]

so called free thinkers when 🇹🇷 focus tree

its long and takes a while to build up

but there are way worse focus trees in the game

its not that bad

its the only focus tree alongside Soviet Union that has enough content for late game years

otherwise getting Nuke X places in 1945 is not a good gameplay and i drop 100% of my games in like 1943 unless i am playing these two mentioned above

[hexed mango]

Yo guys, dev diary today

[tacit sequoia]

No its war effort

Plus there’s already a date for dev diaries, October 3rd.

[hexed mango]

So dev diary

☝️

[solid gyro]

You happy now you can mark a big circle on October 3rd to get your long awaited dev diaries

[hexed mango]

[wise oxide]

hoi 4 today?

warfort

[tacit sequoia]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/s/ZaF6muEMaL

[outer whale]

Japan when poland declares war be like

[wise oxide]

austria mentioned

[jovial furnace]

when does the current sale end?

[stark schooner]

September 2 I think

[jovial furnace]

ty

[exotic kelp]

i wanna see a modding tutorial/guide on how to add new units and templates

[sonic jackal]

The cavalry meta is here (it got some buffs from the early doctrines lol)

[fresh cedar]

Definitely more of a bug fix type war effort but appreciate them fixing so many countries

[jolly bluff]

LESSS FUC*ING GOOOOOOOOO

[latent heart]

finally

[wise oxide]

i love the extra flavor for the warlords

[lilac crag]

Finally Churchill will die and not be banished in the Falklands

[lilac crag]

Yeah, especially the supply hub bonuses

[wise oxide]

same with stalin on chuckEcheese peninsula

[knotty hollow]

THANK YOU PARADOX 🙏🙏🙏

wait already posted lmao

no more Falklands Churchill

[jolly bluff]

Roosevelt will finally be imprisoned instead of banished to Attu Island, les go.

[knotty hollow]

Will Hitler still be left in control of Berlin next to a British controlled German puppet

[jolly bluff]

YASSSSSSS, ACCURATE POST-WINTER WAR BORDERS

[jolly bluff]

Well if the islands have been fixed, I guess the land should be too.

I’m hoping that the bug where the AI fights you to the death over a state only to not take it has been fixed but maybe not.

[knotty hollow]

THANK YOU PARADOX, ONLY TOOK YOU A YEAR 🙏🙏🙏

[jolly bluff]

Damn, has it really been a year since Arms Against Tyranny released?

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[knotty hollow]

possibly the most easily abusable (and widely known) bug in the game and they wait till now to fix

[knotty hollow]

Idk I was just guessing

[jolly bluff]

I never even knew that that was bugged despite using paratroopers consistently.

[knotty hollow]

Yeah 14 months

[knotty hollow]

The tooltip says there’s a cool down but there just isn’t

[cyan juniper]

p2w

[jolly bluff]

I’ve always just used them on the first push in a state and once and probably not used them in the campaign a second time.

[knotty hollow]

You’re meant to be able to do it once per state but before now it triggered for every single paratrooper division

[jolly bluff]

Never knew the cool-down didn’t work, guess I just couldn’t bother enough to make more paradrop orders.

[jolly bluff]

Bro

I always only used one paradrop order per state because I thought the cool-down worked.

[knotty hollow]

One of many reasons why every MP game bans paratroopers

[cyan juniper]

they were cancer before aat

[pseudo wing]

They weren't waiting to fix it, from what I know it was just a difficult one to try and fix in the first place

[cyan juniper]

aat made them nuketroopers

[hexed mango]

DEV DIARY

LESGO

[pseudo wing]

nope, not dev diary

patch notes

[cyan juniper]

sep 1

[wise oxide]

how did this happen on historical💀 ?

[swift mortar]

I wonder abt this

I want to see how this changes stuff

[sonic jackal]

Proper Heritage no longer gives cav attack, the West has fallen.

[knotty hollow]

Yeah it gives something useful now lol

[swift mortar]

Nah I’m interested in the xp gain for leaders

[unreal geyser]

about time, thank you Jesus

but when will we hear something from the new DLC

[mental onyx]

October 3

[cosmic falcon]

R.I.P old Professional Officer Corps.

[mental onyx]

hey at least it is overall better

[unreal geyser]

oh yeah someone said that date before he was talking about dev diary and shit

but I didn’t know what that meany

DAMN OCTOBER 3RD

THATS ANOTHER MONTH AWAY

[mental onyx]

Don't worry, it is like a 35 day focus for paradox. It will be done in no time

[pseudo wing]

every time someone says its a month away

we delay it a month

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

[unreal geyser]

😭

[mental onyx]

We just have to find the button that puts the world in 5 speed

[unreal geyser]

the way this summer flew by it prob already is in 5 speed

[mental onyx]

We must be inside a laptop from the balkans then

[unreal geyser]

only in balkan 🤓

[rugged gazelle]

About the patch note... I'm starting to think maybe Germany may not be the next on the horizon to get an update but probably Asia

[mental onyx]

Imagine the next dlc is just like WTT. Updates asia and germany for some reason

I'll take japan having a better focus tree in the next dlc than an austria and belgium focus tree any day

[cosmic falcon]

Why not both?

[rugged gazelle]

Should we pay Waking the Tiger again?

They already updated Death or Dishonor, I want to think they'll do the same

[unreal geyser]

idk austria getting a focus tree could be so cool and change everything on the european continent

[mental onyx]

Hoping it has a better austria hungary focus tree. In r56, some of the focuses for austria are wild.

[unreal geyser]

i havent played r56 should i download it?

[rugged gazelle]

In my opinion in By Blood Alone instead of Switzerland we should had Austria

[mental onyx]

it's free so why not, it is a bit laggier than vanilla though. In there austria-hungary focus tree, you get a choice between boosting your production lines or deporting all romanians from transylvania for cores💀

[rugged gazelle]

Switzerland is just a meme

Even with the dlc doesn't change nothing

[unreal geyser]

😈😈

[rugged gazelle]

You have to play it to notice Switzerland has a focus tree

[swift mortar]

Nah, France and some other countries get “Swiss Gold”

And stuff which gives like 10% efficiency cap and a bunch of other bonuses

[unreal geyser]

mid

[jovial furnace]

do yall think there will eventually be a middle eastern, an oceaninan (malaya, philip, east indies and/or siam), and a tuvan/mongolian/menkukuouan dlc to fill the big gaps of no focus counties in said regions?

[cyan juniper]

ocenian is very high likely

[jovial furnace]

to be fair yeah... out of all 3 these had the most impact in ww2

[junior shore]

Hi , i have a qustion, do anyone know what the next dlc for Hoi4 is?

[rugged gazelle]

Yes but my reasons remaine

[solid gyro]

The next dlc is a rework for germany and a few new focuses for europe austria belgium etc

In october we will get the first dev diary

[junior shore]

Okay, thanks : D

[rugged gazelle]

Probably

[solid gyro]

I mean its obivous thats its a germany rework

[rugged gazelle]

It may be an asian rework

[rugged gazelle]

They changed a bit china with this 1.14.8

[swift mortar]

It’s confirmed to rework Japan

Japan is confirmed, so it’s either a pacific rework or axis rework

[rugged gazelle]

They may rework both but would be truly a surprise for me

[solid gyro]

If they do that then i will buy that for sure

[swift mortar]

And considering the fact they do dlcs by region, it won’t rework axis

So its almost most definitely not Germany

[obtuse ingot]

🤔 is there an option to unite the English and French lands under one crown?

[swift mortar]

There’s a decision when a democratic France capitulates to a fascist Germany

[cyan juniper]

wasnt short video pretty obvious

how can it be asia

[solid gyro]

Fr

[swift mortar]

There was a video?

[cyan juniper]

check yt channel

3 months ago

[solid gyro]

On yt yes the castle looks to much german then asian

[swift mortar]

Wasn’t that for the art pack

[cyan juniper]

art pack is soviet

[solid gyro]

Nope the teaser is called what lies ahead

or something like that

[swift mortar]

Yeah but right after they said it was for art pack right

[solid gyro]

Nope the art pack got a seperate trailer this teaser was for the expansion dlc

[swift mortar]

Devs said online “with the latest dlc we noticed Japan losing much more often to China”

In response to a comment

[cyan juniper]

next big dlc is 100% germany

[swift mortar]

So they are changing something with either Japan or Germany

So ig Germany and Japan which is weird

Usually they do them by regions

[solid gyro]

Why would it be japan if the castle in the teaser looks to much european and it got alot of the german building style in the medieval times i dont think asian countries build their fortresses that way in the medieval times

But ig we will see

[swift mortar]

Devs said online that “Japan is losing more”

And I’m still pretty sure the teaser was for the art

[solid gyro]

Yeah ok but again i never saw a japanese samurai in a knight armor which had european style

which you can see in the teaser

[obtuse ingot]

Japan… become American protectorate

[cyan juniper]

bruh it was a small collaboration with wa devs

forget art pack

[swift mortar]

We’ll have to see

[solid gyro]

Yeah but like we said japan is very unlikely cause again in the teaser the castle looks really to much european same goes for the armour in the teaser instead of asian variants idk under which video you saw that comment but really it would confuse me if it really was a japan rework then i would prob say you where right

But yeah like you said we will see

[mental onyx]

People are forgetting that WTT being portrayed as a Japan rework also updated germany. They might do that again since you know Japan is the only country to experience a small fraction of the sun in their country.

[obtuse ingot]

Idea: Post war… give the UN territory

[swift mortar]

It was a Reddit post

I forgot which dev

[solid gyro]

Alright well we will see either way it will be really awesome

[swift mortar]

If it’s both Germany and Japan that would be awesome tbh

But I also want to see Siam focus tree

I will riot if we never get a good Siam focus tree

[solid gyro]

Fr Like waking the tiger did but only in this dlc it will be a major rework

For both

[swift mortar]

That’s why they had to integrate wtt

Because they can’t make you pay 2x for the same country focus tree

[jolly bluff]

Fr, they can just make it like in RT56. Make French Indochina a playable nation and add the Franco-Thai War of 1940.

[swift mortar]

I want a really really good Siam focus tree and some cool achievements

[jolly bluff]

Making French Indochina a playable nation could also pave the way for adding more post-war content. Such as the Indochina War.

[swift mortar]

It has rich history

[jolly bluff]

I’m really looking forward to the next expansion. It’s really looking like we’ll get a proper Germany and Japan rework.

It was about time the Pacific Theatre of the war got the attention it desperately needed.

[obtuse ingot]

Grant some kind of territory to the UN would be interesting right?

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, I think if the devs are looking into making the game better during the post-war period the League of Nations and UN should be implemented.

Now this is just my personal opinion, but I think that the whole “make as much early conquests as possible before the Allies start guaranteeing nations” thing is kind of stupid.

Realistically you should be discouraged from starting expansionist wars during peace time and encouraged to go ahead and grab as much land as you possibly can while the major powers are duking it out between each other.

[obtuse ingot]

Give the mandate of Palestine as HQ and have them run it.

[outer whale]

You can paint those wars as civil wars

Like

Ur sweden

U want norway and denmark

And they reject ur ultimatum

U ignite a civil war in there and getting involved without officaly declaring war

[jolly bluff]

Yeah this could make more sense.

I really don’t get how you can get away with invading Turkey, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan that easily as the Soviet Union and highly threatening Britain’s sphere of influence.

[outer whale]

There was a lot of turks living in Iran and Turkmen

If they uprise

With a focus

[jolly bluff]

Or threatening France’s sphere of influence by easily puppeting Yugoslavia as Italy.

[outer whale]

You can do the meme

[autumn breach]

Shit update still haven’t brought back Greek agility aircraft designer

[hasty ridge]

The France fixes are neat. Couldn't they come out TEN DAYS AGO WHILE I WAS GOING FOR THE ACHIEVEMENTS?

especially rearmement.

[mental onyx]

Ikr, i was doing the demilitarize rhineland achievement and the 35 day focuses for the little entente would have definitely helped me

[polar willow]

Ahh, disappointed to see that there aren’t changes to tank or aircraft categories. At the very least the aircraft designer one is bugged and doesn’t work but the tank one is silly and doesn’t provide enough flexibility.

[outer whale]

chak

i have a question

do the devs of hoi4

record their deving

like taking a video of their deving, making the focuses modifiers etc

[pseudo wing]

not that I know of

unless we specifically ask for it for a video or something else

it'd be quite distracting to have someone shoving a camera at you while you're trying to work

[zenith cargo]

We do not no

[outer whale]

ah

i see

[outer whale]

also nice pfp

[zenith cargo]

It's a cat!

[outer whale]

yes

war veteran cat

brother of the sam in bismarck ship

[zenith cargo]

In general though I dont think it would be that interesting to look at, it might be hours of just people sitting and adding code.

I think we did a "how content is made" at one point but that was more of a short form thing

[outer whale]

i see

[hollow idol]

Starting october third

Meaning dlc in nov.

[hollow idol]

I do like this answer

[hollow idol]

Got to add unsinkable sam as a news event

Thats my homie

[jolly bluff]

Oh man I feel bad for you. This is why I decided against starting a France run yesterday as I remembered that the war effort update was today and if France got updated, then my save would either be broken or there would've been so much I would've missed out on.

[jolly bluff]

Fair enough, I now get why people rarely do something in those videos where they're being recorded doing their work. Either that or they are very focused and rarely say anything.

[pseudo wing]

A lot of behind the scenes stuff tends to be quite boring, as Craniummuppet mentioned

It's a lot easier to show off the more finished things, or more formed works in progress shown so that we can get excited as a collective. But with coding in general its not the most interesting thing unless you enjoy doing it yourself, let alone watching someone do it

[fading walrus]

I think the DLC will release December 16th

The start date of the battle of the bulge

[tacit sequoia]

Do you know any of the nations that are in the DLC? or is it Germany.

[pseudo wing]

I know the nations that are in it, Malta is not one of them

but that's all you get from me

[tacit sequoia]

Aight lol

[pseudo wing]

see?

[tacit sequoia]

Yeah

[jolly bluff]

Alright boys, it is time to riot against Paradox for not offering us an overpowered Malta focus tree where you can turn the island into literal Albania and become an isolated nuclear superpower.

[tacit sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/malta-gif-23460277

[jolly bluff]

Thank you Paradox, this pleases me greatly.

[outer whale]

what is that

[covert kindle]

whats new?

what new national focuses were added

[outer whale]

the current ones were fixed if i am right

[jolly bluff]

Before, if you took the "Revive the National Bloc" focus the political branch of France's focus tree would end up overlapping with the military branch of the focus tree.

This is how it looked like.

[swift mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

no

[calm bramble]

farewell 🫡

[outer whale]

whats up

[obtuse ingot]

💡

Landless Adventurer HoI4

There’s soo much potential for stuff there

[spare mesa]

What did this upgrade change with the Warlords of China?

[stable tusk]

Which is also the 34th anniversary of German Reunification at the end of the Cold War
(Unity Day)

So it's 100% a German rework

Unless Paradox is trollin

[solid gyro]

I honestly think Luxembourg is gonna get a meme focus tree

[stable tusk]

Change a few focuses, added 3 more, and added a new national spirit that can be removed/altered with the tree

[hollow idol]

Capitalist tree and communist tree i suspect

Id pay 100$ at this point for a focus tree for ireland

[stable tusk]

I think historical and monarchist paths are gonna come with the free update with a type of democratic
Communism, another democratic, and West/East Germany will be paid content

[hollow idol]

I mean capitalist and communist prob dlc
Monarch and fascist reworks free

Most likely

East germany is my G though

Ireland would be a cool little nuetrality tree

That could split either way

While having a unification tree

[hasty ridge]

Question, is the American ideology attack strategy still doable where you stop them from accessing the "arsenal of Democracy" Focus?

[hollow idol]

Idk.
Last night i tried to go back to communist as czar tree

Didnt work for me

Was curiosity mostly

I think if it was multiplayer perhaps it would be possible

But not on single player

[hollow idol]

Also we are both in wrong chat

[obtuse ingot]

Playing as German resistance groups would be a fun DLC

[obtuse ingot]

Probably not much w/ warlords. I’m thinking it would expand trees of resistance groups primarily.

[stable tusk]

No the War Effort that released today

[hasty ridge]

My question was about whether they fixed an exploit yet

[floral scaffold]

Probably not

I mean how do you even protect against that

You'd have to give America more ideology drift defense in the beginning ig

[unreal geyser]

when will the devs fix the AI’s stupid ordening of their armies

with those billion different army groups

[rugged plank]

when will the devs fix cv refit costs

its been one year… 🥲

[obtuse stratus]

What is this war effort

Welsh Argentina decision

[harsh hull]

Spirits: State Serves the Military now grants 10% offensive war stability, from 10% political power gain

Dang dude, that 10% came in clutch many times

Rest in RIP in Peace, now I actually have to make tactical decisions on which one will benefit me the most, instead of picking the one that always works

[proper timber]

bad update

give justice for latvia

all we want is what you promised us 3 years ago

so where are my east belarussian cores pdx?

why is this decision still not working? Why you hate latvia so much? what has latvia ever done to you? #justiceforlatvia

[proper timber]

and give bialystok a core too

stop scamming the best baltic country

[obtuse ingot]

Expanding the Resistance Groups would be a huge rework… fun though

The Edelweiss Pirates, Black orchestra, Red Orchestra, Project Valkyrie, White Rose, resistance groups all over the place. Belgium, Austria, etc.

[outer whale]

paradox needs to change the state provinces as well

also why doesnt estonia start with navy

they had a fleet

like

latvia starts with 3 submarines

estonia had 2 destroyers and 2 submariens

but no

wheres justice

[polar jasper]

I'm still upset that New England is just 1 state and that Delaware doesn't exist in HOI4

I'm just saying, if Danzig is it's own state, Rhode Island can get some representation

[obtuse stratus]

well

danzig kinda serves a purpose

i know rhode island does too

but danzig is the reason the war started

[jolly bluff]

Yeah ok nevermind. The AI did leave Germany alive lol.

[south meadow]

why is rhineland demilitarized

[jolly bluff]

Oh I did that for the achievement "This time it will stick"

[south meadow]

how is it demilitarized when 1941 lol?

[jolly bluff]

You can demilitarise states in peace conferences.

[south meadow]

the question is does someone actually use that in peace conference

[jolly bluff]

Yeah no, nobody really does.

For whatever reason Paradox had the genius idea of making a demilitarised state an impassable state for every nation on earth.

That means that if you demilitarise a state, then YOU can't enter it either. ;/

[south meadow]

demilitarizing a whole country lol

[polar jasper]

Danzig used to be all of Gydnia before no step back, they split the state in 2

[hexed mango]

Guys, I feel like we might get a dev diary in a month or so, better mark my words

[tacit sequoia]

October 3rd, read the announcement.

[long timber]

Wat is a dev dairy?

[stable tusk]

The developers of the game basically give dev diaries to let players now about upcoming features, every Paradox game has them and every major update has a couple

[hollow coral]

they should also make burma a playable nation. maybe like an option if you play or british raj or uk where in 1937 you can choose to play as them

[proper timber]

Noone cares for belgium except buttersteal fanboys

[proper timber]

Yes because latvia is based, thats why

[hexed mango]

Wouldn't say that, but I would much rather have austria + czechoslovakia come with germany rather than have belgium come with it

[fallen rivet]

Based opinion i agree

Austria+czechoslovakia+germany would be best dlc

[hexed mango]

+small slovak focus tree

Like paraguay got

[fallen rivet]

Yes

[fallen rivet]

Or like iceland

[hexed mango]

Same thing, they're roughly the same size

[fallen rivet]

Yeah

I dont get it why paraguay which wasnt even in ww2 has a focus tree but austria or Slovakia or belgium doesnt have tree

Or albania

[hexed mango]

Bcs brazil and aegentina got focuses

[fallen rivet]

They should first focus on ww2 countries and then add others

[hexed mango]

They're just part of the pack

[fallen rivet]

Yeah

[hexed mango]

Just like portugal

Makes more sense to come with spain rather than have it come with other countries

Either way

[fallen rivet]

Yes thats true

[hexed mango]

Hope dod countries all get reworked

[fallen rivet]

Yes

[proper timber]

You

You are based

I like you

[proper timber]

And hungary rework. Noone likes full RNG tree nations. Unplayable

[proper timber]

Belgium is gay, thats why. But Irak, Persia, Austria, Luxembourg, Albania and Slovakia need one. Ireland too, they where nearly dragged in. And Yugo needs full rework, the partisans are absolutely 0 represented, and Croatia needs a tree in my view as much as Slovakia. Imagine surviving as ustasha with 70% starting resistance.

[fallen rivet]

Yes true yugoslavian partizans

[proper timber]

Palo, have your anti hungary opinion, but in every game, the bad boys should be playable with fun

[obtuse ingot]

Expanded resistance group focus trees. For Germany, Czechoslovakia, Belgium, Austria, etc.

[fallen rivet]

Same with belgium

[proper timber]

No, thats something totally different

[fallen rivet]

No

Anyways

[proper timber]

The world considers them as the good guys

The world is blind

[fallen rivet]

Belgium? Was good guys

Every european country should have focus tree in a ww2 game

[proper timber]

Nobody talked about leopold till like 10 years ago

[proper timber]

Except belgium

[fallen rivet]

Every bad guys and good guys deserve tree

But lets not get political or mods ban us

[proper timber]

Ok ok,

#justiceforlatvia

[fallen rivet]

Yes

[obtuse ingot]

Having a in general resistance tree… for each country.

Like if Canada decided to take over the USA, you have an option to play as a resistance group

[swift mortar]

Japan and Siam also need them more than Austria

[fallen rivet]

japan already has a focus tree and i wouldnt play siam same as i dont play south america cuz its boring and bad supply

austria has no focus tree

so priority is austria

[obtuse ingot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_resistance

[chrome vortex]

what's new

[cosmic falcon]

Why did they change Professional Officer Corps? It was fine the way it was.

[woeful oasis]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TIGR

[obtuse ingot]

Resistance groups could definitely use a rework…

[cosmic falcon]

I hope Paradox reconsiders this change towards this nerf for Professional Officer Corps.

Anyone else agree?

[obtuse ingot]

We could also have independent intelligence agencies which would function similar to, but not exactly the same as resistance groups

[outer whale]

Austria Belgium Albania and Ireland has no focus tree at europe
I'd prioritize austria and Belgium honestly

Since you can have more content with that

[cosmic falcon]

Luxembourg?

[outer whale]

Oh yes them as well

I think they also can get a focus tree if this is a germany and neighbours tree

Benelux tree

I can see some achievements as Luxembourg

[obtuse ingot]

Princip later reencounters the Archduke's entourage by chance and fatally shoots him and his wife, starting World War I. () learns that the assassination was orchestrated by "The Flock": a group plotting to pit the German, Russian, and British empires against each other.

We could play the evil organization or a good one

[outer whale]

" Form Holy Roman Empire as Luxembourg "

[full ermine]

🇹🇯 its so weird that Tajikistan can form Turkestan, even though they belong to Iranian people group

where i can send bug reports to Paradox?

[pseudo wing]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-bug-reports.951/

[full ermine]

👑

[quiet smelt]

It didnt even fight in ww2

Or exist for it

While Siam did

Japan has the worst focus tree out of all majors and wasn't touched since waking the tiger

[fallen rivet]

Yeah but it would have big impact in 36 scenario meanwhile siam would have 0 impact

[drowsy plank]

... Siam at least in mp is actually a decently important country, since its japans only friendly supplier of rubber if the netherlands, France and Britain stay historical

Also I don't know what you are talking about with early austria importance, the only chance it has of doing anything is as either annexed austria hungary, or the Italians going a hist and remaining stern on their stance of fighting the germans if austria is invaded

[solid gyro]

It's because Austria is probably bundled with a Germany and European nations DLC

Besides, Turkey didn't either

[quiet smelt]

God willing it gets nothing

[fallen rivet]

Yeah but in european theatre it wouldnt change anything only in the asian one

[solid gyro]

There'd probably be an Ethiopia style path based on resistance, rn it's super easy to play Austria and hold

[outer whale]

You can hold against Anchluss

Clearing the nazis

From the country

You can do many things with Austria

Holy Roman Empire

Austrian Empire

Austria Hungary

Alpine Path

And like you have leaders for it that opposed anchluss

Otto von Habsburg

He was opposed against Anchluss

Nazis hated him so much

He was sentenced to death wherever he was spotted at

You can join Little Entente

Danubian federation

Pan europe path

Like it has many potenials

You can add a lot of achievements as well

Reverse Anchluss

[lilac coyote]

yo real shit did they buff chinese warlords? 👁️

[obtuse ingot]

Austrian resistance groups and the like 👍

Belgium could have a similar type of focus

[granite rose]

So what is this new update I just downloaded?

They didnt say anything in #hearts-of-iron-news

[pseudo wing]

its just a hotfix for the launcher issues

it doesnt do anything to the game itself, its only for the launcher

[granite rose]

Ah ok thanks

[woeful oasis]

Also independent rebellions/immersive resistance groups, government in exile politics,and propaganda warfare

[obtuse ingot]

Yes.

[drowsy plank]

Its easy, against AI germany. Against AI you can literally play luxemburg and destroy the german military

Against players the country is not only only really usefull as an annex build in 99% of games, unlike ethiopia its literally imbetween your two most likely enemies

[solid gyro]

1 thing that hoi4 should do is make it so that modding the radio should not disable achievments

[azure orbit]

my fav is getting a friend as hungary w me as austria and killing germans by ourselves

usually need czech tho

[cyan juniper]

nah you need to kill them for forming ah

you can solo germany

[errant cypress]

Is 1,14.8 out?

[jolly bluff]

A lot of things shouldn't disable achievements. For example super event mods that just have an image pop up with a quote from some random historical figure shouldn't disable achievements either.

[jolly bluff]

The War Effort update? Yeah it's out already.

[harsh hull]

I do enjoy the changes to Legimist France's war goals against Spain

Nationalist Spain thinks it's hot stuff until 72 fully trained infantry divisions come knocking

[outer whale]

I hope those nations that gets DLC would get this army modifier like Italy, soviets, finland and denmark has

Imagine it for germany

Heer

Luftwaffe

Kriegsmarine

It'd be good if those 3 branches gets focus tree

And we can advance them

[twilit bay]

is there like a hoi4 mod that if im at unhistorical the ai will only take unhistorical focuses and no coutry takes historical ones or can someone help me code such mod?

[dull minnow]

yes there is