latest-updates

[muted fjord]

everytime they ping me i feel like that

[calm bramble]

the pain 😔

[muted fjord]

the pain is real

[pseudo wing]

Sorry to get your hopes up, but alas it was my horrible Photoshop skills with another challenge

[muted fjord]

i mean i like the challenges + it somewhat keeps the community alive but yk we're all hyped for the update

[pseudo wing]

yeah I understand, trust me when I say when I have the info I will relay it to y'all, but until then, have the Kool-Aid man in a horrible twisted photoshop instead :p

[wise oxide]

war effort where are you

[solid gyro]

It's a reve

Mongolia is main focus for next DLC

It will be bigger than the Soviet Tree

[wise oxide]

unironically a scizo mongol empire path would be epic

[fresh cedar]

Kms 😔

[lethal agate]

Yo skibidi sigma Taboritsky

[sullen light]

Liberia focus tree for 30 euro

Definitely the next dlc

[stable tusk]

It's Midnight

[hard holly]

how is there no austria tree yet

[solid gyro]

REMAIN CALM
THE REGENT ENDURES
ALEXEI LIVES

[sour sand]

hi

I love hungary

https://tenor.com/view/slovensko-caputova-fico-robert-historia-gif-27709370

[rose terrace]

@dense gale hello my heart

[sour sand]

👀

[solid gyro]

sigma borders

[lethal agate]

Frfr

⏰⏰⏰

[hearty bobcat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030362806836543519/1225440520118210631/Media_220819_212840.gif

[fresh cedar]

I feel like if they make another content creator pack, it would be nice to get 3D skins/models. Really liked how they added special ones for many special forces. Hope they keep that up.

[wise oxide]

day 5 no hoi

[floral cliff]

Would love all the majors to be filled out, love the flavor

[fresh cedar]

Same

[wise oxide]

day 4 of no hoi😖

[tribal hamlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/875481236859146240/1261640703843500073/f7HpaCA.mp4?ex=6693b1f7&is=66926077&hm=0ae50eba390cd2cc17aa232a626db58883a711c6cfa890afb0b1faebf99d3829&

[bleak wing]

never

HOI4 forever

[woeful oasis]

Any word on the upcoming dlc?

[dim saffron]

yea its going to be nepal focus tree

[jaunty yacht]

We believe the trailer might drop on Tuesday

[tacit sequoia]

theres a bit of doubts with that since the HOI4 team is on summer vacation, though idk, im just a user that enjoys the game lol

[jaunty yacht]

Eh they left the bunker guy working, it's not complicated to make a trailer and just postpone it's release

I mean he would only need to upload it, and after that they work again after vacations

[tacit sequoia]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wise oxide]

if today no hoi hoifalen

[wise oxide]

bro if not tomorrow im gonna go crazier than usual

[mossy rapids]

when will the next dlc come?

[harsh hull]

After people stop asking when the next DLC is coming out

[solid gyro]

True

[sour sand]

Kazakhstan focus tree

[sour sand]

tomorrow

[mossy rapids]

ok

[bleak wave]

When is the next DLC coming out… specifically for Luxembourg?

[trim quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/mog-statue-mogger-mogging-mewing-gif-4726236665805485045

[warped onyx]

Pls create Crimea focus tree

Tomorrow

[wise oxide]

today war effort or else its outrageous just tell us if its delayed😭 😭

[pseudo wing]

It's the summer break, there was no communication that I am aware of that specifically stated one would come out today? unless I am mistaken?

[zenith cargo]

it wasnt

[wise oxide]

it was supposed to be monthly and its been 3 months

we only got 2

[pseudo wing]

Well, the previous one was made larger to go alongside our anniversary, and the next update should happen in Q3, I believe, but it is July so the devs are on vacation at the moment, or at least most of them are

When we get another War Effort I will let you all know don't worry, they aren't cancelled as far as I am aware

[wise oxide]

ok

[mental onyx]

Patch notes just make some people hard but I understand

[mossy rapids]

that explains a LOT

sorry for being impatient

[wise oxide]

its doing more than that

[stoic mist]

One minor thing you may want to consider fixing in the next update. When Germany does "Fate of Czechoslovakia", it can split the nation with Hungary, which is fine. However, if the Hungarians approach the Germans on the matter, when the German AI does its focus, it'll give Slovakia to Hungary, but not annex Bohemia and Moravia (in other words, leaving a tiny, independent Czech Republic). It's a minor thing, but it makes playing Hungary kind of annoying. Would it be possible to add this to a list of potential fixes?

[pseudo wing]

Best place to put suggestions for War Effort updates or future content would be on the Forums, I only facilitate the communication between the devs and yourselves for when content, updates, and other things are to be presented to y'all 🙂

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[wise oxide]

and Q3 is what exactly?

[pseudo wing]

3rd quarter of the year

[wise oxide]

ok

[mossy rapids]

so from july to september

oh so its not really that long of a wait from now

[solid gyro]

i think that its gonna be austria, hungary, germany, luxembourg and czechs/slovakia

and then like maybe a shared focus tree for the reichkommisariata

like ukraine

[tacit sequoia]

Well let’s see, but I doubt there’s gonna be something releasing today

[wise oxide]

albania and belgium dont evn have a tree yet

[solid gyro]

belgium would fit well with an allies based rework rather than an axis one

and albania shouldve been with bba

[wise oxide]

you included Luxemburg

[solid gyro]

in a perfect world i would want Germany, Austria, Belgium, Lux, Hungary, Czechia/Slovakia

but no

[wise oxide]

but tbh they can have tiny trees

[solid gyro]

thats why i included lux cuz of the tiny tree but belgium needs a bigger one cuz of the congo

and they are a netherlands power nation

[fading walrus]

Germany is definitely going to get a communist path

But I doubt its going to be good

It will most likely be the two usual options

Befriend Stalin

Or go it alone and spread the revolution

Im honestly more curious about the Kaiser path

[fading walrus]

I honestly think that Belgium and the rest of the Low Countries should be packaged with France

Because of the 1923 Belgium and France treaty

And it just makes more sense adding or reworking the other Low Countries with Belgium

Anyways here are my dlc predictions

Britain will be reworked with the Dominions

France with the low countries

Germany with central europe

China will be reworked on its own

USA will be reworked with Mexico and central america

Japan with the asian colonies

And a Middle East dlc

And maybe a little entente dlc

[wind chasm]

.

[fading walrus]

What thats my prediction

Its not going to be 100% accurate

[wind chasm]

i agree

[fading walrus]

France might be reworked with the little entente instead of the Low Countries

But thats not going to be for a while

Its probably gonna be the middle east dlc next or Japan

Probably Japan next

[fresh cedar]

USA/Japan and the Pacific need a rework bad

[warped shard]

Yknow everyone complaining here that there is no dev-diary.

Eh
give me a new feature and I'm happy :P

[muted fjord]

japan deserves a rework just as much as germany

but imo germany is more important atm

[hard smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/pikmin-hug-hug-pikmin-red-pikmin-purple-pikmin-gif-4425781189286194658

[fresh cedar]

In a World War Game you have to consider other theaters though. The pacific and North African are basically nonexistent

[fresh cedar]

Besides Japan/USA need some serious state/factory scaling reworks

[mental onyx]

North Africa falls by 1940 and Japan can even lose to china by 1944 because the AI can't seem to effectively fight off convoy raiding.

To be honest, north africa falls easily because of convoy raiding also.

[fresh cedar]

Which is another reason why it could use a rework. It determined the fate of Italy and Germanys plan to stop the UK’s supply

[muted fjord]

yeah ig but both japans & germanys trees are like 6 years old so no wonder

[fresh cedar]

Japan’s is just so bad imo. Like Germany definitely needs polish and flavor + end goals. But Japan is terrible

[muted fjord]

100% my opinion by the time I go to east asia my focus tree will be done + pearl harbor is non-existent which ruins the 'historical accuracy' of hoi4/pdx

[fresh cedar]

I mean they could technically do it and get TORA TORA TORA but it sucks

USA, Germany and Japan need what the USSR got

[fading walrus]

and the UK and France

[fresh cedar]

For sure

[muted fjord]

bro im not even saying to recreate it as a decision where it just deletes a few ships and recks others, but instead making the American fleet actually park at Pearl Harbor so you can port strike it (not forgetting the port strike boost you get from Tora! tora! tora!)

[fresh cedar]

Should give the US a naval debuff for like a year too.

[muted fjord]

that too

ive heard they are a bit cautious to add it since it apparently can someway ( i wouldnt ) be compared the holocaust since that is also viewed as a very touchy topic ( rightfully so )

[fresh cedar]

I just want the EU to be able to core all of Europe like what Brazil can do with South America. Or something similar for an African country

[fresh cedar]

What, Pearl Harbor? It does exist in game. If the US has a certain number of ships there Japan can do it

[muted fjord]

wait do they actually? i guess i never noticed since i only attack after i finish the strike on southern resources focus

[fresh cedar]

If the US has a certain number of specific ship types stationed there it can happen yeah

But losing a few ships isn’t that huge tbh. A temporary debuff would go a long way

[muted fjord]

wdym it can happen, it only would happens (havent actually tried it out) if you get a carrier over there and manually port strike it

right?

unless that is what you mean

[fresh cedar]

I’m not sure if it still exists, but it would be like a decision/focus that was enabled if they had a certain number of ships there and it would auto carry it out for you

[muted fjord]

nah they removed that a while ago

[fresh cedar]

So like once clicking the decision or completing the focus, I forget which. The US ships would basically get deleted

I’ll check when I get home

[muted fjord]

it was partnered with the american focus 'pearl harbor gambit'

[muted fjord]

you dont have to, ive read abt it

that was removed, sadly

[fresh cedar]

Yeah that was it

No idea why it was removed tbh, worked decently on historical

They really need to rework and add it

[woeful oasis]

Any news on the DLC?

[paper estuary]

Devs are on summer vacation
Any new info is coming sometime in the next couple of months

That's all for now sadly

[jaunty yacht]

We will probably not get anything until the first weeks of August

[hexed mango]

"2 dlcs a year"

we ain't even getting the dev diaries for the next dlc this year...

[hexed mango]

honestly every major that is not Italy and the USSR need a rework

uk and france need a minor one tho imo

usa and japan need an overhaul

[tacit sequoia]

There might be one in august :p

[tacit sequoia]

USA def needs a rework since the Brazilian tree is smaller than the actual USA, though I’m thinking it might be next year for the USA-Japanese rework

Since Iwo Jima was an important battle of the pacific front, it kinda makes sense to rework the Pacific War + USA and Japan

Plus it’s 80 years since the Battle of Iwo Jima itself

[polar jasper]

Wdym France needs a minor one, left side actively nerfs you with consumer goods and less factory output until you get high stability, which France doesn't have for a while

The monarchist trees are quite mediocre

[hexed mango]

they can be modified or expaned on

[polar jasper]

Democratic tree is alright, but France Leads is awful

[hexed mango]

the tree doesn't need to be built from the ground up

[polar jasper]

Communist is meh, but works

Fascist trees are alright

[polar jasper]

It needs a lot of work though

70 days after 70 days

70 days for like 2 building slots

[hexed mango]

yeah those can just be reduced in the files

change the number 10 to 5 in the code and that's it

[polar jasper]

If you do all your industry focuses for like over year, you get like 6 civs in core territory?

The rest are in colonies?

[hexed mango]

I made a thread about france long ago

[polar jasper]

Even making them 35 days wouldn't solve it

[hexed mango]

lemme see if I can still find it

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/french-rebalancings-improvements-and-bug-fixes.1440225/

here it is

nvm found the latest post on it

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/french-focuses-fixes-and-improvements-more.1429283/#post-27106536

[fresh cedar]

I personally really like the French Empire tree.

Since they let it take Lux, it’s been pretty good. Wish it got some like late game cores similar to the reworked Spanish empire

It’s defintely the weakest out of the German, Italian, Spanish, British

Germany can do HRE, Italy Rome, Spain can do massive Spanish colonial empire, and England can do insane stuff like core puppets and form EU. France gets Algeria 😂

[fading walrus]

Needs to be reworked with more claims

Like disunite Italy

Dalmatia

The lands sold to American, Hati, Quebec

And Mexico

And an alliance with Poland as long as they aren’t communist or fascist

[fading walrus]

I read it

Its really well written and made

@hexed mango also they didnt get Roman Dimiski right in NSB

Irl he was anti German

But when you put him in power he makes Poland a German client state

And he historically died In January 1939

Of natural causes

At 79 years old

He doesn’t die at all in the game despite being 76 years old in 1936

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/polish-political-tree-is-way-too-ahistorical.1499966/ this covers it in more detail

[hexed mango]

Leaders become immortal once they get in power

[fresh cedar]

Game is only supposed to run till the end of 1948 when most were still alive

[fading walrus]

Some

Kaiser Wilhelm dies randomly after a while

Victor Emmanuel dies in 1946

When he historically died

Hitler will “die” in the German Civil war

And that Greek Democratic guy will die too

[fresh cedar]

Feel like it would be cool if they added historical deaths for everyone up to 1949 though

Not just a very select few

[fading walrus]

Wilhelm should die in May 1941

Which is when he historically died

No wait

June 4th 1941

[odd canyon]

Hey! Do any of you guys know, when the next Patch with bugfixes will be released? It still hurts my heart to see my admiral not getting extra Skillpoints because of my Army Spirit Choice 😦

[tacit sequoia]

Probably next month

[mental onyx]

The devs better cook the next war effort patch to make all this waiting worth it.

[mossy rapids]

they will, im sure of it

[dense gale]

A man can wish

[floral scaffold]

English only

[solid gyro]

English or Spanish? Nah it's English or English 🇬🇧

[hexed mango]

they won't

honestly war patches should have more bugfixes, and actually expand on older trees, like add 5-6 focuses at once to a nation's focus tree, that's what I've been expecting honestly

instead we get 1 focus every 2 patches

and some of the most well known problems and bugs are not even addressed

[mental onyx]

I was expecting more QOL improvements than new focuses. Maybe rework faction joining so switzerland won't join the chinese united front and maybe launchable white peace with most nations your at war with but a man can dream.

Maybe that mechanic can only come with a future dlc instead of a war effort patch

[hexed mango]

there are many things that can be improved and fixed easily

even the focuses, it's not like they would have to create a new focus tree from the scratch, most of them would just be a copy paste of another national focus with a few numbers changed and different title

[tacit sequoia]

Somehow now that I’ve seen the dev diary of Mexico tree being in 2018, there’s a small chance it’ll be reworked with USA when the 2025 major dlc releases, or not

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi4-dev-diary-mexico.1125224/

Didn’t realize the tree is 5-6 years old lol

[tacit sequoia]

All I can say for 2025 dlc, it’s probably a Japanese USA rework dlc due to the pacific war ending 80 years ago (currently 79), similar to how D-Day was 80 years ago.

[gleaming thicket]

when is the next dlc?

[fading walrus]

Sometime at the end of this year

[fresh cedar]

I wouldn’t bet on a patch being soon. They all go on vacation in summer so any progress will grind to a halt. Fall-Spring is when these things really occur

I wouldn’t really expect them till late August and for updates/dlc they said Q3

[hexed mango]

Still no dev diary

[wary spade]

random shi jumpscare

[wise oxide]

salt in injury every time random news hoifalen😓 too lazy to spell

atleast some little info about next dlc would be fun feed us small things but more often bruh

[fresh cedar]

How are they gonna do that if they’re on vacation 😂

[wise oxide]

just tell stuff on discord sometimes

[fresh cedar]

I think sales and events are a means of engaging with their customers and keeping them interested

But updates are always slow in the summer especially July

[wise oxide]

most fans have it all already

[tardy raven]

um, why no dlc new in more then a month

[fresh cedar]

IK. I have every dlc and like 6k hours. I want updates too but it’s been this way for years. Scandinavian people have long summer breaks

[wise oxide]

i started playing hoi just before NSB was released so im fairly new

[fresh cedar]

So like Fall, Winter and Spring generally get major DLC on a quarterly basis. Summer is typically extremely slow and a planning period for them.

In large part bc many of them are legit on vacation so progress halts

Though they said they’d offset this and quarterly updates with community driven dlc, such as the Soviet reskin.

[solid gyro]

USA Japan Siam Updated Raj Phillipines Malaysia Indonesia

That’s the pacific rework

Raj is the only one I’m unsure about

[tacit sequoia]

You forget French Indochina

[hallow pivot]

What DLC I have to buy for spy thing?

I though intelligence agency was free 😦

[prisma breach]

La Resistance

[solid gyro]

Doesn’t need a tree

[tacit sequoia]

yeah it does

[solid gyro]

Paradox probably won’t prioritise it though

[tacit sequoia]

ya sure about that?

[solid gyro]

Depends if they ever want to create a new start date or allow more after 1945

[solid gyro]

I would like a 1933 and 1941 start

I think 1941 is the most likely

Considering you can use available content

1933 would require new stuff

[solid gyro]

That’s true I think 1933 would be really interesting. Personally I love the political side of Hoi4 and I feel like that can be expanded on heavily with a 33 start date

[hexed mango]

Dev diary today?

[tacit sequoia]

Nope, wait another 2 weeks

[outer comet]

yall why when i want to join server id multiplayer my game crashes?

[polar jasper]

41 or 42 for a start date probably, nothing before 36

But most of the fun in hoi is the build up and then executing your plan

[calm bramble]

It's been almost 1 and a half months

I can't take this anymore 😭

Nothing ever happens

[mental onyx]

Surely if they finished the update last month, they would have just released it right? Unless they are not finished yet because the patch is big. I have faith that the devs didn't just work slow last month.

[hexed mango]

So much this...

It's over

[fading walrus]

According to my calculations the first Dev diary will be in August

[hexed mango]

What day of august

Do more calculations sir

[fading walrus]

Q3 is July to September

[fading walrus]

Mid August

Thats going by the median

[hexed mango]

Grrrr

Angy

[fading walrus]

At least its not September

[hexed mango]

What if it is

The horror

[fading walrus]

Then im wrong

[hexed mango]

Very scared

[fading walrus]

I talked to my dad about what options Germany is going to have

My dad is very into wwii

I believe we are going to get 2 communist paths

2 Democratic paths

Maybe 2 or more fascist paths

And the Kaiser path, along with a secret HRE path

Again I could be wrong

[dense gale]

lmfao what

by 1936 nazi rule was alr solidified with zero dissidents

alt hist scenrarios are full larp

literally anything can happen

[fading walrus]

You could say the same about all the other countries

This is also why I think 1933 would have been a better start date

[dense gale]

im just saying how into ww2 dont matter

since paradox devs can make up whatever scenarios they feel like

[fading walrus]

Anyways I got the most ambitious hoi4 overhaul project of all time, 1919 - 1949 overhaul mod

[fading walrus]

Thats true for eu4 as well

Like Byzantium surviving into the 1820’s

From its position in 1444

Byzantium if it survived at best would just been Greece with Gallipoli, Constantinople and Adrianople (Erdine)

And that’s assuming that the Eastern Europeans at Varna won @dense gale

But eu4 takes place exactly one day after Varna

At least its not changing ideologies like in hoi4

And you made me play as Byzantium again

[solid gyro]

i would predict the following

4 fascist paths

1 for Hitler

1 for Himler SS

1 for Rommel

or wehrmacht

and then 1 additional one for like Hermann goring or something

[muted fjord]

Too controversial

[solid gyro]

why hitler already is controversial enough

[fading walrus]

Agreed

[muted fjord]

If they add that they might aswell readd pearl harbor

[fading walrus]

What does that mean?

[muted fjord]

Pear harbor should exist ingame

[solid gyro]

anyway 2 democratic paths 1 with Adenauer and 1 Where hitler and the nazis allow opposition parties

[fading walrus]

Ah true

[solid gyro]

2 monarchist paths

[muted fjord]

They are just blatantly ignoring a major event in ww2

[solid gyro]

1 with wilhelm

and 1 where germany splits up into a uniion

[fading walrus]

I thought you meant a book on it or something

[solid gyro]

and a communist eu formable path

[muted fjord]

Oh no

Not read

Re-add

Cuz it did exist before

[polar jasper]

I personally wanted historical under hitler
Goring where he tries to get the west to gang up on the Soviets
Himmler where it is just hard mode as none of the Allies will appease you.
Whermacht would be non aligned instead of fascist. This is due to the other 2 stepping in if Hitler falls from power while Whermacht is a new choice when opposing hitler

[solid gyro]

i would like to see a spy centred path for germany where instead of being aggresive they use the spy system to boost friendly government party popularity and then they will accept their demands

like maybe if germany boost party popularity enough in austria the austrians will willingly ask to join germany in czechslovakia sudetenland etc.

[scenic bay]

Does anyone want to play a strategy game, please chat with me privately and let's play together

[tacit sequoia]

You forget strasser path

[polar jasper]

This is not good for those who do not have La Resistance

[tacit sequoia]

here's true question, who doesn't have la resistance after 4-5 years?

[solid gyro]

the P2P players in question

[tacit sequoia]

rip

[scenic bay]

I also played another game. If you guys like strategy games, I think we can play them together.

[polar jasper]

New players?
People with tight budgets?
People who don't care about Intel agencies, France, Spain, or Portugal or think it isn't worth $10-$20?

[tacit sequoia]

damn

[solid gyro]

spain and france alone is worth the money, portugal and the spies are just a fun extra

[polar jasper]

The only thing good about la resistance imo is collab governments and blueprint stealing

France alt hsitory is mediocre

Spain is pain

Portugal exists

[marsh chasm]

portugal isn't that bad

maybe It isn't the perfect nation, but sure there are other and more mediocre focus trees

[solid gyro]

such as every together for victory focus tree

theyll have to redo australia and nz in a pacific expansion

[marsh chasm]

or switzerland

[solid gyro]

swiss isnt too bad

you just cant be aggresive

tgv is literally a default tree

with a few extra buffs and 1 wargoal or demand territory

[marsh chasm]

it's atrocius that you have to switch the side of the balance for the most important focuses

[solid gyro]

that is annoying

[marsh chasm]

ironically i had more fun with Australia than switzerland

[solid gyro]

idk australia is in more need of a rework

after india

and then the DOD nations

especially hungary

definitely lacking

[marsh chasm]

i think that the DOD nation that needs a rework First Is Czechoslovakia. Hungary really needs a rework but the czech tree lacks of personality, all the icons are even the same

[solid gyro]

i think both will happen in the upcoming dlc

[hexed mango]

Romania needs reworking the most

(Real)

[solid gyro]

ireland 🙏

[hexed mango]

ROMANIA

https://tenor.com/view/romania-gif-scream-if-you-love-brock-lesnar-loves-brock-lesnar-gif-8607013991961401757

[solid gyro]

nobody wants to play that boring country

[hexed mango]

Yes, that's why it needs rework

[solid gyro]

its sucks it got a rework in rt56 still is a shit nation

[hexed mango]

Cope

Bro is a weezer fan

So ovr

[solid gyro]

you dont know what coping means

[hexed mango]

So ovr bro

Don't even talk to me

[solid gyro]

yeah why wouldnt i be i listen to good music duhh

[hexed mango]

Okay go listen to weezer

Real men be discussing here

[solid gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[hexed mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nerd-edit-gif-23724766

[solid gyro]

cornball

[exotic kelp]

who wants to see a UPDATE that adds NEW RL units and templates

[misty plume]

Facts

[fading walrus]

Ive listened to weezer and they are meh

Too mellow for my tastes

[polar jasper]

Well, you can design them...

They suck

There is this one YouTuber who has done many countries with historically accurate templates and most of the time, it is pain

[dull maple]

guys, does the sale end on the 22nd or 25th?

on items is says 25th but tacticon sale says in 12 hours

[solid gyro]

Sales end on the 25th

[queen tusk]

it should be free anyway

🧌

[molten vault]

Austria focus tree when

[fresh cedar]

Propaganda update for majors when

[sharp knot]

Unfourunate news today at 3:51 CEST. xioaje got addicted

[bitter edge]

turkey focus rework when (is a literal clusterfuck)

[little hedge]

germnay needs more imo

they dont even have a real army focus branch

[bitter edge]

real

[hexed mango]

Where dev diary

[desert cape]

I feel like Japan and SEA (primarily siam & the philippines) needs the focus trees the most rn

[fresh cedar]

They’re on summer break

[hexed mango]

until when

[fresh cedar]

Hopefully never. Pretty much every other country and territory in the game should get one before that.

[hexed mango]

factual...

[fresh cedar]

I believe August, though progress doesn’t tend to really show till September. Fall-Spring is when the team typically does the most and summer the least.

[hexed mango]

they didn't do anything this spring doe

[fresh cedar]

Didn’t the South American DLC come out? As well as a few war patch updates

[hexed mango]

it was done by the 2nd team

lol

that was the whole point

[fresh cedar]

I think them reworking nukes/super weapons must be really big

[hexed mango]

so no, since AAT got out there wasn't anything

[fresh cedar]

No Step Back took them ages too

[fresh cedar]

I think they’re just focusing on the Q3 DLC tbh

[hexed mango]

q3?

[fresh cedar]

NSB had a similar timeframe

Quarter 3, every company operates on quarterly basis for planning

[hexed mango]

look, I just want dev diaries or else I'll cry like a baby

[polar jasper]

I'm still pretty sure it is a research revamp with the new DLC

Not just wunderwaffe

[fresh cedar]

Mhm

Most likely is reworking how wars and peace deals work since nukes were instrumental towards that

[polar jasper]

No, I don't think so

Peace deals were reworked with by blood alone

Which is still pretty new

Do you know how awful pre bba peace deals were?

[fresh cedar]

Yes

Yet the border gore is still terrible

[polar jasper]

Maybe a few ai tweaks and the peace deals should be fine

European peace deals usually turn out fine because of Yalta

Maybe one is needed for Japan

[fresh cedar]

I could see nukes being more impactful to stability/war support and give debuffs though

Africa/Japan need a Yalta equivalent

[polar jasper]

It already gives like -30% war support when one is dropped

[fresh cedar]

I Moreso mean state effects, and a similar stability drift as what war support has with combat casualties

[polar jasper]

Having the infrastructure and buildings getting very damaged is not enough?

[fresh cedar]

Not really no

Realistically it would delete factories and debuff the state for 3-5 years.

Similar to how Brazil had the undeveloped regions

[solid gyro]

I'm pretty sure they automatically set a nation to cap when at 50%

[scenic bay]

Who wants to play strategy games with me, create our team, play games together, chat privately, make friends?

[dense gale]

No not really

Nukes from the ww2 era wasnt really as effective as conventional bombing

The firebombing of tokyo and bombing of dresden shows that

What the nuke did was show that America possessed a weapon that could wipe out a city with one bomb

Instead of days of bombing raid

[dense gale]

The nuclear bomb could be said was a weapon of fear to pressurize the japanese government to surrender

[fresh cedar]

Depends on the bomb in question. Since the game goes till 1948, the nukes really need scaling. Starting as strategic bombing and working up to greater ones which debuff/delete.

[hollow coyote]

Nukes honestly still arent that insane. Theyre just scary because of the fallout, that's really it

They destroy entire cities and take out a bunch of people on impact, that's a scary part

But that can happen in warfare either way

and nukes can be intercepted

[fresh cedar]

If we have flooding from dams in the game. So should the impact of nuclear weapons. I don’t mean by deleting population in states. But need some sort of impact of a state

[hollow coyote]

the only real major major issue of nukes is the fallout radiation

thats the only actual issue

nuclear winter

[fresh cedar]

Like the game has the ability to flood areas or scorch earth areas.

[hollow coyote]

yeah

[fresh cedar]

I just would like to see a similar mechanic used with nukes

Currently I only use them late game to soften up enemy frontlines. Nothing more

When in reality it should be less for direct combat and Moreso for impacting/cooercing a nation

[fresh cedar]

Which isn’t really represented in game remotely. Strategic bombing in general needs depth and flavor

[sour sonnet]

Then why do countries not capitulate when I nuke them

Earlier today I was doing a fascist Sweden run in the Axis

Germany capitulated Denmark and they got left with the Faroe Islands and a small naval base in the Baltic Sea

I nuked the small naval base and they didn’t capitulate a second time

[fresh cedar]

Because nukes are mostly pointless atm.

[sour sonnet]

Exactly, only useful for achievements

[fresh cedar]

Plus that person said nukes could only be used for diplomatic reasons. When Douglass McArthur wanted to use them to both vaporize the PRC army and deter future attacks with ambient radiation

[sour sonnet]

Douglas MacArthur was just mentally insane, no surprises there

[tacit sequoia]

Well yk what they say

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-chapelle-modern-solutions-gif-15497728

[fresh cedar]

Just like most Paradox players

[woeful oasis]

So any new information about the DLC?

[scenic bay]

Who wants to play strategy games with me, create our team, play games together, chat privately, make friends?

[flat walrus]

good question

[hallow pivot]

Can anyone send me the original cold war iron curtain mod from Steam?

[restive tusk]

i haven't played hoi4 super actively since BBA came out, so i dont have the DLCs for Arms Against Tyranny or Trial of Allegiance. do you think they're worth it to pick up? are there any features i'd be massively missing out on?

i guess the intl market is in AAT right? i don't care about that too much but yknow

[polar jasper]

Military Industrial Organizations are epic as you don't have to spend 150 political power to get a designer, but you have to build them up to your choosing

Special forces doctrine is busted

International market is useful

Nordic trees can be quite powerful

[restive tusk]

ty :) some of that sounds cool, i'll for sure think about it the next time there's a sale i guess

[tacit sequoia]

there's a sale going on rn

[molten vault]

No DLC trailer yet

https://tenor.com/view/mario-mario-depressed-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-depressed-gif-6943075901738095231

when paradox, when?

[muted fjord]

Late 2029 - Early 2030 i believe

[solid gyro]

No because they reduce a nations cap limit to 50%

So they're basically worth investing to make killing the Soviets or Germans much easier as a democracy

Cause you don't get a collab government operation

[jovial furnace]

When does the sale end?

The tacticon

[native plinth]

2114 I believe to commemorate 100 years of Germany winning the 2014 World Cup

[tender bough]

When will we get stupid dev diary or more info on the germany rework?!

[solid gyro]

Today

At 7 pm (gmt +1)

[solid gyro]

Probably next month or so cause i think they are still on vacation

I could be wrong though

[fickle sedge]

July is indeed vacation month

[solid gyro]

PDX devs get a month of vacation?

God damn

[lunar folio]

That's moreso just because Sweden has reasonable labour laws

[hexed mango]

I say we threaten with civil war

[fresh cedar]

Yeah, they’re Scandinavian. Thats pretty standard for that region, if not longer vacations

[solid gyro]

Certified Europe moment 🇪🇺

God bless

[molten vault]

We should force paradox employees to work overtime and lock then in the basement with no food

[polar jasper]

They would then die and there would be no content because people need food to function

[sonic veldt]

Have you seen what Scandinavians eat? I don't think not eating anything at all is a health risk over there.

[molten vault]

Food is optional

[digital marsh]

why

why would you do this

to me

[solid gyro]

Yes

That’s a good idea

But it won’t work

Considering

We have no one with power

Every single time I get pinged in hoi4 news I thinks it’s a dev diary

Turns out to be a hoi4 challenge

[quartz sentinel]

[tacit chasm]

I have a question that PlayStation owners are asking. Will the Hearts of Iron game be available soon? We hope for a non-disappointing answer.

[stable tusk]

You want to play Hoi4, on a console?

[tacit chasm]

Yes

[tacit chasm]

Do you have any idea ?

[stable tusk]

That will be hell

Also no

I don't have an idea

But the answer is probably no

[tacit chasm]

Does the game need high specifications to run?

[stable tusk]

No, but the main thing is that you basically need a mouse to play without it being basically torture

Also the hotkeys wouldn't work on console

[tacit chasm]

You can connect those things to the console and there are games that were on the computer and are now on the console.

[stable tusk]

Oh so you want it on the Playstation Store

[tacit chasm]

Like mount&blade if you know it

[tacit chasm]

Yes

[stable tusk]

Yeah I have no idea, right now it's only available on Steam

[tacit chasm]

Thank you for your time and help 🌹

[stable tusk]

Np

But I kinda wish I knew the answer so I could tell you

[tacit chasm]

That's very kind of you, good bye

[stable tusk]

This looks like a scam
Wonder which mods are online?
@jaunty nymph

[chilly drum]

What are they scamming us for even?

[jaunty nymph]

wtf

[stable tusk]

Money and they say they give you more money

[jaunty nymph]

oh "give money receive money" LMAO

[stable tusk]

But they run away

[jaunty nymph]

lemme do mod stuff rq gang hollup

[chilly drum]

Yeah, I noticed right away, but I was unsure since its so stupid.

[stable tusk]

Thank you my favourite Buddhist Lesbian

[jaunty nymph]

no problem my favorite Canadian Chicken

[chilly drum]

There is a bar joke hiding somewhere.

[tender bough]

indeed...

[stable tusk]

I already made one
Shy didn't get it

[chilly drum]

Took me a minute too.

Thank you for waking me up.

[jaunty nymph]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

exposing my ass bruh 😭

[jolly bluff]

You know something I’d like to see once we get a nuke rework? An event for a nuclear test.

Just that, could be that once you finish researching the atomic bomb (or you click through some decisions as it could be because they will be reworked) your camera pans to an area in your country where a test could take place. Then an atomic bomb explodes there with an event calling the test a success.

[tacit sequoia]

Accurate lmao

[drowsy perch]

do i have to go to the forum to submit a bug report?

[solid gyro]

Mhm

[hollow lion]

Yeh

[latent gyro]

Yo I heard somthing about a Germany rework, is this true?

[hollow lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6SVE_A-aeE

[golden rose]

Redditors being detectives: RK Finland

Is this true

[sonic veldt]

Also "State of Jazz"?

Jazz update

[pseudo wing]

There is no planned console release, no.

[wise oxide]

this stuff is so small it might come in a war effort update

[solid gyro]

a ww2 mount and blade would be epic

like hoi4 and mount and blade should have a crossover

[polar jasper]

I'm still trying to figure out how they could rework nukes.

I am very certain it is a research revamp more than nukes getting changed. Nukes already do a lot of damage and making them stronger would probably be way too busted.

Or they make a nuclear winter mechanic and everyone suffers after a ton of nukes go flying to force people not to have nukes go flying for no reason

[solid gyro]

Would also be cool if it gets a fallout effect like if you nuke to much the map changes but that prob wont happen

[muted fjord]

I mean atm the only thing they really do is tank org of/kill the divs in a tile and remove/destroy/damage railways, infrastructure, mils,...

Which is already a bit but imo they should be treated more as a war ending element rather than just a generic bomb

[polar jasper]

I wish it was too, but game balance could be a massive issue

[dapper creek]

y.. you're joking right?
mate i own a ps4 and lemme ask u now, how the HELL would hoi4 work on ps4?

[polar jasper]

People are desperate for console ports without thinking of the gameplay logistics

How are you supposed to micro, or even press 100 buttons

[dapper creek]

u cant

and the game would be realllly slow
even if they added a cursor u can move with the joysticks

movement i can understand, left joystick for cursor, right joystick for map, L2 and R2 to zoom, everything else does not english

[muted fjord]

I mean by the time you acquire nukes u pretty mich have already beaten the game

[thick edge]

Did the German rework come out yet

[polar jasper]

Yeah, with Waking the TIger

You mean a 2nd German rework? Not yet

[thick edge]

How does that dlc give us that

Elaborate

[stable tusk]

Waking the Tiger was integrated with the base game

[thick edge]

I bought the dlc?

Do I get a refund?

[stable tusk]

No

Unfortunalty

[thick edge]

Plug

Wtf paradox

[stable tusk]

Technically, the refunds are managed by Steam

[thick edge]

But

How does waking the tiger

Effect

Germany

My brain is fried

[chilly drum]

Release Germany tree was different

It got changed with dlc, not sure how exactly

[polar jasper]

Waking the Tiger gave Germany alt-history and reworked its OG focus tree

Because it wasn't just a China DLC, it was also somewhat a monarchist DLC

As it also gave Japan its monarchist tree

[thick edge]

Ohhhhhh

[shell island]

What version are we on lol

[bleak wave]

Yes

[solid gyro]

nukes werent powerful enough back the

[solid gyro]

no democratic or monarchist path and hitler path didnt have the focus (trade agreement with sweden)

[marsh chasm]

if they rework asian nations, they should make a DLC for china reworking the three main chinese countries and a Little bit of personality for the warlords. Then a DLC reworking japan and adding trees for Siam, philippines and Dutch east Indies

[jolly bluff]

Personally I think Siam’s focus tree should be free much like Finland’s tree. French Indochina should also be a playable nation on its own similar to Road to 56 due to the Franco-Thai War.

Speaking of which, the states in the Indochina region should also be reworked to make the war even possible in the first place.

[marsh chasm]

i like this idea

but im not sure about playable indochina

[jolly bluff]

Nah I think it could work. The Franco-Thai War doesn’t have to have so much depth either. The war ended pretty quickly once the Thai advance slowed down. The Japanese, out of fear of losing a potential ally in the region should the French launch a counter-attack, mediated a peace and Thailand got a few territories which it still owns to this day. Thailand, similarly to Bulgaria was one of the few Axis nations to end the war with more territory than it started it with.

[marsh chasm]

well, if you put like this It could work

asia lacks of strong content

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, it doesn’t have to be anything too crazy, I’d just find it a bit unfortunate because it’s an interesting war nonetheless. I’m from Latin America and I decided to read up more on the Peruvian-Ecuadorean War of 1941. The war was much more bloodier than depicted in game. The war lasted 6 months if I can remember it off the top of my head.

The war was still a disaster for the Ecuadoreans with more than 1000 dead and injured.

[jolly bluff]

Yeah searched it up, the war lasted only 4-5 months.

[marsh chasm]

a small event for another south america dlc

with Columbia Venezuela and Peru

[jolly bluff]

You know, I like HOI4 but I’ve never really liked the way Paradox sells the game with DLCs.

Not because I find it expensive, I can afford it. I simply don’t like it because it ends up making it so that the DLCs can’t always work together well with each other.

[tacit sequoia]

I hope they make the current dlc as good of a dlc as no step back was

[marsh chasm]

i think they are doing so, germany Is not only a nation but THE nation. Big content Is surely on the Horizon

[jolly bluff]

Absolutely, the best part is they already have a lot to work with which can be translated well into an overhauled Germany tree.

Similar to the Soviet tree’s “Desperate Measures” branch they can add a “Total War” branch like RT56.

[marsh chasm]

they should do like Italy, an alternative fascist path with a different leader, like Goebbels

[tacit sequoia]

I’m hoping also it’s Germany Czechoslovakia Hungary, with a paired new tree of Belgium and Luxembourg, and brand new tree for Austria similar to Switzerland but more improved with Habsburg and Civil War paths (yes Austria had civil wars)

[jolly bluff]

It could help the game no longer end by 1943 because the AI cannot handle the crippling state of the Wehrmacht by then.

[tacit sequoia]

Germany during Barbarossa is too op lol

[jolly bluff]

Yeah but once their lines are broken, Berlin falls by 1943-44.

Once took Berlin as the Dutch without a significant fight lol.

[marsh chasm]

maybe a rework to the weather system could work

[jolly bluff]

What could be done is an improvement to Germany’s AI already present in AIs like that of World Ablaze. Have it prioritise the defence of Berlin by establishing a defensive perimeter along the city with what little it has once the Soviets or the western Allies push that far into Germany.

[jolly bluff]

Speaking of Italy, Germany should also be able to have its own militia divisions. The AI could use these Volkssturm divisions (if it got improved) to hold the Allies or Soviets back for a while, while the regular army retreats and entrenches itself.

[marsh chasm]

i want an achievment like "Steiner attack worked" where as nazi germany you hold berlin in defense For likes 50 days

[marsh chasm]

you only understand this if you saw Downfall/Knew about operation Clausewitz and Hitler's last orders

[jolly bluff]

Everybody except (insert those three generals of which I can only remember Keitel and Krebs off the top of my head) please leave the room.

[marsh chasm]

proceeds to give one of Hitler's most iconic performance in media history

[jolly bluff]

Another thing I’d like to see, though this is more of a pet peeve of mine is to give a few research bonuses to the “Bypass the Maginot in the South” if it’s still in the overhauled tree.

Could be some research bonuses to artillery and strategic bombers to help with destroying the Swiss forts before attacking through the mountainous country. Speaking of which, could also give some research bonuses to Mountaineers similarly to the boosts to the naval invasion tech (landing craft, amphibious tanks and amtracs) from the Operation Weserübung focus.

[hollow idol]

Expect another trailer next month

Followed by a release in october

[hollow lion]

Theyve usually done insight posts into DLC features

So based on how big you expect the DLC to be, you could guess how many posts they need maybe

[hollow idol]

I mean we knew it wasnt gonna be July

Cause their vacation

And the DLC probably isnt finished yet

Itll probably be finished by late October

And then dropped late october

While hints are tossed out throughout

Im just giving a educated guess

[hollow lion]

[tacit sequoia]

Id expect it to be as big as no step back, hell even bigger

[hollow lion]

Everyone thinks its about Germany, so realistically who could they still do a tree for in that region

Germany, Belgium, Austria, secret Luxembourgh?

[harsh hull]

Hyperbavaria

[hollow lion]

Femboyvaria

😱

Who wants to bet there will be a focus or decision that releases Bavaria (joke)

[tacit sequoia]

You forget Czechoslovakia and Hungary also

If you’re doing pan germanism, you cannot forget Hungary (burgenland) or Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland)

[hollow lion]

Oh yeh their DLC were integrated

[tacit sequoia]

Plus the Hungarian and Czechoslovakia tree are so old, they need the rework, alongside Romania and Germany too

Tbf there should be addon to Yugoslavia for partisan units similar to Poland in WW2

[hollow lion]

Itd be far too easy to beat them in HOI

Or you buff the hell out of them which isnt fun either

[tacit sequoia]

true

Tbf

This is going to be big DLC

Though no idea of who’s getting what

[hollow lion]

I hope they dont carry over flaws from previous DLC

Like alt-hist paths where you shoot yourself in the foot a bit too much, for little reward

[muted fjord]

Or a turkey focus tree

[hollow coyote]

all jokes aside a bavaria dlc focus tree would be super fun

I feel like there needs to be more UK and French content too

but then again I just mod the game for that rlly. the dlc is moreso just because I wanna support the development of the game

otherwise, the DLCs are very bland and barebones, which always kind of upset me

but thats just my opinion

besides waking the tiger, only fun dlc

[robust herald]

is this newspaper new or?

im playing base game hoi4 with no mods

[hexed mango]

since czechoslovakia got integrated I believe it would fit in rly well with a german rework and austrian focus tree

[hollow lion]

I think a Balkan DLC 2.0 would be nicer

[hexed mango]

czechoslovakia is not balkan tho

a 3 nation contry pack for yugo, romania and hungary would make better sense

all 3 deserve in depth reworks that are at least 70% of polands size

yugo needs small resistance paths representing the partisans and the chetniks, as well as small focus tree for croatia and MAYBE a serbian national salvation government colab focus tree with like 8-12 focuses

romania needs representation for PNT and PNL, paths for the iron guard and PNC, as well as crusade for romanianism, path for historical stuff with antonescu and the legionary revolts, path for the king and maybe even for michael maybe for some post war shenanigans and paths for PNP and PCR ig

[jolly bluff]

True, and PLEASE for the love of God I need Paradox to 1. add an event similar to that of Black Ice where as Germany or Italy you partition Yugoslavia into the puppet states and occupation zones that it was partitioned into after invading and 2. make it so that on historical the Yugoslav SFR controls Yugoslavia by war's end.

Tbf tho the vast majority of Cold War content needs to be reworked.

Hell there was a whole DLC dedicated to Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey yet no sign of a Greek Civil War.

[paper estuary]

How about a monarchist democracy path in which Bavaria starts a civil war against the Reich, with the support of democratic nations: if Bavaria wins, a democratic Kingdom of Germany will be formed and have Rupprecht of Wittlesbach as king, maybe focused on developing the south of Germany (possibly even moving the capital to Munich)

[tight blaze]

its a world war 2 game, there are mods for the cold war

[jolly bluff]

Yeah I know, I just think it'd be a neat little addition.

Hell maybe just add an event which gives the player (if they're playing as either the USA, UK or USSR) the option to have the proper post-war borders.

[arctic glacier]

Finally stopped Germany

[solid gyro]

I havent seen this before

[hexed mango]

No, so tired of monarchist paths that have nothing to do with ww2

[tacit sequoia]

Nah we keeping monarchist paths

plus it gives alternative history flavors

I’m sorta waiting for a second German revolution for communist path of Germany in the new DLC

[muted fjord]

I believe so, the normal one is a picture of the german reichstag if im not wrong

[solid gyro]

if theres yugo we need independent state of croatia focus tree

cuz the croatians were worse than the nazis

when it came to atrosicites

they literally turned serbs into soap

[tacit sequoia]

Yeah, Japanese were worse than both

[warm dirge]

I agree with a focus tree for Croatia. They played a role in South Europe not a big but something that should earn a Focus tree

[warm dirge]

Nah that's also a lot of propaganda shouted Out in the world from Josip Broz Tito.

[solid gyro]

anyways itll be interesting which direction the devs go in theyll probably do germany austria czechs/slovakia and hungary but then theyll have to chose between either yugo/croatia or belgium/lux

[hexed mango]

no, those can come after everything that's historical and alt history regarding the main ideology as well as "plausible" democratic and communist paths are fully fleshed out, I don't want some meme separatist kingdom of bavaria larp with some 9th century dinasty heir path at the expense of alt fascist paths, strasserist and SS paths, wermacht path, alternative hitler stuff with different molotov-ribbentrop agreements, a berlin-moskow axis subbranch, more reichskomissariats and reichsprotektorats and post war focuses

[halcyon glade]

when are we getting a middle eastern update? There is so much history in these areas it would make great content... especially with palestine/isreal area

[hexed mango]

no, palestine israel no so much, lole, a tag for egypt with a focus tree? yes, iraq, iran, saudia arabia, afghanistan? also yes very much, palestine/israel are not THAT relevant during that timeframe

[misty rover]

reminds me of my recent soviet game, germans broke the dnieper river line, took all of ukraine, belarus, the baltics, almost sieged leningrad, 2 tiles away from stalingrad and took moscow

luckily their supply lines were so limited and i built my military factories behind the urals i managed to hold on

[hollow coral]

My idea for a germany rework tree would be seperated into 3 sides. The first focus would be rhineland and continue with 3 mutual focuses
Rally the monarchists
Revival of the weimar
Continue Rearmament

The rally the monarchist will let you slowly build up oro monarchist sentiment such as inviting back wilhelm or sabotaging fascist infrastructure and such

continue the weimar can let you choose between a communist uprising or a democratic uprising

monarchist path could be the current monarchist path or revival of the hre by inviting a habsburg prince

communist route could allow you to support the spanish left and make a deal with the soviet union to split poland.

current democratic path kinda ruins games for m but it could be something like forming the eu by inviting countries to be integrated

Def not gonna be added but fun thought

[jolly bluff]

Something I’d like to see for an overhauled Imperial Germany path is to give the German Empire a focus similar to that of the Reichskommissariats. Allowing Germany to form the puppet states it did after the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was signed in 1918.

[jolly bluff]

Just some food for thought. It would be nice to have the invasion of the USSR as democratic Germany not only be about toppling the Soviet government, but also be about both liberating some European minorities from the Soviet Union

[solid gyro]

i want a fully fleshed out communist tree with multiple options

for leaders

[jolly bluff]

For example during the invasion say if you increased resistance through decisions or spies in a country like Ukraine you get an event saying “Ukrainian nationalists offer support.” If you accept their support you get a few militia units that don’t have the best stats except when on Ukrainian core territory, you also get a Ukrainian general to lead them and a massive buff to compliance in Ukraine and war support. Basically, the people in the area won’t see you as just another invader ready to subjugate them.

Prob won’t get added either but could be cool.

[hollow coral]

Maybe but the current one that lets you ally with every organism in the milkyway

It kinda just ruins the game when one alliance destroys any nation

[hollow coral]

Interesting

But honestly i hate it that germany dictates anything i do

[jolly bluff]

True, I don’t think that the Western European nations should ally themselves to Germany as they aren’t under direct threat from the Soviet Union.

[severe compass]

Any news on the next DLC?

[hollow coral]

And the ally thing is basically the only thing the democratic path does

[hollow coral]

Idk man

[jolly bluff]

Not to mention that a propaganda campaign that lasts 70 days isn’t going to make everyone in Western Europe forget about Germany’s blatant expansionism just two decades prior.

[hollow coral]

Last update was from the teaser

[severe compass]

Got it, thanks.

[hollow coral]

Even for ahistorical its pretty unbelievable

[jolly bluff]

Yeah the Central European Alliance should really just be limited to parts of Central Europe and the majority of Eastern Europe.

[hollow coral]

Mhm

The opposition path doesnt allow much freedom cuz basically its either redo ww1 or annihilate the soviet union

[jolly bluff]

True, I think the democratic path could work well for Germany in an alternate history Cold War scenario.

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[jolly bluff]

Like the Soviet Union doesn’t get annihilated, so now Germany, much like the US constantly intervenes in civil wars and other countries’ internal politics to stop the advance of communism.

Hell you could also make Germany extremely interventionist and willing to mess with world peace just to spite the Soviets to spice it up a little.

[hollow coral]

Its a major problem of just germany or any other major just creating 600+ units making it basically undefeatable

[hollow coral]

Could be an alternate democratic path too

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, but that’s just post-war content really needing to be reworked in general.

[hollow coral]

Post war is rlly dry

There could be something like historical only focuses

[jolly bluff]

Rarely if ever do armies demobilise which is what should happen. The AI, now no longer under direct threat demobilises the vast majority of its army and instead focuses on creating more quality units.

True, maybe something like focuses that reduce world tension like those in RT56.

[hollow coral]

Like after 45 you get historical focuses

[hollow coral]

Yeh

[jolly bluff]

Yeah, the devs don’t need to make anything too crazy either, the game can just end by 48 as the vast majority of tech does.

Gives you a few 3 more years to do some stuff that isn’t just finishing up a world conquest.

[hollow coral]

I think thats a main problem of rt56 cuz they add stuff like shock troopers and jaegers that maybe just me never use

[quasi juniper]

If the AI would demobilise and the player isn't forced to, doesn't that just make the game even easier?

[hollow coral]

I think the game focuses a lot on wars which is fair it is a grand strategy game but i wish i didnt need to fight as much

I would rather have more diplomacy

And maybe using the border conflict more rather then straight wars

[quasi juniper]

Then the player would also have to be forced to demob for balancing, and this aint fun for a player who just built a cool army to suddenly have to delete it

[hollow coral]

And the conditional surrender mechanic is basically inexistant

[hollow coral]

Maybe just like an army limit

I hate when germany has 600 troops

When i have 80 troops

[quasi juniper]

True true, but what would ur cap be

Germanys cap would be higher than yours bc of their industry and recruit pop

So it doesn't rly solve anything

[hollow coral]

Maybe majors would have a bit more than minors

I would say about 2 - 3 mil

[quasi juniper]

Best option would probably be a army nerf in stats as a nat spirt bc the army would become more bloated

[hollow coral]

Actually wait wouldnt make sense

Cuz germany had 13 mil in ww2

Hmmm

Maybe your army concription law could dictate the amount of people you can have in the army

[quasi juniper]

Isn't that already what it does?

Or do you mean in div limits?

[hollow coral]

Div limits

[quasi juniper]

Mil industy × con law then?

[hollow coral]

Crazy

Idk but could make the game harder to learn

Cuz you have to keep in count that too

[quasi juniper]

How much would it even change, bc germany needs alot of divs ngl

[hollow coral]

Hmm

[quasi juniper]

To protect atlantic and soviet front for example

You could do, that later in the game each battalion requires more equipment. Per level of doctrine the requirements would increase, this would be bc the type of warfare becomes more advanced and needs more stuff to be effective.

[hollow coral]

Hmm

[quasi juniper]

Say when you get the modern blitzkrieg level of the mobile warfare doc, you have to have 10 extra tanks per tank battalion so you can do those tactics you just unlocked

[hollow coral]

Idk i rarely use that path

[quasi juniper]

Grand battleplan would require more support equip per inf for extra planning and logi bonuses the doc gives.

[hollow coral]

Could work

[quasi juniper]

Just idea's I guess

[jolly bluff]

Well you don’t have to, the AI can be made to demobilise only if it sees no direct threat to its border or if it’s in a large alliance. This can help a lot with lag as instead of having 5 armies each from different nations from the same alliance manning the Iron Curtain you can have 1 to 2 armies depending on the size of the country.

[jolly bluff]

Yeah or proxy conflicts. I always like Spanish Civil War gameplay as it was almost a pseudo-proxy war where big regional powers (Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and the Soviet Union) tried out their new toys for war.

For example an overhauled Chinese Civil War where the warlords unify with one of the two sides (the Nationalists or Communists) and both sides can receive material aid or even volunteers if you want to add another depth of gameplay to it.

Maybe even a mechanic similar to that of Republican Spain to democratise the Republic of China and get rid of Chiang Kai-shek’s dictatorship should the Nationalists accept too much aid from the Western Allies.

[hollow coral]

China should have more power over some warlords

Some warlords like shanxi and xibei were technically under china but had more freedom

Maybe something like a warlord system where you get all the stuff from those provinces but you dont control it directly

And you build slower in those countries

[jolly bluff]

Exactly, the warlords could for example at the end of a Nationalist victory in the civil war end up on the same faction as the Nationalists’ China with some degree of autonomy (maybe end up like a dominion-type puppet).

[hollow coral]

The chinese countries are just rlly outdated

I would rlly want to see a path like working with the japanese

Where you could annex manchukuo and mengukuo

[jolly bluff]

True, you kinda notice that with every nation that has focus trees mainly consisting of pretty pointless upgrades that take 70 days to finish.

[hollow coral]

Yeh and its pretty focused on historical

I would rlly want to see paths for warlords like reform the beiyang government

Or manchukuos path get extended after getting chinese empire

Manchukuo probably has the most interesting ahistorical chinese path

But you need a lot of luck to pull it off

And everytime ive seen a chinese civil war the communist get wiped out instantly

Not like i see it often

The communists might have a rllybland path

I played it but it doesnt give many cool options

Just historical

And two bland ahis

[marsh chasm]

i tried 4 times to do assertiveness and failed each time in the war, still having more fun than obedience

[solid gyro]

communist china is basically take over china in 3 ways, 1. with the soviets, 2. by yourself 3. using PP

[hollow coral]

honestly i only play maoist

[mental onyx]

Hope we get the war effort patch next week and if we're lucky, maybe even a dev diary.

[lilac coyote]

Real talk with maoist gameplay, lots of sitting and waiting xD

hated that achieve for that

[polar jasper]

I got the mao achievements by turning off waking the tiger when you were still able to

One of the most fun and wacky games I have ever played

[lilac coyote]

Agrarian masses have STOOD UP!*

China achieves are always scary because its always like this one little piece left you couldn't get it or now sits on a warlord in the allies or some dum stuff

[polar jasper]

What warlord, the warlords without Waking the Tiger could automatically annex themselves to either the nationalist or communist governments

Sucks to be unable to turn off the DLC now lol

[hollow coral]

The way i did it was to conquer the northern warlords then destroy china while japan is atacking

It was pretty easy for me

Just throwing troops at them lol

[lilac coyote]

I conquered shanxi and the xinjiang fools

and then waited for opportunity

[hollow coral]

(With some help by soviets)

[lilac coyote]

I was terrified if i recieve any help from soviet it'd invalidate it

[hollow coral]

I still wish there was more alt his for both china and japan

[lilac coyote]

so i refused all

[hollow coral]

I think they just give u the cores

But i play a lot of china

[lilac coyote]

Like all of china as a package

or KMT

[hollow coral]

All

[lilac coyote]

based

qing dynasty was my first big one

and it was so fun

[hollow coral]

Assertiveness is probably the most fun out of all the chinese trees

[lilac coyote]

I literally did as only horsemen with grand battle plan and it worked great

with the psycho cossack adisor

advisor

[hollow coral]

I just wish there was more to the manchukuo path

Like expanding the navy

[lilac coyote]

Oh dude... that was a whole other run for that achievement.. the japan one as manchukoy

i cheesed it hard by getting non historical japan to go commie with luck

and it just gave imperial kwantung and it was simple from there

[hollow coral]

The only time i revived qing was in rt54

Actually twice

Cuz japan went civil war

Then china justified on me

[lilac coyote]

The moment of doing mandate of heaven focus as it lights up, and he turns into Xuantong im like holyyy shiett

[hollow coral]

And then i microed china for a whole 2 hours

[lilac coyote]

I tried to do that as KMT

in siberia

vs allies too

was too stalematey

the last china achieve for me is... battlecry

[hollow coral]

The pnly china achievements in need are qing and suntzu one

[lilac coyote]

Hope that when you do vassalize focus, that all them say yes for ease xD

at that point it turn into supress subjects, build stuff on em send convoys etc

Japan never screw off tho

Korea is always threatened

thankfully fast horsies are solid port guards

[hollow coral]

My normal china gameplay consists of subjugating the warlords then grind exp

[hexed mango]

Dev diary when

[chilly drum]

Attention citizens.

It appears that PDX launcher has a new version.

It means someone got to the office and pushed the button.

Probably.

Im saying that vacation is almost over and we might get something at the end of the week.

[tacit sequoia]

nice

[solid gyro]

I really hope so but ig we will see

[obtuse stratus]

Any dlc news

[solid gyro]

None so far we prob will get something at the end of this week

[fresh cedar]

Summer break, no news till August most likely

[little ore]

Hey guys, can someone help me with something? I saw this ig post by the real hearts of iron account. What is even the last support company ? Like the one in the bottom right

Is it like something on south America from the new dlc ?

[hard smelt]

i think so, but the tier list is not good XD

[obtuse stratus]

Which one

I think it's in arms against tyranny

[calm bramble]

pioneers?

wait that's the one in b tier

jungle pioneers?

[stable tusk]

Jungle's don't have palm trees, these are Desert Pioneers
Or something, idk

[swift mortar]

It’s jungle pioneers

Iirc Brazil gets it

Could be wrong

@little ore ^

[stable tusk]

Why?
Why palm trees?
Makes no sense

[swift mortar]

I think it’s supposed to be a tropical rainforest tree

[quasi juniper]

Usa update would be cool, they need to fix the depression for them

[molten vault]

Give most major countries a rework

They have had the same tree for a long time

e.g. UK, USA, Germany

[quasi juniper]

Uk and USA got extra stuff in MtG that was quite a bit later than WtT for Japan and Ger

[full light]

1. Japan and South East Pacific
2. Uk and Middle East

[dim saffron]

medium flame tank is S tier

[hard smelt]

just like rangers

[floral yoke]

rangers fall of bc of speed penalty. I am not saying that speed is that important though there are better alternatives

[hard smelt]

Ye i prefer stats over speed 👍

[floral yoke]

All the S tier are

• Medflame tanks, AA comp, Engineer, Field.

[floral yoke]

i mean, light tank give more value in stats then rangers

[hard smelt]

Nah

[floral yoke]

what does rangers do full upgraded

[floral yoke]

I have looked at it and Rangers is only better when fighting in Snow areas (left) or mountians areas (right)
but overall Light tanks can preform better and can give better stats (if putting the IC cost in them)

and fighting in mountians with tanks is normally not worth it (reli) with snow it is more worth it though, were you to fight in Western Europe then Light tanks are still superior

• 10% more hard atk to Opponents forgot to add that. You can make the argument that in SP Rangers are superior

[hasty ridge]

If you're Chile or argentina and get the artillery boost focuses and an artillery general...

[floral yoke]

problem is, it only boost lite arty atk and line arty is not good

[hard smelt]

I never said i used arty or tanks

[floral yoke]

are you responding to me?

[hard smelt]

Kinda both

[hasty ridge]

So finland?

[hard smelt]

I mean who sends tanks to mountains

[floral yoke]

there are some that do

[hard smelt]

:/

[hasty ridge]

Chile. Those mountaineers need something that can catch up, be it tanks or artillery trucks

and the org gotta be used for something

[floral yoke]

but then your comment about (i prefer stats over speed kinda doesnt make sense bc inf go 4kmh)

[hard smelt]

Yes XD?

[floral yoke]

well cool

[hard smelt]

Stats over speed

So inf speed is good

[floral yoke]

inf speed is 4, while rangers is capped by 6.4 :/

it doesnt change regardless

[hard smelt]

Idk u assumed i used tanks right?

[floral yoke]

yep

[hard smelt]

All i said is i like rangers XD nothing more or less

[floral yoke]

well, my apologies. Have a good day Mr Jack

[hard smelt]

Np friend , good day to u aswell

[heady quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/withdrawal-hoi4-crazy-guy-hearts-of-iron-4-hearts-of-iron-iv-gif-9037330197093317371

accurate?

[tacit sequoia]

Hopefully we’ll get news today

[chilly drum]

Ill take anything

Even rick roll in a military hat on steam page

Just anything

[tacit sequoia]

Lol

[hexed mango]

Dev diary today?

[hollow coral]

Germany and rest of europe minors (Maybe czech and hungary rework🤑 )

[tacit sequoia]

Wait a bit lad, there might be one

[tacit sequoia]

Well it’s probably the Germanic areas

Germany Austria Belgium Luxembourg, and Hungary + Czechoslovakia

[hollow coral]

fr

o hope they make austria fascist cuz they were in irl

[tacit sequoia]

Let’s just say if you do Germany, you cannot forget about Czechoslovakia or Hungary since their trees haven’t gotten updated 2017

[hollow coral]

ive never played czechoslovakia

and will not until it is updated

[tacit sequoia]

It’s a small bit of a tree with an achievement to beat Germany as them

[hollow coral]

[tacit sequoia]

Yeah lol

[hollow coral]

i still hope germany gets a habsburg path

[tacit sequoia]

That’ll be cursed, but cool

HOI4 mods and devs here, sorry if I break rules for this, but it makes sense for dlc stuff…

[tacit sequoia]

Pre 1945, if you see where most of the blue is located, is where the chance of a DLC nation is

Especially since it’s Germany too

[hollow coral]

doesnt germany get cores on the sudetanland and austria?

[tacit sequoia]

Yep

Should get cores on west Switzerland also

Well East particularly, since France gets west and Italy gets a tiny bit

[hollow coral]

germany should get further appeasement tree rather then just warmonger

could add some spice