latest-updates

[granite thunder]

I think it is gonna be a German Monarcist Rework

[tawdry arch]

i think it's just going to be a germany rework in general

[granite thunder]

yea maybe a Communist tree for Germany

[tawdry arch]

you can already go commie as germany

just without focuses

[granite thunder]

yea i know but with an actual focus tree for Communism

[hollow idol]

Its communist KPD symbol

[tawdry arch]

ewww

[hollow idol]

Thats germanys communist path

[tawdry arch]

communism 🤮 🤮 🤮

[hollow idol]

Coming next update

[paper estuary]

This looks definitely Soviet CP to me

Scythe is just like the Soviet one

All those focuses there are related to the War Effort coming up afaik
And it all looks to be related to Russia

[solid gyro]

It said it's for tmw

You're all wrong

Russia democratic path 😎

Ernst Thälmann got his picture changed, so I’m pretty sure that confirms Germany getting a commie path

[hollow idol]

Nahh the "broken" part is a artist redinition

The soviets had same hammer and sickle

Just not star behind it

[hollow idol]

Correct

[surreal cradle]

its a liechtenstein democracy rework

yall are wrong

[hollow idol]

Dudes arguung for russia so hard

[eternal thicket]

if germany finally gets a rework ill bust

[edgy dagger]

O:

[hollow idol]

current latest launcher- no thailman change pic

beta branch pic

old image

[paper estuary]

I'll take your word for it

[paper estuary]

But I do not see a lion there lol

In any case
Both democratic russian and communist german paths are very much welcome

[hollow idol]

I dont see a guy on a horse

🤌

[paper estuary]

I just can't see anything at all

[solid gyro]

i think this will be an austrian minor tree (like iceland, uruguay/paraguay and aussa) so that Belgium/Luxemoburg, Germany, Hungary and Czechslovakia/Slovakia will be the main vocal points of the update

[solid gyro]

If anything Luxembourg will get the tiny tree, Austria is probably going to be the main Focus

Austria would probably become like Ethiopia

Based on preparing for an invasion or gaining help from Italy, the Democracies, or Russia

[solid gyro]

Very real possibility it's both

After the ToA disaster they may be trying to please the community more

Tbf people were just whiney ToA was fun

[tawdry arch]

i don't have toa

so it's bad

[hollow idol]

Russia is confirmed to get no update this dlc

Which makes me rule out a full german tree update

Probably a minor german tree update

Probably a minor update to czech and slovakia

Belgium and luxemberg might get a full focus
Austria def getting a full tree for defense or for alliance

[tawdry arch]

why would russia lacking a rework to their focus tree make you rule out a full german rework?

[solid gyro]

nah if anything it would be hungary

compared to what hungary did in ww2 their focus is very limite

especially their alt history paths

[solid gyro]

based

[crimson violet]

Lmao otto von bismarck accurate take

[tacit sequoia]

finally

[tacit sequoia]

they already found the original image above, look through chat history

.

[muted fjord]

same

[solid gyro]

.

[orchid atlas]

How cool wouldn’t be if they added Liechtenstein

[solid gyro]

I think there will be two paths, like with Czechoslovakia: One will be collaborationist, making concessions to Germany and eventually becoming it's puppet and the other will be making alliances with Italy and Hungary or France and Britain. The Berechtesgaden meeting and subsequent Anschluss plebiscite will probably be a event when Germany does the Anschluss focus

[hexed mango]

when will dev diaries for dlc start?

[tacit sequoia]

Either today or next week or two

[hexed mango]

don't get my hopes up little dude

if it don't start next week I'm going to CRY like a BABY

[cosmic tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[solid gyro]

doubt it

its not likely

austria historical would end in 1938

and there wasnt puppeting with austria

cuz they were german

[solid gyro]

ehhhh i havent played chile yet and brazil was one time but argentina is fun

[solid gyro]

hungary would be fun especialy historically cuz in March 1944 they were invaded by the Germans so they wouldnt declare peace and Horthy was deposed, then in August there was a coup in favour of horthy and then in october the germans puppeted hungary it could be really fun incorporating this into hoi4

[sudden cipher]

i need my slovakia focus tree

new nuke mechanics can possibly come out ye?

[solid gyro]

that could also work with this dlc maybe like a free france/ vichy france thing

[sudden cipher]

wdym tho they already have a focus tree

[solid gyro]

no for slovakia

like when chezchoslovakia dies

in 1938

slovakia gets a focus tree to maybe reform chzechoslovakia or maintain independence

just in the style of free/vichy france

[lunar folio]

That could be pretty neat. I'd imagine it would be fairly short though

[solid gyro]

true

[obsidian rain]

where is the game distribution

[lunar folio]

The giveaway?

[obsidian rain]

yes

[lunar folio]

#giveaway

[solid gyro]

maybe there could be like 3 diferrent paths, caving to the germans, caving to the hungarians and maintaining independence kinda like the dutch tree

[obsidian rain]

spasibo

[sudden cipher]

we need a serious ToV focus trees rework tho

the only part i found pleasing was communist south africa

[sudden cipher]

yeah tbh

[solid gyro]

dod more important

[solid gyro]

Ethiopia is a playable nation with a focus tree, and so are the Baltics.

Austria has a much more compelling history and series of paths as it was recovering from a short civilwar

Reminder that Ethiopia capitulate sHisyorically ~1937, and historical Baltics would end ~1940

[solid gyro]

true

Historical Czechoslovakia would end ~1938

also true

yeah

but i still think hungary should get a larger focus tree

and more states in that region

I doubt they're touching Hungary

It's probably gonna be like NSB

Where the German Rework/Austria Focus is the poster boy

Belgium and Luxembourg get trees

And probably a Czecho-Slovak rework

Since Luxembour would get a small tree

and hungary too

Ehhh

i think they would be more important

Slovakia itself is a whole tree

then czechs

More people have complained about Czechoslovakia as the worst tree

[solid gyro]

ye but hungary is played more

They're more likely to be re-done since Hungary atleast has the AUH tree

[solid gyro]

even that could be improved tho

some of them are jusrt claims

It could

rather than demands

But at most it'll be smaller things

THOUGH

If the Second Update is a German Socialist Tree

And not a DLC

You could be right

[solid gyro]

doubt it historical germany also needs a rework

too small

only one leader

its only hitler

I mean...

wheres rommel, himmler, goring, donitz, goebells

Hitler was the only one who realistically could've lead the Nazi

Rommel never had the Ambition

Goebells was too loyal to Hitler

Same with Donitz and Himmler

And Goering maybe?

true

Italy atleast had the Grand Council of Fascisn

And the Soviet Union had opposition leaders

Ik pretty sure it'll only be the Socialist Rework

As German tree is pretty fine already

May be wrong tho, we'll see at 9

[solid gyro]

what about a fragmentation/hre path

with prussia

[solid gyro]

what timezone

[solid gyro]

Ehhh, Germany pretty much never fragments

[solid gyro]

EST

[solid gyro]

Infact you can't get it to fragment without the French Focus Tree

[solid gyro]

ok thx thats in an hour or so

Might be 10

[solid gyro]

what if the secodary announcment is austria

i mean the symbol is obviously the double headed eagle

which could refer to either austria or germany

No

People have already looked at it

Seems Russian

[tacit sequoia]

Jeez y’all should look up earlier in chat where they showed the original logo being russian

[solid gyro]

Or someone pointed out it waz

[solid gyro]

Yeah this

[tacit sequoia]

Hell I replied to it lol

[solid gyro]

Kerenksy path 🥺

[solid gyro]

probably

but it would have to be huge

considering

kerenskys role in the russian revoloution

he was the head of the provisional government

Ehhh

[tacit sequoia]

Wait wait wait, it ain’t war effort patch today, that’s Monday

Something else happening today

[solid gyro]

Ngl if they add it it'll basically just be something small slapped onto the end of the beaten but not defeated

It's the secondary announcement

Tomorrow is another giveaway

[blissful pawn]

i am wondering what the "secondary announcement" will be

[sterile tartan]

"we gonna remove hoi4 from steam"

[elder matrix]

The world would heal

[sterile tartan]

until hoi5 drops

[hexed mango]

WHERE SECONDARY ANNOUNCEMENT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-lemon-grab-adventure-time-gif-10257539

[marsh chasm]

Idk

[solid gyro]

My hope is Democratic Russia

Chance is it's also Communist Germany

[sterile tartan]

i hope its a buff for tanna tuva

[solid gyro]

Tanna Tuva is already op what you on about

1 godly factory worth 100 civs and 100 mils each

Quality over quantity

[sterile tartan]

impossible

[solid gyro]

Nope

New content

Leaked only 20 minutes ago

[sterile tartan]

wow

[elder matrix]

God I hope its a germany rework

[blissful pawn]

i checked 8th anniversary article again
seems that today's announcement is a part of war effort patch

[wintry gust]

cant wait for haisenberg's wonder weapon which will make the soviets so amazed they will stop fighting 🔥
nah but fr i would like to see more heisenberg focuses and maybe a new path for marxist germany

[wispy peak]

Honestly I hope Germany, UK, France, Japan and US get reworks in the future. Their trees are old and for a different age of the game so can be quite weak or obnoxious at points.

No more appeasement UK especially is quite annoying 15% tension is quite easy to reach

[frigid kernel]

A minor that needs a rework bad?

Yugoslavia

[solid gyro]

Other way around

[solid gyro]

Czechosolvakia needs it wayyy more

[frigid kernel]

Yeah but Czechoslovakia is less historically significant (gameplay wise) Yugoslavia’s resistance movement was huge

And they give it such a shitty focus tree

[solid gyro]

Oh yeah

Yugoslavia more than any nation deserves an exile tree

[frigid kernel]

Historical Czechoslovakia is literally just die 💀 but I agree it needs a new focus

[solid gyro]

But overall Czech needs it more

[frigid kernel]

Slovak uprising would be cool to see in game tho

[blissful pawn]

PRC CHI and Chinese warlords need a lot rework as well

[mental onyx]

Austria too

[frigid kernel]

This whole game needs a rework

[blissful pawn]

true

[solid gyro]

That's my hope, Germany, Belgium, Luxembourg, Austria and Czech-Slovakia

[frigid kernel]

Mods are cool and all but honestly in my opinion nobody stays as true to the original as the paradox team

[solid gyro]

That's only because they keep outgoing themselves with each DLC

Outdoing*

[frigid kernel]

Eh

AAT was so overhyped

[solid gyro]

True, but the tree works for China's only real gameplay value tbh

[frigid kernel]

I liked the SA dlc tho

Should be cheaper though

[solid gyro]

Ecuador got Fixed ao urs a 10/10

[mental onyx]

Imagine a DLC for Mongolia, Tannu Tuva, and Mengkukuo in the future.

[solid gyro]

Should've been BoB price

Because it's basically the same thing

But Inflation

[frigid kernel]

Yeah

[solid gyro]

Hoi5 never comes out

It's Just DLCs and more Reworks until the end of time

[frigid kernel]

I will literally bust and coom the day Yugo rework comes out

[mental onyx]

The only reason I want HOI5 is to have the game to run in a better game engine.

[frigid kernel]

There’s a lot of optimization to be done

Especially with how by 1941 the game is running at 1 year every two hours on four speed

And how at any point after 1939 the allied ai stack 37 divisions from 8 different countries per tile

[honest crown]

oopsie

[mental onyx]

Speaking of speed, what is everyone's game speed at 1936? I have debug_smooth off and my game runs at 2 seconds per day

It is on 5 speed btw

at 1939 to 1945, it becomes 3 seconds per day

[solid gyro]

More like '42 or '43 eith a better PC

[solid gyro]

could happen

battes of khakalin gol was the reason the ussr didnt attack japan

[quaint rivet]

Yeah, same, exactly

[cosmic falcon]

I wonder what this seconadry announcment is about.

[quaint rivet]

Yeah, and when will it be

[solid gyro]

Probably om the back of the list

Japan, Phillipines, Indonesia, and Siam DLC is prob next

[solid gyro]

or middle east

middle east was important in ww2

[quaint rivet]

Yeah, would be cool too

[solid gyro]

both iran and iraq were attacked by UK/USSR

[wary spade]

if its middle east instead of east asia I am jumping off a bridge

[quaint rivet]

I want middle east

[wary spade]

thats great man

but I feel like those nations arent THAT important

to the game

[solid gyro]

nah carribean or central america

[solid gyro]

they were more important in ww2 than chile and argentina

[quaint rivet]

South America before Germany

So yeah

[wary spade]

yeah I love paradox

ong

it wasnt even proper dlc

just a country pack

[blissful pawn]

i will stop playing hoi4 until paradox release today's announcement

[solid gyro]

to give some credit i do look at the americas more considering that the only other focus trees there suck only other good one is mexico. You have usa boring af, canada boring af and mexico which is amazing

for man the guns mexico surpassed expectations

[wary spade]

man thats insane u sure you are able to do that?

[solid gyro]

the difference from waking the tiger and man the guns is insane

[solid gyro]

It was, but people have been Vocal about Japan

Also arguably Indonesia was more important

[wary spade]

this

[solid gyro]

True

watch this announcement be paradox giving omans communist
a new portrait

[wary spade]

WE ARE SO BARACK

[blissful pawn]

not easy but i'll try😭

[wary spade]

🙏 prayin for your succes at not playing hoi for whole 2-3 hours

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 Withdrawal is a real concern

Speak to your doctor before leaving the PC for more than 20 minutes at a time

[wary spade]

real struggles of our time

[solid gyro]

i mean i will forever owe paradox for fixing the italian focus tree

literally democratic iceland is more fun

than old italy

They cooked with that one

[wary spade]

pacific democratic mangukuo'

[blissful pawn]

will play Apex instead

[solid gyro]

by blood alone was bad tho considering the other focus trees it provided was a nation that dies in 30 days, a nation that dies in 180 days and a nation that does nothing

they couldve atleast done albania

[solid gyro]

You'll not stop lmao

HoI4 is a powerful drug

What if instead of Germany rework we're getting the Russian National Reclamational State with Yazov and The Great Trial?

[open light]

fr

[open light]

russia already got a update though

[solid gyro]

Alternate path

Ultranationalist path

[open light]

SO modern Ruzzia

[wary spade]

not yet

[visual willow]

russia's tree was a bit rushed with the althist though, the democratic tree was even scfrapped

[solid gyro]

bruh

the "special" announcment was a national focus icon pack

[sterile tartan]

i assume a paid dlc?

[solid gyro]

no

like a national focus

[sterile tartan]

oh

[solid gyro]

icon pack

[graceful dagger]

Yes

[prisma wing]

4 dollars

[graceful dagger]

No

[sterile tartan]

oh

[solid gyro]

for icons

pictures that i can probably download

couldnt i technically do that

im not a modder so i wouldnt know

[prisma wing]

i will pay because i'm a cu*k

[solid gyro]

im just waiting for hungary focus tree update

[sterile tartan]

mongolia needs an update

[graceful dagger]

You "can" download almost anything these days, but can and if its legal are different things. 😅

Those who knows, know: https://youtu.be/HmZm8vNHBSU?si=wNa2FaQHDAxd9zco

[solid gyro]

hungary

[sterile tartan]

i want a mongolian empire focus

[sterile tartan]

hungaria already an update

[solid gyro]

its outdated tho

[sterile tartan]

mongolia is vanilla tree

[sterile dome]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/content-creator-pack-soviet-union-2d-art-announcement.1685738/#post-29678054

[solid gyro]

I don't get it

[marsh chasm]

It was all an icon DLC?

[solid gyro]

yep

[solid gyro]

So what's this about?

people were thinking it was tannu tuva focus tree

[marsh chasm]

And i should pay for icons?

[solid gyro]

if your a modder yes

im not

i dont know how to code

[dapper fjord]

that aircrafts, ships, tanks icon mann.. well, almost all ships icons are generic..

[chilly drum]

There is only so few ways to paint a ship in such low size tho

[quick gull]

CCP? CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY? COMMIE CHINA REWORK CONFIRMED?!

[wary spade]

funny how CCP means both things

the coincidence

[solid gyro]

hmmmm

then why would yesterdays leak be german

[wary spade]

post unification content would be nice

[chilly drum]

Anyway, this is a content creator pack, which means that some profit goes to modder, some to paradox, by buying it you directly support the creator while receiving a nice little addition to the game.

[sterile dome]

the new content was just soviet tree icons

[wary spade]

german bias, thats all I am sayin

[quick gull]

I don't know, I just wanted a Japan rework, but I guess we'll wait

[graceful dagger]

Exactly that

[solid gyro]

So we getting new icons?

That's cool lol

[wary spade]

the benevolence!

[solid gyro]

No Russia Demoxratic path 😔

[solid gyro]

what does it mea by modder i dont get it

did a modder make it

[chilly drum]

I liked the african pack for CK3, will be getting this one too, finally a reason for me to try out USSR, since it was pretty intimidating for me to try them previously

[blissful pawn]

But tank/plane designer cannot match the 2d tank/plane icons correctly

[solid gyro]

and then paradox lisence it

[wary spade]

no yezov ultra schizo path 🧢😔

[solid gyro]

It just changes all the icons for focus and equipment research right?

democratic germany needs an update

franz von papen

[chilly drum]

Yeah, modder of World Ablaze made it and paradox publishes it

[uneven swan]

Next DLC announcement when??

[mental onyx]

The content pack for the USSR only or not ?

[solid gyro]

Ultranationalist path with Yazov leading The Great Trial :D

[solid gyro]

Thursday lol

[uneven swan]

Well that would be nice

[graceful dagger]

And National Spirits, yes.

[solid gyro]

a week or two

[graceful dagger]

Yes

[solid gyro]

if it includes hungary i am going to buy it immeadietly

[solid gyro]

Screw Yazov, I want the Pagan Tuchachevsky path

[sterile dome]

When is the reveal for the teaser coming? are you allowed to say?

[wary spade]

I read it as penguin lmao

[solid gyro]

Are there more of these in store?

[solid gyro]

Nice

How much will it cost?

[graceful dagger]

We are open to more modding teams reaching out to us with ideas.

[dapper fjord]

no the new dlc "teaser" has been announced yesterday thursday.. well only "teaser"

[graceful dagger]

3,99$

[solid gyro]

Not bad

[solid gyro]

whos the modding team who made this what mods did they make

[quick gull]

Time to play my favourite game - "Who actually read the announcement?" and the bonus game of "The answer is in the announcement, why can't you read it?"

[mental onyx]

USSR larpers eating good when those new equipment icons drop.

[dapper fjord]

dankk

[muted fjord]

fair

[solid gyro]

Will you get Special Icons for the MP screen?

Yeah pretty fair

Take my money lol

[graceful dagger]

You can read all about that in the Dev Diary!

[graceful dagger]

Not in this one, no.

[graceful dagger]

I feel that

[quick gull]

Every single time 😄

[solid gyro]

Would've been cool

[solid gyro]

I did like the very beginning, didn't understand it lol

[quick gull]

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try

[solid gyro]

Tbh I'm just stupid lol

[quick gull]

Fair enough 😄

[blissful pawn]

these new icons are good, i hope in-game tank/plane designer can match icons with designs properly

[wary spade]

wai if I have a subscription, do I just get it for free?

I do right?

[solid gyro]

Ngl a Kaiserreich style CCP for Germany would be cool

Actually I would personally donate to anyone who would do one for the Base Tree

[sterile dome]

yes

[wary spade]

very nice

[solid gyro]

hmmm judging by the fact that the hoi4 dlc is probably about germany and paradox loves making meme characters I can probably say theres a 50% chance that lieutenant Franz Slechtnacht will be available as a german general (hes from family guy)

[wary spade]

who is this guy and why does he have a family

[mental onyx]

When a man and a woman love each other very much...

[wary spade]

your not real

[solid gyro]

Secret path where Hitler gets replaced with Charlie Chaplin in an Hilarious mix-up

[quick gull]

When a mann und a fraulein really love each other

[wary spade]

[solid gyro]

HOI4 After Dark dlc

[quick gull]

A special forces rework DLC

[solid gyro]

Or maybe a garrison dlc

Like changes to occupation laws

And cori

Coring*

[quick gull]

I don't see how that would work with the "After Dark" title, but fair enough

[jolly wasp]

Where is Papua New Guinea military government colony focus tree. We need Papua New Guinea military government colony focus tree

[graceful dagger]

In your dreams most likely

[quick gull]

Based

[graceful dagger]

You do not, no. CCPs are not included

[wary spade]

thats so cool

[graceful dagger]

The simple answer why is that CCPs are not made by us and the modders get paid based on how many copies the DLC itself sells.

[wary spade]

I know why that is, obviously it make sense to me

[jolly wasp]

What about Siam, Dutch East Indies, British Malaya, the Phillipines. The forgotten countries of hoi4

[solid gyro]

Hungary rework???

[graceful dagger]

Who knows, maybe in the future

[graceful dagger]

Same to you

[quick gull]

Japan rework?

[graceful dagger]

I wont comment on future plans for any nations 😅 I wont say yes, or no to anything.

[jolly wasp]

With scripted Kokoda campaign included

[quick gull]

Well, the first announcement did say that Hearts of Iron 4 is releasing 2024, so we'll see when it releases

[solid gyro]

Will Hoi5 ever release or are we in a perpetual cycle of reworks and DLCs

[graceful dagger]

Well we have made 4 so far

😅

[solid gyro]

Yall keep outgoing yourselves

[jolly wasp]

Who is the new Asian general in the hoi4 background art?

[graceful dagger]

Yamamoto

[quick gull]

HoI 1,2 and 3 as DLC for HoI 4 when?

[jolly wasp]

Thanks

[graceful dagger]

The new expansion is, yes. The game released in 2016

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 Scenarios mode

[quick gull]

I was joking, y'know. But I do love a serious response.

[solid gyro]

Become Rockstar

Keep re-releasing hoi4

[graceful dagger]

Better to answer seriously in case you are being serious

[quick gull]

HoI 4 Casino

[sterile dome]

I'd love more start dates and scenarios added to the game. like June 22nd 1941. Any chance of that ever happening Katten??

[graceful dagger]

I thought that was Bethesda

[graceful dagger]

Honestly, not for HOI4.

But I cant say never of course 😅

But its very much not in the plans at the moment.

[solid gyro]

I mean yeah

A new start date is basically its own dlc

[quick gull]

The Calendar DLC

[jolly wasp]

Give me 1975 Michael somare run

[solid gyro]

Also, are you perhaps going to collab with the WW2 Week by Week series again 🤔

A DLC about superweapons is dropping

Just as WW2 Week by Week gets to the bomv

[jolly wasp]

Michael somare based

[graceful dagger]

The door isnt closed and if the time is right, perhaps

[solid gyro]

Might be a coincidence

But

[jolly wasp]

How do I get paradox to create an integrated territory of Papua puppet and territory of New Guinea puppet in hoi4?

[quick gull]

Step 1: Buy Paradox
Step 2: Create the integrated territories
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit!

[graceful dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-rew-inside-rewi-distorted-dank-gif-17183483

[jolly wasp]

Exactly

If albo and Marape can do a walk together of Kokoda you can create the puppets in hoi4

[solid gyro]

Cancel all future DLC

[blissful pawn]

Any chance of WTT rework please?

[solid gyro]

Focus on an all-expanskve Papau New Guinea path

[jolly wasp]

Make them free updates like no man’s sky

[solid gyro]

Nah

Make one really big dlc fir a single nation

[jolly wasp]

It can be done. It WILL be done

Especially since Douglas MacArthur set up his military government in Port Moresby in ww2

[sudden cipher]

TfV rework when??

[jolly wasp]

We need Kokoda campaign

[chilly drum]

Waking the Tiger? What Waking the Tiger? Dlc with such name doesn't exist /joke

[sudden cipher]

Together for Victory

[chilly drum]

I stared to play right after it got integrated, so I was a bit confused about it for a while

[graceful dagger]

I cant comment on any future potential patches of DLCs.

[chilly drum]

Anyway, cant wait to play USSR after the content pack release, will be my first time ever

[sudden cipher]

please dude india got wasted HARD in that DLC

[chilly drum]

I hope papa Stalin will be gentle

[wary spade]

😳

[quick gull]

You...hope? Hope is a capitalist concept, off to the gulag with you

[sterile dome]

because you don't like us? 😦

[dull tundra]

guys do you think they will annocnce the next dlc on wednesday?

[graceful dagger]

Nope, because we are not ready to share more information yet.

[graceful dagger]

A very 0% chance

[dull tundra]

darn!

[graceful dagger]

We will start talking more after summer during fall.

[quick gull]

https://tenor.com/view/telling-me-chance-you-and-me-gif-13351576

[solid gyro]

When update

[dull tundra]

btw did you enjoy working with the modders?

[wary spade]

2030

[graceful dagger]

I did, yes! They are lovely to work with. This has been a project of mine for about 8 - 9 ish months now. 😄

[dull tundra]

can't wait!

[graceful dagger]

(Not that it took that long too make, but finding a partner, contracts, etc, etc).

[quick gull]

big biznis

[wary spade]

about the next one right? right???

[graceful dagger]

The expansion, yes

[dull tundra]

will we see more in the future?(like this year 🧐 )

[fresh spruce]

1 million moneys in my contry

[graceful dagger]

This year, not likely. In the future? I hope so! Its great to work with modders

[dull tundra]

me playing world ablaze bc of the dlc

[wispy scroll]

when Bhutan focus tree

[wary spade]

you mean (glory to) CCP?

[gilded gazelle]

what a shitty ass dlc

please paradox add mechanics, not things that every modder can do

and charge 8 euro for it

[wary spade]

please dont spread infromation, thank you

[gilded gazelle]

its my opinion

[wary spade]

I said information

not misinformation

[gilded gazelle]

huh

[wary spade]

read please

[gilded gazelle]

so wdym

"dont spread information"

[wary spade]

I dont like hearing correct information

I aint build like that

[gilded gazelle]

lmao

[outer heron]

thinking about it, I think the implications of this content pack are bigger than the contents of the pack

instead of just being a piece (albeit a major one) of the hoi4 community, now the modders are put into play

[dawn zodiac]

So if you have the art pack the focus icons are different or how does this work

[civic garnet]

Modders made battle for the Bosporus

[outer heron]

is that really a bragging right

i joke, but yeah I didnt know that

[civic garnet]

I was just pointing out that this isn’t the first time that pdx has hired on modders to help with content

[outer heron]

ah, my b

[tired dirge]

hi

#savehoi4

[solid gyro]

Bruh what's with the #savehoi4 thing

[chilly drum]

I have a feeling its some ruskie streameer who started it

[wary spade]

souce?

[chilly drum]

Me

Are feelings require sources?

[wary spade]

they are require

[hollow idol]

Step 1: announce dlc/patch plans
STep 2: make first trailer ridiculesly confusing
Step 3: troll community by realizing a pack of icons which use KDP as main symbol
Step 4: profit

[hollow idol]

No. Worst dlc realize ever.

[chilly drum]

Its cheap little dlc that you dont have to buy

Why people reacting like HoI dev made it for a year exclusively instead of expansion?

[hollow idol]

Making sure to downvote it

[chilly drum]

Reasons?

[hollow idol]

Trolled community

[chilly drum]

How exactly?

They said its a small secondary announcement

[hollow idol]

Ruined the entire guessing game by making the dlc impossible to guess
Made the dlc a optional pack that is only really for modders

Basically announced what most paradox studios would drop for free or paid but not say shit about outside steam page

Eh

Just feels kinda like a slap to face.

[hollow idol]

Think its a meme anytimes hoi4 fans are upset with dlc releases lol

[marsh chasm]

I agree

[chilly drum]

Its a cosmetic pack that alters the graphics in a way that some people would prefer the older ones, just making it a base game update would make some players mad

You can opt in buying, while also supporting the modders who maid.

Win win

[hollow idol]

As a fan of the game you can still be upset when a dlc releases that has KDP as main icon when the base game does not even have a tree for them

I wonder why people would be upset

Almost like we were advertised a German Communist Path

And now its revealed it was just icons

Hmmmm

[indigo citrus]

will we be getting a video tutorial on the HOI4 channel for the art style?

[chilly drum]

Your expectations is entirely on you, nobody said that some icons supposed to mean gameplay additions.

A word of advise: expect nothing from anything

[hollow idol]

No it was just censored like the austrian icongraphy was

But now im starting to question if this is all a ruse and we arent getting a dlc at all

If its gonna be another Modder pack

For germany while the other is for russia

[chilly drum]

...im off to dinner.

[hollow idol]

Like "isnt this cool guys no new real content just some icons "

[visual willow]

considering it's a collaboration with modders for art stuff (the first one), i think it's really not unwarrented to have it in this lil mini roadmap

[hollow idol]

Okay but this opens the doors to them no longer actually updating the game but selling modders works instead.

Expect way less dlcs in general in future

But more modder pack art

[sterile dome]

at this point its safe to assume they are working on HoiV

[visual willow]

they literally got a second team to work on the team less then a year ago

[hollow idol]

Literally

[visual willow]

also like,i really wouldn't mind it if they had modder-made DLCs? They would still be integrated in the game themselves and thus expanding the game

[hollow idol]

When we get the hoi5 announcement and its only 4 countries at launch

🥴🤌💵💸🤑

[hollow idol]

Yeah say that R56 that makes the game overly confusing

[chilly drum]

Well get out of hoi 4 at least several more years by the looks of it, they recently put a newbie guide on their main youtube channel and renewed art assets in steam page

Also, second team

[visual willow]

you struggle with r56? i'm sorry

[chilly drum]

You dont do those things for the soon to be shelved game

[hollow idol]

Hoi4 devs rn be like

[visual willow]

r56 barely ads any mechanics that complicate the game aswel so i really don't get that

[hollow idol]

Nahh just the endlessly expansive tech tree

That dillutes gameplay

[chilly drum]

There is r56, and also there is Black Ice and Millenium Dawn

Maybe I just dont know since Im pretty new, but all those popular mods are so bloated

[visual willow]

pre 45 tech, it's really not that much bigger

and you can pretty much ignore the post 45 tech

[visual willow]

like, it's basically just the first window. And it's extremely manageable???

[hollow idol]

This

R56 with a cutdown tech tree would be better.

[muted fjord]

nah i dont think so honestly (at least i hope so) i feel like if it were to be like that it wouldnt have a teaser and just a roadmap

[hollow idol]

I hope not as well.
If they do im quiting hoi4 lol and review bombing every dlc i own of it.

Double art pack and no real dlc is deceptive as hell

[muted fjord]

i'm not asking for much, just a germany rework lol

[graceful dagger]

For the World Ablaze art style?

[visual willow]

because they found the beaty in community made updates??? lmfao

[indigo citrus]

yes

[muted fjord]

could happen, but would make absolutely no sense with that whole wunderwaffen castle teaser thing

[hollow idol]

Unless its a german tree icon

Pack

And they just throw us all way off to add with soviet tree one

[visual willow]

a few years back they had a roadmap saying they wanted an update with wunderwaffen

[muted fjord]

or they just expand the soviet tree lmao

[visual willow]

also, do you actually think that paradox got hearts of iron 4 a second team, only for them to do.... literally nothing??

[graceful dagger]

Maybe, not a bad idea. Il ask the WA devs if they would be interested in that! 🙂

[hollow idol]

Nobody said they wouldnt patch bugs.

Or update art

[muted fjord]

no hate to PDX but why not make a revamp of icons for germany, as if the ussr didnt have enough already

[visual willow]

so you think paradox got a new team just so they can both waste their time doing things not bringing them in money?

[indigo citrus]

awesome thanks

[hollow idol]

Icon packs probably bring in some review

Plus the game already has like 15 dlcs

[visual willow]

like, we're talking about the corporation that if i don't see them being referred to for the grand strategy games, it's for their DLC model lmfao

[hollow idol]

And its own game pass

[muted fjord]

lets not hate on it too hard, after all the making of those DLC's are feeding the devs

[hollow idol]

Well lets wait till 10th for the full review to see if its a dlc or yet another art pack

[elder fog]

will there be no DLC released

?

[chilly drum]

People are mad becase its %its not that unrealistically complicated thing they imagined and hoped for by looking at icons%, not because its a bad deal, because its not, its 4 bucks, a one big mac.

Or whatever, Im not in dollar dominated country.

[hollow idol]

No the first announcement is modders content sold as art icons

Yes they are paying the mod artist

[elder fog]

Bruh

[hollow idol]

No idea on second announcement yet

But expect bs

[elder fog]

i swear if its not gonna be something big

[chilly drum]

Are we just going to ignore an expansion teaser?

That was the first announcement.

This one is second.

Im feeling like my brains starting to rot having this conversation...

[hollow idol]

The first image

Not the trailer teaser

[hollow idol]

How a lot of us feel dog

Literally got companies selling modders art as dlcs now

[elder fog]

yeah

[hollow idol]

Bethesda does it too with skyrim

[hard smelt]

a cat feeling dog 😦

[hollow idol]

Incase you dont get the joke

[elder fog]

i dont get it

[chilly drum]

Did you know that starfield or any other big game nowadays is made by modders by your definition?

[elder fog]

i dont play skyrim

[chilly drum]

This is called outsource.

[hollow idol]

Bethasda stopped making new content for skyrim instead making their creators club mod program the main focus.

[visual willow]

expect a full reveal the week after the teaser, maybe 2 at worst

[hollow idol]

Which just takes modders work and sales it as theirs

Instead of actually updating the game

[elder fog]

oh

alright

[hollow idol]

Its way more profitable

Than doing the work themselves

[chilly drum]

Yeah, its not a charity, there are people who need to eat sometimes.

[hollow idol]

Its called swet shop coding

[elder fog]

ah alright

lazy

[chilly drum]

Okay Im out, Its like im talking to the wall or something.

[visual willow]

obv paradox is also doing this. You know with all the clearly labeling this as being made by content creators, and the very greedy move of getting hoi4 a second dev team

[elder fog]

its true

they didnt say anything about a dlc

[visual willow]

they literally had a teaser

[elder fog]

doesnt say anything

but its disapointing

[muted fjord]

i forgot i wrote something before sending my message

[elder fog]

still

[visual willow]

it shows enough

[muted fjord]

were def getting a expansion/dlc

i doubt they would hype us this much to just make it a decal update

[visual willow]

the trailer is so obviously setting up a wunderwaffen dlc like come on

[elder fog]

then i hope it aint gonna be like the last dlc

[hollow idol]

Gonna be a cold day in hell before we get a communist tree ever for germany

[muted fjord]

i hope its not only based around the wunderwaffen

[elder fog]

yes

[muted fjord]

praying for a german rework

[elder fog]

same

[hollow idol]

Wunderwaff is probably the real dlc if they do do one

[visual willow]

i really do not expect them to bring out an entire update centered around merely wunderwaffen, expect 3 trees and another feature minimum

[muted fjord]

honestly i'd buy it either was as long as i get a german ework

[elder fog]

yes

[muted fjord]

I hope ur right

[elder fog]

bro if this is some tanna tuva shit then damn

[elder fog]

kaisseredux honestly has better made trees than the main game itself💀

[muted fjord]

ig the best thing is to just let em cook and hope its good

[hollow idol]

Gross

[hollow idol]

Alright guys 20$ and still no communist germany rework

[visual willow]

are you actually using your brain rn or is all your 4 molocules of grey matter spend on hating paradox because they dared hiring modders

[hollow idol]

Not at all

Critizism is always valid of corporations

[elder fog]

capitalist corporations deserve critizm

[visual willow]

oh i know, but you are making a conspiracy theory for no reason

[hollow idol]

Is it conspiracy to say its easier to just pay modders to do all the work and outsource to save?

[visual willow]

"guys paradox is going to abandon the game and outsource EVERYTHING to modders, and there will be no more gameplay dlc despite hiring a 2nd devteam and just posting a teaser about something that was on the roadmap!!!"

[hollow idol]

Like companys already do this

Rn

[visual willow]

no, but claiming paradox will drop hoi4 despite there being a 99% certainty they won't is madness

[elder fog]

paradox always fails to deliver

[hollow idol]

:3 think your honestly not getting me

[elder fog]

espically with ck2😭

i spent so much money

all lost

[chilly drum]

..uuh, no? Ck2 is still on your steam account.

Go play it, champ.

[elder fog]

yes?

but they stoped updating

now its boring

conquerd the world

fought the mongols

[visual willow]

:3 you're literally saying that paradox likely will not do anything for a real hoi4 dlc despite allthe evidence pointing against

[elder fog]

fought the chinese

[chilly drum]

Yeah, imagine that, I wanted %myfavoriteMMO% also being updated for 20 years, but apperantly pepople move to better things.

Okay, I gave this channel a chance, back to my busines.

[elder fog]

last dlc was a flop

[hollow idol]

Ck3 exist now

[elder fog]

i wont spend all that money again

[hollow idol]

But its dlcs are all more pricy

Ye

[muted fjord]

just get the subscription

[hollow idol]

Or wait till a sale

[muted fjord]

^^^^

[hollow idol]

Ck3 probably the most unpolished game by paradox rn

[visual willow]

vic3

[hollow idol]

Like honestly isnt worth it

Full price wise

Id say wait for a sale

[hollow idol]

They neck in neck on linux crashes

[elder fog]

vic3 is actully kinda good

played it

[hollow idol]

And on windows crashes

[visual willow]

ok but the thing is, no sane person buys older games full price

[hollow idol]

And on mac crashes

[visual willow]

the moment a game gets more then a 10% sale more then twice a year, that becomes it's actual price

[hollow idol]

Depends what game

I mean minecraft?

Yeah i can imagine

But a paradox title? Nah

[elder fog]

minecraft doesnt have dlcs

[hollow idol]

True

Well sorta

Bedrock has addons

[visual willow]

like, hearts of iron isn't actually 50 bucks, noone is dumb enough to pay that for a 8 year old game
it's 10 bucks, full stop

[hollow idol]

But not java

[elder fog]

bedrock is so glitchy

[hollow idol]

True

But bedrock got rtx

Cant do that in java without mods

[elder fog]

mods are free there atleast 🙂

most of them

[visual willow]

does java even go on sale actually

[elder fog]

idk

yea

they had a sale for not so long ago

or wait no that was bedrock

[hollow idol]

They are bundled together now, going on sale 3 times a yr

Summer winter and annivassary week

Also you can get both on gamepass pc

You can also win them through MS point system with bing

[elder fog]

yes with bing

💀

[vocal crystal]

will your avatar fall apart too?

[elder fog]

?

[crimson violet]

Well, atleast the art looks cool on the pack

That‘s pretty much the only upside

[wary spade]

1991 something something

[hard smelt]

not every1 has the same intelligence stats XD

[solid gyro]

Wait

CCP is entirely new

Or does it re-use stuff from the mod?

Mvm.its the first thing on the dev diary lmao

June 10

[graceful dagger]

Entirely new

It doenst say but its 15:00 CEST

Give or take a few minutes as usual

[paper estuary]

Is this art pack coming with the subscription?

[graceful dagger]

It does not as its not developed by Paradox Interactive.

[paper estuary]

Aight, thx

[graceful dagger]

Np

[dull tundra]

will have to wait for only for the DDs or the announcement as well

[green bloom]

i hope one of the updates will feature the ability to change UI scale in windowed and borderless mode

[sonic onyx]

How do I enter the giveaway?

[harsh hull]

I mean, I regularly pay 4 USD or more for candy at the store

[solid gyro]

The Trains must run on time

[harsh hull]

Seems a fair price to ask for the amount of assets created by two modders in their spare time

[solid gyro]

Ngl excited for the CCP

Night try and learn how to play the USSR lol

[harsh hull]

It is pretty satisfying to completely stonewall Barbarossa

[solid gyro]

I uh

Once qith like 2.5k hours on my record

Lost an entire army group in an encirclement

[tawdry arch]

4 bucks for candy??

god damn

[harsh hull]

well not in one bag, obviously

but i do have a sweet tooth

[harsh hull]

The propoganda machines burned long into the night after that one

[solid gyro]

It was dumb too

The Romanian border was holding but like the center collapsed

And I decided they I fidng want to pull back

[harsh hull]

In a future update, I want them to do a Yugoslavia thing and make Russia a separate tag from the Soviet Union, like how Serbia is distinct from Yugoslavia

See how they reconcile releasing Russia in Russia and the Soviet Union in Siberia

[open light]

fr

[solid gyro]

Idk

The USSR "is" Russia

[harsh hull]

No, the USSR is a federation comprising multiple Soviet Socialist Republics, of which Russia happens to be the largest and most economically dominant

[solid gyro]

And Politically Dominant

And Ethnically Dominant

For all purposes the USSR is basically just a rebranded Russian empire

[harsh hull]

Nominally, the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic still has its own head of state that isn't Stalin

[tawdry arch]

the soviet union is russia without being russian

[solid gyro]

"Nominally"

[harsh hull]

But Stalin is the General Secretary of the USSR, not Russia

Yes, I'm very aware it's splitting hairs

[solid gyro]

Shouldn't be a separate tag tbh

[harsh hull]

I would agree, if only Serbia wasn't its own tag

But since it is, I think it would be funnier

[solid gyro]

Tbf

Idk why Serbia was made it's own tag

Given that you can literally become Serbia through the tree

[solid gyro]

Crossing fingers that pist-war mechanics get added and Hoi5 is cold-war

[harsh hull]

The most logical reasoning I can think of is so that they could make economic focuses tied to specific regions as being "States that are Serbian cores" vs having to say "all states that are not cores of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, and Bosnia-Herzegovina"

[solid gyro]

Nah it was based

[solid gyro]

Maybe? Idk

Either way

USSR dissolution tree when

I mean it exists, but need more

[tawdry arch]

ah yes, useless nations in a continent claimed to be underrated despite doing nothing

completely based when we want a germany rework and japan rework

[solid gyro]

Ok, then China shouldn't have gotten a DLC

Yall just can't have fun can you

[tawdry arch]

yes they should've they were literally one of the main fronts of ww2

[solid gyro]

Yeahhh

[tawdry arch]

that's like comparing germany in a ww2 game to ecuador or smthing in a ww2 game

[harsh hull]

I like TOA, but I wish the map rework for the region had been more in-depth

[solid gyro]

But they have less replayability than South American Nations

[harsh hull]

The provinces are still too big for my liking

[solid gyro]

Yeye

Ngl states are a bit weird

But it was good overall

And atleast South America does something now lol

[tawdry arch]

which they didn't at all except for some divisions from brazil

a japan rework or (an earlier) germany rework would've been much more appreciated

[solid gyro]

I value more trees than reworks

[tawdry arch]

i value better trees than useless nations

[solid gyro]

"Useless Nations"

[harsh hull]

Mate, it was a country pack created between two major DLC

[tawdry arch]

it's south america

what is it supposed to do??

[solid gyro]

Idk maybe play the DLC lmao

[harsh hull]

Nobody's forced you to buy it

[tawdry arch]

i'm not wasting money on toa

[solid gyro]

^^^^

[tawdry arch]

that's why i didn't

[harsh hull]

Then why are you complaining about it

[solid gyro]

Then don't comment on the DLC

[harsh hull]

Paradox doesn't care

[tawdry arch]

i'd rather have something more important than south america bro

[tawdry arch]

i'm not arguing with paradox right now??

[solid gyro]

Erm... they have mods for that actually

[harsh hull]

They have their own production pipeline, and TOA does nothing to slow down the next DLC

[tawdry arch]

yeah and there is a mod that is 500 times better than toa

for all of south america

[solid gyro]

Great, play it

But TOA was still very enjoyable

[tawdry arch]

from what i've heard the trees weren't even that great anyways

[pseudo wing]

If you do not find value in ToA, you of course do not need to purchase it.

Though I will say, HOI has expanded to a secondary team, so the development of ToA does not impact any future releases

But it is still important, at least in my opinion, that other countries gain content regardless of how impactful they were at the time the game takes place

[solid gyro]

Scrap what ever you're working on, I demand an Ecuador tree!

[wary spade]

ofc, we need a fresh soviets exp

[pseudo wing]

deleting ecuador rn, just bc you pinged me

same with belgium

[harsh hull]

Finally

[pseudo wing]

[tawdry arch]

why belgium though

[solid gyro]

Ok it balances out

[wary spade]

YES no more Belgium

[solid gyro]

Belgium is an affront to God

[pseudo wing]

running joke i have, no real reason to be fair

[tawdry arch]

well belgium doesn't have a real reason to exists anyways

rightful dutch land

[pseudo wing]

@fallen zenith

lmao

[solid gyro]

Exactly

[harsh hull]

What about the Belgian Congo to be clear, stay or go as well?

[tawdry arch]

belgian congo is fake

it's german colony now

[solid gyro]

We still need our Rubber so...

[pseudo wing]

it's canadian congo now, canada is the next super ultra major nation ofc

[solid gyro]

That's Cursed

[tawdry arch]

you know i could live with that

just make it part of alberta

[solid gyro]

Deep Canadian Accent

You didn't extract enough rubber today, so I'm gonna cut off your hands now eh?

[pseudo wing]

now now, we wouldn't do that

[tawdry arch]

not the deep canadian accent 😭

[pseudo wing]

soorry aboot that, eh?

it'll be okay there, bud

[solid gyro]

I can see right through you, that politeness hides the darkness

[tawdry arch]

i hate how i've said both of those exactly as depicted

[pseudo wing]

nothing in this world can scare me, im from Quebec

[tawdry arch]

what

chak you're a frenchie??

[solid gyro]

I hate you, you're the reason why everything in Toronto is also in French but no one speaks French there?!?! Why the French Signs?!?!

[tawdry arch]

i have to go cry in a corner quebec is the last place i expect chak to be from

[pseudo wing]

No, I am an anglophone, I am simply from Quebec

[solid gyro]

Confusing

[harsh hull]

So that's why Quebec was finally added as a tag

Good hustle out there

[tawdry arch]

at least you're not fully french then

[pseudo wing]

surely you've seen all the canadian content come out since I joined at the start of last year

playing the long con out here

[tawdry arch]

they should add alberta as a tag ngl

[harsh hull]

I'm still holding out for Together for Victory 2

[tawdry arch]

let me conquer the west as chad oilberta 💪 💪 💪

[solid gyro]

You fixed Canada🥺

I remember when you needed to choose between industry or people

[pseudo wing]

lmao, I wish.

I am simply good at relaying sentiment to help out the devs see what people want/think. (I hope)

I may be terrible at this game, but I do want everyone to enjoy it as much as they can

[tawdry arch]

i need to figure out how to mod to create chad oilberta

goodbye good sirs

[solid gyro]

Can you guys fix that bug where Brazil and Norways extra unit models don't show 👉👈

[pseudo wing]

did you make a bug report?

[solid gyro]

A while back

[pseudo wing]

(and can link it if so)

[solid gyro]

Told Katten

1 sec

[tacit sequoia]

En Union y Libertad is a good mod if y'all want better south america :p

[tacit sequoia]

normal hoi4 trial of allegiance is good, but it can be better :3

[solid gyro]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/as-brazil-argentina-and-norway-you-are-unable-to-view-the-additional-unit-models-from-the-designer-despite-their-existence.1627540/

[pseudo wing]

If you mentioned it to katten, then it may be in the war effort patch that is coming up soon, but I don't have the patch notes on hand so cannot confirm anything

[solid gyro]

I helped with the Ecuador tree >:p

[tacit sequoia]

nice

[solid gyro]

I hope so, yall always do an amazing job with the models

[tacit sequoia]

honestly waitin for the new dlc...

[solid gyro]

I haven't seen a mod that has beat base game models

And I HATE the KR models

[pseudo wing]

I am just waiting for cavalry models for canada to be replaced with straight up moose, that also do emotional damage to the enemy so my country is OP

[solid gyro]

Canadian Mounty models when

Also I went to Canada, and saw no Mountys

[pseudo wing]

I'd love that, hopefully one day

[solid gyro]

Canada scammed me 😡

[pseudo wing]

did you go to the east or west coast?

they're more present on the west coast

[solid gyro]

Ah

Toronto

[pseudo wing]

lmao, well there's your issue

its toronto

all you have there are americans and high rent prices

[solid gyro]

Ah

[pseudo wing]

(Toronto is fine its just really pricey for no reason)

[solid gyro]

Run for the Prime Minister-ship

[tacit sequoia]

having a feeling that if they're reworking japan next year, they're gonna rework the united states also 🤔

[solid gyro]

Fix Toronto

[pseudo wing]

I spend too much time telling y'all to not go into politics and now you want me to become the politics? hell naww

[solid gyro]

I've heard reverse-waking the tiger theory

[tacit sequoia]

could be like that, tho 80 years since ending of WW2

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 is a very political game, I see no difference between playing hoi4 and running a country

[tacit sequoia]

lmao, it be crazy

[tawdry arch]

if you can win in hoi4 you can manage a country perfectly fine

well assuming you ignore the economy

[pseudo wing]

yeah so about that

lmao

[solid gyro]

Nah economy is easy

Spam Civs

[tacit sequoia]

nah on one part you're making templates for divisions on such, while on other end of stick you're working legit people in a senate, parliament, whatever, or you're ruling it like the germans did :p

[pseudo wing]

I am utter DOOKIE at this game, I just turn everythign communist bc i like the flags better

[solid gyro]

Hoi4 gate

How can you make a game and be bad at it

Just rig the game in your fsbour

[tacit sequoia]

true... dragon flag rework help make it better too...

kinda weird how hoi4 never implemented the real french empire flag for the napoleonic tree

[tawdry arch]

because fr*nce is lame

[pseudo wing]

now now, be nice to france

[tawdry arch]

and you cannot replace my favourite corsican

[solid gyro]

Tbf the Tricolor is basically the same

[pseudo wing]

wdym

[tacit sequoia]

they got the tricolor, but they don't have anything to signify a difference between the Republic and the Empire

[tawdry arch]

there was pretty much no difference

same thing

still france

[solid gyro]

Bonapartism is a democratic ideology

[tacit sequoia]

could add the imperial coat of arms to make it different

[tawdry arch]

looks too english

[pseudo wing]

you should make a suggestion on the forums for it, I'd like to see something like that changed

though that isnt a guarantee it'd be done, it would be nice to see it

[solid gyro]

Ngl

I think we need more Leaders for Democratic nations

To make elections more impactful

Or atleast have flavour

[fallen zenith]

Idk why but the benelux is just way more fun to play ngl. I rly hope the belgium focus tree is just "form belenux" for all paths xD

So yea its true. Rightful benelux lands

[solid gyro]

Can we get a dissolve Belgium starting rule