latest-updates

[final stag]

👍

[solid gyro]

i will add in A LOT of NEW units and templates

like flamethrower section

rangers

stormtroopers

etc

[solid gyro]

Only like different types of Support Batalliond

And a new Marine unit type

That can retreat into the sea from any tile

alr

Also Parachute tank support company which is nice

yes i saw the vid

[mellow rapids]

Btw, you can already have light tank recon support company on parratrooper

[solid gyro]

Yeye but I think the proper light tank one is better

Paratrooper space marines?

[tawdry ore]

When the new dlc will come out, will all mods need to be updated

[mellow rapids]

Yes probably

for all the big mod at least

[solid gyro]

Yeah because of the new Market system

It's gonna be like NSB all over again

Mods didn't update for months

[distant fox]

whic dlc has teh disigner

[visual willow]

Nsb was a bit more complicated cause of the new leader system iirc

Trade system seems more tacked on and not a rework of a system with a lot of variables in it already

[solid gyro]

Which designer

[solid gyro]

make it so that you can play for PMC organizations for modern mods this will be promotion and make it so that you can make your own armor unloading weapons helmet artillery I think it will be even more interesting

[visual willow]

you can already make all of those

it's called infantry equipment

[mellow rapids]

NSB : Tank
BBA : Plane
MtG : Ship

[hollow lion]

@glad hill no politics/modern conflict

[solid gyro]

When politics channel

[solid gyro]

Discussion of Best hoi4 Ideaology?

[hard smelt]

non aligned

[molten bison]

German starting

[solid gyro]

Nah

It's the Grey one

But tue special Grey one that's still Grey but isn't the same as the other Grey ones

[frosty jay]

Fascism for the bellum you can start

[visual willow]

Fascism is objectivally the best one

Bit better puppets, day1 justifications, war economy without war restrictions

[solid gyro]

I assumed Communism and Fascism had the same benefits no?

[glad beacon]

Communism has different benefits i think

[visual willow]

Communism has worse puppets

Otherwise basically identical

But the trees tend to be worse

[solid gyro]

What's the difference?

[visual willow]

they have default puppets, fascism has reichskommisariats which give more mills

[cerulean hatch]

Woah

[half current]

#hearts-of-iron-news message
What was the surprise?

[hoary robin]

Ye

[hasty loom]

?

[grave plume]

Why do people call them CBs and what does it mean?

[frosty jay]

Casus belli means cause for war

In latin

Bellum means war
Casus means reasons

[grave plume]

Thank you

[solid gyro]

They say something about no dev diary today?

[pseudo wing]

There will be one, its just a little delayed by a few minutes

shouldn't be too long, I just received some translations late so I have to input them 🙂

[solid gyro]

hello

cant wait to play AAT when it releases

[solid gyro]

Truly a Gentleman's unit, always enter a battle well dressed

I feel like they should have a lil hat tho

[pseudo wing]

i gotchu

Artiste ™

[solid gyro]

there's a guy with a tiny d*ck crashing every server

@graceful dagger I'm so sorry for ping but here's someone crashing every MP server

[graceful dagger]

I am unable to do anything about something using a third party program. :/

If we can locate who it is on the server, he can be banned ofc.

[solid gyro]

Based

[harsh hull]

You know what, after how big and complicated the new Italian tree was, I'm glad that Finland's tree looks so relatively mundane

"Prepare a military coup" - short, sweet, and to the point

[solid gyro]

I was like kinda dissapointed at how small it is

Because I forgot how Kaisseriech and mods stretch trees with 5 day focuses

But for Nordic countries

These are damn good trees

I just find it weird you can't coup w/out civilwar for Norway and Denmark

[harsh hull]

Oh, there's still the "secret" monarchist path that they can't bother to just show regularly until you do some arbitrary thing

[solid gyro]

Tru

I'm pretty sjre

Sami is gonna have a small tree

Like like the Ethiopians

[solid gyro]

To be fair though they only did that for Poland

[harsh hull]

Papacy path

[solid gyro]

They don't get a separate tree though

Just a leader

Like all the Secret hitlers they've sprinkles around

[harsh hull]

The papacy does have their own tiny focus tree path that doesn't show up until you unlock it

Which is what I'm talking about with Finland's monarchist path

[solid gyro]

Qh I never so it

Saw**

[solid gyro]

Prolly gonna be like if the Whites win the civilwsr and you went nationalist

[visual willow]

yeah i'd rather have a slightly smaller but more coherent tree then italy's tree with 80% fluff

[solid gyro]

Exactly. Finlands tree is a perfect size in my opinion. Imo right between the focus tree size of Greece and Bulgaria is where you want to be. Greece’s is a little to small imo tho

[proven comet]

Isnt bulgaria one of the best focus trees tho

Its so fr

[visual willow]

Eh a bit bigger then bulgaria is also def appreciated

But mostly for the bigger countries

Greece is too small

[void yew]

How to unlock it? DEUS VULT!

[solid gyro]

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Wdym

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Not really

They're just adding different versions

Finland has like t different models for basic infantry

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[solid gyro]

Idk Byzantine path is good, Greece just needs a better Monarchy path

[solid gyro]

Yea

3 had different hats

1 has a different uniform

[solid gyro]

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Yeah

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Same for Mountianeers and Paratroopers

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[solid gyro]

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[hollow mist]

my fav astronaut

[solid gyro]

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[native owl]

https://tenor.com/view/johny-sins-scary-meme-gif-20012175

[sterile scroll]

I wish paradox would add a mechanic to switch wallpapers between the dlcs

[solid gyro]

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[solid gyro]

Greatest Finnish soldier

[solid gyro]

I just realized

Devs are a bit sneaky

They're adding new Soviet infantry models in this dlc too

(Which frankly is a releif I found the current models a bit bland)

[visual willow]

It's too short and doesn't have much interesting parts

[solid gyro]

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[solid gyro]

Doubted

Probably only majors

[vocal basin]

How do you have the dlc?

[solid gyro]

Was a photo from the dev diary

[vocal basin]

Oh

[solid gyro]

Yeah they were showing off name changes

[vocal basin]

Also new Germany models as well

[solid gyro]

Guys is this real

[solid gyro]

For the mountaineers, all majors are getting new special forces models

Reason I mentioned this is cause it may imply we could get new basic infantry models for nationa

[mossy cedar]

fellow vinesauce enjoyer, eh?

[vocal basin]

Yep

[mossy cedar]

I recognized that nickname :D

[vocal basin]

Lol 😂

I almost died from laughter when I saw the longhorn vid for the first time

[tidal musk]

Yes

[frosty oak]

yoo i wonder if we can spur The Last Kinship War during the winter war

from all the tooltips i see in the screenshots i dont see anything saying we cant

[simple fjord]

Latest hoi4 update: SHIPS ON LAND!

[hard smelt]

ah yes the famous landcruiser

[compact marlin]

хуй

[molten bison]

damn nice

Yeah the current model doesn’t really fit

[molten bison]

Italy tree isn’t really complicated

It’s just industry army air navy communist/democratic Mussolini balbo dino monarchy

[chilly condor]

i know it isn't something added in the latest update or sum,but why does Hungary declare /join the war in right away against poland in vanilla historical,like if its historical it shouldnt happen right?

[solid gyro]

They didn't participate irl

As far as I know that didn't send soldiers at all

[chilly condor]

Yes,Horthy refused to attack Poland,yet in historical vanilla hungary declares on poland

[frosty oak]

game limitations, AI doesnt know that

they really should add some modifiers and spirits and just train the AI to slow down a bit tbh

esp regarding the current non existence of the phony war

[solid gyro]

Ah misread, for me he doesn't join until 41

[molten bison]

thats a no dlc problem

[solid gyro]

Hungary starts out Fascist no dlc right?

[gray monolith]

non aligned

[solid gyro]

Weird

[molten bison]

they start out non aligned in 1936

with and without dlc

And they only flip when Germans do the align Hungary focus and fascist support grows enough

[spice shoal]

hungarian politics were divided between the pro-german facist a and the pro-neutrality nationalists. Nationalists start in control, (as historical) but the facist slowly gain power as Hungary misses out on promises. (Germany offered all of Slovakia for full support, Hungary declined. Only got half of it. Indirect promises for transylvania. Repeat. Finally, when he was offered Croatia and a port on the adriatic (manipulation since they knew he was a former admiral) Horthy caved and gave full support to Germany. He gained ever more pressure from the growing facist as Hungary lost opportunities.

Non Aligned represents Horthies original government, Facists represents the pro-Germans

they probably should’ve made them start as facist but at that point in time the code would restrict historical-ness and probably have Hungary join the axis/give more support earlier

same reason USSR doesn’t invade poland. at that point in time they couldn’t make the allies not declare on them

[spice shoal]

there’s some weird polish-hungarian friendship thingy which poland can explain better then i can (like greece and serbia): https://przystanekhistoria.pl/pa2/tematy/english-content/75481,Hungarians-towards-the-German-aggression-on-Poland.html

TLDR: poland and hungary have had a super long relationship of trade and goodness. Throughout the 1920s they heavily supported hungary by not signing the treaty of trianon, not joining the little entente, etc. Horthies government and Polands government were also the most similar compared to Hitler. Not only that, but Horthy wanted to be seen as neutral and not a complete German ally since he didnt think he could win the war (not going to go much on that this was the entirety of Hungarian politics for four years, eventually he was manipulated by a growing Pro-German government as they missed out on more landgrabs)

[solid gyro]

Yeye I know thay

I just Meant in game

Without dlc

[spice shoal]

I have not played unmodded in like two months, my bad. No clue

[solid gyro]

Actually a mod does Do the USSR think correctly

So it is possible

[solid gyro]

Rip, what mods?

[spice shoal]

Id be suprised if that wasnt a thing

It is. Wasnt back then/thry were lazy

[spice shoal]

Hearts of Minecraft. TWR. Kaiserreich. Soon TNO

[solid gyro]

TWR is one of the best

[molten bison]

crazy dd

[solid gyro]

They're gonna have a

"Lord of War" Acheivement

With smth like "be selling equipment to ~10 nations at once"

oh man cant wait for when AAT releases

[hasty loom]

maybe

but pdx will be like:

https://tenor.com/view/money-rich-gif-25596211

[sweet talon]

tanks used to be called land ships to trick the germans into thinking they were making ships

also the word tank came from the fact they were said to carry water

[hard smelt]

Cool

[ripe spoke]

Guys do you know if the states on Russian half of Karelia and Murmansk will be changed to more like in Kaiserreich like by giving tiles to Murmansk so the map would look better if Finland would only get Onega and not Murmansk

Like will they make the map look more like this

On the Russian side

[spice oyster]

nope they wont

[ripe spoke]

Nooooo

It will kill my eyes if i see finland with Onega and Russia with Murmansk

[spice oyster]

content designer for Finland said on the forum that he considered changing Soviet states but in the end he decided not to after discussion with other devs

[ripe spoke]

Oh ok

[spice oyster]

or something like this

[ripe spoke]

Ok

[spice oyster]

there is lot of states that would deserve rework

but optimalization

[ripe spoke]

Yeah

Btw do you remember where did he exactly say about changing the states

[spice oyster]

I will find it

[ripe spoke]

Thanks

[ripe spoke]

Thanks a lot

[jovial merlin]

Will they buff Raj's railway focusses in the next patch?

Doing 210 days of focusses for a few railways always seems kinda iffy

specially when you dont start out with trains researched lmao

They fixed that with canada's railway focusses (altho one is missing a building slot)

But not for the raj

[wanton rune]

i want middle east dlc bro

[eager mortar]

me too

[eager mortar]

but first south america

[cold venture]

Asian dlc!!

[night belfry]

Already have an asia dlc

South america first

[wise plinth]

But I want focuses for British Malaya

[prisma wing]

Rework of France, Germany, USA and Japan 🥺

[wanton rune]

ok so

• middle east
• south america
• asian has a dlc BUT IMO WHY NOT MONGOLIA BROOO

like forming the mongolian empire would be so cool af

i mean just look at this

[lunar folio]

Problem: Mongolia

I tried playing RT56 Mongolia earlier and sheesh

[wanton rune]

is ti good

bro

at least

some other nations who dont have a focus tree

has the options to form some empires

decisions*

but mongolia has LITERALLY no special stuff 💀

[night belfry]

Ohhh

I want stronk tannu tuva

[solid gyro]

Thailand, the Dutch East Indies, Mongolia, and Mengukuo need focuses

[steep isle]

absolute truth

[solid gyro]

Tannu Tuca if they're Crazy enough

[night belfry]

Oh those asian countries

[solid gyro]

Tuva*

They need it

Then a South America dlc

Prolly focusing on Chile, Argentina, and Brazil

Peru and Ecuador would get stuff cause they fought a war

And the rest is uo for debate

Venezuela starts Fascist which might be cool

[lilac cargo]

Sinkiang is basically mongolian empire

not sure if they get cores in mongolia proper... but forming greater sinkiang feels as ridiculous

[hollow lion]

🥺 and?

[lunar folio]

I got to 1940 and had done absolutely nothing even though I was beelining to try and restore the Empire

Can’t take on China or Japan due to abysmal manpower, nor did I even find the border war options to expand without total war

[visual willow]

You shouldnt be able to core all that, would be too stupid

[wanton rune]

do you know how turan works 💀

[visual willow]

The name could def be a thing though and like claims

[visual willow]

Turan is more of a meme then mongol empire

[wanton rune]

still

[visual willow]

Same camp with rome, so dumb it is justified again

[wanton rune]

it has a special thing

[visual willow]

With mongolia it's literally still just.... mongolia

[wanton rune]

called turanist modifier

[hollow lion]

Yeh I had the same

[wanton rune]

also it has a lot of turanist

advisors

[visual willow]

Turanism is more based on the idea that they're actually turkish enough though

Mongol empire is based on "well we loosely got paid from these people"

[wanton rune]

just

put

epic mongol dominance

[visual willow]

No

[wanton rune]

bro but rome

[visual willow]

Rome is also more meme

[wanton rune]

rome literally has tiles

but still it'd be cool

[visual willow]

If rome was called "glorious italian empire" it would be stupud aswell

[wanton rune]

its hoi4

[visual willow]

Yes

And i don't want the entire mongol empire

Just make it fascist greater mongolia's name and give it wargoals

[wanton rune]

just can get war goals

[visual willow]

But like no special modifiers

Cause that wouldn't make sense

[wanton rune]

i also want a ummah path for saudi arabia

[visual willow]

It's not as memey as rome either imo

A what now

[wanton rune]

idk how to spell it

but basically there was a time

where after prophet muhammad died

an islamic empire was set

further going through

north africa

and spain

[visual willow]

Makes more sense for it to be just arabia

[wanton rune]

they failed at spain

and empire fell

a path for arabia imo

a focus tree

would be good

giving goals through middle east

and north africa

but needs some power through some focuses

[visual willow]

Nah

[wanton rune]

to face many powers

imo

there is literally uk and italy

[visual willow]

Tough luck then

[wanton rune]

and also

[visual willow]

Maybe negotiate for land then

[wanton rune]

wait wait

heres my idea

a modifier

is not a memey

idea this time

because of islam

[visual willow]

You shoulsn't get too many OP buffs just because "otherwise i can't solo!!!"

Like, don't solo then

[wanton rune]

no no hear me out

[wanton rune]

.

[visual willow]

Ok, still shouldn't be srltupidly high 🤷‍♀️

Look at turkey for example

[wanton rune]

turkey literally me 💪

bro gets a focus jsut to go through middle east OR cold ways through russia and asia

and germany doesnt

[visual willow]

Germany doesn't have any reason to fight in the middle east and asia

[wanton rune]

bro no you dont get my point 😭

turkey has things for if they wanna go hot or cold

at least germany couldve a preparation buff for soviets

like winter

[visual willow]

Well that's just a relic from a dated focus tree

[wanton rune]

man i love this focus tree so much

[visual willow]

It's eh

Too straight made, makes for boring design, shouldve been more horizontal

[wanton rune]

i love its historical accuracy and themes and stuff as a turkish person 🗿

[visual willow]

Historical accuracy couldn't matter less

It's a game at the end of the day

[wanton rune]

still

but i just dont get how

communism goes through the turanist way

[solid gyro]

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[molten bison]

pick pack for a long winter

We saw what happened to enver pashas armies

[solid gyro]

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[wanton rune]

thats why they need to prepare

[torn steppe]

90176677617808403

[solid gyro]

OH MAN

cant wait for the IMO thing in AAT

[visual willow]

i can

[pure schooner]

Why? Its look really exciting

Also will it be in base game

Or must we get the dlc

[visual willow]

Yes, but i can wait

We dont want another bba launch

[pure schooner]

What happened

[west patio]

I had 0 issues with BBA launch

are you talking about the peace conferences?

The MIO's kinda seem like bloat ngl. I obviously haven't had my hands on it yet, but I don't feel like that mechanic needed an update that costs you more political power

also rip early 1940 cruisers as USA

Unless the thing that replaced that MIO can be modified to be a better buff to research speed idk

[tardy knot]

Is it just me or does the dev diary feel a little rushed?

[solid gyro]

I dont think rushed

Just short

Cause there isn't much to say about IMO

Next week's will prolly be short too

Actually next week is the last one

[jaunty yacht]

Probably next week will be artwork

Since there really isn't much to show anymore

[solid gyro]

They said it would be the International Market

[tawdry ore]

Is there a way to prevent my game from updating, I don’t wanna lose every mod and wait months or years to use em again.

[stray pewter]

hey guys

join mp1

[mellow rapids]

i completely dont understand what MIO are

[hoary robin]

What’s MIO

[silent cliff]

The MIOs seem broken and awesome. If you work well with your alliance y’all will be able to produce some amazing stuff

[visual willow]

Yeah just patch your game to a previous version via steam betas

[visual willow]

Soooo it's an MP only feature

[solid gyro]

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[silent cliff]

@visual willow not multiplayer only, but it will be far more powerful in it lol

[winter crown]

not exactly but u can go revert to a past version

i think theres a tutorial for it

its in steam

idk for others tho

but ur prob using steam so ur good

[solid gyro]

No, but go to> manage>properties>betas then just choose the one you want

[urban gazelle]

HOI4 Military Industrial Complex update let's gooo

[vocal basin]

It's what I'm most exited about in aat

[solid gyro]

im most excited about the international arms market

[vocal basin]

Civ greed go brrr

[vocal basin]

Least useful mp feature

[solid gyro]

i can finally now sell my surplus tech and equipment AND Buy TONS OF SURPLUS

[vocal basin]

Unless you use to civ boost

[solid gyro]

alr

[mellow rapids]

Actually the Arm market may be fun in MP

[solid gyro]

It may be good in general

[sage hound]

"ai will take over the world" mfs when i unplug the power cord

[solid gyro]

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the game doesnt really get updated though

they just sell updates for 20 dollars

so this should be latest dlcs

[solid gyro]

Will they ever

Fix the Italian Civilwar mechanic

Its annoying to form rome and then collapse because you lost a random state in africa you cored

Forming Rome is a detriment

[merry pike]

yea its annoying as shit

sometimes u dont even lose any states the meter just tips too much and u lose musolini

[hollow lion]

They tend not to fix any smaller stuff

[merry pike]

and all the buffs

[hollow lion]

Quite annoyingly

[merry pike]

also has germany been weak for anybody lately

on historical & no mods they can't seen to push back past kyiv in most of my runs

[final stag]

Basically you can win with only civs, and an only mils teamate.

By the looks of it*

@hollow lion

[vocal basin]

Only for rp

In historical it's pointless

It's just leandlease but you need civs

[mellow rapids]

No ?

Because compared to lend lease it work without being at war

[molten bison]

and u gain civs if u sell

[mellow rapids]

And it way more reliable than lend lease

Like you need 2000 tank, buy 2000 tank

[vocal basin]

Can't you just ask for 2000 tank

[vocal basin]

Well that is true

But during the war it would be useless

[mellow rapids]

I think you can just ask for tank and then the AI will give you what she can

For lend lease i mean

[vocal basin]

No I was talking about mp

For sp this mechanic is great but for mp it's pointless

[mellow rapids]

We will see

[solid gyro]

Its not small though

It totally breaks Rome

[solid gyro]

No, if you're playing a nation and can't produce enough guns you can buy during a war

Like your forgetting you can buy stuff

Which makes it easier to produce Tanks and build a small airforce

[hollow lion]

For them its sml

[solid gyro]

That's dum

Hoi4 General strike time

Boycott Italy!!

[solid gyro]

It could be easily Fixed by basically removing the Balance of Power when you take "Strengthen the Regime"

And it'd make sense, cause of the focus name

[visual willow]

Or just... don't have a permanenrly ticking down counter you can't remove nor let it go infinitely up either

[vocal basin]

Well yes that is true but I'm talking about this through an mp prospective

In single player it is a very good feature

But for mp it's pointless besides rp that is

[hollow lion]

Make a marketing campaign so PDX will hire me as bugfixer, ez

[solid gyro]

Yes

[woven sierra]

what the hell did TNO update again

or the TNO 2WRW submod

[heavy wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[heavy wolf]

"Politics isnt allowed in general chat"

[hollow lion]

In any chat

[hard smelt]

[molten bison]

iceland focus tree in aat???

release it

iceland is so historically important to ww2

[ionic grove]

hi

https://tenor.com/view/fat-fatman-fatcells-brainskinhairfat-funnyfatman-gif-13621294

[ionic grove]

are you the pinkertons for realsy?

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-pinkerton-gif-26392758

[hard smelt]

different ones but yes i am

[ionic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/puces-gif-26307680

[hard smelt]

does thou thinkest a flamethrower would saved thine life ?

[ionic grove]

mr beamn

https://tenor.com/view/lions-gif-10424854448940808245

[plush geyser]

turned down my hoi4 graphics a lil too much

[molten bison]

Abdulaziz Ibn Saud was arrested in January after he allegedly tried to enter a restaurant and steal food at the bar and then was shot by a KV-1

[weary peak]

I played that game it has Fish

[dense sail]

hoi4 in roblox 💀💀💀

[gusty mason]

Hoi-2

[drowsy flame]

Iron Assault moment

[solid gyro]

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[solid gyro]

isnt that like worldbox

[dense sail]

..................
World box... isn't on roblox......
and it's nothing like hoi4.......

[weary peak]

worlddbox is good but hoi4 is way better

sad worldbox doesnt have way better diplomacy

[lunar folio]

But that is Worlbox. The game they showed was Worldbox.

[molten bison]

It is worldbox

[solid gyro]

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[solar inlet]

i still don't get why the mp40 is named mp38 in hoi4

[mellow rapids]

Or why chinese Ppsh 41 (i think it's this one the last infantry equipment of PRC) Is better than russian Ppsh (they got it one level earlier)

[lunar folio]

The MP 40 was the MP 38, but also only one of them was a mainline standard use weapon

[simple fjord]

its worldbox

[solid gyro]

Excited for AAT. Imagining the Finnish monarchy tree is gonna be similar to the papal one in that it’s a secret path that’s triggered by external factors

[hoary robin]

What do u mean it’s still so clear 😍

[mellow rapids]

i want to try monarchist sweden while earing some sabaton carolus rex

[spare epoch]

You can use the Market for ground and Air equipment but not ships?? Why

[molten bison]

i have learned how to be mongolian

[visual willow]

ok

[visual willow]

spaghetti code is my bet

[spare epoch]

Then I put my hopes on the modders

[zenith cargo]

because ships are not equipment

[solid gyro]

Will older Focus trees with the decision between local and foreign designs be updated to give subsidies?

Like Hungary and Bulgaria?

[hollow lion]

🤔

[zenith cargo]

They aren't. They are other objects, just like railway guns.

[analog scarab]

I get what you're saying, but still looking at the phrasing and noticing convoys.

What's listed is a gameplay limitation that could be overcome. I think what would be more appropriate is simply pointing out that giving Germany the ability to straight up buy someone's fleets with a bunch of clams is a bad time. From a "this still needs to be a functional game" standpoint, it just doesn't fit.

[torpid quest]

ayyyy more majors

[solid gyro]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lilac gull]

Hoi4 Now looks like territorial.io

[torpid quest]

Major cities with the big circles like Moscow in the new update

Danzig smolensk and a bunch of new cities will majors

Check out bittersweets new Finland video

Bittersteel

[polar jasper]

Excited for my new paratrooper divisions

[molten bison]

I noticed the city change earlier when they did the dev diary on one of the nations

I don’t think the VPs changed just that some are now circles

[molten bison]

7 days till aat

[hoary robin]

Can’t wait

[molten bison]

njett molotoff!

[dense sail]

so hyped for aat because germany is finally getting a communist path in their focus tree

[visual willow]

where you getting that from

[molten bison]

💀

his source is someones ass

[polar jasper]

Error 404: Communist path not found

[molten bison]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1056368947282333756/1116396562734657606/caption.gif

[solid gyro]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[torn copper]

Look at the news feed for 1 second.

[solid gyro]

We've seen all models except for the Norweigan ones

Why does Paradox hide them

Is this a conspiracy

[pseudo wing]

Norway doesn't exist

we've also deleted belgium

[solid gyro]

Norway is Danish propaganda to convince us they were Relevant

[pseudo wing]

Denmark is just European Canada

[solar yacht]

you wish, everyone knows that canada other name is European territory of North America

[pseudo wing]

what is this canada slander

thats it, you're being sentenced to 10x runs as dutch east indies with permanent great depression debuff

[solar yacht]

you mean European territory of South Eastern Asia? will do 😄

[pseudo wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1079566549951709364/1093245718573097030/AutoMemes.gif

[molten bison]

that dd is crazy

[solid gyro]

@pseudo wing You guys are amazing

Mods not breaking on DLC release

Is like the best thing

About this dlc

[proven dawn]

(Sad that GW:R wasn't featured

[molten bison]

yeah tbh that is really good

[molten bison]

yeah thats the only mod i play alot thats missing 🫠

[solid gyro]

I winder

Does Pax Brittanica have new trees

[proven dawn]

Meanwhile my beloved Oman expanded mod not hitting up the list:

[molten bison]

damn

thats awful

cant believe they left out oman expanded

[proven dawn]

You know what?

I'll wait for Desert Wind DLC to relase

[molten bison]

🔥 🏜️

[proven dawn]

So I don't have to cry for the Oman mod

That will not work

[hollow lion]

Where kaiserreich

[plain elm]

To many mods for the art, but they are on the list in the DD!

[pseudo wing]

I tried to include everyone I could in the image, just too many of em' to all fit in the asset

[molten bison]

what about the oman mod

i havent played it but

someone has played it

[quick barn]

So that is the other announcement the challenge message was talking about ?

[cursive yacht]

When does arms against tyranny release?

[solid gyro]

Oct 10th

[versed cosmos]

WE GOT 6 MORE DAYS BOYS!

[jolly adder]

hi

[spice shoal]

Cant believe hearts of minecraft isnt here

Smh...

[brisk geode]

hi

[hollow lion]

welcome

[deft glade]

When will you add the ability to make, design, and upload/download custom division icons?

[proven dawn]

I hope the AAT release will be greeted warm unlike BBA which is mostly negative

[lunar folio]

I mean, depends on whether it's good

While I think BBA is better than it gets credit for, since the problem actually remained in the free update not the DLC, it nonetheless had a botched release and some issues in content

[solid gyro]

why I can't win any battle?

[elder brook]

the DLC looks bussin

so I think most people will give it a good rating

unless the international arms market sucks, that is

I think they know how important it is so hopefully they made the AI use it properly lol

[visual willow]

No other way to really let them know they Fed up

[hollow lion]

just make a mod

should even be ironman save

[alpine sphinx]

I saw a mod l yesterday that changes the icons, I know it can be done

[hollow lion]

it should be really easy

I dont know if you expand the amount of icons if itll be ironman safe by default, but if you replace it almost certainly is

[tardy knot]

no way

[drowsy flame]

no way

[proven dawn]

House of Kurds vol. 2

No way

[wispy basin]

Thats cool

This looks so epic

[dense moon]

The Iceland achieventments seems mostly impossible

I was hoping for an achievement for where you survive as Denmark

[harsh hull]

It's probably part of their Communist tree, those "uprising" things

Honestly, you could probably get the Scots and the Welsh to rise up against the English for a crisp fiver and a pint after

[wispy basin]

I think iceland will be like aussa

[obtuse falcon]

#hearts-of-iron-news message

I know exactly which film Paradox was inspired by for this art 😄

https://youtu.be/YZ79i11JSnU

[wispy basin]

This art is amazing

[sweet quarry]

it was part of my theme setting assets for the expansion and I used as a references for the loading screen options I gave the artists. excellent film

[obtuse falcon]

Indeed

[wispy basin]

The ship was destoyed on april 9th the same day is my birthday

[solid gyro]

Lmao

I feel like we're being livebomved fr Paradox just keeps releasing more stuff

[solid gyro]

Should be wayyy easier though, just unite the nordic

[visual willow]

or if you just started with your achievments run do it alognside house of kurds during your fascist britain world conquest run

[wispy basin]

I think the sapmi achievment is easy just go communist and join the ussr and invade finnland norway and sweden

[visual willow]

lol no do none of these things

just play soviets, justify day 1, release yourself as sami whilst owning them all

if you just want the achievment it will be quite dumb to just release yourself as sami in 36

[wispy basin]

I did the kurdistan achievment the same way i go cummunist join the ussr and invade turkiye

[visual willow]

i didn't say you could not do it that way
it's just an extremely tedious way to do it

[wispy basin]

Ok

[visual willow]

if you just want a fun game as sami i don't know why you would condemn yourself to ironman mode either

[wispy basin]

Ok

I try to get 110 achievments before the dlc comes out

Currently i have 107 achievments

[molten bison]

cant do both at same time

cuz u have to release and play

[spice pendant]

Why is the country that allies with the nazis considered a bastion of freedom

“Arms against tyranny” my ass Finland had concentration camps and served in aiding the deaths of hundreds of thousands of civilians during the battle of leningrad

[spice pendant]

Also the only requirement is that you are in a 2 country faction with another nordic country
This will age awfully poorly when someone does it after becoming fascist finland

[visual willow]

Yeah and after just reload

[molten bison]

wdym by that?

[molten bison]

[spice pendant]

I meant to say leningrad and said stalingrad instead XD

has been fixed

I’m just stupid

My brain is turned off at this hour

[molten bison]

oh ok

but didnt mannerheim state he wouldnt give the germans a single finnish jew?

[visual willow]

Release yourself, get achievment, reload save to be britain again

[molten bison]

save scumming?

[visual willow]

Not really

Save scumming is a bit more specific

[molten bison]

yes really cuz u cant just load a save

on ironman

[visual willow]

Alt f4 and reload

[molten bison]

yeah

[visual willow]

You already got the achievment, no reason to do it again

[spice pendant]

Yeah he did it was actually a pretty funny situation

Finnish jews were fighting alongside Nazi soldiers

[molten bison]

w h a t

[spice pendant]

There was a political scandal at one point because the finns handed over 8 jews to nazi germany

7 of which got murdered immediately

[wispy basin]

reminds of a scene from the movie predator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD-fBj4d9Ck&t=16s

[steep isle]

didn't they turn on the germans doe? and didn't they only join the Axis since both Germany and Finland hated the communists?

I mean finland isn't that great, but still it's not the most terrible

[spice pendant]

They turned on the germans because the soviet union defeated the fins and forced Finland to kick out German troops
Also how does the fact Finland hated communism somehow justify the alliance with the nazis XD

[karmic moon]

It was an alliance of convenience. Finland's hate for the Soviet Union far outweighed their hate for Germany. Imagine that some kid stole your backpack at school and then another kid you hated offered to help you get it back. While you may hate their guts you'd still take the offer. An alliance of convenience and not one of love.

Finland only helped in Barbarossa up to their pre winter war borders.

[wispy basin]

can we please talk about something else

[karmic moon]

Yeah, good idea

[wispy basin]

whats your fav nordic nation in arms against tyranny?

[spice pendant]

Iceland

Judging by the recent dev diary they’re getting content

[vale drum]

Hopefully paradox is going to add an achievement to conquer all these countries as norway

[spice pendant]

And I’m very excited to see how hoi4 will hane it

[wispy basin]

my fav is sweden or norway i like finnland too but i dont realy like denmark

[spice pendant]

Yeah finland seems terribly boring

*denmark

damnit.

My brain is turned off

[karmic moon]

They seem like they'll get steam rolled fast. Like a historical Poland game

[wispy basin]

i dont like the political tree for denmark

[spice pendant]

I think sweden and finland will probably be the best in terms of content

[spice pendant]

Tbh I’m very scared of the cg rework

Mostly because no more 0% consumer goods easily

[karmic moon]

NOOOOOOOO

Muh consumer goods!

[spice pendant]

The new system is a bit more complicated and change is scary

[wispy basin]

i think denmark have the most ez achievment in the game just get 100% welfare

[spice pendant]

I was very scared of nsb when it first released because it seemed to change a lot of fundamental aspects of the game

But eventually I got used to it

[spice pendant]

The dev diary says “somehow” so I assume it may be rather difficult

[vale drum]

spooky

[wispy basin]

i like the tanks

[karmic moon]

Russians when they meet Simo Häyhä

[vale drum]

It's coming out in october so it makes sense

[wispy basin]

the sould run faster with arms aginst tyranny

[karmic moon]

I like the reindeer cavalry

[wispy basin]

same

i like this loading screen

[karmic moon]

The art team did really well from what I've seen so far

[wispy basin]

i agree

[solid gyro]

I wonder if they updates the fitch to have the armoured car too

[solid gyro]

Wh9lich models are thes

[karmic moon]

Just assorted infantry models in the new dev diary

[wispy basin]

this is my fav tank that will be added as a model in arms against tyranny

[wispy basin]

i think reindeers look better than horses and camels combined

in hoi4

[karmic moon]

All we need now is emu cavalry for Australia

[wispy basin]

yes

i dont like the name nygaardsvold every time i try to pronouce it i sound racist

[wispy basin]

rate arms against tyranny from 1 to 10

[modest parcel]

arms/tyranny

[wispy basin]

thats basicly me in the winter

[karmic moon]

Wait has it already come out?

[jaunty nymph]

no

October 10th

[wispy basin]

no but how do u like it from everything you know about it

[karmic moon]

I guess 8/10, seems interesting

[wispy basin]

i give it a 9/10

[proven dawn]

Heh would be funny if Iceland would've got a mini focus tree

Something similar to Aussa

Because I love Iceland

And 2 manpower

[spice pendant]

I’m scared of it being another battle for the bosphorus tbh

It’s pretty expensive for a dlc that doesn’t add that much

[wispy basin]

Its more than nothing

I pre ordered the dlc

[wispy basin]

At least its not a by blood alone

[spice pendant]

Same

[karmic moon]

Same, the music was just to good to say no to

[wispy basin]

Yes

I'm exited about the new music because they add 7 or 8 new tracs about the nordic countrys

[solid gyro]

I wonder what the 3rd one is, looks like a paratrooper

They

Missed a chance to make the acheivment "Truckin to Moscow"

But atleast there is an Iceland tree

Also maybe secret Sweden path?

[versed cosmos]

4 MORE DAYS GUYS

[karmic moon]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[civic garnet]

It did get a focus tree?

[spice pendant]

Pydgin made a vide on it

https://youtu.be/jrVyI2djWgo?si=JUpnD0R9d9tULQ_N

[high merlin]

hey brothers, i have a question, is there any information bout the release time? i mean, not the date, the exact time of day

[spice pendant]

I assume around 4-5 PM CET

[high merlin]

thx

[solid gyro]

Insane

PDX really wen all out

[civic garnet]

This dlc seems actually worth it comparing to some of the first dlcs that came out

Lots more content and more worth the price

[deft stump]

Hello, a question will the international market and industrial organization be paid?

[solid gyro]

Probably yes

I think only changes not paid are to special forces

[long ruin]

oh everyone gets finland

thats cool

[solid gyro]

Actually?

[long ruin]

just historical

so its basically Poland

[solid gyro]

That's actually sweet

[wispy basin]

my fav nation in arms aginst tyranny is sweden and denmark

[azure narwhal]

Ju-52?

Would be nice to see more 3d models of transport planes while paradropping personel/supplies

[solid gyro]

Iceland :

[winter haven]

Dumb question: so I preordered AAT and it says it will release on October 10th but it also said 2 more days and 2 days from now for me is October 9th, (I think) is this a glitch or do I just not know how to do basic math

[wispy basin]

its diffent because of the timezone

[hallow pivot]

When is the update coming?

Or is It already out?

[visual willow]

look at the trailer

[molten bison]

they naval invaded it

so now i cant do demand qingdao

[supple stream]

sa

[late finch]

Are there any new or revamped focus trees other than norway, swedeni finland and denmark in AAT?

[visual willow]

yes, iceland

[late finch]

Good :D btw which dlc ads the baltics? no step back?

[frozen oxide]

Yep no step back adds baltic trees

[late finch]

Ok i think i will also buy that one

[elder brook]

no step back is a must have

such a banger dlc

[late finch]

Yeah but i don't know how to use the tank designer

[polar jasper]

Don't worry, they will add presets in the new update

[late finch]

Oh great i guess i will buy AAT and no step back

[elder brook]

unless you already have a bunch of dlc's i would recommend the subscription

if you play on and off you don't have to pay for it every month as well

just whenever you play

[late finch]

Yeah i do have a bunch there are like 3 missing

[elder brook]

alr

[devout fractal]

Will Greenland and Iceland get a focus tree, nobody talks about them so I'm unsure?

[late finch]

iceland?

yeah

not greenland tho

[devout fractal]

Sad that they forgot the greenish people

[proven dawn]

Historical Focus tree for Finland for free on update launch?

Sounds cool!

[visual willow]

They've less to do then iceland

[devout fractal]

Now we need a dlc for the leftover Nation like Austria, Albania, Greenland, Malaysia and Tibet

[late finch]

Austria could be some sort of oppose hitler kind of focus tree where you don’t do the anschuls and instead go to war with germany with buffs like the german civil war

[mossy cedar]

but the real question is

do we get a free week like last year?

[versed nymph]

you can do that already i think lol

go austria-hungry

[harsh hull]

Well, now we've finally had the Nordics, which was the last "big" missing area, so what's next year, you suppose?

I want to believe we're going back to the Asian theater for Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, and maybe just maybe an India rework

But staying in Europe for all the remaining nations there - Austria, Belgium, Albania, and maybe just maybe Luxembourg - sounds neat as well

Never a South America DLC though, Paradox would never be that spicy

[solid gyro]

Iceland was more of a meme

Greenland will likely not gey one

[solid gyro]

Austria would actually have quite a bit to do

Given they just left a civilwar a year prior, and the influence of Fascism was heavy

So likely you could have an "Austrofascism" Path which see you looking at Itsly for Guarentee

A path where you put the Nazis in charge, and have Arthur Seyss-Inquart as the head of some sort of RK Austria

Or play as a collaboration govt

Then a path with a civilwsr that splits into either looking at western or Balkan gaurentees, or a Communist path where you look for society guarentees

*with fail-safes in place for non-historical

[paper estuary]

I think PDX shared a couple of years ago a plan for the future sheet, and South America was there, among Scandinavia and smth else
Someone shared it here once if I'm not mistaken

[paper estuary]

I any case, tho, I place my bet on either a dlc for the Middle East or for the remaining nations of Europe (probably centered on Austria and Belgium – I myself hope that's would be an opportunity for an overhaul of Czechoslovakia political tree)

[pure schooner]

When will the dlc be released

What time what timezone

[tacit vessel]

Found this bug in arms against tyranny

[pure schooner]

Wait how do u have dlc alr

[tacit vessel]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i got this off youtube

the ss

[pure schooner]

Oh…

[pure schooner]

Well when will it be released

Like the time and timezone

[tacit vessel]

Swedish timezone probably

Time itself unknown but based on last couple dlcs probablly 12 am

[proven dawn]

Forgot about Belgium and Dutch East Indies

I thought that Indonesia could have a fascist Path where they either instigate anti-colonial uprising on their own to reform the Majapath empire or whatever it's called or align with Japan to be become imperial associate with some military bonuses or something like that

[visual willow]

I think the default tree should be reworked first

[tight blaze]

Ireland ⁉️

[nimble torrent]

Did the devs say anything about a doctrine rework btw?
Kinda hoping it's in the next update/dlc they make

[cedar cave]

they prob didnt

but theyre adding a special forces doctrine tab so theres that

[supple oriole]

Is there an exact date for the dlc?

[solid gyro]

Yes

Tomorrow

[supple oriole]

Really?

I guess no sleep today.

[spare epoch]

Latest dev diary talks about Agility and Speed impacting the combat more. However I can't recall an update that addressed the maths behind that.

Is it a lot more? Insignificant?

[pure schooner]

Some things in the dev diary makes no sense

Like why would paradox change the air wing deployment time to a WHOLE MONTH

[spare epoch]

YEEE

That's a wtf

[pure schooner]

And now equipment capture isnt possible unless there’s tanks?

Like

Why????

[spare epoch]

But of course. The tanks collect the equipment

[pure schooner]

💀

[spare epoch]

They have claws and shovels

[cedar cave]

what

[spare epoch]

I don't even know where to start with "new navy hit profile calculation"

[pure schooner]

Yep

[spare epoch]

145>100 for torpedo?!?;

WHY

THEY ALREADY CARRIED THE GAME

W H Y

[cedar cave]

then what happens to the infantry leaders with the trait more eqiupment capture

[pure schooner]

Idk

[spare epoch]

I think there still is a flat amount

Just not a scale

But hey that's why the roadmap is for. I am sure many stuff will change the first month

[pure schooner]

• Maintenance Company Research 3 now provides 1% Equipment Capture per armor battalion in a division, from 5% flat

[spare epoch]

No flat

Got it

AH WAIT

says 3

And what the 2 provides

[pure schooner]

OHHHH

Wheew

[spare epoch]

3*

So we get the flat. And just the 3 gives the scale

Supposedly

Ship Armor effectiveness got buffed

Since now you need more Pierce to deal damage

[pure schooner]

But still, the air wing deployment time

[spare epoch]

There are "thresholds"

I am sire

Sure

That will change to like...7 days

Who needs 30 days to deploy 100 planes I swear

True, the instant deploy was...odd

But from 0 to 30?

Regardless . Updates seem fine.

Threw a wrecking ball at my notebook

Because everything needs re adjustment

But that's the game.

[pure schooner]

Wasnt even instant

It took a couple of days

[spare epoch]

I think two

Ye

[pure schooner]

Also whats the new tank meta

[spare epoch]

Idfk man they said they re adjusted many equipment

Much

So the costs are...

To be determined

Plus armor got buffed

10-20% more

So... definitely a good thing for tanks

Other than that

Despite support company yields and width

I think it will remain the same.

[proven dawn]

Did anybody notice the VP's change?

Where cities with above 10 VP's have a hexagon

So they're like important cities?

Like łódź Smolensk or Orleans

[tawny escarp]

Game breaking dev diary typo

[spice spade]

What time will the new dlc be released tomorrow?

[proven dawn]

OOPS

[cloud snow]

Omfg literally unplayable

[wispy basin]

i think 16:00 or 15:35

[fallow flare]

Anyone know what time the update drops NA EST

[arctic glacier]

Woo hoo im about to get the pre release song for 20 dollars!!!

[fallow flare]

haha pre release song totally worth it

[lilac gust]

In about 24 hours from now

[fallow flare]

thxs

[mortal thunder]

Is it a net loss to sell weapons to build another mill how long until u gain a profit from it

[quaint rivet]

for me it says already 20

[dull tundra]

iceland ?

[solid gyro]

yes I think so.

[dull tundra]

nice

[frigid kernel]

It’s Austria not Iceland

Trust

[molten bison]

Dollars are less then euros

Yet it costed 20 euros

@pdx team I got scammed

[small venture]

When does the update come out

[karmic moon]

Austria should totally be next

[karmic moon]

What time zone are you in?

[small venture]

german time berlin

[karmic moon]

7 Pm

[neat thorn]

7 pm

[small venture]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[calm trout]

I'm from Poland, when will patch come?

[frigid kernel]

Nigdy

[calm trout]

Nie no o której

Bo idk czy czekać

[frigid kernel]

Tak jak powiedziałem

Nigdy

Nie, żartuje, za 15 godzin

[twin maple]

Welcome to AAT!

[harsh hull]

Ayo, what's Paradox cooking in these patch notes

[versed cosmos]

idk, we GOT 1 MORE DAY THOUGH!

[solid gyro]

Yonow I'm pretty sure the Dev Team got the Joint Focus idea from Kaiserreich

[versed cosmos]

probably

[solid gyro]

Cause Kaiserreich had a Joint-Scandanivian tree before BBA was announced

[tacit vessel]

IS IT OUT

[versed cosmos]

no

[tacit vessel]

bruh

i bug reported AAT already

yk why

i found a bug in a youtube video on it

Haha

[versed cosmos]

lol

[tacit vessel]

AAT hasnt event come out yet and I already found a bug

[versed cosmos]

lol

[twin maple]

Today is 10/10 in the Philippines

[versed cosmos]

i just watched a stakuyi vid on all countries, it looks like gdansk is gonna be a major city

[tacit vessel]

nnice

[frigid kernel]

Yeaaa 💪💪💪💪💪

[versed cosmos]

Les go

[frigid kernel]

gdansk numer jeden

davajjjj

@versed cosmos thoughts on the forest brothers?

[versed cosmos]

They real mfs

They the homies

[frigid kernel]

L opinion

[vagrant tide]

Should be released in about 13 hours

so 12 PM EST

[vagrant tide]

no u

[solid gyro]

https://discord.com/channels/183787140671471616/206862910973149185

[merry zenith]

yo so, how many hours till it drops?

as in the dlc

[shy wing]

so to confirm, that means about 10.5 hours to go as of now?

[vagrant tide]

yea

[vagrant tide]

12 PM EST

It's on the steam page for the dlc

[merry zenith]

sweet as :D

[vagrant tide]

😄

[shy wing]

yeah, its only showing now, previosuly it was just showing tom.

[vagrant tide]

yea

[merry zenith]

gotta stay up till 3 am to play this soon as it drops

this is gonna be hype

[vagrant tide]

If you did preorder when did you?

I did the day the preorder came out lmao

[merry zenith]

i preorderd the other day

[vagrant tide]

for BBA it was 30 mins

[merry zenith]

so hyped