latest-updates

[solid gyro]

So like not an extreme conservative government but a Democratic-Conservative lead

[warm elk]

just with political assasinations, several coups and even a civil war before THE actual Spanish civil war beforehand

[polar jasper]

The center did not hold, partially due to how polarized spain was then

[warm elk]

strikes, an inefficient economical system

and most importantly ; the factions within the Republic's own armies

which is basically what lead to the conflict in the first place

[solid gyro]

I think like you coukd utilize that

[warm elk]

perhaps there could be a balance of power mechanic like they did in Italy

if you go into the radical extreme of one side the civil war begins

[polar jasper]

The republican army was a mess.

The Soviets only aided the communists so the POUM, CNT-FAI, and the rest of the Republicans got no aid.

The communists kept gaining power and to consolidate it, they cracked down on the anarchists, no full scale rebellion though

[warm elk]

stay somewhere in the middle, which would resemble conservatism ( no bonuses )

[polar jasper]

Also why are we talking history in latest updates and not #history

[warm elk]

well i mean the updates channel has just become a "possible mod / HOI4 update discussion" section

no one is talking about the newest update anymore lmao

[polar jasper]

We were mostly talking about the beta patch

And soon to be new dev diaries

[warm elk]

can't deny that

to be honest, getting rid of the monarchy is what pretty much sealed Spain's fate in the 1930's

even just sticking with conservatism just seems almost impossible due to the amount of factions, sketchy foreign actions within it, etc. that were literally everywhere in Spain's politics

[solid gyro]

Idk

If Primo de Rivera stayed on power stuff could've ended very different

Especially since his son basically created Falangism

[warm elk]

@jaunty nymph omg omg paradox plz make this an update plz plz plz

🥵

[jaunty nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nuh-gif-25159854

[slender blade]

the polarisation was only present in the political elite and governement
the majority population were mildly right leaning centrists

[solid gyro]

Isn’t the civil war easy?

[warm elk]

it's not

[solid gyro]

I did an anarchist run once

It was really simple

U can win as republicans even before anarchist or communists start another front, its real easy

Yeah

No

[lunar folio]

I personally find Carlist to be the only slightly difficult one

Otherwise it's pretty dang easy

[solid gyro]

Spain is beginners sandbox

Early and fair war, that dont need much tactics to win

[solid gyro]

YEAH

i like the new DD

[hushed shuttle]

bruh they are literally destroying the early game viability of 7-2's

[narrow lance]

I dont understand, This is like tfb now?

[solar yacht]

i don't know tfb but I'm pretty sure the sentence means that artillery, anti air and anti tank will be a different battalion type from infantry. It will be interesting to see what happens with motorized artillery, aa and at

[narrow lance]

tfb is like.. uhh lemme open the game to show ya

[solar yacht]

now it is mobile, infantry and tank. With patch will probably be infantry, artillery, mobile and tank

[narrow lance]

This is TFB's take on the designer

I assume it is gonna be like that?

[solar yacht]

probably yes

[narrow lance]

Alright

[solar yacht]

not sure about the motorized variant of the artillery pieces

I didn't see any mention on the devblog about them

there is only "This extends to mobile battalion and armored battalion categories." so I suppose the division will be the same even for motorized

so the type of battalions will be infantry, artillery, motorized, motorized artillery, tank

5 total, 2 up from the present 3

[narrow lance]

That would make the most sense to be honest

[solar yacht]

yes but motorized infantry would have only two battalions, motorized infantry and mechanized infantry

[narrow lance]

Hmm, True..

[solar yacht]

leg infantry at least will continue to have infantry + 3 special forces

we also need to see about the new special forces battalions that will be possible to unlock

[narrow lance]

Amtracs? arent those in motorized?

[solar yacht]

yes true

also camels and cavalry

[narrow lance]

Yep

[solar yacht]

ok fair enough mobile type has enough

[narrow lance]

maybe some sort of special motorized? nah too op

My question now is; where will the SP's go?

Will they stay in armoured?

sp aa, sp arty, etc

[solar yacht]

they could have a category for themselves

[narrow lance]

True

It would be enough battalions

considering heavy, light and medium

and super heavy (if that is a thing now)

[solar yacht]

super heavy will probably be only support, I think it was in the last devblog

[narrow lance]

No that was tanks i think

Super heavy sps

It said super heavy tanks, not aa and stuff

[solar yacht]

aren't super heavies already restricted at tank or TD roles only?

I use them so few times that I'm not sure anymore 😅

[narrow lance]

i dont use them either, but i remember seeing "Super Heavy SP Anti Air" somewhere or something

[solar yacht]

Yea they can be SPGs or SPAAGs

no idea what they will decide for those, they could become possible support companies too or maybe they will be removed

[narrow lance]

who even uses those

arent they super late game and expensive?

[solid gyro]

id like to see added is Stormtroopers,light infantry and heavy infantry

[narrow lance]

by the time you have one division its like 46

[solar yacht]

yea they are, and they can be pierced anyway with how piercing works so no real point in using them

[solar yacht]

we could see something similar in the new special forces trees

[mellow rapids]

They can be useful for some spacemarine BS

[solid gyro]

Ah alr

[solar yacht]

for sure there was mountain artillery

and probably artic battalions

[solid gyro]

im gonna use the new SF units to breakthrought USSR

[solar yacht]

not sure special forces will be viable for the barbarossa front, I think tanks and normal infantry will still be king there. Just because of the amount needed

[solid gyro]

alr

[solar yacht]

unless in MP if you use a minor and do a SF build

it will be probably fun to defend in the winter war with artic SF against russian troops, and maybe rangers if paradox adds them

[solid gyro]

alr

[solid gyro]

Y’all think we’ll get a feature diary type vid tomorrow? Last week we got a small dev diary on Wednesday followed by a larger video on Thursday

[visual willow]

woudln't be surprised but i'm not expecting it either

[solid gyro]

Likely it's every few weeks

They only make like 4/5

[acoustic creek]

There is something funny about having to research having more soldiers together in a brigade

[outer cave]

Anybody have any idea what month arms against tyranny will be released?

[solid gyro]

Probably August or September

Cause BBA was huge and released in early september

[solid gyro]

I just realized we may be able to get paradropable tanks

Also I wish they'd add glider infantry

[solar yacht]

it is possible, maybe light tanks paradrop battalions or support

[solid gyro]

I beleive those support battalions exist

But if my memory is correct I think Tetrachs were able to be sent by glider

As well as smaller heeps

Jeeps*

[harsh hull]

No, heaps is probably the right word for a paradropped truck

[solar yacht]

light tanks were used and paradropped but I don't think they were very successful

M22 Locust is an example

I'm still pretty happy to see some improvement to the special forces

as they are now they are quite lacking

[analog scarab]

https://youtu.be/l-YsSL65quM

[solid gyro]

To be honest I don't think Special forces get that much of an edge for how restricted they are

The only ones that are really useful are the expensive Amtrack divisions

Or Paratroopers when you're fighting England or any nation you can't naval invade

[solid gyro]

id like to see a new unit added with this DLC:
conscripts

[solid gyro]

Eh

It'd be more like Militia units

alr

[solid gyro]

Actually they already have that

In Swiss Militia

Also the Blackshirts

And the uh Sefari

[solar yacht]

you already have conscripts. You choose a conscription law and unless you are using only volunteers (or disarmed nation as you have no soldiers) most of your army will always be formed by conscripts

[solid gyro]

alr

[solid gyro]

id like to see a flamethrower section unit

[long ruin]

soviets also have penal battallions

[nimble torrent]

do you guys think we'll get some "generic" special forces locked bonus to fighting in winter conditions?
cause i really wanna see winter offensives being doable

[analog scarab]

I don't think that's necessarily a special forces thing. That's more just wanting cold/hot acclimatization to be actually meaningful. Like a research tech that gives your country access to a good hat and some gloves, as well as a reminder post-it note telling you to actually bring them to the front.

[spice shoal]

inexperienced infantry with a -25% debuff:

[spice shoal]

don’t mountaineers get a minor winter buff? (I might just be thinking of the forest buff)

[solid gyro]

Likely no, since it'd probably mean a rework of the entire system. But I do beleive some research techs do give acclimation for special forces

And tbh Mountsineers should get a bonus for cold acclamation

[long haven]

dead channel

[molten bison]

There’s a flame tank support company which requires you to add a flamethrower to a tank and mark it as a flame tanks (no step back tank designer)

[hollow lion]

@novel portal wrong place

[severe compass]

Question; how would you even implement glider infantry in a game like Hearts of Iron IV?

[polar jasper]

It is called use paratroopers and have a general with the ability called glider planes

[solid gyro]

Regular infantry that can be transported via-transport plane

With ig less soft attack

Or maybe a cheaper paratrooperinfantey unit that can be transported

With a cap but not special forces

[lunar folio]

I would say just give them ordinary paratrooper debuffs

[polar jasper]

Why do people forget that glider planes technically already exist in HOI4.

A general with the paratrooper trait allows the ability glider planes which gives a lot of boosts to paratroopers

[visual willow]

So just a replacement to paratroopers, sounds just bad

[prisma totem]

They are doable only for the Soviet

[nimble torrent]

yeah but that's only if you get order 227, which means being pushed back quite a bit

[solid gyro]

Not a replacement

[visual willow]

everything i have heard so far is just "paratroopers but X" where X is just a strict upgrade

[solid gyro]

Historically the germans use special air transport infantry that would land once the Paratroopers had made a foothold, so the glider I fsntry would basically be infantry that you can send in immediately in order to support your paratroopers

No special forces buff and cannot be used to drop into enemy territory

Only tiles you control

Or maybe even just airport/plain tiles

They can be able to be sent kn red air

But based on interception/AA can take damage

[visual willow]

kill your own troops with this 1 single trick

[solid gyro]

Well yes

But if successful can be like a arctic to keep your paratroopers alive longer and be more useful

With the basic idea being keeping your paratroopers live for longer

Cause rn paratroopers serve little purpose other than cheese

[fossil lantern]

They should allow paradrop during peace time, can’t believe they remove that mechanic

Also pdx should allow airlift infantry between 2 friendly airports but unlike paras they receive heavy debuff during transfer like soft/hard atk, defense and re-org and the unit is unable to attack though it could defend

The weight of units determines airlift duration of said unit and pdx could allow the research of better transports through heavy/medium airframes that shortens airlifts duration as well as improving air supply effectiveness

[muted swan]

doesn't make sense

how could you even counter that

fighters?

and the range would be so short

[fossil lantern]

Obviously and air superiority also can change the damage to airlift units dynamically with 100% air sup being virtually no damage at all. it’s basically emulating convoy mechanics in air warfare

[fossil lantern]

I mentioned that they should allow the production of heavier and more potent longer range transport when researching medium and large airframes, so you wouldn’t be expecting L.tanks to be airlifted until late 44, mediums and MBTs can’t since realistically that technology is unavailable until late 50s and 60s which is out of HoI4’s scope

And to top that i think air lift with permanently remove 4 CP per battalion and 1 per support

[solid gyro]

do you guys think there will be another dev diary today?

[fossil lantern]

I’m craving for one right now

[solid gyro]

same

[fossil lantern]

I’ve been checking my yt notification to notify about features breakdowns every single day

[solid gyro]

well they always release that sort of stuff on wednesdays

[fossil lantern]

So next week i suppose

When do you expect them to release aat

[solid gyro]

15:00 (CET)

[solid gyro]

@fossil lantern

told ya

[pseudo wing]

sometimes the forum doesn't like to work with pushing the post so everything shifts a few minutes late :p

[muted swan]

What happenee

[hushed shuttle]

WOAAAH

i thought this was like the china and baltic ones

modding will be revolutionized

this is like going from waking the tiger to full dlc BBA

for the modding community

[faint isle]

Ngl joint focus seems pretty based

Like imagine the modding potential

[visual willow]

Imagine if they just don't go back to old nations and thus never get to use this again

[spice oyster]

It's sad that they always bring some cool feature but they never use it again

[visual willow]

I can only really think about the factions of the BFTB nations

[spice oyster]

Propaganda from NSB seemed good to me

[visual willow]

Only been 1 dlc tbf

[spice oyster]

Plus internal political factions from BFTB

plus Italian Ethiopian missions / united nations mechanic from BBA

We don't really know what will happen with this new focuses but it's propable that they will make it AAT excusive and then will move up

[harsh hull]

So, the joint focus trees are designed to work for multiplayer, yeah? I'm not misreading that?

[spice oyster]

It's not only one dlc tbf

It's subjective which mechanics you consider good enough to be reused but there's a precedent of them creating specific mechanics that are used only for certain countries

I wanted to point it out in reaction to your post about them never using this mechanic again

[visual willow]

only been 1 dlc since the propoganda events i meant

[spice oyster]

Ah okay

I got it wrong

[solid gyro]

These mechanics you're mentioning are not really core mechanics being added, but rather scripted mechanics meant to give a unique flavor to those countries and make them play more distinctively, so we don't expect to reuse them in other expansions or countries. If you want a closer parallel, Balance of Power is a better point of comparison. It's a new feature that adds a tool for delivering content, that we can use when it makes sense, but not always

[harsh hull]

One of the nordic countries uses a BoP in Arms Against Tyranny, doesn't it?

[solid gyro]

I think two of them last time I checked

[polar jasper]

What I think would be cool is a joint focus tree for the Commonwealth to give those countries more flavor and love

But the focus for the DLC is the Nordics, but if another one of those war operation patches thing comes out, that would be cool to see implemented

[solid gyro]

I hope there will be a generic joint focus tree

For MP

So that you could play neighbors and not have to fear losing

Sucks wanting to play something like Poland if a friend wants to be germany

[polar jasper]

Puppet fascist Poland is actually quite good

[solid gyro]

Well yes

But if you wish to take another path not so much

But uhh

Poland and Romania is a better example

[polar jasper]

Sanation Poland can get Romania in the Allies by doing the Romanian bridgehead strategy

The modding potential for joint focus trees are great as there could be ones for Axis, Comintern, and Allies

But one I want to see in vanilla like I said earlier is one for the Commonwealth

[solid gyro]

I mean like

When playing Poland the only real way to quickly become a major and challenge your neighbors is through the Poland-Romania thing

So a Joint Focus for that would work

Same with the hypothetical

Poland Lithuania

[polar jasper]

I have done decently well as sanation poland. OZN let's you take out thr Czechs and get their industry

I like the idea you have though

However, I do not think a joint focus tree is needed

[solid gyro]

I haven't tried the Sanatation

[polar jasper]

Sanation Left is screwed due to the Czechs always giving up sudeten on historical

Sanation Right is good at conquering

The Castle is just historical

[solid gyro]

What exactly does the Sanatation do with the Czechs exactly

[polar jasper]

Alliance

You make a big faction

But the Czechs throw it away

[solid gyro]

Rip

[polar jasper]

You could easily take out the germans for the most part in 1938, but you cant

If they made Poland able to participate in the Munich conference or being in a faction makes the Czechs not give it up, sanation left would be great

[zenith cargo]

Denmark and Finland has it

[tribal schooner]

Does no one else think it’s kinda weird that the concept is taken almost directly from Equestria, or Millenium Dawn, or Kaisereich and the dev claimed they don’t even know about it? Feels kinda shitty to be charging for this in the next DLC and they can’t even credit where they took the idea from

[long ruin]

Will Joint Focus trees be availiable in mods without the DLC?

[tribal schooner]

Yeah they said the base feature would be available for free. But the Nordic specific one requires DLC

[long ruin]

Thats good then

[polar jasper]

Benefit of the doubt, more than 1 person can have the same idea at different times.

Also you can't really trademark a video game mechanic

[harsh hull]

Also they can't really claim ownership of the idea from the developers who gave them the tools to develop those ideas

[tribal schooner]

Potentially, but I find it difficult to believe that a dev would implement a feature found in the most popular mods for their game, and not be aware. I’m not suggesting it’s trademarked but it feels weird that it’s being pitched as an original idea and they’re not even acknowledging where it’s come from

[harsh hull]

Besides which, they've already done something similar to this with the shared economic tree for the Baltic countries back in NSB, so it's not completely revolutionary a concept for AAT either

[tribal schooner]

I’d have to disagree there. The idea of putting ideas out for free use is nothing new (it’s what the modders are doing). But people usually tip their hats when they use the material

It’s the same in any industry

Plus there’s a big distinction between not crediting someone and actively stating you’re unaware of the sources you’re clearly taking inspiration from

[zenith cargo]

It is a modding framework so that modders can use it instead of how they currently do, which is kind of a hacky solution.

You are free to believe what you want of course, but thus far people seem to think we got inspired by Milleium Dawn, EaW and KR, so its not really a unique idea.

Most of us don't have time to track what other mods are doing but it's not a crazy idea that inevitably someone is gonna have a similar idea within an enclosed space

I mean you can believe what you will, but it will inevitably help modders which is the whole idea

[lime glacier]

i'm not going to lie, this looks a little sus if you don't know what it actually is

new Sweden focus tree 10/10

[spring wyvern]

They should hire you in the comm team, you convinced me, buying this DLC now

[lime glacier]

[spring wyvern]

The fact that DLCs are considered updates tho

[lime glacier]

lol

[crisp pier]

Damm I tried byzantine again but apparently if you build forts the turkish dont attack anymore so I couldnt let the AI destroy themselfs

Underestimated the ai

Big fail

[analog rampart]

I think 3 is the max

[crisp pier]

Ow thanks

Maybe I will try

With like 2 or 3

I thought any defensive bonus is welcome but yeah AI

[analog rampart]

yep

[visual willow]

every dlc release comes with an update 🤷‍♀️

[long ruin]

Yeah its a bit confusing but basically the DLC is called Arms against Tyranny while the new update is Avalanche, everyone will get Avalanche but not the DLC

[solid gyro]

Update name is usually a teaser to what the dlc is gonna be

But tbh what they're doing is smart

Because they don't need to divide people into teams for an update and teams for the dlc

But I do hope the international market will be free for all

[zenith cargo]

We usually divide ourselves into feature teams internally. So X amount of people work on Y feature, not necessarily divided into patch and DLC work, but feature work

[solid gyro]

Well ye, but you're all working towards the same update/goal, so it's much smoother than trying to release stuff separately

But it's really cool

[zenith cargo]

Ah yes 🙂 having more projects active at once becomes trickier

[subtle jasper]

has anyone else just lost all of thier saves?

I had about 115

[solid gyro]

This is exactly why I don't play mods 😂 I really didn't know about it until someone who actually worked on one of the mods told me about its resemblance but by then the thing was already implemented. Also, I don't claim that having a collaborative focus tree is a novel idea, it made sense for this expansion and for my experience playing in Coop, the people who made those mods probably had the same idea and their implementation is probably different than mine. (I actually played EaW for a couple of hours but it was the zombie goth ponies to the east or something so really had no idea of that system)

[acoustic creek]

What's the best path to survive as Poland in historic mode?

Without exiling myself

[visual willow]

romanian king, then give up danzig

[acoustic creek]

Ok ty

[worn hearth]

the support company buff for light tank recon is extremely broken. it’s already meta in tank divisions and a 10% boost in hard attack is too much considering meta heavy tanks have over a 1000 hard attack

[fast lynx]

where is info I can read to catch up on all the dlc/updates thats occurred since the tank n railroads stuff

and whats the consensus on those newer dlcs/versions

ok nvm found out

[fluid shadow]

You can also just fall back to Thessaloniki and attack and encircle the AI when they are weak because of supply.
Repeat that over and over and you can easily conquer them.

[crisp pier]

hmm might try that

ended up forming it when I got on the allied side

bit of a weird way but worked

some reason yugoslavia attacked me and then I was almost dead but then allied came and it was ez

enough byzantine for now

trying ottomon now

but not sure how to do ottoman without always somehow getting involved with axis or allies

[fluid shadow]

On older versions you also can naval invade behind them (Still have to let them get to Thessaloniki )

[crisp pier]

anyway this is the totally wrong channel lol

[crisp pier]

lmao

[visual willow]

Althist and pray

[crisp pier]

yeah I gotta stop playing historical xd

[visual willow]

Nah still works

[fluid shadow]

Really?

Cool

[crisp pier]

any tips for the other way arround, taking greece as ottoman?

[fluid shadow]

gotta try this

[visual willow]

Yeah, but nqval invade 2 tiles cause a div can be on the victory port

[fluid shadow]

Naval invade them

[fluid shadow]

In my experince, you don't even land on the port

[crisp pier]

also I was on axis and did the bulgarian thing and then they took my land? 😄

[visual willow]

Wait is there even a port there? Not unless you build one right

[crisp pier]

is that just random?

[visual willow]

No bulgaria "asks" if they can get land

[fluid shadow]

Yeah, it's because of this focus wwhere bulgaria gets the land, even if there not in the war

[crisp pier]

wait but I had asked bulgaria to join ottoman

that one is just 50% random right?

[solid gyro]

I'm like

Pretty sure the game decides every event before the game starts

[lunar folio]

That is true. There is no save scumming events.

[solid gyro]

That sucks tbh

Because I've done a rune where I get like 80% successful rate for killing g stalin

Try to shoot him 3 times but still fails

[hollow lion]

^^

I think you can savescum if you change the modifier list that applies

[visual willow]

I mean you can use console commands to force the event to appear, right

[quiet smelt]

iit doesnt actually ping mate

you'd have the same ammount of "sucess" if you were to spam anything else

The brainrot must be real when you cant even flood a server with spam properly

is there anything specific you want to acomplish

I guess not

whats the point

[molten bison]

schizo

[crystal oak]

wtf

[wispy flare]

when come czech langue?

[solid gyro]

I played on Ironman so sadly no

[solid gyro]

Idk how to do that

[visual willow]

Then you kinda have to live with these kind of things

[solid gyro]

Yeah

Sucks tbh and idk why they like don't make it transparent that's the case

Though I think the only ones that aren't decided beforehand are those where you need army ratio

Like the Bulgarian ones to Puppet the ballans

Balkans**

[visual willow]

I mean after reloading the same save 4 times and getting the same outcome you should start realising it

[solid gyro]

Ohh

[solid gyro]

I've never done that

What I meant was like I clicked the event 3 times to try and kill him

[visual willow]

Wait you can click it multiple times during the same run?

[solid gyro]

Yeah

If it fails it just like spikes Paranoia

If you wait a little bit it'll come back

[pseudo wing]

Just mod it to remove the timer and make the paranoia max out

[spare epoch]

Since there will be air reforms in the coming update

May I ask if a Bomber on Strat bombing can actually shoot down an enemy wing ?

Do they use an "Attack" stat?

[hollow lion]

They do IIRC

[spare epoch]

Because I know defence acts as a means of reducing disruption and the allied planes shot down ....but seems odd if a Bomber that has turrets can't shoot down a plane

What is IIRC ? ^^

[pseudo wing]

IIRC is the acronym for If I Remember Correctly

[spare epoch]

Got it

How do they do it then? Is it like fighters on Air superiority missions ? They use THAT formula?

[winged comet]

When will Arms Against Tyranny come out I can't wait for this expansion

[visual willow]

Autumn

[pseudo wing]

It comes out in Autum, there is no official release date announced just yet

[winged comet]

thanks for answers

[upper frost]

Are we still getting dev diaries for the alt-history paths, or were they discussed enough in the feature videos?

[molten bison]

guess we will see on Wednesday

[spare epoch]

Usually they drop on October

Focus on the updates prior to that for now

They tend to alter the game quite a bit

Regarding Land Divisions at least ( and a bit of the air formula )

[pseudo wing]

Alt history paths will be a little later, as everyone is currently on Holiday but we've prepped a bunch in advance to make sure you guys still got dev diaries 🙂

[spare epoch]

Paradropped Armor

We have been blessed

Special forces trees are much better than I expected, you can really change their Playstyle or keep it simple

[long ruin]

I like the trees but mountaineers just seem far too expensive

Land xp doctrine is far too limited

Atleast marines are easily gettable for majors like USA

[spare epoch]

Yes indeed but please keep in mind how limited the marines are as a special forces...

For what they represent, I think mountaineers are quite balanced.

[polar jasper]

Not when you are at war

[visual willow]

But for what they do they do it incredibly cost-efficient

Otherwise you need amtracs

[spare epoch]

You used "but" , however I think we are on the same page

They have different jobs, they do it well. Period...

Marines aren't stronger, just good for one thing and they do it extremely well

Remind me, bitte , what are strategic defences ?

Anti air, fortresses ?

[muted stump]

Now we really do need to rush chief of army

[analog scarab]

Imagine making light tanks good, naval exp relevant, and mountaineers shit all with one change.

[edgy remnant]

M

[tribal schooner]

I really like the look of the doctrines. Inb4 USA has max doctrines and elite marines before they join the war. Japan has no chance lmao

[polar jasper]

Wait, how are mountaineers bad now

[harsh hull]

New doctrines make Japan strong enough to push through China before America joins the war, so the devs make the supply in China even worse to compensate

[visual willow]

I mean the game is balanced if japan caps china like a year pre war

[analog scarab]

Enhancing them requires hefty amounts of army xp, which is easily the most valuable and hardest to get. Which means that you're incentivized to buff paratroopers and marines instead. And if they're operating off of a shared special forces cap, chances are you're not going to go with completely vanilla mountaineers over the things that are easy to buff, are probably going to be buffed, and come with overarching strategic capabilities.

[molten bison]

usa should get a navy xp gain reduction or more expensive navy doctrine and marines

cuz they will also have rlly op marines when fighting japan

[visual willow]

They already have an "OP" navy

[polar jasper]

Fair point. But when in the war, I have a ton of army XP after my doctrines are done. Personally, it would be nice if they reduced the cost of the special forces doctrines.

[visual willow]

Ngl 50 would sound rather nice

[analog scarab]

Between templates, swapping spirits, and how expensive exercising is, the only time you should really have an excess of army xp is after the war is already pretty much done.

[polar jasper]

I usually struggle to get Air XP before war usually, yet I don't hear many people talk about paratroopers being expensive.

Or am I just bad at getting Air XP

[analog scarab]

Air exp is usually in low supply pre-war, but once it actually kicks off, lord almighty does it come in quick. Especially with the spirit that reduces doctrine costs and the ability to send volunteer air wings.

Doctrines may start off at one or two, but they cap out almost instantly.

With that in mind, not all air spirits are created equally and it may come to pass that what a paratroopers can offer (demolishing factories/infrastructure/org) on drop can be worth more than some spare doctrine.

[polar jasper]

What does this mean? Will armored recon and flame tanks still be fine or is this just a nice little boost to armor and firepower

[visual willow]

I think it'll just be an extra support company which won't be that good (just light tank recon basically)

[spare epoch]

I believe the only way around this is making the actual mountaineer doctrine more powerful than the rest to reflect the cost and inability to aquire early.

After all army exp is vastly more important.

[analog scarab]

I think it's basically another way to add what basically amounts to an artillery line battalion without being able to land actually artillery (beyond support) with your paratroopers.

Can imagine it functioning relatively similar to a 9/1 setup (or whatever the new widths are).

Close support gun on an extremely cheap chassis. More of you want.

[solid gyro]

hmm

wondering if theres going to be an update to the "missing nations" in europe? (belgium, luxembourg, austria) and those that are going to be upgraded (germany defo needs overhaul after 7 years, hungary, czechoslovakia with german sudetenland like rt56, etc.)?

as a suggestion for future dlcs it can work as a "Central Powers" kinda thing

[visual willow]

Luxembourg kinda has no potentional just like most of the "missing" nations

Only belgium and austria have anything really going on for them

Everyone else the default tree itself should just be reworked

It's so utterly outdated and it makes no sense that it has not even a basic "join axis/allies/comintern" option

[solid gyro]

Luxembourg would be mostly a meme/alt-hist tree

But considering it's meme status it'll likely get a gamey focus tree

It'd be like the last Nation in Europe to likely get a tree to

[visual willow]

Just give it a default tree with like, focus for mutual guarentees in the benelux for the democracy tree

[nimble torrent]

God I hope they remake some major focus trees before doing that tbh

[visual willow]

I could see belgium and austria being done if they rework germany

Belgium/light netherlands touchup-germany-czechoslovakia-austria

[nimble torrent]

Something-something the HRE update maybe?

[solid gyro]

Ngl… Luxembourg could get the German Confederation tree because it was the last German nation in it, or it can get the HRE tree. But also the Benelux tree

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitions_of_Luxembourg

Poor Luxembourg had a Poland effect

Austria supposed to get a hoi4 rework mod from ZeKaisers

Maybe that can be useful, though depends on what it has

https://youtu.be/WYOjmG9jV3k

Would’ve been cool for each independent USSR state in second Russian civil war to have a small tree similar to the old USSR to have a branch of like: Russia Aligned; Independence; or Western Alignment

Also Intermarium Poland lol (pretty much a cool addition but most forgot)

Should’ve said that during NSB but it’s here now…

[nimble torrent]

Yeah, tbh it seems like they forgot to do it and remembered it for the Ethiopia releasables/aussa
(Not complaining, dev work is hard)

[solid gyro]

Napoleonic tree needs definite rework…

[nimble torrent]

Kind of a shame, would have made pure Trotsky very cool

[solid gyro]

Yeah it would’ve

Also giving it their own autonomy system like Japan

“Autonomous SSR, FSSR, or a Soviet Republic”

Also they should’ve added kerensky portion too besides the monarchy

(Russia Reworked mod is pretty cool)

[nimble torrent]

Exactly!
Well, I hope once the game's development cycle is done the custodian team is expanded (ideally with lads from the main development team), cause there's quite some things that deserve to be improved and bugs that need to be fixed

[nimble torrent]

Absolutely based mod
I do think it makes Russia a bit too op tho

[solid gyro]

What about Vive la France, or France Completed?

[nimble torrent]

Never tried it, keep the Frenchies in the trenches and away from me possibly
(It's a joke)

[solid gyro]

(Vive la France makes it look expanded, France Completed changes it so you do economic then political once elections happen )

[solid gyro]

Ww1? More like Frenchies in the Trenchies 🇬🇧

Though anyways, Britain might need a minor rework

Not much, just a minor rework to give it extra monarchs besides Edward VIII

Though commonwealth needs major rework like rt56

Also china needs an “eight year’s resistance rework”

Like gawddamn there’s more than 6 Chinese warlords

Plus more chaos

Hmmm

rt56 should help hoi4 a bit

[nimble torrent]

Eh, I kinda get why they simplified the Chinese side of the map tbh
Having a lot of smaller minor nations would just make "main" china weaker tbh

It definitely needs some improvements tho, I agree

[solid gyro]

They should be bought out by hoi4, or merge teams together

[nimble torrent]

Also I'm just a big fan of national spirits for the major's army, navy and airforce
I feel like they give a bit more of shape and uniqueness to each major country tbf

[nimble torrent]

I get what you are saying but it's a pipe dream, not gonna (realistically) happen
It would make paradox look bad and create a weird power imbalance with the new team (although I do think that hiring a few people from the major mods is a good idea to keep in touch with the community)

[solid gyro]

Germany Britain need that definitely

Maybe for Germany a balance between the SS & Wehrmacht (it was real also… didn’t want to be banned but yeah)

[nimble torrent]

Eh, I'd kinda want to see a "command rivalry" system for the Germans tbh
The heer's top generals were always bickering and whatnot, would be cool to show it (maybe less coordination and reinforce rate)
Or give "missions" like Mussolini has
Hell, if we want to go full history we could create a balance INSIDE the army since, as the war went on, the quality divide between the infantry and the tank units would increase dramatically
That could be made by adding a modifier for different divisions in the same battle maybe? No idea if it's doable for now

[molten bison]

Is that the one that changes the Russian civil war a bit and adds a few different paths and a faction thingy

[solid gyro]

Yep exactly

[molten bison]

yeah Japan bop could be navy and army

[solid gyro]

You can go Anarchist Fascist Monarchist or Democratic (with kerensky or Anton)

Though not as many alternate USSR paths, only Trotsky…

Anarchist is extra revolution unless ya want democracy, or a return to monarchy or fascism

[molten bison]

Very weird thing in the base game is that kerensky had an advisor portrait but if u get him as leader it’s a generic portrait

[solid gyro]

Yeah

[molten bison]

it doesn’t make sense

[solid gyro]

Also weird that they didn’t make a path for him

[molten bison]

yeah I think they were low on time

I wish Russian civil war was a bit better like not just Ukraine revolts but they revolt then anarchists might aswell etc

[solid gyro]

They should add intermarium too

[molten bison]

basmachi movement etc

[solid gyro]

They should’ve added more trees to the independent states too like forte said above

[molten bison]

yeah they should’ve kept the generic focus tree but add a small side branch

where it gives them militias and stuff

[solid gyro]

True like the Italian civil war

[molten bison]

yeah like a little branch like that

where u “mobilise the militias” “emergency arms production”

all them things

but idk if they’ll ever give releasables focus trees

I was hoping Iceland gets a small focus tree

just for when they got invaded by the British and stuff

[solid gyro]

Yeah

Maybe they’ll do the focus release in another Denmark dev diary

[molten bison]

yeah I hope so

also I like this dlc cuz it’s gonna be Norway Denmark and Finland who try to survive against much stronger powers and if they do good they can expand into their enemies and reclaim old lands

[spare epoch]

Hopefully the new Scandinavian focus trees will bring something that affects the entire war scenery and not just themselves

Slowing down Germany could be enough

[molten bison]

yeah I’m excited for them

monarchist play through fascist play through historical play through a commie play throughs

[solid gyro]

they should’ve give Germany a rework with everything like Italy had

[spare epoch]

Even being allied to someone will affect balance of power

[molten bison]

I don’t think they can give 4 nations full focus trees and a major

but Japan prob needs a rework more desperately

[spare epoch]

Germany should stay simple... It's the starting nation

Almost everyone chooses the funny mustache man

As a first

So it shouldn't scare away players

[old star]

isn't this what people said about italy before bba?

[molten bison]

I disagree it needs to be changed some time but not atm it works but japans tree is atrocious

[spare epoch]

At the same time Germany is strong enough for a good player to utilise

[molten bison]

6 army focuses Japan has

💀

[spare epoch]

Japan should be yes, because it is an advanced nation

[old star]

the older trees 100% need revision

[molten bison]

yeah

Japan then Germany

[spare epoch]

Don't even get me started on usa

[old star]

not just those two tbh

[spare epoch]

Most boring ass major

[molten bison]

pukes

[old star]

all of the dod, tfv and wtt trees except for manchu and canada

need revision

[spare epoch]

Mhm

[molten bison]

France just needs some 35 day focuses and maybe a few changes to focuses

[solid gyro]

Napoleonic additions

Italy, Spain, etc

Even Yugoslavia

[spare epoch]

France needs to be wiped from the game tbh

Just remove france...do it

[old star]

or make franco-spain worth it

[molten bison]

no

[spare epoch]

Yes

What is France's gimmick that makes it stand out ?

[solid gyro]

That too, but atleast add stuff from napoleonic era where France invaded

[spare epoch]

She needs rework to the ground

[molten bison]

bro in one of their monarchist paths have a focus called “clear the slums” it’s one of the 3 focuses in the path

[spare epoch]

Remove it and rebuild it

[solid gyro]

Like Germany was one of them, but also Spain Italy Austria Puppeting Poland , etc.

[spare epoch]

Greece has a clear the slums as well

[molten bison]

Actually I forgot Frances trash industrial tree

[spare epoch]

Yeeee

[molten bison]

yeah but it’s 1 of the 3 monarchist paths

Focuses *

[spare epoch]

She needs a gimmick

[molten bison]

it gives building slots

It’s cool

😎

[spare epoch]

...

My apologies

[old star]

normal france doesn't need an overhaul

vichy does

[spare epoch]

I totally forgot France gets free building slots

[old star]

(and maybe free france too)

[spare epoch]

That's op

Mb

[keen chasm]

France is fine compared to Japan

[spare epoch]

True that...oof

[old star]

real

[spare epoch]

Japan tbh has soooo much potential

It's Japan for crying out loud

[old star]

if they ever do those micro updates in patches like what they did with canada

they need to move the interservice rivalry to the bop menu

[keen chasm]

Dude

[old star]

the bop was literally made for stuff like that 💀

[keen chasm]

Tojo is not even a general/field marshall

He is actually a generic portrait

[old star]

he's too busy committing war crimes

[spare epoch]

My god didn't even know that

[keen chasm]

I understand that he is a high command officer but still ??

And what's the point of Hirohito leading both Fascist and Neutral Japan

[old star]

why does japan even start as fascist

[spare epoch]

Ikr

Fascism wasn't a thing there

[solid gyro]

Hagakure is a good Japanese rework

[spare epoch]

I guess for gameplay purposes

[solid gyro]

It was jingoism and ultranationalism

[keen chasm]

I really hope they do something like they did to Bulgaria

The emperor in charge, but with the prime minister as a advisor

[molten bison]

they were lazy they Hirohito is leader and not the 500 Japanese prime ministers that actually controlled and ruled Japan in that time

[spare epoch]

Like the regency council

[old star]

^^^^ pdx is just lazy

[molten bison]

like at the start of the game Japan is a “democracy” but it’s fascist

[keen chasm]

And if Japan went neutral the advisor would be removed

[solid gyro]

They weren’t lazy in NSB nor BBA

[spare epoch]

Yeah actually, 500 prime ministers sound fun

[molten bison]

they had elections and all

[molten bison]

yeah

[old star]

true

[spare epoch]

The only lazy dlc was Battle for the Bosporus

[old star]

fym 'only'

[spare epoch]

Since then Paradox has stepped up their game

[old star]

have you seen new zealand's focus tree lol

[molten bison]

Hirohito should be national spirit change my mind

[old star]

agreed

[spare epoch]

Well... Together for victory at least added new mechanics

[molten bison]

Ok but who has played democratic independent New Zealand which has 2 focuses

[molten bison]

Puppet mechanics and lend lease

[keen chasm]

Not really i love Bulgaria's focus tree

[spare epoch]

Hirohito was a god emperor that Japan actually believed he had divine blessing...he of all people should grant a major buff to its soldiers

[old star]

no one wants to because it has only 2 focuses

[keen chasm]

Greece.. is fine, and Turkey—

[spare epoch]

Yeah.... Just focus trees. That's my point, nothing new

[molten bison]

Lend lease used to be part of the dlc not in base game 💀

[molten bison]

Nobody would if it had 15 focuses

[spare epoch]

And to minor nations that don't really affect gameplay...most of my playthroughs, nothing has happened in the Balkans because they get capitulated before they finish focuses

[keen chasm]

I think they did Bftb as a ""testing ground"" for new stuff

[molten bison]

Which was what other tfv nations had

[molten bison]

ye

Then they realised ppl hated the Turkish focus tree

[spare epoch]

Eh at least it was cheap

[keen chasm]

Like Stalin's paranoia, the League of Nations, Missiolinis

[molten bison]

For having no choice

[spare epoch]

Now I know HE of all people dwells in weird servers

[molten bison]

Bruh Wth

[solid gyro]

Cursed photos

[molten bison]

Legs legs

[wraith acorn]

Wrong chat

[long ruin]

<@&846894118219022336>

[calm rain]

Please keep chat appropriate.

[long ruin]

thanks

[molten bison]

how was that there for 5 hours

[long ruin]

Coz no one reported?

or if they did they probably reported to discord admin

who don't care

[quaint zealot]

i farted

[dull tundra]

[molten bison]

[spiral glen]

[solid gyro]

holy crap...

i think i found something HOI4 should check on

superevents ._.

(warning it promotes alternate endings with bad symbols)

[hollow lion]

@solid gyro no content with swastikas please

[solid gyro]

yes sir, sorry about that.

[unkempt fern]

arms agains tiranny

[solid gyro]

19 divs on that encirclement 😭

[solid gyro]

dont mind i got like 200 division that game

[solid gyro]

btw guys arms against tyranny feature breakdown is on pt2

[tight blaze]

Love your name (I'm from the north of Ireland)

[marble trout]

Not so northern war and ever heard of double agents?

[hollow quail]

actually never heard of them

[marble trout]

It’s when a person splits in to 2 by mitosis

[plucky phoenix]

me !

its quite fun actually

you get to watch the ai fight

[deep onyx]

❤️

[solid gyro]

Frfr

[solid gyro]

id like to see new laws and staff

[vocal basin]

I wonder when we will get some updates about the upgradeable designers

Out of all the features in att this is the one we have gotten the least amount of updates about

[winged tangle]

when are we getting the new dlc?

[molten bison]

On the date it says it comes out on

[pseudo wing]

It comes out on ||A date in the autumn, hasn't been announced yet||

[compact torrent]

What is the New DLC?

The Army against Tyranny right?

[solid gyro]

yeah

[visual willow]

can't wait for the AI to buy every single interwar heavy tank from eachother

[solid gyro]

IKR

XD

[normal relic]

zamn

[solid gyro]

cant wait to buy thousands to millions tons of equipment and tech as ESTONIA

[normal relic]

spoiler alert!

also spelling mistake

[pseudo wing]

ahhhh ur right

[normal relic]

autumn

[pseudo wing]

yee

i was busy doing dev diary things :p

[normal relic]

oh wait

you spelled it correctly

[solid gyro]

i just read the new dd

about the market system

FINALLY i can purchase/buy all the Equipment and tech as ESTONIA

[molten bison]

Swedish civ greed meta is real

Buy all ur equipment off Estonia and invade Denmark

[solid gyro]

will the Market system work kinda like in MD

[visual willow]

don't think you can buy tech

[solid gyro]

alr

they should add that you can also buy tech

[molten bison]

no

[visual willow]

how would you put a real cost on that though

[solid gyro]

idk

[molten bison]

^^^

Also licenses are a thing

[solid gyro]

in which dlc?

[molten bison]

so u can get the latest German panzer and make it aa Hungary

[molten bison]

Death or dishonour

[solid gyro]

ah alr

[molten bison]

I never use licensees

[solid gyro]

thx

i will buy DOD and AAT next

[visual willow]

i wouldnt get dod untill you already have all other dlc

AI doesn't really license, and only older equipment you don't even want

[brave wave]

they did

kind of

[solid gyro]

alr

they should add a currency system

[visual willow]

civs suffice well enough for the more simplistic style hoi4 is going for

currency would need a rework of too many mechanics aswel

[solid gyro]

alr nvm then

they should do a dlc for northern africa

[visual willow]

i hope not, would be a waste

what would you want in algeria and libya?

at best we get egypt with a middle east dlc

[solid gyro]

alr

how about a dlc for americas

[visual willow]

1 for southern america would be ok but it's a bit too detached compared to the rest of the world

[solid gyro]

alr

they do need to revamp the tech system

we need RL tech that most nations used

[visual willow]

not a lot

[solid gyro]

wdym

[visual willow]

what kind of techs would you like to see

[solid gyro]

well like stg45 m

and other prototypes

[visual willow]

we already have that

it's called "infantry equipment"

[solid gyro]

what

alr

how about bigger ships vessels and landing craft

how about i make a currency system mod

[molten bison]

stop it

[solid gyro]

sorry

[molten bison]

hoi4 currency too far

[polar jasper]

There is 1 DLC I really want.

Southeast Asia DLC that also reworks China and Japan or India, Australia, and New Zealand

[polar jasper]

Superheavy Battleships

[visual willow]

Eh NZ doesn't need a lot

[polar jasper]

Bigger landing craft? That is your naval invasion techs and/or amphibious tanks

[polar jasper]

Yeah, it could use a slight tweak like what Romania got

[visual willow]

Except for NZ it would be enough lol

[polar jasper]

But Australia and India could be brought up to date a bit more

[molten bison]

Yes we need Thailand focus tree

And with Thailand focus tree we can get Indonesia maybe a Japan and china rework and possibly Malaya focus tree

[polar jasper]

I want to see how a Malaya and Indonesia focus tree would go

And how much an Indonesia focus tree would screw over the Dutch

[molten bison]

Lol

[visual willow]

I'd imagine the AI is inclined to pick the tree that let them stay colonised

[polar jasper]

The poor Netherlands player who plays on ahistorical yet wants to get the liberation achievement for some unknown reason

[molten bison]

it’d be cool trying to hold out against Japan while being weak from being extracted by a colonial overlord until you actually go to war then after u can try to peacefully gain independence or revolt

[visual willow]

I mean you can just put germany and UK on hisy

[molten bison]

Then a commie or fascist path aswell

[quasi sinew]

Tbh India needs a rework

Siam too

[molten bison]

Siam needs a focus tree ye

[quasi sinew]

ye

[blazing wing]

how is the latest dev diary called tech when it's about the market system?

[polar jasper]

It is how the AI uses it

[blazing wing]

still, how is that tech?

just feels like clickbait

[visual willow]

AI coding is technological

Is there another tag they used before that would fit more?

[pseudo wing]

We were debating what to call it, as its not specifically the market for you we cannot call it international market, and because its the AI using it, its part of the tech.

If it were tech that we can research, I'll make sure to label it as 'Research Tech' but this time's was simply the best name we could do for it

[spare epoch]

Yo guys

About the new market

Will we be able to buy and sell ships!?!

[zenith cargo]

No, except convoys

[solid gyro]

any notification for release date?

[high wolf]

I like this idea, Indonesian pride is not to be undermined

[lunar folio]

I wonder how’d they make it interact with the Dutch tree which literally annexes them

[polar jasper]

Event pops up saying "Netherlands curtails our autonomy!" And you have the choice to accept your fate and eventually be annexed or to side with independent movements to keep playing

[agile carbon]

What happened?

Like, it got updated

But whats new?

[visual willow]

I'd imagine going against will still annex you you just start a "war" in exile like ethiopia

[prisma wing]

Maybe it's a mod

[zenith cargo]

Mod. We never update on weekends unless something critical has happened

[agile carbon]

Oh alright, thanks

[crisp timber]

When is the new dlc dropping?

[plain terrace]

Prob mid Sep

[solid gyro]

i hope so, but not counting on it

[visual willow]

the trailer just said "autumn"

[spare epoch]

About the new design companies

Are we going to lose completely the ones we have now ?

like, from research and production

airctaft designer , ship, tank, material etc?

are they all getting overhauled?

i hope we can replicate the ones we have now...some are very fun

[polar jasper]

I think the base ones will still exist, probably weaker, but you can add on to them.

Or you have to build them from scratch

[spare epoch]

fingers crossed

[fallen zenith]

I think they said in the dev diaries that they're being replaced. Only one that'll remain is the industrial concern one

[long ruin]

No dev diary

Oh wait livestream

[pseudo wing]

There is no Dev Diary today, it will be tomorrow 🙂

[rare walrus]

Gutted

[stoic wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[spare epoch]

Is there like a mod for a better naval combat battle detail ? I want to see which attack does what damage

[kindred panther]

were can i watch the qna livestream?

[maiden sierra]

Can't find the livestream anywhere, or the Dev diary

[wary maple]

Neither

Not on Twitch or YouTube

I wonder if they're running into some issues since the DD got delayed, and now this

[wraith creek]

I guess it will come at 17:00 CEST, along with the pre-order trailer.

[solid gyro]

They just uploaded the AAT pre-order story trailer to youtube. Got the notification early and was able to watch it, but now I cant find it anymore, they might have deleted it already

[wraith creek]

It should be live now

[solid gyro]

oh yeah, guess they privated it for a few minutes

[visual willow]

epic embed fail

[wraith creek]

Well, for an hour actually.

But it was public for like 4 minutes an hour ago 🙂

[tepid spindle]

holy heck this goes hard https://youtu.be/5ZJZ63TVOgc

[prisma wing]

already pre ordered 🫡

[wraith creek]

Still no Q&A though?

[prisma wing]

maybe 17h30 🤔

[wary maple]

folks, im getting desperate

[full gate]

no lyrics 😤

but still w tier

[rare walrus]

Did that Q&A happen?

[wary maple]

nope

[desert rampart]

Do we have any news on it?

[pseudo wing]

I've been told that our Dev Diary has been moved, so apologies on that, it should be next week I believe, will update you all when I can 🙂

[desert rampart]

Oh ok thats fine

[pseudo wing]

It's been moved to a later date, I wasn't given a time yet though

[desert rampart]

At least we got a date for the release

[sweet quarry]

Due to sudden and unavoidable circumstances we have had to delay both the Q&A and the Dev diary, both will return in future.

[desert rampart]

Thanks C0RAX, might want to put that in announcements though

[nimble torrent]

well damn
guess my bank account will feel the cost of tyranny in a few months

[desert rampart]

lol

[desert rampart]

Is the Q&A form still open for submission?

[pseudo wing]

I don't believe so, but if it is we'll let you know

[cinder bridge]

Säkkijärven polkka moment

[long ruin]

Hey can we still add questions then for the Q and A?

[keen chasm]

We all were waiting this

I wonder if the devs watch Girls und Panzer

[spice terrace]

https://youtu.be/TBgbBj5O7JA

[molten bison]

I can’t wait for the other music tracks

[sterile scroll]

Will there be a version with lyrics?

[hollow lion]

prolly not

[deep onyx]

I wish they did Muistoja Pohjolasta instead

Its such an epic sounding song, and who knows how good it could be with HOI4’s orchestral ability

https://youtu.be/zaptXerGpwY

I guess they chose Sakkijarven Polkka because its most famous

But that doesnt mean they still cant do Muistoja Pohjolasta

[solid gyro]

china buff when

[solid gyro]

id like to see 4 new things: a population bar a reserves bar and sailors bar and a labor work forces bar

[fossil lantern]

Can't believe that I have to wait for 7 weeks, prob longest one to date

honestly I'd rather pay extra for early access privileges rather than wasting my life

[visual willow]

the dlcs are finished shortle before release so not like that could really happen

you could also just completely log off and block all hoi4 content from getting to you, so you only play the game

then you just get the dlc and don't have to.... "waste your life" waiting for people to make a product you don't need

[fossil lantern]

ok. not like i'd need that 🗿

[visual willow]

[deep pike]

Сделайте скидку на хойку

Сделайте длс с фокусами на монголию и люксембург

[pseudo wing]

I am sorry my friend, the Discord is english only (not that we do not appreciate the Russian Fanbase, this is just for moderation purposes)

However I will note down your interest in Mongolia and Luxembourg for feedback 🙂

[visual willow]

mongolia has some extremely nice potentional

[pseudo wing]

everywhere has good potential if you get enough traction behind it 🙂

(insert canadian world dominance trust me it's 100 percent happening jk)

Though I don't get to make those decisions, if it happens you'll hear about it from me or the other Community team members :p

[visual willow]

i mean.... luxembourg kinda doesn't
most of what can do can kinda be part of a reworked default tree (which also REALLY needs to happen) and then a handful of unique focuses

[inland edge]

A cool idea for Luxembourg could be an ancap tree

[olive crypt]

what path in the new dlc are you guys most exited about im curious mine gotta be monarchist Sweden

[solid gyro]

Who does the Dev team hire for these pre-order songs

The last three are absolutely fire

(Battle of the Bosporous also had one of the best OSTs hands down)

[mellow rapids]

Same

[solid gyro]

Unit models have to be amazing

I think each nation is gonna get 2 infantry models atleast

[paper estuary]

Y'all taking feedback notes on community desires? 👀
Imma start lobbying for South America

[solid gyro]

Yes

[pseudo wing]

I always note down what people want/like, its part of my job

I can nudge what people like, I just don't make the decisions

[solid gyro]

When Ecuador borders fix?

Cause Ecuador technically* had the Pastaza region

[paper estuary]

South America state borders should get a fix
A lot of states have been butchered and/or merged together in bizarre ways

[solid gyro]

Yeah

Tbh South America would be a good place for like an intervention mechanic

Allow Majors to try and force peace b/w two minors

[paper estuary]

Just an example comparison:
On one hand, USA has almost every state present (exceptions are New England and Delaware) and they are perfectly drawn

On the other hand, poor Brazil has over half its states redrawn in a random manner 😭

[solid gyro]

I dont think they do every state though no?

I think they cut it down for minors

[paper estuary]

Probably
Tho I'm using Brazil as example because it is big and already has large states irl, so no reason why to cut states, except for the ones in the Amazon rainforest, which should be mostly impassable terrain I suppose

[zenith cargo]

The Brazil states were made in 2016 when the game was very different from now.

Usually we update borders for countries when they get content or if someone goes through the hassle of updating them

We dont like to do it too late in a DLC cycle though as it breaks saves for internal bugs

[solid gyro]

There any plans for a South America expansion?

[zenith cargo]

We can't really talk about future plans before things are announced 😛

[solid gyro]

Awh

[worn kite]

slip them a 20

[solid gyro]

I got like

A quarter and a dime

That enough?

[worn kite]

we all need to pitch in

[pseudo wing]

slip me a twenty AND get no news, its a win win

[visual willow]

sounds perfect

[solid gyro]

Sounds too risky

How can I trust you to deliver no news?

[pseudo wing]

think about it

I dont ever deliver news

i deliver dev diaries

[solid gyro]

Aren't they news about development?

I knew it! A Scam

[pseudo wing]

they are not news about development, they're just records of what is changing with the DLC's arrival.

this twitter post is the real news; https://twitter.com/HOI_Game/status/1692584848458723410?s=20

Hearts of Iron (@HOI_Game)

The ability to play historical is going to be deleted as a "feature" from Hearts of Iron IV, it makes no sense.

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 5:10 PM

[fluid mirage]

i will unironically uninstall

[solid gyro]

Wdym

I never play with historical

They should replace it with a randomize button 😎 👍

Wait

[solid gyro]

What happened to last week's dev diary

There was none and I don't think the previous one said you'd be taking a break

[pseudo wing]

It got delayed, there should be one next week.

that's all the info I got though, sorry

[solid gyro]

Ah rip

[solar inlet]

do you guys think a request garantee button would break the game?

[lunar folio]

Yes

[solar inlet]

why?

u would only have to balance the ai system

of relations

on paper it could work in practical therms i also think no

[visual willow]

For ai not really i think, for mp no cause you can just ask anyways

Aslong as the ai refuses unless their "regular" requirements are met it doesn't matter a ton either

[cold venture]

noooo

[unkempt gale]

historicals good if you want to get an achievements

[solid gyro]

Kinda

I'm not the best player though

So I usually rely on rng to get stuff done

Like German Civilwar

[unkempt gale]

especially for austria hungary

[solid gyro]

Yeah

[kindred marten]

Hello everyone

[cerulean torrent]

Hi, do you want to play HOI4 with us? We are from Russia. We won't understand each other and that's the point

[upbeat ledge]

come 3v3

[molten bison]

Historical is better for most achievements cuz u know what’s gonna happen but for some a historical is better tho

[solid gyro]

That is true

But I usually rely on RNG to help me cheese stuff

[molten bison]

Yeah a lot of the time weird things happen like Spain becoming soviet puppet n other stuff

[solid gyro]

Spain always becomes one if Republicans win

Cause of soviet aid focus

[frosty oak]

They dont if France intervene s early enough

In fact they sometimes will also send you their gold reserves too

Ofc, thats cause the AI wont do the focuses if France is sending volunteers

[solid gyro]

France never intervenes though

Thought it's funny to be playing some random small communist country and get their gold reserves

[pseudo wing]

Dev Diary in a couple minutes

[molten bison]

NORWEY???

norwey they got alr history

[visual willow]

DUTCH NORWAY!!!

[solid gyro]

Flipped over communist Yugoslavia

[molten bison]

btw norintern

I hope that faction name isn’t a placeholder

[pseudo wing]

[molten bison]

THE NORINTERN

norintern or monarchy

[solid gyro]

YES

[solar inlet]

carlo could you explain to us why hoi4 isn't translated in italian but in every other language?

[solid gyro]

It would be incredible if we had 100s of translations! But alas, I cannot explain how the languages we translate to are chosen, but new ones are added whenever the localization council convenes and there's pink smoke up the chimney

So fingers crossed?

[solar inlet]

okay

yes !

❤️

[hallow pivot]

WHat country is that?

[solid gyro]

🇳🇴

[desert rampart]

Do you know when the qna is going to happen? I've been waiting for some noise about it.

[solid gyro]

I honestly don't know what you're talking about 😂

[hallow pivot]

The update is already out?

[desert rampart]

The qna stream that was supposed to go live a couple days ago? There was an announcement for it but it got delayed or something.

[rapid warren]

Will we be able to make the kalmar union

With the new dlc

[steady roost]

Paraguay? Those are the most random ahh countries to invite

Also what the update alr out?

[visual willow]

not really

it's every communist nation in hoi4 that isn't the soviets ig

[steady roost]

Ah

[visual willow]

it will most likely invite other communist nations aswell if they come to be

[steady roost]

Cant wait for denmark

Form the old Danish Empire

[solid gyro]

Probably

[polar jasper]

Wait, does Norways communist focus tree not like the joint focus tree thing. I see a lot of war goals on the other Nordics

[visual willow]

all paths likely have some (except democratic)

you can just not use them/probably get skipped if you have the union

[molten bison]

Yes guys I’m a hoi4 tester dev

real

[dull tundra]

THE NORINTERN

[arctic wedge]

who is stanlin

[upper storm]

he's the secret world leader of Tannu Tuva

[clear radish]

literally unplayable

[molten bison]

NORINTERN SUPREMACY

RAHHHH

[heavy wolf]

A Kpop fan who rules the union of bts republics

Came from the word Stan(Degenerate stalkers in internet word)

And Stalin

[molten bison]

guys who else is excited for the norintern

[solid gyro]

Me

Unfortunately I don't think it'll stay with that name

I might change it to something like "Northern International" Or something like that

[spiral flicker]

its too on the nose

[inland edge]

If they do change it, someone should make a mod that changes it back

[molten bison]

i will disband faction and change its name to the norintern

[hollow lion]

Theres a mod for faction renaming

[lunar folio]

That mod’s name? Albert Einstein.

[molten bison]

lesgo international market