latest-updates

[neat jolt]

It was supposed to release today

[visual willow]

hope

[dull tundra]

i was so excited for today!

[misty zephyr]

wating

[oak nest]

waiting

[prisma wing]

waiting

[visual willow]

next update is stacked

[smoky hinge]

Biiiiig update

[visual willow]

[solid gyro]

we need a update to the division designer: we need more unit types and templates

[smoky hinge]

Like what

[solid gyro]

well like a flamethrower section and howitzers

[visual willow]

i would love having 700 new battalions which wont matter because they will inevitably be completely outmatched by something similar!!!

[visual willow]

howitzers are practically arty

[solid gyro]

alr

[smoky hinge]

Also flame tanks exist

[visual willow]

and inf flamethrowers would be ok ig

[solid gyro]

i would like to see new support companies like snipers and mortars

[visual willow]

what would they do

except "plus 2 soft attack"

[smoky hinge]

Those things exist, they just are a part of the inf division itself

[solid gyro]

snipers would give a small boost to attack

[visual willow]

ok so nothing interesting then

[solid gyro]

alr

how about a new infantry type battalions like Volunteers and conscripts

[visual willow]

why would volunteers need to be their own battalion

[solid gyro]

easy to equip and being able to be MASS trained

[solid gyro]

becus they can be easily trained

[visual willow]

normal inf already is arguably

[smoky hinge]

Eh

[solid gyro]

alr

how about Concsripts

[visual willow]

again

[smoky hinge]

Manpower law = conscripts

[solid gyro]

Alr

[visual willow]

what would they do that is big enough to warrent an entire new battalion

[smoky hinge]

Literally in the name

[solid gyro]

alr alr

[solid gyro]

they can be MASS trained

with minimal equipment

[visual willow]

ok so

it's just infantry

[solid gyro]

theyre basically cannon fodder

[visual willow]

but they cost nothing but manpower

[solid gyro]

No

its not just inf

its CHEAP inf

[visual willow]

what i said

[solid gyro]

alr

[smoky hinge]

[solid gyro]

how about

this: a mortar squad

[visual willow]

how would it be more unique to arty or rocket arty

[solid gyro]

or atleast some kind of RL units and templates

[visual willow]

you can gladly watch a documentory if you want to interact with those things

[smoky hinge]

It's a video game

[solid gyro]

well BICE does have a lot of new units and templates

[visual willow]

or maybe make a mod which adds multiple skins for arty and stuff to have those things

[smoky hinge]

Bice is the definition of bloat

[visual willow]

and most of those are bloat

[solid gyro]

what is bloat

[visual willow]

if you can remove something without it subtracting from the game, like having something that is practically the same that's bloat

[solid gyro]

alr

[visual willow]

an "mortar" company which acts identically to an arty company would be bloat

because what's the point of the mortar?

[solid gyro]

then ill make a mod

which adds ALL of my unit and template ideas

[smoky hinge]

Have fun teaching the AI to use all that stuff

[solid gyro]

alr

[visual willow]

i mean, they wont have to

they would be identical to 90% of things ingame

[smoky hinge]

[solid gyro]

Really man?

thats not FUNNY

[hollow lion]

Im so bad at these even though the audio is perfect

[visual willow]

that's why we use the power of online tools to translate it for us

[mild sigil]

A S H I P H A S B E E N P I C K E D U P O N T H E R A D A R

[visual willow]

already translated it in #hoi4-general

[mild sigil]

that what it translate to

[visual willow]

yupp

[hollow lion]

that was fast

[visual willow]

https://www.google.com/search?q=morse+translator+speech&rlz=1C1GCEA_enNL958NL958&oq=morse+translator+speech&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l4.4761j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

i just picked the top result

worked perfectly so

[hollow lion]

the audio is so good as well that you can read the signal

[visual willow]

i have no clue how i can do that

[hollow lion]

Any audio/video editing software will show this

[visual willow]

i have no idea how to use any of those

[hexed glacier]

I can't wait for Mass Assault to be completely unpushable with the support company changes

[weak cape]

Speaking of dev diaries, we will call you to arms next week for something special… stay tuned, and save the date!

is this dlc announcement?

[hexed glacier]

I mean it's that time of year so probably

[weak cape]

scandalous ;)

[hexed glacier]

Next DLC is gonna be stacked if PDX does it correctly

[plain elm]

https://tenor.com/view/stacks-on-stacks-money-bills-cash-dollars-gif-11610797

Stacks

[visual willow]

Wait

A ship has been picked up by radar

Is that on referal to the bismarck

Holy

Sweden confirmed you heard it here first folks

It lines up wayyy too much to be false

[hexed glacier]

Oh and all use of Bofors in the DDs didn't make it obvious lmao

[visual willow]

the hell is a bofor

swedish weaponmaker

yeah fair

[dull tundra]

one week till dlc release?

[visual willow]

ha

no

[dull tundra]

why not?

[visual willow]

this is just the start of the devdairies

[dull tundra]

it's the anniversary!

oops

meant announcement!

[sinful solar]

maybe they should stop making so many expensive DLCs and add this stuff to base game

just an idea 😄

[lusty rampart]

Pirate overhaul, tRuSt

New carribean mechanics

[visual willow]

But they do?

[lunar folio]

Not as much as I would hope...
Not as much content at all as I would hope

Like c'mon give me something

[visual willow]

Well true but stating no content at all is just bs

Imo most minor features and all historical trees for participating countries hould be free

But like designers, spies, probably the expanded designers are extra features

[lunar folio]

I think stuff like the Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler romance event chain should also be DLC and not free

[visual willow]

Yeah like i said

Historical trees should be free

Idk why it's so hidden within dlcs

[stable path]

0.69€ dlc

[hexed glacier]

They are

[visual willow]

They arent

Only for the majors

[lament abyss]

JUNE 7TH

[visual willow]

No way that we are actually getting something useful this early

[solid gyro]

God Zamn

I’m ready for the dlc

i wanna see a dlc set in the north african front theater

ATTUD TBTH

[true jasper]

yeah bros i doubt that u will get a dlc on june 7th, more like a sale

[visual willow]

Ah yes, june 7th is right after june 1st

[true jasper]

what i said still stands

[solid gyro]

Nahhh it looks like something in the North Sea

Through a dark winter ig?

Or a storm

[visual willow]

Nordics are already practically confirmed

[solid gyro]

Waiting for Germany

[visual willow]

Already released

[spice oyster]

Sorry what?

[visual willow]

Waking the tiger

[spice oyster]

You consider Waking the tiger addition of civil war tree as a proper deserved upgrade?

[visual willow]

I mean for the time it practically was

[golden mist]

the whole vid reminds me of the sinking of blucher from king's choice with the boy and the ship, i dont know if this is just me or do others see what i mean?

[visual willow]

The japan tree nowadays is also laughable yet wtt still upgraded it

[spice oyster]

Yes but I feel like Germany and Japan deserves proper rework.

[visual willow]

Nearly every pre NSB country does

[spice oyster]

Yep

[visual willow]

Barring like, the netherlands and bulgaria and a bit

[spice oyster]

I feel like we will get Scandinavia and Germany this time

[visual willow]

I doubt they will juat randonly throw germany in it

Plus unless they go the baltics route and share most of the demo/commie/other trees i don't think they will have time to add a wholly new germany either

[spice oyster]

let's be surprised what will PDX come with

[lapis lichen]

omg scandinavia update confirmed possibly

[spice oyster]

But if they would throw Germany there as you say, it would make sense to me

Those countries can be thematicly connected

[visual willow]

Just as much as britain, the USSR, the baltics

Britain rework confirmed

[lapis lichen]

even if they don't do that I feel like outlier countries like those could possibly get updates like those commonwealth focus tree updates they did recently with those "operation something" roadmap thing

[spice oyster]

Germanic countries, Germany invaded Norway and Dennmark, Germany had trade with Sweeden, Finnland joined Operation Barbarossa

[visual willow]

"They traded" is one of the weaker reasons you can come up with

[spice oyster]

Well, it wasn't just an ordinary trade

They invaded Norway to secure route for trade with Sweden

They traded steel

[visual willow]

Wow

They traded a basic metal resource

I think it might be a netherlands rework

Think about it

Germanic countries

They definitely traded

[visual willow]

Germany invaded them both.... halfly

And they definitely traded

[odd sedge]

In the trailer it gave the date 9th of April 1940

[spice oyster]

My god, you don't need to agree. I was just saying that it would make sense for me because of reasons that I written

And you just picked one reason which didn't make much sense for you and you strarted arguing

[visual willow]

And i am saying that it's either too big of a stretch or can easily apply to other countries

[cunning ridge]

Bets on which country gonna get focus tree?

All of Nordics or select ones!

[torn umbra]

finland i hope

[rugged shore]

ayoooo we got a arg on our hands

THERE ARE MORE HIDDEN MESSAGES the pinned comment

[cunning ridge]

Damn the dev is team is probably watching us debate and toying with us

[torn umbra]

I am trying to decipher the video description, any clues?

[rugged shore]

soo probably has something to do with scandinavia + new german tech tree

[cunning ridge]

Well first once was 9th April 1940

The date Unternehmen Weserubung began.

[rugged shore]

anyone tried playing with the luminosity to look for hidden messages?

[torn umbra]

09 04 40 can also be the key to decrypt the cipher from the description

but which one?

[cunning ridge]

Maybe new naval coordination stuff?

[zenith cargo]

Absolutely

[cunning ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-damn-it-dammit-i-knew-it-not-surprised-gif-22020226

Alright Bois we need to fuse our brain cells togethor

Despite us not having many due to our overexposure to hoi4

[cunning ridge]

Cipher is morse but could be more than one type of code…

[rugged shore]

what was norway s encrypting method in ww2?

or denmarks

[torn umbra]

germans used enigma

[rugged shore]

the description is not enigma

def

[cunning ridge]

Good fockin idea?!

[rugged shore]

too little info to be enigma I think

[cunning ridge]

Denmark and Norway didn’t have time to develop encryption methods

[cunning ridge]

You. Run the message through enigma and I will try see if any Swedish encryption method was developed

[torn umbra]

im trying

[cunning ridge]

Cause the DLC can’t just be Norway and Denmark

[golden mist]

i hope finland is in it too

[spice oyster]

Would be cool to see continuation war and lapland war

[cunning ridge]

Winter war, yep sounds good

That gives me an idea

[cunning ridge]

@spice oyster @golden mist wanna help us try find the clues in the trailer? 🕵️‍♂️

[golden mist]

sure i will see what i can do

[mental nacelle]

Finland focus tree? Would be really nice

[cunning ridge]

We’ve tried the messages through several encryption methods

Most came blank

[spice oyster]

Sorry but i'm not sure if I can do it

[cunning ridge]

My guy it is fine.

[spice oyster]

I wasn't never really into decryptions 😄

[cunning ridge]

There seems to be a lighthouse in the right corner of the trailer

Any ideas?

[mental nacelle]

Surely norway coasts

So Norway and probably Denmark will have focus trees

[cunning ridge]

I was thinking that too….

[mental nacelle]

Sweden is probably gonna have one, but Finland? I hope they don't forget it

[cunning ridge]

Nah they won’t, Finland and Sweden are too important to ignore

Are the numbers 090440 significant in any other way than Weserubung?

[mental nacelle]

So 4 focus trees? That would be really nice ^^

[golden mist]

nah i dont think it is a lighthouse it looks more like a ship something like Blucher which sunk at the start of operation weserubung on 9/4/40 which is the same number on the buoy

not good quality sorry but it looks like the front of a ship

[torn umbra]

more info June 7th? see what happened on June 7, 1940

I don't know what this brings to the search, but there is additional information

[golden mist]

and a year later japan attacked pearl harbour

[cunning ridge]

Well done!

[golden mist]

so june 7 is very important

[cunning ridge]

Potentially they are reforming government in exile system!

[torn umbra]

Finally! i hate this current one

[cunning ridge]

Also the cling cling cling

Helps with the ship theory

[torn umbra]

But as for the description, it's an enigma and it says THEREAREMOREHIDDENMESSAGES and
CODEDDATEINCLOSEDGOODLUCKGENERAL

[cunning ridge]

Wait wait

This is the first time paradox has released something in morse

May be an encryption update too!

[torn umbra]

i don't think so

[spice oyster]

We can theorize

[cunning ridge]

Japan attacked pearl harbour in December I thought.

[torn umbra]

governments in exile update, encryption update, too many things in one dlc

[golden mist]

no wait your right sorry im half asleep it late where i am in the world, so im gonna leave this with u guys have fun

[torn umbra]

• some things in dev corner

[cunning ridge]

Don’t worry good luck comrade!

[cunning ridge]

Oh shit! Sweden declared neutrality the same day! And Netherlands died

[dapper tinsel]

Sweden also declared neutrality the same day

[cunning ridge]

Takin one or two ideas from a friend here

[dapper tinsel]

Yes

[cunning ridge]

So…. What do we have

[torn umbra]

Okay, so we 100% know that the next DLC will be centered around Operation Weserübung

[cunning ridge]

Yes

That’s affirmative

[dapper tinsel]

And Sweden

[cunning ridge]

Probably Scandinavia and the wider Nordic region

[torn umbra]

xD

[trail pond]

what settings you set for decoder?

oh, ok

[twilit mantle]

same

[torn umbra]

More hidden messages...

bells in background maybe?

[twilit mantle]

wait in their instagram posts they got three pictures of morse code and its ,-- ..- -. ./ --.... - .... (sorry if there are spaces where they need to be its hard to to when its split up)

[torn umbra]

it says june 7th

[idle drum]

https://www.royalcourt.no/nyhet.html?tid=183735&sek=27262

related to june 7th

[torn umbra]

.

[idle drum]

yes

ooo

[visual willow]

it's harder to find a date that is not linked with anything

[torn umbra]

and battle on midway ends in june 7th 1942

[umbral delta]

its hoi3 dlc guys

they're bringing it back

oh god more achievements

[torn umbra]

it's buoy

[dapper tinsel]

The question is from which nation?

[umbral delta]

Aland dlc

[dull tundra]

it's the date of the german invasion of Norway

[torn umbra]

maybe it is a rescue buoy

[visual willow]

devdairies where the hints, yesterday the heavy hinting, and today practically the confirmation

[dull tundra]

hmmm

wow

[twilit mantle]

Would they put any in the game files?

[visual willow]

as far as i've seen they are all just more confirmations

[nocturne loom]

June 7th last year was when By Blood Alone was announced

[torn umbra]

the thumbnail! Maybe there's something hidden in the thumbnail?

[visual willow]

it's also 1 day after HOI4s release

so practically the release day

[torn umbra]

oh

I don't have any more ideas

[dull tundra]

hoi4 anniversary

have you found four hidden messages?

the comment

[weak cape]

so dlc announcement

i called it

we all know its nordic dlc

[nocturne loom]

finally

[sinful solar]

Yea.... Sure..... Haha

[weak cape]

next we need th minors in europe to get focuses

its the rework for germany

[sinful solar]

finally

[weak cape]

look at kiel

its different

in my opinion yes

in their roadmap they said this

[visual willow]

looks like it's just in the correct spot now

the kiel channel is now in the correct spot

[sinful solar]

finally

[visual willow]

and considering denmark will have focuses for schleshwieg-holstein it makes sense to update that state

[dull tundra]

great!

[sinful solar]

hope this comes with an IFV designer

[weak cape]

look at the kiel icon

its a new one

[visual willow]

in that devdairy screenshot

[weak cape]

this is in game

see the difference

[visual willow]

kiel is worth more aswell

[sinful solar]

hopefully they'll add a north schleswieg province

[visual willow]

i still go by my last point

[solid gyro]

aswell as schleswig and holstein as seperate states

[dull tundra]

really?

[sinful solar]

yea

that'd be nice

[solid gyro]

this is just speculation

[visual willow]

considering the zone is updated it likely is

[dull tundra]

austria focus as well?

[solid gyro]

prob not

but that would be nice

[visual willow]

that wouldnt make any sense

[solid gyro]

but that would be a huge ass dlc

[weak cape]

anyone remember that pink roadmap

[visual willow]

considering they update places in regions

[dull tundra]

yea

[weak cape]

that they made

[visual willow]

or tied together countries

[weak cape]

in 2020

[solid gyro]

Nordics + Germany + austria????

[visual willow]

would be too much

[sinful solar]

yea i'd like a nordic one

[dull tundra]

they said much much more once

[solid gyro]

exaclty

[sinful solar]

nordic countries suck

they always sit there

and do nothing

[weak cape]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/926491526207529020/975458140214685746/twojastara2.gif

L

[sinful solar]

sometimes finland messes up your game too by dragging your allies into a war with the russians before ur ready

[solid gyro]

xD

[sinful solar]

and if u dont join u lose ur allies

[dull tundra]

they said much much more on a dev dairy a while ago

[twilit mantle]

Will we be getting the actual dlc on the 7th or just more news?

[dull tundra]

more news

[visual willow]

i find it highly unlikely to be the whole dlc considering the devdairies

[weak cape]

announcement

bruh

not the whole dlc

[solid gyro]

announcement

[weak cape]

they gon publish a trailer for it

[dull tundra]

still wip an dev dairy's

[solid gyro]

very WIP

[sinful solar]

i wish they would do more with cores

its a key flaw in the game design

[solid gyro]

yeah

would be nice to be able to core states

[sinful solar]

theres no real point to annexing your neighbors cause you won't get cores on them ever

[solid gyro]

trough decisions

[sinful solar]

well i disagree

but i think

[visual willow]

compliance before BBA

[dull tundra]

late game pol power is too much

[sinful solar]

if compliance reaches 90%

you should be allowed to core them for like 500 pp

[visual willow]

but free coring whatever state would just be dumb

[solid gyro]

yeah

[sinful solar]

and their population would be reduced as well

[solid gyro]

yes

[sinful solar]

because if you're "coring" a province

[dull tundra]

late game pol use tho

[visual willow]

there is no way london would 100% support a fascist indonesian empire that wants to kill them all

[sinful solar]

you're kinda gonna be

genociding them or kicking them out

[solid gyro]

xD

[sinful solar]

um

well if you kill all the anglos

and take the women

the next generation will be indonesian

and they will support you

[solid gyro]

if germany is getting a rework i hope they will ad more reichkommisariats

[sinful solar]

and so compliance goes up

[dull tundra]

YES

[visual willow]

timescale is unrealistic within hoi4 and even then you wont get to core everything because you simply run out of manpower eventually

[weak cape]

guy

[sinful solar]

look at you rpfp

stop giving your bad opinions

[weak cape]

does anyone remember that roadmap they put out in 2020 in a conference?

it had a pink background

[solid gyro]

nah

[weak cape]

i cant find it

it included what was coming next

[dull tundra]

what about generic hasburg branch

[visual willow]

even the soviets werent that fast in the biggest massmovement of people ever when they forcifully extorted the germans

[solid gyro]

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/hoi4-dev-diary-1-9-1-patch-roadmap-update.1370573/

this?

[sinful solar]

the time is obviously going to be scaled down to fit the game

but regardless

it needs to be implemented

[visual willow]

it really does not need to be

[sinful solar]

if you don't think so you're just not understanding HOI4

[dull tundra]

was the generic hasburg branch a thing?

[sinful solar]

theres no reason to annex anyone unless you'll get cores on them

[visual willow]

maybe incentivizing your players not to just annex everything is also a good thing

[sinful solar]

there is no incentive to do that

[visual willow]

oh no!
anyways

[sinful solar]

yea its clear that cores need to be reworked

compliance should be reworked as well

so its harder to get compliance

[dull tundra]

maybe not

[sinful solar]

players dont really feel any struggle at all with the garrison system and compliance system

that should be a challenging aspect

[dull tundra]

i do

[sinful solar]

..

how?

[weak cape]

found it

[visual willow]

why, apart from "i want to", should cores be given for free instantly within an extremely unbrealistic timeframe anyways

[dull tundra]

i'm bad this game what can i say?

[weak cape]

so basically something within this

[visual willow]

you dont need to be good to simply have equipment

[sinful solar]

you didn't even read what i said did you

they definetly shouldn't be free or instant

once compliance in a state reaches 90% you should be able to core it for a significant amount of pp

[weak cape]

FOUND IT

so this is it

[solid gyro]

hmm

[visual willow]

the only cost you gave was genocide

[dull tundra]

sand country pack with free patch

[visual willow]

aka manpower

manpower is practically free in hoi4

[weak cape]

since we know italy rework and peace is alr done

[dull tundra]

incoming

[weak cape]

its scandinavia

[sinful solar]

and the cost of doing so in such a small time period implies your killing or exiling people from the state, so coring it would result in a loss of population from a state

not only does that reduce manpower, it also reduces how many factories you can have in that state

and manpower is not free

[visual willow]

in hoi4 it is

[sinful solar]

for most countries manpower is a problem at some point

unless you're only playing majors

in which case you suck

and you should quit

[visual willow]

unless you are in a massive cope war and never are gonna have any peacedeal untill the end of all the wars, manpower is not a problem

[sinful solar]

so yes this idea of compliant cores would be a cool system

[visual willow]

you can use your puppets manpower extremely easily

wait nvm

[sinful solar]

sorry everything you say is just so not fax

[visual willow]

you're a annex all addict

[sinful solar]

just log off

im literally explaining why i don't annex and ur brain is imploding trying to figure out how game mechanics work

[visual willow]

i dont think you are trying to understand yourself so eh

[solid gyro]

scew this guys

lets just move on

[sinful solar]

so true

cool idea

necessary mechanic

[solid gyro]

🙂

[sinful solar]

but wont be implemented

bc too many idiots would complain

[visual willow]

"necessary "

[solid gyro]

oh god. please stop

[sinful solar]

yea necessary cuz it'd make singleplayer fun

[solid gyro]

the both of you

[sinful solar]

and pointful

(it is neither)

[dull tundra]

stop!!

[visual willow]

are you playing the game solely for the hope you get to maybe eventually genocide???

cause if it is "to core stuff" that's an even weaker reason to play it

[sinful solar]

ad hominem ad hominem

understand what im saying please

[visual willow]

it's hard to understand delusion

[sinful solar]

brah

check yo profile cuh

u clearly disconnected from reality

[visual willow]

and considering you like to unnecessary bash me for my pfp, i'm probably more right because i dont use those weak argument

[sinful solar]

its not unecessary

[visual willow]

good to know mr troll, laters

[sinful solar]

it ruins your credibility

because it makes you look like an idiot

and your credibility is further ruined by your inability to make any valid points that aren't simple ad hominems

[weak cape]

so uh

chat gpt

[visual willow]

anyways, wondering if the commie and demo trees would be either boring af or have.... actual content

[weak cape]

yall think its right?

[dull tundra]

let us investigate the mystery

hmm

[weak cape]

that sounds like something they would say

[visual willow]

guys i think the mystery might be that it is the nordics dlc

[weak cape]

especially when you "investigate" the crypted message

[dull tundra]

i wish i could

[weak cape]

we all know

but maybe germany rework too I hope

[dull tundra]

pls pls pls germany

[visual willow]

hopefully there will be a britain rework

[weak cape]

its not too bad compared to germany or hungary

[visual willow]

seems to be equally likely with these sought out "clues"

[weak cape]

how would uk make sense tho?

[visual willow]

how would germany make sense tho?

[dull tundra]

it's one of the most played countries

[visual willow]

and since when is that the way pdx chooses which trees to pick next

[red meadow]

its enigma, the first line decodes to "THEREAREMOREHIDDENMESSAGES"
and the second decodes to "CODEDDATEINCLOSEDGOODLUCKGENERAL"

[weak cape]

ooh could work as well

[dull tundra]

could it not be Scandinavia?

[weak cape]

what are the more hidden messages tho?

[weak cape]

it is

[red meadow]

i think it means that more will be released as we approach jun 7

[weak cape]

this is literally the invasion of denamrk and norway

the start

[red meadow]

finally making denmark surrender after 6 hours instead of fighting

[dull tundra]

wouldn't be cool if you had six in game hours to do stuff?

[visual willow]

"guys i think the next dlc might be the middle east"

[spice oyster]

heavy water in Norway would also make sense for Germany to be choosen

Which would be connected to wunderwaffe rework

[visual willow]

dont think the wunderwaffe rework will come this update

[solid gyro]

i think all the signs point at scandinavia

[solid gyro]

Swedistan

xD

[visual willow]

with the global market and designers update

[dull tundra]

could they be deceiving us?

[solid gyro]

nah

i dont think so

[visual willow]

plus support companies soft balance update

wunderwaffes is probbaly a mechanic too much

[solid gyro]

then all these teasers would be all for nothing

aight guys

ima head out

ima be back later

keep searching for hints!

[visual willow]

pdx isnt one to just randomly drops clues, no, confirmations about a region then just randomly pick another

[velvet shuttle]

@fallen zenith basically

Support co scale with div amount

[fallen zenith]

I rly like the changes tbh

[velvet shuttle]

And they buff depending on unit amount

Recon is nice to have it's use

[fallen zenith]

Also reduces how effective 10w are

[velvet shuttle]

I like it as it's a nerf to org wall/bricks

Yes exactly

It's a much needed buff to offensive units

The game will be healthier with offensive divs being the best defense

[fallen zenith]

Yep. Curious how the meta will develop

[velvet shuttle]

Incentives micro

Roach will always exist

It's not potent enough

To change it

[fallen zenith]

Also they made MP useful

Especially for defensive units

@velvet shuttle did you see that?

[velvet shuttle]

Sorry got 2 convos going on*

[fallen zenith]

Lol np

[velvet shuttle]

But yeah

Some of the defensive buffs are nutty

[polar jasper]

Well darn, the video basically says my idea for a Southeast Asia DLC is gone

[velvet shuttle]

So it's oof imo

[fallen zenith]

Oof? Good or bad?

[velvet shuttle]

I really wish tanks were a little stronger

Or offensives in general

I miss microing to defend

[visual willow]

recon now gives tanks more hard attack iirc soo

[fallen zenith]

I feel like +10% hard attack from recon won't be useful

[velvet shuttle]

Instead of WW1 crap

[polar jasper]

Play Ethiopia

[velvet shuttle]

Not like that lmao

[visual willow]

ethipia in mp

[velvet shuttle]

In mp

[polar jasper]

Oh, in MP

[fallen zenith]

Yea. I feel like it should increase something else too

[polar jasper]

Missed the 1st half of the conversation

[fallen zenith]

Not just in MP tho. These are gonna be interesting in general

Anyways gtg

[polar jasper]

Wait, armored recon provides flat stats and not really effected by the stats of the tank right? Is the new hard attack a flat stat or a modifier?

[velvet shuttle]

Read dev thing*

It's basically 10% to all tank battalions

Which translates to like

6-7% I suppose

As you will have mech mixed in

Well Im oversimplifying

But you get the idea

The mech isn't effected

Although the stats don't really come from the mech

So probably is closer to 9-10% increase

[dull tundra]

any more clues disscoverd?

[solid gyro]

nah

anyone else?

[lyric falcon]

I thought maybe it might lead to the nordics. since it is very close to the end of operation Weserübung in june 10 1940

[solid gyro]

no shit

xD

everyone knows its gonna be nordic dlc + german rework

or something like that

[lyric falcon]

oh

[solid gyro]

but in the description of the video paradox wrote "THERE ARE MORE CLUES"

[lyric falcon]

ive been waitng for german rework for so long now

[solid gyro]

yeah

its probably gonna come now

[lyric falcon]

honestly after that japan needs a rework

more work in asia would be nice

since japan hasnt gotten its own dlc i dont think

[solid gyro]

yeah

[solemn vapor]

If the update is gonna be about the Nordics. We need an achievement about the Finno-Korean Hyper War meme

[dull tundra]

how about a Belgian focus

title/des./comment/buoy

what about the lighthouse?

[solemn vapor]

The buoy has the date 09/04/40 on it. Or the date that Germany launched Operation Weserübung (Aka attacked Denmark/Norway)

[dull tundra]

i know but thx! 🙂

[solemn vapor]

👍

[dull tundra]

what about the lighthouse?

EVERYONE!

[solemn vapor]

well Norway is somewhat known for their lighthouse but idk

[dull tundra]

they said three more hidden after being edited

[odd sedge]

It seems like the watch tower that spotted and sunk the Blücher

At least to me

[worthy warren]

my money's on that its a nordic update

[odd sedge]

I think everyone’s money is on that

[dull tundra]

instant pre-order

[worthy warren]

when the nordic update comes what countries are left? (that deserve a focus tree)

[solemn vapor]

Liberia

[dull tundra]

middle east

[crystal haven]

Iran

[dull tundra]

south america

central america

asia

[lilac terrace]

middle east, latin america, oceania

[strange sparrow]

nepal

[solid gyro]

"latin america"

xD

Counties / areas that need foucstrees : 1. All european nations that dont already got one. 2. middle east.

[dull tundra]

how about malta?

[visual willow]

occupied at game start so those are neglected
albania and luxembourg dont really need them though

[untold vine]

after scandinavia, I feel it's better to rework some focus trees instead of making more for countries like saudi arabia etc

[dull tundra]

what about hoi5?

[stark sandal]

Has anyone figured out what the cipher on the YT video is? (CVKCXCUGBRALSBMBMHOYCCCKXA
TBFBZFWBPUZBOCBILAMNWZEWADZBRJRK)

[solid gyro]

now i got a gut feeling germany might get reworked

cuz of operation weserubung

[solemn vapor]

Wouldn’t be surprised

Germany 3.0

[solid gyro]

nahhhh

wati

maybe

cuz it only got reworked in waking of tiger, plus it needs a major rework like italy had lol

plus its one of the main causes of WW2, so i think it'll get something inbetween the size of italy & ussr

[dull tundra]

maybe bigger

[solid gyro]

oooo, i'd be excited for that

[untold vine]

its engima and says "THEREAREMOREHIDDENMESSAGES" and "CODEDDATEINCLOSEDGOODLUCKGENERAL"

[dull tundra]

me too

[solid gyro]

though it better include trees for spartacist uprising, democratic germany (with chances of expansion to get lands back as a "Greater Bund"), german confederation or HRE, and the kaiserreich with different states lol

[dull tundra]

maybe a Rhineland state rework

[solid gyro]

possibly

[dull tundra]

so it actually covers france

[solid gyro]

actually wait

[stark sandal]

Silly american me was confused b/c I read it as september 4th, 1940

[solid gyro]

if germany gets communist path

would it also have to include all communist factions?

[dull tundra]

yes?

what about it spliting

you know west and east germnay?

[solid gyro]

no no not like that

the communist socialist party splits

[dull tundra]

huh?

[solid gyro]

they'll probably add that

[solid gyro]

there's different leaders for communist party

[dull tundra]

one with ussr one not?

[stark sandal]

ty, I thought it would be a whole ARG thing. a little disappointed ngl

[solid gyro]

talking ernest thalman, wilhelm pieck, walter ulbricht

[dull tundra]

i can't wait for june 7th

[solid gyro]

the specific leaders and what they supported

@dull tundra
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2888818205

keep that as an idea

[lilac terrace]

most euro countries that dont have focus trees dont need one

we dont need a deep ireland, luxembourg, or andorra tree

after the nordic update europe is pretty much fully fleshed out

[lilac terrace]

literally every other euro country has one

[visual willow]

Not like that matters, europe is the main theater after all

[lilac terrace]

its the main center for content, yes but hoi has always been advertised as driving any nation through the period of ww2

just because most thing happens in europe or china, doesnt mean everywhere else should be devoid of content

its not like the devs cant do it anyway, the game is currently the most successful pdx gs game rn im pretty sure

[visual willow]

Didn't mean it like that, i read it more as "enough countries have trees in europe, no need for more"

[solemn vapor]

Same

I put in September and was confused then I realized

European moment

[lilac terrace]

update map

*to my knowledge

[stark sandal]

what would you like, next South America or Middle East?

Prolly SA for me

[lilac terrace]

i want both equally

[astral scarab]

I think middle east

It closer to europe

And the africa war

[stark sandal]

middle east might be fun for Oil related stuff

[lilac terrace]

but middle east would def have more content

[astral scarab]

SA kinda far away from everything

[stark sandal]

like they could do a netherlands type deal where you could give more oil to axis or allies

yea honestly middle east would be better now that I think abt it

[lilac terrace]

could also have focuses to bring back ancient empires

[stark sandal]

Can't wait to have the byzantines join the Allies

wait no

not byzantines

ah babylon

thats what I was thinking of

or persia

[lilac terrace]

Akkadian Empire, Babylonian Empire, Persian Empire

could even add the hittites if you wanted to

[stark sandal]

who are the Akkadians?

[lilac terrace]

nevermind i was thinking of Achaemenid Empire, but they controlled Mesopotamia

[stark sandal]

oh alr

Here is the image I was thinking of:

[lean comet]

Brazil was more important to allies than you think

[stark sandal]

yea, there were a lot of Brazilian foreign legions right?

[lean comet]

Yes, the expeditionary force

That fought in Italy

And Brazil first was going to join AXIS

[stark sandal]

was there any significant economic contributions?

like resources

or was it just volunteers

[lean comet]

I could say Brazil yes, not just that but medics too, and stratetic points to help USA going to the african continent

Plus Brazil got a lot to join Allies

USA was afraid Brazil would join AXIS

And bring it to the american continent

And the air force helped too

[stark sandal]

was there any reason for that fear? like was there any signs that brazil would join or was it just preventative?

[lean comet]

Brazil was commanded by a dictator, that sympatized with the facism

I just hope the next DLC brings Brazil a focus tree

[stark sandal]

I think Venezuela would be neat as well.

[lean comet]

Ye

[umbral delta]

man paradox has max 4 more dlcs then all of these countries have focus trees but besides the nordic countries everything else I feel is going to be a hard sell considering the less of a presence they had in the war, but that does open possibilities of rereworks but I don't know if paradox would want to do that since we are already going to be very close to a new game if we saw another 2-4 dlcs.

[keen chasm]

I tought we would have S.A. this dlc, along with a american rework

But nah 100% gonna be a nordics + germany dlc

And honestly that's for the best because Germany is probably the most important country of Hoi4

[lilac terrace]

yeah, after nordics i see a middle east and then south america dlc then maybe a couple reworks for portugal or some commonwealth countries, then they do bug fixes for a little bit and then retire the game

[umbral delta]

yeah I imagine after eu5 comes out we will see hoi5 but that's like 3 years+

[lilac terrace]

hoi5 will need be MASSIVE if they want it to succeed, i dont really see a clean slate like the hoi3-hoi4 transition

[umbral delta]

so it does fit well

[sour socket]

If anyone is to lazy to decode paradox's message

[umbral delta]

hoi5 gonna flop if they just dont carry over the progress

[sour socket]

It was: June 7#

[umbral delta]

i hate to see hoi4 dlc go to waste man

though a lot of quality of life would be great to see

[lilac terrace]

yeah, but on top of that they have to make a good game and add new features, but based on paradoxes track record it could def be a big flop

most recent paradox games have been flops im pretty sure

ck3 sucks, and is mediocore with over 100$ of dlc, and we all know how bad victoria 3 is

[umbral delta]

going from hoi3 to hoi4 is jarring, and so is release day hoi4 to today

they could pull it off I just don't know what they would do since theres so much dlc now

perhaps they could expand the games time from like 1933 to 1953 or something, and really make the game much less of a sluggish late game issue

[lilac terrace]

but when hoi4 came out hoi was very small, and if it was a flop it wasnt as big of a deal

now hoi4 is their biggest strategy game, that can hit top 10 concurrent players when dlc is dropped and is essentially complete not including the gargantuan array of mods

[lilac terrace]

they said they would consider adding ww1

for the game to go from 1910-1948

[umbral delta]

that would be nice but that is definietely gonna make the game much more economic because for 10 years you can rely on a focus tree, but 38 I don't know

[lilac terrace]

but i dont see a hoi game lasting that long at all, unless they add different timelines like 1910-1928, 1928-1936, 36-48

or they could do something that isnt ww2, but rather cold war or modern day, which i wouldnt mind

[lilac terrace]

i dont see them adding like a deep economy

but if they do ww2 again i probably wont buy it for awhile, id rather see hoi go to something different

[umbral delta]

yeah man it's gonna be difficult like Wii to Wii U

[paper estuary]

Yo we into the South America debate again? Noice

SA could play nicely with new International Market update (tho still a bit unclear and in development)
I can imagine SA Focus Trees where you either get bonus trade with Allies and promote democracy, or similar with Axis, or you promote national industry in a hurry at the cost of stability

[hollow lion]

Yeh SA seems the perfect place to buy leftover guns or make that themselves but buy specialist equipment from other countries

[paper estuary]

I know it's some 20-30 years after WW2, but South America countries started buying huge amounts of military equipment from Major Powers during Military Regimes in the 60s and 70s

So I see it as totally coherent behavior from SA

[jolly lily]

I feel like this update will have something to do with the D-day invasion or The Battle of Midway

[sly condor]

Prolly about Scandinavia

In the video, there is a date on the buoy : 9 April 1940. This is the date of operation Weserübung (the invasion of Denmark by Germany)

[jolly lily]

well I used a Vigenère cipher and found the message in the description has many meaning depending on the key that is used. after looking up the date that is shown in morse code I found that there were two famous battels that changed the course of the war the first being the Battle of Midway, and the invasion of Normandy or more commonly known as D-day

[lunar folio]

Literally what could they make about those

At the least, what could they make that is so specific the main theme is D-Day or Midway

[paper estuary]

Germany and Japan national trees rework? 👀

Besides the pretty obvious Scandinavia theme ofc

[jolly lily]

they may be reworking the navy since no one knows how to use it properly, that and D-day was a navel invasion

[lunar folio]

I can almost guarantee navy will not get another total rework, and they've basically added about as much flavour to naval invasions as they can

[jolly lily]

yeah, tbh it wouldn't be a bad idea to offer a simplified navy

[solid gyro]

Navy is fine

It’s just you have to research too much

[solid gyro]

I’m sure they’ll rework support companies and add an international market

[lilac terrace]

na if ur focusing on navy and u know what to research its fine

most naval research doesnt take long, apart from brand new hulls

[brazen marlin]

the morse code is JUNE 7TH

[lunar tangle]

whats the type of code at description of morse video?

[quick barn]

What if it's a red herring and it's actually September 4th 1940 ?

[woeful anchor]

So what dose the morse code say?

[green shell]

June 7th something?

[solid gyro]

That something will be announced today and that have more secret thing to discover

Today or other day, I forgor

[frozen anchor]

Paradox better add Christian Frrederik von Schalburg to the scandinavia dlc for denmark

[sinful solar]

navy is easy

idk how nobody gets it

[lilac quartz]

2

[jaunty nymph]

they dont wanna take the time to learn it

[lilac quartz]

i did, didnt know how easy it was to comprehend

[odd sedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/13y7m7s/why_has_nobody_talked_about_the_description_of/jmlksu6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3

[hollow plover]

Guys new dlc gonna add a new scenario: 13 March 1938 when anchluss occurs! Also added focuses to historical german path. In addition revamp to british and french focuses with historical and liechstien/andorra, vatican, monaco and san marino gonna be added

[visual willow]

as representative of the netherlands i would love to know what you're smoking because we have nothing like that here

[sharp laurel]

Bro you are not the latest update stop playing 🫵 😡 🔥

[solid gyro]

NICE

[spice oyster]

You know, NSDAP has 90 years anniversary this year so it would make sense to rework Germany this year 😄
I know, this one was harsh

[forest flicker]

Und

[solid gyro]

NEXT DLC ???? INDIA - ISREAL???

[solid gyro]

i said that too!

[hollow lion]

@solid gyroNo Politics stuff

[solid gyro]

._.

[fossil lantern]

Nordic Countries

I think

India was already in incorporated in a DLC

long long time ago

[hollow lion]

Together for Victory adds an ancient tree for it yeh

[visual willow]

Which is so bad they should really give it a brand new one

[solid gyro]

no shit. i was just trolling m8 😂

[tulip bolt]

It's definitely a Nordic dlc

Date on the thing is the operation date for invasion of Norway, the cold harbor probably a reference to Narvik.

Lastly, 7th of June is the date where Norway left the Swedish union.

[lunar folio]

Are you sure? Since it’s June 7th it could just as likely be a DLC commemorating the deaths of 6000 Canadians due to a Cholera outbreak in Quebec in 1832

[visual willow]

true

[tulip bolt]

Not really, the 7th of June isn't the primary evidence, it's just something that adds a layer.

[lunar folio]

Quebec is a cold harbour city

[visual willow]

hoi4's anniversary is like, within the same week

[tulip bolt]

Look at the date, it's the launch day of Operation Weserubung, the invasion of Denmark and Norway.

[spice oyster]

nah

[lunar folio]

It’s also the day a cholera outbreak started in Quebec that killed 6000 people

And we all know which of these is more important to WW2

[tulip bolt]

Norway definitely. Canada was just a colony.

[spice oyster]

why would they update Canada in their war effort initiative then

[lunar folio]

Clearly the devs are still grieving over the deaths of those 6000 people, and are planning to make a tribute DLC

[spice oyster]

It doesnt make much sense to update focus tree and then completely rework it

[tulip bolt]

I assume he's just troll.

[lunar folio]

Of course I am

[spice oyster]

you never know

[lunar folio]

I literally said that the 6000 people that died was in 1832

[tulip bolt]

Oh, you can definitely know. Because a troll is either messing with you or very dumb.

Speaking from fairytale perspective

Honestly, just excited been hoping for Nordic focus tree. Hopefully makes playing a bit more fun.

Would be fun too if there was also some unification stuff.

[spice oyster]

I just personaly hope that they will do Finnish focus properly

I see lot of oportunities there

[valid harbor]

hello everyone<3

[spice oyster]

hi

[visual willow]

nah, the nordics have trees that only makes them divide harder

[solid gyro]

Hey, each time i load a auto-save game in mp the hud disappears, what can i do?

[sinful solar]

[spice oyster]

https://youtube.com/shorts/LSuzGnBGlc4?feature=share

Totally stealthy

[paper estuary]

Sneaky PDX

[steady charm]

clearly they wouldnt show it on ships if it was a tribute dlc

rather a hospital or something

[dull tundra]

Nordic DLC confirmed

[visual willow]

it already was

[solid gyro]

im so fricking hyped

ngl

[dull tundra]

me too!

[paper estuary]

I wonder what unique mechanic will be added exclusively with this DLC

[spice oyster]

capitulation in 6 hours 😄

[solid gyro]

Accordingly, we MAY have the chance to get the coastal guns feature.

Or more accurately, coastal defenses system.

[sand tapir]

lets see if denmark is going to be more historical and capitulate even before the first battle on jutland breaks out

since i used to have a mod on nordic countries and before the first battles even occured between germany and denmark, denmark had already declared itself to be a german puppet 💀

[solid gyro]

Ngl

They should add the bridge from Schleswig Holestein to Copenhagen like RT55

[spice oyster]

They were a puppet?

I always thought that they were occupied and that Germany didn't annexed any of their territory because of their colaboration

[keen chasm]

In historical Germany will simply annex Czechoslovakia in a event to simulate their invasion

Maybe they will do the same to Denmark?

they probably did this because Czechoslovakia is pretty strong alone but idk

[spice oyster]

Czechoslovakia was captured by German forces but Czechoslovakia didn't defended itself

similary to Austria

but the game doesn't know how to simulate those kind of fast invassions without declaration of war

maybe they will do it as an event or Germany will declare war on them just like in the current version but Dennmark will get a decision to instantly capitulate

[dull tundra]

anyone pumped for Wednesday?

[visual willow]

not really

i'm expecting just a devdairy

[dull tundra]

oh

[ebon moat]

What is the new video by the HOI4 channel about

The number of the buey must mean something

[dull tundra]

bouy is the date of the german invasion of norway

[umbral delta]

3 days before the annoucement Tianimen Square happened, this must be a link to the new DLC meanining a rework of China, and Japan (they really need to rework japan bruh)

[tawny wing]

does anyone know what the cipher for the new vid is?

there is some text in the description and I cant tell what cipher it is

[spice oyster]

scroll up man

[spice oyster]

literally there was whole brainstorming conversation when that video came up

[dull tundra]

true

[umbral delta]

I just hope the dlcs don't end up bloated like Turkey, Greece (kinda) and Bulgaria (kinda too)

[crisp phoenix]

I knew they would add Denmark, Norway, Sweden, & Finland in HOI4

And the Morse code is coming June 7th

[carmine karma]

I am just waiting to see the new monarchist trees myself

already have a theory what some of their more radical ideolodies may have in store

[livid mirage]

FINLAND FOCUS TREE FINLAND FOCUS TREEEEE

[visual willow]

Greece is the opposite of bloated, and i woupdnt say bulgaria is that bloated it's quite the perfect size

[solid gyro]

i guess the name of the dlc will be Operation Weserbung so that means a rework for germany

[visual willow]

I think it will be called plan R 4 so that meane a rework for britain

[solid gyro]

hell yeah

[solid gyro]

i doubt that will be the actual name of the dlc

im placing my bets on something like "Northern winds" or "Echoes of the north"

or something like that

[solid gyro]

that sounds better, yeah you might be right

but the only thing that i still believe is that they will make an germany rework

[solid gyro]

yeah

i belive so aswell

hype!

just 2 days left until announcement

and one day until I no longer have a cast on my leg

oo damn

(sorry for my bad english)

what happend bro

football

ah

hope your doing well brother!

im never playing football in my life

Thanks

[solid gyro]

sad

[still tendon]

hope its scandinavia dude

norway denmark and sweden tree will be so lit

[iron sierra]

I think it will be a scandinavian DLC for sure

[visual willow]

nahhh it's definitely canada

[visual willow]

I doubt it tbf

There is no basis for but that the teasers also had to do with germany.... which yeah that's because they invaded 2 and kinda allied another

[solid gyro]

well, there are screenshots in the dev diaries showcasing the correcting of the Kiel canal

[visual willow]

yeah that couldnt possibly have to do with the denmark tree

[solid gyro]

true

[visual willow]

just ignore the years the nordics had control over that region

i hope hinterpommen also gets cut in 2 or something

[keen chasm]

Teaser shows date of the german invasion

And they did show us the Kiel canal too

[visual willow]

refer to previous comments

[pure valve]

Northern schweslig?

[keen chasm]

So .. why would they showcase that, i am expecting something like Nordic shared tree (perhaps the democratic path) and full reworked Germany

[visual willow]

as hint to nordics then probs, or hell maybe they forgot cause it's an correction

[pure valve]

It said 9/4/40 on the buoy in the background

Which is April 9th 1940

[keen chasm]

Oh yeah and the shorts video was about the sinking of german boat.. and Germany may have a lot to do with MIOs.. OK I AM CONFUSED Pdx :')

[visual willow]

What would be more recognised, this or a reference to the winterwar
Theres nothing else really

[visual willow]

Sweden had a huge role to the shinking of the bismarck

[dull tundra]

really?

[visual willow]

Swedish intelligence gave most of the info

All in all a germany tree would be nice, but expecting it is really just setting your expectations up to be broken

[hollow idol]

But 4/9/1940 as well

[quick barn]

I'm sure PDX is trolling us and it's actually September 4th 1940 lmao

[glossy jungle]

The Kiel canal is a very minor change so I doubt it will focus on germany, maybe they get a rework though

[quick barn]

The Kiel canal is a very minor change

What ? I've also heard about Rostock being separated by a strait now.

[glossy jungle]

I just saw a strait in one of the dev diaries and can't remember where it was

But overall I think all the teaser stuff they've been doing is leaning way more towards the nordics but that may also change germany and the way they interact with them (continuation war, Denmark's defenseless neutrality, Swedish neutrality, etc

I'd be most looking forward to Finland as well as alt history sweden

[polar jasper]

What is wrong with historical Sweden? Should be just as fun as historical Switzerland Kappa Face

[glossy jungle]

Hoping that we get an interventionist democratic sweden as an option

[gray dragon]

there will definitely be a slight germany tweak

you cant make content for denmark & norway without slight changes to germany

[carmine karma]

Germany will probably get a slight tweak, the nordic countries will probably share a path or two in their trees, but should have mostly unique content, especially Finland, with the winter and continuation wars

[visual willow]

welllll i mean technically

[umbral delta]

they should add a communist german path as well as more base german stuff

[dull tundra]

they should add a Danzig free state

[dull tundra]

anyone found more information?

[lunar folio]

That already exists, just not on game start. The system they use makes it function like a regular occupation area but with an *

[solid gyro]

Denmark needs a North Sea Empire decision path lol

Since it is their fascist name, might as well implement that

[keen chasm]

Yeah PDX please keep the badass names

[wraith thunder]

no idiot iraq fell to usa on 4/9

we are getting iraqq tree real no fake

[quick barn]

Also Danzig doesn't have cores on Danzig

[glossy jungle]

When you clamp down on Danzig it does until you core it again

[quick barn]

Really ?

[glossy jungle]

Yeah

[dull tundra]

7th anniversary!

[dull tundra]

dlc announcement tomorrow?

[umbral delta]

yes

[solid gyro]

What time tomorrow tho

[hybrid valve]

If they update Scandinavia, would they change Britain too?

The defense of Norway and such

[hybrid valve]

I think it’s a great opportunity to give Britain a face lift

[umbral delta]

imo germany needs it m0re

[gray dragon]

dont think there will be a complete germany rework but maybe in the next one

but i think there will be additions to how britian and germany interact with norway

[spice oyster]

All we need to do is wait until tomorow

Then we will see

[gray dragon]

hopefully

would be nice if there was more additions to the monarchist and other paths

[visual willow]

🤯 pre NSB nation needs a rework??? wild

[spice oyster]

How unexpected

[odd sedge]

It was the Blücher not the Bismarck

[dull tundra]

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