the problem with africa is that the building slots are related to state properties
#latest-updates
craggy sapphire
try hovering over your building slot count
itll say smth like "developed rural region +4" or "urban region +6"
africa barely has those
they mostly have "rural region +2", "pastoral region +1" or "wasteland 0"
solid gyro
I didnt look at the screenshot, which was dumb of me. I just read the words "it's time to unite the two crowns" or however it was said wrong
Apologies
weak citrus
I want jet motor on all sorts of planes. Including CAS and navy!
solid gyro
Apologies
Ah that's no problem at all. Was just curious where you saw it
Alright, may I ask you something about the DLC?
gentle willow
No
You cannot
Unless you pay for the $20 ask Paradox question dlc
That same dlc not only allows the asking a question feature, but it also gives a new focus tree for Tannu Tuva and Cuba
solid gyro
Doesn't the dlc Also rework Mexico
silk garden
nope youre thinking of the get an answer dlc
the ask parsdox question dlc reworks guatemala
unborn iron
Yes. Except No British. Just The Union
At the time Arabian oil Industry wasnt too good i think.
It was mostly Iran. Iraq, Indonesia, USSR and Usa
lethal flower
Any prospect of adding Hobart's Funnies capability to tank development tree? (i.e. mine-clearing tanks and other specialized modules? River-crossing snorkels (for beach crossings too), other engineering equipment - armored bridging equipment, armored recovery vehicles?
solid gyro
Doesn't the dlc Also rework Mexico
MtG adds a tree to Mexico
solid gyro
MtG adds a tree to Mexico
Ye, may I ask why the team has decided to add many more infantry models for BBA
visual willow
so the modeller has work to do
visual willow
maybe they finished that?
solid gyro
I mean like Itaky has atleast 3 new unit models
The soviets didn't even get one
Ethiopia and Switzerland both get two
This is new, and amazing
visual willow
troop packs when
solid gyro
It adds the cartel path
What cartel path?
solid gyro
Ye, may I ask why the team has decided to add many more infantry models for BBA
Because people generally want them
solid gyro
What cartel path?
I'm kidding around
solid gyro
Because people generally want them
Is it also because there was no pack for the Anniversary?
It's pretty cool
Pretty strange though it's just starting now
solid gyro
Pretty strange though it's just starting now
Not really. We look at what resources we have and schedule appropriately
Hm, alright
Your doing a great job already
Well I'm not the one doing the art :p
What are you working on?
soft panther
@solid gyro idk if I can ask this but will u guys ever rework older focus trees
despite the fact that it was reworked through dlcs
solid gyro
They'de be working hoi4 forever
solid gyro
<@456226577798135808> idk if I can ask this but will u guys ever rework older fo...
Don't know, it's up to the game director. And even if I knew I couldn't tell
Personally I think Raj has the most potential, but thats just me.
Focus trees are quite intensive to produce, both on content design and testers
tame crag
Am I the only one that prefers smaller focus trees over large ones
visual willow
i prefer wide ones over tall ones if that counts
cause what do you think about the polish tree for example
solid gyro
Don't know, it's up to the game director. And even if I knew I couldn't tell
Pe...
Why not include the community or modders to help?
Kinda like open/closed beta-testers
solid gyro
Kinda like open/closed beta-testers
We have an interal testing program
Wouldn't it be cheaper to include the community?
The internal testing program includes members of the community
visual willow
i'm guessing that when making trees they do reference community made trees a lot
visual willow
oh
solid gyro
It's mostly historical resources afaik
I have never personally seen a CD looking at other mod teams focus trees.
We do have beta testers from mod teams tho
craggy sapphire
would you rework some of the older trees
solid gyro
Scroll up
craggy sapphire
right
sorry
will there be some smaller trees instead of the recently added bohemoths?
craggy sapphire
like I'd imagine the swiss tree being tinier
soft panther
do u mean u can't tell us or is it u dont know
craggy sapphire
will there be some improvements to the game for multiplayer (i.e. could it be possible to make mp run on 5speed in the future?)
solid gyro
will there be some improvements to the game for multiplayer (i.e. could it be po...
Speed 5 is not a set speed. It's as fast as your CPU can calculate the next tick. So as soon as someone can't update as fast as other people it gets reduced to 4
craggy sapphire
oh
solid gyro
Sadly that's physics in your way
craggy sapphire
I hate physics
can we patch out physics
solid gyro
Maybe in HoI9
tame crag
Hoi9 coming out in the year 30900
solid gyro
The internal testing program includes members of the community
Cool, what about the focus trees?
solid gyro
Cool, what about the focus trees?
Those are made internally by CDs
Why not open to like public or testers for help?
There's 100 reasons, all from Ethical, legality, managing it all, quality control, communication issues, having it be a cohesive product, vetting people, security, etc
Having people on a payroll ensure that they get compensated, work 8h, and if I need to talk to guy making the Italian focus tree I can walk 4 meters and ask him.
We have deadlines, and the team needs to pull in the same direction. Having free labour is inefficient because they have no obligation to pull in the same direction or show up for 4 weeks.
That's why we have hired QA testers, or hired CDs or Hired programmers. If you need a lot of people quickly it's much better to hire professionals
And people can apply for jobs here https://career.paradoxplaza.com/jobs so it's not really a secret that we are hiring for :)
solid gyro
Ah makes sense
craggy sapphire
i shall apply for a job at pdx 
OFC THEY'RE ALL IN STOCKHOLM
i don't want to move to Sweden
that's where the rotten fish dish is
literally discriminating people with proper braincells smh this company
fringe spindle
I did not quite understand one point in the Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone Feature Highlights video on Youtube the other day; Will it still be possible to deploy aircraft below 100x to airwings or is 100x a minimum?
craggy sapphire
Will PDX try to rebalance some of the doctrines to be as good as Superior Firepower?
I'd love to see the useless armored cars (no one uses those) bonuses on C3I be replaced with something better
visual willow
what does that have to do with the dev dairies
craggy sapphire
idk something to do in BBA
craggy sapphire
I did not quite understand one point in the Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone Fe...
probably not, though I am not a dev. minor nations usually get >100 fighters or planes in general, and would thus have no way of deploying them, right?
visual willow
didnt they say you could get smaller "more managable" sizes
craggy sapphire
idk but it's weird that 90% of plane wielding nations wouldn't get to deploy their starting air force
visual willow
well, they probably can then
you can a air division that will fill up to 100 but has less in it anyways so
fringe spindle
Not have the ability to adjust to whatever you want is just stupid in my opinion. Like you guys said, some minor nations have even less than 100 planes in their fleet
Just limits the player
solid gyro
Wing is set at 100. You can deploy < 100 and then they fill out as you produce more planes
For example if you can 35 planes you can deploy them as a wing of 35/100. Then that wing will reinforce up to 100.
night flint
That's a really good change IMO, I use 100 as a standard for almost all planes (naval bombers at 50 and CAS at max). Does having less than or more than 100 effect the air wing efficiency/stats?
craggy sapphire
yeah
I always hated the random 48 sizes
how will air volunteers be affected by this?
cause air volunteers have a more specific limit
night flint
Air volunteers should almost have thresholds instead of the random sizes... It's such a pain to send 212 volunteers
increments of 10 at the very least
Or select what type of air volunteers to send and have them pulled out like border wars
craggy sapphire
so trueee
tribal knot
GUYS never play with @native yoke he troll host he let a majer banned player play japan and he desink 13 times and he did nothing
native yoke
GUYS never play with <@326000894065770496> he troll host he let a majer banned ...
i am waiting a proof (anyway the play I am waiting for proof of this claim, and however the player he is talking about is @north isle)
quartz bronze
I hope not. Fuel is already a pain. Imagine trying to do Barb but with supply costing you fuel too.
lilac cargo
wonder if switzerland tree will feature a way to save gustloff and make him leader
solid gyro
god pls no my lithuania no fuel run would die in 5 seconds if i can't supply my infantry horde
Does anyone know what the frequency of feature highlights was last time?
quartz bronze
I mean making something completely historical isn't always the best thing. The axis already have trouble with fuel in barb. Throwing in supply draining fuel would just really kneecap them. It would also kneecap most minor nations that would have a large chunk of their civs eaten up by fuel. And they'd kinda be forced to research the fuel tech even if they're doing infantry only.
silk garden
its not like the axis doesnt need the nerf...
drowsy plank
Except historically you could also take fuel from civilians or pump stations as you advanced into enemy territory, which isn't physically possible in HOI, so that would Both remove chances of succes on any challenging SP run in addition to making victory for Axis in an mp hist game almost impossible
solid gyro
its not like the axis doesnt need the nerf...
the allies need a buff before 1941
visual willow
Ah yes, allies should definitely be able to beat germany without the soviets 
solid gyro
nah not that
but do you see how easy it is to end the war?
crossing the english canal
visual willow
For alies or axis
visual willow
Uk shouldnt be stupid enough to let troops get on then
solid gyro
mainland is barely defended
visual willow
That would be the UK's own fault
If it's mp the uk player is stupid, if it's sp then the problem isnt the axis being too strong
silk garden
mainland is barely defended
yea they have what, 350 ships and theres like 40 on the channel half the time
solid gyro
no it's offline
visual willow
And even then, making supply hubs cost passive fuel surely isnt a solution then
solid gyro
I don't play mp
solid gyro
yea they have what, 350 ships and theres like 40 on the channel half the time
yeah true, crossing it way too easy
visual willow
Bri ish ai moment
silk garden
germany just needs to get away from being an easy win for every greenoh
visual willow
Greenoh
solid gyro
what's a greenoh
silk garden
like not give them 12 civs and 6 mils from 3 foci
silk garden
what's a greenoh
green person
solid gyro
I still don't understand what's that lmao
silk garden
a noob
solid gyro
yeah exactly
visual willow
Maybe in future germany rework? Though ngl having just 1 easier nation is quite handy
solid gyro
Maybe in future germany rework? Though ngl having just 1 easier nation is quite ...
yeah you could always F around
conquer the world n such
visual willow
Plus game needs to be balanced for MP, SP balancing is impossible because of inept AI
silk garden
yeah but its just annoying in sp
silk garden
lmao I thought you were calling me a noob
yea came off wrong sorry
visual willow
With just the starting germany factories and army you can destroy the AI so much
silk garden
you wanna defend a bit to wear the ai down
solid gyro
With just the starting germany factories and army you can destroy the AI so much
you can paradropto france (paris) in 1937 and capitulate them
silk garden
germany also just doesnt have enough problems
visual willow
you can paradropto france (paris) in 1937 and capitulate them
Paratrooping cheez is stupid ew
silk garden
like they werent having a joyride economically
visual willow
It's less fun then battleplanning the soviets after you already killed them but you forgot your collabs
visual willow
in SP it is
It really isnt unless you are already speedrunning
Regurally paracheesing is just, meh
solid gyro
nah I don't speemdrum
visual willow
Likr yay you cheese war in a war game, now what
visual willow
why tf do you sound so personal🤣
Not my intention
visual willow
starting as germany is already OP
solid gyro
yeah good point
I once played as France when I was new
I had a maginot line accross the border
10/10 fortresses
I held the germans from 1939 to 1945
most boring yet facinating game ever
I think it was for an achievement
solid gyro
mainland is barely defended
Usually because the UK is defending its overseas territory, and either has its army destroyed in France or in Africa
silk garden
either have your army or your navy defending the mainland, but the ai usually has neither
instead like 40 ships and 5 division
solid gyro
Why adding it? Spain already has an Anarcho-Communist path
visual willow
Why adding it? Spain already has an Anarcho-Communist path
idk why does russia have a civil war path to return the monarchy if germany also has one?
solid gyro
But anarcho-communism it's something too concrete and the only country that has a respectable amount of Anarcho-Communists in ww2 was and is Spain (it still has)
solid gyro
Why adding it? Spain already has an Anarcho-Communist path
Because Ethiopia needs flavour
Ethiopia should get like a special puppet for Japan
silk garden
Ethiopia should get like a special puppet for Japan
definetly not in the ancom path, ancom propagates internationalism on a larger and more immediate scale than regular communism
silk garden
id rather core japan easier than have them as my puppet
drowsy plank
Ah yes, allies should definitely be able to beat germany without the soviets <:h...
I mean with a competent allies, you usually can beat the Axis without Soviets. Hell in one mp match it was the allies (France, Britain and Australia) against the Axis and Japan at the same time while the Americans were justifying against us. We destroyed the Japanese in the span of a bit over half a year, halted the German advance, wiped out a Scandinavian invasion of the UK who had most of his army in Asia before I as France broke through the german defences alone and essentially rolled over them, only meeting serious resistance again halfway through germany after killing 2 million or so of them...
All the while Italy had gone the meta 'air and garrisons only' route meaning hé offered no serious resistance the to my mouintaineers crashing through the Alps. A competent allies can and Will crush the Axis in MP
Its Just that hosts usually intentionally place people they consider bad players on the allies while they themselves play Axis countries
silk garden
hell in a 2v2 (uk and ussr vs germany and italy) where we were constantly switching soviet player, the one we settled on was crap so i as uk dday-ed and pushed up to the rhine while the soviet guy was capping
then we decided to call it a draw cuz my tanks were crap and the german player had so many divs but neither of us could break the other
uncut pelican
Where is the DD 😄
uncut pelican
Ah okay, to bad
prisma wing
They literally said "in 2 weeks"
In the last DD ?
visual willow
No i got that qoute from some writing on the moon
visual willow
did noone read last weeks dev dairy?
like why yall so excited for it if you arent gonna read it anyways
solid gyro
I read every one
I just remember the highlights
Most of the team are on summer vacation. Office is super empty so no DD
Ah
I was wondering when you were gonna announce that
Tbh I kinda forget you guys need breaks
gentle willow
No they don’t smh
They are robots so they must work 24/7 to pump out those dlcs
Even when the world ends, maybe they will still be working and pumping out those dlcs that we will still buy
soft panther
Most of the team are on summer vacation. Office is super empty so no DD
atleast u guys arent going on a 2 months long vacation like last year
solid gyro
atleast u guys arent going on a 2 months long vacation like last year
We never go for 2 months. Swedish paid vacation is generally 5-6 weeks. Most people go on vacation for 3-4 weeks on summer and save some for winter
soft panther
Oh mb
@solid gyro are u guys gonna go off for a official vacation soon? Or will it just be like this?
solid gyro
There's no set time for vacations. Swedes have right to 4 out of 5 consecutive weeks during june-august. Or they save parts of those 4 weeks for later in the year.
Most of the team are already on vacation, are returning or will soon go on vacation
acoustic creek
I'm personally happy we got the alt-paths already that's what excites me more personally. Guess the next one will be about the gameplay changes
solid gyro
We never go for 2 months. Swedish paid vacation is generally 5-6 weeks. Most peo...
Do you guys get time off after the launch of a new DLC
Including the time needed for bugfixes*
Or is it straight onto the next dlc
solid gyro
Do you guys get time off after the launch of a new DLC
Not unless the release coincides with vacation. For NSB the release was quite close to Christmas for example so we went for vacation then after releasing some patches
solid gyro
Cool
solid gyro
Not unless the release coincides with vacation. For NSB the release was quite cl...
Just a quick question, is the dlc gonna come out this year or the next
Don't gotta answer if you can't
I can't answer that
nocturne tree
DLC comes out when its ready to be released
solid gyro
Alright
solid gyro
DLC comes out when its ready to be released
Ye but feels like it's gonna be next year
nocturne tree
So be it
nocturne tree
We are all excited for the DLCs
but being patient is part of the fun
you can gather achievements in the meantime
raven scarab
Not unless the release coincides with vacation. For NSB the release was quite cl...
Idk if you can answer this question, but will South America get a focus tree ?
solid gyro
I beleive at some point the Devs said like they'd like to give everyone
visual willow
hopefully south america will get a focus tree untill the DoD trees and such are all reworked
no way that bolivia deserves a tree before chzechoslovakia and romenia get great trees
nocturne tree
yeah czech needs a rework
really badly
its entire focus tree is centered around the Sudeten forts
gentle willow
We still need an Albanian tree. Same for Tannu Tuva.
The most important countries during World War II
solid gyro
Idk if you can answer this question, but will South America get a focus tree ?
Can't answer that either.
General I can't answer stuff like "will we do X".
I can answer that I would personally like but that's not always the same as what the project needs
raven scarab
Can't answer that either.
General I can't answer stuff like "will we do X".
I...
Ah ok I’m sad now 😞
visual willow
Dw south america doesnt deserve focus trees anyways 💜
soft panther
ong
bunch of south Americans crying and arguing about why south america took significant part in ww2
honeatly just cry
solid gyro
Can't answer that either.
General I can't answer stuff like "will we do X".
I...
Do the dev teams know that the Ecuador border is wrong
solid gyro
I'm Freddy Fazbear
raven scarab
bunch of south Americans crying and arguing about why south america took signifi...
I’m not from there I think it would be funny thags it
solid gyro
If every countries’ has its on focus tree it makes a fun in-hist game
lunar finch
Can't answer that either.
General I can't answer stuff like "will we do X".
I...
Will Ethiopia get additional states or will it still be one state twice the size of france?
smoky hinge
It's already confirmed they have more states
Back in the first Italian dev diary iirc
lunar finch
Sweet
lunar finch
Back in the first Italian dev diary iirc
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/developer-diary-italy-1.1531121/
I don’t see it. Do you mean this one?
smoky hinge
Maybe the first Ethiopian diary idk I don't remember
lunar finch
Alright
crystal crag
Hello, so hopefully now only new game mechanics, bug fixes, AI improvements and balance dev diaries are left (I couldn't care less about focus trees) ... I think that aircraft designer allows plane to have certain mission (air superiority, ground support, naval attack...) according how the plane will be designed...
humble jasper
No dev diary this week, any reason why?
soft panther
they are mostly at vacation
humble jasper
they are mostly at vacation
Ah ok
soft panther
on*
manic timber
just release the dlc already
i want to play it before my conscription date
which is 4 month left
gentle willow
Imagine buying the subscription and not owning it permanently
No but fr, always check out the Humble Bundle sells
Really cheap for stuff and it goes to charity at the same time
crystal crag
i want to play it before my conscription date
Tell your ministry of defense to set conscription law to volunteers only.
soft panther
no his country doesn't have the political power
shrewd marsh
I predicted Ethiopia would be able to buy Jamaica
Stil hoping you can buy Equatorial Guinea from Spain and the. Proceed to naval invade Liberia to bring peace.
manic timber
Tell your ministry of defense to set conscription law to volunteers only. <:haHa...
He wont listen since we also know our manpower is getting low dangerously 💀
gentle willow
i want to play it before my conscription date
Lol, I just realized you said conscription, not subscription XD
quasi root
I predicted Ethiopia would be able to buy Jamaica
Where is it said that they will be able to?
shrewd marsh
Where is it said that they will be able to?
I read trugh the entire dew log for Ethiopia I don’t remember.
I think it was where they explained some of the focus paths
Here
solid gyro
Ethiopian colonialism
quasi root
I think it was where they explained some of the focus paths
Thanks dude 👍
lunar finch
<:oof:995988128668061728>
what country you from?
lunar finch
I predicted Ethiopia would be able to buy Jamaica
not a hard preicition because haile selassie is a god in rastafarianism
shrewd marsh
I dident know that i just guessed it cus it would be cool
solid gyro
Oh my God he actually is
There should be like a pith or focus for him going on a crusade
I def. Know there will be an acheivement about controlling Jerusalem with him
solid gyro
U mean focuses
stoic mist
South Africa is an odd one. Actually played it tonight. Got right up to the border of Belgium's African territories, but it kind of turned into a stalemate. Also, Italy did Italy things, so I had to watch Italy lose El Elmien and part of North Africa while I managed to sink a good hundred thousand or so invading Allied troops in South Africa via submarine (I think it was actually far more, but I have the game closed down).
How do people generally pull off the conquests as South Africa? Just seems like a daunting task to finish, especially since you are so weak to start.
plain elm
solid gyro
South Africa is an odd one. Actually played it tonight. Got right up to the bord...
Your best best is probably exploiting
Maybe building an Airforce and joining the axis quickly
And paradropping england
rigid niche
I think malaysia deserve a focus tree bc their the only british puppet that dosent have one
solid gyro
What did Malaysia actually do In ww2
lunar finch
Get their ass kicked by Japan
nocturne tree
like basically every other allied country
zenith scaffold
Get their ass kicked by Japan
To be fair it was the British fault that they died
soft pendant
What did Malaysia actually do In ww2
British and Japanese torturing them 💀
soft pendant
I think malaysia deserve a focus tree bc their the only british puppet that dose...
I agree tho
quartz bronze
I'm enjoying the death of the heavy cruiser light attack spam
The cost increase of light cruiser guns to make them a bit less viable is also nice
half ingot
solid gyro
Why is afar a state
Whats the historical context behind that
And does this mean we have a new starting nation
hard orchid
why is there still no austria focus tree
hard orchid
why is ethiopia getting a focus tree
they can take back somalia and eritrea then what
hard orchid
how are they ever gonna beat france or uk
solid gyro
if its an ai then ez
hard orchid
ai france and uk will still be hard to beat well i mean unless you go fascist and join axis and germany sends help
quartz bronze
why is ethiopia getting a focus tree
tbf the ethiopia tree and warseems kind of interesting, However I would've loved an Austria instead of switzerland.
hard orchid
yeah
solid gyro
🇭🇷
hard orchid
actually austria is useless what we need is an update for middle eastern nations
middle east could be very fun
hard orchid
japan has an ok focus tree tho
solid gyro
actually austria is useless what we need is an update for middle eastern nations
Better
South America rework
To make them do anything
At all
hard orchid
bro who wants to play in jungle/mountains all game
solid gyro
People who want acheivements
Who wants to play in deserts all game
It's like the same thing
But an Iraq focus would be nice
hard orchid
same with iran
acoustic creek
India feels absurdly bare bones tbh
soft panther
yeah india and canada comeon
hard orchid
canada is fine
soft panther
no
hard orchid
i think so
soft panther
k
scenic plinth
Romania got extremely scammed in my AustriaHungary game: i got the whole transylvania and the bucovina, Bulgaria got a Southern province and Soviets got Bessarabia
They lost like 2/3 of their land lol
sweet wadi
harsh bane
The link does not seem to work.
@plain elm ⬆️
Okey, now it showed up. It needed a few mins to warm up, I guess.
solid sun
dapper fjord
Me-163 for bombing(?).. niceee...
uncut pelican
Dev diary is awesome
Please make enough options for modding
Would be really cool if the tank piercing mechanism could be patched in this update as well, to add degrees of piercing
quartz bronze
Air designer is awesome
Time to make my flying fortress strats with the double hmg turrets that shoot down any fighters.
topaz kettle
Air designer hype time!!!!!!!
iron spindle
Strategic Bomber hull
Full machine guns
Set them to Air Superiority
quartz bronze
Nah strats aren't allowed on air superiority
That would be absolutely busted if they were
I wonder how good dirt cheap kamikazes would be. Super zoomy boys that go boom since extra thrust turns into speed.
topaz kettle
Average cas damage if it doesn’t get nerfed since it’s probably going to become even more overpowered with the designer
solid gyro
Oh god, time to see the air get nerfed now same as tanks
The new meta will be infantry only now. Not that it wasn’t already lol
visual willow
I dont think having just infantry will ever be better then planespam or using tanks
So hey maybe now there is just better balance instead
hot cove
*Strategic Bomber hull*
*Full machine guns*
*Set them to Air Superiority*
they specifically said strat bombers cant do air superiority
solid gyro
So hey maybe now there is just better balance instead <:haHaa:911393398211117107...
When did they ever care about balance lol?
obsidian vault
I am going to listen to Sabaton's Red Baron on repeat while reading the new dev diary and NO ONE CAN STOP ME 
silk garden
Higher, the king of the sky
solid gyro
Lol
Even tho the new dlc will nerf planes probably I wonder if the strats will now be allowed in mp games hmmm
I can’t wait to make a start with ic cost of 300
silk garden
tfb planes in vanilla
visual willow
Hopefully the new air meta wont be just a plane that excels in both air superiority and cas
solid gyro
We've sent bathtubs into the ocean
We've sent a wave of bathtubs on land
It's time to make them fly
willow pivot
The bad thing is that minor nations will become even more difficult
willow pivot
It's time to make them fly
ISP moment
willow pivot
The bad thing is that minor nations will become even more difficult
3 research slots for navy/tanks/air and other stuff
They need to buff research slot focus trees lol
solid gyro
I dont understand navy very well
I somewhat understand Tanks
This is just amo8ng the game harder
Making*
I hope the don't nerf Air exp cause that would actually allow for the constant upgrade of fighters
willow pivot
Well currently cas is broken
You can fully upgrade cas with 400 air xp
Or maybe less
obsidian vault
Hopefully the new air meta wont be just a plane that excels in both air superior...
Why not? That's what the historical meta became after all
Specialized light CAS were built for mounting tank busters, mostly
visual willow
"Historical meta" doesnt always make for fun gaming experience
solid gyro
thats the cold war and later meta wtf
also as the DD said you can do a plane that does everything but it will fail vs a specialed plazne
obsidian vault
"Historical meta" doesnt always make for fun gaming experience
If the devs want to try and model this realistically, which I think they do, they will probably create a tradeoff between damage and survivability.
That means fast fighter-bombers with very few modules attached will do less damage than a full blown CAS, but get shot down less too
We'll just have to see whether the cost effectiveness of fighter-bombers wins out over the pure ground attack stats of chonky CAS
soft panther
cas op irl
obsidian vault
Personally, I think its gonna be fun to design medium aircraft that have enough air defense to ignore fighters that try and get away with not having enough guns lol
solid gyro
Imma bust a nut for the plane designer cause it looks a lot cleaner.
And gave us players the ability to crash the solo/MP game with OP designs
I can't wait to create multi-purpose CAS and multi-purpose fighters
as in mounting rockets and bombs for CAS while destroying bombers and other fighters for the fighter
warm dagger
hopefully kamikazes will be worth using now
quartz bronze
And gave us players the ability to crash the solo/MP game with OP designs
I don't think it'll crash the game. The community will probably find the most optimal thing pretty quickly. Or at least things that are close to optimal. My guess is that it'll come down to making the most optimal fighter for dogfights and then dedicated bombers. Other multi purpose designs will probably have niche roles for other countries in certain areas but I don't think the meta will change much for major countries. Best fighter combined with best bomber possible.
solid gyro
I don't see the mention of Turboprop since it was first introduced in 1928 by design and 1940 by prototype and production in the Dev Diary, but I know Paradox is hiding it.
fast perch
Wonder what dev diaries we have left
Got at least 2 more for achievements and formables plus releasables
But whatever comes with reworking past trees, reworking already shown trees, Ethiopia balance of power and aars
Plus maybe a bag of tricks
soft panther
medals
wispy whale
Formables is gonna be a unique dev diary?
soft panther
they have to write a dev diary for medals
fast perch
I meant formables with releaseables
wispy whale
Also did they already show peace deals im out of the loop
fast perch
They did a first look of peace trieties as their first diary for BBA. We might get another
wispy whale
Oh can you send me a link?
wispy whale
Aight thanks
fast perch
Its pretty good lookin
quartz bronze
There's definitely gotta be another one going over peace deals in detail.
uncut pelican
The new interception mechanic and the new general stuff needs to be explained in a dev diary as well
shrewd marsh
I hope ethiopia wil be able to buy equatorial Guinea from franco in exchange for support in the civil war.
Then be able to «liberate» the at the time horrible country Liberia
fossil delta
Oh boy I can't wait to make CAS using a strat bomber airframe
quartz bronze
Oh boy I can't wait to make CAS using a strat bomber airframe
Well it did say some frames won't be able to do certain missions. Strats probably won't be able to do ground attacks.
topaz kettle
solid gyro
any ETA for the new DLC?
Probably by the end of this year early next year
The release date will probably be announced at pdx con
mortal thunder
devs what about making a design bureau akin to espionage so instead of spending 150pp for a toggle of 10% agility. u have a expansive military complex that u spend pp+commandpower+ mils to upgrade each design division. so u dont just get 10% armor or cas but u can select permanent buffs per situation as the war progress.
this would work better than the soviet desicion pp or a petagon 70 days NF
solid gyro
https://gyazo.com/6055e1977a6c729ae3728a3c8ae43f56
why do gay trans people exist, why not just be straight
🤦♂️
solid gyro
Walter White did nothing wrong
lunar finch
Fax
sharp oxide
why do gay trans people exist, why not just be straight
Tell me you don’t understand sexuality without telling me you don’t understand sexuality
Why not just be straight? My guy people haven’t been straight since the dawn of time
Lol
Sexuality is weird
Deal with it
solid gyro
Tell me you don’t understand sexuality without telling me you don’t understand s...
cringe
solid gyro
its genuinely easier just to not change anything
sharp oxide
Not wrong tho
sharp oxide
its genuinely easier just to not change anything
There’s no change cause this has already been here forever
I mean think about i
T
The Greeks
The Asian countries
Indingneous territories
Etc etc
solid gyro
as a greek i can deny
sharp oxide
They all had you know seperate forms of sexuality other than straight
The mythology of Ancient Greek text clearly disproves this
solid gyro
thats really not true, greece is a orthodox state and has been since the beginning.
solid gyro
The mythology of Ancient Greek text clearly disproves this
actual greeks dont even care about that stuff
sharp oxide
thats really not true, greece is a orthodox state and has been since the beginni...
Do you have any form of proof supporting your claim that Greece didn’t have appreciation of gay people in the past?
solid gyro
ive never read greek history
solid gyro
Do you have any form of proof supporting your claim that Greece didn’t have appr...
no but you dont have any proof to claim it was accepted
sharp oxide
no but you dont have any proof to claim it was accepted
I actually do
solid gyro
im not a homophobic
sharp oxide
I brought it up
sharp oxide
Multiple scriptures and texts of Greeks in the past making mythologies about homosexuality
And generally accepting it
sharp oxide
why are you so offended
I’m not
I’m just trying to teach ya guys this
Ik sometimes it isn’t malicious
solid gyro
Multiple scriptures and texts of Greeks in the past making mythologies about hom...
there is like millions
sharp oxide
And sometimes people don’t know
sharp oxide
there is like millions
Yes
solid gyro
no he wasnt
sharp oxide
no he wasnt
Yes he was Ganymede
solid gyro
he knocked up like 90 godesses
sharp oxide
Was one of his romantic partners
sharp oxide
he knocked up like 90 godesses
Oh sorry then Zeus was bi
He was in love with a lot of people
solid gyro
he is a disgrace
sharp oxide
Ganymede was one of them
solid gyro
this has nothing to do with what i said
sharp oxide
he is a disgrace
Zeus was a god doenst matter if he was a disgrace he is a Jack ass but needless to say religion matches the views people had back hen
solid gyro
why change when you have what you want
sharp oxide
why change when you have what you want
But it isn’t what you want?
If you don’t like something
You change it
solid gyro
well homosexual men yes
sharp oxide
That’s what people do
sharp oxide
Well they can
solid gyro
no
sharp oxide
Why can’t they?
sharp oxide
Actuslly you can make genitalia
solid gyro
aside from the normal teenage-adult
sharp oxide
It’s not set in stone
solid gyro
no you can not
sharp oxide
You can change genitalia
solid gyro
no you can not
sharp oxide
A change of private genitalia
solid gyro
no
solid gyro
you will never have the functions so it is just a prosthetic
sharp oxide
actuslly it isn’t
It’s made out of skin and other parts of your past genitalia
And it works fine
It’s not even robotic
solid gyro
would you like to take this to messages so its not censored
sharp oxide
would you like to take this to messages so its not censored
Sure
sharp oxide
🍿
sharp oxide
No
lunar finch
Why did you lose
sharp oxide
No
But I didn’t feel like engaging with them
I spent like 2 hours
And we were getting no where
So I decided
I don’t wanna do it
visual willow
Fella really spent half an hour with a troll huh
lunar finch
I want to see you take an L
lunar finch
@solid gyro screenshot??
solid gyro
yes
solid gyro
<@456226577798135808> screenshot??
i will add you
u have to add me
u have weird safety settings
solid gyro
I spent like 2 hours
it was like 10 minutes u were just spamming me with paragraphs while i was cooking
lunar finch
I added u
lunar finch
u have to add me
I added u
mortal thunder
there really should be german NF where both usa and germany get a 100% + 2year ahead on 8% research
fading ermine
Will we be able to make JET transports with the plane designer? I hope so.
With longer range, than we have now at best?
solid gyro
Will we be able to make JET transports with the plane designer? I hope so.
Transports are one of the fews that are not designed but work as before
fading ermine
Oh. That's, unfortunate.
What are the other ones that will still work the same way?
solid gyro
Pretty sure that's the only one. But I don't remember straight out of the gate without starting the game
Maybe rockets, not 100%
wet marten
Even scout planes can be modified?
solid gyro
You put a camera on the airframe
solid gyro
Transports are one of the fews that are not designed but work as before
dude i wanted to design a transport plane that fits 3k men in it lol
wet marten
Do we know if they’re reworking rockets at all?
soft panther
dude i wanted to design a transport plane that fits 3k men in it lol
lmao
putting cameras
😳
fading ermine
So, will we be able to spot navies with planes now? Will that make air naval strikes more effective, and naval strike forces?
soft panther
that looks like red flood type of thing
urban dagger
NEED USA AND USSR IN @MP3
\
unborn iron
I wanna know, With the New Plane Designers, Will all countries be able to do kamikazi?
open delta
ah Yes Tannu Tuvan Kamikazi
wet marten
Probably not.
unborn iron
That would suck tbh
To add a special Kamikazi Modification. That barely anyone can get
soft panther
tannu what strategic bombers
twilit mountain
ah Yes Tannu Tuvan Kamikazi
You’d fly one plane and your manpower would drop by half
Truly the most efficient strat
visual willow
To add a special Kamikazi Modification. That barely anyone can get
Wouldnt make sense if it WASNT there for the country that can 🤷♀️
hollow ridge
I wanna know, With the New Plane Designers, Will all countries be able to do kam...
No. It will still have to be unlocked by a Focus like its currently the case.
hollow ridge
So, will we be able to spot navies with planes now? Will that make air naval str...
Planes will assist Ships in their spotting, but will not spot on their own.
hollow ridge
Will we be able to make JET transports with the plane designer? I hope so.
Transport Planes will not be designable.
solid gyro
@hollow ridge cute pfp bro
hollow ridge
Would think planes could spot on their own. :/
Yeah but its for balance
hollow ridge
<@337984617951002624> cute pfp bro
Thanks u too
fading ermine
I get it.
solid gyro
Thanks u too
👀
fading ermine
At least spotting with aircraft will be much more efficient, probably
soft panther
what will the next dd be about
quartz bronze
Maybe the peace deal
errant herald
will we be able to target specific ports with the port strike thing
visual willow
Oh god they cost pp? This is gonna be hyper minmaxing isnt it instead of just funmy cosmetics
visual willow
Probably
Otherwise they wouldnt cost anything
Cause why would you ever spend 30pp on a cosmetic for 1 army/division
soft panther
I saw this file hidden inside hoi4
and saw all the medals
idk if its the all of it but like 30 something
If u can read korean
solar yacht
If u can read korean
why would you need korean when you can read here:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/announcement-hearts-of-iron-4-by-blood-alone.1530022/
"Divisional Commanders will now be the bread and butter of your future officer candidates. Grow their skills passively as they perform their duties in command of divisions, reward their actions in combat with country-unique medals, and see their persistent achievements follow them as they are promoted to higher positions over the course of a game."
silk garden
what? divisions will have their own commanders?
drowsy plank
From what I understand its mostly going to be a passive feature with the exception of the ability to give medals and have better candidates for promotions to generals
lilac cargo
wonder if u can lose generalmajors in an encircled unit
hot flame
Meh i dont like the new sistem. I guess the division groups will remain the same
patent grotto
When will the divisional comand update be launched?
lilac cargo
theres no dates given yet
patent grotto
K
Its not a big deal tbh
Only you can rename opearations…
They could improve the combat and fix buggs
silk garden
finally the fricking battleplanner wont be sending my units from leningrad down to crimea
quartz bronze
Battleplan names are gonna be pretty fun. Time for operation zerg rush to commence.
hot cove
I'm probably in the minority but I really dont like these changes
Its another mechanic I'm gona have to learn all over again
before it was just a click of a button or 2 and there's your generals
The WTT gave assigneable abilities but that wasnt a complete overhaul and was simple and intuitive to understand
this is neither simple nor does it appear intuitive
quartz bronze
I mean being able to control of how much your divisions spread out in a battle plan is nice. I always hated attacking Russia and suddenly not being able to push because my divisions we're like 1 for every 3 tiles spread out. It's a real pain to have to constantly adjust the length of your frontline so they don't keep spreading out.
clever summit
I like deez changes
Especially the divisional commander thing
u can now recruit Rommel historically… vgh..
quartz bronze
It'll also be nice to build up division commander XP and get something like a level 3 general instead of a level 1 with no stats.
visual willow
This all seems... rather decent to understand tbf
Though you can't "make commanders out of thin air" anymore, you kinda still can. Cause you will have wayyy more divisions then commanders so eh
Hopefully cohesion and battleplan names are gonna be free for those players.... though i guess they wont be
Maybe battleplan names
craggy sapphire
yeah I like those
the larp increases while the funny can also be expanded
cant wait for operation c ock and b all torture to commence
or the "clown front #1'
(any front either in southwestern europe or the middle east)
raven quarry
Loving the new RPing aspects that are coming. Though does anyone know how many of the new 3D models for aircraft are American? (I really want to see more variety for the USAF)
soft panther
I think its funner for MP
visual willow
or the "clown front #1'
I didnt even think of those lmfao that's hilarious
Best update ever
soft panther
whats next week's dd
errant herald
hopefully the default battle plan names arent trash
soft panther
prob historical
quartz bronze
whats next week's dd
I think it said they were going over peace deals next week
soft panther
thats boring
quartz bronze
I can't wait for the peace deals. Right now they aren't great
unkempt reef
Will attack plans be dlc only?
soft panther
prob
unkempt reef
damn
solid gyro
I'm probably in the minority but I really dont like these changes
Actually they're more quality if life/rp stuff, isn't too different cause you'll just promote the divisional commanders, and the medals aren't something that are too game changing they're just a nice addition
I will finally get to award something to the divisions I've brutally battered to get to my target
quartz bronze
Finally have a use for late game pp
soft panther
pp
visual willow
hopefully the default battle plan names arent trash
You can always make your own
visual willow
Actually they're more quality if life/rp stuff, isn't too different cause you'll...
If anything generals are now just free lol. And ypu can CHOOSE which one you want out of hundreds instead of a completely new one being rolled
Idk why they are saying it's something radical they gotta leaen again cause it's really not, the devdairy explains the basics which you need which is barely anything
sleek creek
new devdiary is concerning, i rarely do micromanagement
soft panther
Same
wet marten
I hope it doesn’t lag the game too much.
silk garden
people are gonna do full pp builds to max out medals
drowsy plank
... if you rarely do any micro managing how do you ever win in MP matches
Or even singleplayer as a anything other than the major Powers
solid gyro
If anything generals are now just free lol. And ypu can CHOOSE which one you wan...
No I think you still need command power to promote them, but they get buffs anyway
Tbh Idk why the majors are getting the portraits other than being Majors
visual willow
That's the reason lol
solid gyro
9 times out of ten you never need mew generals as a major
But like The Netherlands needs like the portraits
visual willow
new devdiary is concerning, i rarely do micromanagement
How so
solid gyro
Possible greece
visual willow
You can ignore all the stuff if you want, nothing will change then
solid gyro
new devdiary is concerning, i rarely do micromanagement
Microing is only for low cohesion
solid gyro
You can ignore all the stuff if you want, nothing will change then
Prob
visual willow
Except you can see which div commander you promote to a general lol
If anything it slightly removes RNG
drowsy plank
I mean the thing is that as say France or Italy you do need to get new generals late game, quite a few of them actually
Especially in mp
Since as either of those countries if you held your ground you'll usually have over 240 divisions
drowsy plank
9 times out of ten you never need mew generals as a major
Do you ever actually play majors in multiplayer? Most of them Will recruit at least a few new generals, if only to handle the hundreds of defensive and garrison divisions placed everywhere
My last game as Italy I had 430 divisions, and even then we had number shortages on some fronts
solid gyro
Do you ever actually play majors in multiplayer? Most of them Will recruit at le...
Only once
Got stomped in Africa as Italy
But destroyed the British navy
final oyster
Got stomped in Africa as Italy
Completely normal
solid gyro
anarchist ethiopia
anarchist ethiopia
solid gyro
Yes
cedar tinsel
Will i ever learn how to play this game?
fossil briar
Since as either of those countries if you held your ground you'll usually have o...
cries in no generals because Stalin purged everyone
hot cove
Will i ever learn how to play this game?
nope
solid gyro
Will i ever learn how to play this game?
Its so ez just follow these instructions and u will become pro in no time:
- Go outside and touch grass.
- Get a friend.
- Remember you actually have a family and visit them.
- Get a girlfriend.
- Get a job.
- Marry your girlfriend.
- Get a life.
- Become one with the Allah.
cedar tinsel
Its so ez just follow these instructions and u will become pro in no time:
1. Go...
It actually worked
solid gyro
Ikr
soft panther
quartz bronze
Its so ez just follow these instructions and u will become pro in no time:
1. Go...
I failed step 1.
solid gyro
Well then u can never get gud
solid gyro
Well then u can never get gud
yo
solid gyro
unclear instructions, i have multiple life sentences now
lofty kelp
Its so ez just follow these instructions and u will become pro in no time:
1. Go...
g*rlfriend
solid gyro
cring
crimson sail
Did PDX just...FORGET that carriers exist when making the plane designer? There was NOTHING in that dev diary or shown in the plane designer itself that had anything to do with carrier planes. What, can I just transfer my Spitfires to carriers at will? No arrester gear, no folding wings, no thrust requirement, nothing?
solid gyro
g*rlfriend
bruh whyd u have to swear? ||JK||
lofty kelp
lol
lunar folio
Its so ez just follow these instructions and u will become pro in no time:
1. Go...
Misread instructions: Accidentally got a boyfriend
hollow ridge
I was gonna say the same
unborn iron
Wish it was that easy
solid gyro
Did PDX just...FORGET that carriers exist when making the plane designer? There ...
They'll probably talk about that later, I'm pretty sure that they're still kinda working it out
Bba is still very WIP
solid gyro
I should probably make a mod of getting a life
visual willow
Last focus just closes the game lol
solid gyro
Last focus just closes the game lol
Thats right if u have a life why ruin it by doing Barbarosa 24/7
silk garden
I should probably make a mod of getting a life
i think there is alrdy one
cedar flame
I like the new way they are changing commanders I can't wait to see that live
quartz bronze
It's pretty great. Adds good flavor while also having a decent sized game impact.
dusty island
Omg now we can name battleplans! Forget the nordics focus trees let's give Switzerland and Ethiopia the best focus tree we could ever think of! In fact they had major roles in WW2 like....uhh.....
Well at least we'll get the named battleplans I guess.
soft panther
just be thankful they are adding those
I prefer ethiopia and swiss then south American focus trees
idk why but I feel like nations near Europe has more potentials
and its funner
fossil briar
I prefer ethiopia and swiss then south American focus trees
You mean you don't want to fight communist civil wars? Class enemy of the proletariat detected.
lofty vector
This is so old
quartz bronze
Omg now we can name battleplans! Forget the nordics focus trees let's give Switz...
I mean Ethiopia goes with Italy focus perfectly. Swiss tree is kinda thrown in there too but it's kinda relevant since it's next to Italy. The Nordics simply wouldn't fit in with the Italy DLC.
solid gyro
they should've reworked Germany's tree lol
unless they're planning to do a "Pan-German" focus for Nordics + Germans
wet marten
Germany’s tree is probably the tree that need the least reworking. Besides maybe the us or uk.
solid gyro
Germany’s tree is probably the tree that need the least reworking. Besides maybe...
they do need a nerf due to getting a shitton of divisions ¯_(ツ)_/¯
like end game germany = too op to even get through them
ngl, it'll be cooler to see if they get a swedish trade tree where they're in a secret alliance
mild ledge
soft panther
Germany’s tree is probably the tree that need the least reworking. Besides maybe...
Japan
wet marten
We are just forgetting about the other ideological paths?
soft panther
Japan needs a rework
visual willow
Germany’s tree is probably the tree that need the least reworking. Besides maybe...
Nahhh, they are probably the most played nation in hoo4 they deserve a tree almost as big and varied as the soviets.
They need it less then upper baltics and the commenwealth though, but germany should still be reworked
wet marten
They have a perfectly fine tree with powerful branches all around. The democratic tree should be debugged, but other than that there is no reason for them to rework it.
It has a really good power level, and I don’t think it’s necessary for a country to have large trees. It makes it difficult to balance in my opinion.
And debug.
visual willow
Yes there is, they should have a big varied focus tree rn there really only is kaiserreich if you want to do something different then nazi
They need it less the the other wtt trees and such but yeah, should get a rework eventually
Poland has a wayyy more varried tree and is right next to them too lol
wet marten
The democratic tree is really strong. Especially if you grab total mobilization in the civil war. The fact your democratic means you can guarantee into a defensive war.
I don’t think them getting more paths is bad. But adding more focuses to current paths would mostly be a negative.
visual willow
Well yeah, they need a rework not just 17 focuses added on
wet marten
Usually reworks are just tons of additional focuses.
Which pivots hoi4 into super late game.
Or makes you France.
wet marten
I think the trees have been hit or miss after man the guns.
visual willow
No step back has been all hits for me
And bulgaria
And germany rework wont happen after another like 2-3 rework packs at the least so they would have even more experience making trees by then
silk garden
oh good, a germany nerf
wet marten
Turkey was a miss for the most part. I think the Soviet tree was way too big. The amount of bugs in the civil war, and right opposition just make it really mediocre.
silk garden
yea, ive touched turkey once and quit in 37, its a bit much
bftb was rly annoying with the factions
visual willow
Tbf bugs literally arent intentional, but pdx does refuse to fix them. And i like the variance in the soviet tree with atuff you can do, even if you keep stalin. You should definitely be able to coup stalin better though via alt-commie, and isk much about the cw stuff mishaps really
wet marten
I do agree with Bulgaria being decent. Personally I only thought Greece was the good one.
silk garden
the whole idea of a soviet civil war is preposterous
visual willow
yea, ive touched turkey once and quit in 37, its a bit much
Turkey's tree is a complete misstep as they took it thw wrong way. Trees should be wide with options if they are big, not giant straight lines with nearly no choice
silk garden
nobody wouldve wanted a civil war in the soviet union
wet marten
It’s not that the bugs are intentional it’s that paradox proceeds to make large trees knowing that they are more common that way. Then as you say not caring to fix them.
visual willow
CW all the way in siberia is urghh, you shouldve been able to expand faster to the urals
silk garden
it already took them 15 years to get the country half-functional after the devastating rcw, which nutjob would want another one
even trotsky wouldnt have wanted another civil war
visual willow
it already took them 15 years to get the country half-functional after the devas...
The one that wants back the tsar for gameplay reasons idk alt-hist doesnt make sense to begin with 
silk garden
cuz then the nazis wouldve just had to clean up the mess
visual willow
Idk why couping shouldnt be the main option for alt-commie
silk garden
The one that wants back the tsar for gameplay reasons idk alt-hist doesnt make s...
yea, maybe the far-right wouldve wanted another civil war to ally the germans ig
silk garden
Idk why couping shouldnt be the main option for alt-commie
and when you do do the coup paranoia just skyrockets and its a big fricking handicap
visual willow
wait after you couped stalin there still is paranoia???
wet marten
Yeah.
visual willow
Ok nvm i see now why soviet tree is mediocre at best then again
silk garden
the two reasons youd want to go alt-hist is epic advisors and epic world revolution gaming, coup skyrockets paranoia so much you have to sacrifice all your advisors
silk garden
beria
wet marten
Yeah it’s only for the advisors.
It’s a botched job.
They really only put effort into the tsar and Stalin tree.
visual willow
The soviet tree really only needs a few tweaks imo but it sucks that pdx doesnt care about the players after they bought the dlc lol
silk garden
the only viable way to go alt-hist soviet is to cheese the cw
cuz buildup otherwise takes till late 38-39, then civil war for a year, and only then does the game really start
wet marten
Yeah for the tsars. Right opposition is still trash.
wet marten
Left opposition is fun.
silk garden
epic generals, epic advisors, plus you exile them so they cant get purged
and then you do le world revolution
visual willow
Tbf idk even anything interesting history wise with the right to begin with so idk what more stuff they could do with that
wet marten
It’s pretty strong considering you get rid of politicized military fast.
silk garden
the right opposition was basically "noooo we want the new economic policy, socialism in the city capitalism in the village"
wet marten
Tbf idk even anything interesting history wise with the right to begin with so i...
It’s just the bugs that make right opposition so annoying.
silk garden
foreign policy-wise they invented stalins foreign policy
wet marten
It’s just all economy which would be fun if it wasn’t nerfed so hard with the five year plan.
silk garden
oh dont get me started on the fyp
"why yes, have another 5% consumer goods to help your economy bleed out inside faster"
wet marten
It’s the most annoying thing. I really hate how paradox tells me that you can choose your path. Then proceeds to show how the five year plan will screw me if I don’t progress it.
silk garden
germany gets 12 civs and 6 mils from 3 foci, soviet gets +5% cg, 3 civs and 2 mils or smth like that from 3 foci
wet marten
Like I said. A botched job.
silk garden
entire fyp tree gets you less than those 3 german foci
soft panther
plsj apan rework
visual willow
Asian actual alt-hist when
soft panther
people should stop whining and crying about reworking the barely relevant or not relevant ww2 countries
visual willow
Well they are always atleast spmewhat relevant to the "main" reworked country
There isnt any dlc that had like completely random countries that did jackall
soft panther
nah bro i feel like the greyline for relevant nation is sweden or maybe brazil
visual willow
Ethiopia makes completely sense with italy, and switzerland too cause border and they didnt want to do austria yet
soft panther
swiss is iconic so it makes sense
and swiss also had lots of interactions with both the allies and the axis
not sure why belgium wasnt reworked with the past dlcs
cuz i feel like they fought better than france at some point
visual willow
nah bro i feel like the greyline for relevant nation is sweden or maybe brazil
Sweden would make sense cause it's right next to a main power, in europe. And it borders 3 nations where stuff happened in ww2. Plus it also had to balance doing stuff with the axis and allies
soft panther
imo nations near germany and europe is relevant
they got lots of potentials whatsoever
visual willow
Sweden, together with the other nordic countries, makes complete sense. Finland desperately needs a tree after all
soft panther
finland -> norway -> sweden
visual willow
not sure why belgium wasnt reworked with the past dlcs
Tbf on which one would they do it. And does belgium really have enough stuff to make a tree for? Feel like it would just be a lesser netherlands tree
soft panther
norway, because they were attacked by germany
soft panther
Tbf on which one would they do it. And does belgium really have enough stuff to ...
nah
i think belgium has some potentials
even if they don't, why not??
they were directly part of ww2
visual willow
Tbf somethong like what rt56 does would be alright, a slightly modified basic tree
soft panther
yeah
visual willow
And the base tree kinda needs a touch uo after 6 years lol
soft panther
its super dull
but honestly if brazil gets a focus tree, it would be super unfair
they will likely be super strong
silk garden
the way these new dlcs have been looking prolly not
at least till like 43 theyd be crap
soft panther
in the beginning they'd start with huge penalties
but at the end
they would be taking the usa
visual willow
Brazil ehhh really doesnt need a tree
soft panther
after bba and the nordic dlc
visual willow
Unless they do some stuff like Canada-Usa-Brazil we will get other southern america nations with trees which is ehhhh.... and actually if those nations dont get trees then it's still boring as brazil cause your neighbours do nothing
soft panther
i dont see any other nations that particularly needs a rework
visual willow
after bba and the nordic dlc
Then they should rework older trees like DoD and TFV
soft panther
eh austria
visual willow
eh austria
Austria has more potentional then ethiopia
visual willow
And they can cooporate with germany too, plus germany alt-hist
soft panther
ethiopia, yes they are surrounded by france and uk
but im pretty sure uk and france barely gives a bull about ethiopia especially in an mp game
but austria
they are directly facing the german border
one wrong movement, then u are likely gone within weeks
visual willow
Then dont make a wrong movement
soft panther
and also, i udnerstand that works in sp games
visual willow
You literally just proposed a belgium tree
soft panther
but mp games im like 99% sure germany wont be happy keeping austria alive
just saying
visual willow
but mp games im like 99% sure germany wont be happy keeping austria alive
Althist, chzechoslovakia also has a tree after all
soft panther
You literally just proposed a belgium tree
well yeah, because u can get proteected by one of the strongest factions in-game
unlike austria
if germany doesnt like u, stick with the allies
if england doenst like u, stick with the axis
but austria come on
visual willow
well yeah, because u can get proteected by one of the strongest factions in-game
Belgium literally always gets left behind to protect the french border instead lol, noone in MP protects belgium
visual willow
Sure in MP it wont be used but neither are the warlords too then
soft panther
Belgium literally always gets left behind to protect the french border instead l...
thats true
but atleast they have some potentials to live, and contribute
and ive seen some cases where the allies actually send supplies to protect belgium.
visual willow
not much of a choice
Chzechoslovakia in the north, hungary in the east, yugoslavkia in the south, switzerland in the west
soft panther
and now, i understand that france and uk will mostly use them for "strategic" purposes,
but im just saying they have some chances yk
visual willow
And again, not every game has to be fully historical. There is a reason althist trees exist
Austria would be just alt hist
soft panther
Chzechoslovakia in the north, hungary in the east, yugoslavkia in the south, swi...
well, atelast in special cases poland can help u
but austria whos gonna help u?
swiss? lol biggest joke ive heard
visual willow
And again, you can cooporate with the germans instead, or the germans go althist
visual willow
And austria will be strong
soft panther
and just to recap, germany is probably the reason that makes hoi4 fun
idk why but its just my opinion
visual willow
Ah yes, while playing as japan i do love germany which makes it fun
visual willow
If you're a minor with althist you're doing your own thing 🤷♀️
visual willow
Not everything has to be in the perspective of historical ultra meta MP
soft panther
not even mp
in sp some majors demand territories
and it usually impacts ur nation for quite awhiel
visual willow
Cause on that case just remove poland tree, remove germany kaiserreich path, remove any sort of choice and just make every single focus tree a straight path and you can NEVER go off the path pdx has made for you
visual willow
in sp some majors demand territories
Yes, and most minors can either deal with it, or can do stuff eith the focus tree so that they can resist
Chzechoslovakia can make a faction, romenia can go commie and i'm pretty sure make sure the soviets dont take land? Poland is already stronk ane can resist germany or give them danzig and just kill the soviets in the meantime
visual willow
Why wouldnt austria be able to
soft panther
idk just too small
visual willow
Why shouldnt austria be able to do austria-hungary and be strong enough, why can't they make the rome pact which turns italy against germany, why can't they cooporate with a german empire, which wont anschluss, to remake austria-hungary?
Ethiopia has even less chance for it to get a tree ane yet it gets one, why shouldnt austria be able to get one?