off-topic

[analog roost]

why is tibet chilling-

[feral mason]

thank you

God bless you

[meager patrol]

Fake china

[turbid pilot]

mac arthur

they have a guarantee

[amber crest]

@analog roost @turbid pilot does anyone know which Byzantine emperor this is

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

its gonna become roc later

once i finish achievements

[analog roost]

sadge

[lament timber]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-mlp-fim-mlpfim-gif-5079005542710523589

[turbid pilot]

i will never end a game as prc

https://tenor.com/view/roc-gif-25678127

my people will be free

[feral mason]

I love hoi4 but people here have no common sense

[analog roost]

surely not the last one

[amber crest]

Andrionicus III Palaiologos

[turbid pilot]

where r u from

[analog roost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/300-gerard-butler-this-is-sparta-3o7TKGMslz2YfhkuwU

[amber crest]

one of the last good ones

[amber crest]

I remember this meme from my first days on the internet

[meager patrol]

You are the best example

[feral mason]

Of a God

[turbid pilot]

answer rq

wru from

[feral mason]

I agree I am the best example of a God over you mortals

[meager patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[turbid pilot]

this like determines so much

[feral mason]

why

[turbid pilot]

if your just another LA commie ima crash out

[turbid pilot]

there has been so many

[feral mason]

Oh no

[turbid pilot]

rich ass people irl larping communism

actually pmo

[amber crest]

I would love it if LA got nuked

And I’m American

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-clap-happy-yehey-gif-7685953

[feral mason]

these people 💀

[turbid pilot]

your father makes more than the average american by 10x go use that money make your own commune

[feral mason]

who me?

No he dont

[turbid pilot]

to all the rich ass people larping communism

[feral mason]

why are you speaking to me

[turbid pilot]

it wasnt replied to you and this chat is public

[feral mason]

if I was rich I would of bought the dlcs for hoi4

[turbid pilot]

i am 😄

[amber crest]

I am too

[feral mason]

I hate broke people that larp as a capitalist

[turbid pilot]

i benefit from meritocracy and capitalism alot

[amber crest]

Same

[feral mason]

cough cough @meager patrol

[feral mason]

lies

We all benefit from it

[turbid pilot]

the middle class people in my country make 2x the european middle income

[feral mason]

what bro

wheere the hell

are you from

[turbid pilot]

wait mb

i make 4x

the middle class makes 2x

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/singapore-flag-singapore-neo-flag-gif-25415668

[feral mason]

Are you from India?

oh

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-man-covering-mouth-lol-in-tears-gif-18016812431523599211

[feral mason]

I hate that nation

[turbid pilot]

india 4x european middle wage

insane

[feral mason]

No

Indians make like

[turbid pilot]

ok so your indian?

[feral mason]

No

[turbid pilot]

ive met indians who r really pro communism wouldnt be crazy

[meager patrol]

I hate you too budy

[feral mason]

I hate you more lil bro

[turbid pilot]

atleast they live in conditions that make it seem good

[feral mason]

ssame

[turbid pilot]

stupid LA millionaires

[feral mason]

I met a indian girl that likes socialism

I am against immigration but

[turbid pilot]

ok so you are indian or around indian people

[feral mason]

atleast she supports the right thing

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-schizo-frank-heffley-i-am-not-crazy-door-gif-778448550065894118

[feral mason]

bro I met 1 indian girl

[turbid pilot]

whats its name

cause i didnt use the right flag

[feral mason]

i also met a lot of people from tajikistan

[turbid pilot]

so your a turk or german

most common place tajiks go

[feral mason]

no bro

[analog roost]

you're* 🤓

[feral mason]

they bring drugs into europe

[turbid pilot]

just say it bruh

just say where ur from

[analog roost]

bruh

[turbid pilot]

why u so scared

[feral mason]

its true

I am not scared

of you bro

You are a twink

is this good

[meager patrol]

#hoi4-general

[feral mason]

they have 139 troops for every 24 I have

[analog roost]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mods-hairline-push-back-5GBPjriAaFTP0QKzhp

[turbid pilot]

ok sure

just say

where ur from

must be balkan where else are twinks 184 81kg and do wrestling sports

[feral mason]

bro no

[meager patrol]

You think he is 81kg?

That light?

[feral mason]

stop disrespecting nations bro

[turbid pilot]

he called me a twink

thats my stats

also wym 81kg light

[feral mason]

you weigh like 50kg with him

[turbid pilot]

i feel thats like the proper weight

[feral mason]

combined

both of you are 50kg

😂

[analog roost]

chat going wild 💔 ngl

[turbid pilot]

ok bro just say where ur from

quit avoiding man

this man is balkan for sure

[feral mason]

anyways you are funny we talk later

[turbid pilot]

1 indian so not uk

he didnt say no germany

[analog roost]

the tag? 👀

[feral mason]

means nothing

[turbid pilot]

too much larpers

ive seen indians pretend to be russian on cs

[analog roost]

aye bud, just say it at this point

[turbid pilot]

brother just saying suka blyat with russian name and thinks we wont notice his indian accent and indian friend list

[analog roost]

cursed

[turbid pilot]

too much man

[royal mantle]

nah, you wont

[turbid pilot]

indonesians also larp but

[analog roost]

got muted

[turbid pilot]

their obvious

[analog roost]

gg

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

chak popped up

[lament timber]

So fire

Fire thing to say before banning

[turbid pilot]

can we do smt about the cs larping problem

[lament timber]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[turbid pilot]

why do people keep larping on cs

i respect the chinese mainland players they dont larp

[amber crest]

I get back and see this

[night cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/fernand-fcdk-thats-not-the-spirit-man-fc-de-kampioenen-fernand-costermans-gif-19257014

[lament timber]

That was such a fire response before banning someone fr fr

[amber crest]

100%

[turbid pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/james-may-gun-top-gear-gif-2891052999326662157

[stiff agate]

Yep

[umbral ingot]

I love seeing this when I reopen chat

[frail fable]

[stiff agate]

Heya big sister

[stiff agate]

Part 8 is peak

[amber crest]

Hey Austro you missed a Nazbol

[vocal fiber]

Did he get banned?

[turbid pilot]

jojo is peak

[vocal fiber]

Not Chak, the other one

[kindred wraith]

Nah, brother is playing Total War in 2026.

[amber crest]

I’m playing Roar of Conquest mod for Medivial 2

[kindred wraith]

Still Total War.

[amber crest]

Is that bad?

[kindred wraith]

It's a joke.
I just posted a screenshot here of me playing Napoleon Total War.

[amber crest]

Sorry I’ve just got out of a poorly planned zoom meeting

@umbral ingot thoughts on Charlie being promoted because captain Daryl “Ironsights” Siegfried gets killed in the AU even though everyone thought he was going to survive

[umbral ingot]

Oh

[umbral ingot]

Nice plot twist ig

[amber crest]

He dies similar to Sgt Sullivan in call of duty world at war

Anyways I’m gonna reconquer Anatolia

[lament timber]

Cod WaW mentioned

Peak

Tank Dempsey my beloved

[amber crest]

Goated character

He shares the exact same model as Pvt Polonsky from the campaign

[lament timber]

Yep

[vocal fiber]

Duck

🦆

[turbid pilot]

brother what this crosshair

[zinc island]

Fun fact

The discord age verification is actually used to create profiles of the people who have to verify and those are used to track them

[worldly rose]

That sounds like misinformation

[stiff agate]

Nope

Dc doesnt

The company that dc uses does!

But dc is equaly as guilty in my eyes

[amber crest]

About to launch a Dday at Smyrna as the Byzantines

[meager patrol]

Hi mariiii

[worldly rose]

Hello my lady

[meager patrol]

How are you snugglebug?

[meager patrol]

😔

[amber crest]

Conquered Western Anatolia from the Ottomans now to push deeper into the area

[worldly rose]

Was taking a walk

[turbid pilot]

finally top frag without shit team

finally a good game

[stiff agate]

U know what u can do

Kidnap him and prevent him from taking a walk soo hell newer ignore u again

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-girl-smile-smug-gif-8645837818159986657

[meager patrol]

Grass time

I wish i had it

[meager patrol]

Shut up

stab

[stiff agate]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-tale-girl-anime-giggle-gif-15916218

[worldly rose]

Yandere moment

[stiff agate]

im trieng to turn everyone in to a yandere"

[turbid pilot]

enemy strted to cheat

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[meager patrol]

But im Not turning into one

[west hazel]

hey which mod is this ? R56 ?

[turbid pilot]

1 whole year ago 😭

and yes

r56

[west hazel]

thanks bro

[amber crest]

Gonna see if I can assemble 500 pistol magazines today for work

[umbral ingot]

Italy is no more

Austria reigns supreme

the reason I kept the small puppet of Italy in Napples was to make sure I get their navy

after I annex them

cause I didn't have enough points to take their full navy

[worldly rose]

Cue Radetzki March (actually written when the Austrian's beat the Italians)

[umbral ingot]

Yeaaaah

I know :3

[worldly rose]

[umbral ingot]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=GGDctQXozoo&si=Q6OzhwBvA6QSUw3A

[worldly rose]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/622322275483385867.webp?size=160&animated=true

I know the lyrics by heart

[meager patrol]

finaly

after 10 tries

[worldly rose]

💀

[meager patrol]

i finaly beaten the german civil war

[worldly rose]

Flowi youre not very good at the game if the German civil war of all things is hard

[meager patrol]

yeah

but i have beaten the soviet union

one time

[frail fable]

🥀 💔

[serene nest]

Come out

[echo jolt]

im coming

[serene nest]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-meme-tom-and-jerry-meme-jerry-points-get-a-load-of-this-guy-this-guy-gif-11384860625931393733

[serene nest]

Hello coming I'm Oliver

[echo jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193317044809109606/1474177067842015384/0Qhvv0A.gif

[meager patrol]

atleast i have you now

[echo jolt]

all of these paths and you play german empire

[worldly rose]

Unless I died defending het vaderland 🇳🇱

[meager patrol]

no

one panzer division speed up on to amsterdam and you capitulated

[worldly rose]

[meager patrol]

and i told my army not to kill you

:3

[meager patrol]

let me play what i want

[amber crest]

I have reconquered Abydos and Syrmna as Byzantium next stops Baris (modern Isparta) Nicaea, Sinope and Trebizond

[hasty estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/head-pat-suzuran-headpat-arknights-gif-20241685

ur doing great OwO

[molten topaz]

Finaly dota content

[meager patrol]

ehhmmm

no

[hasty estuary]

😮

sending support hugs and headpats

[turbid pilot]

premier is hell

[royal bone]

And I say who did I forgot
Ramadan karem bro

[turbid pilot]

we tied

fk

[meager patrol]

Thank you

[hasty estuary]

if ya ever need help , i can help :3

[meager patrol]

I mean

The war isnt going too great rn

[umbral ingot]

Day 248 of posting Teto every day in off-topic 🩷

[drowsy trellis]

Hello femboys

[amber crest]

I read about this

[worldly rose]

Where??

[zinc island]

Weakest German Mercenary:

[amber crest]

https://tenor.com/view/downfall-steiner-mein-fuhrer-steiner-gif-24733130

[meager patrol]

@hasty estuary
I naval invaded

And won

[hasty estuary]

yay well done

[zinc island]

Steiner did counterattack
Just not in Berlin :3

[drowsy trellis]

Everybody is femboy

[zinc island]

Except everybody that isn't

[amber crest]

My Fuhrer, Steiner…
Steiner became a mercenary

[zinc island]

Omg

[worldly rose]

Nu uh

[amber crest]

He will not be leading our counter attack

[zinc island]

It's spelled "Führer" or "Fuehrer"

[vocal fiber]

No I'm not

[amber crest]

I’m not either

[worldly rose]

I'm not either

[umbral ingot]

Haii :3

[umbral ingot]

Ahem

[worldly rose]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[umbral ingot]

Marjin doesn't think I am a femboy confirmed

😔

[worldly rose]

I do :3 I was just that surprised /s

[umbral ingot]

Great save

[worldly rose]

Thanks

[umbral ingot]

Also is that a royal name I see?

[worldly rose]

Mhm I finally thought of one

[umbral ingot]

I like to know I started a trend in here

[worldly rose]

Flowi suggested making it king but I like this one better

[umbral ingot]

"@ Queen Flowi" yeah I think I know why

[umbral ingot]

Cause in reality it started with me and from there Flowi made one for herself and from there everyone else made their own versions and now off-topic is a court of royals

[meager patrol]

kaiser whilhelm the second died

😭

[umbral ingot]

Nooo

Sometimes he lives past 1942

[meager patrol]

this makes me sad

[umbral ingot]

In my games

[meager patrol]

lucky

[umbral ingot]

But its rare

And probably a bug

LOL

[worldly rose]

It might be the death event has a random time to happen

[umbral ingot]

Now you got the democratic emperor Wilhelm III

[umbral ingot]

Yeah but sometimes it just fails to launch

[worldly rose]

Peculiar

Ataturk used to be immortal in some paths, until I relieved him of his mortal coil while working on NCNS

[meager patrol]

but he stinks

[umbral ingot]

I once saw a playtrough of Kalterkrieg

Aka kaiserreich cold war if Germany wins ww2 also and enters a cold war with the entente

[worldly rose]

If I remember correctly Wilhelm III is quite pacifist o a bit silly for world conquests?

[umbral ingot]

Where if you play as Germany

I dont know which emperor it was, either Wilhelm III or someone else

But after the first one dies

You literally cannot avoid liberalizing

So it was very funny

To watch someone complain about it

[umbral ingot]

Because the next emperor is very liberal compared to the ones before him

And enforces democratization

If you didn't do it yet

[worldly rose]

I think thats III

[umbral ingot]

Ofc Kalterkrieg isint really liked by some people because it has the "nothing ever happens" trope

But be for real, its a cold war mod

Ofcourse nothing ever happens

[worldly rose]

cold war is just tricky to make in HOI IV

[umbral ingot]

Exactly because

Its cold

Unironically thats the point

Usually hoi4 is all about war

And if you make it a political simulator like the cold war without actual great power conflict

It will be very different

[worldly rose]

itd make more sense for cold war to have less ticks

Have had this discussion before in this server, probably like 4 ticks per day

[latent heath]

yes, he went down the non aligned path

[latent heath]

makes sense. Youd probably have to make the specific wars way more intresting

which is really hard I think

[vocal fiber]

Victoria is better

[umbral ingot]

Which Victoria

Be more specific lol

[vocal fiber]

Viktoria Luise Adelheid Mathilde Charlotte

Daughter of Kaiser Wilhelm II

[amber crest]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-emily-fnaf-fnaf-2-fnaf-memes-henry-emily-daughter-gif-16337181844094484912

Charlotte mentioned

[vocal fiber]

Chak if you see this (I don't think you will)
I'm a the restaurant I told you some time ago

[amber crest]

I have to peace out Aragon because it’s werid being at war with a nation on the other side of Mediterranean

Also several of the Aragonese units in Athens were moorish mercenaries

[latent heath]

fnaf fan?

also I dont think he meant that charlotte...

[amber crest]

Yes made this goofy mod too

[amber crest]

Ik I was joking

[latent heath]

...what

[amber crest]

Emilyian dynasty for the Byzantine Empire

[latent heath]

ahh

why isnt matpat williams wife?

[amber crest]

She died of old age after she pulled a Belisarius

[amber crest]

Hardware limitations

[latent heath]

damn it

thats the most important part

[amber crest]

William and Henry died of old age in my campaign

[marsh ether]

what's hoi4?

[latent heath]

have you never played it?

never mind

[marsh ether]

never heard of it

[latent heath]

1.4 k hours in hoi4..

youre crazy

[marsh ether]

well

I was crazy once

[latent heath]

WHY DO YOU HAVE 10 HOURS ON 5D CHESS

[latent heath]

you still are apparently

[marsh ether]

oh yeah I need to update that thing

I started playing rimworld

[marsh ether]

I haven't logged on hoi4 since december 30

[latent heath]

not that long ago

[amber crest]

Been playing a lot of Medivial 2 and Helldivers 2 lately

[marsh ether]

I forced my best friend to play it

He didn't really like it tho

[amber crest]

Don’t think I’ve played since January

[marsh ether]

he really loves crusader kings 3

[latent heath]

same. He played 1 hour with me, then never played it again

[marsh ether]

I have a friend who keeps telling me to buy helldivers

[marsh ether]

they don't know ball

[marsh ether]

also please never ever play that game

it gave me a headache

but like

a real headache

[latent heath]

I wont

trust me

my brain isnt big enough for that

[amber crest]

You should and total war Medivial 2 for the mods as well

[meager patrol]

i didnt get annaxed

:D

[marsh ether]

I finally found it

I played this game with a friend

[latent heath]

WHAT

[marsh ether]

the game is ok for some time

but after you open a 3rd timeline it gets questionable

[latent heath]

@vale valley Go Österreich! Keep bashing the Facists!

[amber crest]

<@&846894118219022336>

[meager patrol]

[worldly rose]

@meager patrol you proof, I ban?

🤝

[meager patrol]

Alright

But the next time i ban

[drowsy trellis]

aww :3

[vocal fiber]

Oh

What have I missed?

[drowsy trellis]

baaaaaaaaan

?

[umbral ingot]

[worldly rose]

how was everyone's day

[amber crest]

Good until I got a cold

[worldly rose]

😔

Im hugging a space heater rn, electricity bill will be atrocious

[meager patrol]

I have a headache

[worldly rose]

Oh no, how come?

🫂

[meager patrol]

you can hug me for heat

[meager patrol]

Idk

But tommorow im going to the doctor

[worldly rose]

Good luck

[vocal fiber]

I got completely ignored

[meager patrol]

Yes

[vocal fiber]

I was just having dinner with my grandpa 🥺

[worldly rose]

📝 American

[marsh ether]

We need a statistic on hoi4 players

how many of them have a girlfriend

[vocal fiber]

In the restaurant I told Chak I would take him to

It's a waste of money

I can count them with my fingers

[meager patrol]

I have to be excluded

[marsh ether]

I don't think the percentage is very high

probably not

well what else would be interesting is their political stance

[meager patrol]

00000000.1% have a gf

[marsh ether]

well

the game does have a reputation for having people with questionable political beliefs

[vocal fiber]

Well, you had bf, very shortly, but had

[umbral ingot]

It is low when a high percentage isint even interested in women

[meager patrol]

He said gf

Not bf

[marsh ether]

hoi4 is better than gf and bf

[marsh ether]

because most hoi4 players are men

but we can say partner instead

[vocal fiber]

I don't care about gender, I care about the person itself

It's better

[marsh ether]

?

So you mean partner right

[marsh ether]

have you ever built the super heavy land cruiser in a hoi4 game?

[umbral ingot]

Now here as someone who is trying desperately to make someone date me, yes I agree hoi4 is better and reliable at all times

[marsh ether]

hoi4 will always be yours

[meager patrol]

And like you said

Im married to @worldly rose

[worldly rose]

You are?

[umbral ingot]

Exactly

[meager patrol]

We are

[marsh ether]

is hoi4 a nice valentine?

[worldly rose]

I wasnt at the wedding then

Luxemburgh co-op is as romantic as it gets

[frail fable]

[marsh ether]

I did in multiplayer and built medium tank divs

[meager patrol]

Wrong one

[marsh ether]

It broke through like 20 div sacks

[vocal fiber]

I'm not only referring with bf or gf, also friends

[umbral ingot]

This is probably the funniest one liner I ever heard from this rom com

[meager patrol]

Must be your dementia again

Smh

[marsh ether]

Ah ok thansk for clarifying

[marsh ether]

what mental diseases do hoi4 players suffer with?

[worldly rose]

Flowi is starting to sound like she's gonna kill me for the money any moment

She gonna inherit my 5000 HOI IV hour Steam account to claim she the best at HOI

[vocal fiber]

I'll compose a song or a poem in your honour

[meager patrol]

Socialism, fashism and shritzoprania

[vocal fiber]

I have written 15 poems and 2 songs already

[marsh ether]

have any of you ever like played as facist USA and destroyed china

[meager patrol]

It may be the other way around

[marsh ether]

I had 5 mil casualties and china had 50 million

[worldly rose]

Its kind of 😨 that being racist to the Chinese minority is the strongest political focus for the USA

[marsh ether]

well chinese united front

[meager patrol]

I am already the best a hoi 4

(i naval invaded belgium)

[marsh ether]

what path is better for USA the silvershirts or communists?

[umbral ingot]

hey Marjin

rule 2

:3

but yeah I do agree

[vocal fiber]

Maybe Silvershirts
Because you can also get Japan very early

[worldly rose]

Its not even controversial, it literally says thats what it does xD

[marsh ether]

it's really long tho

[umbral ingot]

but modern politics...

[vocal fiber]

Communist too

[marsh ether]

fair

but communists get buffs during civ war

they have an advantage

in general

[vocal fiber]

Second american civil war is very long

[marsh ether]

Not as long as russian

[umbral ingot]

just like the kaiserreich one

[marsh ether]

if you play as like imperialists

[vocal fiber]

I did it in 1938, and win

[umbral ingot]

no if you play as any path thats not the whites and go in the north

[vocal fiber]

Pretty fun

[umbral ingot]

the ai will be stuck in a endless civil war

it has been tested

every time that happens

and it messes up with a lot of things

[marsh ether]

The fastest way for civ war is to do leftists and go to odessa

[umbral ingot]

thats the best path

[marsh ether]

and just convert all divs to one AA divs

[umbral ingot]

its probably the intended path for the leftists

[marsh ether]

How to win spanish civil war

I keep trying to do an anarchist run

and fail civ war

[umbral ingot]

rush at the beggining

because there are many gaps at the beggining

[vocal fiber]

Tip, make all your divisions artillery
And also rise world tension to send to Spain all your equipment before civil war starts
When it starts, get the equipment you send to Spain and spam horses

[marsh ether]

it's kinda hard because you start as spanish republic and break off like at least 3 months later

[umbral ingot]

you need to play the decision minigame really well

[marsh ether]

ah you using the equipment lend lease glitch

[vocal fiber]

Yes

[shadow spire]

Hii

[umbral ingot]

and when you become the anarchists just hold your fortress in catalonia while trying to gain small ground in the south

[vocal fiber]

Hello

[worldly rose]

Hello, how's your day goin

[marsh ether]

Anarchist is so W because you can core everything

[shadow spire]

Its kind of ok

[marsh ether]

How to do world conquest ?

[worldly rose]

Thats so boring, wouldnt

[vocal fiber]

But first you need to win

[marsh ether]

Like I lowk did runs and like would cap 50% of world but I would give up because I don't wanna fight against a faction with 50 democratic nations

[worldly rose]

Most fun world conquest is probably doing the Trotsky speedrun

[marsh ether]

isn't the key in the speed?

Like you have to cap majors before they all unite

[umbral ingot]

easiest game I ever had was as the british fascist path

[vocal fiber]

I tried as Napoleonic France in road to 56 and it was already painful
It's very funny that I finished in 1th of January 1956

[marsh ether]

I play vanilla mostly

[umbral ingot]

because I had the USA in 1937

[marsh ether]

yeah because they have nothing

[umbral ingot]

well more like early 1938

[shadow spire]

Today my socks got wet and it ruined the rest of my day

[marsh ether]

USA is really weak until like 38 39

[umbral ingot]

but I declared war on them in 1937

after I annexed canada

[vocal fiber]

If you have the DLCs it can be fun, if not, it's not

[marsh ether]

yeah I have every single dlc

except the music packs

[umbral ingot]

which I did with the civil war mechanic

[umbral ingot]

even the new ones?

[marsh ether]

ah so you use the exploit where you annex all puppets?

[umbral ingot]

yeah, what I did was get the world tension to 80% by declaring war on them all individually LOL

because if you are at war with their master

you can declare war on the puppet

what I did was the unethical option

but I just steamrolled everyone from there

[vocal fiber]

I just remembered I also did Mosley British empire world conquest

[umbral ingot]

got all of europe in 1938

[marsh ether]

yeah I know bro

I played this game for quite a bit

[umbral ingot]

except Germany Italy and Soviets

[marsh ether]

USSR too?

ah welp

I mean

they aren't hard to get tbh

[umbral ingot]

but I did get everyone else due to France doing little entente

[vocal fiber]

French being french

[umbral ingot]

and then I fought Germany, which was not challenging, but it was annoying

[marsh ether]

franch is so weak

[vocal fiber]

You leave France alone for 5 minutes and it will have a revolution

[marsh ether]

I was playing as hist germany and broke through maginot

with a lot of super heavy railway guns

[umbral ingot]

my friend who has less then 800 hours did this yesterday by accident

[marsh ether]

without even using air because back then I ignored airforce

[marsh ether]

I don't recomend

[vocal fiber]

Phoney war?
No, I prefer blitzkrieg

[marsh ether]

I had a problem once

[umbral ingot]

with no special things just infantry and slightly good tanks

[worldly rose]

Ocasionnally French troops just leave the maginot, its not that hard then

[marsh ether]

I was playing as germany and I ran out of troops

[umbral ingot]

he told me they left one tile and that was enough

[marsh ether]

no but they had like 6 divs stacked along the border

[umbral ingot]

I am now going to try a tank only army

[marsh ether]

not recomended

[umbral ingot]

(with other equipment of course)

[marsh ether]

wait till your tanks reach marsh or jungle

or mountain

Just do armour memes

[umbral ingot]

I mean if I get a few divisions to hold the ports and special forces I should be fine

[marsh ether]

Bc tanks are not worth getting unless you research the 1939 variants

or maybe 1938

[marsh ether]

How do the rangers work btw?

I haven't gotten the chance to use those yet

[umbral ingot]

its just really good in forest tiles iirc

I mean thats their icon

they are better then infantry because of their special forces tree

[marsh ether]

do they have some stats as mountaneers?

except terrain buffs

[umbral ingot]

yes

they get the same special forces branch

like the mountain divs, the marines and paratroopers

they are the fourth special forces branch

[keen bough]

[marsh ether]

that's great

because more org

[umbral ingot]

so they will be better then infantry

[marsh ether]

hi

who are you

[marsh ether]

more org

[umbral ingot]

not just in their respective terain

but everywhere

[marsh ether]

because more orgg

[umbral ingot]

are you new to the server

[umbral ingot]

yes and other buffs

[marsh ether]

no but I don't usually chat here

[meager patrol]

Hi tails

[marsh ether]

I join almost 2 years ago

[umbral ingot]

makes sense

[marsh ether]

joined

[umbral ingot]

I saw

I checked

omg can my session load

nvidia

please stop investing all your money into that useless bubble

and put it into your actual profit making app

[keen bough]

https://tenor.com/view/countless-coloratura-coloratura-mlp-my-little-pony-mlp-wave-gif-1702021189915528781

[marsh ether]

@umbral ingot what's your favourite inf template

[keen bough]

[marsh ether]

are you the type of person who never speaks and only sends gifs and stickers?

[umbral ingot]

uhm

9 1 I guess

[meager patrol]

How are you?

[marsh ether]

hm

[echo jolt]

❤️

[marsh ether]

I usually use 12 inf

and armoured

space marine s

Line arty isn't that useful tho

[umbral ingot]

by 9 1 I mean 9 infantry 1 artillery batalions

[marsh ether]

it give no org

[umbral ingot]

I dont really care about org

[marsh ether]

and support?

[marsh ether]

but it's like one of the most important stats

[umbral ingot]

oh in support I put everything I can

[marsh ether]

bc if you have a lot of divs

they can fight for longer

[vocal fiber]

Hello Tails

[marsh ether]

I doubt that you put maintenance

you put specific things

[umbral ingot]

if I make it bigger it will be too costly

[umbral ingot]

I sometimes do

[marsh ether]

9 is the way to go for minor nations

[keen bough]

Doing pretty good

[marsh ether]

on infantry?

[umbral ingot]

yea

[keen bough]

https://tenor.com/view/twistim-mlp-my-little-pony-happy-twilight-sparkle-gif-6481078317428471599

[marsh ether]

are you deadass 🥀

even military police is more useful

[meager patrol]

Thats amazing to hear

[umbral ingot]

I said sometimes

which means not a lot

[marsh ether]

mp is kinda good in some cases

a lot of recovery rate

[umbral ingot]

I use military police on my garrison units all the time

mp is like the one thing I research first

mp is goated

[latent heath]

If anyone is here that actually edits the hoi4 wiki, I just looked at the doctrine page and well, its outdated. A lot. Xibei San Ma is in it and the only 4 doctrines are mobile warfare, superior firepower, grand battleplan and mass assault

[umbral ingot]

but I avoid it on actual divisions like its cursed

[vocal fiber]

Good strategy

[keen bough]

I'm still watching more Victoria 3 tutorials, but I kinda need a break from the game for a while

[umbral ingot]

for garison I take the cavalry division starting template usually and then change the recon to mp

[umbral ingot]

and it pays of because its cheap and has the best supression

[vocal fiber]

Yes

[umbral ingot]

one thing I like in this game

is the infamous navy

[marsh ether]

waste of equipment

they don't have any effect on resistance

people tested it

[umbral ingot]

they do?

supresion

[marsh ether]

not really

I saw a yt vid where they did a test

and they had normal garrison and after adding mp the resistance did not change

at all

[umbral ingot]

I literally checked the stats

[marsh ether]

Best garison is prolly armoured cars

[marsh ether]

ok stats say so

[umbral ingot]

and it helped

[marsh ether]

but why in an actual test it doesn't change?

[worldly rose]

It doesnt help resistance, it helps cost

[umbral ingot]

yes armored cars I know that but I never get to research them

[umbral ingot]

yes I was gonna say that

[marsh ether]

in what sense?

[umbral ingot]

I check the stats for how many divisions I need per supresion

and when I add mp it lowers it extremely

from 30 to 20

which is a lot

[worldly rose]

Garrisons become cheaper to supply

[marsh ether]

ah

that is quite good

[umbral ingot]

its not about the resistance really

[marsh ether]

what garrison mode you use?

[worldly rose]

Instead of

1000 infantry equipment to fulfill a garrison

you might need

700 infantry equipment and 20 support equipment

idk the actual amounts

[umbral ingot]

the one below secret police

I think it was called local police

or something

[marsh ether]

I use civilian or autonomy one on normal provinces

and situational depending if resistance is high

like paris

and if it has a lot of factories or resource I exploit the occupation law to get over 100%

[umbral ingot]

I use local autonomy as democratic always and liberated workers as communist always because its just the intended way

but with fascist and non aligned I use local police force

yeah that was the name

[open gulch]

hey

[worldly rose]

Welcome

[umbral ingot]

I like building compliance but civilian government is too expensive because it does not lower resistance at all

local police force is also the cheapest to me

(except no garison)

[open gulch]

Thanks man

[keen bough]

Welcome!

[umbral ingot]

omg nvidia work faster

10 people queue

come on

[marsh ether]

liberated workers is the best thing

[worldly rose]

Qeueue for what?

[umbral ingot]

oh I think it heard me cause its working

[umbral ingot]

to get into the game

I use geforce now

[worldly rose]

Are you gaming with remote PC subscription?

Ah

[marsh ether]

it's literally the best occupation law in the game in terms of compliance

[umbral ingot]

because my laptop is too trash

[worldly rose]

Is that affordable, empress?

[umbral ingot]

yes but the free one

[worldly rose]

aha

[umbral ingot]

obviously no

LOL

I would have bought the subscription

but its so expensive I rather wait 30 minutes in queue

[meager patrol]

@worldly rose rename yourself to king marijn211

[umbral ingot]

here comes the possesive one again

xd

no offence miss Flowi

[umbral ingot]

yes

[umbral ingot]

actually the local autonomy one is

[worldly rose]

Id do emperor to tease Flowi but thatd be a bit weird for you, Austro-Femgarian xD

[marsh ether]

liberated workers is better I think

lemme see the chart

[umbral ingot]

hey a win is a win

still emperor of what

[meager patrol]

I will bully you even more snugglebug

[umbral ingot]

I dont think it is

its more resources

and factories

but less compliance in the long run

[worldly rose]

lol

[vocal fiber]

Marijn van Oranje-Nassau

[umbral ingot]

you ever wonder how britain and france get full compliance in their colonial holdings

[umbral ingot]

actually it would be wierd cause no I am not marrying marjin

[vocal fiber]

And Flowi Von Wettin

[meager patrol]

[umbral ingot]

so is it confirmed I am von Hasburg

:3

[worldly rose]

but the rom com 😔

xd

[umbral ingot]

LMAO

[marsh ether]

nope

[umbral ingot]

hey as a infamous mustached general once said

"we dont like statistics"

[vocal fiber]

Marijn you are an Oranje-Nassau

[umbral ingot]

or whatever

[latent heath]

teto von habsburg-lothringen

[marsh ether]

purple line is liberated workers

[worldly rose]

I feel like there are nicer people here than in the royal family

[marsh ether]

and blue under is autonomy

[worldly rose]

For my taste at least

[umbral ingot]

hmm

okey the rom con can remain a thing

[marsh ether]

the days are on bottom

[vocal fiber]

Wilhelmina I?

[marsh ether]

And it's in thousands I think

so it measure up to like 8 years

[umbral ingot]

so the lighter shade of purple or

[worldly rose]

Really only older monarchs were well known about

[royal bone]

Hey

[marsh ether]

the top one

[worldly rose]

Our current king is know for being a nice party guy and a pilot

[umbral ingot]

compliance?

[meager patrol]

Nope im flowi von Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

[marsh ether]

no

I think this one is factories

[umbral ingot]

oh factories

well thats what I said

[marsh ether]

yeah % of factories

[umbral ingot]

anyway I gotta go

nice talking to ya stats guy

[marsh ether]

bye

[marsh ether]

I didn['t make this

some crazy russian guy did

on youtube

and I jus use it

[umbral ingot]

still

stats guy

[marsh ether]

he made a code in c++

[vocal fiber]

That's a branch from the Wettin house
Like Spain and France had different bourbons, but they were bourbons

[worldly rose]

Dont know much about her

[marsh ether]

that calculates the meta plane design

and tests every signle design possible

he is crazy

imma head off cya guys

[vocal fiber]

Search information

Very interesting

[worldly rose]

I mostly learn general history instead of Dutch history specifically

good noot eee

[meager patrol]

Ah

[umbral ingot]

I only like carrier planes and nothing else

[worldly rose]

I only watch some state-funded documentaries about post-war to 2010 politics

[meager patrol]

~~ @worldly rose do it common~~

[vocal fiber]

Windsor are also Wettin, the Belgian house, the Portuguese, the Bulgarian

[meager patrol]

I see

[worldly rose]

hm?

[meager patrol]

King marijn211

[vocal fiber]

But you get a point for being accurate

[umbral ingot]

Which is why Wettin is supposedly the number 1 house in influence trought history, after Hasburg

[latent heath]

damn it

[vocal fiber]

Yes

[latent heath]

were 2. place

[umbral ingot]

Sorry Austro bros, I know

😔

[vocal fiber]

I have a family tree of the royal houses of Europe

It's pretty interesting seeing all the connections

Tomorrow I'll share it

[latent heath]

that you?

I dont know what language that is

[umbral ingot]

I have one from a guy on YouTube that I learned that fact from, I think you are talking about the same graph

[meager patrol]

How many are connected?

[latent heath]

its apparently azerbaijani

[umbral ingot]

Almost all

If not all with atleast one or two marriages betwean them

[latent heath]

I think I found this humans chess account

[vocal fiber]

WTF ITS ME

[latent heath]

hah!

I just searched meluchipower on google

[meager patrol]

Interesting

[umbral ingot]

I am talking about the European dynasties

[vocal fiber]

Basically all the ruling kings/queens of Europe are cousins, farther or closer, but cousins

For example the Norwegian and Swedish kings are second cousins

[umbral ingot]

Just like I said, there is a reason Queen Victoria was called "the Grandmother of Europe" because almost all monarchs were directly related to her

In ww1 3 of her direct grandchildren fought eachother, George the V, Tzar Nicholas and Willy the second :3

[vocal fiber]

Yes

Imagine the 3 cousins allied

Instead of the triple entente and the triple alliance

[open gulch]

How you doing

[umbral ingot]

They all easily could, 2 of them already did, in my opinion ww1 could have been avoided in many ways

Or very different

[vocal fiber]

Yes

[umbral ingot]

Because the alliances of ww1 were not the same as ww2, ww2 was a ideological fight which determined its factions, ww1 was way more complex

[meager patrol]

Never knew that

[vocal fiber]

If Prussia didn't just united Germany and also united all Germans (the German empire, the Austria-Hungarian empire and the German part of Switzerland)

[umbral ingot]

Yes and I don't mean changing event from a long time before ww1

[vocal fiber]

Super Germany in victoria III 😂

[umbral ingot]

I mean straight up everything could have been different right after the assassination

[meager patrol]

True

[umbral ingot]

For example Britain's parliament didn't know about the London treaty still being valid

Until it was announced

[vocal fiber]

The Austria-Hungarian answer, what Russia or Germany did, UK not interventing in Schlieffen plan

Serbia accepting the ultimatum

[umbral ingot]

I mean we could have had

Picture this

[vocal fiber]

I'm scared

I don't know what I'm about to see

[meager patrol]

Dont be scared

Young one

[umbral ingot]

Germany allied with Russia, Italy and Romania against Britain, France and Austria

Or wait that's not too wierd

[vocal fiber]

Which one?

[umbral ingot]

Germany fighting France, and Russia with Britain on their side, Austria neutral and Belgium allowing them to pass

[umbral ingot]

The one which guaranteed their independence

Belgium's

Independence

It was labeled "the scrap of paper"

[vocal fiber]

I know I'm younger than you, you'll have wrinkles on the face when I'll get out of university

[umbral ingot]

Russia could have been neutral

[vocal fiber]

Oh yeah

[meager patrol]

Congrats

You are now

[vocal fiber]

Getting banned

[umbral ingot]

Germany could have just not attacked Belgium and focused on Russia

[meager patrol]

banned

[vocal fiber]

Yes

[vocal fiber]

Sorry 😔

[umbral ingot]

And maybe making a timeline where the war is just Germany and Austria bullying Russia while Britain watches and France barks at the border

We could have had France invade Belgium instead

[vocal fiber]

Very interesting

[umbral ingot]

Which could have drawn Britain in the war on the side of the central powers

Or France/Germany trying to open a new front in Switzerland

Either at the start of middle or even towards the end of the war

USA could have remained neutral or even attack Britain

[vocal fiber]

Damm

[umbral ingot]

Serbia could have just agreed to peace out after the start of the war

And leave the fight while the other powers just kept fighting

Romania could have joined the central powers when Russia colapsed, in a timeline Romania waits longer

[vocal fiber]

Flowi, I just remembered, Saxony appeared in my catalan class

[meager patrol]

Since you are still a little kiddo i will let it go trough

But be warned

[vocal fiber]

Thanks :3

[vocal fiber]

Got it

[umbral ingot]

Greece could have fully remained neutral, so could have Italy, Bulgaria, the ottomans, and Romania too

[vocal fiber]

@umbral ingot you have a lot of free time, don't you?

[umbral ingot]

Yes and as you can see ww1 is my favorite subject

Spain could have joined too ig

On either side

[vocal fiber]

No

I can tell you

😂

[umbral ingot]

Or Sweden too

[vocal fiber]

Spain was very bad

[umbral ingot]

Okey I know the reason why they didn't join was because they were shit

[vocal fiber]

<@&846894118219022336>

[umbral ingot]

@disco-

[vocal fiber]

Oh

[umbral ingot]

Nvm

Fast people

I like it

[vocal fiber]

Flowi?

[meager patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/festthefestivefest-john-dorie-fear-the-walking-dead-ftwd-garret-dillahunt-gif-14891830818688578473

[umbral ingot]

Anyway it's my autistic passion

[meager patrol]

Most of them

[umbral ingot]

I love ww1

[vocal fiber]

Spain lost a lot of influence and power in the 1800s and later

In the war of 1898

For example

They lost the philippines, Cuba and Puerto Rico

And the big instability if the monarchy

[vocal fiber]

Who doesn't?

Basically it's the reason the world has become what it is

[meager patrol]

I wonder what if it never broke out

[vocal fiber]

We wouldn't have advanced in science

At least not as we have advanced

We know a lot

In physics or chemistry we would be years in the past
In biology maybe we would know as much as now

Jet motors were very important

And radar

Aerodynamics

Fritz Haber

The man who discovered how to make ammonia

And fertilizers

[meager patrol]

But think about the nice citys

Museums

And stuff

[vocal fiber]

The artistical part?

[vocal fiber]

And very important
Nuclear physics

[vocal fiber]

What would have changed?
"Avant-garde" was the current way of art

[umbral ingot]

Atleast 150 million people would have been spared from the bloodshed of the two world wars

And the horror of them

We would probably be in an even more more conservative minded world

But at the same time less authoritarian

It's wierd to imagine the political landscape of such a timeline

[amber crest]

It was inevitably going to break out since the 1890s

[vocal fiber]

Spanish flu

Also an important thing

[umbral ingot]

But it could have not

[umbral ingot]

Which happened due to the war

[amber crest]

True but if Franz Ferdinand wasn’t assassinated it would be the next crisis down the line

[umbral ingot]

It came from the trenches and wasn't treated due to the war and only named the Spanish flu because Spain was the first country to actually act uppon it

[umbral ingot]

Yes but it would also had a chance of just nothing happening down the line

It could have been avoided in many ways

Or just

Scaled down

[white raft]

hi friends

[umbral ingot]

In intensity

[umbral ingot]

Hai

[white raft]

im done with school

[amber crest]

I lean more towards this

[white raft]

we installed some power poles

[meager patrol]

Russia would have prob still had the Revolutions

[umbral ingot]

I think we live in one of the timelines where the crisis was the most violent

[vocal fiber]

Hello