hoi4-general

[brittle cypress]

What about the third one

[fair compass]

what about the SECOND one..

[prisma steppe]

what about the current one?

(i think there is one?)

[frail kestrel]

Napoleon VIII?

aka Jean

[lapis onyx]

doesnt napoleon have descendents because his heirs and children were allowed to live iirc?

or something like that

i forgot the terms of the first treaty but it was something like that

[raw crystal]

Is United Front or Subjugate the Warlords better for China for the focus tree? I do not have NCNS.

[proper minnow]

yeah but none of them are legitimate

[gleaming quiver]

France have won the most documented battles of any country in history btw

their loss in ww2 was due to incompetent high command rather than their actual physical military strength or equipment, the french B1 was actually a better tank than any of the panzers of the time

[vivid juniper]

Subjugate Korea bypass does that mean I lose access to reclaim the north as China?

I puppeted them when Japan capped am I boned

I was able to get Mongolia without a fight as the Soviets just didn’t seem to care and they were preoccupied because they decided to fight the allies

[quaint moon]

bypass means the focus is completed without rewards

so you can move onto the next focus if a given focus is bypassed

[vivid juniper]

Yeah, it didn’t allow me to reclaim the north

[quaint moon]

ss?

[vivid juniper]

The one that gives claims and annex war goals on the Soviets

What am I missing here?

[quaint moon]

are there any chinese nations your still at war with that are exiled?

[vivid juniper]

No

When I bypassed all prerequisites, it didn’t even unlock with that

[eternal aspen]

what mods do y'all say would be good with EAW?

[calm shell]

Just went to war and destroyed the UK as the USA all because I declared war on Haiti (they were still midway in their war against the Axis and losing) 💀

War with USA while at war with Axis vs. defending Haiti who’s not even in the allies

[eternal aspen]

<@&846894118219022336>

[frail kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480108173170835583/1509417842452201613/image0.gif

[prisma steppe]

devastation overhaul, then play in southern zebrica

https://tenor.com/view/stalin-camp-gulag-ussr-sfsr-gif-11375769938799485374

[merry compass]

When is the next sale?

What is better arm against tiny something or no step back

Ima start saving money

[terse skiff]

nsb > la resistance > aat > bba > gott > ncns

[opal nymph]

What is important about la resistance

[terse skiff]

spy networks

[opal nymph]

If no one has it, it isnt the worst experience

Me when I research encryption and decryption

[terse skiff]

yes but intel advantage = +15% attack

[opal nymph]

Well, if no one has it, then no problem

Or you get another decryption tech

[terse skiff]

yeah well if no one has dlc then no problem then

[prisma steppe]

holy are the mods not here wtf

<@&846894118219022336>

[true oar]

markiplier

[cedar coral]

guys

is there a lemur focus in hoi4

[quasi shoal]

What

[cedar coral]

focus icon with a lemur on it

because i SWEAR there was one

[quasi shoal]

I dont believe so

[wet flicker]

if you think you know this game, what country does this flag belong to

[true oar]

Great britain

[wet flicker]

god dang twin

you got ts quick

[cedar coral]

ts too easy

[wet flicker]

apparently so

bro answered ts in like 5 seconds

i thought i was being unique 😕

[lapis snow]

I own this flag irl

[sly current]

OH YES I FIANLLY CAN TALK HERE HOLY SHIT I COULDNYT VERITFY MY PHONE FOR SO LONG HFIYWGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEH

yay

[prisma steppe]

i gave the germans 300 divs as expiditionary, yet they cant defend a single border properly

holy smoky

[quasi shoal]

Light work

[quasi shoal]

Goddamn

[fair horizon]

Thats king's party path britian

[wet flicker]

all that excitement not to get replied to twin

but ill look out for you

wassup bruh

[wet flicker]

whats up vendrip

it took me 8 months to beat canada and get my dominions that left re-annexed as great britain

i think im gonna redo the entire war

and try to get it done faster

[arctic ridge]

this mechanic is actually garbage unless you play historical ethiopia

the war escalation mechanic

its just

useless

[opal nymph]

Stump people by showing flags of African countries of varying ideologies

[opal nymph]

It is funny watching Italy blow itself up

Also it time gates stuff which sets the pacing

[arctic ridge]

true, but its not fun having 30 half strength divisions holding a line for 2 years until you can do something

my case in point

[opal nymph]

You get the 2k guns a week decision very early

[opal nymph]

Oh, you gave up the south

Yeah, that makes things take longer

And the north is extremely hard to hold now as well

[arctic ridge]

im playing the communist/anarchist path

[opal nymph]

Oh, then you dont get the LoN stuffs

[arctic ridge]

mmhm

and the soviet aid path is... okay?

[opal nymph]

Well, you abandoned the guy literally going there to ask for help

[opal nymph]

It has like a 50% of Soviets and Italy going to war with each other and literally nothing happens

[arctic ridge]

yeah

has happened in my games when ethiopia goes communist

i play on nonhist a lot

more fun for me

however, future ally?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261761667491041411/1509206312683175987/IMG_5033.gif

[opal nymph]

Well, should make the African union path a lot easier

[arctic ridge]

i think there should still at least be some way to ask for help from other people or something similar

[opal nymph]

Or you push out the italians

You got 2 focuses to pick from

[arctic ridge]

like if you go the anarchist path it would offer decisions for camp raiding and shit

[opal nymph]

Attack the desert or attack the mountains in the north

Because why would you ever pick the falling back option

[arctic ridge]

i should clarify this is my first time playing Ethiopia so im kinda winging it

[opal nymph]

Ah

Well, the Italians should eventually have their colonies rebel

[arctic ridge]

eventually

[opal nymph]

And that should make things a lot easier

[arctic ridge]

im holding well

[opal nymph]

Well, you have the Italians starving to death in no supply zones

[arctic ridge]

idk if i wanna take this focus tho

[opal nymph]

You are bound to hold them off

[opal nymph]

I have no clue if that will give away land that you do not control

[arctic ridge]

i think it may be a ceasefire at the current borders

[eternal aspen]

for carriers, it's fighters and nav for the optimal stuff?

[true oar]

is there any way to annex russia/ussr without taking 2 years of just getting across the land

like any ways to make it shorter

[brittle cypress]

collab governments

help

[deep solstice]

this is lowk like the best feeling in the world

Its like weeks of victories

10 destroyers here

12 there

and then theres one final battle that decides it all

Navy is lowk overhated

[deep solstice]

found the other one

[winter fulcrum]

great britain

[graceful grove]

Only one of My paratrooper reached and France put on the white flag 😭

[fair horizon]

Navy just be like that

[true oar]

bc its complicated

and useless

(with most countries)

some its like 100% of ur countries importance

but with most it is useles

[deep solstice]

Yeah pretty much

UK, Italy (sometimes), Japan, and the US are the only countries that can get a navy

building one is literally hell on earth

i LOVE this destroyer

[lost tide]

It's easy as italy to destroy the Royal navy

You just refit your light cruisers to a light attack intensive template + build some carriers and you are done

[deep solstice]

Most of the time as weak navy nations I just spam a really strong destroyers like this

[lost tide]

I just did this and it was so hilarious it isn't funny

[deep solstice]

If you get ~20 dockyards as the Soviet Union

you can do 2 dockyards on convoys

8 on one submarine path

and 5 for 2 lines of destroyers

[lost tide]

Soviets are the worst for navy

[deep solstice]

and pretty much just destroy the entire german navy

[lost tide]

They have three naval fronts

Even germany is decent for navy

[deep solstice]

I mostly like navy just to see the convoys get raided

[wet flicker]

if germany dropped all diplomatic relations after italy joins the axis, can i still count on germany not joining the war on italys behalf?

[deep solstice]

even though I know damn well its not doing really anything

[lost tide]

Idk how to destroy the usn as italy though...

They have 12-17 carriers

I have four

[merry compass]

Does faster ship effect protroling mission effectiveness

[lost tide]

Affect* and yes it does

U need to have specific spotting/patrol destroyers alongside patrol light cruisers for it to patrol properly

[true oar]

If they are in the same faction they will likely join the war

very likely

[misty fossil]

protroling

[deep solstice]

fair enough honestly

it took me almost 30 minutes last week

to explain Navy to my friends

who just got into the game

Cause theres just so much to cover

its simple but its a lot

[wet flicker]

navy is extremely easy if you just read fr

[deep solstice]

Screening, proper screen ships, ship classification, the weird mechanics like mines

[deep solstice]

honest

[misty fossil]

no one uses mines, not even the ai

[deep solstice]

Japan does

like

extensively

[fair horizon]

False

[misty fossil]

navy is easy to understand tbh people are just tired of having to learn new things frm scratch

[fair horizon]

Britian and japan do

[deep solstice]

im still cleaning up their shit

[wet flicker]

uk does

[fair horizon]

I use them as well as the player

[misty fossil]

oh thats odd

[misty fossil]

never seen that before

[deep solstice]

and ive been sweeping them for days

[fair horizon]

Its not

[wise pelican]

Guys are any of the scandanavian countries fun to play

[wet flicker]

they stack up in the english chanel

[deep solstice]

yeah they mine all their coasts

[wet flicker]

but mines are pretty useless imo

[wet flicker]

i never notice the difference

[deep solstice]

I just pick a shitty admiral and lay my own, while I destroy theirs

[misty fossil]

yeah same tbh

[wet flicker]

i mean unless its SPAMMED

[wise pelican]

Guys are any of the scandanavian countries fun to play

[deep solstice]

For me the issue is like

[fair horizon]

-30% invasion penalty

[deep solstice]

naval invasions are SO BAD with mines down

[fair horizon]

Completely nullifies non-marines

[deep solstice]

its FIFTY percent 😭

[wet flicker]

ohhhhhhh

[deep solstice]

that 50% penalty is DISGUSTING 😭

[wet flicker]

i thought they did ship damage but that makes wayy more sense

[deep solstice]

they do all sorts of things

[wet flicker]

yo as the uk thats actually pretty op in a mp game

[misty fossil]

i never knew mines give invasion penalty

[fair horizon]

Is it 50? Damn i didnt even know it was that good lmao

[fair horizon]

Fake navyer

[deep solstice]

at 500/1000 mines

[wet flicker]

fr

[misty fossil]

shocking

[deep solstice]

its terrible sometimes

[wet flicker]

imagine endsieg

[deep solstice]

see i just like being annoying with my mines

this is all you need tbh

[wet flicker]

ima start laying some mines in mp

[deep solstice]

Sometimes I wonder like

what am I even producing

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-boys-homelander-44

Is it more effiecient to do 2 lines

it seems like it but I really cant tell

for large boats I know it is

I think

like 3 dockyards on 2 lines of battleships produces 2 in about 1.33x the time of one line on 5x dockyards (from my testing)

[deep solstice]

is that

Kyanite

Subnautica reference

[misty fossil]

no its crystals in eaw

[true oar]

will they do it

never say never yk

[opal nymph]

In the event of a war, more than likely

[true oar]

lookat the chance

[opal nymph]

I noticed

They sending a guy with a truck?

With Russian flags all over it with "bomb on board" on the side?

[true oar]

They just chose the most terrible spot to raid

i have 5 anti airs and a maxed (for the current year) radar

thats literaly the only spot i have anti air

• I have better planes than them

but they still have a 0.05% chance

im shaking in my boots

[woven gate]

not enough yet

[misty fossil]

I ended up putting 8000 mils on those tanks

[woven gate]

what could possibly warrant that in all seriousness

[misty fossil]

the ai

[frail kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480108173170835583/1509417842452201613/image0.gif

[frail kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1504212576496517361/1508190659335684286/togif.gif

[deep solstice]

what should I add to my Heavy Fighter

https://klipy.com/gifs/excuse-me-sir-23

[fair horizon]

Good luck, fun is banned

[terse skiff]

2 more heavy mgs

Your plane is half as good as a light fighter but 1/3 more in cost

[deep solstice]

im facing a small issue

I mean actually

im the US so

I can afford the fuel for a 4 engine setup

ill use this instead

4 engines is a lot of fuel but

not that much by comparison

@vestal briar what do you suggest

[deep solstice]

I never use Heavy Fighters cause they lowk cost too much

[true oar]

facism

[deep solstice]

were they just

hiding this carrier

and this battleship

in some random port

[vestal briar]

I feel feces clumping up in my digestive tract

[deep solstice]

theres levels to ts 💔

[covert ermine]

😵‍💫

[misty fossil]

more guns

you dont have AAT?

[deep solstice]

Nah never bought it

[tawdry tree]

How to stop allied naval invasion where should I even secure to STOP THEM

Istg its always the allied bro

Sweden 1955 and im running low on mp on all adult serve

Ngl ill go on scrapping the barrel istg

[tawdry tree]

I got britian dead and the iberian penisula

[fair horizon]

With a navy

[tawdry tree]

What do i even do

[fair horizon]

Mines if you need them

They cant naval invade you if they dont have a navy 🧠

[cold gazelle]

Hello there

[quaint moon]

ports

always have divisions on, and if possible on either side of ports

ports are the only way naval invasions can get supply, so making sure that they dont get ports is pretty important. its probably not neccessary against AI, but having divs on either side of the port also prevents them from opening the combat width up

[tawdry tree]

I do port guards regularly but i just need a land to stop them from having naval invasion start point

[tribal frost]

army

[tawdry tree]

I alr secured the UK and spanish penisula

They keep pumping troops outta nowhere

[fair horizon]

id reccomend using your navy to get supremacy or blowing up their navy

[tawdry tree]

With nav planes?

Can u gimme a good template

Mine gets blown too easily

[merry compass]

Does naval bomber increase naval dominance

[honest glacier]

just cap the allies

[craggy trail]

No. You need actual ships on patrol to gain naval dominance

Adding colors 🎨

[fair horizon]

Navy as in boats

[fair horizon]

Iirc fighters do

Or mabye it was naval patrol

[misty fossil]

what am i looking at

[fair horizon]

Idr something with planes does

[tawdry tree]

Nawh i just need a good nav bomber template

As sweden i dont have enough fuel to fund a navy

[fair horizon]

Cas with dive brakes and armor piercing bombs does the most damage tbh

[tawdry tree]

I might scrap the barrel because of the incompetent german

[fair horizon]

Unless you have torp 3

[tawdry tree]

Not mounted torpedoes?

I got torp 3

[craggy trail]

NATO Symbology

[tawdry tree]

But they still get blown to pieces

[fair horizon]

I still notice armor piercing cas doing more damage

Just less critd

[tawdry tree]

My cas is for ground only

I dont have amour piercing cas

[misty fossil]

pretty sure thats only the case for vnr, since that mod gives you techs that boost cas attack stats against ships

[tawdry tree]

Add an anti tanks gun for tanks lol

[misty fossil]

for land based planes i always use heavy planes with double torps either way

[fair horizon]

No even in vanilla they seemed to do more damage

[misty fossil]

really

[fair horizon]

Cause me and oberkommando were arguing

[craggy trail]

HOI4 has a setting in the main menu where you can toggle NATO icons

[misty fossil]

i'm aware of that

i just have no idea what they are suppoed to be

tanks, mechs and what

[tawdry tree]

Large airframe with torps?

Or medium

[misty fossil]

heavy fighters with one 2x light mgs and 2x torp 3s

[tawdry tree]

Thanks time to build it in 1955

Should I just play a new game or go on til 1975

Or 1960 wtv

[misty fossil]

just restart bro

[fair horizon]

Ngl i forgot medium airframes could use multiple torps

[misty fossil]

yeah

[sharp ginkgo]

what is going on

i'm so confused lmfao

[fair horizon]

Are heavy fighters any good?

[vivid juniper]

Would a Romania + Yugoslavia and Albania DLC Pack be fire or mid?

[fair horizon]

No anyone playing romania should suffer the way i did and if they change it ill be very upset

Gotta be the worst country in the game

[brisk marsh]

Boyz tonight soneone plays?

[trim badge]

#tech-support message I've been dealing with ts for the past few days and I just want someone to help me out here

[split sable]

Playing on historical as Italy and suddenly Lithuania attacked Poland.... wtf lol

[winter fulcrum]

historical doesnt always guarantee that ALL ai will go historical, sometimes some ai still go different paths

[tiny iris]

Terrible templae.

I will try it anyways,

[winter fulcrum]

should be 36 widht

width*

also add support aa

[tiny iris]

Too expensive.

I like to have my airforce to protect.

[winter fulcrum]

aa is not that expensive 😭

you are playing germany

[tiny iris]

Too much PTSD from France

Sorry

The tanks aren't too bad.

[grave sonnet]

Do only artillery division

[grave sonnet]

Wdym France is ez

[tiny iris]

@grave sonnet, opinion on this?

[tiny iris]

Lack of production.

It's easy but a pain

Get me?

[grave sonnet]

Uhh make it 36 width and add more support

[tiny iris]

Danke.

[grave sonnet]

Go Independent Communist

[grave sonnet]

But yeah you just gotta wait till the bonuses hit

I did like

1.7k

[buoyant fractal]

ha think i found a typo

[grave sonnet]

Damage

And melted 30 stacked divs

[grave sonnet]

Funy pills

[grave sonnet]

By support I mean support companies

Hospital , Logistics,Flame tank

And yeah yk

[clear dagger]

italy and vichy actually being useful for once

https://tenor.com/view/tesla-and-einstein-luma-ai-gif-14475294631445060178

[grave sonnet]

That's gonna be fun to clean up

[clear dagger]

what the..

wtf this is the actual norway with focus tree

[bronze needle]

i alwats wanted to know what does the yellow ! means

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[bronze needle]

is it related abt logistics

or nah

[bronze needle]

hi pal

[cedar lance]

wassup ghal

[clear dagger]

something to do with unable to do the battleplan or smth

[cedar lance]

just went shopping

[grave sonnet]

Nice leader

[bronze needle]

what

[clear dagger]

like they're not ready to do it either cause of low org or supply

[bronze needle]

w

[bronze needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/roblox-mighty-omega-1--k01KQ313PZ81P8E32WJQ07X0C47

[cedar lance]

wdym

[bronze needle]

yo is the ai better in higher difficulties or they are just getting buffs

[grave sonnet]

They just getting buffs which makes them a bit better ig

[clear dagger]

omg how do i have 30% of the warscore as luxembourg

this is illegal

[bronze needle]

why u in luxembourg in first place 😭

[sudden grotto]

The famous kaare carenwall, the father of norway

[clear dagger]

I shall form the EU and kill a billion people

[bronze needle]

kill 7 billion people img*

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-astral-claws-space-marine-warhammer-warhammer-40k-gif-17483303521650911739

also i somehow got finland in my faction

[bronze needle]

seems pretty historical for me

[mellow mirage]

do you really want to prioritize a navy as the germans or is better to paradrop the uk?

[clear dagger]

legalize nuclear bombs

[grave sonnet]

Navy is easy to do

You just invade italy

And steal it

[mellow mirage]

fair

[bronze needle]

just make 200 cruisers and naval invade them through the north sea, they are incredibly easy to invade their island

[grave sonnet]

Or just build crazy naval bombers and blow the navy up

If that fails

Give them a port

And let them funnel troops in

[mellow mirage]

yeah nav bombers was my second plan

[bronze needle]

make both

[clear dagger]

basic infantry doing 1000+ soft attack

https://tenor.com/view/galaxy-brain-gif-25912556

[grave sonnet]

Block?

[bronze needle]

with less than 3 fabrics for the aircraft should be enough

[grave sonnet]

Or is it legit just 9/0 holding

[bronze needle]

what is your template mate

i really need it

[grave sonnet]

It's prolly an infantry block of 36 width

[grave sonnet]

Nvm I am wrong

[clear dagger]

( I just abused a lot of buffs)

[grave sonnet]

But that isn't basic technically bcuz it has a tank

[clear dagger]

the tank is only for armor

[grave sonnet]

So it's a space marine

[bronze needle]

is it possible to make ap arty with no dlc's ?

[clear dagger]

i had that there for the defense, i dont really care anymore about the spaa i just didnt remove it

[grave sonnet]

Ion think so

[bronze needle]

what would be its equivalent then

or just

tanks

[opaque zinc]

I uh

[grave sonnet]

No clue

I haven't made Tanks when I had no dlc

I just made blocks

And when I was very new

[bronze needle]

dang it

[grave sonnet]

I just made 14/4

[bronze needle]

what is dat

[opaque zinc]

14 inf

[grave sonnet]

14 infantry 4 artillery

[opaque zinc]

4 art

[bronze needle]

damn

holy manpower

[opaque zinc]

Thats the new Meta

Horrible combat width is it not

You’re gonna get deadass 1 guy in a tile

Oh for pushing

I assume

[grave sonnet]

Idk I haven't been in the meta and ion really use it anymore I used it as a off div

When I didn't have DLCs

I used it to get Hugeoslavia

Achievement

[opaque zinc]

I don’t pay attention to the Mets either

[grave sonnet]

When I had like 600~ hours

[opaque zinc]

I just don’t want to play Yugoslavia

[grave sonnet]

Respect for not being a meta lord

[bronze needle]

just make shi up til something works is the meta frfr

[grave sonnet]

Then don't play it

I like it because I have yugoslav bias

[opaque zinc]

Im really excited for the next dlc

I have always wanted to play dei

[bronze needle]

i wish playing as bosnia was real

[grave sonnet]

TRUE

[opaque zinc]

Only person to say that

[grave sonnet]

Like 5 people would play it

And I would be all of those 5 people

[opaque zinc]

I mean

You can

[grave sonnet]

There's a mod

[bronze needle]

bruh

[opaque zinc]

Yeah

[grave sonnet]

You can form Bosnian Caliphate

[bronze needle]

ion knoe shi abt installing mods

[grave sonnet]

It's legit ez

Go to steam

[bronze needle]

not a single one seems good tho

[grave sonnet]

Workshop

And click install

[bronze needle]

THERE IS A WORKSHOP?!?

[grave sonnet]

Kaiserreich

[bronze needle]

OHHHH

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

[bronze needle]

I TRIED GETTING MODS THROUGH THE LAUNCHER 😭

[rich nymph]

United Kingdom has Joined The Chinese United Front

[grave sonnet]

WOAH WOAH WOAH

Only Bulgaria and Hungary can join that

The UK can stick to the allies

I prefer my Chinese United Front with Bulgars and Mađars

[rich nymph]

United States has Joined The Axis

[rich nymph]

a bit of a balkan flavour

[grave sonnet]

Hungary and Bulgaria returning to their homes

Hungary to Mongolia

And Bulgaria to Tajikistan

[rich nymph]

real

https://tenor.com/view/pulsive-pulsivee-pulsiveee-oppenheimer-oppenheimer-meme-gif-12511657345979901950

[bronze needle]

ts me frfr

[grave sonnet]

Crazy how they made the travel all the way from Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan

[tawdry tree]

American japan and japan???

[grave sonnet]

To Italy

[bronze needle]

american japan 😭

[rich nymph]

why can't japan raid before they declare war on US then US declare war?

[bronze needle]

how does that happens

[tawdry tree]

Because they cant re-create pearl harbor in hoi4

[rich nymph]

puppet the state and forgetting a state

[tawdry tree]

Should have made the US fleet had supply reduction and damaged heavy-hull ship until like late 1941

[mellow mirage]

is this a good cruiser to just destroy a uk ai navy?

[tawdry tree]

Technically you can make as many puppets as that country have through a lot of war

I've seen 2 soviet's Japan some times

[bronze needle]

waiter! waiter! more heavy guns please!

[rich nymph]

yea thats possible

[tawdry tree]

Idk about navy but if you make 1000 of them sure

[tiny iris]

End my misery, my addiction to this game.

[mellow mirage]

i mena yeah i was js gonna make a tonne

[rich nymph]

add a shi ton of batteries

[tawdry tree]

I dont even bother making a navy I just spam subs

[opaque zinc]

God damn when did you declare on them

[rich nymph]

the forbidden template

[tawdry tree]

Btw what should an ideal navy consist of

[opaque zinc]

I try to finish off Poland by the end of September

I guess it doesn’t matter all that much

[bronze needle]

holy ratio

[tiny iris]

1939 start date, school is in 20 minutes, couldn't do a proper game.

[opaque zinc]

I haven’t played Germany in a while in trying to think of what I do

[real flame]

what are the most common exploits in vanilla MP hoi4?

[tawdry tree]

10 of them encircled in paris when i retake paris from the Allied-control france gg

[rich nymph]

its called the forbidden template for a reason

[opaque zinc]

I see

[rich nymph]

CHEESE

[tawdry tree]

Big red one are kinda useless against my medium tanks

[bronze needle]

recon, main task force, convoy raiding

[tawdry tree]

Main task force?

Like heavy ships?

Idk how to make good heavy ships

[rich nymph]

you guys do a recon and convoy raiding?!

[tawdry tree]

They just get blown to pieces

[bronze needle]

recon helps task force, task force takes out enemy navy, subs get the convoys

[bronze needle]

ye

and lots of cruisers and destroyers

[rich nymph]

i just put all of the navy in one task force

[tawdry tree]

Eh i just use patrol plane and nav bombers

[bronze needle]

maybe even aircraft carriers

[tawdry tree]

Usually my navy is just subs and mid-tier cruiser

[bronze needle]

use your subs against convoys only please 🙏

they will be useless otherwise

and ye spamming one kind of ship is also an option

[rich nymph]

navy is so complicated 💔

i just cheese with space marine templates

[bronze needle]

nahhh, spam cruisers and done

atleast with the uk

and the mediterranean sea

trust

its like throwing 40000 unnarmed men against one tank

the tank will die one way or another

[grave sonnet]

My navy is just whatever I steal from others

[rich nymph]

this reminds me of something

[bronze needle]

ussr against germany or china against japan?

[rich nymph]

YES KING

[bronze needle]

i dont get that option whenever i annex a country, is that a dlc thing or im just dumb?

[rich nymph]

~ annex all

[bronze needle]

i do that 😭

[rich nymph]

best thing after the invention of machine

[tiny iris]

Final results

Micro managing

WOuld be way faster with tanks though

[bronze needle]

italy having only 96 fabrics at 1940 is just lame atp bro 💔

just conquer them istg 🥀

[tiny iris]

Italy?

Never heard of it.

[bronze needle]

its rite there

look at it

[tiny iris]

No, that's a shoe.

[bronze needle]

italy shaped belly germany "where did italy go lmao"

[mellow mirage]

does rommel's buffs to armour apply to self propelled artillery?

[bronze needle]

idk bro i just larped italy since i was born i cant answer

i think it does

maybe

[lyric pumice]

whats the best way/template for using SPGs?

[bronze needle]

all infantry and one bike division

[outer compass]

Polska :D

[lyric pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-bunny-rude-bunny-angry-rabbit-funny-gif-3018950223022045053

[opaque zinc]

It’s in bba

Literally the only reason I bought the dlc

[bronze needle]

big brave actions dlc?

[opaque zinc]

Stealing navies and resource rights should not be locked behind a dlc

[bronze needle]

the fuh is bba

[opaque zinc]

By blood alone

[bronze needle]

ohh

how much does it cost

[opaque zinc]

Like I’m one of the few people who genuinely think most of the dlcs are fair

[opaque zinc]

20 dollars

But next steam sale is like June 11th

[bronze needle]

gawdamn

more expensive than the game itself

[opaque zinc]

No

Game is like 40

[bronze needle]

nuh uh, i bought that for the crispiest 9 dollars iirc

or was that free?

idk

[opaque zinc]

I bought it when it was 10 dollars on a sale

But when it’s not on a sale it’s like 40

[bronze needle]

god i love steam

LONG LIVE GABE NEWELSSSSSSS

https://klipy.com/gifs/gaben-steam

NEW ITALIAN FOCUS TREE TOO??

FUh IT IM BUYING TS

[opaque zinc]

And Ethiopia

And

Ugh

Switzerland

How can Switzerland be fun

There’s no way it can be fun

Bro

[bronze needle]

-do nothing in the entire run
-win?

yo btw

why does my game lags even if i have 3 times more than required to play ts

or is it an universal thing

mostly when im in late runs or fight against the ussr

[misty fossil]

Base game usually isnt worth it

[bronze needle]

huh

fym

[misty fossil]

You need to buy all the DLCs marked as “Expansion” because 80% of the games’ mechanics are locked behind those

thats how these companies make money

[opaque zinc]

I think bba and no step back are the only DLCs truly needed

[misty fossil]

the other focus tree packs are kinda not worth

[misty fossil]

Aat:

[opaque zinc]

I am lucky enough to have the money so I just buy them all

[misty fossil]

La resistance:

[opaque zinc]

You don’t NEED aat

You don’t need la resistance

[misty fossil]

You do

[opaque zinc]

They’re very important

But

You can live without…

[plain temple]

ну че америкосы

[opaque zinc]

I mean I did for a while

[bronze needle]

aight thats it! im pirating everything now!

[covert tangle]

хеллоу мазафака

[plain temple]

салам

[misty fossil]

You get banned from here if you mention pirating

[bronze needle]

oh dang

[trim pike]

[plain temple]

ты че сказал мазафакер

[opaque zinc]

I used to want to pirate like all the DLCs

[covert tangle]

ватафак брух

[opaque zinc]

I literally was told how

I just

[trim pike]

Please it to English here

[plain temple]

тут все на ингшлише базарят

[opaque zinc]

Was too scared

[trim pike]

Who told u

[plain temple]

khm

[opaque zinc]

Im a good girl I can’t go to prison

[covert tangle]

okay

[misty fossil]

God

[plain temple]

hello

[trim pike]

Lets not discuss piracy here

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-rc-streamer-scream-shout-too-loud-gif-17094737

[misty fossil]

Ur a girl?

[covert tangle]

АХУЕЛ

[opaque zinc]

Yes

[plain temple]

cho za

[misty fossil]

67

[opaque zinc]

Well I mean

Oh wrong reply

[covert tangle]

пизда ювесейке

[bronze needle]

lmao

[opaque zinc]

Well I mean

[misty fossil]

are you sending me a death threat?

@ discord moderation

[trim pike]

[opaque zinc]

👩

[trim pike]

Wait u also play the centaura hoi4 mod?

[opaque zinc]

Yea

[trim pike]

???

[trim pike]

Oh nice

[misty fossil]

is that mod good

[trim pike]

U play da?

[bronze needle]

what is dat

[trim pike]

If u play the roblox games yes

[opaque zinc]

I have only played a little dead ahead

[misty fossil]

content mod for a roblox game

[trim pike]

Dont play if u dont know what it is

[trim pike]

No

Its a hoi4 mod

[misty fossil]

no i have 0 idea

[misty fossil]

bad wording

[opaque zinc]

Centaura is really good

[misty fossil]

its a

[trim pike]

damn

[bronze needle]

the fuh was that

[opaque zinc]

I like this new uh

[misty fossil]

hoi4 adaptation of a roblox game

[opaque zinc]

Tank

[trim pike]

Our regular scam post

[bronze needle]

"our" okay commie

jk

dont ban me pls

[opaque zinc]

Why would they ban you for that

[trim pike]

Because we want to

[bronze needle]

i got before

mods these days bro

[opaque zinc]

What could you do to get banned from this server when I literally see some crazy stuff here

Wait let me find it

There was something 100 percent bannable dude

[bronze needle]

not THIS server eggsactly

[trim pike]

Where

[exotic bridge]

I'm playing millennium dawn rn as russia and I just found my heaven

[misty fossil]

I cant believe there are women in this server

[exotic bridge]

artillery all the way baby

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/moderators-mods-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-old-kill-this-guy-with-hammers-fancy-gif-17832892536946685423

[bronze needle]

fist of stalin type shi

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-oh-no-gameplay-video-game-cj-gif-17762166

[bronze needle]

are we deadahh twin 💔 🙏

[opaque zinc]

Nevermind it got deleted

Good

[misty fossil]

Lol

[bronze needle]

lmao

[exotic bridge]

not even all of it there's another div

just straight artillery

[opaque zinc]

Why not

[exotic bridge]

no there's 4

[bronze needle]

do mods really look at a chat all day waiting for a bad msg to get deleted

[misty fossil]

Yeah

[bronze needle]

four arty divs fr?

[misty fossil]

Why

[opaque zinc]

Every time I’ve been a mod in a server I just like

[exotic bridge]

yeah

[opaque zinc]

Idk

Yeah idk

[bronze needle]

holy chud life

[exotic bridge]

I want to send a meme gif about discord mods but I'm not risking it

[heavy vigil]

usually it takes longer

[bronze needle]

high risk, high reward twin

do it

do it

do it

[heavy vigil]

depends on which mod is on really

[bronze needle]

fym it takes longer

[exotic bridge]

nah bro I got banned for 4 months I learnt my lesson I REALLY don't wanna mess up my last chance

[heavy vigil]

to delete scam posts

[bronze needle]

bruh

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-it-out-dude-gif-7309611

[bronze needle]

it cant be THAT bad really?

[exotic bridge]

I'm good with behaving

[bronze needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lie-lie-detector

[exotic bridge]

I said something I really should've thought about before sending it

it was pretty bad

before you say anything NO it wasn't a slur

[untold cove]

it was a slur

[bronze needle]

the fuh did u say then

[exotic bridge]

you weren't even there

[trim pike]

It was worse

[bronze needle]

how do u get banned without any slurs

[trim pike]

Lets not discuss it

[bronze needle]

:(

[exotic bridge]

doesn't matter let's just forget about it

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/elrond-i-was-there-gif-10950832

[bronze needle]

i REALLY want to know now bro

[exotic bridge]

I can tell you privately but not here

[bronze needle]

legit reading the server last messages since 5 years ago just to find out

[exotic bridge]

I REALLY don't wanna get banned again I love this place

what else is gonna help me make good divs?

[trim pike]

Lets not

[untold cove]

what div u gonna build

[trim pike]

[heavy vigil]

you wouldnt find it anyway

so dw about it

just leave it be

[bronze needle]

yeah having 4 different arty divs , you might need some help

[bronze needle]

damn it

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExN3dwZmw2czQ3c2pkb21mZWIzNHlxZzRzM3UwYW40eGtsc2s0ZmNieSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/sHokl2HZpdkP54CLIR/giphy.gif

[exotic bridge]

I'm playing millenium dawn rn I'm asking the pros in their server

[exotic bridge]

I'm never using them genuinely pre-made div

[untold cove]

what i do with netherlands every germany playthrough

[bronze needle]

lmao bro what

did discord just swallow my img

there u go

2 mins with no new messages

dead server

[exotic bridge]

it's not dead

[wide osprey]

new hoi4 jan mayen ruler

[grave sonnet]

Yes it's a dlc

[true oar]

Oh my organization

[grave sonnet]

Org doesn't matter if you can deorg the other division quicker

I killed 30 stacked divs with 2 tank divs that had 20~ org

[true oar]

Lie

[grave sonnet]

Not a lie

Germans just suck

[bronze needle]

what is org for

[grave sonnet]

And my CAS killed them

[bronze needle]

just for attacks?

[grave sonnet]

Just stack soft attack bonuses

Brutal

[grave sonnet]

Org = organisation

[bronze needle]

ye i know bro

but it just to get better stats or sum like that

[grave sonnet]

If you can stack crazy attack org doesn't matter

Plus with CAS damage

And all the other factors and Bonuses

[bronze needle]

damn

[grave sonnet]

And also Reinforce memeing

[bronze needle]

what is dat

[grave sonnet]

Deorging a Divisions quicker than they can reinforce the tile making All the divs retreat

[bronze needle]

ohhhhhh

[marble ore]

bro

i can only get pass poland, ukraine, belarus, moldova, transnistria, lithuania, estonia, and latvia before losing to USSR

[bronze needle]

are logi support units really useful or they are straight up useless

[opaque zinc]

Cas isn’t as important without dlc

[opaque zinc]

You can just say Moldova

You don’t have to say transistria

It’s a part of Moldova

You just

Gotta stay up to date

Keep your weapons up to date

Make good tanks

Have a good Air Force

Make good divisions

[grave sonnet]

I have DLC brotato chip

[opaque zinc]

Wow

I was uh

Bad

Why 8??? And why’d I spam so many divisons

Divisions

And those divisions seem genuinely horrible

Especially with the path I took

You get crazy entrenchment

I could’ve done so much better

💔

[round pivot]

probably got CAS to death

and entrenchment is kina useless when the ai just makes intel networks in u

[opaque zinc]

Yeah I didn’t use anti air

[opaque zinc]

Well no I played it again

I beat Germany easily

I got like 70 percent entrenchment

[grave sonnet]

True if you wanna defend just go behind a river and the -60% attack kills their attac

[opaque zinc]

That path for the Netherlands is so op

[real flame]

would be cool if there was an offical ranked system for MP so that newbies don't get stomped all the time, and cheaters couldn't game the system

like a blind pick match or somthing

[round pivot]

paradox does not care about mp like at all

[opaque zinc]

Mp just seems stressful

[tiny iris]

It's fun

[opaque zinc]

And I usually don’t have the time to just sit down for three hours straight

[grave sonnet]

Depends on the person

[tiny iris]

Better to fight agianst players than the AI

[grave sonnet]

But I don't have time

[exotic bridge]

yeah it's not good at all

[real flame]

I think MP has the opportunity to expand the game to competitive gaming.

[round pivot]

its fun sometimes

[exotic bridge]

is this good supply guys?

[opaque zinc]

Millenium dawn

[grave sonnet]

Yes the more red the better

[exotic bridge]

indeed it is

[exotic bridge]

aight bet

[real flame]

think about this, game modes like MP have characteristics of over MP games of high toxicity and or bad behavior, so PDX really dosn't want to police there own games gameplay lol

Im thinking about Riot games here

[round pivot]

apart from doing something about the cheaters who crash lobbies and stuff paradox shouldnt do anything else

no one wants like chat filters or anything

[real flame]

League of Legends moba is solely online so the company has to find ways to manage player behavior

[grave sonnet]

I don't get where's the fun in crashing lobbies 💔

[real flame]

using exploits or cheats, or what? how do they crash a lobby?

[round pivot]

cuz its funny to watch people to build up for 4 hours only to crash the lobby and corrupt the autosave, making the last 4 hours wasted i guess

[grave sonnet]

Total Degen behaviour

[real flame]

allowing in game console in MP games is suspicious to me idk why

[round pivot]

its paradox' fault tho since they cant or wont implement any kind of countermeasure for this stuff

[real flame]

generally its by design the game is generally unbalance between majors and minor powers, I am not saying to make everyone same strength but maybe some other way to make playing a minor influential in MP and make it so that in matchmaking system a ranking system could detect who should play a major to balance the game as a whole

[heavy vigil]

theres issues with it, major ones

theyre looking into it but the source code got leaked/revealed sometime 2018? as well

[heavy vigil]

unequal power/odds are what makes a game fun imo

[real flame]

but good player on a major and the game is over for the other side if they are on weakside

it is a skill based game

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[real flame]

more over multiplayer games should be hosted by the game server not a host player

[heavy vigil]

thats just how it is

but also how it should be

player skill wont be equal

[bronze needle]

what is an mp game

[real flame]

multiplayer

[bronze needle]

oh

[misty fossil]

my pony game

[exotic bridge]

russian efficiency🥀

I'm gonna need to fix this real soon

railways shouldn't take 8 years

imagine how long wars would go on for

[vital mirage]

how to drop nuke ?

[untold cove]

"comrade, when will the train be here"
"when railroad is built, comrade"
"when will railroad be built comrade"
"when we invent the train, comrade"

[exotic bridge]

american industrial revolutionists would CRY seeing this

[leaden wraith]

can confirm novorossiysk is a shit hole

[quiet yacht]

A DLC adding an economy when

[exotic bridge]

took them 35 years nation wide this is 8 years for the singular ukrainian border

this is awful

oh my lord 2000s russian economy was so bad I just started the game

[untold cove]

it was correct that degree owners would migrate to nearby nations to involve in different career paths

this was including but not limited to selling baggage and oldest profession

[exotic bridge]

well that's convenient

we got a wittness

but imagine how much worse it was

[leaden wraith]

oh dear

i wasnt even born to make it that much worse

so with me in 2004 it would be even worse

[untold cove]

bro is the 1 population of novorossiysk

[leaden wraith]

ts is the type of public transport here

took this a couple of days ago

[untold cove]

oh we have these in Turkiye too

not the snow tho

[leaden wraith]

yea but the window is cooked so hard

krasnodar krai is the first region i immediately max out in millennium dawn all the time

i am a kuban patriot

[grave sonnet]

Back seats da best

[exotic bridge]

I did the math even reversing the -20% effeciency it'd still take 6.6 years to finish the railroads

[grave sonnet]

Same in Bosnia

[leaden wraith]

accurate oligarch corruption model, nice

[exotic bridge]

if I can get a +40% building speed it'd still take 5 years

[untold cove]

bro wtf are you building

[misty fossil]

russia is literally falling apart bro

[untold cove]

a whole ahh new underground tunnel

[exotic bridge]

I understand why russia is awful with supplies

they can't build ANYTHING

[leaden wraith]

and if we can build anything it would take like 5 quadrillion rubles

[grave sonnet]

Everything is falling apart

[exotic bridge]

wait a minute I have trucks

[misty fossil]

not surprised

[leaden wraith]

plot twist: 5% reliability

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-patrick-star-jolly-happy-rainbow-and-sunshine-gif-11154688262827409004

problem solved

[exotic bridge]

reliability isn't an issue if you have 22 thousand of them

[leaden wraith]

it is an issue when you build 1 every decade

[static creek]

I'm so pissed off

I wait for a game, only to be kicked

[grave sonnet]

👍🏻

[exotic bridge]

problem solved guys

this should last at least 6 months

[cursive oxide]

i have the bug that i cant press the war icon help

[untold cove]

(which are from 1940s and will be dead in their tracks after 500 meters of driving)

[leaden wraith]

out of my 5300+ hours only like 20 of them is in multiplayer

[exotic bridge]

turn it off and on again

[static creek]

it's in multiplayer discord

[leaden wraith]

oh thats even worse

[grave sonnet]

Mp is buns

[leaden wraith]

i only expected public mp games to have ts

if its also in private ones mp is cooked

[static creek]

@inland ruin was the one who kicked me

[inland ruin]

yea mega lag

[leaden wraith]

calling out like that is crazy

[exotic bridge]

I need to win ukraine really fast

[royal obsidian]

t

[static creek]

maybe don't set the game to x4 at the start tard

[leaden wraith]

t

[exotic bridge]

the pre-designs are SO BAD

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[exotic bridge]

like what is this

[leaden wraith]

thats what she he said

[exotic bridge]

yeah but the difference is I'm an american who knows what logistics is and miles and miles of a convoy isn't a good idea

[leaden wraith]

you'll only make it worse if you try to convert russia to imperial units

[exotic bridge]

I know how to use metric

[leaden wraith]

a russian drunkard and units of measurement already dont go well together

let alone imperial units