hoi4-general

[sudden thistle]

Beginner mistake

[frank estuary]

Does the old "one-artillery battalion division" trick help with the Japanese civil war?

[whole wedge]

only thing they had for them was their leader which gave 20% surrender progress

[pine shale]

best germany paratrooper template?

[prisma steppe]

dont they get a buff through their military foci for surrender progress?

[pine shale]

can any1 teach me how do i use paratroopers

[whole wedge]

i dont know man i just click, my troop moves, i win, i upgrade template, and move on

[vague abyss]

hopefully next year they add some cold war content, love to see an extended tech and communist civilwars in asia and south america etc

gulp holy click

first encirclement

[atomic grove]

i dont think they will unfortunately

hoi4 was designed to be a ww2 game

[sudden thistle]

How do u only have 203 factories 😭

[vague abyss]

mmmm infastructure

[sudden thistle]

No esports Alta

[pine shale]

why cant i paratroop

[vague abyss]

air

[sudden thistle]

Put transports planes in a airport closest to where u want to land

Minimum 50 planes

Then put paratroopers in the same tile as that airport

Do the paradrop order, click that airport, then click target

[pine shale]

i did

ty i fixed

uk is so hard to beat

bro i have 75 planes transport

[lapis onyx]

I cant seem to make a air wing of exiles despite the exiles having the manpower?

[lapis onyx]

You need 100 per div usually

[pine shale]

bruh

impolssible to beat uk literlaly impossible

[lapis onyx]

No?

[pine shale]

yes

[lapis onyx]

I usually beat them easily

[pine shale]

how

[lapis onyx]

And im on a shitter of a pc that by 41 starts crashing

[lapis onyx]

Blowing up any naval alinvasi9n attempts with bombers having a decent navy that isnt just subs

Or just light cruisers

[wet orbit]

does anyone play vanilla past 1945

[lapis onyx]

Had a itsly game go past that

[pine shale]

i cant do anything

[wet orbit]

i tried playing an italy game rn and i got it to go until 1949

and lowkey i could definitely beat the us, if it werent for the god awful speed late game goes

[lapis onyx]

Bull shit put your navy in convoy strike i gurantee you the airl still has bad early game ships

[lapis onyx]

Try being ona. Much crappier pc

[wet orbit]

eat spain and steal its navy/s

[lapis onyx]

I have to speedrun the game

[pine shale]

i need naval supremacy for naval invasion

[lapis onyx]

I never said you invade

You surround them

[pine shale]

bro then how do i beat the

[lapis onyx]

Sometimes i like to mine them

[wet orbit]

eat spain and steal navy

[lapis onyx]

You gradually wear down their

[copper linden]

how do i fix these numbers?

[wet orbit]

that kinda gives you a better navy

[lapis onyx]

Attempts to naval invade YOU

Troops go down

[pine shale]

they never do

[lapis onyx]

Then time to start mak8ng super naval bombers as i call them

Ie med aircracft

[bronze needle]

The dlc's are monthly subscriptons or Just one pay and keep it

Holy shi tf did i say

[craggy trail]

You allocate more military factories to build Close air Support

[lapis onyx]

And if you have kept up to date with your naval tech

You should have at least ONE decent fleet not made of early ships

[wet orbit]

factory

[pine shale]

navy in this game is trash like divison designer

[wet orbit]

light cruiser spam

[lapis onyx]

I hold 0 shits for that strat

[pine shale]

this game is literally just pain

[copper linden]

sorry but what does allocate mean?

[wet orbit]

i mean if you wanna go meta its a viable option

but i like doing funny special projects

[craggy trail]

Put more military factories to build close air support

[lapis onyx]

Tbf the torpedo cruisers are funni

Like what makes them any different lol

[wet orbit]

i tried spamming escort carriers lol

[lapis onyx]

Ah the us strategy

[wet orbit]

though its annoying escort carriers are considered capitals

[lapis onyx]

I wish you could make escort destroyers

[pine shale]

this game has 99% bs mechanics

[copper linden]

thanks

[wet orbit]

irl they were very cheap so you should have the ability to assign 10 or even 15 dockyards

[lapis onyx]

Ye

[wet orbit]

but paradox decided to limit it to only 5

[lapis onyx]

Meanwhile rn they are considering bringing them back

Like enterprise sized escort carriers

To help out with the big boys getting a break

They would be cheaper to keep in the field longer

Instead of ya know

The complete overkill

Of the us super carriers we have

[wet orbit]

theyre just scared of China's ability to shit out ships

[lapis onyx]

Notnexcatly

[runic spoke]

did they change guarantees

[wet orbit]

also i havent heard of this yet, do you have a source?

[runic spoke]

france and uk are guaranteeing ppl around me with 13 WT and ive only caused 2 wt myself so far

[lapis onyx]

Thebsuper carriers are badically bring worked to death

[runic spoke]

is there no longer a 25 limit

[lapis onyx]

Read it somewhere a few months back so no

[lapis onyx]

What did you do

[wet orbit]

is it different from amphibious landing ships?

[lapis onyx]

As i said

[runic spoke]

got wargoal on estonia via focus and france + uk immediately guaranteed at only 12 WT (i caused only 1% so far from annexing lith)

[opal nymph]

Should be 15 I think

New faction mechanics

[runic spoke]

i thought itd be smth with this

thanks

[opal nymph]

Who knows, maybe it is 10

[runic spoke]

i wish they at least kept it where you need to make at least 10 world tension for ai to care abt you

these changes are lowkey annoying

[opal current]

have any of you played hoi4 like this?

[lapis onyx]

My pc would implode

[opal nymph]

Kind of

[wary wigeon]

You just fragmented those majors bro I bet my CPU would reach the sun's temperature

[wet orbit]

who gave europe the hre treatment

[fair compass]

i can buy eiher graveyard of empires or trial of allegience.. should i buy one of them or just save up for NCNS

[opal current]

my is at 60-73 celsius 💀 cpu go brrrr

[fair compass]

cancer

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[opal current]

africa looks so bad

[grave sonnet]

Yes I played mustard coloured Germany

[inland copper]

holy, grinding kaiserreduxx as sweden, at war with the entirety of europe plus russia and im lwk winning

[grave sonnet]

(Fascist German Volga)

[inland copper]

is this eu5?

[spring relic]

crazy fleet

302

[inland copper]

this what i got going rn

[grave sonnet]

IKEA fleet unbeatable

[spring relic]

you can win with only 4 battleships and screens btw

[inland copper]

lol

bruh i cant integrate finland which is funky ngl

and karelia (even though i had a decision earlier)

[spring relic]

where did you get fuel

300 ships is gon eat fuel

[inland copper]

azerbaijan

i somehow have a land route through ukraine

im funding the entire azerbajaini economy

[wet orbit]

did you build this yourself?

might do a kaiserredux run, im really interested in navy currently

[inland copper]

Nope😂

Stole it from germany

And one of their puppet allies

[wet orbit]

understandable lol

[inland copper]

I was able to fry germany super early cuz the third internationale + ukraine were at war with them

And i got a lot of war score

Built some op ahh division 25 width with like 150 soft attack in 1938

Super fun mod though, my first time playing alone and im enjoying it (sweden is kinda op with the swedish empire path)

Only 28m core pop but still destroys everyone

[lethal ether]

am i the only one that doesnt like how peacedeals function at all? i dont think that germany would fully annex ussr for example if they won irl

i wish there was a mod for this

[wet orbit]

player led was your best bet for years

[frigid blade]

Yea i get that, I think the ai is a bit unreasonable in them

[wet orbit]

they should just program it to force germany to set up a reichskommisariat

[lethal ether]

sure but what if you are not involved in that war?

[wet orbit]

like how they have the benelux and some eastern countries like ukraine be right now

[lethal ether]

its not like theyre going to have the resources to do that with all of the ussr realistically speaking, you cant puppet a country as big as the ussr

maybe establish a few reichskommisariats and then program for like an event where the ussr colapses into civil war

and fractures

[wet orbit]

.

[smoky burrow]

hi

[wet orbit]

have a komissariat for the mainland area around moscow

then one for the caucases and such

maybe one for siberia, though id argue that the germans would rather leave siberia alone

[lethal ether]

the problem is the ai gets too greedy in the peacedeal and the country which lost completely ceases to exist anymore which is very unrealistic in my opinion

imagine a country like romania puppets half of the ussr

seems very realistic doesnt it?

[wet orbit]

i mean again, they hsould just program germany to split the ussr into several komissariats

[lethal ether]

not the whole of it though

some should be left alone

like siberia

they should limit the amount of points you get in peace confrences so you dont have enough to take it all

[wet orbit]

.

[lethal ether]

yeah

thats just an example

[wet orbit]

but then again, i could see the germans appointing several officials to manage russian puppets themselves

[lethal ether]

i dont think you can manage 200 million people without them revolting

they wouldnt have the manpower required for it

[wet orbit]

it really depends on the people who were occupying

it boils down to many factors

[lethal ether]

its just extremely unrealistic for a country as big as the ussr to cease existing completely after one lost war

i dont think we ever see this throughout history

[wet orbit]

i mean i agree yeah but

im just grateful they eat everything so my cpu can take a break from computing 5 more different countries

[lethal ether]

its kind of an ache to look at

(got this ss from reddit)

[wet orbit]

meh its the same when theres 7 different random states in russia

[lethal ether]

you should NOT be able to do that

[inland copper]

Blud think he a part of the team

[wet orbit]

ehem looking at you md

[lethal ether]

?

[wet orbit]

this is just USA TNO but with russia lmao

[inland copper]

Wtf is vichy doing in siberia

[lethal ether]

no idea

[wet orbit]

anyways i agree with you, its unrealistic and i think they do need to do something about germany occupying all of russia like that

[lethal ether]

maybe they will!

[wet orbit]

but i just hope they dont overbloat the amount of puppets they do add

[inland copper]

In my opinion Russia shouldn’t be occupied by the entirety of Germany. It should be split in into little states like that which Reichkommisariat Moscow Siberia caucuses and so on because if you think about it Soviet Union is really just a big mashup of a bunch of little “” autonomous states.

Made by voice to text

[wet orbit]

id just have a singular federalist puppet

[inland copper]

I wouldnt personally

[wet orbit]

and have like a system where you can manage territories and treat those territories like different states with autonomy

[inland copper]

So just puppets

[wet orbit]

though i have a feeling if they ever do it, theyll just make it another chinqa

[inland copper]

It would be like a modern china

[wet orbit]

guys i just want to save on my cpu power okay

[inland copper]

New cpu brotein

How u gon play gta6

How am I gonna play it😭

[wet orbit]

i dont want a dozen random cyrillic puppet states propping up in siberia late game when my cpu is already having trouble renderig shit as it is currently

[wet orbit]

no like, if paradox ever decides to do something about germany annexing the ussr

i have a feeling theyll just make it look like how china is in the game

[wet orbit]

i like my Ryzen 5 3600 alot thank you very much

[inland copper]

Holy

[wet orbit]

cpu mark ups are really high in my place so I cant afford to buy new parts without spending an additional 20% of its original price

actually computer parts in general have really high mark ups here

[inland copper]

where u from

i got so blessed ngl upgrading 2 years ago

i got 32gb ram for like 70 eurr, which last i checked nowadays is like booking a vacation to Athens

what am i meant to do here

naval invasion and encircle them

1000iq

[untold cove]

why we only produce mp43s, mp40s and karabiner 98ks in the game

i wanna see g43s and mgs as well 🙁

[sudden thistle]

Yeah sure!

U got this bro

[inland copper]

i could naval invade the uk lol

[cinder parrot]

Does the US join the allies when a non axis Japan attacks them

[winged field]

yes

they might not join if japan doesnt attack at all

especialy like pihlipines

[cinder parrot]

That’s actually kinda bullshit

Like I usually crush the allies powers before 1940

[winged field]

It is xD

[terse skiff]

us will join when japan attacks both allies and usa

[winged field]

Then you don't really need to worry about it

[cinder parrot]

I genuinely do plan to naval invade Japan as Germany sometime and puppet them to see if that prevents Pearl Harbor

[terse skiff]

japan goes to war with the owner of the provinces, not specific tags

[cinder parrot]

So I just leave the Japanese alone and let the US nuke them twice and everything’s good

[terse skiff]

or just cap usa in 1940 and then cap japan in 1941

[cinder parrot]

Capping the US would be literal hell

Because i often don’t do Barbarossa

[terse skiff]

if you already capped allies you can just invade from canada

[cinder parrot]

Canada either becomes Fascist Britain’s land or I puppet them

Which one

[terse skiff]

I would just own it directly but you can puppet it i guess

[cinder parrot]

Yeah

Fascist Britain already stays enormous

[clever shuttle]

how do i get proxmimty fuze?

anyone knows?

[copper sluice]

In the naval facility

[edgy forge]

sup guys

i just wonder if they add achievment for hungary ,,home sweet home" when they conquer the mongols

[cinder parrot]

Didn’t the Hungarians originate in the Urals, not Mongolia?

[edgy forge]

only that as a tribe they extended as far as Mongolia

from ural

[sly venture]

they lost all the good supply hubs its over

[lapis onyx]

So uh something really weird happened to my save

Basically from the single second i get tonglance at it it looks like the whole map was reset

[opal current]

doing a bit "expansion"

[inland copper]

now this is a proper empire (ignore the red, i think i upset them by going to limited exports as sweden)

[gritty leaf]

Can you not get Mexico as usa anymore without Allies attacking or did I wait too long? Im now at war with the allies as usa

its apr 1940

am I supposed to attack before world tension is 100?

[lapis onyx]

i find it funny how the ai can break the join factionrules

[sudden thistle]

Couldn’t u just join the allies first

[lapis onyx]

ie one can have a tension limit of like 50

[sudden thistle]

Good job (on now having all dlc)

[lapis onyx]

and itll still be able to join whoever

[lapis onyx]

unfortunatly one of my saves seems to be borked

[gritty leaf]

join allies THEN war? I guess thats a good point

[lapis onyx]

loading causes a crasha nd the last successful load looked like it reset the map to default borders

[gritty leaf]

kinda wanted to annex before hand

[sudden thistle]

Indeed

[gritty leaf]

I feel like every playthrough though I didnt need to do this, did it change?

[sly venture]

NOOOO FRANCE I CAN SAVE YOU HOLD THE LINE

[untold cove]

bruh they striked through maginot

major L for the french army

[twin terrace]

whats with the holy scandinavian empire tho

[sly venture]

this is a ww1 mod

[untold cove]

my apologies then

[sudden thistle]

Maginot doesn’t even exist in that mod

[sudden thistle]

France either dies extremely quickly or Germany dies extremely quickly

[undone vale]

😭 ❓ 15k??

[untold cove]

son

[grave sonnet]

Great war mod is crazy

Could have been great

[sly venture]

was a bit busy taking all of europe and africa

[sudden thistle]

I think he meant it’s off Germany winning ww1

[sly venture]

and forgot about france

[sudden thistle]

since it’s Kaiserredux

[grave sonnet]

Oh shitt

Mb

Thought he meant it was ww1

If it's Kaiserredux

Yeah it's good

[lapis onyx]

am i allowed to post a save file? trying to figure out what keeps causing my game to crash

when i load the save

[supple halo]

Does anyone know what ideology % you need to get the “Communism on the Rise” decisions for the referendum?

[bronze glade]

when i was playing ww1 germany and france always had stalemate

[sudden thistle]

That’s what WW1 is

Except the east

The east is always like that

[lapis onyx]

the east was zombies

[sly venture]

dw france i actually am competent and have decent tanks

[unkempt orchid]

what this

🤔

[sly venture]

GIVE ME A BREAK

bro is losing to the worst tank template

[inner jewel]

someone give me an achievement to do

[void canyon]

macau my day

[inner jewel]

sure

[fair compass]

i can afford like 2 hoi4 dlcs rn, aka graveyard of empires and trial of alliegence

[inner jewel]

get the subscription for a month or more, it's pretty cheap and you get all dlcs

[fair compass]

i wanna permanently own them though

[inner jewel]

sure then do that

[leaden mulch]

not the worst tanks I've seen

[sly venture]

I mostly made them cause I needed some cheap tank template to take out Germany fast

I was distracted on everything else and forgot about taking out Germany

France was at like 80% capitulation

Kaiserredux overall my favorite mod

[trim plover]

Hey is there anyone who would like to play a campaign with me for the sake of rp and actual politics instead of blob slop?

[steel idol]

what country

[grave sonnet]

I wonder

[steel idol]

where are u from?

u

not me

[grave sonnet]

Yeah bro I'm talking about myself

It's pretty obvious where I am from

Considering that you can see my username

[steel idol]

not rlly

what is ba

[grave sonnet]

Bosnia

[steel idol]

aj igrat snama

[molten forge]

whats the best portugal path for like world conquest

[grave sonnet]

Can't (English only server if I speak any other language I'm cooked and I'm on my second warning)

[molten forge]

you ever played portugal

[grave sonnet]

Yeah Macau my day

[grave sonnet]

Portgual Brazil

[steel idol]

why?

[grave sonnet]

I have final tests

[molten forge]

not the chinese expanding one?

[grave sonnet]

They hitting hard

[steel idol]

oh okay my last test was today

[grave sonnet]

Yeah bro my ones aren't even ending

I have a final Latin test

Next week

And more

[vapid cradle]

why cant i add flamethrower tank sup, i think my shits glitched

[grave sonnet]

1. Did you make flame tanks

[vapid cradle]

yh

[grave sonnet]

Did you class them as Flame tanks

Huh

Yeah you done glitched smth

[vapid cradle]

how do i unlock armored sup vehicles

[carmine spindle]

by researching tech

but first you need to research it in the special facility

[sudden thistle]

My final for English is hand writing an entire unique story

My hand will be DEAD

[grave sonnet]

I got Latin and Practical Medicine I gotta do needles and more

[grave sonnet]

If I accidentally stab myself with a needle I will be DEAD

[sudden thistle]

Remind me to never go to a medical establishment in the Balkans

I need to live to see gta6

[grave sonnet]

Yeah I advise to stay away

[grave sonnet]

True

[maiden bolt]

how many hours u guys got on hoi4 mines is 1,740 hours

[steel idol]

any1 balkan?

[grizzled yarrow]

The liberator of europe

[fading cairn]

"Liberator" 😭

[grizzled yarrow]

Well theyr all free countries except germany
Because in the end democracy is freedom
Communism is tyranny.

[polar beacon]

love hoi modding community just for something like this

[silk furnace]

meta

[fading cairn]

I downloaded the 1/1000 a day chance to get jumpscared by withered foxy

Guess how many times i got jumpscared in 10 days

[silk furnace]

0

[fading cairn]

3

[karmic viper]

a

[karmic viper]

W

[fading cairn]

Mf gave me a heart attack

[stoic flame]

heary

[grizzled yarrow]

Only japan and communist china stand in the way of democracy

Then i go against the allies cuz im russia afterall

Gotta replace democracy with uhhh cooler democracy

[fair compass]

waht is a good armored car template for GW:R

[copper linden]

what is the most effective medium tank templare for early game

[silk furnace]

singleplayer?

[karmic viper]

a

[copper linden]

yeah

[feral spear]

yo

how do I convert

a specific piece of equipment

I was meaning to have been making heavy spgs and tds the entire game

I accidentally forgot to set my spg role as artillery

How do I convert my heavy tanks into spgs without converting my tds 😬

wait dont even bother answering I figured it out

oh my

[west jungle]

Holy mog

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-look-the-other-way-look-away-awkward-weird-gif-17246188

[inland copper]

this is why we hoi

i would sacrifice consumer goods to expand ikea

[fickle thicket]

average soviet disaster save

[untold cove]

bruh that nation is not so developed

[vague abyss]

we need more music

that will solve it

[fickle thicket]

average mass mob soviet disaster save:

[dire trellis]

Mexico will be the strongwst country in the new dlc

[dire trellis]

Massmob is 50 50

Either you die or steamroll

[vague abyss]

u know hos the soviets had troops behind german lines usually west of moscow during the offensives

i feel like that rn

[fickle thicket]

its jan 42 how do u die this quick

[vague abyss]

i have 5000 hours im using AI mods

[fickle thicket]

oh

sheeps mod?

[silk furnace]

i find sheeps rly easy

but even being able to make ai thats this advanced is crazy tbh

[silk furnace]

do u know anything harder than sheeps?

[vague abyss]

moscow is under defence

[silk furnace]

air soviets is so tuff

[idle jetty]

Why is france attacking me

Never play as germany

France will attack u every change they get

[dire trellis]

Mexico finna have maxed generals in 1937

[undone veldt]

Maybe garrison the border😭

[idle jetty]

What that

[dire trellis]

Thats crazy gng

[undone veldt]

😭🙏

I played a game as Germany yesterday and capped the French in like a few weeks

[dire trellis]

Gernany easy asf

Esp after u kill the uk

[undone veldt]

Fr

[silk furnace]

especially since gotter

[undone veldt]

I dont understand how someone can struggle with it

[dire trellis]

The new dlc will be peak

Did u see the new diary

[undone veldt]

Nah

Im to lazy to look at it

[dire trellis]

U can level up generals with xp

[silk furnace]

it might be a sneaky cas buff like a couple months ago

[undone veldt]

I wait till it releases and I watch sum on it to see if its good

[silk furnace]

75 Air attack is mental

17w soviet inf being meta is crazy

[dire trellis]

Oh fah mb i got a wrong information

[undone veldt]

I played road to 56 yesterday and Luxembourg just ended themselves

[silk furnace]

lol

advanced meta btw

[twin terrace]

hello comrades anyone wanna join my non hist hoi4 game?

[vague abyss]

brr

[patent thistle]

germany unified in 1703 (with denmark-norway being my puppet)

[quiet galleon]

whats id

[untold cove]

things went a little funny way

i am now guard of the baltics and scandavian

[twin terrace]

whats going on in holy scandinavian empire XD :)

[untold cove]

it is a funny thing you can do as fascist estonia

[quiet galleon]

@untold cove

@untold cove

@untold cove

[untold cove]

step 1: increase fascist popularity in finland
step 2: drive them into a civil war
step 3: offer them to unite with you
step 4: profit

[quiet galleon]

@untold cove

[twin terrace]

step 5: post on reddit

[untold cove]

feel free to ping doesnt mean feel free to spam

[quiet galleon]

@untold cove

sorry lad

i just wanted to ask

something

[untold cove]

go on

[twin terrace]

@untold cove

[patent thistle]

welp, dont mind if i do ; )

[twin terrace]

is this the molotov ribbetropp pact in the 1700s?!?!?!

[quiet galleon]

lad u dont gotta

do this

this isnt gonna make people join ur

thing

[patent thistle]

lets ignore that most of the stuff i would get i already own lmao

[twin terrace]

ye

[untold cove]

how can i help

[twin terrace]

join 90286254835418137

[untold cove]

i dont play multiplayer

yall have fun

[inland copper]

holy cas dmg

still dont get why i cant say the f word in hoi4 chats lmao

[graceful grove]

👀

[patent thistle]

anyways time to declear germany unified

[dull oak]

can someone rate my poetry of Constantinople 🥺

[untold cove]

sure, shoot

[dull oak]

idk i can send here i’ll dm

[untold cove]

send it in #off-topic

[uncut pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pull-the-trigger-fire-pistol-bullet-shoot-gif-14079588

[dull oak]

i sent in off topic

[fair compass]

💀

not even modded btw

[graceful grove]

Lol

[untold cove]

bro conquered a village 😭 🙏

[fair compass]

first game as iraq going good so far

[untold cove]

why not al muthanna iraq

[fair compass]

i dont know what is good

and what is ass

[untold cove]

i see kurds are independent as well

[fair compass]

yeah cuz the USSR invaded turkey

randomly btw

[untold cove]

fascist paths are always good because

• extra manpower
• easier to justify war goals
• funny flags

[fair compass]

i checked their focus

it said NOTHING about invading turkey

so they just

did that via decision

[untold cove]

kind of strange, montreaux convention should end in favor of Turkey in almost all cases

i had a ton of Turkey playthroughs and not a single Soviet invasion

[fair compass]

turkey kinda fell quickly

[untold cove]

it is the soviets after all

they never had a chance

farewell, motherland

[fair compass]

im lsitening to michael jackson while invading saudi arabia, it feels weird as normally i listen to military music while playing hoi4

[untold cove]

sonion

[graceful grove]

Invading Turkey as Soviet will always be fun
They can’t fight back but They don’t last short lol

[fair compass]

also im pretty sure

[untold cove]

i usually listen to phonk if im playing a major nation

kind of corny but i like it

[fair compass]

playing fascist iraq while instantly give the UK a wargoal on you

atleast from what ive seen

[untold cove]

yes, iirc uk will declare war on any colony that goes fascist

canada, australia etc.

[fair compass]

im not even a colony 💀

im legit just held together by a treaty i believe

[untold cove]

you are, you just dont know it yet.

[fair compass]

i gotta see someone do a world conquest as carpo-ukraine

[ivory crypt]

what can carpo Ukraine even do

form Ukraine or smth?

[fair compass]

nothing they get the generic tree in the vanilla

but get the ukranian tree in RT56

[ivory crypt]

surprised people still talk about rt56 in 2026

[ivory crypt]

^now im curious, can they?

[fair compass]

i think its being talked more knowing that the new DLC is just

the czech tree

[uncut pollen]

U sure?

[fair compass]

from RT56

[uncut pollen]

Read the rules

[karmic viper]

WTF HAPPENED

[untold cove]

boy, playing estonia is funnier than i expected

[fair compass]

china became too strong yo 😭

[karmic viper]

I LOOKED AWAY FOR A COUPLE MINUTES

AND CHINA HAS JAPAN

[graceful grove]

LOL

Did Genghis Khan comeback from death

[ripe slate]

Wdym its not

[fair compass]

it isnt..?

[ripe slate]

We're Road to 56 devs that made it but we didnt take anything from Road

[fair compass]

i thought yall jsut

copy and pasted it into vanilla

[ripe slate]

Nah

[fair compass]

and called it a dlc

[fair compass]

-# why no slovakia focus tho qwq

[ripe slate]

the devs even did some programming for us that a mod could never achieve

and really nice art and music from external studios that mods would probably never match

[fair compass]

oh

[graceful grove]

Is it outdated?

[patent thistle]

i call this a fair partition am i right boys? (austria didnt do shit so they dont deserve shit)

[terse skiff]

some of the rt56 ideas are in the base game now

[ripe slate]

No

[opal nymph]

R56 is one of the mods of all time

Both feature bloated, but also great for the features it has

The German alt history rework was actually quite nice

[bronze glade]

chat

what is the hardest country to play in the ww1 redux

[lost dawn]

Still no Lichtenstein....

No San Marino

[fading cairn]

Probably portugal

Idk

[lost dawn]

Luxembourg probably

[inland copper]

Sweden reigns supreme (ignore me balkanizing europe)

[steel idol]

any1 balkan?

[fading cairn]

Im gonna be schizo enough to make this schizo scenario an actual hoi4 mod

[opal nymph]

What if I say yes

[fading cairn]

Brother shut up

[steel idol]

why are yall 24 7 in this chat

s

[fading cairn]

Now thats

Offensive

[steel idol]

what?

[fading cairn]

I screenshotted it

[opal nymph]

Oh snappers

[steel idol]

good boy

[lost dawn]

We know what you posted.

[steel idol]

do i care?

[opal nymph]

True balkaner

[fading cairn]

<@&846894118219022336>

[inland copper]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-gif-9303829863785054258

[lost dawn]

🇮🇱

[steel idol]

if i ge banned ima just make alt

[opal nymph]

Well, we will know who you are

Because you say the same thing over and over again

[steel idol]

and?

any1 balkan?

[opal nymph]

It will be like that one Simpsons meme

Mods throw you out and you come back in from the backdoor

[fading cairn]

Because you will still spam any1 balkan like an idiot

This isnt a server for finding balkan people

[inland copper]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-if-you-love-baltic-states-the-baltic-states-lithuania-latvia-gif-1058455762982521663

[opal nymph]

I do have to ask where in the balkans you are from

[steel idol]

then what is it ?

[opal nymph]

My bets Serbia

[inland copper]

im saying bosnia

[fading cairn]

A hoi4 server

[lost dawn]

I have no love for the Baltic states.

[opal nymph]

Maybe Turkey

[inland copper]

who are you

[steel idol]

nah i hate them

[inland copper]

where u from

[steel idol]

croatian

[inland copper]

@lost dawn and what did they do to you

[lost dawn]

You can call me Toggo.

[fading cairn]

I was about to say croatia

Ok

[opal nymph]

Well, I was off

[steel idol]

no u arent lil guy

[lost dawn]

The Kingdom Of The Netherlands

[fading cairn]

Yes i was

[steel idol]

and?

u want a cookie?

[opal nymph]

There are only so many countries one can guess in the Balkans

[inland copper]

what did the balts do to you gang

other side of europe lmao

[fading cairn]

I was trying to be a douchebag and say it in croatian

[lost dawn]

Nothing. I simply have no love for them.

[fading cairn]

But i forgot

Hrvatija

[inland copper]

i hate the netherlands (ignore my future plans to study there)

[lost dawn]

[inland copper]

i love the great nation of Latvia

[fading cairn]

Glory to moldova

[restive sable]

dont we all?

[fading cairn]

🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩

[inland copper]

https://tenor.com/view/latvian-patriot-true-latvia-patriot-true-fact-check-gif-283567751241409092

[fading cairn]

Can we execute this guy

[restive sable]

isnt the guy in your pfp a member of the ustashe

[lost dawn]

The Baltics are quite irrelevant

[restive sable]

stg ive seen that image before

[steel idol]

it is

[fading cairn]

@stone sinew

[fading cairn]

Ustaše

[inland copper]

what dat mean

what did that mean before the delete

[steel idol]

🧃

[fading cairn]

Antisemitic comment

Neonazi

[inland copper]

we are very relevant (to the baltics)

[opal nymph]

Oh, you cant mention that one song

[inland copper]

what does 271k mean

[fading cairn]

Human shields or what

[opal nymph]

The one with the accordians

[steel idol]

he was number 1 at killing other serbs at jasenovac camp

[opal nymph]

Holy crap

[steel idol]

he killed most serbs in 1 night

[opal nymph]

Rule what is broken

[fading cairn]

Hava nagila?

Why

[opal nymph]

The Serbia one

[steel idol]

hell nah

[restive sable]

it's basically a denial that 6 million jews were slaughtered during the war, neonazis claim it was only "271,000" because of some red cross document that's been debunked a gorillion times

[opal nymph]

Well i cant say it as automod wrecked me

[inland copper]

oh

[harsh ravine]

How do i get a country to join my faction if i dont own it?

[opal nymph]

Either way Rule 4 and Rule 2 got vaporized in this chat

But I cant be bothered to @ the mods

[restive sable]

they just dont exist i suppose

[fading cairn]

Increase country relations, or do it via focus if possible

[opal nymph]

That moment when the Nazis even went "bro, you are going way too far" when it came to Croatian war crimes

[uncut pollen]

Lets please remove that

[fading cairn]

Okay

[opal nymph]

Oh, mods here

[inland copper]

Look at this though

(Pls get the reference)

[restive sable]

thankfully

[inland copper]

wsg

[restive sable]

sup

[fading cairn]

The dudes been spamming antisemitic shit the last 5-10 mins

[opal nymph]

You came right after this chat was breaking rules

[fading cairn]

LOL

[inland copper]

LMAO

[opal nymph]

Well

[inland copper]

FOLK SAID ANY1 BALKAN

son

why does he come here to ask whos balkan lmao

whats the point

go on reddit

[fading cairn]

Lol

[inland copper]

they will be very happy answering to any 1 balkan

[fading cairn]

His messages keep getting deleted

[opal nymph]

Bro is not immune to ragebait

[inland copper]

they might scream russian slurs at you BUT trust the process

[opal nymph]

I have seen many people come through this server and he isn't the worst

[fading cairn]

Welll well well

Totally not an alt

Joined today

😭😭😭

[opal nymph]

Though he isn't a good person for what he has said before

[inland copper]

maybe he just also likes the balkans

[fading cairn]

"May 27th 2026"

[uncut pollen]

Lets not bypass the filter please

[fading cairn]

Okay

Yeah youre not slick

I saw that

Mf's be slavic and nazi at the same time

[restive sable]

it pains me to see it

[opal nymph]

Bro is a fake croat?

[restive sable]

mfs will be slavic and support the one guy who wanted to get rid of them

[crystal marsh]

world tension is at 11

[burnt rock]

my country had communism and fasizm on the rise at one point

[crystal marsh]

how the hell did britain guarantee poland

[fading cairn]

That one leader literally called slavs subhumans

[opal nymph]

Maybe UK can guarantee at 10%

[crystal marsh]

i havent played hoi for a month, is this normal now

[opal nymph]

New faction mechanics

[fading cairn]

What year is it

[opal nymph]

Sure is

[crystal marsh]

holy shit man

[restive sable]

pretty much anyone with a double digit iq could tell you this

[opal nymph]

Peace for our time

Peace for all time

[crystal marsh]

36

[fair compass]

tonk

[fading cairn]

Why are you justifying on poland in 36

[crystal marsh]

warszawo walcz

[fading cairn]

Just proved youre an alt

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

least obvious alt ever

[fading cairn]

These people dont even hide it anymore

[inland copper]

as a proud independent member of society in formerly Nazi owned territory, and 50 years as a part of the Soviets, fk them both

[sleek belfry]

Lol

[opal nymph]

The Nazis when they said the Croats were going too far with the war crimes

[inland copper]

honestly

[fading cairn]

Ofcourse a nazi has a single digit iq

[burnt rock]

bro i dont care if everyone knows its my alt

[opal nymph]

You really screwed up if the nazis says the war crimes you are doing are too much

[fading cairn]

Youre gonna get banned

[inland copper]

my greatgrandma nearly died because the soviets were too focused on "collectivization"

[fading cairn]

Soap

[restive sable]

i mean they were all roughly the same barbarians anyways

[opal nymph]

?

[burnt rock]

bcs we used like srbosjek look it up if u want its a knife that u killed serbs wit

and stuff like that

[fading cairn]

Human soap made from nazi soldiers

[opal nymph]

Oh no...

[fading cairn]

Literal croatian crime

[burnt rock]

and albanian 1999

[fading cairn]

How deranged do you have to be to do that

[restive sable]

no eastern european should support either regime but i digress

[opal nymph]

I might just hop out of this convo before the mods nuke everything

[burnt rock]

bro serbs did a lot of war crimes in bosnia and croatia 1991

[opal nymph]

It's the balkans, what's new?

[restive sable]

this might be a good idea now that i think about it

[restive sable]

average day in the balkans

[fading cairn]

Same

[burnt rock]

vucic is gay and there are lesbians in the parlieament

[inland copper]

nobody in europe should

not even just europe

[restive sable]

fair point

[burnt rock]

i mean in serbia

[fading cairn]

Yet some idiots do

[inland copper]

our president is openly gay and we all love him tf

[burnt rock]

witch country?

[inland copper]

(alright ik me and my family and friends do, not that tapped into politics yet)

[fading cairn]

I saw a tiktok saying "if hitler came back today, would you support him?" Now guess what most of the comments were

[burnt rock]

which

[opal nymph]

https://youtu.be/n7Ajot2leYc?si=JKJXXSmlVW50V937

[inland copper]

the best, Latvia

[fair compass]

why does communist UK have a communist civil war btw 👀

i saw that happen once

[restive sable]

slavs and edgy 14 year olds

[fair compass]

and the ylost their leader

[fading cairn]

Neonazis

[fair compass]

influenced children unfortunately

[restive sable]

all a buncha larpers

[inland copper]

i bet Neo Nazis who upon seeing the bs that Hitler and his army leaders did would run away

[burnt rock]

commies with the stickers

[fading cairn]

Most of thw comments wrre filled with corny, racist, nazi kids

[restive sable]

it's easier for people to say that typa deluded shit when they're behind a screen

what do you expect

[inland copper]

most are some little kids who think world conquest is cool and have never really learned about what he ACTUALLY did other than "oh cool a bigger germany, war is cool"

in my opinion thats how it would look

[inland copper]

thats if they dont decolonize

[fading cairn]

I know how easy it is to get influenced, i thought of myself as a nazi 4 years ago

[inland copper]

idk why thats a part but facsist uk gets to not do it

[fading cairn]

Thank god i changed

[inland copper]

how old are you?

[fading cairn]

17

Turning 18 this year

[opal nymph]

Average teenager basing their entire personality and politicial beliefs based on vibes

[forest bough]

If my math is right you can get mechanized up to 125 org with doctrines alone

[inland copper]

https://tenor.com/view/summrs-summrs-leaving-summrs-plaqueboymax-summrs-5star-summrs-fivestar-gif-2344875955037272786

[opal nymph]

And thankfully growing out of it

[restive sable]

i never really believed in extremeist politics, probably heavily influenced by my roots and knowing very well what they've done on our soil kinda tends to yk

[opal nymph]

Oh, that sounds peak

Tell me how

[crystal marsh]

if they ever rework the uk they should make it so the uk cannot guarantee any nations until chamberlain is ousted

[inland copper]

wait where u from?

[opal nymph]

Nah

[restive sable]

polish, but i live in america

[fading cairn]

Doesnt work that way

[crystal marsh]

?

[inland copper]

oh yeah, visited Poland a month ago cool place

[karmic viper]

https://tenor.com/view/wise-man-gif-5554492470991407188

[inland copper]

sadly all museums were closed cuz of easter

[opal nymph]

If Germany decides to just invade people for the heck of it, Britain and France would intervene

It was just that the Germans prioritized lands with Germans in it initially

[crystal marsh]

they should also make it so world tension decides when chamberlain is ousted

[restive sable]

a shame

[crystal marsh]

so if it reaches 100% in 37 itll happen sooner

[restive sable]

been to poland a couple months ago again to visit

[fading cairn]

I hate nazism and communism to the last bit that there is, i just hate them

[inland copper]

i was really excited to go see some of the war museums in Warsaw

[restive sable]

it's really nice though i might be a little biased

[inland copper]

i was bummed

[opal nymph]

Chamberlain was the one who declared war on Germany btw

[inland copper]

really cool infrastructure

[opal nymph]

Thought I'd mention that

[restive sable]

i've been to the warsaw uprising museum when i was there in late march

[forest bough]

I just saw this

I'm also around your age

Four years ago my former friend who was a nazi and drug addict tried to kill me

He stopped showing up to school after that and we have no idea where he is/whether he's alive/etc

Good on you for changing, you probably prevented a lot of harm by doing so

[inland copper]

i ate at a mcdonalds and started laughing cuz what is a chiker

[restive sable]

iirc didnt chamberlain resign after the disaster of the norwegian campaign?

[inland copper]

very funny, very funny indeed (trmp voice*)

[opal nymph]

Yes

[fading cairn]

Thanks, nobody should experience this stuff

[opal nymph]

And evacuation of the BEF at Dunkirk

[inland copper]

that was the one i wanted to see

sad i didnt

[fair compass]

the wonders of unrestricted internet access and the recent rise of fascism heavily influences them i believe

[restive sable]

ah, a real shame

hope you get the chance to visit it one day

[inland copper]

i did get to go bouldering which was cool

and my favourite, just walk around the city with music

really cool place

[opal nymph]

I know someone who is a confederate sympathizer purely due to vibes (and maybe some racism?)

What do i mean maybe

Probably

[restive sable]

i thank the founding fathers that 14 year olds cant vote

[graceful grove]

I think it’s cuz “the files stuff” and israel
People abuse the situation

[karmic viper]

is this TNO in vanilla

[inland copper]

oe ay when im older

[fair compass]

abuse? how so?

[restive sable]

people find any reason to spout hatred

[inland copper]

1965 op barbarossa?

[opal nymph]

White men over 21 who owned property

[inland copper]

nice

[karmic viper]

I joined vc and saw this frick

[opal nymph]

Well some states had the property requriement

[graceful grove]

Israel bomb places
They make videos and edits about this certain leader being right

[restive sable]

thought it was a general thing

[fair compass]

oh

[fading cairn]

I saw indians yesterday

In ukraine

[opal nymph]

Nothing in the Constitution stated property

States could add their own stuff

[karmic viper]

WTF THE CUA

[restive sable]

ah i should be knowing this

[opal nymph]

Because the joys of federalism

[karmic viper]

what is this guy on

[inland copper]

our founding fathers (father) dipped on a boat as soon as Stalin came knocking with his "diplomatic" subjugation (he said he would invade us otherwise) but later claimed he did it in peace, what a prick

[restive sable]

[opal nymph]

Federalism is not bad, has its quirks

[opal nymph]

Peak

[fair compass]

the 3 corners of europe

[lethal ether]

3090 factories?

[karmic viper]

its 1965

what you expect

[fair compass]

HUH

[forest bough]

Mechanized infantry starts with 60 org

For your infantry doctrine do mobile infantry (+40 org)

Combat support doctrine doesn't matter

For your tank doctrine do armored cavalry (+10 org)

For your operations doctrine do mission-type tactics (+25 org)

So actually I can't do math and you can actually get it up to 135

[lethal ether]

i know

[fair compass]

you playing until 2020 or sum

[restive sable]

who was that?

[karmic viper]

this guy may just be on crack

the guy in helping lounge 2

[inland copper]

Kārlis Ulmanis

[restive sable]

i want to say karlis ulmanis but i feel like thats wrong

oh nvm

[fading cairn]

Latvia?

[inland copper]

unless i got my stories wrong, but im 99% sure he dipped onna boat once Stalin came in peace

[inland copper]

yessor

[lethal ether]

how do u even get to 1965 and not to barbarossa do u just wait?

[opal nymph]

This brings joy

[restive sable]

unfortunately for the baltics there wasn't much they could do realistically

[fading cairn]

Got it because of the ā

[restive sable]

still such a shame

[opal nymph]

He had a non aggression pact

Why would he break it

[untold cove]

the lore thickens (sorry for what you went through)

[inland copper]

u smart

[karmic viper]

idk this guy is on crack

[restive sable]

there was one battle during the 1920 war with the bolsheviks that poles and latvians fought side-by-side

[lethal ether]

if u dont break it the soviets will

[inland copper]

our 10k military against them

[restive sable]

daugapilvis i think

(im probably spelling it wrong)

[opal nymph]

Well apparently they didnt

[inland copper]

yeah we did before breaking free

Germans got juked

[karmic viper]

this guy is insane

[inland copper]

W uk for helping us

[karmic viper]

idk what he on

[restive sable]

baltics were quite a mess during the aftermath of WW1

[inland copper]

close enough, Daugavpils, Daugava - the river, pils - castle

[opal nymph]

Do you mean eastern europe

[restive sable]

yes in general

[inland copper]

we were a new rebuilding country with no real stability so to speak

and we Latvians actually saw the Nazis as liberators once they came but quickly realised otherwise

[restive sable]

poland's state was not much better considering nearly every border became a frontline at one point or another

[untold cove]

was there a place which was not a mess during the afermath of ww1

[opal nymph]

I thought the Baltics had their wars of independence and was less messy compared to Russia, except for the Polish and Lithuanian borders

[inland copper]

yes it was, we had much support from everyone

but we ourselves werent the strongest

[inland copper]

yeah lol, our capital Riga suffered horrendously during Barb

[restive sable]

it was still quite messy, the baltic states essentially fought against the whites (bermontians), the german nobility (baltische landeswehr), the soviets, and in the case of lithuania the poles

[opal nymph]

Oh dang

[fading cairn]

Latvian has ā ē ī
Lithuanian sounds weird
Estonian sounds like a cousin of finnish
Belarusian has a weird y letter
Russian has ы
Ukrainian has i
Czech doesnt have a lot of a o e i u
Serbian is cyrillic czech
Polish and slovak are similar and sound like russian and ukrainian but latinized

[opal nymph]

Peak America moment of knowing nothing but bare basics of world history

[inland copper]

we even have a exposition called the Corner House, in which u can go read about Soviet occupation, and u can pay money to enter the basement where they walk you through interrogation techniques they used, its a former KGB HQ btw

fun fact

[forest bough]

Thanks, it was a while ago now

Luckily I just so happened to be friends with a bunch of gymbros and two of them risked expulsion to beat him up in the hallway so that I would be safe, since the resource cops at the school wouldn't do anything about it

[inland copper]

imo russian is similar to ukrainian

[restive sable]

im going to make sure to do this whenever i go to latvia

[inland copper]

put both side by side and i cant tell the difference

[restive sable]

really would want to visit the baltic states one day

[fading cairn]

When i saw the name antanas smetkna i thought of pinapple and sour cream

[inland copper]

(ive been learning russian for 4 years in school)

[fading cairn]

If you know both they are very different

[inland copper]

Anton Smetkna how i read it

[inland copper]

really cool place

its small

[restive sable]

truth

[fading cairn]

Ananas smetana

[inland copper]

but old Riga is a very nice place

just dont go anywhere near Origo without latvian supervision

[inland copper]

i can say a few things in russian

but nah

[restive sable]

is this like the latvian version of o block or something

[inland copper]

im ahh

[restive sable]

what can possibly happen in Origo

[inland copper]

might just be

nooo

Origo is a mall

and there are tunnels bellow Origo which are infamous for just straight bs

all the wrong reasons

its not that bad but im not a tourist so id never know

[fading cairn]

Mf this feels like varus in brovary

Never go there

Everything always happens there

[inland copper]

1 wrong interraction with a russian and you are inna fight with 6 drunk folk

[rancid chasm]

Are the new DLCs worth it, I haven't acquired a DLC ever since TOA

[inland copper]

ill trust you on that

[inland copper]

you can try them if u pay 8 a month for the sub

which is what im on rn

[fading cairn]

Graveyard of empires is pure shit, nobody asked for it, ncns is fine, gotterdammerung is worth it

[rancid chasm]

I have Twilight of the Gods

[steel spear]

How am I supposed to win the american civilwsr when I keep getting attacked by mexico and the other side is pulling divisopm from their bums

[fading cairn]

And pfot is ehh

[fading cairn]

What

[inland copper]

Latvian o block is either "maskavas forštate" or "purvciems"

[rancid chasm]

Gotterdamerung

[inland copper]

never go there

[restive sable]

my honest opinion (lot of people vary so dont just take my word for it)

NCNS i personally really enjoyed, price is a bit too steep to justify though, i'd wait for a sale for this one
GOE just isnt really worth it, only tree ive liked is iran. if you really want it, again, wait for a sale
PFOT i've really enjoyed personally

[restive sable]

gotterdammerung translates to "Twilight of the Gods" i believe

[inland copper]

they added a new hre to the bohemian path

[steel spear]

Anyone?

[restive sable]

yes they did

[fading cairn]

Ukrainian version of o block is just troyeschina in kyiv

[rancid chasm]

My thoughts tbh, since NCNS seems to be good but it's just the pricing

[inland copper]

i dont even wanna go near ukraine

it scares me

[rancid chasm]

Graveyard of Empires was total shit

[restive sable]

NCNS adds a lot of interesting stuff, like faction rework and doctorine rework, and the trees are really fun

japan especially

[fading cairn]

Its a nice place, sad that we have to suffer from war

[inland copper]

u ukrainian?

sad to see what the russians are doing ngl

[rancid chasm]

Do you even need NCNS, since I have the new doctrine thing and coal without it

[inland copper]

scares ALL of us

[restive sable]

praying that one day ukraine will be free

[inland copper]

insert massive border with russia*

[restive sable]

tell me about it

[fading cairn]

Mfs bombed their own college, used it as a reason to bomb kyiv for 8 hours straight

[restive sable]

honestly im unsure

[inland copper]

theres always a looming thought of what if Russia comes

[rancid chasm]

No longer a media spotlight either

[coarse fable]

is it more worth it for defensive intent to make lower combat width tanks to spread out armor over the frontline?