hoi4-general

[raven lotus]

first of all thats what she said, and second of all, yes

[tulip thorn]

That shall make copies of a manifesto

[misty fossil]

anyway

[raven lotus]

fun fact Puyi was gay

[bronze needle]

who is puyi

[raven lotus]

the last emperor of China?

the one who got screwed over by the japanese and then mao and then die as a brainwashed maoist

[bronze needle]

ohhhh

yeah no idea

[tulip thorn]

Very sad

[bronze needle]

i have to learn chinese history frfr

[raven lotus]

the one who deserved to be emperor until Sun Yat-Sen jumped the gun

I hate republics so much, except for the US, because America

[bronze needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325805757278453875/1495409646444351798/togif.gif

[tulip thorn]

dead chat

[bronze needle]

its 9 am i wonder why its dead

[tulip thorn]

1:17 am for me :)

[bronze needle]

how does combat width works btw

the less the better but

how

you get attacked by more places or wha

[tulip thorn]

Each type of terrain has its own combat width

the lower the combat width on a unit the more you can fit into one battle

and if you exceed combat width you take penalties

[bronze needle]

so if i have a template with 10 combat width, it could fit 7 divisions against one for example?

[tulip thorn]

yes

[bronze needle]

ohhhhhh

[tulip thorn]

You need to make the perfect balace of lower combat width

with actual good attacking/defending stats

[bronze needle]

aight bet

thanks bruv

[fair horizon]

Pfp change

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

I've been looking for a good twilight image to replace my pfp with, and I found this one

[leaden mulch]

same

[tulip thorn]

Mountain time moment

[dusky burrow]

i think it'd fit 9 actually

and you're probably asking me why

you can go overwidth by 33%

[bronze needle]

no im not

jk

why

[bronze needle]

and they get penalties right?

because

[tulip thorn]

yes

[bronze needle]

they surpas the

bs

[tulip thorn]

you get a exceeding combat width penalty

Its not that bad tbh

[dusky burrow]

yeah, by as much as you go overwidth with

[fair horizon]

mountaineers 😡

cst best time zone

all others are fake

[tulip thorn]

False

Mountain time is king

[bronze needle]

mountaineers ❤️

[fair horizon]

mountain time zone has zero iowas named after them

also montana doesnt have a battleship

[tulip thorn]

Mountain time has colorado

Which makes it best

USS Colorado is also the best battleship ever btw

[fair horizon]

basically not even a real time zone

[tulip thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463391803234324571/1484297274963267826/usscoloradomybeloved.gif

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warships-battleship-uss-missouri-enel-gif-15986744

iowas are 10x cooler imo

[tulip thorn]

Colorado class walked so the iowa class could run

[fair horizon]

i think ww1 dreadnoughts are cooler than the colorado class tbh

[tulip thorn]

USS Colorado can never be beat

[fair horizon]

if the uss colorado is so cool why didnt they make a uss colorado 2?

[fair horizon]

theres 2 iowa battleships

[tulip thorn]

Also im 100% not biased toward the USS Colorado at all

Or the colorado class in general

[fair horizon]

im not biased towards the Iowa either

dont know how someone could get the idea

[bronze needle]

if navy so good then why didnt the devs release navy 2

[tulip thorn]

Yeah exactly

[fair horizon]

they did and it SUCKS

[tulip thorn]

0 bias from either of us

[bronze needle]

fym they did

[viscid mason]

Hello

[bronze needle]

hi

[tulip thorn]

Ncns did a minor naval rework

[bronze needle]

and what does it has now

[fair horizon]

"minor" naval rework

[tulip thorn]

Naval domanince is important for naval invasions

[fair horizon]

it forces people to actually use their navy

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[viscid mason]

4am for me today. How is it going for you all?

[tulip thorn]

And its good

[tulip thorn]

good hbu

[fair horizon]

alright you're definitely in a fake time zone

[bronze needle]

wasnt this the usual for a naval invasion?

[viscid mason]

Atlantic time is very niche

[tulip thorn]

Your navy actually needs to patrol to gain it

You cant just use strike force

[viscid mason]

About to go back to sleep due to a bloody nose I woke up to. Anyways good night to everyone. Doesnt help that I have a few things to do later this morning

[bronze needle]

the green action right 🤤

[tulip thorn]

Damn

[tulip thorn]

What

[fair horizon]

also they removed the green color

[bronze needle]

there was a red, green and yellow marker that said if it was patrol or strike force type shi

[tulip thorn]

This one

[bronze needle]

ye

see

yellow green and red

[fair horizon]

colored icons 🤮

[tulip thorn]

Damn

[bronze needle]

mr colorblind right here

blud plays in white and black colours as if it was in those old tv's

[fair horizon]

all my buttons are default colors

[tulip thorn]

I used to need colored icons to help me ngl

[bronze needle]

tf you talking abt, the buttons had colours always bro what

[tulip thorn]

my vision isnt great at all

[bronze needle]

you can modify the buttons??!?

[tulip thorn]

Also really like how many traits this guy has

[bronze needle]

"guy"

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[bronze needle]

"""""guy"""""""

[fair horizon]

con mane lmao

[bronze needle]

"""traits"""

""also""

[heavy vigil]

pink

[tulip thorn]

Shaken not stirred

[heavy vigil]

boat

[fair horizon]

which one

[heavy vigil]

youre a boat

[bronze needle]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[fair horizon]

yeah but which one so i can tell if its an insult or not

[bronze needle]

boiiiii😂
humbled his ahh😂 ✌️

[bronze needle]

aircraft carrier

[tulip thorn]

USS Massachusetts

[fair horizon]

respectable

[tulip thorn]

Ok

Uss colorado then

The best one ever

[fair horizon]

biggest insult ever

[bronze needle]

uss shitenboat

what abt that

[tulip thorn]

False

The USS Colorado solo's

[heavy vigil]

uuhh hm, idk

im not very knowledgeable

[bronze needle]

the fuh does uss means btw

[tulip thorn]

United states ship

[icy egret]

I find it funny how Changeling agents, a country with a massive investment and culture of espionage in VOPS has like one unique spy and they aren’t very good, meanwhile Equestria has way more with Con Mane and SMILE as a whole

[tulip thorn]

Changelings need better agency buffs, realisticly they are pretty op as agents

[fair horizon]

speaking of ship prefixes i was staring at my screen for like a solid 10 minutes trying to figure out what CUV stood for in star trek

[tulip thorn]

Chrysalis was able to infiltrate equestria several times with no issues

[fair horizon]

Cardassian Union Vessel

had me so confused

[tulip thorn]

But 1 changeling cant within equestria at war lol

[fair horizon]

Chrissy ❤️

[tulip thorn]

I prefer kevin

[fair horizon]

no clue who that is

[tulip thorn]

He is kevin

Thats who he is

we love kevin

[bronze needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/breaking-bad-126--k01KS4RBWNFD17E1RRM85BK2697

[fair horizon]

never seen him

[tulip thorn]

He was just a random background character

never seen again

[bronze needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/random-kid-1--k01KS4RDHYY46HH3Y8KVZC8KRX9

[tulip thorn]

Pretty much

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-mike-ehrmantraut-breaking-bad-k2-arty-gif-26747433

[bronze needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1030362806836543519/1260298250678698004/never_say_this.gif

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[tulip thorn]

Brainash

This chat has dropped by several iq points

[bronze needle]

did we had them in first place

https://tenor.com/view/mozai-mo-zai-cat-propeller-hat-silly-gif-9626862374164408806

[tulip thorn]

Maybe

no

we are hoi4 players

We dont have braincells

[ripe slate]

[tulip thorn]

Ok I think im going to go sleep

Goodnight

[fair horizon]

gn

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-mlp-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-twilight-sparkle-sleeping-gif-18416867992040716922

[ripe slate]

Good noot Dempsey!

[bronze needle]

spooky scary skibidi put rizzlers down your throat

[kindred lotus]

is this a good encirclement

[bronze needle]

who is the encircled here?

[kindred lotus]

im the soviets

[bronze needle]

huhhh

[fair horizon]

weakest zhukov army

[bronze needle]

oh those are the loses?

[kindred lotus]

i encircled 150 germans divisions

they have 700 more

yes

i buffed germany to the max and gave them all of USA , UK and france

[bronze needle]

fym they have 700 more divisions

[kindred lotus]

and its sheeps ai too

working on another encirclement

[bronze needle]

tf the romanians doing there 💔

[ripe slate]

🔫

[bronze needle]

who is this yo

ouu shi

discord mod

aye how u doin

[grave sonnet]

Encircle and when you do post it on Reddit for free upvotes

[kindred lotus]

trvke..

[grave sonnet]

Ion understand why the ai just leaves 30+ division stacked while getting encircled

[kindred lotus]

the AI just puts like

200 divisions in one spot

and my tanks can click anything

3k breakthrough..

o algo

[grave sonnet]

I remember when I first started playing Hoi4 I played Yugo tried getting Tito and lost the civil war I started (I had no DLCS so yeah)

[dusky burrow]

a lot tbh

btw if you can do it then yeah do the large encirclement, but you may have to settle with small encirclements

just saying

[kindred lotus]

i have tanks that can click anything

this isnt multiplayer

[dusky burrow]

germans can click your inf so you should be careful

[echo basin]

Can i make old hoi4 mods work with newer versions bc i wanna play sacred war or a 1942 start date

[echo basin]

Who are you?

[echo basin]

Oh...OH

JESUS

YOU HIT THE MOTHER LOAD

[south mountain]

Is it me or why did they give so much focus for czechoslovakia?

They should have done it in a bigger allied nations rework

[dry sleet]

Making "graveyard of empires" moniker a little more literal, well at least the graveyard part

[bronze needle]

are those nukes

[cedar lance]

im very sad

[leaden mulch]

you can order thermonukes and regular nukes on the same tile iirc

[bronze needle]

hi very sad im ghaleriusB

what happened

[cedar lance]

im scared of dying young im 25 yrs old but i could maybe die young

since im addicted to certain fast foods

[bronze needle]

bro you just scared me right there 😭

dont worry twin, food wont kill you at 25

[cedar lance]

alr

i wanna live a long life

[bronze needle]

as long as you stay healty

do u do any exercises?

[cedar lance]

i go swimming and walking

[bronze needle]

naahhh everything is fine bro

[cedar lance]

alr thx

1 day ill stop eating bad and unhealthy foods

like fast food chips nuts etc

[bronze needle]

with this you mean you eat ts everyday?

[bronze needle]

ohhhh

[cedar lance]

no i mean i eat fast foods only 1 time per month

[bronze needle]

nahh bro you are completely fine

[cedar lance]

thx

i need to be a indendpent person and take care of myself

since i am only 25

ive seen vids

about BIG people

who need help

[bronze needle]

nah bro, those people usually have diseases related to it or have been eating bs everyday since they were born

[cedar lance]

alr

like im upset sometimes

sometimes i get Very depressed

i do like cats

they give me comfort

[bronze needle]

bro has cats😭

why does everyone has cats except me

i need 4 of them

[cedar lance]

my aunt has a good cat

called kitti

[bronze needle]

and then my mom steps in and says " we should have a chihuaha" are we deadahh 💔

[cedar lance]

alr

my mom has 2 brother cats

[bronze needle]

just give me one bro istg

[cedar lance]

i also like dogs geese and ducks

[bronze needle]

arent geese , ducks?

[cedar lance]

idk

[dry sleet]

H bombs

[grave sonnet]

Allat to lose to random mountain villagers

[zenith imp]

are sp artilleries worth it

is anything sp worth it in generla

?

[grave sonnet]

SPG tanks worth it

[sleek pollen]

is No Compromise, No Surrender dlc good? i mean a rework of focus tree for china and japan sounds good cus they also play a major part in ww2

[ripe slate]

PRC is also a lot more fun

Japan might be a bit too easy imo, but the content is pretty cool

[sleek pollen]

yea, i really wanna try prc once i got this dlc but idk why that dlc got a bad review in steam

[ripe slate]

Price is one of the reasons I think

[winged field]

The best thing about NCNS are the doctrine that are locked behind it tbh

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/press-f-mg-salute-gif-15543929

[sleek pollen]

ahh that would make sense

[patent thistle]

me still at work for another 2-3 hours.
https://tenor.com/de/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[winged field]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiser-wilhelm-kawaii-teruboz-gif-13107628486786161527

[patent thistle]

i just wanna go home damit, i am already done with my work for the day.

[sleek pollen]

fr! thats another reason why i wanna get this dlc

[cursive oxide]

ar these 2 good ? german empire

[winged field]

Like the best sp doctrine for tanks is there

Along with individual excellency for infantry

[patent thistle]

big w for going stormtrooper accuracy

[cursive oxide]

the give some nice buffs

[silk furnace]

all good tank doctrines are locked behind a paywall

[sleek pollen]

try 16 width for cheap defensive infantry

[silk furnace]

except operations

[patent thistle]

i know that

[cursive oxide]

na have 1,7 mil manpower and 80k guns

[silk furnace]

its more efficient w terrain

theres a reason 16w is better

[sleek pollen]

make it 36 width for both defense and offence

[silk furnace]

and also ur space marines are 20w

[silk furnace]

why?

[patent thistle]

not in plains tho i am pretty sure

[silk furnace]

yep

[cursive oxide]

aslo i cant play german empire cus uk is a comie if the dont have that empire i cant get war goals

[sleek pollen]

well if u have a surplus in mp and guns, why not

[patent thistle]

but then again holding plains in general is a massive pain in the ass if there is no river defense buffs

welcome to poland prime ig

[silk furnace]

imo u could js go down on guns up on other stuff and sit on infinite stockpile/deploy more 16w

[patent thistle]

at this point i should also be called hungarian patriot by the amount of times i did greater hungary

[silk furnace]

lol

[patent thistle]

hey you cant judge me here road to 56 just did the borders perfectly

because they actually care

[silk furnace]

r56 is meta

[patent thistle]

it is basically in some senses required if you want to have fun, it fixes some really stupid bugs

and the ability to not be forced into a civilwar to go tsarist russia is also great

[silk furnace]

i had 0 clue about that

i basicly never played non hist

[proud ember]

<@&846894118219022336>

troll on vc

@raw ermine

[hollow silo]

why did u ping all or em tf

[patent thistle]

@grizzled delta

ticket

you dont have to ping them all in general chat

they have that bot for a reason after all

[near nymph]

@kindred hedge im shy

[cursive oxide]

this something ?

[sudden thistle]

What

Yes??

[cursive oxide]

for a thubnail

[sudden thistle]

The Kaiserriech?

Yes

[cursive oxide]

or do i make it the german empire

[grave sonnet]

Kaiser.

[sudden thistle]

Only if u could open the focus tree and check…

[near nymph]

@kindred hedge im not communist it was a joke

[cursive oxide]

?

[grave sonnet]

Based for not being a communist

[near nymph]

mhmm

[acoustic wasp]

what does fully controlled mean? like compliance wise? going for a world conquest

[cedar lance]

is it possible to recruit concsript/draft non core manpower

just like IRL in ww2

[sudden thistle]

Iirc u need to fully own the province

[acoustic wasp]

i fully on all of europe besides the other axis countries, it shows in the list here

[serene sable]

😔 chat I already have the base game, how do I get the DLCs? Do I just buy the ultimate bundle? Does that have all the gameplay DLCs? I obviously could not care less abouth the comestics, just looking for a way to get all the gameplay related DLCs for the "full" experience

[sudden thistle]

Hm

[sudden thistle]

Check if u have claims/cores on bordering states in Europe

It may mess that up

[sudden thistle]

DLC subscription works
Or u can buy each dlc independently

I’m not sure on what the ultimate bundle is

But I assume it’s not every game changing dlc

[serene sable]

nah it has a bunch of cosmetics one

[acoustic wasp]

man the japs are annoying as hell in every playthrough, gotta spend 2 months till your forces land in there

[serene sable]

Which are the gameplay ones? Is it only these?:

• Gotterdammerung
• No Step Back
• La Resistance
• Bosperous

Is that it?

[sudden thistle]

Ok there are 3 types of dlc

1 comes with focus trees and mechanics

2nd comes with just focus trees

3rd comes with either cosmetic or a single focus tree

[silk furnace]

no step back is the best one

[sudden thistle]

Do u want both 1 and 2?

[serene sable]

yes 1 and 2

if you can help me that'd be great

Well probably I'll also wait for a sales

[sudden thistle]

Lemme go through the list of all dlc and I can list them for u

[sudden thistle]

Yes that’s very important

[serene sable]

bro might be based o7

[silk furnace]

he is trust

[sudden thistle]

No compromise no surrender 1 (Japan China, navies)
No step back 1 (Baltics, Poland, USSR, tank designer)
Gotterdamerung 1 (germany, Austria, Belgium, special projects)
La resistance 1 (France, Spain, Portugal, spies)
Arms against tyranny 1 Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, MIO’s/world market)
By blood alone 1 (Ethiopia, Italy, Switzerland, plane designer)
Graveyard of empires 2 (Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Iran)
Trials of allegiance 2 (Brazil, Chile, Argentinia, Paraguay, Uruguay)
Battle for the Bosporus 2 (Bulgaria, TURKIYEE, Greece)
Peace for our time, 3 but it’s a single focus tree (Czechoslovakia)
The rest are audio and cosmetic packs
(Though I do recommend the axis/allied armor packs) (autistic tank models)
And thunder at our gates releases next month on the 11th, I forgot if it’s 1 or 2 (Indonesia, New Zealand, Australia)

But I do recommend learning base game first before dlc

Since all dlc can be overwhelming for new players

[cedar lance]

hey yalls

[serene sable]

:3

[dry sleet]

WW3 is finally over...

[last dome]

when hoi4 will discount guys

[serene sable]

so should I buy a bundle or seperately. How does that work?

[last dome]

i wanna buy the game but too broke to afford it

[ripe slate]

You should, especially the old ones go on huge sales

[sudden thistle]

Hmm

Bundles usually have their own discount

And u can use that discount along with the individual discounts

[ripe slate]

In like 3 weeks when ToaG comes out it almost certainly will go on sale @last dome @serene sable

[sudden thistle]

11th on the next month I think

[last dome]

bett

it need to be below somewhat 60 dollars

100 is too expensib

[serene sable]

So is the US tree still a bum

[sudden thistle]

I think it’s $50

[ripe slate]

Yes

[sudden thistle]

Yup

[last dome]

even better

full dlcs?

[cedar lance]

there is a mod that adds different foreign legions for germany and ussr

[sudden thistle]

Oh no that’s just TaoG

[last dome]

skul

[sudden thistle]

It’s paradox interactive

Anyways I will wake back up in like 30 minutes

[cedar lance]

alr

can i add foreign legions and recruitable divs as Germany and ussr?

it would and will be nice

[fair horizon]

TaoG dont you ruin australia for me

[quartz nimbus]

belgian line mazhino

[ripe slate]

Cools pretty cool

[grave sonnet]

Germans gonna bomb the shit outta it

[winged field]

Hopefully you get some air for it

otherwise forts go ka boom

[sudden thistle]

The famous Belgian airforce

[quartz nimbus]

nope, only air defense in template

but

thats stupid ai

[winged field]

they should be attacking harder honestly

good for you

[quartz nimbus]

thk

[cinder parrot]

Holy I just got an amber alert

[echo flume]

Trying to get the "assuming direct control" achievement but romania strat doesnt work anymore, any ideas?

When the axis is defeated the faction just disappears

[grave sonnet]

Do Mongolia

Wait for the Soviets to cap

(if they cap)

And take leadership

[echo flume]

Will the faction disband though

Because when I tried that with romania the axis disbanded

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-harbinger-collectors-video-games-reapers-gif-14520191

[paper echo]

this game bro 🤦🏼‍♂️

[snow rain]

where is your capital hub

[misty fossil]

Lviv apparently

[paper echo]

vienna

and i control it

ill try to move it to see if it does anything

nope it didnt change anything

its just hoi being hoi again

[fading cairn]

peak performance (im aussa)

[paper echo]

and my infa and stuff arent even damaged

[snow rain]

to be honest, your game is heavily modded, it's probably not a game issue

[paper echo]

whatever it is its super annoying

[snow rain]

you're right about that

[fading cairn]

im about to hit a 1:20 casualty ratio

[paper echo]

and i cant even trade with anyone 💀

[snow rain]

can you screenshot your logistic mapmode ?

[paper echo]

well too late now i already hit alt f4

but my supply was fine

and the railways connected

[sage plover]

if i as imperial germany, rebuild austria hungary. can they become liechtenstein? or is it just impossible for the ai to do that path

[snow rain]

I wanted to see what routes it was trying to take and where your capital hub was actually generating supply from

also 0% logistical fulfilment isn't fine

[sage plover]

i get ts everytime i play austria hungary. </3

atleast for the early war, untill i can build up an airforce able to counter them, i am on zero the entire time

XD

[paper echo]

im pretty sure i had that before but i could still get my resources

[fading cairn]

holy reclaimation

[paper echo]

all i know is that i did a defensive line lost some land and poof my resources were gone

or it started when i cancelled a trade for resources i dont remember

[merry compass]

I did the offer poland protection focus as the soviet but i can't join their war against german is that normal?

[fair horizon]

Did you own all the land in that province?

If your enemy owns some tiles they get some resources

[silk furnace]

OMG HEISENBERG

ESPORTS

[snow rain]

1 mil on train usually fixes that

[snow rain]

even then, it's not something you can ignore

[paper echo]

true but considering i had 0 resources i couldnt do anything

[paper echo]

yes

[snow rain]

1mil on train day 1 = no more issues

[paper echo]

well i cant go back in time 🏳️ 😔

[paper echo]

yeah after breaking bad ended i didnt have money so now i play hoi4

[fading cairn]

holy larp

[whole matrix]

Those are not even desert regions 😭

[fading cairn]

looks like a desert to me

[whole matrix]

Not desert enough

[lost dawn]

This is how the war is going.

Now to get the UK

[lost dawn]

And tips for this?

[snow rain]

good paratroopers (not the crappy base templates)
lots of fighters, CAS and, ideally, naval bombers to protect your convoys
land in one place as a distraction, then full send on the other side (I prefer landing the distraction around Hull and the real invasion in the plymouth-cardiff area which is less defended
if you have starting tactical/stratbombers, use them to bomb the static AA in the region before dropping. CAS, navbombs and other bombers must wait for absolute air supremacy before going on missions or they'll get slaughtered

once you land somwhere and secure a port, send inf in (DO NOT overstack supply), then pull out the paras and land somwhere else
rinse and repeat until you can push. You will need a LOT of CAS

you can get early air by using 1936 airframe, 1 engine 2, one x4 light MG + one x2 canons 1 (or two x4 HMG if you have those) and an extra fuel tank

[paper echo]

thats something i really needed to learn last year.i lost like 400 units as fascist america trying to invade uk 💀

[snow rain]

CAS will just be 2 bomb locks, 1 engine, range

[paper echo]

because i sent all of my units because i was stupid

[snow rain]

not overstacking is key

[paper echo]

had a good laugh though

[snow rain]

that's the way to learn

[paper echo]

yeah i learnt it the hard way

probably the funniest moment i had in mp

[snow rain]

I remember my first soviet playthrough where I full sent a tank army in stettin only to get pushed on the main front like butter because no more units to hold

also kept dying to CAS because "air isn't useful"

[paper echo]

in my first germany playthrough i remember stacking full armies of tank units (base template) in the maginot and i wasnt able to push because i didnt know anything about ww2 at that time

and i remember annexed half of europe through the focus tree instead of making puppets

[snow rain]

my big Ragnarok run in 2018 was made almost entirely with the base tank template until I got super heavy tanks and made a 50width div worth 40k ic

sadly the screenshot whas lost to time :(

[paper echo]

i rarely use tanks nowadays (especially on mods) because they made artillery so op with the new doctrines

my fat arti units with a litle bit of planes are shredders

[snow rain]

arty still isn't op

[paper echo]

it kinda depends on the mod

[snow rain]

it isn't as bad because combat width change, but it's still meh at best

because all the buffs you get on line arty, you get better with inf

[snow rain]

well, yeah, some mods are made for line arty to be used like oak2, TFB, horst etc

im talking van,illa

[paper echo]

yeah i havent played vanilla since december

i play cw and 1984 now

[snow rain]

I only play vanilla for achievements and in MP games (french lobbies not liking big mods anymore)

[paper echo]

i just dont have anything to do on vanilla

[snow rain]

used to love Total War mod
shame it's discontinued

[paper echo]

vanilla always ends up the same way,either on historical or on unhistorical everyone joins a huge faction

[narrow lotus]

holy

the new dlc comes out right as I come back from my holiday in australia

crazy timing

[paper echo]

THEY ARE FINALLY ADDING SHORTCUTS TO DELETING AND ADDING BATTALIONS

[lost dawn]

They left dover undefended at first but then were able to push my troops when they landed in the port. I lost 2 divisions.

[paper echo]

YEAH

[narrow lotus]

lock in pal

1938 and they aren't dead

cooked

[lost dawn]

I asked for some tips

[narrow lotus]

im kidding bro I suck ass as italy ✌️

im gonna try it tmrw tho

[lost dawn]

Looking promising

Sending my army across

Another dude got scammed

How sad

[paper echo]

<@&846894118219022336>

dude i need to go to that site i need money

its totally legit

[narrow lotus]

gl

[lost dawn]

91% towards cap yet I am unable to push

[pulsar topaz]

Why do all the millenium mods take an extremely long time to load

shit is so fkin annoying

[pulsar topaz]

Italia 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[hearty robin]

🤞 do we get rogue pirate nations?

[vague abyss]

ngl i did a trash build but somehow managed to do this

[lost dawn]

I think I have to call in Germany

I see no other way of winning this war

[narrow lotus]

are u playing as the soviets and not using the dnieper river?

[manic iris]

lets see how im going to do before ww2

[vague abyss]

i did but I was trying a 36W strategy in sheeps and lets say not good

[narrow lotus]

oh

[clear dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1162135947278811196/1208886476235083776/togif-2.gif

[narrow lotus]

makes sense

[vague abyss]

i got lucky with the situation so far

i deployed 20 divs to hold the encirclement but a railway not joint caused like no supply for 2 months after

[manic iris]

😭 i expect nothing im os bad at the game

what is a good inf for germany

[cedar lance]

i like the regimental support companies

[clear dagger]

idk i dont play them

i main lux

[kindred lotus]

its sheeps ai btw 😭

[manic iris]

😭

[vague abyss]

we getting pushed further we barely have 1 tile to hold on the encirclement but my tanks are pushing

[kindred lotus]

just do standard line inf

use mountaineers

[manic iris]

whats that

[kindred lotus]

just like

18w inf

[clear dagger]

pov: you encircle the 6th army but another 6th army from the multiverse appears next to them doubling the encirclement

[kindred lotus]

with support art and engineers

[kindred lotus]

yk whats the funny thing

i annexed USA and UK and all of the allies into germany

and ghave them like max buffs

they had like

1.3k factories

i still was able to battleplan with them my tanks tho

[kindred lotus]

ima show u my tanks hold on

[manic iris]

how do yall do this stuff ive been playing for 80 hours and still havent taken down a damn major yet

[kindred lotus]

i have 6k hours bro

it takes a while

[manic iris]

i feel like im gonna suck for the rest of damn eternity

[vague abyss]

fr

[kindred lotus]

is this w dubs

[clear dagger]

yknow i tried something similar when i made germany the only country in the world besides me with cores on the whole planet

Don't do what I did

with my country

[kindred lotus]

what country were u

[vague abyss]

i got red alert 3 playing

[kindred lotus]

it takes time

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/galvatron-transformers-g1transformers-gif-26908741

[manic iris]

guys if i bring japan and italy in axis they wont actualy help wont they

[clear dagger]

🇱🇺

[kindred lotus]

oh my

[clear dagger]

1970s gaming

[kindred lotus]

i mean the combat width is so small you can just fort out but these forts will get bombed out

[manic iris]

i dont play much historical i forgot what AI does

[kindred lotus]

wym

[clear dagger]

also for some reason in that year the balken puppet goes to war with germany for no reason

[kindred lotus]

bro

ai attack inf is so crap

all u have to do is like

30ws\

and they wont be able to push

[clear dagger]

Five. Hundred. Thousand Cas.

[manic iris]

like when i attack po;lanmd will they bring troops in europe

[kindred lotus]

i was able to take out germany with only like 8 mils on military

[kindred lotus]

what year is it

[manic iris]

cuz last time i added italy they watched me die

[manic iris]

36 still

[kindred lotus]

what country r u

[manic iris]

hitler

[kindred lotus]

germany?

alright

[manic iris]

germany

[kindred lotus]

dude

italy and japan dont get involved

italy only joins after france collapses

theyre hardcoded to not join the war day 1

[manic iris]

how tf do i win against po;and and allies on 2 fronts bro

[kindred lotus]

also ur not even in a faction with japan

[lost dawn]

I joined the Axis and Germany didn't even send over any units.

[kindred lotus]

so idk how ud call them into ur war

[kindred lotus]

its do able

[manic iris]

when i do

[lost dawn]

So they are eating war score but not DOING ANYTHING

[kindred lotus]

you just put like

24 divisions on the maginot

entrench them

and push w mountaineers or tanks

[kindred lotus]

nah japan wont come all the way to europe

[manic iris]

not belgium?

[kindred lotus]

thats impossible

[kindred lotus]

why belgium

theyre not in the war

u dont declare on the benelux before you cap poland

[manic iris]

i tried to push maginot once i failed

like miserably

[clear dagger]

did you read a history book

[kindred lotus]

youre supposed to take down poland in max a month then rush for netherlands

[kindred lotus]

bro what

24 divisions are supposed to hold

against allied pushes

[manic iris]

yea it was like my 3rd save ever

[kindred lotus]

you push through the benelux

[manic iris]

so i had no idea

[clear dagger]

you do realize the germans went around the maginot after poland

[kindred lotus]

okay what economy path do u usually go for as germany

youre a begineer so i recommend recovering eco cuz mefo bills takes skill

[manic iris]

when i did holy roman empire i did the economic growth

but rn i did 4 year plan

[kindred lotus]

ya alt his germany only go for recovering eco

but since ur a starter and mefo relies on you conquering europe as fast as possible

go for recovering eco

[manic iris]

so my logic is u oppose hitler u go economic growth hitler 4 year plan

[kindred lotus]

ya that is true

but mefo bills takes good macro and u need to be fast

[manic iris]

i alr did 4 year plan tho uh

[kindred lotus]

otherwise you get mangled in 41

thats fine

[manic iris]

ill restart?

[kindred lotus]

if u did 4 year plan

just build max infra in hessen and westfalen

and build mils on there

build only mils

[manic iris]

no civs?

[kindred lotus]

cuz civs in mefo is useless

yes

and rush anchluss

and czechia

for the civs

[manic iris]

okay wait leme cancel all my civs

[kindred lotus]

no no

dont

cancelling is a waste of IC

wait for it to cancel

never cancel

unless its neccesary

[vague abyss]

we somehow got the encirclement and lost lives

[manic iris]

i did it then watched this

amazxing

[kindred lotus]

wait a sec

[manic iris]

ima restart im so stupid

[kindred lotus]

is this MP ?

[kindred lotus]

its fine

go watch a germany begineer guide

i learnt hoi4 at the start from watching youtubers

[manic iris]

ima do that im not gonna play rn

thanks for tips

[kindred lotus]

np

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tank-ww2-national-geographic-documentary-gif-16228136

its AI mods

I have 5000 hours in the game

[wide osprey]

Rzhev meat grinder, winter of 1941, colorized

🥀

[vague abyss]

fr

all thats left

[wide osprey]

bad there is no way to help them out

😔

at least a few hundred people

[wide osprey]

wait is this mod

[rich sand]

I'm so glad they added this

Now i don't have to go back and forth just to fill the slots

[blissful gust]

Hm

[jaunty heath]

intresting

[vague abyss]

we do kursk soon

[wide osprey]

💀

[sudden thistle]

175 factories is great

[grave phoenix]

175 in 42 is crazy

how can u even have so few at that point

[sudden thistle]

It’s the new meta

I get more factories by then and I just build behind the dniper

[zenith imp]

you're gonna have to conscript the entire soviet union to win ts

i stole money from my father to buy the new dlc

peace for now

[wide osprey]

🤯

i'm gonna tell your dad

[long valley]

i lowk read kursk as kirk

im cooked

[vague abyss]

hes just a marshall for finland the buffs are tiny

[vague abyss]

fr

[lethal ether]

state transfer tool 😡

[faint carbon]

from graveyard of empires to just graveryard

[blissful gust]

Hi

[runic zodiac]

this game is so damn hard. im trying to understand it but im still just clicking buttons. ck was so much easier to wrap my head around lmaoo

[shell sorrel]

Damn they really took that one ISP video to heart 😭

[wide osprey]

you know what i wanna do

[ripe slate]

Ooor

They happened to come with something that someone who very often plays/played HOI IV happens to have mentioned

[wide osprey]

[dry sleet]

I whish the did it more, there are things that are still pure clickfest cancer

[cinder parrot]

What could you possibly need while I’m fighting Türkiye

[solid prairie]

someone wanna play?

[cinder parrot]

Does bro have DLC?

[solid prairie]

yes

[cinder parrot]

Is it bad that I only play Bulgaria

[solid prairie]

?

[cinder parrot]

Bro

[solid prairie]

decline

[cinder parrot]

My faction is literally called “Balkan Axis”

Keyword BALKAN

[rich sand]

i also had a hard time understanding what buttons i'm clicking but watching playthroughs helped me out a lot

[lethal ether]

do you genuinely think ai is coded to read faction names

[tulip pollen]

they remembered the time aragon owned athens as a duchy

for 78 years

[runic zodiac]

i mean i have been, ive probably watched as much in terms of beginners guides and playthroughs as i have played (i watch in my uni classes sometimes when i probably should be doing work lmao) and whilst i get what buttons to click i n what order (for specific nations the guide so happens to talk about) at the start i dont really understand what its doing and why im doing it so after a couple months in game time i have no idea what to do. it took me a while to get crusader kings too but i got it way quicker and even when i didnt understand everything i still understood the reason for everything i did know (if that makes sense) so i at least felt myself get better whilst i was learning. i feel just as useless now as when i first purchased the game lmao

holy yap, my bad

clearly my brain is wired for 4x and not grand strategy lmao might have to go back to civ 6

[lethal ether]

how many hours do you have?

[fair compass]

whats the point of giving.. these things icons.. if they become instantly obsolete when you start the game.. 👀

[rich sand]

i'm a visual learner and i have experience in playing games like hoi4 so that's probably why i got the hang of it way easier

[terse skiff]

Don't think about video games in classes

[runic zodiac]

in civ 6? my steam is 250 but including other platforms probably closer to 400 hours likely more

[lethal ether]

in hoi4

it takes alot of time to learn what ure doing

just play the game and watch guides u will eventually learn

mess around and stuff

[rich sand]

yeah it's been 2 months since i started playing this game and i still don't know how to properly do navy 😭

[runic zodiac]

they're useless abroad classes, as soon as they're done i will never do use them and they're comically easy. im basically ona year long paid for gap year in another country

[lethal ether]

9 months and i just spam cruisers and destroyers

[rich sand]

real lmao i used to just spam subs but subs is shit rn so i don't do navy anymore

i just do battleships and cruisers cuz they are cool

[runic zodiac]

i think about 15hrs i believe not a lot by any metric but by this time in ck and civ 6 i could at least play the game and understood the basics

[cinder parrot]

i fell into a civil war and won

[tawdry thicket]

step 1: build empty dd
step 2: stack the best light gun
step 3: win

[cinder parrot]

always the Zveno

[terse skiff]

Use it to meet friends then. You never know what network you need in the future

[cinder parrot]

i hate the zveno sometimes

[rich sand]

noted

[terse skiff]

If you want to play video games you can just stay at home

[runic zodiac]

im in a class that i know everyone in, sitting at the back whilst the teacher waffles about korean politics in the 1990s (im a physics student back home)

[terse skiff]

Maybe you should learn it

[lethal ether]

pretty sure you need attendance to pass

[terse skiff]

The problem with stem students is they actually think people understand the world through numbers

[fair compass]

Devs missed the Opportunity to add these weapons into the swedish tech tree instead of using the generic icons 🥀

[runic zodiac]

maybe i should, but it doesnt help to the degree i just need to take classes to be allowed on a study year abroad otherwise its not a "STUDY year abroad". i do well on the exams and study for the tests. not like im failing cause i dont care. im not failing and i do care, i just dont enjoy sitting down for 3 hours listening to yap

[rich sand]

i was a HUMSS student and now studying polsci

i thought polsci is gonna be fun but it turned out to be false

[runic zodiac]

im doing well in the class? i understand the content and am passing with good grades...

[rich sand]

so i'm switching to psych next s.y

[terse skiff]

Devs missed the opportunity to make every country adopt the bob semple

[lethal ether]

devs missed the opportuinity to add vatican city weapons

[fair compass]

Devs missed the opportunity to make the inter-war light tank the little willy 🥀

[runic zodiac]

also as an actual stem student, i can promise you we do not. i think youve gotten your info on physics students from the big bang theory and young sheldon lmao

[terse skiff]

I was a math major

[runic zodiac]

oh yeah my bad, math people are weirdos

[terse skiff]

Trust me we're the superior major

[runic zodiac]

case in point

[terse skiff]

Against all scientific evidence stem majors think people think through scientific evidence

[stoic yarrow]

how dose fate of yugoslavia work

like how do you annex all of it

or pupet

[terse skiff]

No you just justify a war goal on them

[runic zodiac]

maybe, but ive not really met many like that. think most stem majors are normal people only exception is comp sci are annoying virgins who dont shut up, math students are a bit weird and without fail every single engineering student ive ever met is at least a little bit suicidal

[terse skiff]

Like technically you get cores on Slovenia but it takes too much time to get there

[stoic yarrow]

no i need to annex/ pupet them for autaky achived

[terse skiff]

What do you think you do after justifying? Sit there and do nothing?

[runic zodiac]

core science students are mostly normal people who are just good at their specific thing

[stoic yarrow]

your allies will take the states i want to

[lethal ether]

they wont?

[terse skiff]

Then don't invite them?

[lethal ether]

just dont call them in

yeah

[stoic yarrow]

what if they join the allies?

[terse skiff]

Just kick them out of the faction and attack them

[stoic yarrow]

what if its 1940

?

[terse skiff]

What if you annex them in war?

[stoic yarrow]

dude

[terse skiff]

You do know this is a war simulator right?

Justify then attack and occupy them

[stoic yarrow]

they have garate by romania

[lethal ether]

what if its 1975 and they join napoleons faction?

[stoic yarrow]

as well

[lethal ether]

ure germany right

[stoic yarrow]

fr

[stoic yarrow]

yes

[lethal ether]

and ure afraid of romania and yugoslavia?

what year is it?

[stoic yarrow]

no

bro

[lethal ether]

actually it doesnt even matter

[stoic yarrow]

omd

how do i do fate of yugoslvia

[lethal ether]

you click on the focus

what is this question

[stoic yarrow]

yess but howw do i get them not to deny

how do i deacrese thos chanses

[lethal ether]

in my 900 hours of hoi4 ive never seen them accept

not even in a video

[stoic yarrow]

k

[terse skiff]

You don't do it

It's a waste of pp and time

[stoic yarrow]

alr

[terse skiff]

You can either spend 9 pp and 45 days to get a war goal on Yugoslavia or 210 pp and 210 days to get it through focus. Which one is better?

[molten forge]

quick question

if austria is gone can you bypass anchulus?

[heavy vigil]

dont forget focus also can give other bonuses

[cinder parrot]

developed flying bombs as bulgaria, absolutely decimating the ottomans

[terse skiff]

Slovenia cores are not that useful even if you get them in 1936

[heavy vigil]

i mean like

from the 210 days

could be spend on army, air, eco

[grave sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/qing-beloved-qing-dynasty-locket-china-gif-26873563

[winged field]

*something something in Chinese- Empress declares war on the whole word.

[cinder parrot]

its so damn annoying playing as a country during operation barbarossa

[raven lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-am-i-looking-at-spaceballs-dark-helmet-gif-6840990039790842663

[safe wing]

Space balls mentioned

[raven lotus]

why does she look unimpressed?

[safe wing]

Rate this dumb mod I made

[solid prairie]

does someone know an good prussia mod

[fair compass]

how does this happen 😭

[steep rampart]

Good on you, from the Bulgaria run I did, I formed the third empire conquered Greece Yugoslavia and Romania, but I was in a deadlock against the Turks in Anatolia because I could only have a single army on it because my Germans failed Barbarossa and were nearly capped in dec 1944

[safe wing]

Germany must have balkanized

[grave sonnet]

I'm a simple guy I see china I click

[safe wing]

@grave sonnet don’t ask why I did this (I was bored)

[fair compass]

no lik

[grave sonnet]

Very happy family tree

[fair compass]

how does Mecklenburg

fight

MALTA

[safe wing]

So lore accurate Byzantine family

[fallen swift]

what will regimental support be

[grave sonnet]

Is the nation full of gamers why is there a computer national spirit

[fair compass]

💀

[fair compass]

no its battle royal mode

im using a battle royal mod

[winged field]

Regiment is every vertical column in division designer so every regiment should have a slot for it ig

Not 100% sure tho

[grave sonnet]

Wait what ,what is that

[winged field]

New dlc stuff

Not released yet

[grave sonnet]

Ah alr thx gang

[grave sonnet]

Happy they are adding new stuff to division designer

[rain loom]

i have obtained something which could scare every hoi4 player

[grave sonnet]

What

A shower?

[winged field]

Either it's gonna be great or absolute trash

[rain loom]

wait my hoi4 is loading

[winged field]

Nothing in btw

[grave sonnet]

True

[fair compass]

major south american war,,

[rain loom]

something happened in South America

the world is gonna end

[fair compass]

theres a war happening on every side of the planet right now 👀

[rain loom]

your eyes will burn

[grave sonnet]

Eh

[robust basalt]

what does the map look like? looks like some custom game setup

[rain loom]

good eh or bad eh?

[fair compass]

Cough

[grave sonnet]

Good theory just add more stuff and more support companies

But yeah looks good so far

Just evolve it

[rain loom]

wait what

[grave sonnet]

Make it 36 width

[rain loom]

i was prepping to get nuked

[robust basalt]

absolutely disgusting, love it

[rain loom]

support companies? idk which ones to have ill be honest

[grave sonnet]

Hospital,Logistics and Flame Tank

[rain loom]

ok

[fair compass]

Thank you, it's killing my computer

[rain loom]

flame tank is out of budget i reckon

[grave sonnet]

You can keep the support art & aa

[rain loom]

will hold against onion?

[robust basalt]

yeah I can see why you didnt decolonise africa in this case

[fair compass]

because i dint wanna deal with nations i'd have to naval invade if i survived and moved on to africa

well sujre i gotta deal with norway and iceland but theyre closer

so i wont have to waste too much navy

[robust basalt]

that and the lag

Ive seen a full decolonised africa game, Ive seen the horrors

[grave sonnet]

Yeah

It will

[rain loom]

yay

: D

[tulip widget]

Absolutely disgusting
At least Africa isn't decolonized. The lag would be unbearable.

[fair compass]

german unifcation wars 👀

[fallen swift]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432423871373508751/1506739224265625791/jankujuss.gif

[fair compass]

me watching the hoi4 ai break the frontline by moving 4 goddamn divisions to the other side of the front (it'll leave 1 spot open for the enemy to walk in)

[grave sonnet]

Random Mongolian gibberish

[oak mantle]

genghis khan rolling in his grave rn

[terse skiff]

France does do that to the Maginot

[fair compass]

well denmark (me) just did it to finland and began losing all my IRON IN SWEDEN

[oak mantle]

yo mods?!??! i thought slurs werent allowed here

[opaque zinc]

😹

[prisma steppe]

just use field marshall (marshall tito refrence?!?!?) orders, then the frontline doesnt get broken, except for a few provinces, like in italy, greece and crimea

[fair compass]

i was in scandinavia though not italy, greece nor crimea

[prisma steppe]

denmark?

[rose plover]

M*ginot

[molten forge]

how does china forced loans work?

[manic iris]

hi

[grave sonnet]

We don't use that word here

[manic iris]

how is everyone doing

[grave sonnet]

Helo

[grave sonnet]

Pretty good wbu

[manic iris]

oh hi how are you

good good

im watching a germany bittersteel vid

[grave sonnet]

Last time I watched bro was like 2 years ago

[manic iris]

im tryna get better

i suck

i failed MISERABLY at that fascist UK

[grave sonnet]

I once failed as Germany when I was new

It's not the end

Take Ur time to get better

[manic iris]

i hope so

[sly venture]

niceee

[cursive oxide]

Do i paradrop the French in 1936 as Italy?

[tulip thorn]

yes

[dusky burrow]

if you've built up enough by then

[oak mantle]

Is there a way to unite asia and core everything as japan or can you only get like occupation laws and stuff

[winged field]

btw whats like really good template for paratroopers, I didnt see any for some time. Logistics for sure, support arty, signals, maybe engineers?-(not sure about them) and hospitals, width wise go like full 40 if I want them to survive for long?

[dusky burrow]

For France just use 1/0

You just need to get there

[winged field]

Oh. I was overcomplicating it too much xD

[cinder turret]

Where can i disable "Man The Guns", so i dont have to design ships while playing with a new player?

[winged field]

It's part of vanilla now

[cinder turret]

....

[winged field]

I doubt you can turn it off

[manic iris]

ok guys im watching bitersteel and i literaly cant keep track of everything this dude says

[winged field]

Correct me if I'm wrong

[prisma steppe]

holy is this spain civil war cursed

[split bane]

You can't

[uncut pollen]

Maybe scroll down to content

Idk

[manic iris]

i cant keep up

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/downfall-steiner-mein-fuhrer-steiner-gif-24733130

[cinder turret]

xD, i love the features, but it's tooo much when you are learning new players to play hoi4. I may just wait with introducing the navy

[manic iris]

does anyone here else watch bittersteel?

[sly venture]

i feel like we got this

[manic iris]

how do u have the nerves to play anything in asia

[sly venture]

this is a mod

[safe wing]

https://youtu.be/8QieLk_9Ubs?si=vKvCukfOH391Ixle

[quasi osprey]

britain is probably preparing its guarantees😂

[safe wing]

Outdated as GDR added another path

Still a good funny video

[manic iris]

this is TOO muchh for my brain

[heavy vigil]

ok nvm he hasnt wheeled his lights yet

[viscid mason]

never wheel your lights

[manic iris]

why did someone put the serbia flag what

[heavy vigil]

crazy tank btw

csg

[viscid mason]

that was me lmao

[safe wing]

@viscid mason

[manic iris]

dude is legit saying 100 things per second i cant actualy keep up

[heavy vigil]

doesnt look like hes using extra ammo

🥀

[sly venture]

blitzkrieg invented in ww1

[viscid mason]

Hi Al

[manic iris]

this is too much for my 90 hour brain

[heavy vigil]

a billion engine clicks too

[viscid mason]

Also Al as in

[grave sonnet]

I'll be 100% honest he's buns

[sly venture]

\

[grave sonnet]

He uses line arty

[safe wing]

Hey I found a goofy documentary style video

[grave sonnet]

Leave the Fengtian alone they are my favourite war lord

[manic iris]

do i really gotta learn to click the exact ship and click it at the exat fleet thing and put it exactly there and make a factory EXACTLY at that spot

[sly venture]

we are libarating asia

[grave sonnet]

Ion even use navy

I just steal it