#hoi4-general
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yo
this is my plan bro
im justifying against syria on feb 22nd, by oct 19th i let france capitulate me and turn me democratic, i keep all of germanys focus tree paths though and have them all unlocked for when i turn democratic
with that being the case does austria have to be fascist for me to do anchluss as democratic germany
ik im just asking
i would like to correct myself, i am the central powers fire brigade
what
the war for democracy, holy moly
i have killed france, forced italy to surrender, pushed down the entire balkan, and soon whill help in russia
didnt even need to walk in russia, they just surrendered.
As greece how long do i have until italy starts eyeing me up like a piece of meat om historical i plan to flip fascist but i wanna get some more eco focuses done
wut- is that new-?
Wait
LITHUANIA DECLARED ON POLAND?
well i guess ussr not existing domehow really screwed thingsnup
But seriously tho its july 38
How long do j have before italy decides i look like a nice snac
Also yall think paradox is brave enough tk make a gun designer
Or would the devs would be heralded as heratics
hell no

Yeah I hope not
that happends every now and then and poland takes everything except the lithuanian coastal tiles
huh...
got quite a chunk out of france, i aint complaining
recreating the Angevin Empire I see
Iosif Stalin on the throne of Poland lmao
and it's 1936 too lmao
unironically the only reason i joined lmao
Richard the Lionheart approves
Kill the Ottomans and retake Jerusalem
i wasnt able in the war but i will "tomorrow" (its 2:30 my time-)
Worst timeline for poland
time for the Third Crusade II
Welp, back to slop China runs
I hope Wilhelm doesn't drown in a river
(reference to how Fredrick Barbarossa died)
George*
I was referencing how the Holy Roman Emperor died in the third crusade
he was supposed to link up with Richard and Philip
isnt it technically the tenth by now then-?
its a joke/history reference
anyways gn
gn
meanwhile russia gets off light
habsburg russia
sounds fun to play
a
Czechslovakia and friends against the world 🥹
well it's just the british and japanese it should be fine
probably save ireland first
still probably good to have a foothold to station troops and planes for a UK invasion from
why is the uk so goddamn strong
its okay italy naval invaded them from who knows where
and the raj became a major
Does anyone have the name or link to that mod that zooms in on Japan and you play as warring factions?
does hungary have enough supply?
?
does anybdy know if its still possible to form european union as democratic germany
tou need to go down the focus path i think
oh wow
idk tho i dont do it
i had france capitulate nazi germany so they could make me democratic germany
but the formation option isnt appearing in the decisions at all
What he said
every state has max forts, did I turn the Qing into an overkilled empire?
is integrated economics a focus or something
Yes
rip missing sprites
do any code deep divers know how the "dominate japan" focus works after ncns. is it still a flat 10% chance and is it a seeded event that generates at the creation of the save file?
Let's say it probably is seeded
Because there are some cases it really shouldn't have worked
i meant the fact that having it be a 10% flat chance no matter if you're god himself or tannu tuva seems outdated, thought it mightve changed in ncns
guys, can i roll back the game's version for achievements?
as far as the achievement is possible in
also
the achievement needed to have existed in 1.0
I didnt make the mod, also do I dare?
so like, you cant do battle royale before ncns
i roolled back to 1.2.2
so i can get the base game achievemnts
bc montezuma's revenge is impossible now
then you should be fine
1000 midget subs, what could possibly go wrong
mate. itt's 1901
why are you making sams
dont you mean how

depends on how much you care about larp. the requirements only state that you need to control the former mexican empire states. i just suicide rushed into the usa until i took each city that gave me control of the state (Los Angeles for California etc) then stretched out super thin and snaked around until i took the cities
its not impossible though
yes but the us is buffed now
and you have the stupid mexican focus tree
they build more divisions faster
Holy cursed
Skill issue honestly. The US is pants
Do they?
why
yes, but mexico is also a backwater and takes until 1940 to face tthe us
The portrait and on top of that 67 divisions
(on 1.17
Who knew taking on a major as a minor power might be difficult
the portrait mod has become surface ball knowledge atp, so many guners in this game
there was a terroristt that attacked a mosque and he had hoi4, all his mods were anime portrairts,,,
Wait, this isn't GWX, what mod is this
piss off
Rise of Nations, with changes I made
Neat
when i pull a push door and some genius says you have to push it like my next option was to ram it like the kool aid man
mmm
still daladier
ill have you know that I am actually am a muslim, so watch it *sshole
We truly back in 2016
still chamberlain
ok
ooooh
prick
huh, odd. its supposed to be possible
then again thats something that makes a paradox game playable so it likely got patched out
When there, please upvote my Langley bug report lol
thhe uk tree is the SAME GODDAMN THING AS IT IS NOW LOLLLLLLL
Field marshal cap was introduced with waking the tiger
Same historical, no alt hist
Huh, defense of the pacific is locked under it
So there was a reason to do it besides have Japan blow you up
They removed it because it makes it look like the US made Pearl Harbor happen
Flags larger as well
add an mio but yeah sure why not
kinky
Hush
Mandate of Palestine must become the promised land again
But in order to do that we must break free
mfw i forgot to update my troop template before going to war with turkey as greece so now im in a death war
Just had a wild ai experience
Went down democratic Germany (best path ever)
and tried doing EU
Me uk and Bulgaria were the only non communist/fascist nations
Poland and France were communist
ngl im probs gonna have to hold out till 100 percent world tension
so i can join axis
i smell the ban already
uhhuh
certain advisors, lend lease, warscore in wars, etc etc
building in your own country too iirc
i was just gonna ask why you're in the israel discord server
guess we found out
How to gain war score and is there any specific lend lease to help
Convoys are good
I got plenty
Wait shit i thought you meant amnexing a subject
I accidentally clicked Smth and I hit a bunch so I can give them
There is a continuous focus at the bottom left corner allowing you to gain autonomy
How's it called
Open your focus tree
And what's a continuous focus
A focus you can use forever for a buff after 10 focuses
Oh wow
It should say increase automony
server when
?
Alr
Also just send your troops to battle that will gain automony too
Cause we need to boost our production and the filthy Brits tend to take all of our factories
We sent them from Israel to German occupies Belgium
Guess which under equipped exhausted army got it's asses handed to them
Oof. Anyways yeah the real answer is just patience. As I remembered doing the freegypt achivement and that took a long time to complete forgot how long.
Well we did get tanks
Well add them
- marine corps to be made
It's just we have like 3 dudes and a carrot left for manpower
Everyone is mad we sent them from Jerusalem to God forsaken Britain
They attempted to kill our general 9 times and me twice
Only reason they failed was due to the fact British food sucks so much they were dead from it before they killed anyone
Including the germans
lend lease value is determined by ic value, so produce the things with the highest production cap and production output values
war scoare is gained by fighting in wars, you can see how it is distributed in a war screen
Production cap? So rifles 😭
Cause that's the only thing my single military factory has in stock
The docks are making a ship but it won't be done until 1943
How much do convoys give you for automony?
I haven't played a puppets in a long time
Idk
Hello liv. Not sure if thats the best idea considering small puppets states dont have the best production in the first place.
yeah that's true
1 military factory 😭 and I'm building rocket sites rn 😭😭
Those will take 9 years and a mule to be done
Yeah it really is just time is the answer. But dont forget to go through your economic focuses. Trust me I played Egypt for the achivement.
yeah just build mils
but yeah
it's going to be slow as a country as small as palestine
Also dont build the rocket sites those are pointless just build factories for now.
rocket sites don't seem particularly worth it until late game when you can mass manufacture rockets and nukes
and you won't be doing that as a one-state country
But rockets are cool
yes
Just seems like a wasted research slot
Very niche imo
if you're playing as like
For singleplayer at least
soviet
its worth it
but singleplayer
its not worth
its only worth in mp
in singleplayer you can just shit out tons of operatives
I don’t play mp
Yea
oh then its not worth it
Especially since they lowered capture chance
anyone down to do a hoi4 mega campaign w me this weekend?
My planes are usually just heavy machine guns and a good engine
and enough infantry to fill out combatwidth
For fighters
and they just die
you dont need tanks or a big ass army
18 width infantry works
but preferably 36
for pushing
and just make
shit tons of cas
oh
I do want to play uh Soviet Union
US can be fun
Make huge navy, wipe out the Japanese
Make large army, wipe out the Germans
I just want to get the Georgia achievement
Though dont make too many capitals or the British get upset
Or you just have the British invade you because of it and take out the British empire quickly
That seems super cool
I know
Still would be interesting
Plus I have guitar hero to play
My friend wants me to play kx
Kaiserredux is an experience
special force
Fun wacky time
rangers is good but they're very niche
Spec ops are cheap and nice
I think they meant it is bad they dont use them
your SF will typically have around 1500 soft with air and good gens
its more than enough to melts any AI divs
I cant be bothered to wait for planning bonus for that lol
That still takes time
and you should always have planning bonus before war?
or your troops just gonna miss out 80% stats
planning is meta
Yeah build up planning before the war
Sure is meta
Doesn’t France get crazy planning
just battle plan
I have no planning, but they have no entrenchment
I find micro fun
but it ruins your planning
So I do that instead of 36 width inf bricks
Sometimes you do have to micro in single player
and stuff
unless you're playing as france
Not every country has insane production for meta divisions
its not needed
meta divs doesn't require insane IC
just SF
its just
literal a infantry div
just a bit more expensive
but 5x stats
i dont find the reason why you ruin your planning and dont make SF
I don’t ruin my planning
I've tried to use rangers, but I could never find its niche
rangers is only good in russia/france
I dont ruin planning, I'm just impatient and I'm never punished
do you have arms against tyranny
i mean rangers is good in other places as well
but its kinda niche
mountaineers just have more stats per combat width
pinnable comment
I do I again was trying to say that me not using it is bad
Not sf
Sf isn’t bad
ah i see
I have all dlc except bftb taal and pfot
And graveyard of empires
I forget that even exists
So you got the important ones
NCNS has its issues, but it wasn't the worst dlc
I think people are still complaining about the naval invasion changes
idk what is china meta but uhh i think generally just spam inf with no support eq
and go purely on guns in production
ig
you will have shit supply but idk
You have to, because you cant gain production efficiency
I make trucks just one factory on trucks for better supply than Japan
its been like 1 year since my last time touching china
and that wasn't a dlc change, that was a change in the base game
china is pretty non enjoyable to play
I use guanxi and guandong for their troops for garrisoning coast along with some of my divisions
I dont think I've ever needed to motorize supply as China except between Beijing area and Mukden area
And the other factories go on guns and I put all other troops on the border with Japan
Yeah. But people blamed the dlc for it
It makes a small difference but it’s worth it in my opinion
Someone literally thought you were limited to 2 divs for naval invasions
Garrisoning the coast is the most important part tho if h
Though
And I usually use marker for guns
Market
Cause once you get out of the gun deficit you can push Japan
I dont think it matters too much
It’s annoying but it’s not horrible
With 1940 naval invasion tech and marine doctrine, I was able to do a 72 division D-Day
It was peak
It’s so weird I either see Germany suck ass or genuinely pull off the craziest game ever
Although them pulling off the craziest game I’ve ever seen for them was due to me invading the Soviet Union
Not Sheep's?
Expert AI cheats
its ok
I just do achievements if I’m being honest
That's the point
you can choose the difficulty
but in sheep
you gotta be some type of sweats
in order to play the game
What Sheep's AI does, you can do as well
I successfully held as the Soviets in Sheep's
hello yalls
And pushed back
How does the ai act in sheep’s
In vanilla they just push as much as possible no matter how much they’re losing
you prob didn't try the meta germany sheep AI
It uses the MP meta and the ai coordinates with each other
its pretty much unbeatable
Oh, I sucked as Germany
I stalemated
Sheeps isnt that hard tbh
I don’t even know the meta
go try out 2x boosted sheep buddy 💀
It goes against my non optimal playstyle
Same
I do like mp more than sheeps though
I don’t know Meta anything
same
I just try and figure out what works
hello jon
Hello Jon
Though College played with non meta templates and did well against Sheep's
they're more annoying to play against than a player honestly
I'd rather play a random hosted mp game
He just used a ton of paratroopers
i'd too but i dont have hoi4
💀
too broke in this economy
I just play against vanilla Ai and have a power fantasy
Yeah i guess bro
same
He’s larping
balls
yeah ik
but idc if i get banned honestly
i dont have hoi4 so
im just here to talk for fun lol
Hoi4 is really fun
Well, there was another person with a similar thing
Didn't own the game but watched it
Had the worst takes of what to add into the game
The other stickman youtuber always wins
Microtransactions would be PEAK
His videos are good
The loot box mod in hoi4 was popular for a bit
Thats what hoi4 needs
Double the price for mp games
Dude is 12
Exactly
On sale, Base game is $15 i think
hoi4 is really expensive in developing countries
And base game is quite playable
we need dlcs and stuff
Oh I forgot
base game is pretty ass
My friend told me about that
DLC is actually not needed
yeah
I turned off dlc and still had fun
Actually no
You play with what the host has
You just dont see some graphics and have generic leaders
alot of mods require bunch of dlcs
yeah thats the problem lol
Not really
Only mods I’ve seen for that is like
allies pretty much wins for 90% of the time
The expanded Austria mod
Just like irl lol
and russia is guaranteed to lose
Soviets stall so the Allies can win
against an competent axis an min-max soviet can stall max is 1943
The ai is just dumb
axis typically kills soviet in august 1942
Yea
and ofc dday right after barb begin
Yeah pretty much
is it out yet
and uhh lots of meme strats can be used on vanilla
Things should be balanced around what happened irl
Allies and Soviets stomp Axis
100% of the time 
if gigagaria is allowed axis wins 100% of the time 💀
its just the worst thing to have in vanilla
if you dont have a proper ruleset
What is bulgaria's compliance gain again
Sheesh
with harsh quotas you have like 180% of their factories
IC from thin air
a proper gigagaria setup will have like 500 facs in 1942
or even more
idk
Is this where you do Churchill's plan and invade the balkans
its just sufferring to fight against
with gigagaria soviet die even faster
russia is just a suffering country to play
no one wants to play russia
probably, but the balkans are huge
is last update out yet
the whole reason i did this was so i could have a hist game and do the race for berlin
but the german ai is so buns today specifically
literally cranked out 4m men just for nothing
german AI is in a broken state
you should've max buffed it
but it will still be buns
Which is funny, because germany is one of the most op nations in the game
yet the ai sucks
its not op
Germany is pretty op
its not...
Its literally creative mode
How so?
germany depends alot on their minors if you're in a competitive game
The mio's are pretty good
How the hell do I break thru Italys Austrian border as Germany
Thats just mp in a nutshell
in single player every country is good
a major cant solo everything
cuz AI is awful
The minor nations are needed
hello tank
in singleplayer everything is good
Yeah no shit
my 6 width can beat anyone in sp
vanilla is awful to play
But everyone has a right to a opinion
Sheeps is fun and all but it gets old
You are just playing a easier mp
its fun until you try out 2x buffed sheep AI
Why play something if its not fun
idk how to enjoy in vanilla sp honestly
sufferring is fun
Right
Hello all. Mengkukuo tree released yet?
no
Check back in in a few years
Always a shame
Well then thats your play style
You enjoy sheeps
I enjoy just normal singleplayer
i dont enjoy
i suffer
but i enjoy sufferring
normal sp is too boring to play
AI just die within seconds
and maybe some mp every once and awhile
it is tho, its probably the 2nd or 3rd most op nation
once you touched competitive games you will no longer enjoy sp honestly 💀
I have
And thats the type of mp I like to play
Actual good comp hoi4 with decent hosting
I just do
thats pretty tuff
battle of berlin
Jarvis type skill issue and hit enter
😭
I still remember my first hoi4 game
when I first got it
Played germany, and beat everyone up to the ussr
Ran out of supply and equipment lol
fire
my first hoi4 game was italy
i just got beaten in everywhere
allies landed in italy
and boom
civil war
damn
When i first started playing bba wasnt even out
That came out like 1-2 weeks after I started
bba?
oh
So italy still had the old horrible tree
Every plane going down
perhaps
and you dont need signal company on mountaineers
you're supposed to push with mountaineers i assume
do you have any other types of divisions
Half of the world sending volunteers to Ukraine lmao like rl
whats the dif between rocket arty and normal arty support lmao
why tf would people use it then
because they dont know shh are better or they dont have the dlc for it
but is rocket arty better or worst than normal arty?
worse, but it's not that much worse
lmao i just realized there were both arty supports in the template
is it useful for some regions or more cheap
or its just a
wtv
normal arty will be the
then
normal arty is better until 1943
but the difference is like a few points of soft attack, a few points of breakthrough, and a few points of ic
so after that i should do a 50/50?
or just straight up spamming rockets
because apparently swears arent allowed
ball aint a swear word 😭
son
if you have small infantry like 8/0s then you can have two of the slots be support artillery and support rocket artillery
what is 8/0?
Nuh uh
dang it
read what the first word in that sentence was
got my ahh slimmed already
8 inf 0 line artillery (we don't recommend line artillery)
only arty support then
i love my 1/15 infantry ❤️
why do i always run out of manpower man 😭
infantry support company lmao
i got a better template for late games too
its meta dw
cool garrison unit
chad
motorized rocket artillery ❤️
not that good honestly
mountaineers are still better
armored cars only is the most fun
i like being able to go fast
mountaineers my beloved mentioned ❤️
i love spamming them as italy
only country i have ever played btw
how does anyone wins in hoi4
larp king
or its just until you get bored and change the country
for italy
first order of business is make mountaineers
second order of buisness is either make air or tanks
third order of business is crushing enemies
nahh, first business is navy
3000 aircraft carriers 🔥
2 civs ❤️
britain is THAT hard to kill bro i need it
exactly why you use air
nah, planes wont give me naval superiority to do naval invasions
are you
I changed the revolution so that they dont become a republic, because republics are D tier at best
1940 support arty versus support rocket
is your leader a vampire
yes
i aint lying bro, i just spam navy just to naval invade them
just making sure
is there any other easy way to do it?
rocket is only better in like giga late game
but its just not worth it
just go for support arty
navs
the fuh is navs
naval bombers
Wow thats trash
this is what it is in 1942
u get bonuses btw
That should be 1940
huh
This is what happens in 1943
if you have flying bomb then rocket artillery > normal artillery in 1942
They bully people
how is it for 1944
there are no more upgrades
yeah the artillery tree goes to 1943 only
spamming rocket support for my mountaneers
I think the most satisfying things in the world are
- invading a country that you just sweep it
- Loosing really badly then being able to win
melting enemy divisions 🤤
if you're stuck making such divisions in 1940 then welp, but it isn't the worst
- Democratic Germany
my industry in 1940 aint that good for allat 💔
i mean theres always field hospital
just which country are you playing
i legit sended just men with rifles until 1943 when i gave them ACTUAL support
italy
should i use em too
italy's wealthy enough to afford 9/0s with support companies
somehow yes
but its like
2 of tanks
maybe 3
AND super heavy tank support
i have more sht than heavies
wtf
maybe i should reduce the industry i spend with them frfr
1.2 thousand super heavies feel like a crime when i have red numbers in my heavies
what is tha
screenshot
what do they look like? like this?
okay
no
don't do that they end up decreasing your stats
i dont care when i already melted my enemy units
like
frfr
is that or
the brits are really weak
34w?
i've been playing for so long that my controls are starting to give up
-94 steel
i said 1.2 bcos i remembered that in like, 1944
address the elephant in the room
captures and capitulations
yeah, things go hard when there is no soviet union or usa to interact with
but yeah
i had 1.2k before
i mean maybe if we didnt make the most random production
gng lemme play with my super heavy tanks 🙏
😭
btw what are modern tanks for
Nothing
gawd damnit
They are worse than interwar lol
wasting chromium
my goat knows what hes doing
God I love to waste chromium
hey its not wasting if he planned to use it
I always waste it
i cant wait to pass from civilian diff to recruit, or even regular
Civilian doesnt do anything
Just gives you a few buffs
Ai is the exact same
plenty of good guides on yt
nah i'd rather play it raw with my friends
is this evil?
i guess u do u
i dont think that is mussolini
its just mussolini with hair calm down
he's always looked like that
mussolini was bald? 😭
lmao no wonder why he got hanged
why is islamist an ideology for italy 😭
lore accurate
theres bigger fish to fry in that image
how tf did you get 55 million manpower
islamist italy larp
i mean the children can probably fight well
267, ha.
germany tried that in 1945 and didnt go well
it clearly worked well
more reasonable than italy having 55 million 😭
what could possibly be the point of this mod
240 max units per commander 🤤
fym 1905
Thats rise of nations with a portrait mod
i just realised
o never played that
theres js so much going on in one image 😭
how do u take so many time to conquer all the world 😭
I dont even know what you can do in the mod tbh
Last I played the content was pretty limited
aight man wtf is this
Luxembourg
what
Thats hoi4 duh
where are you getting that free manpower lmao
5 MILLION CONVOYS TO CHINA 🔥 🗣️
magic portrait
i see
How many mods are in this playset
aye man watchout, you have free research slots
all of them
Damn
I already researched everything
Getting all hoi4 mods to work at once is impressive
everything?
is 1905 fym everything
look at the year
2030 super ships in 1906
how do you research everything by 6 years into the game
actually doesnt the tech tree go to 2050s+
research all 💪
idk why he has that, I didnt make the mod
I’ve never had a bad democratic Germany run
which mod is the one for 1905?
Rise of nations
Quite literally the greatest focus path ever
EaW reference
interesting
rise of nations, but I am making alot of changes because these idiots never finished it
Starlight glimmer reference
She must make copies of a manifesto
Neither have I
I played it when the diarchy came out
About to start a playthrough though
and not since
Same
I played both of them
The zebra kingdom was pretty fun long playthrough
I think I spent 15 hours on that save
when cixi is so bad that she pisses off everyone
Wait have they stopped working on it?
they are slow as shit
So pretty much nothing to being done to it
and theres still alot to do but hey its better then nothing
True
yeah
Communist Emperor Grover was the last game I played before diarchy and that was fun imo
the only thing Cixi did right was to make Puyi the emperor
I've never done any of the communist paths lol
and if the republicans didnt jump the gun he likely would have stayed on the throne
Well exept for stalliongrad and river republic
i tried the one for the seahorses
i wasnt a fan of them replacing queen novo
Hippogriffonia?
Ah
I also did that communist path
I forgot about that one
Atleast they didnt kill her lol
Or her family
you had potential in real life Portugal! but you chose a republic!
republics are shit! except for 1
yeah but i still think we can have a commie queen
Yeah why not
Communist queen novo
Whats next communist celestia
damn thats MASSIVE
3 yips for our Glorious Red Moon in the Sky!!!
Praise thy red sun