#hoi4-general
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Didn't someone high up at the studio step down from Hoi because they were making a "new project"
yea
Yeah it was Arheo
Today I'm stepping down as Game Director on Hearts of Iron. This is something thatโs been in the works for quite a while, as I've been gradually devoting more of my time to an upcoming secret project at Paradox you'll get to hear about in the future.
This was less than a month ago
Chat, is this bad boy enough to take down a US aircraft carrier?
tenno heika banzai!
never ask those people what their forefathers did in china
or bataan
The museum description for how the pacific war started is funny
for a country that places such a huge emphasis on honour, i find it rather dishonourable that they still keep on not doing anything about what they did
That's just every country
what did you expect
well germany apologised
They only apologize when it's convenient to apologize
Nothing less
Yeah after securing trade deals
my country said nothing about the boatmen exodus after 1975
true
Japan also apologized in the 1970s when it meant access to markets
did they
And ofc Germany kept the clean Wehrmacht myth going on until this day
And don't even mention what happened in Namibia
sad.. no nzl tree..
RIP dreams of german-fascist path about samoa...
RIP peaceful democratic path based around the moriori... (pacifist civilization/culture)
i hope australia will be able to core madagascar
They have their own content packs right?
free content but no full tree
15 foci
also fair
I guess the regiment supports will be in the next full dlc?
sent a galaxy rip
Can anyone tell me what collaboration government does? And is in vanilla or la resistance only?
@white dome imagine people having a life and stuff important happens, never had emergancy in your life?
la resistance feature, you put spies into a non-allied country, they build intelligence networks, and then once you hit 50 you can begin collaboration government
collaboration government decreases surrender threshold and upon surrender increases collaboration (thereby reducing resistance too)
How much leas surrender limit we talking?
up to 15% i believe
like can i js drop a paratrooper division in paris and watch magic happen?
probably need a few more cities but yeah that could happen
Oh, alr so does that mean la resistance is worth it?
yeah, if you have no step back, by blood alone, and arms against tyranny already
yes
id place it on the same level as nsb
just get either
100% collab = +30% surrender limit and 100% collab level if that country capitulated to you
i think they decreased it in a recent patch
Really? I need to check it then
i guess it will be mostly useless, like almost all staff added after nsb
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day 10 million of asking paradox to add a gamerule that deletes last stand
i thought there will be something like "gamerule that deletes africa and south america"
Mods
any singleplayer vcs here?
I believe not
does agility matter for strat bombers?
From what I know, not really
You should prioritize range and armor but take this with a grain of salt as im not an air player
when do yall think is the next hoi4 sale
i wanna get no step back dlc
also if i have no step back can the enemy AI also design their own tanks
as if you can get agility on thm in the first place
Not sure but you can probably get them cheaper on instant gaming or something
(I hope this isnt against rule 6)
instant gaming is kinda mid ngl
Grisha must go!
Grisha: who must go? 1.78 million dance ๐ฅ ๐ฅ ๐ฅ
huh
who is bokoen
Oh no! Anyway
nobody cares about Grisha
I think Romania is gonna win
what's that
and what it has to do with hoi

Danish youtuber that makes vids on funny stuff that happens in their MP hoi4 (mainly), eu4, victoria, ICBM and gates of hell games
And some occasional content
It's fun to watch
Now time for new players to use this, use it incorrectly, complain it doesnโt work, then go back to line arty!
Ok guys
Vanilla hoi4 holland EU path
Lessons from the low countries +10 entrenchment
Gbp defensive postures +20% entrenchment
Entrenchment company
Prepare the inundation lines +50% defense
Henri winkelman chief of army +10% defense
Infantry expert advisor +15% defense
vanilla hoi4 and the other dlcs like la resistance and whatever also give a few more bonuses
Artillery should get a buff
holland ?
๐ช๐ช in 68 minutes Estonia has crippled the heart of the world fleets
small league is calling
the humble spy network
๐ช๐ช ESTONIA is at WAR and begins its rise to become the NEW SUPERPOWER of the 21st century
๐ช๐ช NO LONGER was president leader MRM limited in his options he had a Estonian population that was angry and unified and desired revenge against RUSSIA
All of the world belongs to Bohemia?
i mean in the australia focus there will be a focus that refrences it
why no one reacts to my messages
cause they weak, just like estonia
๐ช๐ช MRM for the LAST TIME
๐ช๐ช TALLINN HAS GONE DARK WE ARE OUT OF OPTIONS
austro-eurasia imperial british union
๐ช๐ช A ATTACK ON THE WORLD IS PREPARED THE PRESIDENT WILL AUTHORIZE
what
No one cares
dont be mean, give proper respone
hell yeah man im now australia main
daughter๐ญ๐ญ
we popmaxxing like its modded
agreed
maxwell ๐ญ
nah id spam horses
mongol empire ahh war tactics
cant wait for aus tree to come out and its another slop dlc
we have exponential pop graph, x0.12% to x2.21%
dayum
per month
im waiting for them to add lichenstein
they played a big role in ww2 tho i appreciate the effort
holy is the starting world eco small
stop cheating
Wth is this PNF ahh demographic policy
500 farms
Hahaaa 727 political power
Do reichcomisariats count as puppets for you? Then historical works okay
actual puppets
like i am gonna release some of my lands as puppets cause i have funny mod
wanna larp as (real) HRE
ideology tho is irrelevant
Maybe communist germany, their main mechanic is to ignite civilian wars throughout your neighbors, and puppet red if red side wins
I dont know about hre
i think democracy gets more boni through middle europa
commies get to annex the puppets, which i dont want
like i wanna do this kinda but with puppets
wait a minute
can i do volkist germany and still do middle europa foci?
thats the point
there are no checks that say no, soo
still gonna stay monarchy cus the laws i can do with monarchy are great and kinda op
good main template for start of the game (millennium dawn mod)?
only the doctrines and i think (forest)rangers
i'm going to use it until 2010 ig
i think they are too big
it's ok
57 cw? kinda big
Millenium Dawn has different cw
yeah
ty
i LIKE MD
what is the cw over there compared to vanilla?
I'm pretty sure it's more than Vannila
i like playing as Estonia in MD
what units are these?
a sec
div costs more then a ww2 super heavy battleship with everything maxxed
armored infantry
same
actually i wasn't thinking about templates in the md before
i was using the templates that you have from the start
the org is still ass
ะ ัััะบะธ?
maybe
Org Doesn't matter
Plus 36 for an attacking div isn't bad
org does matter
@bronze glade there are 2 mods for MD that does add new combat battalions
37 org is ok actually
That's a defensive division...?
He is using an attacking one
if its inf, the holding unit? its ass
for armored division
so it is armored, thought armored inf is just motorised but modern
Ain't no holding infantry gonna have 700+ soft attack
nvm then
its md, you never know,
Helicopter Iraq goes crazy
But yeah
Md isn't that crazy
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replace shovel with MP and field hospital for more hp and org recovery rate
what is that
TFR?
peak mod
So whoever suggested poland
As a good nation to learn all the dlcs
Unironically thank you
Im learning at a blitzkreig rate
Tbf i find myself doing far better with trial by fire
For example im.learning agencies at a good bit
The cant trade is easy to get rid of
for that poland is good, yes but there are better ones
if you make your tank have a higher reliability than 81%, someone's going to fall out the window and its not gonna be me
just keep it around 80%
ur just wasting production cost
43ic for 37 soft attack??
you don't need reliability if you can produce enough tanks to outnumber your enemy
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i like taking over baltics finland and sweded as Estonia in MD
then taking on belarus and Russia
im testing different templates rn
yeah just dont make it too expensive
yeah ik
speed isnt that important if you're gonna mow them down anyway
counterpunch bro ๐
im gonna take on belarus and Russia alone as Estonia
in MD
it can be done
ill annex first baltics then finland and sweden
then declare war on Belarus and russia
and basically start my own OP barbarossa
lol no
someone wanna play?
nice knowing you
based profile description
give this man a "true"
thoughts on mine which is my latest addiction
i do
is it worth building heavy tank destroyers in single player? I know they are good in multiplayer
but im not sure that the ai builds enough tanks for it to be worthwhile
no
What is a better tank template for single player then? would you be able to suggest one?
default 10 medium SPG's with 8 mech
SPG?
self propelled -?
self proplled artillery
artillery actually is useful in hoi4
just not line artillery
because of the bad org right?
so when I would normally select the TD thing on the designer
Buff Line Artillery
would I press artillery instead?
artillery
I wouldnt use an IW chasis
Somebody must make a mod where each USSR republic is a playable puppet nation
nah make an alt history mod where the Whites win and Russia becomes a warlord mess
and Germany goes Communist
should I try and reach medium howitzer 1 before 1939 then?
that's just a standard hist-off mode
true
ok thank you for your help
and I assume I can do motorized instead of mech if im poor
almost day 1 rush arty tech
it gives bonuses for spg
and u can get howi 2 early
my biggest issue is definitely the order I do things
its 1938 and I somehow havent had enough PP to get a single minister
what nation?
u need to rush getting rid of disjointed
ye thats why vanilla gets clowned on a lot
oh
yeah its getting really annoying I cannot do anything I want to do lmao
well I may be a little late
this may go badly XD
its fine if u get tanks
That's the least concerning reason
rate it
high width, bad org, awful hp?
And the SA it gives isnt worth it
not sure what else
oh terrain bonusses Ig?
Also high cost
ok yeah I really messed this up
Im still negative in PP and Germany is justifying against me
thats sudeten
No def or brk, ruins recovery rate and almost no country has arty advisors which indirectly ruins the buffs you get from inf specialist
yeah I know I wont actually have to fight until they demand danzig right?
and even then u dont have to join war
would it be best not to?
so they have to manually do the focus "war with france"
ye i think so
if u want to prolong the inevitable for as long as possible
why so sad bro
I may just lose this game lol
but Im learning
im also building convert tanks
js spam the 1938 medium tank
to hopefully speed up my arming
Record breaking speed over here, I am going to remove disjointed government in 1939!!
then the low reliability hits in slog-war called the eastern front
as france u always have supply
as long as u are in mainland
none
All should be fine
but maybe Juin is the best cuz he can be assigned as tank advisor
All or none, the duality of getting advice xD
once he gets tank leader
Yeah, Juin is best for leveling up
browski ur a colonial power as france
Since he actually can get an advisor trait
.
im gonna start with 8 SPG divs under Juin
You fight in North Africa?
I leave 6 divs on a fallback line and call it a day
and hes planning a mainland hold i think
try and micro some encirclements against Germany
100%
whats the tank design?
I havent made it yet
still saving up
gotta make a flamer and an SPG but the spg is obviously priority
no idea
first thing I spent my PP on was that
still have disjointed government though
its brutal
do i need to micro manage to win?
u need to have only 1 division deployed and train it
guys i need advice..
too late
for defense the offensive advisor is better
its the start of 1940 xD
why am i losing
this game is so funny sometimes ๐คฃ
im so cooked
ur divs probably arent the best
and u still dont have the tank u will actually be making?
broo
yes?
no
meta
Its tough going ok ๐คฃ
like u cant even win agianst AI with doing google meta
GOOGLE META?
then play on an easier difficulty?
like if you dont want to do the meta
dont
- thats really really old
- its not meta
what
No oil moment
google hoi4 is outdated
i like the map painting and diplomacy and stuf of this game but the micromanage units thing is boring and divsion design
de gaulle because hes my favorite
Micro is what makes the game fun for me
damn I shouldve considered that
hes mid
sorry mate
same
hungarian smh
true
old focus tree
I think there is a rare 35 day focus or 2
i want to hate but you guys made some good tanks and they put them in the italy tree in wt so i guess you get a pass today
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Good luck
I have the soviets on my side so hopefully we can hold the germans
i hate it
i just like rp lol
and diplomacy stuff and things
1939???????????????
usually i just have some idea in my head that i want to do
Play vic
I know they often do this but so early
that game is so hard
i went bankrupt during the tutorial ๐
good flamer?
Yeah I was not smart enough for v3
u want max armor ticks
Well, hoi4 barely has any politics
what speed do I want to aim for?
Where is the radio
speed doesnt rly matter cuz u will hopefully not be fighting under red air
8 km/h is what I aim for
We love speed
5km max
Remove reliability module
Speed is key
is there some mod that makes this a diplomatic gmae
or less if red air
yes
Wait why does your flame cost 54xp? This isn't your first design?
I made conversion tanks
I think this is my speed video https://youtu.be/jMykfjd4mFc
Armored Cars are not as bad as you think they are in hoi4. Speed is a weapon in its own right.
I capped Iran in 6 days from the Iraqi border
any1
Hoi4 is a war game
It's much more important to unlock a subdoctrine then to spend 54 XP to get 5 more breakthrough on your flame tanks
Any attempts to make it a political game is absolutely boring usually
Play Kalterkrieg and enjoy diplomacy
And only diplomacy
also too late for that
Because literally nothing else happens
this game may be gone
but the design divison and micromanage shit in this game is so boring
Then this game is not for you
Play vic
They tried removing the micro in vic
So you can tend to your society
idk why u enjoy micro managing tbh
I drive tank
I encircle divs
I kill divs
Repeat until I reach berlin
Dopamine seeing the helmets pop
do u need to be sweaty in hoi4
No
how do u learn to be good at combat? cuz i lose all the time
Do you build an air force
yes
With up to date planes
tbh i wish u could just put battleplans and if ur better than the enemy u win
ye
Do you have By Blood Alone dlc
no
Okay
Do you know the button designer
If you dont use it, you lose because the ai uses it
no
Okay, in the production menu, when you are going to put planes on the production line, there is an icon to the right
Click the create variant
You can now increase range, attack, reliability, and engine
This may be outdated, but I max engine and put a little bit into attack and range
man tbh that stuff is just like a chore to do
You are managing an entire war effort
It takes like 1 minute to do
Click variant and do as much as you can with the XP you have
It takes like 125 air xp to get engine 5 though
How many mils do you put onto fighters actually?
Please tell me it is at least 15
like 10
hello jon
If you are losing the air war, it is a sign to make more fighters
wait i will show u a picture
Hi
btw should i stop producing units when i go into war @opal nymph
wassup
No, unless you have an extreme equipment deficit
It's going alright, you?
idk how many units to make
More the better
Unless you have manpower issues
but then i run out of equipment
these strength warnings are worrying
im good aswell
You train based on the amount of resources you have
And also try to limit battleplanning with inf
That is an easy way to lose a ton of equipment and manpower
Also, what is the status of your fuel reserves
It was 0 the last time I checked
ur cooked
Are you training your navy or something
@opal nymph pre war
Hover over it
france doesnt rly get oil
yeah
france needs to buy a lot
yeah
damn
ngl just pull everyone out of france and go to algeria, so when you cap you dont lose all of them
ill buy 32 from
Where planes
the US
nope
in the first picture
Oh, only 6 planes
Oh no
good luck then
the one good thing I did this game was my industrialisation
if I leave france
germany gets
a ridiculous amount of factories
good thing they have 0% compliance so they dont get any of that
You have enough troops to probably hold the italian border
collab
ai does 1 or 2 collabs
ais dont do collabs
However you need to know what is consuming your fuel reserves
Ai does do collabs if they are told to
Vichy france is guaranteed on historical
so yes they do
Norway gets collabed
what
@opal nymph ?
navy ๐ฅฐ
my tank divs have awful stats?!
Well, at least it is green.
cuz they use the converts
I've seen worse
well yeah they have no tanks in them lmao
no they dont
good point
but how do i fix it so i win
then they dont have any tanks in them
Template?
none of those are full
ye they dont have tanks
Produce what you need.
In this case, I'd focus more on air than light tanks
I tend to play UK as special forces, inf, and air
but need tanks for attack
That is what special forces are for
we need armored infantry unit in hoi4
But UK can do tanks
Any saudis?
sf can be busted
Mechanized infantry
so is armored stuff useless
No
what wdym
but most nations dont have eco for tanks
Mechanized infantry is your precursors to APCs
how do i win agianst germany
OH alr
Where yโall from I need a duo
However, no NSB dlc makes tanks a bit weaker in some aspects
get off of toaster eco
make it total mob
technocracy
bro said tommykay ๐ญ
I like recruitable population
u will most of the time have 80+ stab
and if u dont then war eco
cuz u need 80 stab to click recruitable pop decision so u dont get the debuff ffrom total mob
I could do women in the workforce, but I usually only have 150 political power saved and my memory is like a goldfish
And I wonder "why no manpower"
lol
is it possible to add Armored infantry unit mod?
yes
Literally a skill issue on my part
TWR has APCs and they are extremely busted
ok I have one tank divsion with full strength]
Like I took out the entire Chinese army with 6 volunteer APC divisions
im going to try and use that to kill some infantry stacks
That's just mech inf
They are lights, they have no air support, they are going to bounce more than likely
u are actually converting ur old tanks right?
yes
its a mistake a lot of ppl make
nice
im making 8 per day
esport
I just played this whole game badly lol
Honestly, I should do another UK game
its fine
UK is one of my favorite countries to play
now u know a lot more about modern single player tank meta
I clearly watch too many segl videos
lol
despite playing a grand total of 0 multiplayer
my first 50 hours were all multiplayer
but I learnt absolutely nothing
my friends just carried me

Meanwhile me with doctrines:
"I pick the one that larps best with the country"
i like to LARP aswell jon
"Noo, you are using mobile warfare! It is the worst doctrine!"
Tank go zoom, I'm playing Germany
Also 21 km/h armored cars funny
Wait, doesn't Germany get mech buffs
mobile warfare isnt even that bad for germ
For extra speed
cuz u dont get any xp in vanilla
Army advisor + constant training gives you a lot of xp and mastery
i dont need this tho
i dont think its enough
You want a 30% debuff to building factories?
belgian border
definitley in alsace
please remove micro manaigng from this game its so boring
like getting mastery is rly easy
The coast, but i suggest you build up your equipment reserves
its js the xp part that i dont like about vanilla
Alsace is hills
thats why i like hmm more then vanilla
@opal nymph can you give me step by steps what i shouยดld do like what year should i start changing templates
belgium border defo makes the most sense
hmm?
You do things when you are able to
"historical multiplayer mod"
"i dont need food to live" ahh statement
yeah
As in you have the equipment available, the xp available, and similar
hmm
yo can play the whole game without ever micromanaging if you want
don't remove what makes the game fun for half the community
but im scared that germany will finally declare
ok
if you don't want to micro you go play vicky 3 or something smh
no you see i hate this so it has to go
if u dont micromanage u lose
Literally what I said
that's straight up false in singleplayer
then play easier difficulties?
Fun fact, no
You take a billion casualties, but you can
based
yea so ultimatrely u will not be very effective
If you make absolutely chonky inf divisions with a ton of air support, you can battleplan
You win the war
All you need
can you give me template?
Soviets won with a KDR of less than .25
let me pull up the template im using
time to continue my australia wc game
36 width inf with support companies. Be sure to use a lot of air support if you want it to work
do i need tanks
If you do large unit tactics, dont go above 36
You want to battleplan, right?
dm me if u want to play multiplayer
You dont do tanks
y
You want to just hit an arrow and let the game play itself
You dont want to show skill through microing
You want to just hit an arrow and go
You spam guns
bro microing is boring asf
is the game braindead without microing
this is my template
No skill expression
more artillery pls
Based
holy shit im actually pushing
@buoyant rivet how am i losing with this??????
uhm
i thought line arty was good
So if you have 3 army groups of 36 width inf with support arty, support aa, logistics, signals, and field hospitals. You can probably battleplan and win
what?
im genuinely confused
are you battleplan chad or micromanage chud ?
Clicking an arrow and sitting back shows little skill aside game knowledge
SHBB research should give you a SHBB imo
It took 180 days to draw a blueprint
micro nerd think u are smart
Maybe they should give you a partially complete one
or that even yeah
as someone whos doing architecture i can confirm it takes months to make a set of drawings
is this game pointless playing if u dont micro
thats because i dont want to go to prison for my buildings collapsing on your head
You just take excessive casualties
is there a mod that auto puts the divsion for u its so annoying to grind army xp and design divsions every game
But people are just numbers according to some people
ngl since they made other ships better i havent been making as much cruisers
Honestly, I'm surprised that PDX hasn't made an auto design button for division templates yet
oh shite I made progress in belgium
just get an advisor to passively get xp and send attaches
but then lost land on my border
They did for tanks, planes, and ships
ye like designing divs is SO BORING
its not bruh
micro manage = boring
design divsion = boring
false
important parts of the game = boring
You make a template one time
Truthnuke
i have to go above limited conscription :(
And you are set for the rest of the game
scoofy is just ragebaiting yall
I am not immune to ragebait
i like geopolitics its interesting tho
I think he is being genuine honestly
then play a different strategy game
i am being genuine but i am also rage baiting a little bit
the brits kept denying and now there's african borders like this i am going to go insane bruh
There is kalterkrieg
You might enjoy that mod
90% genuine 10% rage bait
its a mod
i mean
You would 100% enjoy kalterkrieg
microing is like a core part of the game
36 width inf battleplan strat exists
or THE core part of the game
yeah ive done that all the time
but there's still fun in microing
my heavy tank divs suck ๐ญ
He is like this in the vic3 discord as well
bro i am trying to beat the tutorial for the 2nd time ๐ฅฒ
I give it 2.7 minutes before someone copy and pastes a tank division screenshot
Looks good enough
use this div instead
lol no 
what year can u have this one by ?
probably by like 1940 if you dont rush mech
cav also works fine
tho
BEHOLD
Here is the thing you dont seem to understand.
You do things based on when you can get them, which varies
just replace the heavy tanks with spgs
Peak, I did something like this in my Belgium game
NO
But SPGs are not heavy tanks
spg big stinky poopy bad
Heavy Tanks have more aura
big strong heavy tank > paper puny spg
they're early heavy tanks what do you want from me
just use mediums
wtf so u want me to wait with war until atleast 1940
No, you can rush tech
you dont have to do the same division
never
holy
Called it 
Or you just use motorized
i do use ALL combat units either vanilla or modded
You might be right, but what if I want to go more than 6.7 km/h
Or is it 6.3
im retreating to algeria
I think itโs 6.4 or 6.2
1.2k soft attack with cas lets enemy units melt either way
Armored Cars are not as bad as you think they are in hoi4. Speed is a weapon in its own right.
Speed is good
Speed is life
If you cant cap a country in 6 days without paratroopers, are you really playing hoi4?
Fire emoji?
I would rather give up than play as Charles de gaulle
WAIT
There is the fight goes on or something like that and you play as Renaund
I think
RIP
400 soft attack lol
You are not a de Gaulle enjoyer?
and you call it bad?
thats an excellent garisson div, you should make sure to add MP
also id just do HTDs
very my marines do that 
Im English
Fair enough
Have a nice day
Lol
My entire argument got invalidated
Hol up, segl made a new video on the hoi4 meta
only informative for MP (unsurpisingly)
still very fun to watch
im going to try france again
I will disband all but one divs, and focus on removing the government stuff
and also do u wanna know how to get maxed out infantry and operations doctrine?
.
why is russia realesing ukraine and belarus and other countries are realising other countries to now ? it didnt do it before
in the start of the game
do you only have 1 division deployed?
yes
it only starts working at around march
Any good France rework mods? Or is vanilla france not outdated by a miracle???
vanilla france is quite outdated
ok its june and still not very good
its 0.003
oh yeah
its working
it just takes a while to build up
wow
its a bit obscene
how does it work??
im sad
i have 0 clue
in your guys opinion which year is the most fun usually
hows it going?
1940
1941 cuz barb n stuff
1940 Europe 1938 East Asia
0 AD for South America
1940 is painful cause u gotta start changing templates
if ur on nonhis 1940 is like when everything comes together
big factions or ideology change wtv
its cool but like if u try to fight spartacus germany in 1938 immediately post junta revolution
they gonna be reallt weak
but in 1940
its normal germany again
how do you know the amount of units you should make so you dont run out of equipment cause you also need equipment to resupply troops currently in war once it started
and wayyy more fun
same
cuz i play hist
and on hist u should have a good understanding of how much inf and tanks and planes u will need
Farm xp all u rlly need is one universal infantry and then good tanks for big offense
big tanks is expensive tho so if ur a minor that dont rlly apply i guess
they dont have very good breakthrough
unless you put time into para and get helicopters and shit
but their only use for me is air dropping
sf in gereral doesnt get good break
its only good in mods where they get extra urban stats
I havent really used marines but i know marines stacked with amphibious got good breakthrough for naval invasion
amphibs are bad in every other aspect Unless its coast garrison they break thru soooo fast
one in a krillion
Started the war in early '38 but didn't have enough paratroopers dropping into northern France
So I had to rebuild my paratrooper corps anew.
They all died the first time, you see.
one in a kremillion
i somehow managed to lose to poland as germany ๐ญ
where do they breakthrough the most?
honestly it was even worse than last time in actual combat
also dont hold on the frontline
I just got railed
wrap it up
this line is better than the frontline
yeah i did
hmm ok
also when do you switch to building mils?
too late
I did better last game
when did u swithc in this game?
I didnt even get a single tank div out in time
I dont remember but like i said it was way too late
it should be mid 37 at latest
rush howi 1 even more
I had the designs done
and also make sure to day0 get the 1938 medium tank
way WAY earlier
ouch
but the war started earlier this game
ohh
I did rush howi like you guys said
so I had all my designs and all my divisions set up
I just didnt have enough of an army ready to actually stop germany
damn
