hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

and blew it up

just the ai being dumb

[fair blade]

i dont see how that really helps italy though, i always thought italy wants to keep their ships in the med

[fair horizon]

if they got them out operation sealion may have been a viable plan

but britian basically trapped the only other real naval power in the med

[fair blade]

oh, so they would've travelled under africa to reach western europe?

[dry sleet]

forces trade to south east asia (rubber from japan conquests) to go past south africa for easy raiding and also prevents naval supply in east africa or invasions in india

[fair horizon]

its a possibility

[fair blade]

ic, thank you

[fair horizon]

as well as attacking east indies british holdings

[fair blade]

i normally don't really think about asia when i play italy, i kinda just assume its japan's job to deal with their asian colonies

[zenith imp]

which one

should i choose

fritz is bad

[fair blade]

todt

from what i know

[zenith imp]

either speer

or goring

[fair horizon]

i mean your job as italy really is to destroy the british navy

[fair blade]

i was told i should always choose todt cause it does best late game

[past summit]

Late game HOI4 pov for the Axis

[fair blade]

i can never get a good enough economy to do that, idk if its because i often try build up rather than expand into the balkans but

even then i feel it wouldnt help much if i did spend less time doing industry focuses and more into expanding

[zenith imp]

what about early game

[fair horizon]

I mean from how im understanding the game goes if you conquer you (eventually) get factories so

[zenith imp]

i wnt to achieve autarky

as early

as

[fair blade]

i mean todts is civ building speed so i think its just better for both..? i cant say for certain

[zenith imp]

1941

[fair horizon]

i try to build civ economy for a few years then go mils after taking over my neighbors

i have the sameish civ economy britian does rn as australia in 1942 from conquering

[dry sleet]

Could be worse

[fair blade]

i never understand annexing non cored lands in hoi4 aswell, i just puppet and take war reperations/ resources rights

full factory count, resources and the ability to request mp for garrisons

i dont see why you would annex non cores rather than puppet

[fair blade]

in what world does denmark have the manpower for 130 divs

[whole matrix]

Guys

Do we all agree, that Romania needs an update?

[zenith imp]

historical ww2 losses

[fair blade]

meh i dont think its too bad

[fair horizon]

manpower mostly as minors, but also you get more of their factories than puppeting

[whole matrix]

Dude

Communist focus tree is less than 7 focuses

[fair blade]

i that reps gave all of them

[dry sleet]

it's 19-78 divs and 126 factories

[fair blade]

yeah but you can jump around ideologies no?

[fair blade]

oh mb

[whole matrix]

Yes you can, but all paths is so small

[dry sleet]

Also almost every ally but the US is on scraping the barrel

[past summit]

What country were you bro

[fair blade]

i think if anything the balkans need a rework as a whole

maybe a dlc for yugo, albania and romania?

[dry sleet]

Still ongoing

[fair horizon]

like i get that much from land ownership

[past summit]

Jesus

[whole matrix]

"Dunai rises" Dlc

[fair blade]

i feel like i always get wayyy more than that by requesting for garrison support

[sly venture]

taiwan fell to the cpc

[fair horizon]

garrison support is only for garrisions. you cant use it for your divs

[fair blade]

oh i had NO clue about that, i just see my manpower shoot up and assume its going to my divs

[whole matrix]

2028 leaks*

???

[fair horizon]

its because it uses foreign manpower before domestic for garrisions

[sly venture]

we did it again

[mellow mirage]

is there a path thatll make the german ai do the economic reform path?

[hard sky]

Hello

[near mortar]

Omg tfr reference

[near mortar]

Hi

[near mortar]

You can toggle their economic path in game settings at the start

I guess, it should be

[serene breach]

i feel this is cheap

[winged field]

if you want to do it without commands: finish the peg tree, get austria, then declare on hungary, once you got hungary release it and play as hungary or any other country u have in mind

[tardy compass]

anything but a USA rework

😭

[winged field]

australia raaaagh, if they wont add kangaroo special division I aint playing it

[tardy compass]

the US is rotting away while Czechslovakia and Australia get reworks instead 💀

one of the most important countries of the war vs czechslovakia

[near mortar]

Usa wont be reworked in the dlc???

[fair horizon]

australia needed it more

[winged field]

I can imgaine how military hq's will be pain the ass

either its great or terrible

[near mortar]

Insane fraud

[tardy compass]

The US is vastly more important to the war and the biggest built in alt history path in its focus tree is basically socdem 😭

and like 4 focuses

[fair horizon]

i know how important the usa was to the war i am american

i also know that out of the countries in the pacific australia is probably #2

[near mortar]

I hate they will add hq in dlc. Its the thing I need, but i dont want to pay 4000 dollars for this (idc about content, i play mods)

[fair horizon]

i also know that USA is waiting simulator and if it isnt who cares because you get war goals on everyone

[near mortar]

I hit 1000 hours and still not one achievement

[runic zodiac]

How do i get this dog of my screen? Have i accidentally clicked a button?

[tardy compass]

the US tree is so bland and congress is too easy to manage

[fair horizon]

press `

[winged field]

`

[runic zodiac]

Omg thank you

Thought i was going insane

[rich gulch]

does the imperial federation focus annex my past colonies? because they all leave the crown and become free

[fair horizon]

it does

but only if they're still in your alliance

like as a puppet

[rich gulch]

but they arent

when i do kings party or fascist route

they all become free

do i need to annex them myself then

[fair horizon]

chat ive been too focused on the pacific

somehow lithuania took over the world

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/somehow-palpatine-returned-somehow--k01KS08AG7TGRQ33KG99J06KYEP

first thing in my mind

[crimson wolf]

I haven’t played hoi4 since götterdämmerung, I used to play almost exclusively china, mainly prc and nat china, from my understanding any chinese state is a pretty miserable experience after ncns, which is most fun these days? (All dlcs)

[prisma steppe]

why is the italian navy so weak

[crimson wolf]

I heard the ai navy is terrible now, to where even base german fleet can defeat uk’s navy ai

[prisma steppe]

its '44 and those are interwar captured german ships

[fickle thicket]

to get an easy sealion just nav bomb and that scares off the fleet

paradox dont see this message

[prisma steppe]

this is embarrassing

[fickle thicket]

damn

with no screens as well

[prisma steppe]

my interwar captured destroyer has destroyed multiple soviet and italian light cruisers

[cedar lance]

is TGW a good mod

[rancid gorge]

is ts tuff?

[cedar lance]

or even the TGWR

[fickle thicket]

huh

what is tgw

[tribal frost]

not tuff

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/this-might-be-the-worst-video-of-all-time-worst-message-worst-ever-leave-the-server-worst-gif-16690123984473040756

[cedar lance]

the great war and the great war redux

[fickle thicket]

yes it is

[cedar lance]

wdym

[fickle thicket]

the great war is a peak mod imo

[rancid gorge]

its really tuff

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gag-magic-wand-gif-11898335440404701981

[prisma steppe]

holy casulties

[fickle thicket]

damn

[cedar lance]

oh alr

my MOST FAV hoi4 mods are: BICE,MD,TGW,TGWR And RON and RT56

[prisma steppe]

all of my divs have such casulties

[cedar lance]

@fickle thicket

[prisma steppe]

8 divs 250k casulties

[fickle thicket]

dont ping me gng

[cedar lance]

sorry

[prisma steppe]

@safe wing banian

[safe wing]

Allosaurs*

[prisma steppe]

i pinged you for no reason big albanian

its so joever for the austrian hyperfaction

[safe wing]

France’s nightmare in the 1500s

[prisma steppe]

how is serbia still alive

[cedar lance]

i always build ALL ship as germany

[prisma steppe]

👀

[fickle thicket]

how u doin ts with no screens

[prisma steppe]

i have no idea

oh thats why

[fickle thicket]

oh

[fickle thicket]

we are so back serbbros

[prisma steppe]

serbia bros are indeed so back

[sudden grotto]

Did Serbia Just recruit every woman and child in the country?

[prisma steppe]

serbias revenge

[prisma steppe]

yes

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-not-just-the-men-but-the-women-and-children-too-not-just-the-men-women-and-children-too-gif-17266839

[prisma steppe]

they are fully mobilised, and they have 13 divs

[sudden grotto]

Gotta add that "no age limits" conscription law, 100% recruit

[safe wing]

What scraping the barrel feels like in hoi4

[cedar lance]

im desperate for ships and thats why i build the  Panzerschiff and pre dreadnoughts as germany

[prisma steppe]

what is the general doin

[cedar lance]

is this a good idea?

[ivory hull]

no

build torpedo dds

and light cruisers

[cedar lance]

alr

i do build those aswell

[ivory hull]

just focus on them

if you have air

your good

[shell sorrel]

You might as well finish some of them because they’re at like 90%

I think 1 or 2 of the big ones?

[ivory hull]

yea the starting ships are good to produce

[shell sorrel]

I’d never build a pre-dread though

That’s literally ancient technology and I’m shocked the game even gives you the option lmao

[prisma steppe]

what was the soviet plan here

there were no divs

[copper cobalt]

No step back!

[ivory hull]

no hp divs

bro what is your template

[prisma steppe]

i love mountaniers as austria

[low spade]

wa

[ivory hull]

then dont use line arty???

[prisma steppe]

i am reseaching tanks

[ivory hull]

mountaineers are fine, line arty isnt

[prisma steppe]

line arty is good

[ivory hull]

no its not

[ivory hull]

it reduces org and gives less hp than inf

[ivory hull]

cool green numbers

still bad

[ivory hull]

more than inf

and less org and hp

even reduces org

thats why its bad

more hp = less losses

[prisma steppe]

i know but i like number go up, even if the number is bad

[ivory hull]

this would be a better div tbh

[prisma steppe]

ewww

i would be over army limit

i have only 8 mountaniers

[ivory hull]

then replace with inf

[prisma steppe]

nothing else

[ivory hull]

dont use line arty

[prisma steppe]

line arty is fun for larp

[prisma steppe]

also if you didnt notice i am playing modded

[ivory hull]

line arty still isnt good

[opal nymph]

Then you need to use the button designer. If you dont, the ai will have better planes

[cedar lance]

i wanna have a FLEET of atleast 6.5k ships

a MIGHTY high seas fleet

[whole matrix]

What country should I play and in what mod

[opal nymph]

Kaiserreich Russia

[sly venture]

we did it

[cedar lance]

if i do get a navy or fleet of between 78k to 87k ships or more like in ww2 as germany ill be happy

so i can rival the RN aka Royal navy

[fair horizon]

chat i thought my game was bugged for like an hour because i couldnt select another special forces branch

as it turns out you need to research said special forces first

[cedar lance]

@fair horizon whatcu think of this idea lord?

i wanna rival us and royal navies

[fair horizon]

us navy wins

easily

[cedar lance]

how?

[fair horizon]

because we're the greatest nation to ever grace this planet 😎

https://tenor.com/view/memorial-day-america-eagle-usa-patriot-memorial-eagle-anerica-usa-gif-6514574613088641326

[cedar lance]

alr

in 1 save game as Estonia i did have 6.5k ships

[fair horizon]

Mark you'll mabye be excited to know that the baltic union took over russia in this save and are stronger economy wise than germany

[patent bloom]

есть русские в хойку? желательно кто то с пачкой

[fair horizon]

bring it back

that was the perfect battleplan

[winged field]

I forgot to crop something lol

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gag-magic-wand-gif-11898335440404701981

[fickle thicket]

english only

[winged field]

There we go

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/merica-gif-6672966492979109248

[patent bloom]

нет, иди нахуй

[prisma steppe]

naval invasion sound to alert the mods

[fickle thicket]

<@&846894118219022336> bypass of filter

[winged field]

He said nice to meet you 😇

[patent bloom]

зря, вот я понимаю что вы пишите даже без перевода, теперь вы меня поймите ахахахахха)

[prisma steppe]

thats what a spy would say

[patent bloom]

шпионы напали

[patent bloom]

ок

[winged field]

https://tenor.com/view/meetspy-spy-meet-the-spy-gif-22795840

[patent bloom]

https://klipy.com/gifs/spy-tf2-4--k01KS0CG6R611ZRK61YASS0028A

[safe wing]

Bro I'm gonna be collateral damage

[winged field]

The curse of me knowing how to read it 😭🤙

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[safe wing]

all because I posted that gif of that stupid movie

[prisma steppe]

its so over swedenbros

[fickle thicket]

gg

600k encirclement

so over

[prisma steppe]

i dont want to play anymore

what is this

[upper merlin]

Has anyone tried to add river type, sea provinces and gunboats/light cruisers that are only effective there , and larger ships have massive debuffs?… so one can simulate cool stuff like coastal navies bombarding enemy land?o

[prisma steppe]

and then there is this part of the front

[upper merlin]

Don’t want the enemy to cross a river but can’t get an army right on time, over there? Send your flotilla of riverboats

[prisma steppe]

mmm soft attack

[blissful gust]

Hi

[thorn pelican]

guys

when will we get the train designer dlc??

[dry sleet]

F

[atomic grove]

natpop germany is hell

[prisma steppe]

kx or kr?

[pine shale]

guys

how do i know how many airplanes i need to produce

and navy battleships

[cursive oxide]

a lot

[pine shale]

i am new and i always lose

[atomic grove]

kr

[cursive oxide]

just keep makeing ships and planes when you have like 30+ mil

[atomic grove]

kaiserreich

[pine shale]

30 mil?

[dry sleet]

~ 3M in that pocket

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[pine shale]

thats whyim here

[atomic grove]

u dont need to

[cursive oxide]

mil is military factory

[atomic grove]

there is no maximum to how many battleships or planes u need

u can js produce as many as u want

[pine shale]

but i also need enough for army so i need to balance

[spring relic]

helo

[pine shale]

like look im noob and i lost this war XD

[spring relic]

is war exonomy still good after the coal update

lowkey looks like it isnt

[atomic grove]

it is

[spring relic]

just need one army on the french border

others go to poland

[pine shale]

nah bro the poles they beat me XD

[cursive oxide]

why ar the czech a thing |?

[pine shale]

idk

how do i know which airplanes and boats to make?

[cursive oxide]

you can annex them in the focus tree

[pine shale]

any1

like i have no idea

[cursive oxide]

you have dlc ?

[pine shale]

no

[cursive oxide]

ok open resaerch then on the plane icon you can get them

try to keep them uptodate

[pine shale]

yes but like how many planes and boats should i produce

[cursive oxide]

fighter is a must have cas if you can aford it

as ?

[pine shale]

just generally

[cursive oxide]

realy dep on the nation

[pine shale]

but how do i figure it out

[cursive oxide]

planes if you have the mils for and and subs if smal nation on the coast and bih boats if you can make them

[pine shale]

also which boats do i make cuz idk anything about navy

like destroiyer and heavy boat

[cursive oxide]

no 1 does

a scoofy just ping <@&916727971820240976>

if you need help

[pine shale]

ok i will go to the help channel

lowkey wanna buy the arms of tyranny dlc cause it gets sweden tech tree

also wanna try to play USA

but that requires navy

[prisma steppe]

the ai cant hold frontlines for some reason

[pine shale]

all my homies hate navy !!!

[cursive oxide]

dont

get by blood alone

makes planes and peace deals beter

[safe wing]

Get both

BBA and AAT

[pine shale]

idk what this means

ima play uk

@misty fossil how do u know what ships to produce

[wide osprey]

bro's not playing map painting game
he can't see the map...

[pine shale]

how do i know which ships i should produce

[turbid nexus]

How do i get better? 120 hours in and idek what im doing

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gag-magic-wand-gif-11898335440404701981

[prisma steppe]

nah wtf is this now

my game is breaking at the seams

[sudden thistle]

Just make convoys most of time

[pine shale]

but i am playing britian i need like ships to fight the nazis

[sudden thistle]

If u want actual navy just build torpedo destroyers

And yes the dlc to design boats is free

And you do have it

[pine shale]

but uk need to control the seas

[sudden thistle]

That helps u kill enemy ship

Since torp dd is good ship

And no enemy ship means u control the seas

[pine shale]

so do i not need any capital ships

also why do my dockyards just keep getting freed up after i put production

[sudden thistle]

U have enough

[sudden thistle]

When u finish building a ship

Those dockyards have nothing to build

U change that by changing the ♾️ symbol or number

Right between ship picture and the dockyards allocated to it

[misty fossil]

Torpedo destroyers

Bam

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-hurts-gif-12096381820083648834

[whole wedge]

am i good yet 🥹

[vivid juniper]

sign

[misty fossil]

Its him

[vivid juniper]

I Balkanized Russia to play Ukraine and this is as far as I got before I knew I couldn’t go further

[whole wedge]

the goddamn germans

its always them

[misty fossil]

Its Josif Ukraine

[vivid juniper]

Germany stole all my cores because they went to war with Lithuania, which they capped and took all of it

For some reason, Lithuania held all of Poland as well

One of those decision

[whole wedge]

did lithuania perhaps refuse memel or something

[vivid juniper]

Germany’s non-aligned

[whole wedge]

oh

[vivid juniper]

I’m guessing they demanded integration

[misty fossil]

“Germany stole all my chores because they went to war with Woolworth Lithuania, which they capped and took all of it”

What a gem of a sentence

[whole wedge]

what

[vivid juniper]

Germany, perhaps demanded their subjugation

[misty fossil]

Yeah, what

[whole wedge]

oh

makes sense but

still bad

[vivid juniper]

I was fighting Poland, but it got worse. They joined the US because they were the only Democratic nation left.

[whole wedge]

i just wish releasable slovakia gets its own focus tree

[whole wedge]

my god

countries shouldnt just be able to join factions while on diffrent continents

thats kinda dumb

reminds me of everybody in europe joining the east asian sphere

[vivid juniper]

I joined the allies which were led by a fascist Britain so I had that lockdown, but they were going to war with the Soviets even in a week state is a problem for me

[vivid juniper]

It’s so goofy because that American Commonwealth is supposed to prevent the US from doing this shit

But I guess, because the allies are led by a fascist major they need a democratic faction

[whole wedge]

the factions still need some polishing

[vivid juniper]

Decided to play Ukraine specifically as I thought it would be a nice challenge I got pretty far but we’re getting my cores from Poland proved to be more difficult

I had to state transfer eastern Poland back to them as the Soviets stayed history did that focus that allows them to demand it

[whole wedge]

i can go for germany, soviets, romania (guaranteed by uk and france) or yugoslavia (which my puppet borders but i dont)

AS SLOVAKIA

i cant do much

[vivid juniper]

I did fascist Ukraine as to get extensive conscription and larp and jokes just write themselves

[pine shale]

should i do that

[pine shale]

but what abt later in the game it just started its 1936

[sudden thistle]

It’s fine

[sudden thistle]

Idk do u want to?

[wooden mesa]

miau

[shell sorrel]

Slovakia andys 💀

[pine shale]

Idk what else do I do with my dockyards

Also can someone give me some good inf & tank division templates for the different eras

[long valley]

is nazi germany new player friendly?

[hard grove]

Of course

Easiest country to play

It's OP as hell

Anyone wanna suggest a mod

I wanna play something different

[icy egret]

Equestria at War

[hard grove]

No thanks I don't want ponies

[prisma steppe]

i dont feel safe anymore

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/this-might-be-the-worst-video-of-all-time-worst-message-worst-ever-leave-the-server-worst-gif-16690123984473040756

[shell sorrel]

No special forces, they’re pushovers

[pine shale]

im playing uk

[thorn pelican]

aaaa I’m under aerial attack! Enemy CAS too op

[icy egret]

Then dont play a country in EaW with ponies in it

[fickle thicket]

average war

[fickle cove]

i am not joking

i'm considering leaving the tfr server

the devs are actually such toxic pos's sometimes

abuse their power as well

it's a shame bc i really like tfr as a mod

[pine shale]

is it bad i only made 1 division from 1936-1937 as uk

i mean 1 unit

[unreal mica]

Guys someone just tell me how to win air warfare

Without BBA dlc

[unreal mica]

nah its fine

[pine shale]

can u tell me which template i should use for tanks

[unreal mica]

I got no idea bro but

Ur the uk

Invade libya

Then naval invade italy

[pine shale]

cant

[unreal mica]

Knock them out

[unreal mica]

Why not

[pine shale]

not enough world tension

[unreal mica]

Yh when ww2 starts

Knock italy out of the war using naval invasions

I’m not good with tanks tbh

[pine shale]

whats libya gonna do for that tho

[unreal mica]

Nothing actually u dont need to

Just take italy

[unreal mica]

I do it for fun

[unreal mica]

Naval Invade sicily and the tiles next to the ports

[pine shale]

my army not growing very fast XD

[unreal mica]

Bro how many hours u got on hoi4

[pine shale]

40

[unreal mica]

hmm

[pine shale]

why is it growing slowly

[unreal mica]

U dont need to spam divisions ur the uk

[pine shale]

but idont wanna be weak

[unreal mica]

France holds against Germany while you kill italy and then germany is all alone

[unreal mica]

Which military doctrine have u picked

[pine shale]

none yet i need xp

[unreal mica]

ight

hows ur infantry template

[pine shale]

just normal with line arty

[unreal mica]

For me i use 13mountaineer 3artillery divisions pretty good

[pine shale]

i dont have enough equipment to make any units

[unreal mica]

Focus on training and equipping the ones u currently have

R u building civs

[snow rain]

quick tip before I head out, open your garrison menu and switch everything to local autonomy
military governor is the default setting and will actively kill you if left unchanged

[pine shale]

no i got 39

[pine shale]

thx

[unreal mica]

Yh very good

[pine shale]

it takes like 3 years to get enough combat xp to change ur templates even while training all ur units so its kinda pointless

[unreal mica]

If i were u i would have 48 divisions thats more than enough to overwhelm italy if ur divs are strong enough

[unreal mica]

Assign an advisor for xp in early game

[pine shale]

no one gives xp

[ivory hull]

how did you lose like that

[ivory hull]

chief of army bro

+0.3 army xp

[pine shale]

ok

but still it will take very long time

[ivory hull]

not really

you can get enough army xp

to do templates

even more with attaches and stuff

[pine shale]

i wish there was a mod that auto did ur templates

i like politics and map paintings not divsion designing

[ivory hull]

you have to do it like once

as germany i do it once in like late 38

[pine shale]

still kinda annoying

[ivory hull]

not really

the division design is basically the same

everytime

[pine shale]

there is a lot i dont understand in this game

[grizzled yarrow]

let the games begin

[pine shale]

@unreal mica btw from where am i supposed to naval invade italy

[meager valley]

Problem with that is many templates involve techs you don’t start with

[pine shale]

ye

[fair compass]

sicily.. 👀

[pine shale]

btwww is there a way to change teh template ur currently deployed units are using

[fair compass]

yes

soo next to the disband button is like

a switch template button

[pine shale]

expiditonary forces cannot switch template

[fair compass]

why are you using.. expeditionary forces

[pine shale]

idk what that means

[fair compass]

its like

an ai gives you their troops

and you can control those troops

[pulsar saffron]

bit late but i conquered netherlands first with a naval invasion from italy, then used netherlands to naval invade britain, then paradropped into france

[fair compass]

unlike volunteers which are controled by the ai

[pine shale]

what

sry idk what ur saying

[molten forge]

Who wants to head the most psychopath idea which was done Def but stil psycho

[pine shale]

huh 100% ?

im 95% control ratio

[indigo elk]

I accidentally sent volunteers to Republican Spain, quite late into the war, and just lost 5 special forces divisions... Love this game. So dumb that you can't recall vclunteers. Legit braindead stuff.

[quartz loom]

that seems like the hardest part so far, i like going to war and taking stuff, not tying to get 100 random stats to be perfect

[ivory hull]

subs can still raid you

[pine shale]

how do i fix

[ivory hull]

naval bombers ig

or just convoy escorts

[pine shale]

why are my units not moving

[ivory hull]

no supremacy in north sea

its literally red

[pine shale]

bruh how do i get it

[ivory hull]

with patrol gng

theres tutorials for naval invasinos

[pine shale]

just delete navy pls

[quartz loom]

i don’t think i’ve ever successfully done a naval invasion, the troops won’t go unless you have like the entire thing in control and that’s lowkey impossible

[ivory hull]

navy is not that hard

[pulsar saffron]

split your channel navy in half and send half to german sea zone

[pine shale]

please win

[ivory hull]

some of your divs arent even fully equipped

and do you have air?

[pine shale]

yes

[pine shale]

bro idk why that is or how u see that

[pulsar saffron]

what country are you, i once won scw for republicans as soviets with 6 mountaineers and it only got easier with time as spain removed the state debuffs

[ivory hull]

the orange bar

is strength

[quartz loom]

my bar is always red 90% of the time, guessing that’s bad? LOL

[pine shale]

why are they underequipped

[ivory hull]

yea very

[ivory hull]

you tell me

[pulsar saffron]

britain probably starts with not enough guns and you probably havent been making enough guns since 1936 to fill the need

[pine shale]

bro can u be helpful

[quartz loom]

how you fix that

[ivory hull]

check your equipment

[pulsar saffron]

do you know where the logistics screen is

[ivory hull]

like idk why your divs arent fully equipped

[ivory hull]

more equipment/manpower or waiting for that to go into the div

[pine shale]

am i making too many divisions is that why

[pulsar saffron]

that does create a bigger deficit yes

[ivory hull]

press I on your keyboard

[ivory hull]

you see that -8.2k?

[pulsar saffron]

yeah those guns take time to make

[pine shale]

yes but why did that happend

[pulsar saffron]

most countries start with red numbers there

[quartz loom]

i think my biggest problem rn is making troops and making them good. for example every time i’ve tried to play germany i can’t do the anchluss thing because it takes me an extra year or two to get the manpower on field needed

[pine shale]

should i stop making units or what i fully trained them so why are they unequipped

[ivory hull]

because you arent producing equipment??

or not enough

[quartz loom]

by the time i can take austria they’re in alliance w someone and i get stomped lol

[pine shale]

bro i have full civs on guns

[ivory hull]

how many?

also its mils

civs are civilian factories

[pine shale]

like 15

[indigo elk]

Italy. I defeated Yugoslavia and Romania, then returned to the SCW, selecting the wrong Spain. It's honestly dumb af that the other side would have you when you've been fighting against them already.

[ivory hull]

bradar

put like 25

[pine shale]

do divisons need new guns once they're prduced

[ivory hull]

yeaa?

if they lose them

in battle

they need replenishments

[quartz loom]

they can lose guns in battle?

[pine shale]

ok

[pulsar saffron]

youre only making 40 per day, at 8000 deficit thats 200 days left

[quartz loom]

hold on that changes everything

[pulsar saffron]

yeah each division needs new equipment

[pine shale]

this is so hard bro i need so many equipments

[pulsar saffron]

you can check how much in the template screen for each div

[ivory hull]

day 1 train 22 divs and 18 on guns and you can do anschluss may 1st 1936

[pine shale]

so if i stop making new divisons will i win

[ivory hull]

most likely not

[pulsar saffron]

wdym selecting the wrong spain, like you sent vols to republicans? and also sorry wdym the other side would have you

[ivory hull]

battleplanning wont work

[rigid jay]

So noob question but are subs still the exact same on the main version? Is all the subs being trash and decent good again up and down only on beta branches?

[ivory hull]

that

easily

[pine shale]

then how do i win

[fiery hound]

what are the best dlcs currently

[pulsar saffron]

how many games have you played

[quartz loom]

so 22 troops? wdym by 18 guns? like put 18 factories on guns?

[ivory hull]

good divisions and dont battleplan, air is also very important

[pine shale]

bro i dont wanna micromanage

[ivory hull]

22 of the normal inf divs and 18 mils on guns, yes

[ivory hull]

yea then you wont win

[pine shale]

stingy idiot

u lying

[ivory hull]

bro what?

no im not

microing is needed

[quartz loom]

wait the battle plan is bad? the thing with the arrow? how do you fight then i thought that was how you did it 😭

[pine shale]

yes u are i see yt video they battleplan

[pine shale]

he is trolling

[indigo elk]

I sent volunteers to Nat.Spain, then when ready I went to war with Yugo/Rom, after winning that I went to send the volunteers back to NatSpain but didn't notice I selected Rep.Spain

[ivory hull]

i know this game bro

its bad

[pulsar saffron]

theyre probably much better at the game than you tho

[quartz loom]

i’m sure single player isn’t as hard as multiplayer, so battle plan is probably good in single player

[rigid jay]

Battleplan is good, its how you get your planning bonus lol. You don't need to hit the attack button just micro

[ivory hull]

battleplanning is only good with good divs and cas

[pulsar saffron]

if you have horrendous advantage over the enemy you can battleplan

[pine shale]

so what u want me to d o

[ivory hull]

wait for planning and micro

make sure you have air up

[rigid jay]

Mr.4k hours can you answer my question about subs

[quartz loom]

oh idk how to do that, lots of times if i try forcing them to attack on my own they lose really badly and then get pushed way back lmaooo

[atomic grove]

because thats how u get natpop germany

[pulsar saffron]

ah

unfortunate

[ivory hull]

oh ok in kx you can get it without losing the war

[atomic grove]

u have to purposefully screw urself up badly

[ivory hull]

what is the question?

[atomic grove]

and thats why its hard

[rigid jay]

Yeah a few things need to go right for you to get greens across the board for sure.

[pine shale]

how do i send my units to france

[rigid jay]

@ivory hull

[pulsar saffron]

volunteers do get recalled when they capitulate so im guessing yours got encircled before rep spain capped

[ivory hull]

subs should still be normal on the main version

ig

[pulsar saffron]

are they in allies faction

[pine shale]

yes

[pulsar saffron]

give your army some sort of order in france

garrison or frontline or whatever

[ivory hull]

make a frontline in france

[ivory hull]

for navy just spam light cruisers and torpedo dds tho

[pulsar saffron]

if you want to join the land war on the french border then yeah frontline

guys is this a good pace for china war

75% capitulation by dec 37

[quartz loom]

hey is there an easier country to start than italy? i find it hard to manage such a large country with so many ways to get attacked, especially by france and uk who kinda just whoop me

[pine shale]

how do i micromanage good ?

[ivory hull]

those units are dead

[pulsar saffron]

germany and usa are both quite easy

[pine shale]

BRO WHAT U WANT ME TO DO

[pulsar saffron]

usa easier than germany

[ivory hull]

try microing to the port

[ivory hull]

invade on a port

otherwise your dead

try going to kiel

with half the divs

the rest should go down

to stop incoming enemy units

[quartz loom]

i can try germany again but last time i tried poland teamed up with like 3 different countries and shit on me

[ivory hull]

prolly wont work tho

[pine shale]

bro this is impossible to play

[ivory hull]

its not

[vernal crescent]

Germany

[ivory hull]

the UK can stop germany

easily

[pulsar saffron]

poland is meant to do that xd try america then

[vernal crescent]

my brother Germany is ez to play

I legit won w/ cas and 12w militia

no art

[pulsar saffron]

civ greed then convert all to mils, then kill japan and germany at your leisure

[vernal crescent]

y

[ivory hull]

germany gets milita?

[vernal crescent]

yes

Himmler right side
12w militia

[pulsar saffron]

also there are many detailed guides out there for those who find them useful

[ivory hull]

ohh damn

[ivory hull]

day 1 mils also works on US

[ivory hull]

watch segls guide for germany

[pulsar saffron]

i followed a guide my first germany game and successfully killed allies, then usa, then japan

[pulsar saffron]

but moar ciiiiiivs

maybe ill try early mil build one day]

i had a good commie usa run going then the game updated

[quartz loom]

ok but idk how to make troops or planes or whatever, everytime i try im out of factories because im trading with 20 different countries and my troops get one shot anyways

[pulsar saffron]

desperately trying to hold back the germans from overrunning asia after defeating japan and china and joining the unions

[quartz loom]

it takes forever to pump out even 1 troop, and i don’t even bother w tanks that’s never happening

[vernal crescent]

aight my brother

[pulsar saffron]

and larping around the caribbean and canada

[vernal crescent]

u wanna watch me play germany?

in sp

[quartz loom]

i just need to figure out how to get as many troops as possible, but it sounds easier than it is. also my troops suck tbh lose to chekloslovakia

[pulsar saffron]

i beat allies with 120 inf and two tanks

as ger

[vernal crescent]

I will show u da wae

[pulsar saffron]

just gotta get past that hump then your resources are sorted

[whole wedge]

getting back volunteers is so satisfying

[ivory hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrfR91lIO0c&t=1747s
watch this

[vernal crescent]

wait guys whats the most recent version of hoi4

I've been on 1.16 for a couple of months and steam changed this betas

[whole wedge]

the one with the date closest to today

[vernal crescent]

so may 13?

[whole wedge]

yes

[quartz loom]

yeah i think a hard part with troops is having the resources to make your current army happy and then to pump out troops. because i have no idea how to make sure. i have enough supplies. especially when war starts and my oil plummets to 0 and everything goes red and my planes and ships run out

[vernal crescent]

as Germany?

GERMANY?

[quartz loom]

1000 factories is insane holyyy 😭

[pulsar saffron]

six soviet mountaineers pulling up after killing ten billion francoists with their bare hands

[vernal crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-can-do-this-all-day-marvel-gif-14017033

[ivory hull]

he didnt even sealion before US joins

[quartz loom]

just in general yeah, that’s a big problem i faced as italy yesterday. no oil

no planes no ships

[pulsar saffron]

id say dont even bother sending your navy out as germany

[mighty notch]

Anglos united everywhere!

[pulsar saffron]

at first

[vernal crescent]

did you...build refineries?

[whole wedge]

2 czechoslovak chads after beating up fascists

[quartz loom]

what’s sea lion?

[pulsar saffron]

build collabs in france, then you can replace vichy france with a collab and take their navy

[quartz loom]

doesn’t sound familiar

[pulsar saffron]

combined german and france navy you can then send out to channel to sealion britain

[vernal crescent]

s-s-synthetics?

[ivory hull]

Uk invasion

[whole wedge]

ive beaten hungary as releasable slovakia with 1 starting factory, but i have no idea how to naval invade

[vernal crescent]

s-s-sythetic refineries???

d-d-d-don't sound familar

[quartz loom]

oh the stuff that makes rubber? no i’ve never used those

[vernal crescent]

....

[pulsar saffron]

i should give myself more of a challenge as germany next time

[vernal crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/tendernism-jordan-the-stallion-jordan-howlett-destination-smokehouse-peak-gif-16617008407035522280

[whole wedge]

mate

[pulsar saffron]

and wait until usa joins

[vernal crescent]

they make oil

[mighty notch]

put your whole navy in one sea

[quartz loom]

oh i see, my invasions have never worked, idk how to get my troops to actually go through the damn water

[vernal crescent]

the synethtics also make oil

[ivory hull]

naval invade?

[quartz loom]

ye

[pulsar saffron]

and also actually do barbarossa because on my last run i just straight up didnt do it and conquered every other major except ussr

[whole wedge]

i tried, but uk is just pulling destroyers and all the others ships out their bum it appears

[quartz loom]

well idk i didn’t think the rubber factories seemed worth the trouble when there were more interesting things to research

[mighty notch]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-talk-when-the-teachers-talking-dont-talk-oswald-mosley-gif-21262527

[pulsar saffron]

you gotta snipe the french navy with a collab guys

[vernal crescent]

ok ghost man

[whole wedge]

i can bomb a hundred of their ships and theyll return with two hundred

[vernal crescent]

now you REALLY

REALLY

[ivory hull]

on germany build them like in late 38 and get the techs

rush air too ofc

[vernal crescent]

need to see me play germany

@quartz loom Join helping lounge 1 u dont need to speak

[whole wedge]

last time i played as germany i got into 3 civil wars and lost the last one

[pulsar saffron]

3???

[whole wedge]

ye

first oppose hitler

then communism

and tried switching

[vernal crescent]

rip

[quartz loom]

well i’m at the gym rn

[whole wedge]

but i messed it up

so uh

flex

[vernal crescent]

bro the civil wars cannot be that bad 😭

[whole wedge]

worse than spain 💔

[pulsar saffron]

not really meant to switch after doing all that xd

[whole wedge]

each one spawned me with less and the enemy more

[vernal crescent]

it's not actually that bad to win as Nazi Germany

if u go oppose hitler

[pulsar saffron]

delete divs beforehand?

[whole wedge]

against nazis was easy

the communist one too somewhat

but the third one destroyed me

[pulsar saffron]

maybe the focus cws spawn enemy divs but when you tried switching shouldnt have if you had deleteed everything beforehand

[vernal crescent]

ima just go do my normal strats

[quartz loom]

ok how many? like 5 sound good?

also i do find it hard to balance what to get. like there are seperate country skill trees for military, air, and sea, how do they expect you to get all of those AND do the infrastructure ones AND do the political ones? there’s no time

[whole wedge]

genuinely wont play oppose hitler after this anymore

[molten forge]

quick question, whats a good cruiser i can use?

[pulsar saffron]

they dont you gotta pick nd choose

[ivory hull]

watch segl guide on germany

trust me

[whole wedge]

AJIFVJEIWJVGKWRVGOWRPVGWRLVGRWLPGPRW (im playing czechia)

DIE

GODDAMN AUSTRIA

[vernal crescent]

let's try oppose hitler

ima try it

[whole wedge]

hell no

[vernal crescent]

it can't be THAT hard

[pulsar saffron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/omg-osmangif-what-emoji-nhFdRPpcTlIffGfErQ

[ivory hull]

its easy

[whole wedge]

opposing hitler isnt, trying to go communist IS

[pulsar saffron]

but you won the commie cw

[mighty notch]

go fascist its way easier

[ivory hull]

commie path is really strong tho

[pulsar saffron]

go fascist as germany

[mighty notch]

yeah how ever you do that

[pulsar saffron]

i love exporting the revolution

[whole wedge]

and then got put right into another war

[pulsar saffron]

had so much fun as commie chile recently

[vernal crescent]

which communist path do u want

which communist germany do I go

[pulsar saffron]

the one which starts revolutions everywhere

[whole wedge]

listen, i have no idea what paths there are, cause i couldnt get to one, il probably try tmrw cause today i got an okay monarchist czk path

playthru

[quartz loom]

ok i can try watching another guide. the one i watched kinda just told me what everything was and how to seperate my subs and set them to repair individually and not all together. all 60 subs then proceeded to get obliterated within 1 month

[whole wedge]

well

[ivory hull]

segl will guide you how to win as germany

if you follow his steps

you win

[vernal crescent]

Join vc 1

ima legit do this

[whole wedge]

not todayy 😭

[vernal crescent]

this will be EZ

[honest glacier]

unprepared army bonuses are really good ngl

[whole wedge]

not when i have austria neighbour and democracy germany neighbour who are about to ally against me

does anyone know how i can uh

[honest glacier]

it gives really good eco bonuses the debuffs for the army are negligible

[ivory hull]

in the focus tree

[whole wedge]

wdym

[ivory hull]

you can select the focus

in your focus tree

kinda noticeable

[whole wedge]

oh

give me a second

let me search

[ivory hull]

no theres like a wheel

ig

where you can select

it

the focus for the industry

[whole wedge]

the bloody hell is this

how have i not noticed

[dry sleet]

I think Norway has DID

[pulsar saffron]

paradox try not to implement once off internal mechanics for every country challenge

[pulsar saffron]

norway separate peace event?

i hate norway separate peace

always on some bs

[dry sleet]

IDK happened without my contribution

Probably 15+ years ago in game time

But I just noticed

[pulsar saffron]

i was playing as red chile and i encouraged resistance in suriname but they spawned as fascist so i fought the axis on top of fighting the allies and then suriname got included in the norway separate peace and usa stole it with change govt

and i had to wait until truce over to retake it

i needed manpower from south america formable so badly

trial of slop

[solemn plover]

wsp

[dry sleet]

Speaking of manpower

[past elm]

I’m playing as the Soviets just capitulated France how do I get uk I can’t naval invade they’re navy will destroy mine and don’t have that big of an airforce because no rubber do I use pataratroopers in this situation?

[pulsar saffron]

sometimes they leave gaps in navy

have you taken other countries navies?

lowk i would try paradrop

[dry sleet]

Naval bombers to cull their navy in the channel and around, then bring your fleet out after a year or two of bombing

[solemn plover]

im new player and uh I started playing as Italy, should I like first build factories or what should I do

[molten forge]

can anyone help me?

[olive dagger]

what

[molten forge]

with a design for a good cruises

[dusky burrow]

happens

[whole wedge]

why does this exist

[olive dagger]

how do we know

u lit made the smallest possible screenshot

[molten forge]

yoo can i ask for just a design cruises

[whole wedge]

its

literally just ukraine

but

two times smaller than luxembourg

[olive dagger]

what

the

actual

f**

[dusky burrow]

loading up the game

[olive dagger]

what is even the path

and they can even do that?

[viscid mason]

Yo Liv have you heard the hoi4 designer site now has a ship designer? https://hoidesigner.com/ship-designer

[lethal ether]

ip grabber

[dusky burrow]

woooo

[dusky burrow]

true

[lethal ether]

fact checked!

[dusky burrow]

but do these websites have mios?

[viscid mason]

sadly I don't think so

Wait they have a discord server for feedback on the site

might join

[lethal ether]

does it have built in ip grabber?

[viscid mason]

maybe you can pull yours if you can XD

[olive dagger]

how did germany get sudetland

[dusky burrow]

try this

[molten forge]

thanks

[past elm]

Yeah but won’t the usa join by that times it’s 1940 and I killed Japan as well btw

[pseudo plover]

pretty sure czechia has some focuses where they give it up without asking?

[obsidian sigil]

i just use 5 dual purpose main guns + 1 depth charge with armor 1 and my cruisers solo any navy

it does take tech rush

but once like 3 of them soloed the italian navy

[molten forge]

is this okay for like mid game or

[terse skiff]

there's no need for 18w inf to have logistics and engineer

that's a waste of ic

[sharp beacon]

why does this event say probably

[terse skiff]

just make 18w + support art + aa

[fiery sierra]

hi

[dusky burrow]

i think it's just a formatting issue

[sharp beacon]

my headcanon is the devs couldn't find the facts so they just guessed

[dusky burrow]

rip

[viscid mason]

what mod is this, you may want to contact the devs about this?

[sharp beacon]

its vanilla the picture is just different because of anime history

[viscid mason]

well time to send a bug report that Paradox would "definiely" read

[sharp beacon]

i hope they dont patch it because its funny

the real bug we should be reporting is this focus being a despicable 70 days in the bulgarian focus tree

[olive dagger]

yep

[olive dagger]

thats alot of biurocracy for recognizing smth

[unreal mica]

Holland yall

[terse skiff]

The Chad French General confidently staring down the weak German medal-hoarder

[ivory hull]

2 french divs in the reserves

[terse skiff]

Could the Dutch beat the Germans without the France reserves? I think not

[ivory hull]

yea true the french gave morale support

[fair horizon]

Belgians could

Dutch couldnt

[unreal mica]

Guys this just cant be real i got more participation than the french

[unreal mica]

Irl they held pretty well but they surrendered to the germans cuz they didnt wanna suffer a bombing campaign

Source eastory

[pliant ginkgo]

W?

Invaded on December 15th of 1939 and Romania capitulated by May 2nd of 1940

[lavish forge]

Türk var mi

Gencler

[fair horizon]

Weakest bulgarian empire

[proud sparrow]

sorry friend, its English only in here

[obsidian sigil]

Doesnt even own macedonia

[fickle thicket]

aint even an empire

and why go inf bulgaria

[pliant ginkgo]

Okay tbf it’s my first play through as Bulgaria

Besides I had to do it on my own since Hungary didn’t join the Axis until 7 days before Romania capitulated, meaning that Germany and Italy couldn’t do anything to help me

[fair horizon]

I couldnt get into bulgaria myself

Seemed extremely weak

[obsidian sigil]

as a byzantine larper bulgaria is an arch nemesis

[fair horizon]

Meanwhile im invading china and india as Australia because i can

[obsidian sigil]

even in regular games i rather puppet all of greece early than to let bulgaria have all of thrace

[karmic viper]

noice

[vernal crescent]

dis wasn't that bad

[obsidian sigil]

cc clique

thats rare

[karmic viper]

dont have NCNS

[obsidian sigil]

Idk if ncns removes cc clique

[grave sonnet]

Most beautiful colour on the map

[wheat mason]

I was thinking will be cool to avoid civil war with Spain or something, there's any mod about that?

[lapis onyx]

Whats a good nation to start as and learn some other dlcs mechanics?

Or is it nation dependent?

[uncut pollen]

Poland

[lapis onyx]

? You dead ass rn

[wheat mason]

is like the only thing too railroaded for Spain like was something unavoidable

[uncut pollen]

Yep

Its the best for learning

[lapis onyx]

H-how

[obsidian sigil]

Coughing baby vs 2 hydrogen bombs

[uncut pollen]

It can get very strong very fast

[lapis onyx]

Modern day poland chomp chomp

The speed bump has teeth

Very sharp

[obsidian sigil]

coughing toddler vs 2 hydrogen bombs

[lapis onyx]

Very angry teeth

[wheat mason]

Spain avoiding the civil war would be so crazy

[lapis onyx]

But ill take your word for it

I have 3 years to prep so it shouldnt be too hard right?

[obsidian sigil]

depends what u learning

[lapis onyx]

Pmuch everything past man the guns

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navy? japan or italy. Air? Probably usa tbh. Ground? Probably an allied minor

[uncut pollen]

Its gonna be easy

[shell sorrel]

Canada (minor) or Italy (major)

[lapis onyx]

I would argue britain for navy

[obsidian sigil]

Bruh

britain players dont touch navy

[lapis onyx]

They start with a large one

[shell sorrel]

Yeah large enough that you can just ignore navy do the entire game and use the default one

[lapis onyx]

Youbwould be surprised

[obsidian sigil]

U dont learn anything about designs

Or even how to optimally use

[lapis onyx]

Fair

[obsidian sigil]

Cause u can just chuck it at any problem and win

[shell sorrel]

Both Canada and Italy are better to learn navy

[lapis onyx]

But are they being legit?

[shell sorrel]

What

[lapis onyx]

About poland being the best to learn

Ive played italy pre man the guns

[obsidian sigil]

trial by fire ig

[shell sorrel]

I think that’s a terrible take

[lapis onyx]

F it

[shell sorrel]

From what I understand they had a horrible old focus tree and the new one is really good

[lapis onyx]

THROW ME INTO THE FLAMES

[obsidian sigil]

Bros gonna get diddied by hitler and stalin

[uncut pollen]

No Filter bypass

[lapis onyx]

?

What do you mean?

[shell sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-wtf-gif-27612761

[lapis onyx]

Also poland got a new focus tree?

When was that

[shell sorrel]

Meant Italy

Idk when Poland got their current one

[winged field]

AI actually surrendering for once.

[karmic viper]

why does yugo look like austrian empire tho

[obsidian sigil]

Why r u

[vernal crescent]

ion wanna sealion

gg too ez

inf template

[karmic viper]

I can relate

[errant remnant]

Peak?

With the RT56 mod ofc

[vernal crescent]

bro HOW IS THE UK so immortal tho