hoi4-general

[terse skiff]

just use line aa if you want to take away cas

and space marines doesn't work anymore after they changed piercing

they don't work anymore

[lapis snow]

playing as latvia?

[uneven marlin]

7-2's exists.

[north merlin]

czech

[lapis snow]

ah

[uneven marlin]

Then just defend.

[north merlin]

i know for a fact i won't have air supermacy

[dusk knoll]

no its not gangy

[fickle thicket]

line arty ass+ spaa ass+ horrible space marine template

[north merlin]

tahts why im using spaa

[dusk knoll]

line arty is peak

[uneven marlin]

You don't need offensive troops, you're not attacking them, just get 18 combat width infantry with engineer companies and support artillery.

[terse skiff]

use line aa then

space marines suck

[uneven marlin]

And maybe support anti aircraft.

[lapis snow]

it's only useful in the first year of the game, after that it falls off due to gun and tank tech

[fickle thicket]

would still suck support aa better

[terse skiff]

why not both

[fickle thicket]

uses more equipment

[north merlin]

i need the spaa for defense against cas

[terse skiff]

technically you need 75 aa attack if you want to maximize cas resistance

[fickle thicket]

atp just fill an entire div with aa and place it in a air zone

[terse skiff]

support aa itself is not enough

[uneven marlin]

You don't have the industry for that from my knowledge.

[terse skiff]

you can but it's not worth

[uneven marlin]

And if you do, then either A: I'd be suprised, or B: your line will be incredibely thin.

[north merlin]

i have 26 mills is that good enough?

[calm steppe]

What are my MEFO bills???

[terse skiff]

you can build 200 36w spg divisions as ussr pre barb

[uneven marlin]

You'll have a rather thin line of defenses.

[terse skiff]

depends on how you plan your industry

but again space marines suck

[uneven marlin]

And that.

[north merlin]

howh so?

[cursive oxide]

ww1 depth

[uneven marlin]

Expensive divsions + low industry = like 1 divsion per tile.

[fickle thicket]

loans that the government needed to pay but had extensions to not pay them so the eco didnt crash

[terse skiff]

go to hoi4 wiki and find the part about how piercing works if you still think space marines are good.

[north merlin]

i have uhhh 36 divs :))

[calm steppe]

Can i do something about it?

[uneven marlin]

How under-equipped are they?

[fickle thicket]

what eco side u goin left or right

[lapis snow]

MEFO was an economic scheme germany used to rearm, it gives you massive bonuses to militarising your economy, but it's a ticking time-bomb and requires you to conquer in order to keep it going.

[north merlin]

96%

[brittle cypress]

i don't like it

[uneven marlin]

96%... As in, 96 guns per 100 people, or 4 guns per 100 people?

[calm steppe]

Damn

[calm steppe]

So i gotta go for poland??

[uneven marlin]

Is the 4% the medium SPAA?

[lapis snow]

you need to follow history and annex austria and czechoslovakia, then go for poland

[fickle thicket]

if u doin mefo bills if not dont bother until 1940

[north merlin]

oh, i haven't integrated it in yet

[calm steppe]

Is that necessary?

[north merlin]

they are towed anti air

[uneven marlin]

And what happens if you do?

[north merlin]

i don't wanna check

[fickle thicket]

yes to reduce the effect

[north merlin]

i am scared

[lapis snow]

if you don't, your economy will grind to a halt in 1939

[uneven marlin]

Right..

[uneven marlin]

So...

What does that tell you?

[north merlin]

cuz like this is my current template

[fickle thicket]

wayyyy too expensive

[dusk knoll]

too expensive on arty

[uneven marlin]

Fine for offense, but you're not doing offense, and they will become under-equipped as the war goes on.

[uneven marlin]

.

[north merlin]

oh, ok so cut the line arty and thats fine?

[uneven marlin]

Yep.

[terse skiff]

and cut the spaa

[north merlin]

kk got it

[north merlin]

oh i didn't integrate it yet thats why i was asking

[terse skiff]

just don't use space marines

[north merlin]

ok.....

[terse skiff]

you can replace the two line art with two line aa

[dusk knoll]

chat is it joever for japanese bros

[fickle thicket]

spaa is only used for cheese

[uneven marlin]

And then either A: Attack with the new infantry division template (If the enemy is incredibly weak), or B: Get dedicated offensive units.

[north merlin]

what is cheese...

[dusk knoll]

also dont ask why theres so many icons its glitched i gotta reboot my game

[terse skiff]

and the cheese stopped working 3 years ago

[calm steppe]

Is this enough for austria?

[uneven marlin]

Using the games mechanies in a way that isn't suppossed to be used.

[north merlin]

uhh should i change the template of my mountain divisions to do that...?

also should i put ranger recon?

[north merlin]

oh, ok

[uneven marlin]

Will you be attacking in mountain tiles?

[modest coyote]

What I saw after playing as china and not looking at europe

[lapis snow]

just use your focus tree and do the anschluss

[north merlin]

not rlly in german tiles

[uneven marlin]

Then no.

[fickle thicket]

scummy tactics such as port cheesing (letting the ai garrison the port then kill the divs and dwindles the div count overtime)

[uneven marlin]

Unless you're not attacking Germany.

But I'm assuming that you are.

[north merlin]

yes, and rn im planning on making medium spgs

[calm steppe]

How? I remilitarized the rhineland but how do i get to anschluss?

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/read-gif-25879491

read

[dusk knoll]

is denmark in the civil war lmao??

[lapis snow]

the game tells you how

[modest coyote]

yes

[lapis snow]

just read

[uneven marlin]

If you can get at-least 2 divisions that's based on those out, then that could form a breach.

[north merlin]

kk

[lapis snow]

me when people would rather me do the thinking for them

[uneven marlin]

Just make sure to attack in plains tiles, and when you get a breach, push heavily into it.

[north merlin]

also im in the commentern idk if that helps

[uneven marlin]

But don't push too heavily, or else you'll get encircled.

[north merlin]

wdym push heavily...

[terse skiff]

follow bittersteel's germany guide

[uneven marlin]

It won't until Poland gets un-exist.

[uneven marlin]

Like for example, you breach a tile, then shove infantry in there, and start taking more land while it's undefended, just atke take take, get encirclements, etc..

[north merlin]

oh, ok

[uneven marlin]

Don't just sit there with that breach, and maybe take a tile or 2.

[north merlin]

kk

[uneven marlin]

But don't go too far or else you will get encircled yourself.

[north merlin]

im lowk kinda excited to see what would happen if i deploy these...

[uneven marlin]

Solidify your gains before advancing, and have your breach be at-least 2 tiles thick.

[uneven marlin]

Gun go no within 5 months of the war.

But line will hold.

[north merlin]

ok sure, i'll let the soviets push lol

[uneven marlin]

Then you'll get no war participation.

[north merlin]

or i can js delete them if i want guns

[uneven marlin]

Think of them as a distraction for the Germans more than anything.

[north merlin]

hmm true

[north merlin]

so then should i train less or what? rn i only have 36 divisions

[uneven marlin]

Just keep them in reserve and see how it goes.

[north merlin]

kk

[uneven marlin]

If you need more guns, then remove some, if you need more men / the line is failing, then deploy them.

[north merlin]

also should i add field hospital?

[uneven marlin]

No.

[burnt trail]

what you guys think abt this endgame?

[uneven marlin]

Unless you're attacking on aggressive for 6 months straight.

[north merlin]

why no? someone told me that they are good and don't listen to anyone else

[uneven marlin]

Which I wouldn't do.

[uneven marlin]

They are.

[fickle thicket]

cancer

[uneven marlin]

But that's if you have a shortage of manpower.

[burnt trail]

nah man its gas bro

w balkanization

[fickle thicket]

its ass

[uneven marlin]

And you shouldn't, unless either A: You have a massive army, or B: You attack on aggressive for 6 months straight.

[dusk knoll]

honestly its not even that bad

[fickle thicket]

no its an eyesore

[north merlin]

oh, alr then im chilling

[burnt trail]

yeah coulda been worse if i had taken russia and yugo

[north merlin]

im on volenteer only and i still have like 100k to spare after600k in field including in training

[uneven marlin]

Then you're fine.

[north merlin]

kk

[calm steppe]

I justified war goal how do i declarw war? Do i just draw the offensive line?

[uneven marlin]

But that 100k will go by quickly during major offensives.

[uneven marlin]

You don't declare war until the justification is done.

[dusk knoll]

nah

i mean at least its like orderly

youve never played as the soviets and the british want to individually puppet every german state

[uneven marlin]

And you cna draw an offensive line, you should be able to just battleplan Poland into submission, but it's the first time for you, and so.. Just prepare to lose Koiningsberg, and then Berlin, and then Germany itself, bu,t that's a start.

[burnt trail]

ig, i lowkey like do to that after every game

[calm steppe]

How do we see how much time it will take?

[uneven marlin]

You don't need to focus on heavy micro at your first gme, just play it simple for now, and see how it goes.

[calm steppe]

Theres a clock

[uneven marlin]

Right lick on their nation.

And then hover over the flag to the right of the clock icon.

And it should say like 0/155 days or something like that.

[calm steppe]

It says german reich justifiying war goals

[hard anvil]

Guys go try out my mod its my first mod

[uneven marlin]

And the day amount?

[burnt trail]

Now this one here is true cancer tho

[calm steppe]

Ah i see

440.0 days

[uneven marlin]

Yep yep ype.

[uneven marlin]

And also.

Man your Fr*nch border.

They will attack you.

If there is nothing there.

[calm steppe]

Cant i just attack?? Why justify?

[uneven marlin]

Best of luck to you.

[uneven marlin]

Well simple.

This is meant to be a realistc game.

[calm steppe]

Blitzkrieg?

[uneven marlin]

And realistically, you can't just tell your soldiers to go and kill other people without a proper reason.

That's why before the invasion of Poland during WW2, Hitler ordered Waffen-SS soldiers to dress up as Polish soldiers, take a German radio tower, and then say, "Polish troops has invaded Germany".

So that Hitler could tell his soldiers that it's Polands fault, and therefore, they have a reason to fight now.

[north merlin]

i'll give y'all constant update

[uneven marlin]

A justification for killing others, if you will.

[uneven marlin]

Sure.

[dusk knoll]

its so jover for delhi bros

[calm steppe]

So what now? I skip 440 days??

[uneven marlin]

You could either A: Wait it out, or B, go to the "Danzig or War" focus.

Which gives you an instant justification for war without having to wait.

[calm steppe]

I dont meet requirements somehow

[uneven marlin]

You need an army of at-least 950 thousand soldiers.

Do you have that?

[calm steppe]

Well, no.

[uneven marlin]

Then spam out more infantry.

[calm steppe]

By training?

[uneven marlin]

It'll be much, much quicker than waiting 440 days.

[uneven marlin]

That's the only way to do it.

[calm steppe]

K

[uneven marlin]

You don't even need them fully trained, just spam deploy them once you can, since all that they're meant to do is hold the line (Not in your case right now, since you're prrobably going to be battleplanning against them, but for the future, that's their job)., you cna train them after they've been deployed by selecting them, and then pressing Ctrl + K.

Which gives you the instant manpower into the field, and they still get trained.

I usually like to train the horse division, spam deploy them, and then convert them to the infantry divison template.

It trains much, much faster.

[calm steppe]

Says i dont have enough infantry eq. And support eq.?

[uneven marlin]

Who needs guns to fight.

Spam anyways.

Until you get to 950k.

[uneven marlin]

(This also mostly bypasses the whole needing guns thing).

[calm steppe]

How? Adding untrained units is depleting my manpower

[uneven marlin]

Then go up more conscription laws.

Go to Extensive Conscription.

You're about to fight a world war, you need as many men as you can get.

[calm steppe]

Where the heck is that

[uneven marlin]

Under Hitler's portrait.

About the 3rd one in the top row when you click on your flag.

Probably.

Or maybe that's trade, I don't know, 1 - 3'rd one.

[scenic pulsar]

genuienly spent a couple years as china in tfr doing focuses and didnt see the military and EADI tree

[uneven marlin]

Top left.

Click on flag.

Don't right click on your nation.

[calm steppe]

Ok done that

[uneven marlin]

And spend your political power.

[uneven marlin]

Your nation is basiaclly useless without it

[uneven marlin]

It's the first one.

Click it, and then go to extensive conscription.

[north merlin]

well y'all good news, both soviets and allies are helpign me

[uneven marlin]

It recruits 5% of your population into your manpower pull, and the only downsides is +10% longer dvision training time.

[lapis snow]

Oh my god, we really having to explain the absolute basics of clicking buttons

[uneven marlin]

Good to hear.

[uneven marlin]

There's a bunch of menus.

[north merlin]

i stopped germany's first wave of attack and rn im waitng for soviets to advance from poland

[lapis snow]

Yeah and this guy has used none of them

Somehow

[uneven marlin]

Spend your political power in the flag menu.... Not that one, but I guess spending it on.. Not great stuff is better than not spending it at all, and hey, doing stuff is how you learn.

[uneven marlin]

It's his 1st game.

We under-estimate how difficult it is to play the game because we can just destroy the USSR with a 4:1 KD ratio while deprived of 16 hours of sleep without issue.

[lapis snow]

Yeah, so you keep the game paused and go through each of them to understand what the hell you’re looking at and what it does

I wasn’t joking when I said to read

The game tells you

[calm steppe]

How about you go outside and touch grass instead of complaining on how im learning the game you play

[uneven marlin]

And that.

Boba, it's fine, I'm the one helping him anyways.

It's not like your wasting any time.

[lapis snow]

I’m just surprised man

[uneven marlin]

.

[calm steppe]

Surprised about what?

[uneven marlin]

That you can't navigate the game's UI.

But it's fine, you'll get it eventually.

[calm steppe]

Because its complex af i got the game yesterday

[uneven marlin]

In the flag menu, you can hire a bunch of people, start doing htat, hover over them to see what they do.

[calm steppe]

K

[uneven marlin]

Don't worry, I fully understand.

But that's what makes this game great.

Because once you do learn it, it's the best thing ever, because you have absolute control over your own nation.

[calm steppe]

Oh the political advisors and stuff?

[uneven marlin]

Yep.

[calm steppe]

So do i hire them blindly or?

[uneven marlin]

Hover over them to see what they do.

[cursive oxide]

no read what the do

[north merlin]

yeah so i think germany is f-ed

[uneven marlin]

And decide what you think is the most important.

I won't tell you what to get, I want you to decide, even if it's not the correct option.

Civilian people is on the top, you can hire companies via the middle row, and the millitary people is on the bottom row.

[north merlin]

lowk should i battle plan and start pushing?

[uneven marlin]

You think.

[uneven marlin]

Do it.

[north merlin]

k

[uneven marlin]

At-least you'll get war participation that way.

[calm steppe]

Got this guy.

[uneven marlin]

Sure.

[calm steppe]

Do I hire for research and production and military staff or so i just skip that.

[uneven marlin]

He's not a great one, and in fact, most people don't choose him because he gives a bunch of negatives for minimal factory output, but, I can see why you chose him, and that's all that matters, is that you're making your own decision, instead of a tutorial telling you blindly who to choose.

[uneven marlin]

Hire everybody that you can.

Spend it all.

Spend your political power like an 18 year old just won the lottery.

[calm steppe]

I can hire Porsche 😂

[uneven marlin]

Then hire them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hire them all!!

Hire so many people, that there's more people working than jobs available,

Which shouldn't be possible, but wjjjdf sdlkfsklfjsldasasg.

[calm steppe]

Why is that so important?

[uneven marlin]

Hiring people gives your nation bonuses.

Bonuses = good.

There's a guy that you can hire that gives all of your infantry +10% attack, and +15% defense.

That's pretty good.

You'd want that if you were going into war, wouldn't you?

[calm steppe]

Yeah i think im running out of political power.

[uneven marlin]

At-least your spending it.

It's better than just hording it.

[calm steppe]

Military staff?

[uneven marlin]

Especially.

You're germany.

Your entire nation depends on war to survive.

[calm steppe]

Ok done im out

Im at 33

[uneven marlin]

Good.

Now your nation is better off than it was 5 minutes ago.

Remember, this game isn't about strategy.

It's about stacking up as many bonuses as possible.

Stack em all up.

Stack em up like Lego bricks.

[calm steppe]

Can you elaborate what are "bonuses"

[uneven marlin]

(You get the Legos from Denmark btw, they surrender pretty quickly).

[uneven marlin]

.

Anything that's green text.

[north merlin]

i took berlin before both soviets and france lmao

[uneven marlin]

EX: +2.5% factory output.

[uneven marlin]

Good.

Now land grab.

[north merlin]

ggs adorable fitter

[calm steppe]

This guy?

[uneven marlin]

Yep.

He's really good.

[calm steppe]

Hired him

[uneven marlin]

Good.

Your army is now 10 or 25% better than it was 2 minutes ago, depending on what they're doing at the current moment.

[calm steppe]

Sitting at frontlines

[uneven marlin]

Seems reasonable.

[calm steppe]

Austria and Poland

Some in France

[uneven marlin]

Austria won't attack you, and you can annnex them anyways via your focus tree.

[calm steppe]

Which focus

[uneven marlin]

It's uhh..

Anschluss.

[calm steppe]

Ok im close to anschluss but the requirement is that Austria needs to be subject to another country

[uneven marlin]

Wait.. What?

Send screenshot.

[uneven marlin]

Oh no.

[calm steppe]

Did i read wrong

[uneven marlin]

Yep.

If that happens, then it gets skipped.

And you can no longer do that focus.

So, good thing that they're not a subject to another nation.

[calm steppe]

So now what

[misty fossil]

I wish it would say infantry BATTALION attack/defense since the way that bonus works is silly. If your inf division has 8 infantry and 8 tanks the division would only receive 5% attack and 7.5% defense stats. How much bonus you get depends on the ratio of each type of battalion relative to the rest of a division

[uneven marlin]

Take that focus.

And on the top of the screen, in that menu, you will see a little book icon.

Click that, and it highlights all of that historical focuses.

[maiden bolt]

bro none of these jobs are getting back to me

god dam

[calm steppe]

I cant

[uneven marlin]

I recommend that for starting out, since there will be no surprises.

[uneven marlin]

Why not?

What's highlighted in red.

[uneven marlin]

Read at "Requires one of the following".

That means that you must take one of those focuses first.

Before taking this one.

Click on the little book icon, just a little up and to the right.

[uneven marlin]

.

[misty fossil]

You havent even done reorganise wehrmacht

[uneven marlin]

Technically personal prefrence though, so.. You can always take another focus that isn't historical if you so wish to.

[calm steppe]

You mean logistics?

[uneven marlin]

Don't know what you're talking about.

But once you do one of those focuses, then you can annex Austria.

[calm steppe]

What book icon

[uneven marlin]

Top of the screen.

It's an open book.

[misty fossil]

do you know how to take a screenshot

[uneven marlin]

It's fine, I can see it just fine.

[misty fossil]

i cant lol i have eyes problem

[calm steppe]

Im talking on my phone

[misty fossil]

ah

[calm steppe]

And playing on the laptop

[misty fossil]

Im legally blind lol

[uneven marlin]

Right.

[misty fossil]

nah its fine

[calm steppe]

Well yeah no i cant see any book icons

[uneven marlin]

Just choose any of those 2 focuses, I would personnally choose to Rally The Wehrmacht, since it's historical.

But it's up to you.

[misty fossil]

Next to the search bar

[ivory hull]

I played the mod and it's just full with for me useless lore

[calm steppe]

Geez i thought that was a bird or something

[minor flint]

Okay? Ignore the lore
Play the mod

[uneven marlin]

I can see it.

[north merlin]

lmao now the french and soviets are fighting in my territory

i didn't join the war

[uneven marlin]

Welcome to Communism.

Everybody suffers equally.

https://tenor.com/view/russia-dance-soviet-union-ussr-cccp-gif-17941265299017662537

[ivory hull]

I did and i just didn't think it was that great

[calm steppe]

Ok i clicked it

[uneven marlin]

Cool.

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-toilet-gif-11267258?comment=7eF5nsj3KMb0iRMNb9HF49KZXtTDslPYyXedMgkH-1oa9RC3pqEc1R7h7VmU7NQLPwFXbkm5kthJaKh3EN0Gg96wYtS0bWgm5XyMzIObdCNpDwiMOIAjEPLlAvBEKPEf2nNeMIf2UOkbfbusZ59nIrglJvw5ZvvGRZi1HYsuYKxPg4KU2pC61XGkfTZoR14eDG2jEDc-V763Vy9QxkcEYrAF8KKq1DfNUklheKqDw5drsx688oi1o6Mv1ukOutHcxfBR32ZlAvfg3cmGcv1rGtUHi7Zznx0A6k3006mX1DZcv4MjNxQIDIpSjQucjgiSywb7bHJcyRbfho4xiBwUVcpZgcBDu5BhOOa6ZQPhpswL0k4QLYL6T5kIGGcP5v41sZqckR9yKERe00g53FaLEhzBWvNeD-TlvIznikHAku07Qoo1sS586Pn33DoyoswUHvE4jr9Nqa1BZuAsn9nBL60M8VNK4qookiW3eCMZ8ye1hMEfP5KL3pZIItDUNUbv4TOjoWMiFnf7rNCqM82JylNgIgOvtISwvxYObyquJuT8ubeCXLtsAQUdW9vlLJb9n3Vt0MEyhhQIt8O2LRou1kKArF5RalGDxj5F7pBRsGhENDypasHm12aIWmc74WdtPkiNyN377MOW6u6Iykn7RP1xUqAFNs83yZqHxMgqSXcI4SPktTepskZVA8i9W6vOXuJ5kSHzyKVJZKWg5Cxo0-10qw0NvBITEuloHZtZmcW38VV4RicbrPYeDwRkhFblj009BedBSVBvEdd0beCDJI9XgAXMjRrWFf5EFl9Sw9MssS50m89oxKZtjdW4ZFPRuB4qgqvugDcxlqu0KrGWCqrNzknMSxOsburz4hoNZclK8XT0wXmATOWUnPp9djdYTXQrjKvizGIpKap0yjEK9WfZ8oE452d73kkKNp1P4MNnaFJn8beAgTXviKaR75KvFEYnObaheGueDGtOG7wFR67x2Wtps1Vl7QTSHOV2hHBB6L4E9uzGorYjTwvb09i1ayRrWyZNGmkAsfr7GC14MT85r1nKvk0lTl075lbrrQD8WI3rIic0EgHej-fsqirFSs3cDvETukxbU5k0DtTSFvLiomASuaWgV1W3l1Lv7AUijemaGWMFc54PSvy6zNT8NKDGBukW90GSDLcSzDlEojbe9m4e3QZoQ6H6pMIVsufBQJYNEXe6iian4rRAhRb2a6PVHMjcbirJLT0VQdpooXfvgzxj2gbk3AzFYzhDfywrworWFuNSGeT1BgUO3C3BY60jY7uc2eOkpEcNJdGc6NUdLi6ktIxUgITXx2qrLXj7yr3j0IC3WG5RjjWa1XNiHhm5ZrafAsKZczNHN1YRBeKWyzIW1q5xniAFduDxf0YCQQyyRwCK8Wqf3pzyOyP91NJO5oHJyrEBEGqaBbJ5zwgr8lkdw8BP7AQ2RU-kog6wi242zYVrdKJ7H5cxxys2jdP3UxrsxGswRn3vFjuKR0s7LwfsUzdwFm2dAU2PLyxU3xtnTw0FfxNwA9sDRna3DwRrQUyuEqh2scio7cnFPxgle9cGeatGDxlrPhxuA9Mxs9Xd8SoydWwmP-Hbd1D3KgL7I6UvjQ38Uqa9intMu9KuHCJ7DF2KVnKXthxw1rzwwAf9W9mk6UMaGbyuXTu88Ic5KsiMpLN5YHrmOHj4Uy96rkq7VVGaQlgFgNjCzFH9BDiNebeVy8GIO4UZ7qXvmB1EoeD2QCrAf-ncyx6NbxX6yU40FZpf3QJQUFCIM8C8zt0jnoQ5u1npMLT62OK4l36qzp27vwU2Xt5eIEUVh6k4gwRKxXgQy6mJxZDDKb92j0eHuPvcz8tFxR8MRdKv2lS4ZaI8JTEOJDyQyM5JlI8emdGvX7FjEgX1DA

[uneven marlin]

Now once that's done, politely tell Austria that they're no longer welcome as a sovereign nation.

[minor flint]

Eh, was for me
I use it over vanilla
The GFX stuff also looks cool and gameplay was fun for me

[north merlin]

except im thriving lmao, they fighting im js watching

[uneven marlin]

See, you're getting the hang of it.

[calm steppe]

I mean i clicked the book icon

[minor flint]

EaW actually made me experiment with different tactics

[calm steppe]

Didnt select any focus

[uneven marlin]

Right..

Once you choose one then.

[north merlin]

well... i took germany as a whole without a peace conferance

[uneven marlin]

Good.

[calm steppe]

Reorganize the wehrmarcht?

[ivory hull]

I only played the changelings and the mussolini guy and like 2 submods so I never got around too much

[uneven marlin]

If that's what you want.

[north merlin]

btw the remaining fighting signs are js soviets and allies fighting on my land cuz i gave both of them millitary access lmao

[calm steppe]

Well I was initially asking

[uneven marlin]

It's also historical, so there won't be any surprises as to what will happen.

[calm steppe]

Which path leads to annexing Austria

[uneven marlin]

It looks like a christmas tree.

[uneven marlin]

Any of them do.

[calm steppe]

Ok i started

[uneven marlin]

That's why it says "Requires one of the following".

Coolio.

[calm steppe]

It’ll take 35 days

[cursive oxide]

ACHELUSS

[uneven marlin]

That's short.

And good.

[uneven marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/nikocado-nicokado-avocado-grammar-grammatical-error-gif-27702831

[minor flint]

Congrats you played the most vannilla and very very old countries in the game

Meanwhile I took over 1/4 of a continent with bicycles while having 25% efficiency growth on top of having 17.5 division speed

[north merlin]

yes lol

[calm steppe]

So now i just wait?

[north merlin]

both of them are fighting each other while defending me against the rest of the axis

reminds me of my parents

[ivory hull]

Nothing is stopping you to do that in vanilla

[calm steppe]

Or is something gonna explode

[minor flint]

Yeah but vannilla doesn't have expanded tech trees letting you do more funky stuff, 4 extra sub doctrine slots

[uneven marlin]

Yep.

[ivory hull]

Ok true

[minor flint]

And in Vannilla late game war is just a slog of pumping more divisions

[uneven marlin]

It shouldn't.

[calm steppe]

Gtg

[uneven marlin]

Alrighty, welp, you've learned a lot today.

[calm steppe]

Thanks for the help @uneven marlin

[uneven marlin]

No problemo, good-night, or morning, or afternoon, whatever it is for you right now.

[terse skiff]

anyway, speaking of spaa, here is my version of spaa

[minor flint]

I only played vannilla a few days ago was for Strasser cuz he looks like a rat and I like his flag and cosmetic colour

Tho I did make a custom mod that changes the sub ideology gfx of vannilla with TFR ones

[north merlin]

how...

[minor flint]

Saving that

[uneven marlin]

It's from a Youtube video.

[uneven marlin]

Some Finland variation + Denmark + Soviet Russia.

[craggy trail]

[north merlin]

damn...

[minor flint]

Hey btw could you check EaW wiki's icepaw entry
Some of the image files seem to not work right

[dusk knoll]

holy state transfer tool

[uneven marlin]

Quite literally holy in this case.

[craggy trail]

That's just a coding issues with the traits database. It'll be fixed eventually

[minor flint]

Ight

[lusty shuttle]

i need some help with a mod i downloaded can yall help please?

[craggy trail]

So yeah. You'll have to wait in the mean time

[minor flint]

https://tenor.com/view/carter-eats-chicken-black-guy-chicken-gif-25247477

I will deep-fry this goddamn bird

[ivory hull]

where is tommykay?

[wraith mauve]

IS this tuff

[craggy trail]

As far as I know, the mod you mentioned isn't currently updated to Peace for Our Time. You may need to roll back hoi4's version to play that mod

I would recommend going to that mod's server for more specific help

[craggy trail]

He's a character for Yale

[ivory hull]

whatever that means

[craggy trail]

It's a nation at the start of the game while the Griffonian Empire is still fractured

[lusty shuttle]

im new to hoi4 whats peace for our time is it a new update?

[craggy trail]

Peace for Our Time is the latest DLC/Update released on April 22, adding new content for Czechoslovakia

[ocean pollen]

Just DLC with czechoslovakia Focus tree (updated one)

Guys did BBA worth to buy?

[craggy trail]

Definitely worth getting for aircraft customization

[ivory hull]

most worth it are bba and nsb

[craggy trail]

If it is your first time getting a DLC, No Step Back is the most recommended DLC to start off.

[misty fossil]

and la resistance

its those 3

of course granted you need to buy all the dlcs marked as expansion

[craggy trail]

Hoi4 is currently on sale at the moment

[ocean pollen]

i have NSB with LA

[craggy trail]

Ah then By Blood Alone, then a choice of Arms Against Tyranny or Gotterdamerung

[ocean pollen]

ok thanks but for now i might wait another chance sale

after i buy bba

[misty fossil]

honestly just buy all the mods that start with expansion

bba, aat, nsb, la resistance, ncns and gotterdammerung

@ocean pollen

[hard depot]

I may have bought nearly all of the expansions

[misty fossil]

but if you can only buy one then my personal preference would be la resistance

[ocean pollen]

ok ok i get it i know for it

[hard depot]

(But I need them Escort Carriers.)

[ocean pollen]

.

[misty fossil]

yeah same i have all the dlcs except goe

good

then grab the other ones

can you buy all the expansion stuff

honestly just buy them then install an overhaul mod like kr, kx, tfr or eaw

[ocean pollen]

Just one of them

[misty fossil]

ah

um then id say bba

if you can manage it, also get aat

mios are genuinely powerful (looking at you focke wulf/mystichiy)

i should do a third rome game tbh

[north merlin]

@uneven marlin are u proud of me :)

sorry if i posted this a bit late but i finally did it, i defeated the axis

[pine shale]

How do i know what units to produce?

Im new

[ivory hull]

look at the tab all the way to the right

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcp1ooD_YqY&pp=ygURaG9pNCBjb21iYXQgZ3VpZGU%3D

[pine shale]

But how do i know which units to produce/train

[ivory hull]

you need

good pushing units

[misty fossil]

basically everything tbh

[ivory hull]

and divisions for holding

the line

[misty fossil]

it takes like

a couple hours for someone to explain it to you thoroughly

[lapis snow]

This is the strategy part of the strategy game. Think about it.
You want to win offensive war
This requires offensive units
What stats do offensive units need?
What type of battalions and supports will give me that?
What equipment do those battalions and supports require?
You need industry to make that equipment

So you militarise your economy to make the army that you need to win

[north merlin]

i did this in 4 hours

def worth it

started as czec

W nation to play

[misty fossil]

this might sound unrelated, but it does, so i'll add to this
in architecture education, you are usually encouraged to conduct research and studies on your own. for example, in a class you would be told "for this window you can look into a specific casement window detail" and you are expected to do research at home outside of class instead of having your teacher doing it for you
the reason why you have to spend time researching is that nobody is going to be around for you to ask questions all the time, so you're basically being taught researching skills

[ivory hull]

researching what to do in hoi is basically a minefield

[hard depot]

The Time Minefield

Choose the wrong research? say goodbye to precious time you desperately need

[misty fossil]

and the reason why i brought it up here is that it appears to me that when people play hoi4 and they don't understand something (including myself, which literally just dawned on me right now), it feels like they expect to be spoon-fed an answer wthout really trying to grasp the nature of that answer (for example why 9/1, or 9/0)

they ask the wrong questions usually

[ivory hull]

i meant looking up what to do in hoi, not actual research

[lapis snow]

works similar with my actual job where I can instruct people what to do up to a point and then have to move into coaching where they're building on an existing skill base and feeling what's better/worse

[misty fossil]

instead of asking "should i use motorised or mechanised", or "is this a good division", i feel like they would be better off asking "why is line artillery bad" or "why is motorised worse than mechanised"?

yeah i feel like hoi4 requires a higher skill floor/ceiling

it's not like roblox where it's all sunshin and rainbow

[ivory hull]

learning curve is pretty big

[hard depot]

Motorized is Kringe because it's basically worse version of Kavalry

[misty fossil]

i've been told exactly this thing several times as i studied architecture

[hard depot]

Horsed Based, trucks Kringe.

[misty fossil]

you literally cannot survive if you keep expecting people to spoon feed you knowledge

you have to use your brain and research

[ivory hull]

copying hoi4 builds works btw

[misty fossil]

but that will only work so long as there are people who do the research for you to copy

which is a reason why i avoid overhaul mods

[ivory hull]

because you dont have guides?

[misty fossil]

it's just diminishing returns to learn entirely new mechanics and dynamics, and receive little enjoyment in return

[hard depot]

It's already 150 hours onto HOI4 for me, and i'm already down amazing at GW Redux

[fair horizon]

YOU PLAY VNR

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux only adds 1 new mechanic btw

[misty fossil]

i mean i can find guides myself

[ivory hull]

gwr fell off

[misty fossil]

i was talking about stuff like

black ice

[hard depot]

Not that bad.

[misty fossil]

why sweat in bice when i can play kx

[ivory hull]

ok but bice also is the overhaul mod

[misty fossil]

exactly

[ivory hull]

why play anything when you can play kx

[misty fossil]

i'm literally not paid to try to learn bice

[ivory hull]

ok imma be fully honest

its not too hard

[misty fossil]

ill do another kx run istg

[ivory hull]

once you look into

[misty fossil]

😭

[ivory hull]

just a lot of bs

[misty fossil]

ive played canada in kx

[ivory hull]

WRONG

brother

[misty fossil]

its just

[ivory hull]

worse country you couldve picked

[misty fossil]

idk if my overhauled designers work with kx

probs not

i prefer playing with my designer mods

vnr has a kx compatch though so thats half the story

[ivory hull]

they might work

there is also enhanced ai for kx

[misty fossil]

yeah

probs doesnt work with vnr

because vnr has its own in house naval ai logic

which works pretty well

[dusk knoll]

texas looking a little nostalgic

[misty fossil]

its the exception not the rule

[ivory hull]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2964793578
this mod?

[misty fossil]

but yeah if you've signed up to play hoi4 you need to raise the bar for yourself and learn how to do research

which is something i need to keep in mind for myself since i treat this as a comfort game

[misty fossil]

yeah

i would say vnr is a genuinely good mod

i'm not endorsed or paid to advertise the mod or anything

[ivory hull]

why rework navy if we wont use it

[misty fossil]

but like it's just good

who says i dont use it

i mean im not forcing you to

[ivory hull]

i spammed like 7 torp dds as germany yesterday

and

this happened

[digital aurora]

i like VNR since i can make the kirov class cruisers without them being classed as heavy cruisers

[ivory hull]

so i might use navy

and spam

[misty fossil]

iirc vanilla naval ai is broken

[ivory hull]

torpedo dds

[digital aurora]

if only we had torpedo boats ingame, but i feel like since they would be so cheap to make it would cause tons of lag

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyjG34tyX1s

[ivory hull]

im 1 minute 50 in and hes building civs

[digital aurora]

well yeah, you gotta have civs to make more dockyards, aswell as to have a little bit of a edge due to MEFO bills

[ivory hull]

buildings civs as germany is just not good

you get enough from austria/czechs

[misty fossil]

i mean

[ivory hull]

@fair horizon what doctrines are best for torp destroyer spam?

[misty fossil]

you can build like 7 civs to get the heraeus research slot

[ivory hull]

nooo

broo

you get them from austria

[misty fossil]

i guess that works too

idk i havent played nazi ger in a long time

[ivory hull]

6th focus is the research slot basically

[digital aurora]

me either, but im also a big civ greed person, i always hope to have atleast 1 civ factory being constructed even in 1940 as the Soviets

[misty fossil]

ngl just like, read the tooltip

[ivory hull]

bro i dont know which navy stats are important

[misty fossil]

isnt there a torpedo flotilla subdoctrine

what about decisive battle

im a carrier stand user

[ivory hull]

idk if its good

was told once that you usually dont grind your navy doctrin

e

idk tho

[misty fossil]

what does that mean

[fair horizon]

Idk i dont think it matters

[misty fossil]

i love carriers

[fair horizon]

destroyer spam is lazy

[ivory hull]

then whats the best ones

[misty fossil]

it matters actually

how bad are carriers in vanilla

vnr buffs them to the heavens

segl ranked it as c tier apparently

[ivory hull]

pretty sure carriers are op

i think

[misty fossil]

yeah but dont carrier torp planes target whatever ships with the highest hp so it would be countered by AA SHBBs

or did they change the logic to make naval bombers always target other carriers now

in vnr all my capital ship kills (92-93 out of 100 times) and 10 out of 10 carrier kills are from naval bombers/naval cas

[terse skiff]

6592 attack 😍

[ivory hull]

whats the best doctrine tho?

[cobalt dawn]

kaboom

[dusk knoll]

wtf country is that

that seems useless to nuke

[dusk knoll]

template

[terse skiff]

if I had a penny for everytime someone who should be asking about industry instead of templates, I would have maybe 1 dollar by now already

[cobalt dawn]

i have no idea there called partisans

[dusk knoll]

i can see ur industry in the top bro

[cobalt dawn]

im just doing it for goofs

[cobalt dawn]

its just a prank 😃

[terse skiff]

yeah and that's more important than a glitch in the system

anyway I'm only using tds because I'm fighting against +4 ai

[north merlin]

how u so many support comp???

[terse skiff]

mods

[dusk knoll]

what on gods green earth is that mod gng

"its not cheating"

[terse skiff]

how else am I going to consume all that ic

it's for when you have too much industry

[dusk knoll]

how much support does it even take per division

[north merlin]

oh, ok

[cobalt dawn]

hmmm

[north merlin]

also, why is the review of ncns dlc so negative on steam?

[lapis snow]

1545 factories, understandable

[north merlin]

i dont' see howh it's b ad

[dusk knoll]

its because it shouldnt be a dlc

[lapis snow]

hoi4 players incredibly salty about pricing and dlc-locking content despite this always having been the case

[dusk knoll]

also question is there any mods that like make the ai more efficient with their divisions?? like they wont put 50 generals on 4 divisions or whatever

[north merlin]

how so? i think it's pretty reasonable

[terse skiff]

i mean my battalions take around 5.5k cost so the supports add up to around 4k cost

[cobalt dawn]

mostly due to being overpriced ig

[lapis snow]

afaik, no. Something to do with the AI not being able to manage frontlines without having a million different armies

[north merlin]

oh trust me, you have not seen the real "over price"

[terse skiff]

because it was so broken and bugged on day one

[north merlin]

ahem me feeding the war thunder snail by buying 1 toptier premium at full price

[dusk knoll]

yeah is there no mods that like patches that

[north merlin]

is it still bugging?

[terse skiff]

yes

[lapis snow]

why do you care?

[terse skiff]

ai still doesn't no how to use their navy

[dusk knoll]

cause with big nations fighting half the army just doesnt have a general and it seems unfair

[cobalt dawn]

all hail the great snail

[dusk knoll]

also it lags the game hella

like late game

[north merlin]

nah i waged war against the snail after me buying su30mkk at full price and then they immediately nerfs pl12 missile

[lapis snow]

late game performance is worse because of div and equipment counts more than because of AI army organisation

[cobalt dawn]

the snail finds a way

[north merlin]

im boycotting the snail by paying paradox lol

bought 3 dlcs during this sale

[cobalt dawn]

truly a bargain

[vital cove]

sheep's mod
but its not updated for this patch

[dusk knoll]

i thought sheeps mod was super hard or nah

is it like settings

[lapis snow]

it has settings, but the baseline "normal" is quite a bit harder

[viscid stirrup]

hi

[acoustic wasp]

dictatorship or wilhelm? which is better?

[misty fossil]

doesnt matter

just pick whatever you want to larp as

[acoustic wasp]

wilhelm i guess

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[misty fossil]

ok

damn i love these durr gifs sm

https://tenor.com/view/meme-durr-dur-cute-emoji-gif-6909285260200907065

[acoustic wasp]

i just wasted 100 xp because i forgot to switch from mobile warfare to grand battle plan

https://tenor.com/view/orange-fish-spognebob-phone-gif-3064144843174203984

what is this bruh lmao

[pine shale]

How do I know what units to make and what to research please help

[heavy vigil]

how are you?

[acoustic wasp]

so austria is currently fascist as usual and i also cant justify on them because they didnt generate tension, will they slowly become non aligned or what's the play here?

[acoustic wasp]

you're gonna need a 3 hour youtube session to figure it out

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[fervent estuary]

There’s a decision you can take

[acoustic wasp]

lemme check

oh yeah

thanks

[fervent estuary]

You’re welcome

[cobalt dawn]

whats the difference between the nuclear bomb and the thermonuclear bomb?

[acoustic wasp]

thermo nuclear bomb is a nuclear bomb on steroids

[fervent estuary]

First is nuclear and second(intense) thermonuclear

[cobalt dawn]

nvm i got my answer

[fervent estuary]

Oh and the thermonuclear effect lasts 2 years

[fervent estuary]

How does the world look like

[cobalt dawn]

more for giggles

[grave sonnet]

-50% divs defence is crazy

[cobalt dawn]

a little shitshow here and there

evil

[cursive oxide]

restart ?

[vital cove]

yea

[acoustic wasp]

i tried playing japan for the first time yesterday and i got bored of the political mini game mechanics and just quit, also the chinese just threw like 400 something divisions at me and i got stuck in a war there for over 2 years

[cursive oxide]

why did this happen to ?

[acoustic wasp]

if you dont cap them before may they have exiled government mechanics

they'll just run to the brits and stay there

[vital cove]

you were too slow

[acoustic wasp]

you won't get a peace conference

[cobalt dawn]

hmmm

[cursive oxide]

a oke

[acoustic wasp]

restart

take the army north of ethiopia in a group, the army south in somalia in another group, then take all your army divisions, slap the mountaineers in the north and tanks in the south

make the northern army 22 divisions and the southern one with tanks 24 divisions

add both army groups to a field marshal, have them aggressively execute battle plans

when kingdom of aussa submits take the 2 divisions they will give you and fill the northern army to 24 and adjust the front line again

this button here, once you are done with ethiopia dont forget to turn it off back to balanced

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-ripbozo-pitalonzo-alex-lafreniere-alex-iafreniere-gif-18890780

[cursive oxide]

[ivory hull]

you did the decision?

[acoustic wasp]

nah someone told me i did it right after and I'm just researching the panzer tree until i can do the focus

[cobalt dawn]

yamamotos wild ride

[bright hare]

smth is off

[fair horizon]

massed strike force or w/e gives -2 hours to carrier strikes

[ivory hull]

my spam still somewhat worked

my navy got clapped 2 seconds after

[lapis snow]

lost the screens so yeh ofc

[fair horizon]

garuentee the naval bombers did all the work

[ivory hull]

was cas btw

[ivory hull]

i still landed so

[lapis snow]

then they did their job

[ivory hull]

i also forgot to put the navy down after i landed

[cursive oxide]

the did not want to give me some land

[rich gulch]

do i need ships on a port for my troops to do a naval invasion?

[lapis snow]

you need them on patrol

[rich gulch]

oh ok

[fair horizon]

even better

[ivory hull]

imma go and see who did the damage

[rich gulch]

is it fine if i dont complete this

its literally impossible

[fair horizon]

you can check the after action report thing

[fair horizon]

this open the bottom left thing

[cursive oxide]

what to do ?

[ivory hull]

ok lwk i only had a save before the battle so it turned out different

[cursive oxide]

annex or puppet or >?

[ivory hull]

theres 5 entries for my planes

[fair horizon]

yeah planes do damage

[cursive oxide]

nice

[ivory hull]

this time i even saved the navy

[cursive oxide]

aslo what do i do with this ?

[acoustic wasp]

loool this is hilarious

[ripe slate]

Why so?

[acoustic wasp]

being able to annex my faction members

i can avoid blockades for longer and build up even harder

first time playing this path

[halcyon dirge]

what country? @acoustic wasp

[acoustic wasp]

germany

non aligned path

[halcyon dirge]

okay

[pine shale]

How do I know what units to make and what to research please help

[cursive oxide]

what do i get ?

[grave sonnet]

Mare Nostrum

It's better since

Roman empire

Got more cores

[pine shale]

How do i know how many planes to make

[grave sonnet]

Wym

[cinder ice]

can you use planes well?

[cinder ice]

whatever tactics you usually use

i like motorized and tank rush so i make motorized and tanks

[pine shale]

Idk any tactics bruh

[pine shale]

?

[cinder ice]

i personally use a lot of motorized infantry and tanks to encircle

maybe find some on yt

[spiral prawn]

Russia is fun

[cinder ice]

wait how do i drop nukes

i need to nuke berlin

[spiral prawn]

Alt f4

[cinder ice]

ty

.

[wide osprey]

nooooo bro

😭

don't do it

[sly venture]

i hate the new update

[cinder ice]

dw i didnt

[zenith charm]

its just so that you don't rush anschluss

[cinder ice]

....

[spiral prawn]

Whats wrong?

[zenith charm]

you can easily get it by mid 1937

[cinder ice]

anschluss in 1946

[sly venture]

you use to get it by 1936 mid

[zenith charm]

yea well paradox is against the meta 😔

[sly venture]

THEY RUINED GERAMNY

[ivory hull]

ok

bro

anschluss 1st of may

[pine shale]

Best beginner nation?

[ivory hull]

18 mils on guns

train 22 inf divs day 1

thats it

[cinder ice]

...

[shell sorrel]

Strat bombers or a few more special projects

[sly venture]

requires 2 more xtra buttons

[cinder ice]

nvm i figured it out

[ivory hull]

brother

[shell sorrel]

IMO Canada

Especially if you don’t have DLCs

[cinder ice]

luxembourg

[cinder ice]

:/

[molten forge]

this is for a tank model btw

[ivory hull]

get nsb

[molten forge]

i will

but for now i lowk wanna get this tank

[shell sorrel]

And for major powers I’d argue Italy tbh. It’s more complex on paper than Germany but easier in execution in my experience

[sly venture]

i hate when i have to press 2 extra buttons cause of paradox horrible desicion makng

[ivory hull]

you get cool ratios tho with new germany

[cinder ice]

22:1 losses

god damn

[cobalt dawn]

i quit here

nty germany

im not gonna do ww3

3m casualties already

10 thermonuclear bombs dropped already

🙏

[shell sorrel]

I think I got something like 30:1 before I started pushing as democratic Italy vs Germany

I turned the alps into a damn meat grinder

[pine shale]

do i need to worry abt navy as a new player

dog

the official hoi4 tutorial video is so boring

[shell sorrel]

What country

It entirely depends on that

[pine shale]

swedenm

[shell sorrel]

Entirely optional, but you have a decent opportunity to at least learn a bit of it

Do you know which side you plan on joining if any

Also do you have Man The Guns

[pine shale]

idk bruh im new to this game

[lapis snow]

everyone does, it's base game now

[shell sorrel]

Oh good to know

[shell sorrel]

Do you wanna be Democratic and join the allies, Communist and join the Soviets, Fascist and join the Axis, or Monarchist and wildcard

[pine shale]

out of fuel

[shell sorrel]

If either of the first 2, you barely need a navy. Probably just try to build some destroyers with depth charges to deal with u-boats

[shell sorrel]

That’s normal genuinely just don’t worry about it rn

You don’t need fuel atm just keep all your units exercising

[pine shale]

what does this do

[shell sorrel]

Try to find some other YouTubers who are actually interesting

I like iSorrow

[shell sorrel]

Training new units

[shell sorrel]

Click your 2 armies at the bottom and press K on each of them after you click

[pine shale]

ok

[shell sorrel]

Then click the navy button and air button in bottom right and do the same with all your planes and ships

[pine shale]

i should spam civilian factories rn right

[shell sorrel]

That way you start getting xp

Infrastructure first

Since most countries including Sweden start with civilian economy so you’re gonna be building civ factories super slow

You need to mobilize the economy first by getting 25% war support and spending 150ish political power

Infrastructure will help you build factories faster later anyway

[pine shale]

everywhere?

[shell sorrel]

Focus on the southern half first

Is what I usually do as Sweden

Northern areas can be good too though it’ll increase your available resources and there’s a focus later or something that rewards you if you have high infrastructure in the north

Maybe go to YT and just type in Sweden hoi4 guide 2026

And click through until you find someone that’s entertaining

[pine shale]

im out of fuel

[molten forge]

lowk are naval bombers enough to fight the british navy

[acoustic wasp]

damn lol

[sly venture]

this time it will work

[shell sorrel]

Legit don’t worry about it unless you are actively in a war and out of fuel

[pine shale]

should i spam civ factories in all provinces until 1938

then convert them to military

[acoustic wasp]

mannnn

this is taking too long

[wide osprey]

can we have better fronline management system so i can order my troops to abandon this 100 km gape and retreat to the river WITHOUT braking the whole frontline and/or manually ordering all my 100 units

[acoustic wasp]

ok so, civs do two things

they help you build other structures, and you trade them for resources, 1 civ gives you 8 resources

now building civs, how much, till when depends on the military builds you want to go for as well as the nation you are playing and how much resources they have

Infrastructure helps you build faster and increases the resource output on your own lands, if you see for example a province gives you 20 steel and has 40% infrastructure, if you max that out it could give you 40 steel instead.

so for example if you will go for an armoured build like germany you're going to need a lot of resources to build your tanks, germany has enough civillian factories already and you keep on swallowing your neighbours and take their factories

as for finland for example you wont really opt for a lot of armoured divisions as their infantry is very buffed and you get dragged to a war with the soviets early on, you could of course opt for an armour build if you manage to annex your scandanavian neighbours through the focus tree and you have the industry for it

[shell sorrel]

And in the case of Sweden you have tons of natural resources and not much manpower, so it’s very reasonable to pursue an armor heavy military

Plus I think you start with imp light tank?

[acoustic wasp]

never played sweden yet honestly so i can't tell

[sly venture]

@sudden thistle i finally did not fail sea lion

[shell sorrel]

They have lots of steel and tungsten

[acoustic wasp]

noice, now i know what im playing next

[shell sorrel]

Their tree is quite good

One of my favorite nations tbh

[acoustic wasp]

im currently peacefully swallowing my neighbours as non aligned germany

it's taking too long

[shell sorrel]

And Sweden has a cool monarchist path too if that’s your thing

[acoustic wasp]

surrounded by italian communists

french communists

[shell sorrel]

Mama Mia

[acoustic wasp]

and belgium is slowly turning communist too

[shell sorrel]

Just hope they don’t join the Comintern

Or you might be cooked

[hollow knoll]

Looking for a group to play with. Is there a room/server I can join?

[wide osprey]

👍

It's the biggest piece of dog shit that I've ever played

[lapis snow]

Man discovers force concentration from over a year ago

[acoustic wasp]

im gonna take the bennelux rq then just cap france and italy quicker and turn to papa stalin

[shell sorrel]

What’s the UK doin

[acoustic wasp]

chilling i guess

[rich gulch]

literally impossible to invade

[acoustic wasp]

too late this is gonna be very interesting actually

[acoustic wasp]

naval invade their eastern coast

[shell sorrel]

You might be highkey cooked

[rich gulch]

near nanjing?

[shell sorrel]

Maybe go for the Nordics?

[rich gulch]

they have troops on the coast tho

[shell sorrel]

And try to ally Finland or something

[acoustic wasp]

Calma we got this

[rich gulch]

sell me some inf

[acoustic wasp]

i guess so i didnt play japan much

[shell sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[rich gulch]

pls

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4470566

[shell sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/marmota-cooking-hold-up-gif-5382607284931131048

[acoustic wasp]

time to spam collabs on papa stalin's head

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[shell sorrel]

Just gonna try to hold the French at maginot while you invade?

Then turn around to curb stomp after?

[acoustic wasp]

yeap the usual around the maginot

[shell sorrel]

Oh you’re going for France first

[acoustic wasp]

got 12 of my finest divisions that will be phased out to mechanised too

[acoustic wasp]

yeah the weaklings first

[shell sorrel]

“Armor”

look inside
trucks

[acoustic wasp]

Used it to invade poland, mechanised otw chill

[ivory hull]

youve got individual excellence?

[shell sorrel]

Do the armored recon actually help much there

[ivory hull]

they give you good buffs

also with doctrines

[shell sorrel]

I thought their buffs mostly applied to tanks

[ivory hull]

yea

[shell sorrel]

Do they apply to SPGs too?

[ivory hull]

armor in general afaik

[shell sorrel]

Ah ok

[acoustic wasp]

no, assault infantry is too good

[ivory hull]

individual excellence is better for tanks tho

[pine shale]

how many units should i train ?

[rose radish]

700lk hollyyyyy

[shell sorrel]

As many as you can basically

Which in your case isn’t many more since you have 4K manpower left

[acoustic wasp]

depends on how much you can equip properly

[fossil dragon]

just 12 to go

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-insane-stewie-family-guy-finals-gif-5655336

[pine shale]

now i have 0 manpower what do id o

[shell sorrel]

Cry

[lethal ether]

raise conscription law

pls just watch a tutorial, 99% of your questions will be answered!

[pine shale]

bro i watched 1 hour hoi4 offickal tutorial

[lethal ether]

and u dont know what to do when ure low on manpower?

[pine shale]

yes

[lethal ether]

then watch it again

[pine shale]

no

[rose radish]

for sweden id recommend one basic frontline unit and one offensive unit

for the mean time while you build up your army just spam the cav since its fast to train and cheap or the armefoldering

but to be honest as sweden you need to rush the tech tree

soo you can just steal denmarks finland and norways armies

way better

and you can focus your resources on better troops

but hey we all have our strats

[misty fossil]

use henschel

and daimler benz as the producing mio

[acoustic wasp]

need da speed

i dont care too much about german mios they are all fantastic

[misty fossil]

also use riveted armour bro 😭

[rose radish]

does it really matter??

[ivory hull]

after czechs you get the op one

[misty fossil]

obviously?

infantry tank mios are very powerful

[rose radish]

since i just use man didnt bother to try other stuff really except henschell

[pine shale]

wtf is this bro

[lapis snow]

another scary menu boogly woogly woo!

[rose radish]

a better system than before

not really scary

you select a specific doctrine first then sub doctrines thats just it

[lapis snow]

this kid went off about being overwhelmed the other day, I'm taking the mick