hoi4-general

[oak mantle]

Gotterdamerung is one of the best dlcs to buy if you dont have any dlc

Imo

[fair horizon]

in what way?

[oak mantle]

Germany

[fair horizon]

it adds some useless special projects and a tree for austria and a slight change for germany?

[oak mantle]

The focus tree for germany yeah

[fair horizon]

its honestly the most overrated crap one there is

imo even NCNS is better

[oak mantle]

Talking for the sake of talking dude

How is NCNS better than gotter

Id rather have a good germany focus tree than a japan one

[fair horizon]

well for one, you can actually use the special projects in ww2 instead of after ww3

phillipines tree is solid

japan tree is solid

[oak mantle]

Phillipines tree is just a meme

[fair horizon]

it adds useful buildings for naval if you're into that

[oak mantle]

2nd country in the game to be able to form the spanish empire which makes literally no sense

[fair horizon]

what does gotter add other than a ahistorical change to germany?

[oak mantle]

After spain

[oak mantle]

A full revamp of the entire tree lol

[fair horizon]

its really not a full revamp

[oak mantle]

Idk what its like in the non-dlc version of hoi4 but pre gotterdamerung the tree sucked

[fair horizon]

the historical path is literally the same

[grave phoenix]

its not

[fair horizon]

i cant speak for the ahistorical because ive never bothered to play it

[fair horizon]

in what way does it change?

[oak mantle]

Ahistorical germany is pretty good besides the cw being too easy

[grave phoenix]

saying the tree after goe is the same as before is mega cope what

[fair horizon]

the historical part and we're talking about gotter

[grave phoenix]

goe is not that important as dlc but it still changed a lot for ger esp

[grave phoenix]

yeah

[oak mantle]

Also gotterdamerung changed the eco and military tree and also added inner circle (not sure if people without the dlc still get it or not but im talking about pre-dlc release)

[fair horizon]

it didnt change anything on the historical tree unless theres a single focus im blind to

[fair horizon]

im 90% the inner circle is there because i havent played germany since ive gotten gotter

and i remember asking which ones were good

[grave phoenix]

didnt know that the inner circle was there before xd

[oak mantle]

Lmao what

[grave phoenix]

he doesn’t mean the ft before goe update

pure vanilla ft after goe is not hard different to with go, there are important changes but I get what he means

I also understood it as if he meant pre goe update focus tree

[oak mantle]

Yh i think he means without the dlc

Not sure how much is different without dlc tbh cause i bought the dlc on release

[grave phoenix]

which is true u said dlc alone not update

theres more important dlcs like nsb or bba

to get if u have none

[oak mantle]

I like nsb

Bba is good but plane designer is meh

[north merlin]

im playing as democratic canada rn, do i put an spg unit in my standard inf template and play it as space marine or should i create a separate armor template for that? my industry isn't very good

[fair horizon]

I was on the fence for a while about it because i dont play austria or germany (boring countries)

[fair horizon]

Seperate armor template

[oak mantle]

Germany in vanilla sp is really boring

Way too easy

[fair horizon]

You dont have the manpower to spare attacking with infantry

[north merlin]

what should the template look like? cuz rn im already out of mp with 14 divisions and im not at war rn

[fair horizon]

Raise conscription

[surreal crag]

anyone got a good mountaineers div

[north merlin]

can't unless im at war

[fair horizon]

also it should have like half inf half tanks, at least thats what i use on australia

36w

[north merlin]

oh, ok

and what support comp?

[fair horizon]

Flame tanks, anti air

Hospital is good dont let anyone tell you otherwise

[north merlin]

okok

[fair horizon]

cant remember which engineers is good

You can switch the inf for mechanized later

[north merlin]

ok

but yeah rn ih ave no mp bc im not at war, i'll have to wait till 1939 fo rhtat

[fair horizon]

Iirc canada gets a decent amount of oil? If not the usa is right there

[north merlin]

what does oil have anything to dow ith mp? ;-;

[fair horizon]

For the tanks

No fuel = no stats

also you get a plane mio as canada use it

[north merlin]

oh, right, so no logistics company needed?

[whole matrix]

Those hoi4 mods updating so long

For latest version

[fair horizon]

I dont use them

Might be good i just dont

I usually take over enough oil countries to not care

[haughty sail]

Makes sense

[north merlin]

ok

[haughty sail]

Ill probs get NCNS then cuz I dont really play Germany, Hungary, or African nations in Hoi4

[north merlin]

so uhhm i joined the north american alliance so im not in the allies and i can't join britain because of that

so now im stuck with no mp and not in war

[unreal scarab]

what can i even do here

im genuinely so confused on how my garrisons dont have supplies

[silver dawn]

Quelle: U.S. Department of War (.gov) https://share.google/ltvRPelFOtFYVhWZr

so aliens are real.

https://tenor.com/view/phatearl-gif-2280842092719572077

[unreal scarab]

i wouldnt even really believe it

[silver dawn]

bro these are files

aboute aliens from pentagon

https://tenor.com/view/wazowski-mike-mike-sulivan-meme-monster-inc-gif-19634164

[haughty sail]

Gotter seems like an annoying dlc to learn how to properly raid

[sudden thistle]

No

It’s actually really simple

To raid

[haughty sail]

But ion wanna play Belgians or Germans

Or hungarians

The dilemna

[sudden thistle]

wtf does ion mean

[unreal scarab]

wheres albania

[sudden thistle]

Red country

To the right of Italy

Very small

[unreal scarab]

i think this should be easy

[split bane]

Should be, you got a focus to take them for free

[unreal scarab]

eeehhh...

[split bane]

Should still be around 200 ish days until that focus

[unreal scarab]

okay this should be in by like 210 days

yea

[iron otter]

does any one have any good idea for mods that add stuff to the game without replacing the game as a whole

[unreal scarab]

oohh they took my stuff

[iron otter]

trust ya got this 🙏

[unreal scarab]

bro i think its over

i just think its over

i never got this ar in my playthroughs

[iron otter]

nah trust you WILL win you will lose africa but trust ya will win in europe

[unreal scarab]

yoo i think its over

i genuinely dont think i have the technological advances 4 this shit

[wet flicker]

bro lost ethopita

ethiopia

[iron otter]

trust show a ss of the Europe front

[unreal scarab]

oohhh shittt

[unreal scarab]

yo i think its over

[tall mortar]

go left

[iron otter]

trust next time play as germany it will be easier cause no oversea territory

[unreal scarab]

ok

[unreal scarab]

idfk how to play germany

nor do i know how this game seriously works

[iron otter]

uhmm you will get the hang of it as you play more

[unreal scarab]

i just wanna play tfr 😢

but b4 i do that i need to secure a win

so i can learn game mechanics

[amber trail]

Hi

[iron otter]

uhm lwk whats tfr im lwk dumb

[iron otter]

hi

[amber trail]

How are you brother

[amber trail]

The fire rises

https://tenor.com/view/the-fire-rises-nato-european-union-gunther-fehlinger-gif-4113536271096919751

[iron otter]

im good how about you

[amber trail]

I am golden apple brother

[iron otter]

what🥀

[unreal scarab]

That mod was made specifically for chuds n conspiracy theorists and I love it

[amber trail]

Cognoscenti is really the only conspiracy theory path though

There needs to be more for me to be satisfied

We need a Russian and a Chinese Alex jones to clue us in on the theories

[lethal ether]

i was playing hoi4 and i got interrupted by the biggest spider ive ever seen in my life.. it tasted hairspray, deodorant, handcream, and vaccuum, never mess with a hoi4 player 😈

[haughty sail]

I dont wanna

I just learned the abbreviation

[amber trail]

It’s an atom or molecule that’s lost or gained electrons

It has a net electrical charge bc of that

[vivid juniper]

Best game yet

I got a new friend this game in the form of fascist Australia, who had a few puppets we decided to join me and now I have some super sexy faction borders

[unreal scarab]

wow

[shell sorrel]

tfw i'm the netherlands

[night lintel]

w poland

[vivid juniper]

Little luck and RNG goes along way

[unreal scarab]

\

sooo

what 2 do..

[lethal ether]

mils

day 1

[heavy vigil]

mils

[viscid mason]

hello casey

[iron otter]

your bit in the south america

[shell sorrel]

i realize this now

i kinda forgot it was there even though i've developed it

also lmao i was gonna try to align with germany this game but they're currently gettin rolled in 1940

[iron otter]

lwk trust do facist belgum

[shell sorrel]

i'm still fascist

[wet flicker]

democratic netherlands and form the european union after forming the benelux federation

[shell sorrel]

it's just that germany is gone in 1941 lmao

[wet flicker]

then go to war with the allies as democratic eu

[shell sorrel]

the allies don't really exist

the UK went fascist

france is in the comintern

[iron otter]

why is the spanish civil war still on 😭

[wet flicker]

aw wth

[shell sorrel]

ngl i just now noticed that

what in the hell

[iron otter]

most cursed europe

[shell sorrel]

it's ok i'll just team up with fascist mexico

and go full colonialism

nvm they already joined the axis, time to see if they count as a major

[iron otter]

its 1941 just do a new game😭

[shell sorrel]

nah man let me cook

[iron otter]

show me the faction map.

[iron otter]

gng your not conquring anybody

[shell sorrel]

😭

i know

belgium is still independent

[iron otter]

just do a new game as belgum ong

[wet flicker]

2nd world conquest as germany

my first one was on road to 56 without much dlc]

[shell sorrel]

maybe i'll go eat them then call it a day

[wet flicker]

now im doing vanilla all dlc

[shell sorrel]

i only got like 2hrs left before i gotta go to bed for work

[iron otter]

yeah might as well eat then go bed have a good sleep

[shell sorrel]

get home from a 10 hour shift to this 😭

[iron otter]

trust after work you got this you will be locked in ong🙏

[shell sorrel]

tbh i forgot i was on non-historical

whole goal was to try to be big netherlands and help germany sea lion

[iron otter]

non historical is funnier its just bad when you need a country to take the historical path for your plans

[shell sorrel]

well

germany went historical tbf

they just got stomped before 1941

[iron otter]

how weak were they

[shell sorrel]

they only got like half the anschluss off

they puppeted bohemia for some reason but annexed slovakia

poland went monarchist and allied with them i think but they got absolutely turbo steamrolled by the soviets

most countries seemed to go monarchist or communist in europe

[iron otter]

gl that sounds like the funniest game ever just to see all that happen

[shell sorrel]

the other fascist powers are mexico and chile lol

and then whatever the hell is happening in spain

w/e we make the most of these few hours and try to just get my industrial base and whatnot set up for a new game tomorrow

[iron otter]

lwk there needs to be a mod just to put iberia into the sea to let them do their own thing

[iron otter]

well i hope you do a good job at that

[shell sorrel]

I won't

I'm terrible at this game

🙂

i got an achievement on accident tho

[eternal aspen]

For my guards division (frontline defensive infantry) is line artillery worth it?

[iron otter]

well trust tommrow if ya want we can play together

[iron otter]

how do you even get that🥀

[shell sorrel]

i put a bunch of Johnsons on the market because i had a ton of surplus since most of my army was just from the east indies lmao

pretty sure spain bought in on multiple sides

[eternal aspen]

Market access with 2 sides of a civil war (german civil war for example)

[iron otter]

ohhhhhhh

[maiden bolt]

i Will make america more great again

[left skiff]

do you think they should change the navy mechanic, like the air mechanic?

ships only use manpower, if you place them, like planes.

So, they don´t eat manpower all the time and end with few thousands of ships.

[ivory hull]

the 10 people that play navy will have strong opinions about this

[scenic pulsar]

i have no idea what could have caused this

they still have the german focus tree

[daring nova]

Does anyone know a good way to understand the game? I'm new to strategy games and the tutorial doesnt help much

[shell sorrel]

youtube videos help

and just trial and error

[lethal ether]

ships that arent active still need maintenance done dont they?

[ivory hull]

i dont use navy

[junior jasper]

fr its so complicated it will prob takes a year to learn

[lethal ether]

also the sailors gotta be conscripted already cuz for all we know they might be on vacation by the time u decide to use ur navy

[junior jasper]

is there any noob friendly servers

[ivory hull]

ask in #1239926537512292362 ig

[daring nova]

Any recommendations on a video I should watch first?

[shell sorrel]

just who you find engaging tbh

and make sure it's a recent video

[iron otter]

gng aint you supposted to be in bed🙏

[shell sorrel]

i got like an hour or two

[iron otter]

oh

[tidal patrol]

I bought this game FOR navy…. 40 hours later I have no idea what’s going on and barely touched the navy, but I’ll be damned if little toy tanks and soldiers on the map don’t get all my love.

[ivory hull]

i have played this game for like 4 years no and have actually cared about a navy a handful of times

if you want to do navy

[shell sorrel]

i like navy stuff

[ivory hull]

then do it

[maiden bolt]

the navy mechanics seems really hella hella hella easy

but the old navy mechanics was better they shouldnt have changed the navy mechanics

[lucid walrus]

thoughts on this

[ivory hull]

no warsaw pact?

[iron otter]

poland should have kaliengrad

[restive sable]

poland actually should own the entire world

but that's a good start

[iron otter]

wait this is lwk TRUE

[lucid walrus]

how

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-love-poland-gif-10918710646251769391

[iron otter]

uhm idk trust

[iron otter]

https://tenor.com/view/gritito-gif-17274376822241272426

[wet flicker]

alt history

on historical

[iron otter]

gng what focus is this

[wet flicker]

popped up in my decisions tab

for my germany world conquest save

[fading pier]

whats SPAA/SPAT

[brittle cypress]

self propelled anti air
self propelled anti tank
i don't actually think that second one is a real thing

or i guess they are but usually called tank destroyers

[fading pier]

ty!

[karmic viper]

getting new dlcs feels like getting the infinity stones ngl

[scenic pulsar]

if anyone plays tfr does anyone know how to deal with the apla

istg they are the strongest for no reason

[silk fern]

who are you playing as?

[scenic pulsar]

and any nation in the world that even has a somewhat slightly leftist governmnet will send them volunteers

[scenic pulsar]

caligula

[silk fern]

are they the only faction left?

and how much of a gun deficit are you in

[scenic pulsar]

PF is still alive but i have some troops on their border

and no deficit

this is what america looks like rn

[silk fern]

how many divisions do you have in the west

[scenic pulsar]

8 nations giving them volunteers aswell btw

somewhere around 60?

i have 32 troops on pf

and i dont think the south is an issue

[silk fern]

get that number up, maybe just hold the line and deal with pf first

[scenic pulsar]

im genuienly thinking about pulling everyone back to the midwest so i actually have a fighting chance terrain wise

[scenic pulsar]

im gonna be fr i havent made a template yet ive been raising militias

i have no idea how to make a template

[silk fern]

in the civil war just pick one of the base templates and spam some out

[scenic pulsar]

alr ill pump out some random divs and get rid of pf and the confederates and see what i can do then

thank you family guy peter griffin

[narrow lotus]

hi

does anyone here play the great war redux and know meta templates for it im tryna play it for the first time

[fair horizon]

Same navy mechanics tbh

[granite crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1262333107034394697/1473852532060193027/togif-1.gif

[eternal aspen]

Man how tf do I suck so bad at hoi4?

Like every update I get worse on land, but better at navy

I can make the best fleet to beat the british by 1939 as germany, but I cant make an infantry division to hold for my life

[scenic pulsar]

istg apla is the best ragebait ever

[terse skiff]

what is your division?

[scenic pulsar]

someone the other day told me that the tfr devs have right wing biases but atp i genuinely think its the opposite

they somehow are able to produce tanks in their shitty ass position and get volunteers from every single country that just barely supports their ideals

and it especially doesnt help im playing caligula where im on a time limit to reunify but the apla is literally a fortress more secure than the white house

wait

i just found my solution

[turbid oriole]

I GOT BANNED FROM ROBLOX HOI4 NOOOOOOOOOOO

[fair horizon]

CHEATING

[fair horizon]

Me af

[astral sentinel]

mark my words i will only learn navy once i hit 3000 hours

[silk fern]

not nescessarily right wing bias, but the devs are mostly russian

[scenic pulsar]

i want you to fight the apla with their ten trillion tank volunteers fighting in the deserts of the west

[astral sentinel]

hi discord mod

[scenic pulsar]

are russians right wing?

[scenic pulsar]

hello

[silk fern]

yes, but overall they just give russian a bunch of buffs no matter what path

[fair horizon]

You fool you already know navy

[scenic pulsar]

funny you mention that because i got terminated by nato when i tried to play as the soviets

[astral sentinel]

i could have sworn i selected italy why am i france

[fair horizon]

Blud hit corsica instead of italy

[fickle thicket]

just tag over

[scenic pulsar]

also this exists in my game

[astral sentinel]

i am iron man

[fickle thicket]

then restart

[astral sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-stank-iron-man-gif-6197096

[astral sentinel]

ok buddy

[fickle thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-gif-22295199

[astral sentinel]

OK WHAT IS THIS

that is NOT italy

[scenic pulsar]

i think something glitched when belgium split

[scenic pulsar]

that happened to me when i tried to play germany but it put me as either france or italy

[astral sentinel]

central europe extreme bonzanza

[scenic pulsar]

whats a good beginner friendly mod

i dont think tfr is for me

[sudden thistle]

um

[fickle thicket]

rt56?

[sudden thistle]

should I be evil or legit

road to 56 though

good with no DLC

[fickle thicket]

even better with dlcs

has good ahistorical non dlc content

[sudden thistle]

i have all dlc and dont like it

nah

[scenic pulsar]

what makes rt56 so different from base game again?

[fickle thicket]

adds unique focus trees

[restive sable]

kaiserreich, kaiserredux or rt56

[sudden thistle]

it just adds a lot of basic stuff

but more

vanilla+

for no dlc

[restive sable]

i just kinda dont like the expanded tech tree honestly

i like how it is in vanilla

[sudden thistle]

but comes with its own shitty mechanics ofc

[scenic pulsar]

alr ill try it out later

ill do a germany gameplay

[fickle thicket]

some vanilla mechanics are incompatible/broken (ex: forming austria hungary and some historical states arent cores)

actual ass when i did a hungary run

[scenic pulsar]

yo wait i just realized

my game is actually so broken rn

the 1ew hasnt happened in 2025

[fickle thicket]

huh

[scenic pulsar]

and somehow italy just had a march on rome

[fickle thicket]

what mod u talkin aboot

[scenic pulsar]

tfr

[fickle thicket]

ai is finicky so events dont fire correctly or delayed

[eternal aspen]

It isnt that hard, just build what you think is important, most likely it'll work

[scenic pulsar]

invading centrist mexico and china sent 10 volunteers

[fickle thicket]

did they go nationalist path?

[scenic pulsar]

italy doesnt have a focus tree

[fickle thicket]

welp

event fired incorrectly

[scenic pulsar]

only skeleton content for the european wars

lemme send a sc what europe looks like

wait

not onlt has italy not gone fascist

genuienly wtf is this

[fickle thicket]

how tf is wallonia in control of germany

idk havent played tfr that much

[scenic pulsar]

istg i didnt enable any joke decisions

i just started the game normally

why does the national socialist order of italy exist and why are they in nato

[fickle thicket]

idk

what nation are u playing as

[scenic pulsar]

bidens caligula

[fickle thicket]

ah

yeah ai is ass this happens semi often

[scenic pulsar]

is that why china sent 10 volunteers to centrist mexico

[fickle thicket]

yes

[scenic pulsar]

so ig that means i can declare everything bad that happened to me in this save unfair and therefore invalid and give myself the win

[fickle thicket]

no

u get to finish ur focus tree

or fix the world

[scenic pulsar]

this one isnt happening

i autocompleted last focus and i declared war on the world

[fickle thicket]

.

well get to it

[scenic pulsar]

thank you annex all

[fickle thicket]

oh damn

i think the orange guys name has been added to automod

[scenic pulsar]

added to what

[fickle thicket]

automatic moderation

[restive sable]

i have so many questions that i dont think need to be answered

[fickle thicket]

when u say a blocked word it doesnt send it to the chat

[scenic pulsar]

i dont think you can say any political figures name

any current ones i think

roosevelt

stalin

[fickle thicket]

oh yah

[scenic pulsar]

hitler

[fickle thicket]

they REALLY dont like political figures being mentioned

[scenic pulsar]

you can say bidens caligula because that isnt in the banned words list

[restive sable]

reasonably so

[fickle thicket]

yup

especially nowadays

[scenic pulsar]

i think you should get away mentioning historical political figures beause thats what this entire game is about

[fickle thicket]

historical figures without their symbols is fine i think

after the war is when that crosses a line

[restive sable]

WW2 figures yes

early cold war maybe

anything crossing that isn't justifiable

many cold war presidents i can think of that were pretty controversial

[cobalt dawn]

Any tips as japan? Using grand battleplan (mobile infantry, mobile recon arty, none for tanks yet, rapid domination)

[scenic pulsar]

i think you should get away mentioning political figures as long as you arent endorsing a side or talking politically

[restive sable]

mentioning in a historical context or in a context that makes sense for the games time frame yes

but i dont feel it's a big deal, since this is a WW2 game

no real reason why conversations about cold war era politicians or modern day politicians need to be brought up in a game that takes place in the 1940s

[scenic pulsar]

like for example if im talking about tfr i should be able to say something like "it is easy to beat {2022 political candidate 1#}'s government playing as {2022 political candidate 2#}"

[fickle thicket]

its referencing a mod

its justified to an extent

[restive sable]

fair

[fickle thicket]

endorsement of any political movement/ideology is wrong especially as sensitive as the fascists and communists

[scenic pulsar]

yeah like i said you should be able to mention any political figure as long as it pertains to a certain mod and does not endorse said political figure

[fickle thicket]

it should be fine for that but mods will shoot anything down related to anyone modern even if its apart of a modern day mod

or a meme

such as the joever meme

and hell they would shut down this conversation because of what we talkin about

[terse skiff]

this is literally 1984

[scenic pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[restive sable]

i mean tbf with things like automod they dont really care what the context is

it's not a perfect system it's just to keep it at bay because talks about modern politics tend to be very heated

it's an understandable precaution on their part

[fickle thicket]

oh yeah but say gameplay for example and u playing modern day germany

we need to communicate what build ya doin but it isnt heated

what path u went down and what buffs u got because of it

and yes we might have to state political movements

but it isnt in the context of politics

automod is ass we know and can be circumnavigated and further action can be taken by a mod watching if needed

[fair horizon]

Italy but blue

[haughty sail]

Bought the big nations bundle

Also the expansion 2 bundle is not worth it

Unless u want thunder at the gates

Other than that it has meh dlcs

[cobalt dawn]

this aint the admirals i remember

[fair horizon]

What are you playing something that isnt japan or something?

[cobalt dawn]

what

nah its anime history mod

vanilla

[dusk knoll]

is there any mod that makes it so the ai doesnt waste all their generals by putting 40 generals on 4 divisions to defend

[oak mantle]

paradox finally doing something the community wants

[cobalt dawn]

true...

[haughty sail]

Who's excited for TaoG

Thunder at our Gates

[north merlin]

what recon should i use for armor division

[lapis snow]

LTs

[fair horizon]

Rangers because you went mobile warfare right?

[north merlin]

about th at....

[fair horizon]

V8 is supreme

[north merlin]

i dont' have the industry to produce lts...

[north merlin]

im doing grand battle plan cuz the game preselected i t for me

[lapis snow]

Then ranger recon

[fair horizon]

Dont listen to other people they'll lead you astray by saying it does stats or something but thats all a bunch of phooey

The only stat that matters is speed

https://tenor.com/view/caffeine-ren-me-when-the-zoomies-bunny-gif-22991327

[lapis snow]

Me when I overrun 40 german divisions

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-mad-max-fury-road-praise-cheer-celebrate-gif-10224262869702493445

I need a mad max ahistorical path for australia

[lapis snow]

Unironically would be a cool submod for OWB

[hard sky]

Hello

[fair horizon]

Yeah but i think australia just did that in the mad max universe

No like nuclear war or anything

[lapis snow]

It is kinda just what would happen if you gave Bogans a country

[north merlin]

which should i delete for flame thrower tank?

[tranquil void]

supplies or truck reco

[north merlin]

ok, reco isn't nessisary right?

[viscid mason]

Use tank recon

[north merlin]

i dont' have the industry to produce light tanks tho

[viscid mason]

Then replace the truck recon with the flame tank

[north merlin]

ok

[fair horizon]

Truck recon

Also for tank recon you dont need much

[north merlin]

wait i don't see the option for flame thrower even though i unlocked the special research for it

[fair horizon]

a factory mabye 2

Drag the window around

[north merlin]

wdym?

[lapis snow]

Need to design and produce it first

[fair horizon]

Light tank recon just needs like 15 light tanks

[north merlin]

also this is my flame tank is tthis good?

[north merlin]

yeah i figured out the issue, i didnt' label it as flame tank

[fair horizon]

i usually take my tank design and change the flamethrower

[north merlin]

my medium tank design too expensive

my weak canadian industry cannot support

[fair horizon]

You dont use many flame tanks

Mabye 15 per division

So one factory will do

[karmic viper]

do they do this every time

[misty fossil]

Aa

Use line aa instead

replace shovel with assault inf and truck recon with armoured recon (make light tanks with a lot of breakthrough)

[fair horizon]

Line aa as a country with zero manpower? Gross

Yes id like to take more casualties for zero reason

[hazy cobalt]

Guys my pfp is good or bad?

[haughty sail]

i saw that

[astral forum]

I saw that as well 😭

[haughty sail]

ur not allowed to have political figures as ur pfp

that did bad bad things

[astral forum]

Political, period I believe

[haughty sail]

the darkest hour movie gives me chills always

[dusk knoll]

playing finland rn in the axis on non historical on all adults serve 😭

[cobalt dawn]

that went smoothly

[haughty sail]

damn

[haughty sail]

gj

u playing china?

or another chinese nation

[hazy cobalt]

Painter was not bad

[haughty sail]

he was bad

plus im not discussing this

[cobalt dawn]

frick

it went too smoothly i forgot to create the wang jinwei regime 😭

[hazy cobalt]

I know what you are and i dont want debate on this

[haughty sail]

tf does that mean

[cobalt dawn]

oops

[haughty sail]

lol

[north merlin]

how do i fix this supply issue? i think that's the reason why even my armor division can't push shit

[haughty sail]

add supplies on one area and connect the railroads

the area thats orange

should fix it

[north merlin]

how? i can't build bc not in same faction

[haughty sail]

oh thought it was ur own land

ye u cant build supplies on any allies land

[north merlin]

so then what do i do...

[haughty sail]

probs nothing or just go back and resupply

[north merlin]

ok...

[haughty sail]

ye it can be real annoying sometimes. i think logistics division can help with maintaining supplies if im not mistaken

lemme ask @winged field

i havent messed with how supplies work in a hot sec

[winged field]

hmm?

[winged field]

this?

[haughty sail]

ye

my brain isnt functioning rn

lol

[winged field]

first thing he can do is upgrade railways to that 43/27 supply hub

second thing he can do is disable supplies for allies

[haughty sail]

its his allies land i think

so idk if he can build railroads

[winged field]

damm

he can build railroads afaik just cant do the 2nd step

[haughty sail]

ah

i normally dont mess with that stuff

[winged field]

Move some divisions from orleans to supply hubs that arent full

to like paris

[haughty sail]

@north merlin >

do hope's suggestion

[weak magnet]

i wonder if i can make a game like hoi4 but like openfrontio easiness

[winged field]

get this one asap and push through here

[haughty sail]

u wouldnt be able to use any paradox related coding

[haughty sail]

i just realized all my hours of hoi4 i never done marines

[winged field]

Marines are kinda niche.

Not as necessary

[haughty sail]

i been hooked on mobile art spam

lol

it works somewhat

[winged field]

River crossing from engineers is decent enough

[haughty sail]

i rarely used tanks unless its light tank spam

[winged field]

Mobile art as in motorized line artillery?

[haughty sail]

ye

[winged field]

Not optimal but ig it would work in sp

[haughty sail]

it works somewhat till mid game then u have to be more strategic

alot of microing too

plus i spam subs so i dont need to worry about naval invasions

im about to get NCNS dlc

[winged field]

Problem with line arty is just that it makes a lot of stats worse for soft 40-50 soft attack

and that it has 3 combat width

[haughty sail]

ye

[winged field]

like hp and org is just out of the window

[autumn basin]

anyone

want to do a coop capmaign

[haughty sail]

pretty sure u use #historical-multiplayer for mp

[autumn basin]

mb

[haughty sail]

im not for sure tho im an SP player

[haughty sail]

ye it sucks but its fun

[rich gulch]

is trotsky ussr better or stalin

and how do i defend against germany as ussr

im trying to find my favorite major

[dusk knoll]

bro genuinely wtf are you supposed to do about manpower with finland

[rough gorge]

Im hoiing my 4

[dusk knoll]

like im on brutal oppression why does sweden still get like .5 a day

[haughty sail]

if u have focuses for manpower use them, add advisors if they have manpower perks, and change ur policy to limited conscription

and start capitulating countries

[dusk knoll]

i did and i was on sweeping the barrel

[haughty sail]

so u gain manpower

[haughty sail]

sweeping the barrel should only be used if u are in multiple wars and losing massively or if ur on ur last legs

[dusk knoll]

yea i was

i was losing a ton of equipment and manpower to garrisons

and idk what to do about it

[haughty sail]

show me ur screen

like screenshot

[dusk knoll]

for what

like what part of it

[haughty sail]

who u r at war with and progress

like the map

[haughty sail]

damn fighting so many allies

first thing is to try to capitulate britain first if u can. basically u can invade the east coast

since ur not fighting ussr ur good unless u r

[dusk knoll]

what am i meant to do about the garrisions

[haughty sail]

how many divisions u got rn

and how much breakthrough percentage u got

[dusk knoll]

wdym

[haughty sail]

garrisons are pretty simple to fight if u have more soft attack and breakthrough

[grand forge]

what are some mods to make the game more realistic without making it complex or an absolute overhaul. This includes map mods.

[haughty sail]

its best to ask in #modding

[grand forge]

ok ty

[grand forge]

That # is to ask about making mods but i try

[haughty sail]

Oh I thought it was meant to ask what mods are good

[wraith mauve]

Any underrated paths In popular Mods

[grand forge]

which mods?

[rich gulch]

how should i play trotsky ussr?

[upbeat tundra]

how on earth do u get the kaiser on rt56 germany

whatever i do it doesnt let me/is impossible

[tidal patrol]

Best destroyer build for escorting carrier strike groups?

Very confusing. Some people say all anti subs, others say they suck at anti subs. Just saw a video and it seems like AA won’t matter b/c planes attack big ships? Lol whuuuuut?

[upbeat tundra]

yo...

[winter fulcrum]

anyone know a good a fun path for minor or major countries that go fascist? (other than italy or anything that intereferes with hist germany im trying to teach my friend the game tmr and he wants to play germany)

[haughty sail]

Destroyers: you want good air defense, good anti sub counter measures, good guns, and be fast on the water

U want an all rounder destroyer

[rich gulch]

can i get a strong country (preferably a major) for 4-5 ppl multiplayer?

[haughty sail]

Strong country with alot of focuses. Great Britain

[rich gulch]

im an idiot on navy

[haughty sail]

If u dont want good navy strong country I recommend Chile, Brazil, or Portugal

Unique playstyle

[rich gulch]

portugal?

[haughty sail]

My brain is tired

Not Portugal

[rich gulch]

what about germany or ussr

[haughty sail]

Spain

[haughty sail]

Germany is braindead click and ussr is meh to me

[winter fulcrum]

Germany, usa, britain.

[tidal patrol]

Thank you. Sonar or fire control?

and torpedos?

[rich gulch]

i was thinking of doing trotsky ussr

[haughty sail]

If ur countering subs Ig sonar

Or maybe fire control idk

Torpedoes is good

As well

U basically want two designs. One all rounder and one for soley anti sub

[rich gulch]

@haughty sail what do u think about trotsky ussr

i cant find any tutorials about it online

[haughty sail]

I never played ussr all the way cuz never enjoyed it

[rich gulch]

why\

[haughty sail]

I just dont

[rich gulch]

then whats a good major

uk usa japan italy alr has navy

and idk how to get naval dominance

i patrol there and dont get shit

[misty fossil]

oof

[upbeat tundra]

france never garrisons

realistic german hegemony

[fair horizon]

that map is so clean i love it

[sly venture]

the new dlc ruined my Roman Empire by 1937 strat 😭😭😭

[cursive oxide]

Roman Empire by 1937 how ?

[low dock]

Unhistrocal is so op

[cursive oxide]

yep

[sly venture]

you para drop France para drop the uk then declare war on everyone so they join the allies then cap em

[low dock]

Paradrop into france

Paradrop into uk

Kill uk

Ally moscow

Ally tokyo

Kill america

[sly venture]

but now chechslovakia guarantees everyone and they are a major so you have to invite Germany in the deal so yea it ruins everything

[low dock]

Should I spare china or annex them?

[sly venture]

what country ?

[low dock]

China

[cursive oxide]

With or without the dlc ?

[sly venture]

idk I have the dlc

[cursive oxide]

Then disable it

[sly venture]

you can try it without

i think it also is without the dlc

but idk

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gasp-french-le-gasp-ungo-xavi-gif-13979984782769537728

[cursive oxide]

Did the change it only in the dlc?

My 1936 Austria-Hungary still Works

Do try it in a mp game ?

[celest dirge]

Is there any way to make AI japan win over China?

[grand hedge]

Fourth Supreme Army Command with the Oster conspiracy ???

[grand hedge]

yes

[cursive oxide]

yes in the custom game rules

[grand hedge]

In my game, all non-historical, Japan wins.

[celest dirge]

How?

[grand hedge]

with the new DLC

[cursive oxide]

how ? thas the czeh dlc

[grand hedge]

no

[celest dirge]

I mean how to set up a win for Japan? Do I need to buff them?

[grand hedge]

the Japanese DLC

[cursive oxide]

the jap dlc is not the new one

[grand hedge]

no currently, in my game, there are 600 divisions.

[grand hedge]

nevermind

[grand hedge]

However, no more navy

[haughty sail]

Is GoE still buggy as it was on launch

[celest dirge]

????

[grand hedge]

the usa

[haughty sail]

That Czech dlc was the worst possible thing they could've made

[grand hedge]

The US exterminated the Japanese fleet

[haughty sail]

It was an unnecessary and unneeded dlc that shouldn't been decided on. Provides nothing to the game

[celest dirge]

So, what path did Japan or china went so that japan can win in China?

[grand hedge]

historical

[celest dirge]

How? that is the way they lose

[haughty sail]

They could've made a dlc for Mexico, US, and Canada together, Malaya, Burma, and French indochina together, New Zealand dlc, uh Ireland dlc

Etc

Yet chose the modders Czech dlc

[grand hedge]

Yes, in real life, but not in HoI4.

[grizzled yarrow]

wawa

[lapis snow]

are you just being bad faith or are you actually dumb as a bag of hammers?

[haughty sail]

Im not bad faith. Czech focuses were not needed

The dlc provides nothing

[grand hedge]

both I think

[haughty sail]

Its literally 1 nation dlc that adds absolutely jack

[grand hedge]

Yes, but it's not expensive.

[haughty sail]

5.99 ye no im good

[lapis snow]

you're just choosing not to understand the development cycle and rationale they have for what they develop and when. They've talked about it plenty of times in the dev blogs. They work on countries with no content and oldest content first. Czechia was one such country and they had the opportunity to outsource the work while the main team develops Thunder at our Gates. Whatever is after that will almost certainly target the US and others since MtG was integrated

it's not difficult to understand

[haughty sail]

Idrc

[grand hedge]

It's true that he could have made a DLC about Central Europe

[lapis snow]

you do, you complained about it

[haughty sail]

It added nothing of value

[lapis snow]

so don't buy it

what is the problem

it cost the devs no time as it was outsourced

[cursive oxide]

can you stil do the 1936 austia-hungery expolit with the dlc ?

[haughty sail]

Much rather have an Ireland dlc

[lapis snow]

please be trolling

[grand hedge]

no

[lapis snow]

focus 35 days - send condolences for hitlers death

[heavy vigil]

road to 67

[haughty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[grand hedge]

yes

[haughty sail]

No. Ireland has a generic focus tree

[cursive oxide]

dam it

[vital cove]

which one

[lapis snow]

yes, which is already more than it should have

[cursive oxide]

?

[haughty sail]

Ireland supremacy

[heavy vigil]

ireland focus tree dlc where it gets a larger focus tree than germany

🙏

[grand hedge]

ou are just Ireland

[heavy vigil]

for 5 dollar

[grand hedge]

what ?!

[sly venture]

what if italy was competent

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/67-edit-fast-meme-gif-618364562054521562

[lapis snow]

Ireland deserves a focus tree less than Albania and Luxembourg. They should give a tree to almost everyone before they give one to Ireland

[misty fossil]

i hate architecture

[grand hedge]

the name???

[haughty sail]

Albania nah. Nobody really plays them

[misty fossil]

Hymn of the Clover

[heavy vigil]

@marsh ravine

[marsh ravine]

this is why you are sad

albania best

[cursive oxide]

[haughty sail]

Why u gotta summon him

[cursive oxide]

Peak chat

[heavy vigil]

can you add albania focus to mod

[grand hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bayrou-balek-jacket-yolo-throw-gif-17728478

[haughty sail]

Give Malaya a focus tree so i dont have to play for 9 hours straight to get out of the puppet

[heavy vigil]

civil war

[grand hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/salazar-antonio-oliveira-salazar-estado-novo-discurso-speech-gif-2703662575719591331

[haughty sail]

Have British attack me no

[heavy vigil]

no

[haughty sail]

I dont wanna be invaded by a gazillion British people

[heavy vigil]

only 50+ tension

unless you decide to declare on them

[celest dirge]

I mean it is the chance roll? I haven't seen japan win once

[cursive oxide]

What if the made a dlc smal but power full and just add stuff to Luxemburg etc

[grand hedge]

me all the time

[heavy vigil]

dont be so tense, mr kaiser! your reign is over, after all.

[grand hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-emoji-funny-gif-25240293

[haughty sail]

Alt f4 + water on everything

[grand hedge]

Do you know how to speak French?

[grand hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ih-homme-surpris-surprise-surprised-gif-5625283379262371536

[sly venture]

prince of terror + anti partisian is broken

[haughty sail]

It works to win hoi4 trust

[grand hedge]

no

[haughty sail]

Just spread dorito fingers on the keyboard

Instant win

[heavy vigil]

unfortunately no

[marsh ravine]

losnume

[cursive oxide]

is greec beter when hist is of ?

[random sinew]

yo howd yall research spg?

like which thing do i put on the tank to produce it

[marsh ravine]

do u have nsb dlc

[random sinew]

yea

[marsh ravine]

a howitzer

[random sinew]

wheres taht research

[marsh ravine]

artillery

[heavy vigil]

or csg

[marsh ravine]

thats small howitzer in hoi4 terms

[random sinew]

oh

so middle parth artillery

[marsh ravine]

yes

[random sinew]

do you make spg's with medium or heavys ngl

[marsh ravine]

medium or light

ur choice

[random sinew]

kk

thx

[marsh ravine]

np

tf does that mean

[cursive oxide]

oke if you byzentium as greec do have hist on or fo ?

[grand hedge]

no

[heavy vigil]

your choice

[sly venture]

what is austria doing bro

[cursive oxide]

my prop is romenia guretanying turkey

[heavy vigil]

romania isnt relevant

[cursive oxide]

the ar

the call in the axis in 1940

[heavy vigil]

no, go to war with them

kill bulgaria with focus too

1940 is late

[cursive oxide]

what focus ?

thers non for that

only on the comie path

@heavy vigil

[sly venture]

italy could have just done this

[grand hedge]

is this normal?

[heavy vigil]

theres a focus somewhere but i forgot where

[cursive oxide]

yes in the comie path

[celest dirge]

Which year is it?

[heavy vigil]

no

like for byzantine

[grand hedge]

japan

[heavy vigil]

i just forgot where it is because i havent played hoi in weeks

[celest dirge]

Late game? If they survive that is normal.

[grand hedge]

Is this a good division?

[grand hedge]

ok

[heavy vigil]

in ww1 yes

[grand hedge]

.-.

[celest dirge]

How the hell you manage to squeeze that many troop into 37.5 width?

[grand hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-nickelodeon-shrug-spongebob-squarepants-nothing-gif-5752969

[celest dirge]

The problem how they manage to win China at all.

[grand hedge]

in a non-historical context with a historical Japan

[sly venture]

LMAO WHAT IS THIS

[celest dirge]

What path did china follow?

[grand hedge]

historical

[heavy vigil]

tbf i wish i had these for the sino-japanese war

[limpid field]

ethiopia keeps becoming independent every time after i annex them

[heavy vigil]

but theyre not great after 1939 gun

[heavy vigil]

you allowed them the land

[celest dirge]

??? That almost impossible

[heavy vigil]

it will automatically give them the land

regardless of how many times you try

[limpid field]

yeah but i annexed them 3 times already

[sly venture]

ON EVERYTHING THIS GAVE YOU BREAKTHOUGH

[grand hedge]

Otto Strasser !!!!

[heavy vigil]

try releasing eritrea/puppeting eritrea, annex eritrea and you should be able to get archievement for a tick maybe

for world conquests

[cursive oxide]

@heavy vigil can you vc ?

[grand hedge]

!!

[heavy vigil]

i dont think i can give good hoi advice rn due to not having played for a bit

besides like, general memory/knowledge things

[tulip thorn]

What kind of help do you need?

[cursive oxide]

this

[sly venture]

is this good for 1940

am also adding a field hospital

[haughty sail]

What is "this

[haughty sail]

Org be so bad

[tulip thorn]

add 2 more mech, and then 2 more spgs

[haughty sail]

Also holy bad reliability

[grave sonnet]

Org doesn't matter

[sly venture]

done

[tulip thorn]

reliability is a fake stat

Doesnt matter

[grave sonnet]

Same with reliability

[tulip thorn]

Org that low for a attacking unit is fine

[cursive oxide]

greec vs turkey

[haughty sail]

This like saying "reliability ain't real"

[sly venture]

what does reliability even do if its at 0 does the tank just implode

[tulip thorn]

In hoi4 its not

[grave sonnet]

It's so worthless it doesn't even exist

[haughty sail]

Bullets aren't real chat

[tulip thorn]

In hoi4

reliability is pointless

[grave sonnet]

Reliability wont matter if you make 5181518 of them a day

[haughty sail]

Germany ain't real

[grave sonnet]

And you don't push into mountains that have rivers

[haughty sail]

Questioning why it's this specific number

[grave sonnet]

Because I had to spam something out quickly as an example

[tulip thorn]

Low reliability will only hurt if you want to fight in super low supply areas, but if you are doing that you be doing other things wrong lmao

[haughty sail]

Nah u just enjoy 5181518

[grave sonnet]

True

[haughty sail]

Don't lie to me

[grave sonnet]

Maybe

But yeah no stat matters more than soft attack in sp

[haughty sail]

Hard attack the most useless stat imo

[tulip thorn]

In sp sure

[grave sonnet]

In sp yes

In mp

No

[haughty sail]

I only play SP

I refuse to be exploited by Germany mains

[rich gulch]

whats this

whys it red

[grand hedge]

How do I annex all my vassals?

[haughty sail]

Why it be red

Tf u do

[blazing river]

need to be repaired

[tulip thorn]

The factory is damaged

[haughty sail]

Forgot repairing exists now

[grand hedge]

????

[rich gulch]

i moved the factory to the urals

[tulip thorn]

Just wait for it to be repaired

[haughty sail]

Question is why so many

[blazing river]

you might have to reconstruct them

[tulip thorn]

you have free repair for a reason

[haughty sail]

@cursive oxide why u so lonely in vc lol

[grand hedge]

How do I annex all my vassals?

[grave sonnet]

If you have allat of convoys you can give it to them and lower their autonomy

And using pp

You can lower

And eventually

Annex

Or you can build in them

And use the infinite focus thing

[grand hedge]

ok merci

[grave sonnet]

To lower autonomy

Np

[haughty sail]

Just play Malaya for 9 hours straight

I regret it everyday

[grave sonnet]

[haughty sail]

Like literally I had to console command to get out of puppetry

Cuz u only gain a little for the whatever focus

The generic one

[grave sonnet]

Free egypt all over again 💔

You could make convoys

And just

[haughty sail]

No

[grave sonnet]

Give it to the UK

[haughty sail]

I dont

Want

To

[grave sonnet]

Alr

[haughty sail]

I want to play monarchy

[grand hedge]

How to gain more political influence?

[grave sonnet]

You can get a buff to pp

From

Certain

Leaders

Focuses

And advisors

And you can not pick a focus

To gain

2

Everyday

If you don't have any pp debuffs

[grand hedge]

ok

[haughty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/glen-powell-tyler-twisters-cowboy-howdy-gif-16429390260873303211

[sly venture]

I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT MY 3 PANZER DESTROY THE SOVIET LINES

[grave sonnet]

What year is it?

[sly venture]

1941

[grave sonnet]

Ic

[pine shale]

Can anyone recommend some videos for noobs so you can see how to play well?

[haughty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lone-ranger-hi-yo-silver-hi-ho-silver-horse-rearing-gif-13879261716339155132

me when doing mongolia

[grave sonnet]

Tutorial for a specific country or

[haughty sail]

is GoE still buggy as a dlc

[grave sonnet]

Ion even have it bro

[haughty sail]

damn

smh

[grave sonnet]

I'll probably buy it when I try and do an ottoman run

[haughty sail]

what about trial of allegiance

[grave sonnet]

It was fun when I played it did a couple of achievements

[haughty sail]

read massive negative reviews

[grave sonnet]

But depends