hoi4-general

[mental mantle]

Hover over the bars, they give you info
It’s best to deploy them when fullly trained but at least at 80% if you need

[near mortar]

You click ONCE on the "train" in the template, then you "add units" from the different tab

[mental mantle]

Also you can produce equipment in the cog tab ⚙️

And research technology in the flask tab

[calm steppe]

How do i know if im training or not?

[mental mantle]

Hover over the icon that’s below the “division” button
Aka the one that has a clover 🍀next to it

[calm steppe]

Ok did that

[mental mantle]

It would say something like “training ends [insert date]”

[calm steppe]

So do i speed up to that?

[sharp ginkgo]

possibly the most non-historical game ive ever played

[mental mantle]

You can’t really speed it up

It can slow down if the equipment isn’t met though

[calm steppe]

Huh

[mental mantle]

Are you asking if you can speed up the training?

[calm steppe]

How much time did it take you guys to learn this??

[cedar lance]

godamn

it

my game still crashes

even when using dlcs

[mental mantle]

Well I have 744 hours on the game, and I’m still learning some new features. I really play mods for a good part of that time, and sometimes vanilla

Watch some youtube tutorials
And play the game, don’t worry about failing it’s how you’ll learn

If you constantly play vanilla, you’ll probably be good around 100-200 hours

[ivory hull]

after the first 500 you will have a at least a basic understanding of the important mechanics and features

[calm steppe]

500 WHAT? HOURS?!???

[cedar lance]

im PISSED OFF

i still cant play hoi4

[ivory hull]

game is addicting so its fine

[calm steppe]

Ok, whats the FIRST thing i should do to build a solid army and go to war with poland. Dont even know how to do that 🌋

Like a kickstarter

[ivory hull]

watch a tutorial

[calm steppe]

I did, i’ll watch more

[ivory hull]

get an understanding of the most basic things

[acoustic bronze]

U have all dlc's?

[mental mantle]

Idk about that, seems too high, I played vanilla for around 120 hours and it’s pretty easy, especially against the AI

[calm steppe]

No i bought the standard edition on steam yesterday

[mental mantle]

Are you looking to get achievements or you don’t mind about them?

[ivory hull]

at 500 hours youll understand almost everything on a basic level tho

[calm steppe]

I jist want to play man 🙏

[acoustic bronze]

1. Pause the game immediately

2. Put ALL factories on these:

   • Infantry Equipment
   • Support Equipment
   • Artillery
   • Trucks (small amount)

3. Do NOT build tanks yet

4. Build:

   • Civilian Factories until 1937
   • Then Military Factories

5. Research:

   • Basic Machine Tools
   • Construction I
   • Electronic Mechanical Engineering
   • Infantry Equipment upgrades

6. Train only Infantry divisions early game

7. Use a simple division template:

   • 9 Infantry Battalions
   • Support Artillery
   • Engineers

8. Do NOT attack anyone early

9. Take focuses:

   • Rhineland
   • Four Year Plan
   • Autarky
   • Hermann Göring Werke
   • KdF-Wagen
   • Army Innovations

10. Improve relations with Italy if wanted

11. Keep army training for Army XP

12. Put generals on armies immediately

13. Learn frontline + offensive line battleplans

14. Build an air force:

• Mostly Fighters
• Some CAS

15. Before Poland:

• Have ~60–80 infantry divisions
• Full equipment
• Air superiority

16. Around 1939:

• Demand Danzig
• Prepare war with Poland

17. Attack Poland from:

• Germany
• East Prussia (top side)

18. Use:

• Aggressive battleplan
• CAS support
• Fast encirclements

19. Ignore navy early game
20. After Poland:

• Prepare for France
• Defend western border if Allies join war

[mental mantle]

Get road to 54

[ivory hull]

building civs on germany

[mental mantle]

Alr bro cmon

[ivory hull]

hell no

[mental mantle]

I heard it’s useful late game and mils are useful early game

[ivory hull]

that guide isnt even good 😭

[acoustic bronze]

i know

[ivory hull]

on germany you spam mils

[acoustic bronze]

just chatgpt LOL

[ivory hull]

dont ask ai bro

[mental mantle]

ChatGPT downgraded heavily

[strange sun]

4 year plan for beginners isn't recommended

[ivory hull]

its a bad guide in general

[whole matrix]

Finally good Turkish politic

[silver dawn]

and they thought they chould defend africa from me

[ivory hull]

light tanks and motorized?

[silver dawn]

ye

[strange sun]

What year

[silver dawn]

1943 i had it before but they somehow killed all my troops when i didnt look

so send my elite tank armys

[ivory hull]

"elite"

[serene breach]

playing as soviets isn't that hard

[ivory hull]

you meant horrible tank armies

[silver dawn]

i fixed them mate

[ivory hull]

template?

design?

[silver dawn]

i changed a lot of light tanks to medium and put more into orginizing thats why they should break through lines with very little supplies

[ivory hull]

so whats the template of the division?

[silver dawn]

i cant show since i will play repo with friends now

[solid harness]

i need some help with the sun will never set acheavement im playing japan i did the focus but it says to controll all core states i island hopped around but i cant find any core state i have left to control can some one help me with this

[silver dawn]

i will show later

since i play hoi4 later again

[calm steppe]

Holy shit im hooked

This game is addictive af

[weak wing]

Is anyone in game right now? Is this still possible? Mine doesnt open any external links https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1mlcujx

Yeah nevermind got it

[lethal ether]

whats theoretically the highest number of factories you can have as germany in 1939?

[ivory hull]

no idea

spam mils day one tho

its meta

[lethal ether]

i think the most ive gotten was like 275

i never paid any attention to it

i just built stuff

[ivory hull]

only build mils and some refinieres

[daring totem]

It appears everytimei open the game

[ivory hull]

theres literally a direct button for yt in the main menu

[lethal ether]

looks like this lol

[ivory hull]

hessen and westfalen give you +15% construction speed btw

[weak wing]

It doesn't let me click

[lethal ether]

i know

dam modifier

hessen, westfallen and rhineland if you built the rur dam

[weak wing]

I found a workaround through Mediawiki site

[ivory hull]

works fine for me

[weak wing]

Of the forum? or the wiki

[ivory hull]

for youtube

[weak wing]

See it now

thanks

[dense monolith]

Is someone hosting a Hoi4 game today?

[weak magnet]

Honestly

I am not saying its good

But for an AI it nailed it other than the meta things

Dont forget everyone here is a metagamer with a little rod on their chair

Dont ask me where that rod goes

[ivory hull]

ok bro

a guide being bad

is a guide being bad

[weak magnet]

no im not saying that

im just saying that for what I would assume an AI knows about a game it didnt hallucinate

[sharp grotto]

what does organisation mean in HOI4

[proud tapir]

how long your divisions can fight/stay in battle

you run out of org, you retreat

[sinful tulip]

hosting a server!!!
join: 90285499391426575

[sharp grotto]

oh, then org is extremly good, then?

[sinful tulip]

what is org?

[sharp grotto]

organisation

[sinful tulip]

oh thanks

[sinful tulip]

holy tanks

[fading pier]

36 width or 32 width for tanks

[uncut scroll]

think you need more tanks

[misty fossil]

i guess

[ivory hull]

tf is a modern heavy td?

[ivory hull]

36

[misty fossil]

modern heavy td

[fading pier]

ty!!!!!

[ivory hull]

what mod, also sheeps ai?

[misty fossil]

nah just vanilla

[ivory hull]

then why tds

[sly venture]

do i get balatro or graveyard of empires

[misty fossil]

heavy spg is 2cw

[ivory hull]

1w

[ivory hull]

balatro?

[sly venture]

idk what the name is its on sale on steam

[tulip thorn]

Get balatro

[sly venture]

i was playing it last year before the exams to get a dopamine rush

[ivory hull]

whats the content?

[sly venture]

its a card game if i remember correctly

[shell sorrel]

Bro doesn’t even name his tanks 💔

[sly venture]

and make combos to get a bigger number

[ivory hull]

bro what

[shell sorrel]

What nations interest you in GoE that you’d actually spend time playing

[shell sorrel]

It’s a roguelike

[sly venture]

what

[shell sorrel]

As in would you actually utilize the content

Like what’s th main motivator for you to pick it up

[sly venture]

what is GoE

[cursive flint]

finished it

[shell sorrel]

Graveyard of Empires?

[sly venture]

iran and the raj

mostly iran tho

[shell sorrel]

Then I’d say get it if it’s on sale

But idk if the paradox sale is still going

[sly venture]

its on sale rn

[shell sorrel]

I just use the subscription 🤷‍♂️

[ivory hull]

what was the other dlc?

oh wait

[sly venture]

graveyard of empires

[ivory hull]

nah mb

[terse skiff]

Is that a heavy or modern chassis?

[misty fossil]

heavy

[ivory hull]

both

[terse skiff]

You should say yes

[fallen hearth]

💔

[sly venture]

w account

[ivory hull]

still less soft than this btw

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-finding-gem-gem-alert-jasswa-looking-for-gem-gif-4573895384736430461

[ivory hull]

just a bit less breakthrough

[ivory hull]

how about i say its mid?

[sly venture]

no

[pliant dune]

What even are those tanks and supports

[zenith charm]

gem template

nobody needs trucks when you got horses

[wide osprey]

how do you produce horses

[ivory hull]

spg tanks

[pliant dune]

How do you get jewish state

[pliant dune]

Okay

[pliant dune]

Breeding

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-reinstated-privileges-gif-17839360940585930287

[wide osprey]

😚 😏

[sudden thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[wide osprey]

who yo so big 😮

[pliant dune]

smirks

[sudden thistle]

What happened to Norway

They got smoothed

[pliant dune]

Yeah bro i didnt draw that map

😭

[ripe slate]

@pliant dune Please no modern politician memes

[ripe slate]

Road to 56

[pliant dune]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[pliant dune]

Okay thank you

[shell sorrel]

Play Ironman

[sly venture]

no i have bad memories

[loud shuttle]

since its may 8th decided to do a soviet game

[zenith charm]

you should have done it on may 9th

as it was 1am moscow time when germany surrendered

[loud shuttle]

yes, but my country celebrates it today

[misty fossil]

gem alert

[pliant dune]

Which dlc to buy if i have battle of bosphorus and la resistance alr

[last geyser]

anyone got medium tank template

[loud shuttle]

by blood alone and no step back i think its called

the italy and soviet one

[pliant dune]

Okay

[loud shuttle]

where have i seen you before

[pliant dune]

We have 9 mutual friends

ravenia?

Idk

[loud shuttle]

Pixel Slovakia perchance?

[pliant dune]

Maybe i used to play for them

[loud shuttle]

then probably that

[noble garden]

Yall is my Comintern strong enough?

[pliant dune]

Nah youre cooked

[noble garden]

Because I have France in or

[pliant dune]

Not enough divisions bro

[noble garden]

Oh lol I'm training a whole new army dw

I have 120 div's cued

[pliant dune]

Okay

[noble garden]

I focused on the industrial instead of political this run

[shell sorrel]

How’s the infantry equipment looking bud

[noble garden]

+73.4k

I went form 120K to 73.4K

[unreal scarab]

i just be doing bullshit in this game i have no idea what im doing

[shell sorrel]

What the helly

[shell sorrel]

Same and I’m encroaching on 300hrs

[noble garden]

Dunno I have industry

[shell sorrel]

Spend 6 years building a navy, join the war, get insta wiped

😌

[unreal scarab]

everytime i play italy i keep getting shitted on by ethiopia and i genuinely have no idea what to do

[ivory hull]

why does night attack give you +50%?

[wide osprey]

people say ai is weak and this game suck
and then attacking with this 🥀

[misty fossil]

mods

[unreal scarab]

its stagnant progress every time

[shell sorrel]

Send the rest of your army

[unreal scarab]

wheres dat

[noble garden]

Anyway I got 30 Germans encircled

[shell sorrel]

In Italy lmao

[unreal scarab]

ohhh

yea i did that n its

still stagnant i just suck at war

[sudden thistle]

Beat this

[shell sorrel]

You’re probably out of supply

Build trucks and make sure you set the armies to be supplied via truck rather than horse

[unreal scarab]

ohhh

[ivory hull]

wrong ss bro

[unreal scarab]

thanks

[shell sorrel]

You can do a focus to get some free infrastructure there to support the war too

[ivory hull]

wait a second

[misty fossil]

average italy

[shell sorrel]

Ideally though you wanna take Ethiopia fast because otherwise you can get bogged down hard

[sudden thistle]

No it’s the right one

It’s esports

Very much esports

[ivory hull]

437 reserves

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[shell sorrel]

Also you’re using your planes right?

[unreal scarab]

yea?

[shell sorrel]

Setting to CAS, making sure efficiency is up

[unreal scarab]

this gamme looks like blender with how complex it is

[ivory hull]

w cheats

[shell sorrel]

I have 300 hours and I suck

[sudden thistle]

No cheats at all wdym!!

[unreal scarab]

yahh...

[unreal scarab]

generally how many civ factories do u wanna build when u start out

[shell sorrel]

As a lot of nations I see people say build them until 1938

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-factories-civfactories-hoi4-civ-factories-civ-factories-gif-9813255648150506206

[unreal scarab]

well okay

[shell sorrel]

But idk for sure

[unreal scarab]

hmm

[unreal scarab]

so

[shell sorrel]

So

[unreal scarab]

trucks like this?

[silver dawn]

here i made it in english for ya

[ivory hull]

im german so it woudlve been fine

[silver dawn]

oh ok

[ivory hull]

do you have the nsb dlc?

[silver dawn]

i have every dlc

[ivory hull]

this with mech is a lot better

[silver dawn]

ok

[unreal scarab]

jesus

[silver dawn]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4YUUf_VGcjQ?is=l95Pd7FpW3dR8eoc

[acoustic wasp]

@ivory hull SF was the default i didnt change it

[strange sun]

It's easier than most paradox games imo

[unreal scarab]

its flashiness makes it look gobsmacking to deal with

[umbral agate]

is standardised production or tank referbishment plant better

for germany

[sudden thistle]

Less commie = good

https://tenor.com/view/happy-catto-cats-gif-2693509101423175460

[misty fossil]

thats what she said

[grand forge]

whats the best infantry division for offense in barbarrosa as germany

template i use now is:
12 inf, 3 artillery,
support companies:
AA,
AT,
Artillery,
Logistics,
Maintanace

should i add mech

[viscid mason]

I like to use 18-19 infantry battalions and build many fighter planes and CAS

[acoustic wasp]

so uhhh japan got absolutely destroyed in china and i havent even fired 1 bullet at anyone yet, will they ever declare war on me?

[fallen hearth]

uhmmm

[acoustic wasp]

i've been playing economy simulator for 5 years now

barbarossa started and still no action

[wide osprey]

hoi4 realism at its peak

[wide osprey]

stop beating a child

[winged field]

is USSR using fart guns against you?

[hallow thistle]

Yo what's your favorite modern hoi4 mod?

[acoustic wasp]

???????????????????????????????????????????????

Show the templates lmao

what year is this

lore accurate sherman production

japan please attack me lets get it over with i need a d day

[ivory hull]

not great, individual excellence (for hp), self propelled support, the one that gives flat 10% soft, grand assault should be the doctrines

[ivory hull]

replace the shh for logistics company

and add mech

instead of cav

[unkempt sun]

vruh

[unreal scarab]

so i should put more mili factories on trucks?

also how do u set armies to be supplied by truck?

[ivory hull]

what about it?

[fading elk]

So I’ve always wondered how do you pull off the first Ljubljana award as Germany

In my games when I attempt it they always decline

[ivory hull]

yea they will usually

[fading elk]

Must you do it before other things to not raise wt too high?

[ivory hull]

focus is a waste tho

[acoustic wasp]

Japan done

[fading elk]

I wanna try an “alternate” Germany run where I attempt get as much stuff as possible without fighting just to see

[ivory hull]

i think you just need a really big army

for them to say yes

and luck

[acoustic wasp]

alrighht

next time

[ivory hull]

next time also go grand battleplan lwk

[acoustic wasp]

yeah i just didnt have the xp at the start

[fading elk]

So that means going Von neutrath, coring all of Czechoslovakia, doing the diplo pressure which (as I’ve been been told) should have a chance to have Poland accept Danzig or war
Doing the manipulation focuses to spread facism to the Benelux, Scandinavia and etc, and that’s about it

I’m not the best with spies so not sure about how DOW will work

[ivory hull]

you can still do reorganize tbh

no idea about poland accepting danzig

but cant you do danzig for slovakia?

[fading elk]

Ya true

Though if you do befriend the Czechs it locks you out of DFS

Unless you do a manual transfer of zaloie

[ivory hull]

thats why you go reorganize

[fading elk]

Guess I will then

Actually if I don’t Barb on the Soviets how long until they could do a reverse Barb on me?

[ivory hull]

no idea

[fading elk]

I don’t think I ever really had that before as just Germany

[ivory hull]

if you do molotov

probably no reverse barb at all

[fading elk]

A fair

[ivory hull]

if you dont take poland

they cant really attack you

[fading elk]

I went looking at people seem to say if you do fate of yugo before the Czechs you can get them

But idk how that messes with the other annexation events

[ivory hull]

just save before and try

[vernal river]

i love navy

[fading elk]

Ya I guess, if I get desperate I can always just tag swap to see

Also today I learned if your an axis minor (such as greater Lithuania) and drag Germany into a war as early as 37 you screw them over

Cus you turn on economy of conquest for em

[acoustic wasp]

D day 3 years early

[ivory hull]

german ai is cooked when sudetenland is denied

[ivory hull]

please tell me you arent invading with tanks

[acoustic wasp]

Marines and tanks, WHOS GONNA STOP ME

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[ivory hull]

check the amphibious debuff for your tanks

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-brennan-huff-step-brothers-no-not-at-all-gif-16704124883174027526

they still landing

[strange sun]

For infantry? Hell no

[fading elk]

You can kinda tell the devs never intended for Germany to do a pre 39 war

[ivory hull]

sounds horrible, use this

[fading elk]

Well in the EOC department

Hmmm so seems yugo is statistically more lightly to accept FOY then not

[north hazel]

Tried to make clean borders but vanilla

[fading elk]

That’s interesting

[north hazel]

Leon Blum French EU on Historical

[fading elk]

I assume guarantees factor in of course but still

[wide osprey]

basically, playing hitler but without hitler

[north hazel]

You're being liberated, please do not resist :meow:

[acoustic wasp]

the canadians landed? lmao?????

LMAOOOO

[unreal scarab]

yo why am i struggling to take this part what

[ivory hull]

ok

you have no supply

dont build a new supply hub

the one that is already there isnt even connected

your troops dont have much equipment and just suck

connect the supply hub

stop attacking

wait for supply

build up planning

attack

[true oar]

Take your time jesus christ

[misty fossil]

@ivory hull

[unreal scarab]

mb this is my first time playing

[unreal scarab]

how do i do dat

[ivory hull]

60% experience?

[ivory hull]

build a railway

that connects it

to your railways

[misty fossil]

yeah its from bm experience or something

[ivory hull]

holy better mechanics "cheats"

[misty fossil]

me when i cant use mods

its joever

[ivory hull]

your playing with the bm economic mod?

[misty fossil]

i think so

[unreal scarab]

okay i got it

[unkempt sun]

whats ur division design btw

the division design ur using to clock thaat encirclement

[untold cove]

why there is two european federations

[unreal scarab]

mm how do i check that

[ivory hull]

theyre the italian starter divs

[unreal scarab]

yea starter divs

[unkempt sun]

what year is it

zed

[unkempt sun]

You know how there is a Edit button near the Train division button

click it

and send a pic

click the edit button of the division u use the most

[north hazel]

where? xd

[untold cove]

i mistaken european russia for eu

[north hazel]

a

[unkempt sun]

these divisions arent really good for offensive u can use the starter divisions to finish ethiopia rq but then you will need to change the division designs a bit

these type of divisions are mostly made to hold the line

[unreal scarab]

kk!

uhh

[plucky sparrow]

how do I mod game

[brittle cypress]

Steam workshop

[plucky sparrow]

I mean how do I MOD the game myself.

[brittle cypress]

oh no idea lol

Try #modding maybe

[acoustic wasp]

You want to make mods yourself or you want to add mods to your game without using steam workshop?

[plucky sparrow]

Make mods myself

[acoustic wasp]

oh well yeah try that channel and go on youtube maybe someone has a guide up

[unreal scarab]

oookay its built

[ivory hull]

do you have supply on your divs?

[unreal scarab]

uhh

[ivory hull]

looks like you can attack tho

[unreal scarab]

mm

kk

this looks bad

[ivory hull]

looks ok for ital

y

[acoustic wasp]

we're back

<@&846894118219022336>

[unreal scarab]

still

taking a while

ohh okay finally i got ethiopia

okay

[uncut pollen]

What is a good devision template for the mod "the great war" in 1910?

[ivory hull]

a good one

[unreal scarab]

what do i do now

i think i industrialize but!

i gotta deal with resistance!

[silver dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-invincible-mark-grayson-invincible-you-can't-defeat-me-i'm-unstoppable-gif-17866134428813591447

do that

[unreal scarab]

deal with resistance then industrialize the place gotcha

[misty fossil]

wait what is this country????

wow i never knew these states actually have its own generic tree

[silver dawn]

there is not a big difference to the default tree

[serene breach]

mid stats

[proud tapir]

i love using light tanks as minors, my 4 tank divisions just encricled and destroyed 4 german panzer divisions in selisia

pretty sure thats most of their panzer corps since its early game

[acoustic wasp]

3000 factories in 1941? bro what are you playing is this modded?

[serene breach]

gaiming chair

[acoustic wasp]

valid

[cloud maple]

non-hist 2 players rn 90285506139814923

[misty fossil]

motherships might be my new best thingamabob ever

how the turntables

[ivory hull]

bro wtf is this

1000 air attack?!?!

[misty fossil]

at 50% reliability lol

[ivory hull]

what does reliability do on planes?

[misty fossil]

no idea

probs just increases accident chance

[true oar]

how badly do space marines beat ai

[ivory hull]

if done correctly the ai has no chance

[true oar]

cause I heard theyre relly good but if its gamebreaking good i wont make them

[plucky sparrow]

I only use space Marines because I suck at hoi4 🙁

[gentle briar]

https://klipy.com/gifs/zhukov-1--k01KR4C1K60Y59XZKR5KJT8BV2M

exact context of the scene

[hallow thistle]

what does outdated mean? is it still playable and "good"?

[wide osprey]

no longer supported

🧐

[lethal ether]

what mod?

[gentle briar]

dont underestimate gonzalo quipo

[prisma steppe]

wait, have one with higher stats-alter

[shell sorrel]

Sorry I’ve been working but in the army overview when you click on any army or army group it should be a button near the general’s skills, somewhere top-right ish

You can set it to horse, truck, or lots of trucks

[near mortar]

Can kx france or britain core stuff?

[prisma steppe]

nvm the save is corrupted

[shell sorrel]

Yeah you just need a coring tool

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dengmore-Stainless-Steel-Core-Seed-Remover-Fruit-Apple-Pear-Corer-Easy-Twist-Kitchen-Tool-for-Kitchen/852991660?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=101608844&wmlspartner=wlpa&cn=FY25-ENTP-PMAX_cnv_dps_dsn_dis_ad_entp_e_n&gclsrc=aw.ds&adid=22222222298852991660_101608844_0000000000_21407473164&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=&wl4=&wl5=21143&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=5340315596&wl11=online&wl12=852991660_101608844&veh=sem&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21690411341&gbraid=0AAAAADmfBIpNRUTs3aLLH4BbvtAU7sZqK&gclid=Cj0KCQjwk_bPBhDXARIsACiq8R0OLUBP9Qbp5BmgRNXc7TFa6gSGxJXw5FEfrdscCRShaRSxDKGHdbkaAsbZEALw_wcB

[hallow thistle]

yea but is that it milennium drawn

[shell sorrel]

Like that long ass URL

[unreal scarab]

your ok

[lethal ether]

???

[silk night]

guys whats the best space marines template for singleplayer

[winged field]

the one with highest armor

[silk night]

this one?

[lethal ether]

i dont know shit about space marines but arent u supposed to use spaag?

and special forces?

[winged field]

yeah, not sure about the rocket artillery tho

if you could get superheavy artillery

would be great

ig logistic works but I would rather get rangers instead

[silk night]

alright well

one more question

[winged field]

terrian buffs +extra attack

hmm?

[silk night]

whats a good template for africa (im playing egypt in r56)

early and mid game

[winged field]

im not familiar with r56

so idk how different it is without that mod

[silk night]

eh its same as vanilla in terms of combat and whatnot im pretty sure

[winged field]

oh

alr then

you dont really need to change templates for africa, just work on supply hubs and etc.

motorized army

I would probably keep logistics for africa

[lethal ether]

egypt has the industry for space marines?

[winged field]

building railways etc.

[tender egret]

whats a fun nation to play i have the dlc no step back batlle for bosphorus and la resistance

[silk night]

nope not really

[silk night]

can u send me good template?

[winged field]

space marines are not that expensive tbh

[winged field]

eh what is your current one?

[silk night]

😭

[lethal ether]

who r u gonna be fighting?

[winged field]

18w is basic inf

+support arty and support aa if you dont have air

[lethal ether]

space marines are only rlly good for defending

and u dont even have the industry for them

[silk night]

ALL of the middle east

[silk night]

and thats it?

[winged field]

the one he sent would work for offense tho

if you scroll up

[winged field]

thats your basic inf yes

[lethal ether]

space marines or not he will get steamrolled anyways if he doesnt have supply and air

i would genuinely just focus on good supply

[winged field]

its more for holding but its standard inf

[lethal ether]

and fight with standard inf

and air

[winged field]

for sure, but if he wants to use them he might as well do it with that template

[unreal scarab]

what should i do here

[lethal ether]

how many mils do u have?

[lethal ether]

local police force, a template FULL of cav and support MP

[silk night]

for now only 2

[lethal ether]

yeah he is not making any space marines

[sudden thistle]

Esports Alta

[winged field]

with 2 naaah 😭

[silk night]

high hopes and big dreams

[winged field]

like good starting point is 15

[silk night]

what can i really cook with 2

[lethal ether]

inf + artillery

[unreal scarab]

where can you find this stuff at

[winged field]

1 on guns is not enough tbh

[crisp loom]

I'm trying to play Czechs into historical Germany. Could someone please take a look at my division templates for offense and defense and see how these could potentially be improved?

[lethal ether]

js to be clear ure tryna raise compliance right

[unreal scarab]

yea

[winged field]

you could just make inf block and be with big hp stack

[winged field]

that works even without supports

[lethal ether]

make a template full of cav and just support millitary police

and

set it to local police force

[winged field]

1.st picture is terrible 2nd. picture is kinda terrible

[lethal ether]

inf + support arty

[winged field]

with 2 mils u aint putting arty

[lethal ether]

1 arty 1 guns

[winged field]

if you want to field decently sized divcisions

[lethal ether]

maybe he will get 1 more

2 guns 1 arty

arty is a must have if ure gonna fight

[winged field]

yeah if he gets 3rd one sure

[crisp loom]

can you explain more? I don't have anything upgraded since it's the start of the game, I'm just trying to get a feel for balancing combat width and the mix of unit types

[winged field]

I'll make it detailed just gime a sec

[crisp loom]

I was told to do 30 width mot infantry + a tank division for offense and infantry + arty 15 width for defense

[lethal ether]

why would u ever use mot infantry

it has same stats as normal infantry but it goes faster

[winged field]

• normal recon is useless
• you dont have support arty
• line light tanks is terrible
• line artillery is just bad in general
• cavarly is worse than normal inf
• you might as well do inf block of 36w or 35w with line aa for extra air attack

[crisp loom]

I thought it was better to do infantry + one tank division than to do all tanks since you get the defense bonus from the one tank and it's very cheap comparatively speaking. And I assumed you wanted faster units since otherwise the tank speed is useless due to the slow infantry

[lethal ether]

u wont be needing speed as czechoslovakia

[crisp loom]

So what would an example ideal tank division (or infantry but offensive focused) look like? And a cheap defensive one?

[unreal scarab]

mm shoot wait i need to get this up to 750k how would i do that

[crisp loom]

I don't know the "meta" builds since I'm pretty new so I just went off what I saw for the stats

[unreal scarab]

in like 293 days

[lethal ether]

raise conscription law

[unreal scarab]

thanks dawg

[winged field]

tank div

replace cavarly later on with mechanized

[lethal ether]

np!

[winged field]

u can replace shh with hospitals for example

inf brick

for last slot add hospitals

[unreal scarab]

do i just send all these dudes home also do you mean template by like the one in recruit and deploy or something else also what does cav stand for

[crisp loom]

got it thanks. Noticing you have a lot more "+" modifiers than I do for attack and movement across the different terrain types xD

[winged field]

flame tanks

[lethal ether]

cav = cavarly, make a template with it and select it in the occupied territory tab as the primary garrison

[untold cove]

why not add two more spg

[winged field]

10/8 is standard, ig you could lower if you really wanted but at that point your org will be too low

[ivory hull]

you dont want to go over 36w

[ivory hull]

the flame tanks still gives buff even when not in the field

[winged field]

oh he meant like 40w?

[crisp loom]

ah ok. And that's the one unlocked through the land special project right? How about a small defensive template - still infantry block but with fewer lines of infantry? I don't have much manpower with Czechs so I wanted to make a bunch of smaller infantry divisions instead of a couple big ones. Easier to defend front line I thought

[ivory hull]

think so

[winged field]

I thought he just meant the ration

[untold cove]

i mean

you have 10 spg battalions

why not add two more

[ivory hull]

because if youd go to 40w

you wouldnt fit into most battles

[winged field]

wdym not on field? like I dont need them produced?

[ivory hull]

wait imma show you

[unreal scarab]

liikee this

[lethal ether]

yes very good

[unreal scarab]

so i just wait now!

[untold cove]

iirc having 20 cavalry battalions and 1 cavalry battalion makes no difference

[untold cove]

in terms of garrison

[ivory hull]

1 flame tank in the div (also works with 0) and i still get the buffs

[winged field]

lol

nice

[unreal scarab]

mmm

wait what does it mean by division in field

[untold cove]

all yor divisions must equal to 750k manpower

[past elm]

I need help against the soviets this game is driving me insane

[ivory hull]

as germany?

[pine shale]

hello im learninh oi4

[untold cove]

hover over to your manpower tab, you'll see divisions there

[past elm]

No as Britain I did the empire focus tree

[unreal scarab]

ooooh shooot

[past elm]

And I was fighting Japan and the Soviets declared war on my pit of nowhere after I saved them from Germany

And now I got pushed all the back to Spain I don’t know how they keep pushing me

[pine shale]

is italy good noob nation

[lethal ether]

SS of the situation?

[lethal ether]

very

[untold cove]

deploy infantry divisions, they are usually cheapest

[past elm]

these are my inf template

[lethal ether]

send ss of the map

also pls dont use line arty

[untold cove]

add support artillery and remove 3-4 of these pesky line arty

[pine shale]

https://tenor.com/view/whipping-rico-torture-gif-19819811

learning hoi4 be like

[lethal ether]

idk how ur air situation is going but id also recommend some aa

[unreal scarab]

like tihs

[lethal ether]

so why exactly do you have 12 divisions in some tiles and others are left completely empty

[past elm]

i do but they kill my air and btw they are killing my air which i havce no idea how

[untold cove]

i dont know the division template so i dont know

[winged field]

just no 😭

[lethal ether]

add aa

[pine shale]

im new how do i know what to produce?

[lethal ether]

u see what u need

[untold cove]

what are your divisions using?

[lethal ether]

u produce based on need

look at the template u want

[past elm]

i dont know i constantly have to rejust my front lineee because it keepss breaking

[lethal ether]

and u see how much equipment it uses

[past elm]

tell me good endgame template

[pine shale]

what about factories how many iivlian and military

[lethal ether]

did u mess with the cohesion or something

[untold cove]

have like 45-60 civvies and rest military

[past elm]

nah my air just got slapped out of the world

[lethal ether]

add aa then

simple

[past elm]

im -2.5k and i have 40 milsss on small airframe alone

[pine shale]

when should i train my troops

[winged field]

replace cavarly with mechanized

[misty fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1063817618475208755/1153549899233755266/babylon.gif

[past elm]

whatss the tank template

[past elm]

bro i dont know how to build good units

[winged field]

something like this, for last slot use armor skirt

it adds breakthrough + some armor

[lethal ether]

sheeps ai, why dont the soviets have any air? its 1940..

[past elm]

is this dessign bad this is whaat im currently building

this is my air btw

[winged field]

its fine

[winged field]

those are canon II?

[past elm]

yes

[winged field]

or I

[past elm]

2

[winged field]

2 is good, I would add more armor plates tho

and dont use bomb locks on fighters

its useless

[past elm]

my inf is getting pushedd i dont know how thiss game is driving me insane

[haughty sail]

I like naval

[unreal scarab]

mmm

what should i do here

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-cats-178--k01KR4G4XQ8Z53AQA4C9NKM61EA

[past elm]

@winged field what do i do?

[winged field]

whats your template?

[past elm]

.

[winged field]

bro #hoi4-general message

nvm thats offensive

[past elm]

bro thats a tank i need aa inf template

[winged field]

for defensive just do 18w

with support arty and aa if you dont have hair

[past elm]

wdym?

[winged field]

9 inf battalions

1 inf battalion = 2w

[wide osprey]

i never used spa guns

😔

[past elm]

okaay i did that and i put all 50 on my tank and 50 on air\

factories

[unreal scarab]

what

am i tweaking or id somehing i post here get deleted

or not evn send

??

weiird

Ohh. Ok I see

[pine shale]

how do i know whether to put civlian or military factories

[cursive oxide]

As in where to build or when to build them ?

[pine shale]

WHY CANT I END IMAGES BRUH THEY GET DELETED

[pine shale]

when

[cursive oxide]

What nation?

[pine shale]

any

bro there is so many pop ups nad things to do

[sudden thistle]

Do them

[pine shale]

bro like idk what to pick

[cursive oxide]

Just make like civs until 1938 then spam mil

[sudden thistle]

Press a pop up

Do it

Then do the next one

[pine shale]

which officer corp thing, research, which production, how many factories, what equipment to produce, what kind of military units to get
out of resources ???
insufficent coal ???
im so overwhelmed

[cursive oxide]

Aslo do the economy focuses

[cursive oxide]

What's a tutorial or sum

[sudden thistle]

Holy moly do tutorials not exist to u?

[pine shale]

bro i watched the official hoi4 tutorial dumbass

1 hour long

[cursive oxide]

You make the stuff you need if you press i for inventory

[sudden thistle]

Why are u calling me the dumbass 😭

[cursive oxide]

You see what you need

[sudden thistle]

Ur the one who can barely play the game

[pine shale]

bc im overwhelmed idk what to do

my brain melting

[cursive oxide]

Tutorial and just watch a lot of hoi4 stream) video's

[pine shale]

idk how to get coal bruh

[sudden thistle]

Just do everything slowly

And watching simple gameplay videos help a lot

[cursive oxide]

As in more or trade ?

[sly venture]

trade

[pine shale]

then im gonna go broke ??

[sly venture]

build civilian factories

what country are you playing

[pine shale]

italy

[cursive oxide]

Get the research that give more resource Gain

[bronze glade]

hoi4 base https://medal.tv/games/hearts-of-iron-iv/clips/mFAzqfVJKv1ZvG1-o?invite=cr-MSxnbmMsMzA2NzM3MzI5

[cursive oxide]

Did you beat Ethiopië

[sly venture]

You are a major

you have 500+ options

[pine shale]

its 1938 almost

i havent beaten them yet

[cursive oxide]

[sly venture]

1938 is crazy

[past elm]

the tankss arent doing anything

[pine shale]

bro you cant learn this gamew a s anew player its impossible

[sly venture]

Do you have by blood alone

[cursive oxide]

Bro stop saying this every day

[sly venture]

how did I do it

[pine shale]

maybe the devs need to learn how to make a game

[cursive oxide]

No need for Ethiopië

[sly venture]

or you need to learn how to play the game

[cursive oxide]

Fr

[sly venture]

Rome wasn’t built in a month

[cursive oxide]

It whas in 1 day

[pine shale]

bro i watched 1 hour tutorial game still makes no ense

[sly venture]

ok??? Watch another one

[pine shale]

???????????????

[sly venture]

the answer is so obvious

[cursive oxide]

Best one for like base base I wil send you

[pine shale]

u want me to spend 1000000000 years watching tutorial until im dying in hospital bed

[sly venture]

use common sense

[sly venture]

maybe

watch another tutorial

[cursive oxide]

https://youtu.be/3EB8TLvkZAM?si=tKo-dS_Lv1e4_RXu

[sly venture]

no

[cursive oxide]

?

[sly venture]

watching a 5 minutes tutorial ain’t teaching you anything

you need to watch someone do a world conquest

and see what they are doing

then implement that in your own game

[cursive oxide]

I now it's just really simple base

[sly venture]

like when I first started playing I lost to den mark as Germany

[sly venture]

(idk how)

[cursive oxide]

@pine shale Do you now how to Airforce?

[cursive oxide]

Im not beter got into a comie civil war as Iran as my first game

[unreal scarab]

oh okay

[cursive oxide]

?

[sly venture]

I remember a week ago I was playing as democratic usa

[fading elk]

So I just did operation Alaric for the first time, time to steal the Regina marina and rename it

[sly venture]

and I forgot garrisons on 0

so communist Mexico popped up

[unreal scarab]

discord was bugging 4 me

??

bro what

discord is bugging for me

but i just realized it was my wifi

[cursive oxide]

[unreal scarab]

oh so i still cant send images

[cursive oxide]

Is it not blocked?

[unreal scarab]

shruf

yea its blocked for me

for whatever eason

[cursive oxide]

@pine shale ?

[unreal scarab]

cant even load parts of pfps what

its probably bcus of discords outage rn

[bronze glade]

useless

to learn how to play hoi4 you need few thousands of hours

[unreal scarab]

ok

[unreal scarab]

Yo

[willow gull]

yo

[vital cove]

alternatively, you can know how to read and then you'll understand hoi4 much faster

[shell sorrel]

It’s very simple, set a timer for 4min, open the game, close the game as soon as the timer goes off (or earlier!)

Hearts of iron in 5min or less

[unreal scarab]

discords down bro!

[mental mantle]

Is prioritize army growth good

[sudden thistle]

That doesn’t exist in this community

I’m yet to find a new player who is more literate than a middle aged peasant during the Black Death

[lethal ether]

they were actually pretty literate btw

[sudden thistle]

Just roll with the joke 🙏

[unreal scarab]

is discord working

[silk fern]

Servers are broken or something

[unreal scarab]

sighh

[crisp loom]

what is the infantry used in this template? I don't recognize the symbol

[ivory hull]

its normal infantry

that ss was from a mod

[crisp loom]

ah ok

[sly venture]

who made paratroopers

[ivory hull]

your italy bro

use your navy

[sly venture]

look at the time

[ivory hull]

is the italian navy asleep at 21 o clock or what?

[sudden thistle]

I gotchu bro

[crisp loom]

I still couldn't get the right numbers though, gave myself all the research and only got this for template. Not the same soft attack as the one Hope shared

[ivory hull]

probably was doctrines and stuff

might the mod

that the ss was from

the template

is still really good tho

just get medium flame tanks

[crisp loom]

ah shoot you're right, forgot about those +10% bonuses and whatnot from the doctrines

[ivory hull]

lwk

and shh isnt like needed

[ivory hull]

also a fun fact about flame tanks, the divisions dont actually have to be supplied with flame tanks for the bonuses to apply

[crisp loom]

so you add it to your division template but never produce any, and still get the bonuses?

[ivory hull]

yea

[crisp loom]

that's crazy

[ivory hull]

also iirc the ss had assault infantry as doctrine

[crisp loom]

well now that I have a late game build designed out and know what I eventually want to have, now I have to go and do 1938 builds with nothing unlocked to fight Germany xD

[ivory hull]

i held as monarchist czechia with austria annexed and cored with like 3 18w armies

got like 6 tanks out

[wary locust]

a

[ivory hull]

when they declared in 39

[crisp loom]

I did a couple games on ahistorical and germany still went historical and it resulted in a July 1938 declaration that I was not ready for, lost in like 2 months lmao. I had 30 divisions total they had 85

[ivory hull]

yea 30 isnt enough

[crisp loom]

but as with any paradox game, I am ready to try (and fail) again until I figure it out

[ivory hull]

try the monarchist path

but the czech tree also required a few tries for me to get it

[crisp loom]

that was what I did, I went down the tree for austria, hungary, then romania and yugoslavia. I made it to about romania when they attacked

[ivory hull]

yea i stopped after i had hungary and austria

build up after the two

[crisp loom]

it definitely helps a ton if yugo and/or rom accept your offer without a war

[ivory hull]

yea true but i didnt want to risk it

[crisp loom]

but that's just luck haha

[crisp loom]

how many divisions did you have in total when Germany declared?

[ivory hull]

germany declared kinda late on me

[crisp loom]

and I assume you gave up the north and just did a fallback line on your last tiles to reduce the size of the line?

[valid wolf]

Uhh guys I'm having a glitch where I have all the dlcs without owning them

[crisp loom]

how on earth did you get that much manpower to be able to field so many armies? I had like 100k manpower and was on extensive conscription when they declared

[scenic pulsar]

im playing tfr trying to get cognoscenti and the run i FINALLY defeat the ACG the militia resistance thats required to do it doesnt pop up

[ivory hull]

focus and 1 advisor

[vernal river]

carpet bombing an island country with hydrogen bombs as i learned makes it really hard to conquer

dont do it lmao

[ivory hull]

this guy

[ivory hull]

the top one gave +5%

[crisp loom]

ok I'll give it another go and make sure to take that portion of the tree. Thanks

[lethal ether]

what joke

[ivory hull]

just rush austria and hungary and do the forts decisions, and do the ready for anything decision in the balance of power

[lethal ether]

how hard is this? im embarassed to say ive never tried it 😭

[ivory hull]

the hardest part is knowing which czech focuses you have to do

[lethal ether]

im guessing germany is really weak bcuz no austria

[ivory hull]

the industry tree is genuinely the most confusing tree i ever had to use in vanilla

[wild dune]

what type of bombers do I need for nukes?

tactical or strategic?

[ivory hull]

they werent too weak but the allies just also declared on them

[sudden thistle]

Large

[ivory hull]

strat

[wild dune]

thanks

[lethal ether]

were they guaranteeing u

[ivory hull]

i think germany declared on the baltics

thats why

when i had my tanks out tho

i just melted the germans

[finite plume]

Good god

[valid wolf]

Did waking the tiger get updated?

[fair horizon]

Do iowa next

[vital cove]

me

i am a new player who is literate

[mental mantle]

Should I go for Prioritize Economic Growth

[willow gull]

no 4 year plan

if you’re going non historical germany do prioritize

[mental mantle]

I’m going ‘peaceful hitler’ path
I’m taking as much land without starting wars

[willow gull]

besides austria & czech?

[mental mantle]

I’m hoping Austria accepts, but if they don’t idk

[ivory hull]

then probably go peg

[willow gull]

they will

[sly venture]

faith worse then death

nice

[fair horizon]

faith

[coral snow]

you know youre cooked when this shows up after declaring war on the tiniest country known to mankind that has no relations with britian

[daring geyser]

hallelujah!

[abstract cargo]

I was just playing 1939 start UK and do my thing in africa while holding the border with Belgium

I look down and just see france taking Milano on their own

HOW??

[quasi viper]

I would love to see what Paradox would actually give Liberia if they made Liberian content XD

[unreal scarab]

wat do i do here

[ripe slate]

Nothing

[unreal scarab]

thanks pal

[quasi viper]

Wtf, Brain. Why'd you autocorrect to content to continent?

https://tenor.com/view/brain-trash-spongebob-squidward-dumb-gif-6107304767584724449

[wet flicker]

press improved worker conditions if you need stability but thats after you used your political power for everything else you need it for possible

[ripe slate]

If your stability is atrocious you can do improved worker

If youre stuck with ideology drift you can ban the party to counteract

If youre desperate for building slots you can do that economic policy

If you need rubber and got the resources/requirements you can build it there

If youre at war and got PP to spend you can basically buy war support one-time

[wet flicker]

aha said it first

[willow gull]

who’s the strongest of the baltics ?

[terse skiff]

Stab is one of the first things you should raise especially if you start with <50 stab

[unreal scarab]

well what now

how do i get.. more fuel?

[willow gull]

trade for it

[half onyx]

Lithuania by far

Easy PLC

[willow gull]

that’s true

[half onyx]

1. Lithuania
2. Estonia
3. Latvia

[willow gull]

do the soviets & germany still get war goals

[half onyx]

yes

[unreal scarab]

who do i trade with

hmm

[willow gull]

anyone has oil

[half onyx]

If I play as Lithuania I give Danzig to Germany and then just focus on the soviets

[ripe slate]

Estonia gets Finland, Lithuania Poland and Latvia Belarus

[half onyx]

I would do it with future enemies

[unreal scarab]

i should've reworded that who should i trade with

like

[willow gull]

germany since it’s your ally if they have oil

[half onyx]

Germany does not have any oil

are barely any

Romania is really the only German ally with oil

or Iran

[willow gull]

^

yeah i’m dumb they have 4💀

[unreal scarab]

good enough?

i got 3 civ factories

37

[haughty sail]

NCNS or GoE or Gotter dlc

[sudden thistle]

Gotter

[haughty sail]

Fine

But Phillipines

[sudden thistle]

Gotter is more fun imo

[haughty sail]

I remember doing raids with a subscription and it confused me

[fair horizon]

save pp if you need it otherwise you can do region wide industrialization if you dont have a lot of building slots, worker conditions for stability, raids for stability and more party focus (thats really good but theres other ways to get that usually) war propaganda for war support/other war support decisions

[fair horizon]

austria player smh

[haughty sail]

My first nation i played when I first started Hoi4 was Siam so im a Siam main

Didnt NCNS change how naval is played @sudden thistle

[fair horizon]

no just the update that came with it

core mechanics are the same

but supremacy is really the only difference

cant have supremacy without boats in the water

[haughty sail]

Wait so u have to have more boats besides 10?

[unreal scarab]

i needa pacify ethiopia

[fair horizon]

you have to actually patrol boats in the water

no sitting in port having a strike force protect half the world without having something in those regions