#hoi4-general

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vivid halo
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i got detention for 1h bc of it

iron otter
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hello

wide osprey
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i forgor there are support techs 😭 āœŒļø

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it's 1943 and 1939 tech are not researched

viscid mason
# iron otter hello

I wonder why mechanized towed artillery/anti air/ anti tank doesn't exist in game? Irl the german sd kfz. 11 was used to tow artillery. I know self propelled artillery exists in game but they take 2 width, not one and act more like tanks than artillery. Just my small rant on line artillery.

cursive oxide
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Guys ? How do I beat turkey as Greece? I trying the in circle navel trick I destroyed 18 unit's but the keep coming

viscid mason
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the ai is very stupid

cursive oxide
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It's 1939 1 Year and 6 months and the keep coming

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The have 300k dead

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Can the just idk fricking die

viscid mason
cursive oxide
honest glacier
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get lend lease from majors

past summit
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1600 breakthrough

viscid mason
cursive oxide
viscid mason
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if you encircle and capture Turkish troops you might get their equipment

cursive oxide
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I did get 2.5k guns from Italy

viscid mason
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convert some of your inf to mountaineers

cursive oxide
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Not if the turkey keeps pushing you're line's

charred herald
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chat this is so confusing

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i might quit alrdy

iron otter
cursive oxide
charred herald
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first game tutorial is no help

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SOOO CONFUSING

iron otter
charred herald
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ho do you recomend

cursive oxide
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Watch Trust

iron otter
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or tommykay

charred herald
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ok

charred herald
ivory hull
past summit
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yes

ivory hull
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whats your div template?

cursive oxide
ivory hull
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in sp you want soft

past summit
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I went with armored spearhead

zenith charm
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will switch to mech soon

past summit
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so it was required for tons of breakthrough

ivory hull
ivory hull
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you dont need hard attack tho

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in sp

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ai tanks are buns

zenith charm
ivory hull
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until like 1945

zenith charm
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and theyre good cuz its 1942

ivory hull
zenith charm
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or atleast semi

ivory hull
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those spgs will usually always work

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against the ai

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never had problems

past summit
ivory hull
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if you need just add like support at

past summit
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plus big breakthrough number funny

dry sleet
ivory hull
zenith charm
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cuz its cheaper

honest glacier
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only femboys use spgs

ivory hull
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wanna get mech fast tho

dry sleet
ivory hull
ivory hull
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speed

past summit
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Also jesus why the hell do my Marines have ridiculous amounts of defense

ivory hull
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6.4kmh

past summit
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hmm hol up lemme change it then

south mountain
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Is it worth playing multiplayer

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???

past summit
iron otter
dry sleet
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plus more supply use

ivory hull
honest glacier
willow gull
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if this is one of yall, SHAME

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the comment section gotta be rage bait

zenith charm
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it is it has to be

proud tapir
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i had such a good defence against Germany as Czechoslovakia and was a bunker, but because France fell i capitulated automatically because im a minor haHaa

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I waited for France to fall so German AI can do barbarossa because the allies ignore Germany if they fight the Czechoslovak French alliance

snow rain
novel zephyr
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When will there be a new USA focus tree?

proud tapir
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Literally never getting into a faction with France

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most useless ally oat

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more useless than Italy

sudden thistle
uncut wraith
# proud tapir more useless than Italy

i’ve seen france ai occasionally almost something but any time i play germany italy ALWAYS ends up forcing itself into the war and immediately losing a ton of men and forcing me to redirect a bunch of troops

novel zephyr
proud tapir
uncut wraith
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aka it it invades switzerland when i have zero (0) divs on my border with switzerland and then switzerland joins allies

sudden thistle
proud tapir
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France fell to Italy btw

sudden thistle
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Minimum 2-3 years for a USA dlc Dw

uncut wraith
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i havent played germany in a while but i would usually just invade italy before they could do something braindead

willow gull
novel zephyr
proud tapir
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you are fino doing everything alone

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and peace deals suck anyways

sudden thistle
uncut wraith
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i don’t invite them and they still force themselves into the war by invading switzerland or greece

proud tapir
novel zephyr
sudden thistle
novel zephyr
uncut wraith
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there’s still dozens of minors that nobody plays that need slop focus trees and even more anti fun mechanics that paradox could implement before actually making the game better

sudden thistle
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I’m pretty sure they just have discord for communication?…

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Not with us typically

vivid halo
uncut wraith
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why would they even be in the server then if they don’t use it lmao

novel zephyr
uncut wraith
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because paradox likes minors for some reason

novel zephyr
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Like with Japan if I remember correctly

novel zephyr
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Like sure its fun to play... Honduras but I would prefer having a focus tree for nations that dont start playing in 1956

sudden thistle
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I’m not a dev so I got no idea

novel zephyr
acoustic wasp
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Microing elastic defense is some real fun icl just trapped half the soviet army in warsaw

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Stalin, it's time to pay for your bullying of the polish people

sudden thistle
sudden thistle
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Like vic3 looks very promising

acoustic wasp
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SLAVIC UNION INCOMING

sudden thistle
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But it’s also newer

novel zephyr
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Btw I never played UK do they have a good tree?

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Can you core a lot?

willow gull
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it’s decent

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a little outdated

novel zephyr
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What is like the max cores you can do?

uncut wraith
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i ain’t never played uk before but the focus tree doesn’t look terrible

lofty adder
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What gives reliability in the template of manufactured tanks

acoustic wasp
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God damn

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just deleted like 1.5m in that pocket

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moscow here we come

uncut wraith
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i feel like beating the soviets even late game feels super easy like once you destroy about 3m men worth of divisions they’re just kind of a coughing baby

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whereas historically germany did that and still lost at the gates of moscow

near forum
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just connect suply and have air

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ez

dry sleet
uncut wraith
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i was doing usa a few days ago and i was pretty much able to push straight to moscow and get like 5m kills with about 200k casualties with 10 infantry armies and 3 medium tank armies in like 1944

acoustic wasp
uncut wraith
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i can’t remember the last time i’ve seen the ussr go past extensive conscription

uncut wraith
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they’d rather have literally 0 manpower than mobilize

dry sleet
lofty adder
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Paradox you company is ###############

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Please try optimize your game after dlc realize

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Release

uncut wraith
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i think a really easy way to ā€œoptimizeā€ the game is to just make countries want to demobilize after major wars

ivory hull
uncut wraith
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e.g. it is absurd that the uk will keep like 350 divs after the war ends

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especially cuz historically they were broke after the war

acoustic wasp
uncut wraith
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so they, along with soviets and usa at the very least should delete like half if not more of their divs

ivory hull
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talking bout "expensive but i can do it"

uncut wraith
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kinda like what great war redux does

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except i hate that it deletes like half your factories that’s kinda bs

acoustic wasp
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i microed the infantry at the start

ivory hull
acoustic wasp
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did like some sort of elastic defense

ivory hull
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here we go

acoustic wasp
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trapped half the army in poland

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but i didnt micro the tanks

uncut wraith
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cuz probably the biggest source of late game lag is the thousands of divs on the allies and comintern

acoustic wasp
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no lags at all

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it's a mod called restrain AI

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really good

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and delete south america too

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they basically just limit all the african countries to certain divisions

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and the minor nations

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they dont touch the european relevant stuff

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congo, saudi, yemen, etc i think it limits how much divisions they can field

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so no lag

willow gull
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interesting

acoustic wasp
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anotha one

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i will be indulging in some tomfoolery when invading the brits and the americans

ivory hull
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but please just use mediums

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heavies are overkill

ivory hull
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howitzer

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heavy howitzer

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your wasting a lot of ic

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on allat armor

near forum
ivory hull
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also

acoustic wasp
near forum
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is it on mp

ivory hull
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when not using heavy armament

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use medium 3 man turret

acoustic wasp
ivory hull
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a lot better than heavy

ivory hull
near forum
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even if u have like 20 armor the ai cant pierce

acoustic wasp
ivory hull
acoustic wasp
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just for the hell of it

ivory hull
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and make armor meme bro

near forum
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just go for 12km and outrun everuyhing

odd acorn
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what's a good template for base game?

ivory hull
odd acorn
ivory hull
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36w inf

odd acorn
ivory hull
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i recommend you do get some dlcs

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mainly by blood alone and no step back

near forum
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depends on the country tho

lofty adder
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What about Russia

odd acorn
odd acorn
ivory hull
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your in for a good run

near forum
ivory hull
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bohemia has some nice paths

odd acorn
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so that's why I'm looking for a good template

ivory hull
ivory hull
near forum
ivory hull
odd acorn
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and add some supports

ivory hull
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sadly

near forum
odd acorn
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normally logistics, artillery, and recon

ivory hull
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line arty is horrible

ivory hull
near forum
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plsss

ivory hull
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so next time

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full 36w inf

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or mountaineers if you can

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and then some 18w line holders

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with support aa/arty

odd acorn
ivory hull
near forum
ivory hull
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on a lot of nations

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you can do inf bricks

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im really not sure bout bohemia tho

near forum
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thats temple is suiper expensive

ivory hull
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what do you recommend?

near forum
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it will make u go -10k guns 1 month

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always aim for 24-26

ivory hull
odd acorn
ivory hull
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big divs dont take many losses

ivory hull
acoustic wasp
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useful allies lessgo

near forum
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just have air and everything is possible

acoustic wasp
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most random faction oat

ivory hull
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ofc had support companies

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but yk

dry sleet
near forum
ivory hull
fierce grail
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Guys i passed!

ivory hull
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its just worse than inf

ivory hull
odd acorn
fierce grail
ivory hull
near forum
ivory hull
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otherwise not

ivory hull
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inf brick germany

dry sleet
# odd acorn and what support companies should I use?

on holding divisions, arty and/or r.arty, AA if you want some piercing or don't control air, eng if you have IC to spare, heli battalions if you have the tech (and IC to spare), hospitals if you have manpower issues

acoustic wasp
ivory hull
grave sonnet
grave sonnet
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Idk what the hell I was doing bro

acoustic wasp
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anotha one

ivory hull
grave sonnet
grave sonnet
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Same with Cossack

acoustic wasp
grave sonnet
acoustic wasp
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it will actually be a world conquest atp

grave sonnet
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I ended up fighting axis

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& cominterm

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Then the UK just decalred on me KEKW

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I won in mainland europe

acoustic wasp
grave sonnet
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I couldn't naval invade

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Because I genuinely had nothing

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So I had to paratrooper them šŸ’”

acoustic wasp
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took me a long tie

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time

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and a lot of microing

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but i just held the line with the balkan axis countries

grave sonnet
acoustic wasp
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touched netherlands

grave sonnet
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And Kill Germany

acoustic wasp
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then went down and touched france

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then moved from north to south

lofty adder
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Go to Africa

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As Germany we need colonists all world

acoustic wasp
lofty adder
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As ussr liberate countries

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From capitalists

grave sonnet
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Last*

lofty adder
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I’m yes re today get race for Germany

acoustic wasp
grave sonnet
acoustic wasp
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let them walk into warsaww

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and killed like 2m inside

grave sonnet
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History repeats itself ig

grave sonnet
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I remember seeing vids

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About bating the AI into encirclements

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Crazy stuff

lofty adder
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How get this dachievnment

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Achievement

ivory hull
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make all nations facist

acoustic wasp
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stalingrad taken

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LETS GO

grave sonnet
wet summit
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You guys think this is enough to leave the axis and fight them?
Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Peru, Venezuela

acoustic wasp
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no slavic union for me?

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helpo

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help*

steel idol
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any1 wanna play road to 56?

grizzled abyss
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Hi :)

ivory hull
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you did assert western claims

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"Cannot have this and Assert Western Claims"

acoustic wasp
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which is the focus under germany

ivory hull
acoustic wasp
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so how cant i have both but need both

acoustic wasp
ivory hull
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you sure?

acoustic wasp
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my bad

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didnt see the dotted line

ivory hull
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looks like it needs one

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yea

acoustic wasp
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idec anymore im gonna manipulate the save file

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to make it not iron man

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and fix the mistake

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lemme google how

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there must be a way

ivory hull
acoustic wasp
ivory hull
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can you vc?

acoustic wasp
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editing in notepad or something?

acoustic wasp
ivory hull
acoustic wasp
ivory hull
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go to your hoi4 folder

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go to settings.txt

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there you will find smth called save_as_binary

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turn it to off

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start your game again

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save the game

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then exit again

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edit save file

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make a backup tho

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just to be save

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then change the txt again

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and it shouldnt be ironman

acoustic wasp
acoustic wasp
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let it run for a couple weeks?

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what do i edit here?

barren spindle
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Yea bro what 😭

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Given the fact stalin is georgian this is hella funny

sudden thistle
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no mustache

ivory hull
restive sable
open echo
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@wide summit youre soo coool bro

wide summit
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do i know you?

open echo
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"erm dont join this game I dont know how to play ww1 mod so I call it crap"

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šŸ˜‚ 🫵

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you friggin chuddelite

wide summit
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erm don't join this game i know how to play ww1 and its boring asf

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its the mod not the date

open echo
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sounds like someone cant stay focused on one task

proven stratus
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67

open echo
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maybe take your ritalin and youll be able to play

lethal ether
wide summit
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you need 3 years to take poland as germany

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i bet it

open echo
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no

opal nymph
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Trench warfare isn't the most fun thing to play

open echo
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not at all

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it is

wide summit
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it isn't

open echo
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have you heard of schlieffen plan!?!

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or ludendorff offensive

pliant wadi
open echo
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or like gallipoli

pliant wadi
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gg alta

opal nymph
open echo
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or any of the easternf ront

opal nymph
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Won war in 1914

karmic vortex
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does anyone have an answer to this

opal nymph
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Game done

wide summit
opal nymph
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No trench warfare

karmic vortex
open echo
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for sure bro

lethal ether
opal nymph
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But trench warfare is annoying

open echo
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maybe youre the stalemater

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since you cant break it

wide summit
lethal ether
wide summit
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bluck is right

opal nymph
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Well, I won before they reworked germany

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Idk if it is still semi easy to win

wide summit
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he is either ragebaiting or is under the age of 10

lethal ether
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most ragebaiters are extremely immature

wide summit
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i played the mod. it sucks

lethal ether
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and take the internet too seriously due to them not having anything more interesting in their life

opal nymph
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They ruined north africa

lethal ether
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thus the conclusion is he is like 10

opal nymph
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Why is it all strait crossings

wide summit
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they want attention

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that they didn't get from thier parents

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and thats sad

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and he instantly shut off

open echo
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bro doesnt like history

scenic pulsar
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@misty fossil remember when we were talking about the fire rises the other day and i gave you that tech expansion mod

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which one was it

open echo
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he just likes german panzer division larp

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lol

wide summit
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you just can't do tanks do you?

lethal ether
wide summit
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you can't do tanks or planes so you settle for infantry spam

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do you know what larp means?

lethal ether
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thats like going to a minecraft server and insulting pickaxes or something

open echo
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bro only plays historical larp games

lethal ether
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yeah

open echo
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"I love history!" also bro only playing ww2

lethal ether
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he is like 10

lethal ether
opal nymph
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At least on a strategic level

open echo
lethal ether
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go play that

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get out ofhere

open echo
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theres no countries

wide summit
lethal ether
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bro likes gun larp

open echo
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I would do like

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a 10,000 bc tribal one

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that would be tuff

lethal ether
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"tuff"

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😭

open echo
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your name is bluck

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making fun of "tuff"

lethal ether
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i see nothing wrong with it

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do you?

open echo
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haha

opal nymph
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History "fans" when history class asks for what happened domestically during peace time

open echo
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funny guy

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bluck I dont judge you, theres a lot of chuds on this server

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its just fun to see you guys in the wild yk

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feels like a safari

lethal ether
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get out of here bro

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its a hoi4 server

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the game is litteraly built around ww2

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you dont like that then get out of here

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you cant call the game "panzer larp" or god knows whatever else youre saying

open echo
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live crashout

meager valley
# open echo "I love history!" also bro only playing ww2

It’s totally fine to have an area of expertise. Specialization is common among all fields. Like if someone is a doctor, they generally aren’t a doctor of everything but of specific fields. For a historian to only know world wars is also valid imo. As long as they have general knowledge of what got nations there

opal nymph
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I find the cold war more interesting than ww2 most of the time

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But if I say anything about it, the mods will smite me

open echo
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like right after ww1 to like 1932

uncut pollen
meager valley
open echo
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and french algerian war

meager valley
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If next paradox title that Arheo works on isn’t Cold War or Modern, I’ll be disappointed

opal nymph
opal nymph
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Will it be good, who knows

meager valley
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When would you all consider modern beginning? 2000? 1991?

meager valley
opal nymph
opal nymph
meager valley
opal nymph
acoustic wasp
meager valley
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No more BC Pls šŸ™

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They already killed Imperator before it could crawl

opal nymph
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BCE Kappa

lethal ether
scenic pulsar
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i love hoi4

meager valley
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Imperator could’ve been such a good game. Prefer it over CK3 or Victoria 3 tbh

uncut pollen
raw crystal
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It would be cool if there was a HOI4 styled game that takes place in WW1.

opal nymph
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Oh boy, the lines aren't moving

uncut pollen
split bane
opal nymph
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1000s of casualties a day and the frontline doesn't move

solid prairie
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someone wanna play?

bright sinew
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you know whatd be good

split bane
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A Cold War game would be interesting but I wonder how they would make it unique

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Without making it look like a Vicky clone

scenic pulsar
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does anyone know any good templates for tfr american civil war im playing as NSM

opal nymph
split bane
opal nymph
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Yeah

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Just do that but change it up a bit

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Btw, what are even win conditions for winning the cold war

split bane
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Well EU was based on a board game so wouldn't be too strang of PDX

opal nymph
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I doubt the US would implode

split bane
bright sinew
# bright sinew you know whatd be good

if paradox would make it to where lend leasing does not require such an over exorbitantly high cost for lend leasing respectable amounts of equipment;

it is damn near impossible as the allies for instance, to lend lease the USSR if you want to try and say, use your industrial power as the US in a more indirect way to fight the Axis(kinda like... you know, irl)

like yeah you can lend lease the convoys to them but uh...

the amount of equipment per convoy is so asinine that impossible to get enough for both you and the ussr without sacrificing on general ship output and also military output(cus you need more dockyards to build convoys)

opal nymph
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Like would a soviet victory just be they win all the proxies

bright sinew
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tldr: lend leasing needs to be rebalanced with respect to the convoy costs

sudden thistle
errant remnant
wide osprey
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yeah i do like playing mods
how did you know

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IT WAS THE MOMENT WHEN GERMANY CAPITULATED BRO

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IT WAS 1944

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AND MY SAVE IS 1942

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😭

silver dawn
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rip

lethal ether
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this is what happens when u dont play ironman!!!

wide osprey
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nah uh i'm playing with magna europa

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and germany was buffed

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😭

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30 mln losses

silver dawn
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rip

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i hate italy and yugo thats why i killed them

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before they can make my faction go to war

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oh and beacuse i wanted the italien navy

bright sinew
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would be neat if they added a little button here that let you pop out a scoreboard of the factions in the game

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maybe with some

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sexy graphs

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showing their industry vs yours

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(if you have the intel ofc)

silver dawn
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well would be cool if there would be a event where every country is showing of thair strengh, ofcorse only at peace time

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like a ranking system

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i mean its kinda a thing but u gotta go to the home menu

wide osprey
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or it's just

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exists

silver dawn
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in my option it would be great

scenic pulsar
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does anyone know how tfr templates work

silver dawn
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i am waiting for my big atack

silver dawn
scenic pulsar
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whats a good civil war template if im playing as NSM?

silver dawn
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and just read the small notes when haver over the things

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nsm?

scenic pulsar
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national socialist movement

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the second weakest one

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theyre in michigan

vernal crescent
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Generals

silver dawn
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well never did that before but when u have many people just spam

vernal crescent
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I have purchased GƶtterdƤmmerung

scenic pulsar
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just spam the base template?

silver dawn
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well when its a early civil war

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thats my template for now but its not finished

scenic pulsar
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no im talking about for tfr

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these are the base templates for tfr

silver dawn
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oh am sorry then

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dont know it

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i played that mod only once

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as a observer

scenic pulsar
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i think my best chance at winning honestly is letting patriot front carry me and then annex them in the national conference

silver dawn
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its worth a try

scenic pulsar
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so ig ill pump out these divisions even if i only have 3 people willing to fight for me

silver dawn
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well i hope that u get carried

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good luck

scenic pulsar
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ill post it if i win

scenic pulsar
jade parcel
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which co-prosperity sphere is better

silver dawn
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well is japan winning against the allais and how likly is it that the soviets atack japan?

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and which country are you playing as?

opal nymph
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Well those templates might explain why I roll over them so easily when I have played as the other factions

scenic pulsar
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what makes the whole patriot front reliance strategy so bad is that patriot front still hasnt reunified new england yet

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ive already made the national front and they still havent take the sons of liberty

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and i cant even help them because not a single inch of land in michigan has a port

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not even some shitty run down dock i can send people

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because its not like michigan is a peninsula or anything

scenic pulsar
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this stupid ass ai might actually throw me the game

buoyant flume
silver dawn
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my plan is working very well

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now greece will be my next victim

heady bison
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anyone get the paradox launcher error after the new windows update?

silver dawn
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nope

heady bison
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i reinstalled already

buoyant flume
buoyant flume
silver dawn
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i trapped the biggest part of the alleid armywith out getiinf war with them and since i want to kill the usa fast i am also going to take portugal for that i have a door into south amarica after that i am going to allai with El salvador to invade mexico

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that i can kill the usa in 1943

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and after that i am

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i love it when i can conquer with out the allais in my way

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and the ussr and me are buddies right now

scenic pulsar
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yeah i failed

silver dawn
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aboute 2 mio soldiers fighting for thair lifes

scenic pulsar
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i blame everything on the patriot front

silver dawn
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oh men

scenic pulsar
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I could take everyones armies individually by myself better than the patriot front could

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actual bums

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takes them 20 years to take out some 3 militia holdout with their 30 divisions

scenic pulsar
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idk what update the tfr devs released that made the patriot front so inept but they should revert that immediately

silver dawn
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well i am going to be a unstopbel force in my playthrough and there is nothing staying in its way

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imagine churchill after the usa has capitulated

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how the resistance had move

hearty grail
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Can smb tell me why are my units not receiving supplies?

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I literally have lvl 6 naval base that has 18 unused supply capacity while my units are not receiving any supply and starving on top of it

mystic sand
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<@&846894118219022336> Can I be un servermuted

snow rain
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open a ticket if you want to contact the moderation
then, you do realize you just typed, right ?

snow rain
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convoys come in and out every month. If a convoy run is raided, you'll need to wait for next month's run

north merlin
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hey guys, i bought the base game like 2 months ago, and now i am looking ot buy some dlcs, any recommendations? i saw a few youtubers play them, and their dlc allow them to design their own planes, tanks and ships, i would like to know the name of the dlcs for those please

hearty grail
snow rain
north merlin
snow rain
misty fossil
hearty grail
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Yeah a bit, I wouldn't care if I had yellow supply

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It's for the invasion of mainland Japan

snow rain
woeful knoll
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How does anyone like arms against tryanny

north merlin
snow rain
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AAT has MIOs, International market, Special forces doctrines and good + fun focuses for denmark, norway, finland, sweden and iceland
NSB has soviet ahist paths, tank designer, railway guns and armored trains, focuses for poland and baltic countries
La resistance has spies, french/spain/portugal focuses
GTR has ger, belgium, austria focuses and special projects
NCNS has more doctrines, focuses for china and some warlords and japan
Trial of allegiance: Focuses for Brazil, argentina, chile, urugay, paraguay
Peace for our time : Checz focus
By Blood alone : Italian, ethiopia, swiss and aussa focuses, air designer
Battle for bosphorus : focuses for bulgaria, turkey and greece
Graveyard of empires : focuses for irak, iran, afghanistan and RAJ

woeful knoll
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Arms against tryanny:
MIOs, the worst feature in the game
OK arms market
Focus trees:
Democratic: Become a gov in exile and do nothing (finland is good tho)
Communist: Unite the north and its not real communism for literally every one
Fascist: Become a german cu ck or be monarchist but with a name like skinooodak kooallmis
Monarchist: Crazy viking empire for literally every single one, not even that fun

north merlin
snow rain
# woeful knoll Arms against tryanny s BBA c...

Very disapointng air designer (promised to allow for non meta and out-of-the box designs but doesn't because if you do you get blasted off + biggest noobtrap of the game because of default or "historical" designs that suck)
Mediocre italy tree honestly I much prefered the ones done in some mods like operation overhaul back in 2019. It is bloated with useless buffs and half baked ahist paths
Swiss tree is fine even though kinda wacky
Ethiopia is boring after you push out italy, no matter the path
Aussa is niche but clearly a meme focus tree by its lenght

On the other hand, all 3 of AAT mechanics you use basically all playthroughs.
Special forces doctrines are a must if you don't want air or tanks, and it makes them actually useful and unique
MIOs bring a lack of balance, which is honestly the only reprimand I can make on that DLC, but it adds quite a lot of stuff and flavor
Market is useful in quite a lot of scenarios and easy to use
Focuses for denmark, finland and sweden are very good and actually fun to play. Nothing too wacky or convoluted. Norway is fine even though it's not the best (civgreed gaming) and iceland is a very good meme tree. Straightforward and still gives you stuff to do

And, one of the must, while BBA was meant to change significantly how to play the game (the air designer was supposed to unlock stuff based on what paradox said), AAT didn't promise any of it
AAT came out with few bugs, localization errors and didn't completely break the AI like BBA did

I can't put BBA any higher than that because of this

ripe slate
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Is the Swiss tree "fine"?

woeful knoll
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yea lol

ripe slate
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Its my least favorite tree in the game for AI doing that stupid Alps formable

snow rain
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it's not great, but it's straightforward enough

ripe slate
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Its also still buggy to this day as far as I know

woeful knoll
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idk about s aat and c bba...

oak mantle
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Salutations

woeful knoll
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but bba is mid

ripe slate
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Id easily put BftB above BBA if BBA didnt have peace actions

oak mantle
snow rain
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but I personally blame BBA for my lack of interest in ahist content which directly appeared after ethiopia adnd italy playthroughs
And I can't forgive how botched the air designer was and still is

woeful knoll
ripe slate
oak mantle
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I mean yeah

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Thats like with everything in hoi4 tho

woeful knoll
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theres 0 reason to use non light planes

oak mantle
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Theres one meta

woeful knoll
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and the strat is

oak mantle
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If you dont play the meta

woeful knoll
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put on as much as possible

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and then extra fuel tasnks

oak mantle
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Then you wont win

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Hoi5 lowkey needs to come out

woeful knoll
oak mantle
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Hoi4 sucks

woeful knoll
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its just slop

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the air designer is trash

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tank and ship designer are good

sage anvil
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hello

oak mantle
ripe slate
snow rain
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Something they could have done would have been to half the killrate, and it would have been much better already
at least you could build cheap contest planes to get yellow air

snow rain
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honestly, they are both good
the issue with tank designer is the lack of balance through doctrines (recently, with the new doctrines that basically only buff variants), lack of variety in late game light and medium armaments and the ridiculous stat buffs TDs and SPGs get through regular arty techs

but except for the lack of guns, it's not really designer-related

haughty sail
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I dont feel getting any focus dlcs

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Ngl

oak mantle
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Inter war chassis are basically the same stats as modern tank chassis

snow rain
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Naval designer is fine too and can be excused by the fact it was their first new significant mechanic introduced

oak mantle
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And the tech is like 25 years apart

oak mantle
haughty sail
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They are maybe similar in two stats

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That's it

oak mantle
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Unless you care abt reliability but if you care about reliabilty then lowkey just never talk to me again

snow rain
haughty sail
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I dont really use any tanks tbh. I like mobile art spam

north merlin
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so uh guys, rn im playing a mod and it requires man of guns dlc, and i searched it up and realized that it was integrated into the base game from update 1.17 but the mod im play is in 1.16.10, is there anyway i could get the dlc?

woeful knoll
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get the dlc

viscid mason
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hello francis

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hello fwsv

snow rain
oak mantle
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Yes but what did they actually change stat wise

snow rain
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basically winter attrition now actually kills stuff
temperature and weather give more attrition
and units retreating take way more attrition

north merlin
oak mantle
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How much we talkin

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Is there a patch note i can read

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That doesnt just say that smth is more impactful

viscid mason
timid blade
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what does reliability do anyways

oak mantle
snow rain
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that means that in MP, where you click or get clicked a lot, you retreat and go through weather more, meaning it makes the choice way more taactical : Do you still go for more early tanks and risk losing to attrition or need to mind the weather or do you take 5 months more to get a later chassis with 35% more reli to worry less

it's mainly a MP thing, but still, it's one thing they did well

viscid mason
snow rain
oak mantle
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A lot of things in hoi4 are busted

snow rain
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ger also now gets a spitfire MIO equivalent

viscid mason
snow rain
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very balanced (not)

oak mantle
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Ive stopped playing vanilla multiplayer for like 2 months now

snow rain
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I just hope the delay they took was to balance stuff out

oak mantle
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Didnt they say they were changing the division designer

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In a dev diary

viscid mason
snow rain
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it was something about regimental support companies and divisionnal support. It looked interesting in terms of possibilities

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gimme a minute, will find the devlog

viscid mason
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One concern is that it might encourage big infantry again

snow rain
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well, anyway gotta go now
good night/day

misty fossil
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oh scratch that

mystic sand
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I also had opened a ticket the day prior

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its resolved now.

misty fossil
heavy vigil
grizzled zenith
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Europoslavia

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That's the most cores Yugoslavia can get I'm pretty sure

misty fossil
heavy vigil
misty fossil
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dont tell me what to do with my money

heavy vigil
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okayy

misty fossil
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lol

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im playing with max buffed ai i think

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i would also use expert ai but it doesnt have vnr support

viscid mason
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hello casey

hushed flicker
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yo does team usa achievement have to be done with a strategic bomber or missile works too

twin nebula
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😱

warped osprey
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havent played in a while, did they buff sp AI?

woeful knoll
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yes

warped osprey
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amazing

broken gale
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We love world conquests with meme paths.

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With one exception

willow gull
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has anyone played the older HOI games

broken gale
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I tried it once

willow gull
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how bad is it

broken gale
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You can automate tons of stuff but only helps a little

willow gull
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damn

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looks so ancient

cinder parrot
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i think the ideologies need more detailing

woeful knoll
smoky prairie
woeful knoll
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Anarchism and monarchism same idioligy

cinder parrot
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trotsky deserves his own ideology

woeful knoll
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macarthur and hitler same ideliogy

smoky prairie
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Very different game. I remember having to use Hamachii to play MP games on the metaserver

cinder parrot
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hitlers ideology needs to be renamed to nazism as it was irl

woeful knoll
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it is

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national socalism is already a ideliogy

cinder parrot
woeful knoll
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if u scroll on the idelogiy screen

wet flicker
woeful knoll
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they have national socalism, anarchism etc

cinder parrot
smoky prairie
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The first 4 letters of that word spell "Nazi" hence the name

cinder parrot
woeful knoll
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thats like saying stalinism and trotskyism are a different ideliogy

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like yeah they are different

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theyre still communism

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how is nazism not fascism

cinder parrot
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i dont think it just needs to be the same thing

north merlin
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yo what dlc allows you to annex other nation's navy at the peace conference?

cinder parrot
smoky prairie
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I'll excuse myself from this conversation now, given the subject matter. You all have a good one

woeful knoll
cinder parrot
woeful knoll
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alright but its still fascism

wet flicker
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nazism is just fasicsm boosted

cinder parrot
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hell i hate using this tiny ass phone

wet flicker
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fascism with more extreme racists

woeful knoll
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Water: Liquid Water droplets: Water and small

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Still water

wet flicker
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hail hitler

cinder parrot
north merlin
woeful knoll
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exactly

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this dude is saying

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nazism isnt fascism

cinder parrot
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nazism is obscene extremism

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somehow sigrun from wolfenstein is more right about it being a subhuman ideology

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fascism and nazism are different

wet flicker
# woeful knoll nazism isnt fascism

he probably means that it was so much more amplified in germany that it ended up being seen as something totally different than italy's version of fascists too

grizzled zenith
north merlin
wet flicker
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oh

north merlin
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does this satisfy u?

woeful knoll
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or what

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what r u getting at

cinder parrot
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i want this gam to have more ideologies and not just sub ideologies

woeful knoll
cinder parrot
wet flicker
north merlin
wet flicker
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and like eugenics

cinder parrot
woeful knoll
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bro

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ur ragebaiting

north merlin
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nazism is a kind of racism

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but it also is a kind of facism

cinder parrot
wet flicker
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it just is fascism with like 3 differences at its core

north merlin
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NSDAP is facist party, period.

wet flicker
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what is the difference between fascism and nazism other than its anti-semitism, eugenic policies, and racial hierarchy that they had

cinder parrot
north merlin
woeful knoll
cinder parrot
north merlin
cinder parrot
woeful knoll
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and racism is apart of extreme nationalism

north merlin
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in a negative way

cinder parrot
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(weekly)

wet flicker
woeful knoll
cinder parrot
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a better ā€œformā€ of nationalism patriotism

north merlin
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aight are y'all gonna answer my previous question or not: what dlc lets you annex other nation's navy at peace conference???

wet flicker
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unless thats what mtg is

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then im late

wet flicker
cinder parrot
north merlin
wet flicker
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paradox be greedy

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i just got all dlc tho

north merlin
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so what does arms against tyrrany do again?

willow gull
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check the steam page

wet flicker
cinder parrot
willow gull
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& international market

wet flicker
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beating the allies before america joins the alliance is way too easy

cinder parrot
wet flicker
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there should be no way all you need is like 800 navy cas/fighter to have uk repair most of their fleet

woeful knoll
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and if the uk fell usa would def join in on historical

north merlin
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ok, rn i am buying no step back and bba, is agt really nessisary?

wet flicker
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ive never had usa join war while i naval invaded uk yet anyway though so it could just be something that i havent went through myself yet

glossy cedar
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I haven't played HOI4 since last December and my save is corrupted haHaa

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How do I play this again? 😩

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Just seeing the 1936 borders drains my energies

wet flicker
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not sure if that would uncorrupt it either tho

cinder parrot
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am i able to use bulgaria to become the worlds most uninvadable nation

glossy cedar
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It may help

cinder parrot
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i know that battle for the bosporus is needed which i have

manic fern
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Ferdinand I and his busted complaince growth

mental mantle
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Should I open this? It raises a few eyebrows but I wanna be nice to this dude

mental mantle
viscid mason
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use virustotal to scan the contents

mental mantle
viscid mason
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scan it while it is zipped

mental mantle
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It has 92 trojans

viscid mason
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yeah red flag

mental mantle
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Thank you for warning me polandball

viscid mason
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ping the offending user so the mod can ban

mental mantle
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N screenshot says no server sin common

viscid mason
maiden bolt
#

Bombing the hell out of the UK

robust swan
#

I mean, it isn't horible

robust swan
lapis snow
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Losing a BB over some dinky sub hunters is very italian

terse skiff
#

Default Italian bb designs are worse than CAs

robust swan
#

didnt even have MIO 😭

terse skiff
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Just put one

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It takes like 5 days to apply mio to a dd

scenic pulsar
#

Whats the best tutorial video to watch

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Like a general tutorial video

winter fulcrum
#

is this a good encirclement?

terse skiff
scenic pulsar
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Alr thank you

maiden bolt
#

Should i keep Bombing the F out of the Uk until They dont have anything or should i just invade them

terse skiff
maiden bolt
winter fulcrum
maiden bolt
dusky burrow
#

but that's a lot of dead troops for sure

dusky burrow
cinder parrot
#

discord talkin about sum ā€œget an email!!!ā€ phone verification

glossy cedar
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Any tips for Germany? It's been 3 months since I played and forgor everything

viscid mason