hoi4-general

[rich gulch]

Why are there no Asian minor lovers here

[limpid zenith]

now i need to fight usa for last achievement

[rich gulch]

Why are we all talking about Europe

[bitter nexus]

damnnn

[karmic viper]

NO FRICKING WAY

[lethal ether]

whered u get the things ill replicate it too lol

[small panther]

We dont speak your suspect language lol

[limpid zenith]

and do you speak this languege?

[misty fossil]

lets go filipino divisions in berlin

[zealous lynx]

Guys

Is there any good naval guide

[misty fossil]

no way

[zealous lynx]

Every time i watch a naval guide

It shows me the best meta ship designs that you want to deploy

Without telling me how to use the navy

[silver dawn]

XD

[trail delta]

Like air but more annoying /hj

[silver dawn]

u need partrolls and atack ship fleets

[grave sonnet]

Bro I genuinely never watch those

[silver dawn]

and try to build out ur naval bases

for supply

[grave sonnet]

I just paradrop 💔

When I gotta invade

[zealous lynx]

A little birdie told me i just spam 50 duodecillion submarines

[grave sonnet]

I just spam convoy

[zealous lynx]

Paratroopers are peak

[silver dawn]

i only naval invade

[grave sonnet]

🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝

[zealous lynx]

The things is

I wanna know the navy

[silver dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/battleship-warship-uss-missouri-ship-drift-gif-5252943463138854855

[zealous lynx]

I like navies

Bro boats are cool asf

[keen gazelle]

There's a shop in Japan that sells these kinds of German military uniforms, and I bought it there.

[lethal ether]

too bad im not japanese ugh

how much did u pay for allat

[zealous lynx]

But im convinced that using the navy in HOI4 is harder than actually becoming an admiral in real life and winning naval battles

[keen gazelle]

Should I teach in US dollars?

[lethal ether]

yes

[keen gazelle]

It's $510.94.

[lethal ether]

dang ok thamks

[keen gazelle]

Pants and jacket set

[zealous lynx]

All i do is put everything BUT subs in reserves and then i just spam subs and assing them to a gen

[zealous lynx]

And then i put convoy raiding

[silver dawn]

well you need atack fleets to destroy the enemys sub hunter fleets

and you need small patroll fleets to finde othere enemy fleets

and you also should try to get air superiority that ur subs and othere fleets dont get destroyed by naval bombers

[trail delta]

All that figuring out the navy made me think is "never again"

So bloody tedious

[zealous lynx]

Also how do i deploy ships

[trail delta]

By default they are deployed automatically I think

[silver dawn]

ye

[zealous lynx]

Maybe if they simplify the navy it'd be good

[silver dawn]

but u also gotta chose the home port for ur fleets

well its actully realy good in its way but its just hard to learn

[trail delta]

There's a cogwheel next to that button that toggles automatic home base selection

As I found out today

[silver dawn]

oh what

[trail delta]

Makes the pacific war a bit less painful

[silver dawn]

XD

didnt know that

[zealous lynx]

Isn't it just useful for blocking convoys and naval invasions

[trail delta]

Yeah you just need to assign a region and mission and it'll select a naval base that's in range

So useful

[lethal ether]

its nice

[trail delta]

Shore bombardments, stopping enemy naval invasions, carriers

[zealous lynx]

How do i stop enemy naval invasions

[trail delta]

I suppose the main advantage of having a navy if you don't need naval invasions is to defend against the enemy navy

[silver dawn]

u need 60% navel superiority

[trail delta]

They can't launch one if you have naval superiority over the region

[zealous lynx]

Ok

Can convoy raiding get me naval superiority

[trail delta]

And if they launch a naval invasion and then don't adequately support it you can just sink the troops

[trail delta]

I don't think so?

[zealous lynx]

Yo guys

So

[trail delta]

I know patrols can

[zealous lynx]

What does the number in the navy template mean

[trail delta]

which one?

Bottom right?

[zealous lynx]

• number +

The dot is supposed to be a minus

[trail delta]

Not sure what you are referring to ;-;

[karmic viper]

wtf

[zealous lynx]

Wdym which number

Theres 1 number

[karmic viper]

dont ask why yugoslavia asked to join me

[zealous lynx]

Naval composition

A minus a plus and a number in between

Its next to the ship icon

[terse skiff]

No it reduces enemy superiority though. Just read the tooltip

[zealous lynx]

Here

What does this number mean

[trail delta]

Ohh I thought you meant ship templates

[zealous lynx]

Same thing

[trail delta]

I never used the task force composition thing

[split bane]

I'm playing as the Soviets and are about to cap Germany so I can get the Race to Germany achievement and I just realized that the Allies took Burgenland 💔
Guess I can take my time with Germany now...

[terse skiff]

You can make naval fleet templates with that thing

[trail delta]

But I'm pretty sure it's just to adjust the number of (ship type) in the template

[zealous lynx]

Okay

Also how do i deploy ships

[trail delta]

As said, they should be deployed automatically

[terse skiff]

You select where to deploy or which fleet to deploy to in each production line

[trail delta]

Yes you can do that too of course, I just don't bother unless I'm super specific about my navy

[terse skiff]

It depends

[trail delta]

Currently playing Japan so I can just spam out a few hundred ships of every type all the time

[terse skiff]

For ussr you do want to set it or else have fun going from Leningrad to vladivostok

[trail delta]

Oh ye that makes sense

[terse skiff]

And maybe for the USA/UK to save time

[zealous lynx]

So i just produce and they deploy

[trail delta]

Yes

Though it will put them in the reserve if not set to automatically reinforce fleets I think

[sly venture]

Can someone save my game

[wide osprey]

there are only 8 weeks left for pdx to release taog 🙂 ⛈️

[trail delta]

Release what?

Kinda out of the loop xD

[wide osprey]

australia dlc

[zealous lynx]

Hey guys

Is grabbing my planes and assigning them to an army, then putting air superiority and air support good?

[sly venture]

Can anyone save it

[terse skiff]

It's better to micromanage air

Since the number of clicks isn't even that big to begin with

[zealous lynx]

Im too focused on the army

[pine pelican]

idk if its saveble

[sly venture]

micro manage if it’s a small area if you are fighting like the Soviets don’t

[terse skiff]

Trust me you're not

[sly venture]

it has to be

[zealous lynx]

What if ethiopia

[zealous lynx]

Okay but what do i micromanage

[sly venture]

micro manage

[pine pelican]

how much people are you at war with

[terse skiff]

Just tell your planes to move to an airbase and do a mission

See? It's not that much micro

[sly venture]

Allies

only

[zealous lynx]

Okay but

Is my method good

[pine pelican]

not the soviets? u didnt join

[sly venture]

Didn’t join

[terse skiff]

No

[pine pelican]

then i think the paradrops are the way

but i think u need to help with the soviets or germany will probably die

[sly venture]

I somehow got pushed out of Ireland

😭

[pine pelican]

in the latest patches i never saw germany win soviet war

[grizzled yarrow]

DUDE

THERES A SECRET FORMABLE FOR HUNGARY WHAT

[pine pelican]

are u somewhat in time with air

[sly venture]

I am playing as Luxembourg

I did not have time for air

Am trying to catch up tho

[pine pelican]

i mean getting a navy seems harder to get

[sly venture]

the ai is dumb bro they don’t use air

I paradropped into Ireland

With 20 fighters

[pine pelican]

lol

[trail delta]

Until you need to constantly move aircraft across the globe

pain

[pine pelican]

maybe try to snipe a port in the uk then

[blazing river]

the sweeden one?

[terse skiff]

He's definitely not producing enough planes for it to matter

[grizzled yarrow]

The united kingdom of hungary and romania

[pine pelican]

save before and try and retry

[sly venture]

tried but only port I can snipe is probably Newcastle

on the English Channel its field with tier 5 aa

filled*

[pine pelican]

ye you can try with north uk maybe

[sly venture]

I will go back in time

[pine pelican]

idk how many division u can divert to uk conquest

[sly venture]

to when I got France

[blazing river]

oh

[sly venture]

and get Ireland instantly

before it’s too late

[trail delta]

Yeah okay fair enough

[pine pelican]

ireland a good place to paradrop nice

[trail delta]

I got about 30k to juggle 😭

[sly venture]

then I will paradrop into west uk

[blazing river]

oh

so not the sweeden one

[misty fossil]

peak

[pine pelican]

ye the thing is to invade the fastest way possible before they come back to uk

[sly venture]

yea if I get Ireland my troops will get to uk very fast

[sly venture]

1 tank per 50 years

[winged field]

what a chud

[pine pelican]

do you mind share the td template

[proud quarry]

has anyone else noticed the linux port of hoi4 running like geniune shit

[winged field]

isnt that like with most linux games?

that arent from 2000s

[proud quarry]

no

[winged field]

I tried linux and that thing is interesting ig

[proud quarry]

?? wdym

[terse skiff]

Yikes are modern tanks bad

[pine pelican]

never really reached that far to use modern tanks, i get really bored when game start running slow

[terse skiff]

Modern tanks are the worst chassis. Don't use them unless for memes

[misty fossil]

yeah

cant mount secondary cannons

just stick to basic heavy

im doing a meme run anyway

[pine pelican]

ye i use heavys

[winged field]

I tried running like a web game on it and the perfomance was so bad.

[misty fossil]

the renowned filipino navy

[pine pelican]

saw people doing heavys with low releability, is it good to?

[winged field]

Idk if there are command for like optimization stuff and so but i dont want to deal with that

[safe wing]

why is the Philippine army led by cats

[proud quarry]

what web game im so confused

[winged field]

reliability is not important if you are not sending your tanks to like mountains

[proud quarry]

what distro too

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/905477078286209094/1237092208520335473/qIFw2xe3.gif

[winged field]

Like roblox etc.

[safe wing]

it would be cat-astrophic to fight them 🥁

[winged field]

idk I was young and tried someones linux and I was like wow

[pine pelican]

oh no he got the unique general cats mod!

[proud quarry]

roblox should run better on linux. me and my friend tested it he has a 9070xt and a much better cpu compared to mine a 3060 and ryzen 7 5700x, he also has double my ram (he has 32gb) and my game was running roughly 1.9-2x better than his XD

[pine pelican]

i wanted a mod that changed all potraits into cats, sadly couldnt find it

[winged field]

Mine was probably like scuffed or something xD, Imma try it at some point again ig

[proud quarry]

XD its really good and depending on how much you really care, much much better than windows in many aspects

[winged field]

Ig the most anoyying thing on windows are so many system processes, like wdym I have 40%ram usage at start 😭

[misty fossil]

600 hp mech div

😭

[remote storm]

he hacked my friends discord game watch out boosted uk player

[zealous lynx]

Is making albania puppet good as italy hoi4

[blazing river]

what is the bottom right support company'

[trail delta]

I finally planned a nuclear raid...and they're instantly cancelled ;_;

Sigh

[grizzled yarrow]

The united kingdoms of hungary and romania is all i ever wanted.

[karmic vortex]

How do i fix my multiplayer lobby where the player screen cannot be removed

(me and my friend are experiencing that)

we cant get the lobby ui off

[sly venture]

the fall of ireland

[misty fossil]

Self propelled super heavy arty

[blazing river]

oh

[uncut wraith]

dude i know for a fact the ai hacks but i can't prove it

[karmic vortex]

HOW DO I FIX MULTIPLAYER
-when we start we get stuck in a lobby screen
-it says eachother is not ready (Shows im not ready for him, shows hes not ready for me)
-sometimes i cant join and it says connection timed out

[robust swan]

navy

[sly venture]

how it feels like using last stand until the main forces arrive

[normal trellis]

Are there any good mods for extra ideologies?

[sly venture]

I AM BEING CASSED TO DEATH GERMANY DO SOMETHING

[karmic vortex]

DEADASS HOW DO I FIX MULTIPLAYER

[daring tangle]

Hmm, I would love to see a dlc or mod, that introduces like big scale espionage like the kgb, mi6, and similar

[stoic pendant]

whos gonna tell him? 😭

[daring tangle]

You perhaps?

[stoic pendant]

the french dlc

its not what you want fully

but it has espionage

[daring tangle]

What is that? I'm the biggest noob rn

[daring tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-heres-my-card-here’s-my-card-card-take-my-card-gif-5650338825958178904

[terse skiff]

La resistance

[stoic pendant]

La Résistance

[terse skiff]

But like the game main menu literally has a French flag with that dlc

[stoic pendant]

if you like hoi4, you should get all of the dlcs

but start with no step back

@daring tangle

[normal trellis]

?

[stoic pendant]

dont think so

[daring tangle]

Is it recommended to buy the dlc subscription to just like try out the dlcs, and then buy the ones I liked?

[karmic vortex]

Does hoi4 multiplayer depend onr egions?

WHen i hosted the server my friends got kicked out when the game started and it showed them as not ready

and when they hosted it it worked for both of them

and i got kicked out when the game started

i tried rejoining and it just kept saying connection timed out and the server no longer appeared

[stoic pendant]

depends

[ripe slate]

You can do that yeh

Personally I think I probably wouldnt have bought GoE or the south american one if I could just try them for 1-2 months

I really didnt play those countries all that often

Same with Battle for the Bospherus but there I would absolutely buy it just so if I play someone central european, the targets there are more interesting

[arctic mauve]

guys new tank in hoi4

[vapid quartz]

sprocket nice!

90285271635369993 all dlc if anyone wants to join?

[sly venture]

LUXEMBOURG GAMING

[arctic mauve]

thank u

[grizzled zenith]

And now it's almost a Czechoslovak WC

[sly venture]

GGS

GGS

[robust swan]

its finally over, I own the seas

[shadow gyro]

Are y'all in the Triple Entente or the Triple Entente?

[vital cove]

triple entente but its just russia alone

very triple

[ember vine]

Im so cooked

Btw why do my supplies go down if all my divisions have a supply hub nearby and I have enough trains

I'm just controlling my core states in Poland no occupied

[woeful knoll]

"AI doenst cheat"

[woeful knoll]

dude what country are you

[queen otter]

whats thebest navy or ships to build to defeat usa

[ember vine]

Latvia-Belarus

[woeful knoll]

as what

[woeful knoll]

mod?

[queen otter]

japan

[ember vine]

No mod

You can literally do Latvia Belarus in vanilla

[woeful knoll]

dont declare on us, beat allies, which u can do in this game for some reason, allies should be easy to beat with ur navy, but while ur doing that just make a lot of the highest quality ships

then fight them with one big super high quality stack\

[queen otter]

ok

[snow rain]

<@&846894118219022336>
In all channels

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[woeful knoll]

<@&846894118219022336>

[uncut pollen]

When you see that one pinged

Why ping twice?

[sly venture]

I can beat the allies as Luxembourg but can’t do sea lion as Germany

[woeful knoll]

U should have done the germany fractured mode

and get german cores

[sly venture]

Is that a mod

[woeful knoll]

nah in the game rules

if u fracture germany

luxemborg can form germany

[vital cove]

? this is the player

[woeful knoll]

oh

[shadow gyro]

I'll have you know that half of Lithuania is also there

[winter fulcrum]

peak soviet gameplay

[unreal mica]

Guys is it possible to unite south America as patagonia in kaiserreich

Not kaiserredux

Kaiserreich

[keen pebble]

why am i not gaining any naval dominance

its stuck at 67

[hexed jasper]

I am 2 hours in of playing the game when am I pro?

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[keen pebble]

very helpful thank you 55

[willow gull]

when will challenges open back up ?

[spiral sphinx]

democratic japan so cool

[shell sorrel]

Anyone have any recommendations for minor powers to play in not the Allies? Singleplayer, I have about 250hrs in game but I'm pretty dogshit. All DLCs

[spiral sphinx]

i would just play smth you never played before

[fair horizon]

what ships are patrolling there?

subs dont make good patrol ships

you need like 2-3 cruisers or some destroyers and some cruisers

[shell sorrel]

I haven't messed with most of the balkans or baltics

Anything there that stands out for a fascist or unaligned path?

[fair horizon]

baltics are great on paper but suck in practice if you dont align with germany or russia

[shell sorrel]

I'd definitely align with one or the other

I just don't really want to align with the allies this time, most of my "successful" runs have been that

[fair horizon]

do fascist baltic union and align with russia

[shell sorrel]

starting as whom to get that?

[spiral sphinx]

well if you want something hard you can try non alligned chile

[shell sorrel]

I do not want something hard lmao I'm pretty ass

[fair horizon]

im not sure whos the best but id pick lithuania

[shell sorrel]

bet

[spiral sphinx]

slavic union as poland can be good too

[shell sorrel]

🇱🇹 RAAAAAAAH

[vapid quartz]

my romani tank destroyer

[arctic mauve]

I mean

how long have you been palying?

[vapid quartz]

i had the game for 1.5 year but played 26 hours 🙁

[arctic mauve]

I larp that this is the tank i have has interwar light SPG

like ingame in hoi4

[weak canyon]

Hey does someone know why germany is staying the military junta everytime? I started 10 new rounds and it always happens again :/

[spiral sphinx]

how long do u play?

[weak canyon]

1939

and above

[fair horizon]

Because it has to do that path for non-fascist governments

[pliant sorrel]

hi guys im new

[sly venture]

imagine being Germany you are losing against ths ussr fighting a 3 front war but all of a sudden small little Luxembourg comes and capitulates the allies capitulates Spain then Portugal cause why not and then comes and counter attacks from war saw to Moscow

[woeful knoll]

no its a real bug

if u turn on non hist ai and dont manually select the germany path

they will stay as the german military junta

and not do anything

[chilly trout]

figthing in the far east gotta be a fate worst than death do y'all got any tip to take central asia?

[woeful knoll]

what mod it this

[chilly trout]

vanilla sinkian

[chilly trout]

i only have graphic mod

[woeful knoll]

Genuinely what happened here

[stoic pendant]

how do you make these?

or where did you find them?

[arctic mauve]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1674170/Sprocket/

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Price

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11645

[chilly trout]

non historical chaos❤️

[stoic pendant]

ty

[icy lion]

Navy is easy in this game

1. play as uk
2. Put all ur surface ships in one task force
3. Click on red
4. Profit

[willow gull]

light recon tanks in space marines? yea or no

[raw crystal]

When doing Space Marines I like using Medium Anti Air Tanks because they shoot down enemy planes as well as giving the divisions lots of armor.

[honest hollow]

why are my divisions gettingg supply when there are like 5 supply hubs around them

[north merlin]

so uh im playing romania and i js can't get my fleet out of the black sea, anyone have any idea what the problem is? it js stops at istanbul and turns around, and yes i control all the nations in that area

[lapis snow]

acquire trains, build hubs and railways behind your front

[lapis snow]

too many concentrated in individual provinces, supply is distributed from hubs to provinces and you're overstacking massively

[silver dawn]

so u also control istanbul?

[shrewd jasper]

Hello

[glacial fog]

Ye bro we losing

[lapis snow]

no supply and shitty template

also red air (expected)

[glacial fog]

I am beginner anyway just learning

How can I make my air attack?

[lapis snow]

stop training them and put them on an air mission

[glacial fog]

Alr

[hard depot]

"Manage your arms industry"

I thought this was AAT

What's "Manage your arms industry do?"

[eternal timber]

can i save ??

or is it over

[north merlin]

yes

[winter fulcrum]

literally says

[grizzled zenith]

China has been at full points to become free for like 6 years now, is there anything I can do to make it become independent or is this WC is cooked?

[hard depot]

That's the same shit as AAT

[opal nymph]

You have fun skoda mechanics

You get buffs if you let them specialize

[hard depot]

How fun we talking

[opal nymph]

And you can switch if needed

[opal nymph]

Completely ignorable

You can switch literally once and you have access to most of the industry tree

Switching has the penalty of dropping specialization to 1, and then it builds back up

Production cost reductions are nice

[silver dawn]

i have 165 of these tank divisions

[jade parcel]

im playing paraguay and i capitulated bolivia should i puppet them or annex them what benefits me

im just gonna annex

[willow gull]

france needs an update man

the focus tree is so garbage

[warm falcon]

at what world tension can democrats guarantee?

25% right?

[willow gull]

& by the time you get the fourth research slot wars already started

[warm falcon]

so why can france guarantee poland at 20% world tension

[willow gull]

it’s different with poland

[warm falcon]

and hows that with lithuania?

italy and uk guarantees them without having the world tension ever over 25%

[terse skiff]

They're horrible

[warm falcon]

13% world tension, uk is guaranteeing the czechs, i cant do this with this stupid shit

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/benny-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-what-in-the-goddamn-confusion-gif-24924085

[cedar monolith]

turning into a good time for everyone

[lapis snow]

MBT with LT so this is late game and still using LTs?
motor instead of mech
motor arty when the tanks are the arty
basic supports instead of good tank supports like hospitals, assault engis and flame tanks

wzh

[opal nymph]

Oops! No org!

[uncut wraith]

the french focus tree is goated what are you on about

bro hates copius amounts of free factories

although the "french union" focus is annoying and i changed the game files for the colonies to always accept cuz it's bs that it's a flat percentage for acceptance

[opal nymph]

We have a historical path that handicaps you
Alt democratic which is alright
Communist paths which are mediocre
Fascist paths that are mediocre
1 good monarchy path, 2 duds

[uncut wraith]

actually now that i think about it it is rather annoying that you can't really get rid of all the debuffs

[opal nymph]

Your research slots are locked behind a bunch of "empty" 70 day focuses

Your air and navy trees are to be ignored

Since you have to fix everything else

Your navy and air trees are the same ones from 2016

Back when the political tree was like 4 focuses per path

[uncut wraith]

yeah that's true especially if you rush the research slots you miss out on a bunch of the aforementioned free factories

i think the usa tree needs way more of a rework though cuz the usa tree sucks

[split bane]

Honestly, how does barely anybody have the propaganda achievement for the Soviets?
I got 30 propaganda things in 1943

[opal nymph]

US tree just lacks the military and production buffs other majors have

I wouldn't say it is the worst tree

Definitely needs some improvement

[woeful urchin]

hi

can i talk to someone?

[jade parcel]

garrison is costing me too much manpower should i make puppets

[fair horizon]

Nah just get the compliance up

Cheapest medium you can make with a different equipment tag division

[foggy scaffold]

I wouldve played hoi4 today.

I lacked energy to do soo

Such a tiring day

[terse skiff]

Switch to local police force

[snow plaza]

how to learn hoi4

[supple summit]

yo lads rn looking at the fascist chinese tree and it looks like complete dogshit I cant tell if its good or not as all I see is just beefing with everyone else. And with the sad supply there is no way on conquering them all early

[supple summit]

I mean start as a major

preferably either Britain, America or germany

but russia and italy works too

I mean depends on your defenition of tutorial

if it means watching a video then yes

if you mean being taught in any form

it would take an incredible amount of time

but its possible

i wouldnt recommend it though

[misty fossil]

No

[foggy scaffold]

Alternatively watching a video

[quasi viper]

When will Paradox have Egypt start off as independent with content to be plated?

[supple summit]

knowing paradox they will probably make a dlc for it

[quasi viper]

I am surprised that Palestine got to start off as free before Egypt

[foggy scaffold]

Would Egypt not be the same colour as britain.

[supple summit]

fuh nah

look at the raj, canada, australia

[foggy scaffold]

Then the stupid ass puppet nations with the same ass colours that dont get removed even if you puppet them.

[supple summit]

probably

[woeful urchin]

ok i'll shut up and die

[supple summit]

lowk not even hating but why is there so much furries in hoi4

[foggy scaffold]

Ah yes I puppet the raj, oh look at that it still has the union jack in the corner!

Obviously wonderful!

[foggy scaffold]

And femboys if you count it.

[supple summit]

fair

[foggy scaffold]

But lowkey like ive seen so many images and memes of femboy stuff and how to lure one into a trap and theres always HOI4 and war thunder there

But of course I had to be one who plays both.

Stereotypical.

[supple summit]

I understand warthunder as literally every femboy and furry there for some reason has racks of money where they just get out of their ass somehow but hoi4?

[supple summit]

h

[foggy scaffold]

Idk bout hoi4 but

Idek 😭

[supple summit]

lowk random

[foggy scaffold]

If you think about it.

Hoi4 and war thunder.

[supple summit]

?

[foggy scaffold]

Many people both play the same game.

When I say im in a war thunder community that has HOI4 in the thing too

Theres a lot.

[supple summit]

only reason why i dont play warthunder is because of the grind i already sold my soul to paradox i dont have another one for the snail

[foggy scaffold]

War thunder took my energy out of me already :3.

[supple summit]

h

[foggy scaffold]

Especially the German grind ohhhh

I started it like 5 months ago..

[supple summit]

when i first started playing warthunder i started as the swedish in air

and lowk it was not bad

just got repetitive

[foggy scaffold]

I dont play air at ALL

[supple summit]

fair

swedish tanks have paper for armour but strong ass cannons for some reason

traded defense for armour

bruh

offense*

[ivory garden]

well well well

[foggy scaffold]

Thr amount of TIMES i got killed by a Swedish tank.

Makes me want to smash my head into a wall

[supple summit]

is this a mod?

[ivory garden]

the graphics yea

[supple summit]

valid

[supple summit]

the ai actually did a good peace deal????

[foggy scaffold]

Its

Historical historical

But

Well jst historical

[supple summit]

?

historical does that now?

[misty fossil]

No :(

[foggy scaffold]

Id hope so.

Id actually hope so.

[woeful urchin]

yes

[supple summit]

if it did then paradox atleast did smth good

❤️

[ivory garden]

???

[foggy scaffold]

I dont think

[supple summit]

swapped sides once more

[foggy scaffold]

Ai will always be bad.

[supple summit]

fair

[foggy scaffold]

Especially in peace deals.

[foggy scaffold]

Oh yea lets give south africa Sweden when they did nothing in the war!

Said britain.

[supple summit]

valid

[supple summit]

round 3

[foggy scaffold]

Ah yes, lets give JAPAN a piece of the rhineland!

That makes total SENSE

Oh, Chinese London? Alright!

[supple summit]

I mean its lowkey goated

its just their brand atp

[foggy scaffold]

The day the ai gets good is the day I die.

[foggy scaffold]

Why no scripted ww2 ending.

Like

[ivory garden]

faction with ussr

[foggy scaffold]

Please for the love of god

[supple summit]

sexy

[foggy scaffold]

If its historical.

PLEASE

But even if I play the soviets and get the event to do thag stupid conference thing I forgot name of

It still doesn't do correct borders

[ivory garden]

i just civilwar and go sssr

[serene jewel]

Hi

[foggy scaffold]

I would

Like

If

Scripted peace deals

Theres many I can think of

[green magnet]

is this good to defend coastline (mainly the brits)?

[jade parcel]

maybe if i had the dlc

[serene jewel]

how to open focues tree is there a shortcut?

[jade parcel]

Q

and then theres the focus option

[serene jewel]

ty

[wild bay]

Is this a mod?

Honor and Liberty?

[jade parcel]

no its vanilla

[willow gull]

LIAR

[steel spear]

Germany had a war goal on the USSR, didnt declear war on them, kicked me from their faction and decleared war on me instead

[willow gull]

i mean it’s pretty lore accurate to me

[steel spear]

im playing non historical and this has only been historical

Its fine, Qing China with me

everytime i dont play poland, germany goes democtaatic

but when i go as any country germany attacks in their historical path

germany goes with that path

the game hates me

[cedar coral]

laaaaarrrrppppp

[steel zephyr]

france 🤤

[winter fulcrum]

what country are u

[steel zephyr]

poland-romania

[winter fulcrum]

ahh

[next goblet]

Anyone trying to play old world blues with me?

I'm trying to run brotherhood of steel stuff

[queen torrent]

what the hell

[mystic sand]

@viscid ember known hacker

[steel zephyr]

Germany attacking ANYBODY but me 😢

[steel spear]

whole world mad bro

[steel spear]

germany isnt attacking anyone but me bro

[steel zephyr]

the time I'm actually feeling competant with my poland run germany just bluffs danzig 😢

[steel spear]

🥲

i get u bro

[steel zephyr]

son what is germany ddoing 😢

making the faction that i'm wanting to fight even bigger

ok im strking germany

[steel spear]

bro

Im getting attacked from the south, west, east and north

somehow still alive

[uncut wraith]

ncns is the worst update that has ever happened to hoi4

WHY does it take 40 days to plan a 3 div naval invasion

at least let me do the invasion early with some debuffs instead of making me wait

i’m tired of these anti fun mechanics bruh like you should not be forcing anything onto the player

[steel spear]

flexing ur game

[steel zephyr]

striked first

[hard depot]

I did had to wait 45 days for 18 divisions

[steel spear]

wanna see my polish game rn

[steel zephyr]

boom

[steel spear]

still holding somehow

i capped

WHAT IS THIS PEACE

I BECAME SMALLER BUT IM SURROUNDED BY GERMANY

THATS STILL MY ENEMY

This game is so good

[steel zephyr]

1940 - rhineland falls to the poles...

WHAT is this german surrender limit

true endsieg...

[jade parcel]

they are selling

[worldly sonnet]

What kinda templates do you use to build those divisions?

[steel zephyr]

total german delarp

[steel zephyr]

they're actually pretty terrible for offence

terrible but worked for germany

[worldly sonnet]

Ohhh

Did you build civs or mils earlier on?

[solemn hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-steal-wallet-theft-thief-gif-8041312967434273256

[steel zephyr]

civs

made sure to do factory focuses first too

after research slot and peasant strike

[wild bay]

Lol

[hollow cedar]

hey, i want to give millineium dawn a try, but there's plenty of them, which one should i sub to, from the steamworkshop?

[wild bay]

This is only of hoi4

Bruh

[hollow cedar]

"general"

in general

[wild bay]

Hoi4-general

[hollow cedar]

i checked #modding it seems more like people are talking about how to mod

so should i go ask in #off-topic which is not even hoi4 anymore?

[lapis snow]

I've read this about 10 times and still don't understand. What do you mean there are plenty of MDs?

MD is one mod

[hollow cedar]

and there's plenty of sub mods, and idk if they are "necessary" or just optional

[lapis snow]

I think it's fairly obvious which one is the main mod, no? And submods are completely optional

[hollow cedar]

im not familiar, therefore there's chances it could be "impersonated", just want to make sure

[lapis snow]

impersonated?

[hollow cedar]

im just saying, you never know

[lapis snow]

baffling

[misty fossil]

like copied

thats fair though

its a bit confusing

[lapis snow]

I think the subtitles kind of give it away

and the author names

[misty fossil]

bold to assume hoi4 players can read

[trim plume]

finding a hoi4 player that is capable of reading is like finding the most talented person ever in a country where everyone is poor and nobody has education and their living situation is actually in the gutters

theres just no way

[untold cove]

this reminded me of the movie "idiocracy"

[trim plume]

idiocracy is a documentary

[untold cove]

i thought it cant be a documentary when i saw terry crews in it

tHaTS 67.42 DolLaRs wOrTH of dEmOcrAcy

[trim plume]

67.420 cents

[untold cove]

na that would be 71.20 dollars

[misty fossil]

hm

[untold cove]

holy

can i see that in division designer

[untold cove]

my brain cant comprehend 12 support company division

also holy production cost

[thick vector]

I am very confused why when using imperial Germany my troops are more or less strong if the German army is stronger?

[atomic grove]

wdym

the german civil war?

[untold cove]

can yall suggest me a challenge for today

in vanilla please

[dry sleet]

Congo African conquest

[untold cove]

conquer all africa using congo?

[dry sleet]

yep

[untold cove]

let me give it a try

alright we are in for a good time

[rain loom]

navy is maybe doable

this chonker may cook

[untold cove]

holy production cost

[true oar]

Notice how he has the materials to build it

[rain loom]

im not meant to?

gimme all of em

[true oar]

ok wtf

[rain loom]

i love japan focus tree

[true oar]

how do you have like 200 free metal

[rain loom]

uhh

i dont

i love having no steel

[true oar]

It would be red on the cost thing tho

[rain loom]

that is a lie

i have steel

but not enough apparently

[untold cove]

bro quit trading aluminium and rubber

seeing yellow text causes neuron activation

[rain loom]

i get from puppet

so free

[dry sleet]

TBh the fact that in 2026 you cannot automate trade is ridicolous

[untold cove]

oh

[hollow copper]

You trade resources because you need them for production

I trade resources because I want a specific nation to have more factories

We're not the same

[untold cove]

peak belgian congo gameplay

[rain loom]

such congo

soon

[hollow copper]

Congo superpower by 2036, trust

[untold cove]

why do you need so much ships

[rain loom]

bulgaria superpower by 2040

[rain loom]

im japan

[untold cove]

so

[rain loom]

so u know how there was a war in the pacific

that needs ships

[true oar]

Annexed or civil war before those even finish

[rain loom]

to be won

[untold cove]

so thats why i keep getting naval invaded as france

[rain loom]

uhh yep

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[rain loom]

wait

who is invading u by sea

[untold cove]

japanase sometimes land on vietnam

by naval invasion instead of land warfare

tonkin or something

i aint giving it to them

[true oar]

How is japan invading eurofrance

[untold cove]

they demand tonkin and i dont give it so they declare war

[rain loom]

dang

[untold cove]

i messed with so many game rules i dont even remember

[rain loom]

well

[untold cove]

democratic japanase empire typa shi

[rain loom]

what

[fair horizon]

ships cool

[rain loom]

this

also

is 5k planes good to take on india and southeast?

[untold cove]

sounds enough to me

only fighters and close air support?

[rain loom]

aight

[rain loom]

and like 200 nav bombers

they blow up more ship

[true oar]

No

[rain loom]

along with super heavy ship

[untold cove]

you can have naval bombing by cas, why do you build naval bombers

[true oar]

Navy is dumb

[rain loom]

for the funny

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/navy-gif-23823168

[rain loom]

i have 73 oil

[fair horizon]

carrier naval bombers get naval patrol so you dont have to build anything for spotting

[rain loom]

that should be enough

[untold cove]

i never use carriers so yall have fun ig

[rain loom]

ive never done navy before

[true oar]

Carriers are half the reason i bother with navy bruh

[rain loom]

so i wont be having fun

[untold cove]

depends on the country

as german reich, you dont need to build a single ship after you capitulate france or uk

[fair horizon]

no carriers? smh

italy main frfr

[untold cove]

im not an italy main

[true oar]

i cant beat france w/o naval invasion as italy

is that a skill issue or what

[untold cove]

i never tried beating france as italy

i assume you already tried striking at the same time with germany

[fair horizon]

you dont build carriers and yet arent an italy main? russia main spotted

[true oar]

even if I attack early the battle lasts for absolutely ages until germany eventually invades

bc the damn mountains

[untold cove]

my main is german reich

or turkey

[heavy vigil]

vendrip !!!

[untold cove]

try having more mountaineer divisions with special forces doctrines?

have a small strike force to breakthrough, then pour your main army inside france

[true oar]

even with mountaineers I can never get past the mountains

i have to naval invade bc the mountains are so ridiculously annoying

[untold cove]

let me give it a try, i already got bored of that damn congo challenge

bruh its just cities skylines

all ive been doing is building stuff

[true oar]

its prolly just a skill issue

im terrible at hoi4

[untold cove]

me too

[rain loom]

not as bad as me

trust

i have 2k hours and still cant do stuff

[true oar]

i have 300~ hours on the game

so alot less

[rain loom]

ye

and im terrible

[true oar]

i only ever play as italy

bc its easy

[rain loom]

fair enough

[untold cove]

imo germany is easier

[winter fulcrum]

u must be pretty good at it then

[rain loom]

i mean italy is relatively hard

[winter fulcrum]

yeah

[rain loom]

like navy

and rome

and other stuff

[winter fulcrum]

for me its somewhat easy its just annoying asf to do because on historical you cant lose non-cores OR cores

[true oar]

well the tutorial said italy is easy so I learned to play italy

[winter fulcrum]

wait you played the tutorial?

what does it teach u

[untold cove]

it does teach u to not trust in it

[winter fulcrum]

i didnt play it lowk

[untold cove]

i remember being pushed to my limits

just to conquer ethiopia

and i failed because ethiopia joined allies and capitulated before they could call anyone in

so game softlocked

[rain loom]

YES YES YES YES YES

[untold cove]

is that fascist america im seeing

also congrats on taking on the pride of the fleet

[rain loom]

I’m happy

Thx

[rain loom]

Nop

Historical

[pine pelican]

i would just spam some more destroyers

[rain loom]

yeah but us navy go bye bye their whole fleet is destroyers now

[pine pelican]

ye fairs

did you already fight british navy?

[woeful urchin]

hey can i ask something

[untold cove]

go on

[woeful urchin]

so uh for mod ideas i got two stupid ones

[lapis snow]

https://jkhub.org/dontasktoask/

[woeful urchin]

one being 1984 in the modern day

the other being a alternate ww2 where japan won and germany lost

both equally stupid ideas

[untold cove]

bro was waiting for this moment

[trim pike]

I have a question about this

[trim pike]

Tbh i routinely do http://dontasktoask.com when i can

Its a very often problem

[woeful urchin]

and this is for mod ideas

ideas i think are stupid

[untold cove]

its my first time seeing this in my 6 years of discord usage

[untold cove]

no idea is stupid

everyone thought graham bell was stupid until phones became common

everyone thought bill gates was stupid until computers became common

or something like that

guys coach is right ahh messages

[woeful urchin]

i mean

anyone familar with mod stuff i can talk to

[untold cove]

try #modding

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-waiting-cereal-eating-cereal-dead-gif-25969021

[untold cove]

chat is perpetual

we all come and go

but chat is eternal

[rain loom]

nope

its sitting somewhere

[misty fossil]

the philippines grows

[untold cove]

turkey's cortisol levels: 📈 📈 📈

bro has a frickin cat as a field marshall

[fair horizon]

wheres bingus

also no gumbus?

no jinx?

fake cat enjoyer

doesnt even have luna the crunchy cat

[misty fossil]

whats that

send me that mod

diabolical focus

[untold cove]

when is deforestation update in hoi4

[thick vector]

Of course

[wide osprey]

we don't need focus for the things we can build by ourselves 🥀

[untold cove]

and its a 70 day focus 🥀 🥀

[wide osprey]

2016 design 🥀

[untold cove]

paradox should really increase the number of 35 day focuses

[lilac ginkgo]

They are

[untold cove]

some countries still have a large amount of 70 day focuses

[lilac ginkgo]

old ones yes

[untold cove]

they are tiny but they are there

first of all, glorious lithuania of course

[lilac ginkgo]

the French focus tree is made 90% of 70 day focuses because it hasjt been updated in years

But new focus trees have more 35 day ones

[untold cove]

and this is an unfair advantage imo

[lilac ginkgo]

depends

in mp hell yes,thats why most people for historical ww2 use rt56 and a focus speedup mod

Because otherwise itd be hell for old countries

romania literally has a like 7 year old focustree and its unplayable

[untold cove]

there are focus speedup mods?

dang

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah like

1.5x instead of 1 so 70 days are like 55 and 35 like 20

for focuses I mean

they re a bit shorter

theres mods for everything in this game

[untold cove]

i never modded the game but now i know i must

[lilac ginkgo]

I had a mod that replaced hitlers portrait with a drunk goat ontop of some mountain

you can literally add anything to the game

[lilac ginkgo]

How many hours

u got

[untold cove]

like 200 300

[lilac ginkgo]

try mods

trust me

[real oar]

road to 56 expanded with ragnarok created this

[lilac ginkgo]

start with kaiserredux

[untold cove]

https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330

[untold cove]

aight then

[grave sonnet]

1 G?!

Holy shit bro 😭

[real oar]

yes

[lilac ginkgo]

imo best mod

[grave sonnet]

I mean considering it's Ragnarok

[real oar]

25 hours on one save

[untold cove]

what the hell is even g

gigillion?

[real oar]

bilion

[grave sonnet]

Holy dedication

What's the map looking like?

[untold cove]

was it that world war 1 mod

[real oar]

wait let me turn on the game again

[grave sonnet]

Bet

[lilac ginkgo]

Its a what if Germany won ww1

[untold cove]

even better

[lilac ginkgo]

the start date is 1936 and everything economy army etc is almost the same as vanilla

And it has a ton of crazy focuses

[untold cove]

like?

[lilac ginkgo]

Give me a country

[untold cove]

germany

[lilac ginkgo]

Ok so

[grave sonnet]

Best mod ever

Nothing will ever top it

[lilac ginkgo]

Germany has normal paths ig but german Africa for example

Going can take over mittleafrika

Herman goring

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

wassup

[lilac ginkgo]

And then if Africa collapses he'll form a state with his own name

And kill a bunch of local people

[untold cove]

göringia

[lilac ginkgo]

For no reason

[lilac ginkgo]

Yes

[real oar]

will take a while hold on

[untold cove]

lore accurate hermann göring

[grave sonnet]

Herman goring being Herman goring

[grave sonnet]

Yeah I get it dw I can wait lol 😭

[grave sonnet]

Lore accurate Colonial Officer

They will kill random ppl because why not

[untold cove]

it was kaiserredux, right?

[real oar]

this as i didn't took much to maximalize amount of kills possible

still it can go to 2 billion

[lilac ginkgo]

The usa can have lots of paths too

[real oar]

i gave cores for france and uk so my pc won't just hang itself at night

[grave sonnet]

Great job bro crazy KD

[real oar]

i could lose less people tho but thank you!

[lilac ginkgo]

You could be the kkk,some wizards,or even a mafia controlled government

[grave sonnet]

Ofc ofc keep it up

[grave sonnet]

Mafia Sicily is best

[real oar]

i will i want to see if 2 billion is possible

[untold cove]

do turkey have any strange paths

[lilac ginkgo]

Al capone for president

[untold cove]

since germany won ww1, that means ottomans won too

[lilac ginkgo]

You could be the Ottoman federation

[lilac ginkgo]

They win but they re weak

[grave sonnet]

Ez you can do it

[real oar]

yep!

[lilac ginkgo]

You can also become a german dictatorship

[real oar]

should be easy to do

[lilac ginkgo]

As ottomans

[untold cove]

wow

[grave sonnet]

Have fun

[real oar]

thank you!

[grave sonnet]

[untold cove]

wow what a peaceful environment

im sure these people are so calm during the game too

[grave sonnet]

Give it a couple of seconds until a mrbeast scam pops up

[lilac ginkgo]

and u can crown wilhelm

[untold cove]

i heard about that

[lilac ginkgo]

as the Ottoman leader

[gaunt garden]

One cool thing that would be kinda complex in hoi4 (not expecting this to happen)is a Yugoslav or polish dlc,like theres no like chetniks vs partisans kinda thing in the game that happened irl not happening in the maps,like for some reason you can pick Tito as a army commander as the kingdom of Yugoslavia,I mean like this removes the whole thing about Tito's Yugoslavia liberating itself,there should be a focus while capitulated to pick the chetniks or partisans and try to liberate yourself while fighting the opposing side,as the chetniks you can bring the king or become a military junta,as partisans you become communist join the Comintern or make the non aligned movement,I know this would be very hard to do and alot of work so I'm not expecting this to happen,it would be cool tho

[untold cove]

most peaceful disagreement happening in balkans

[noble garden]

Yall is my garisson good?

[lilac ginkgo]

Or just do a balkan revamp

[gaunt garden]

Even better

The Balkans were very important in the world war

[lilac ginkgo]

We need balkan focuses

[untold cove]

why so many cavalry

[noble garden]

Saw it on Bitter steels stuff said the more the better

[untold cove]

you can just put one cavalry battallion and be done with it

i use one

[grave sonnet]

Amazing

[noble garden]

Idk I use alll with military police

[untold cove]

military police is fine

i just didnt understand why 20 cavalry battalions

[lilac ginkgo]

for garrison ig

But its not good

[noble garden]

Just heard the more the better

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[untold cove]

i use 1 cavalry battalion + military police company and be done with it

[lilac ginkgo]

It costs more manpower doesnt it

[untold cove]

more equipment as well