hoi4-general

[fresh crown]

Wait with what? Should I just give Karelia to them?

[sudden thistle]

yeah the AI can only be fixed so much

[tepid saffron]

no thats why i said

take leningrad

[fresh crown]

And then they want peace instantly?

[sudden thistle]

But the Regime Knows Best 🫡

[tepid saffron]

you're right im going to send the d-day wall to morocco

[tepid saffron]

30 days

its a decision

and u keep all your land

[fresh crown]

So let the Soviets take the sapmi states and just hold Leningrad? Interesting

Thanks

[tepid saffron]

u gotta be fast tho

[fresh crown]

Before they do the soviet standard and stack 800 Divisions there?

[tepid saffron]

no

they'll never stack more than like 5 divs there

[fresh crown]

Then why fast?

[tepid saffron]

because u have nothing in the north

do keep port guards tho

[fresh crown]

I see.. Couldn't I like hold the one river like in the middle of finland?

[tepid saffron]

u could but at the end of the day u still lose karelia

mmm so how do i micro 30k planes 🤔

[fresh crown]

Hmm.. But 20 Divs should be enough for 8 Coast, 5 Northern river, 4 Leningrad and 3 to halt the side.

Oh wait

No, math is correct

[tepid saffron]

4 isnt enough to push leningrad

[fresh crown]

Ok. So 6?

Anyway. Can I do the continuation war if I "Won" the winter war?

[silver dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-invincible-gif-15950173611998718110

[fresh crown]

That's quite some Motorized and tank divisions you got there. I normally pushed poland with infantry 😅

(Took longer then it should)

[silver dawn]

well i am waiting for the soviet union to atack

that the allies send thair troops in

allais*

i want to kill thair army before even setting a foot on to french land

[fresh crown]

Makes sense. But I don't think they send troops to Poland.

[silver dawn]

they do

[fresh crown]

Or I just never noticed it

[silver dawn]

did that before

[tepid saffron]

🤔

[fresh crown]

Ok. Then maybe I'm just dumb.

[fresh crown]

What nation are you?

[tepid saffron]

germany

[silver dawn]

i would never make war with the soviets and allais at the same time

[fresh crown]

What year?

[silver dawn]

beacuse of resources

[tepid saffron]

1943

[fresh crown]

Why allais? Allies was correct

[silver dawn]

oh

well i am german

[fresh crown]

Did you let the Soviets grind themselves down or did you get pushed after barbarossa?

[uncut wraith]

it’s fantastic that i’m getting the “communists influence foreign policy” event like nonstap as france when communism has 0% popularity

[fresh crown]

Me too, its allies anyway

[tepid saffron]

no im just losing bad

no fuel

and romania decided to put all of its army into morocco

[fresh crown]

Happens..

[silver dawn]

thats why no war with alleis and soviets at the same time

or u can take baku from iran then its a othere thing

[fresh crown]

With romania and italy as allies you really don't need enemies 😐

[silver dawn]

XD

i always hate the peace conf.

with italy

[fresh crown]

Bordergore?

[silver dawn]

yes i call this Augenkrebs

[tepid saffron]

we can come back guys

[fresh crown]

True..

[silver dawn]

good work

[tepid saffron]

theres still hope?

[silver dawn]

you killed a lot of tanks

[fresh crown]

If you defend rivers with fprts against the soviets and let them grind down, yes

Why are you allied with the USA?!?!

[tepid saffron]

im not

[fresh crown]

The US tanks are literally blue.

[fresh crown]

Loyalty?

[silver dawn]

if u click that the troops color changes to the countrys color

[fresh crown]

Ah ja.. I see

[fresh crown]

Have the ruskies attacked yet?

[silver dawn]

nah they do that in 1940-1941

so i also have more time to build my airforce and navy

[fresh crown]

Damn.. I thought they do it similar to history.

Like one or two weeks after germany

[tepid saffron]

anyways

[silver dawn]

well maybe they would have atacked later if germany didnt atack 1939

[fresh crown]

I hate giving Slovakia to Hungary though, if I attack from their territory they get it and the borders are literally gore then

[fresh crown]

Lost?

[tepid saffron]

no its stabalized

[fresh crown]

That looks as stable as an upright paper...

[lofty adder]

oh sory

[lofty adder]

how many divisions you have

[fresh crown]

It is Nikolaus himself!

[lofty adder]

if you have less 200 divisons you capitulate

[lofty adder]

they buffed ussr

[fresh crown]

You should probably split those bunches of divisions into separate generals.. For the buffs

[tepid saffron]

i mean i've got my puppets divs as well so

[tepid saffron]

im lazy

[fresh crown]

That is not helping

[silver dawn]

i hope u toke all ur guys out of this

[fresh crown]

High Quality 👌

[lofty adder]

What

[tepid saffron]

im already getting pushed so

[lofty adder]

You have good army

[spiral viper]

hey guys jsut downloaded teh game to play wiht a freind, wanted to try it out. someone wanna teach me the basics?

[silver dawn]

yes my plan is working

[tepid saffron]

allow me to remind u

so do they

[lofty adder]

Is this historical ai?

[fresh crown]

Guess I got some minutes

[lofty adder]

You remember germany falls in 8 may 1945

[tepid saffron]

sheeps

[fresh crown]

But not voicechat

[spiral viper]

yaay

[spiral viper]

ah ok

[tepid saffron]

im on my 6th d-day

im going to tweak

[lofty adder]

You still have 2 years

And you cap

[fresh crown]

Still or no?

[spiral viper]

sure why not

[lusty river]

now why did ME, IRAQ lose this core when france capitulated TURKEY???

[fresh crown]

Ok. I'll just dm you

[lilac ginkgo]

maybe it was a scripted peace deal

That also removed some cores

[lusty river]

i was abt to get achievement

i might still get it

[lilac ginkgo]

Some events remove your cores from another country if the war ends in a certain way but I dont know for sure if that's the case

[lusty river]

the peace deal made 3 diffrent turkies aswell

[lilac ginkgo]

I can see that

[lofty adder]

Ezzzzzz

Why so ezzzzzzz

[lilac ginkgo]

buddy your frontlines make me puke

[tepid saffron]

its okay guys we can come back from the rhine

[silver dawn]

finally they send thair troops into my trap

[lofty adder]

1 Km

[minor flint]

How tf do I change the 3D models I keep clicking and nothing works

[lofty adder]

What

Press win+shist+s

[lofty adder]

Wait

[lofty adder]

Press on icon and choose armored cars

[minor flint]

I keep discord turned off while HOi4 is on

[lofty adder]

there you can choose tanks or motorized cars

[minor flint]

I keep clicking but nothing pops up

[lofty adder]

Wait

this is easy

[tepid saffron]

guys hear me out round two?

[minor flint]

What

[lofty adder]

Check dm

[grizzled zenith]

I've formed the Russian Empire as Tannu Tuva in the mod The Great Tannu Tuva

[minor flint]

I've been doing this same thing for weeks now. Nothing

[silver dawn]

i think my tank production is preaty good

[lofty adder]

Maybe you not have dlc

[minor flint]

I do have all of it turned on
I can access the 3d models in tank designers for example

[copper sluice]

who wants to do niger and chad playthrough

[lusty river]

THANK YOU PARADOX

hours wasted

achievement gone

[lethal ether]

no 55 tanks / day? 😂

[lusty river]

what i have to do to get achievement now is defeat, both soviet unions, all 3 turkies, france, CZECHOSLOVAK ITALY???, and little entente

🤣

[lethal ether]

ok

[lusty river]

ok

but actually tho how do i lose a state when turkey capitulated

[sly venture]

yes

just give Steiner some troops

[lethal ether]

i dont understand the situation, did u control it after or before the war started?

[lusty river]

i got it in like 1937 and it was a core and when france capitulated turkey they took it from me and i was not even in the war

[lethal ether]

i have no idea

[lofty adder]

Hi

Do you know your country started WW2

[willow gull]

🤣🤣🤣

[sly venture]

just realised Italy was in a very bad spot in ww2 lol like 3 massively fortified naval fortress surrounded them an incompetent leader and no access out of the Mediterranean

even if the leader was good there was not much they could do

[winter fulcrum]

anyone down to play with me and some other guy?

[grave sonnet]

Mussolini was good with national unity only

Everything else

Meh

The military was only good during the social republic

They had good special forces

But the social republic high command was mostly germans

So yeah

[waxen mango]

Thats a great performance form the Soviets 1 divisons and 867k troops that died from the Unknown like what did they do? Did the Regent from TNO found them?

Now they got 0

[fast rapids]

yo

[lofty adder]

HI

What is better left or right

[acoustic wasp]

i go right, dictatorship, although both are good, i tend to go right most of the time

[woeful knoll]

can you not naval invade from a country you have mil and dock acess in

[acoustic wasp]

they have to also be at war with who you are invading, if they are in your faction just call to war or call to arms

and you have to have naval supremacy ofc over the regions you pass through to invade

[woeful knoll]

spartikus, left is basically you do a world conquest and put puppets everywhere but instead of fighting u boost ideioligy and coup the goverment

right u split up europe with the soviet ai

[sly venture]

right is always the right one

[woeful knoll]

the big difference is with left u make volkscommisariat puppets and right u just directly conquer them

[lofty adder]

You can make civilwar in lot of countries

[untold cove]

what is the difference between volkscommisariat and reichcommisariat

[lofty adder]

volkkomissariat im think

you can create biggest alliance than kommintern

reichcomissariat is puppet

im think reichkomissariat better

[untold cove]

so volkscommisariat is communist and reichcommisariat is fascist

[lofty adder]

yes

[untold cove]

thank you

[woeful knoll]

volkskommisariat is a puppet communist goverment

reichkommisariat is like a colonial administration that handles lebenstraum and resources

[frank estuary]

Easily one of the bottom 10 political trees in the game.

[woeful knoll]

ingame they are the same but just different ideligies and you dont need to conquer volkskommisariats

[untold cove]

i never tried playing as a communist nation

[woeful knoll]

youve never played a communist nation in hoi4?

Is this your first time playing bro

[woeful knoll]

bottom 10 is a strech

[untold cove]

nah i was just too committed to german reich

i tried democracy too

[woeful knoll]

If u want to beat a enemy u need to play them

play soviets

[frank estuary]

It's so dry compared to the other paths.

[untold cove]

logistical nightmare

as both playing nation and invading nation

[woeful knoll]

what...?

just build supply hubs

[untold cove]

its too large for me to handle

[terse skiff]

ussr is definitely not a logistical nightmare lol

[woeful knoll]

exactly

[untold cove]

i guess its skill issue then

[woeful knoll]

bro tried to put his entire army on finland without building any supply

and says its a logistical nightmare

[untold cove]

now i didnt do that

i focused on china

[terse skiff]

red army can beat finland army with red supply in this game

[woeful knoll]

finland is insanely easy to beat when i play soviets

and the soviets are insanely easy to beat when i play finland

[untold cove]

i didnt try invading finland

[woeful knoll]

it can be chucked up to braindead ai

[untold cove]

as soviets

i did it more than once as germany

[woeful knoll]

im so confused

you never played a communist country

but u invaded china as soviets

[lofty adder]

Hi

[woeful knoll]

and then invaded finland as germany

[woeful knoll]

hi

[lofty adder]

What im need press

[untold cove]

we had some funny business back there

[lofty adder]

Sell figthers to yugoslavia or not

[woeful knoll]

doesnt matter at all

its a 10 year old event

i dont think it even does anything

[terse skiff]

sell tacs cuz you still need to produce fighters

[untold cove]

i didnt play soviets as the way they should be played

i guess

[woeful knoll]

not as commie germany

[terse skiff]

if you want to early war in asia just invade japan so you can start comecon early

[woeful knoll]

u could do a wc as them without producing a single unit

[untold cove]

well civil war certainly caused some casualties

[terse skiff]

there are videos of ppl wcing with just one unit

doesn't mean you should do that

[silver dawn]

do they want my trap to work or what?

[untold cove]

it would be so satisfying to encircle all that

[woeful knoll]

Uk: produce 100 more

france; delete the entire army after encirclement

[unreal mica]

Guys all central asian countries have fallen except for the kazakhs can they still white peace

I’m turkey helping them out this is kaiserreich

OPOHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOOOOOOOOOOO IMPOSSIBLEEEEEEEEEE

NO WAAYYYY

DAAANGGG IT WORKED

[lofty adder]

How invade in otterreich

[untold cove]

i dont think they can resist too much

[lofty adder]

Hi im now can make civil wars

For world revolution of workers

[untold cove]

i assume thats a bad thing?

[lofty adder]

No

[untold cove]

then congrats

[indigo elk]

Best Italian generals to upgrade at the start?

[unreal mica]

Who else other than giovanni messe

[indigo elk]

I'm not really using tanks though

[terse skiff]

then just don't use tanks

you can still use messe for other things

he doesn't have a -100% attack if you're using an inf division trait

[indigo elk]

I get that, but I may as well train one of the infantry officer generals instead

[terse skiff]

also panzer traits allow generals to gain attack more likely

[terse skiff]

messe can also get infantry officer trait

[silk fern]

got the island but lost the entire navy 😭

[terse skiff]

and infantry officers get defense more often instead of attack

[lofty adder]

Hi

Give me team plate

On tanks

[terse skiff]

basically cav and panzer officer traits mean your general is more likely to gain atk when leveling up while inf officer mean your general is more likely to get defense which is why cav and panzer traits are better

and you don't want to get infantry expert to early when grinding

[terse skiff]

check pins in help

[lofty adder]

Please give me template spg

[indigo elk]

Didn't know that!

[indigo elk]

Why not? I swap them out anyway until I get bold attack then level them up

[terse skiff]

because every trait earned slows down the rate that your generals gain exp in other traits

that's why you see so much switching between tanks and truck divisions when you grind generals in scw

[lofty adder]

This is right?

I’m not have second artillery

[terse skiff]

remove armor skirt, and honestly you don't even need +4 armor

[lofty adder]

Template

[terse skiff]

and also make sure you get cut corners with henschel

and with skoda mio now you can just use benz for design and skoda for production

still nothing wrong with using henschel

[woeful knoll]

Your finished

There is no way for u to cap allies now

besides playing to the 50s

[silk fern]

its non historical allies are just britain and italy

[woeful knoll]

oh

[lofty adder]

hi what im need to do

Im think im need stepback to central otterland

and make circles

[chilly cipher]

"zhu de is one of the most useful generals in hoi4"

Tomoyuki Yamashita

[left jewel]

r/hoi4memes is really a place huh

[unreal mica]

the sublime federation shall stand!

[untold cove]

now thinking about it, hoi4 never touches the really fragile concepts

such as ethnic cleansing

it could be a war goal for certain countries

[unreal mica]

this is a ww2 game after all

why not add ethnic cleansing

[untold cove]

it would be harder to sell the game

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/farukuyduran-gif-15941777204669373503

[left jewel]

this was in response to some dutch fascist path in a mod where a focus called "deport the jews" gave you -12k manpower and +2 civs

[clear dagger]

how do you gain civs from kicking people out of your country

[snow rain]

?

what does that mean

[heavy vigil]

pretty clear question

[clear dagger]

in response to the message above

[snow rain]

oh

[heavy vigil]

also hiii francis

[snow rain]

just dropping by before going to bed

[bronze glade]

ne pomny kakaya shirina fronta wrode da 30

[lofty adder]

Licemerie zapada

Capnul italiyu ya a 50% vklada vb

[bronze glade]

I would have taken the entire fleet and used it to capitulate eng

[dawn mango]

how do i see trading relation

[vague steppe]

How to get a hoi4 mommy

[winter fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1431153874340806666/1498093668706287616/attachment.gif

There we go

[vague steppe]

WHY CANT I HAVE A JOB AND A HOI4 MOMMY

[astral forum]

Has anyone else had the issue where the game deletes your faction, all of your armies, etc. and doesn't allow you to assign new armies?

[untold cove]

kind of weird why being fascist automatically makes you anti semitist

yeah a hoi4 mommy would be desirable

[left jewel]

well being fascist makes you hella nationalist which makes you anti minority, and before WW2, jews were a large minority pretty much everywhere in europe

[vague steppe]

Where can one find one

[untold cove]

i mean cant we be racist against someone other than jews

not because its a good thing

just asking

[heavy vigil]

lets not

[vague steppe]

Otherwise Reddit would be mad

[left jewel]

lets just not be racist how bout that

[untold cove]

we were discussing a mod

[heavy vigil]

#server-rules

[untold cove]

alrighty then

[heavy vigil]

more about inappropriate topics than necessarily about a mod :>

[untold cove]

i think i am a bit misunderstood

[left jewel]

theres also the fact that when a movement is successful, similar movements in other countries mirror it

which is why the italians werent antisemetic until they allied with germany

[untold cove]

i thought it was german specific during whole ww2

learning something new everyday

[shrewd inlet]

fart

[left jewel]

germany kind of forced it down all of its allies

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah

[unreal mica]

The comeback🐺🐺🐺

[shrewd inlet]

doesn't excuse the actions but it's still not great

[untold cove]

kind of a L ngl

[shrewd inlet]

ottomans need a rework so bad

[untold cove]

what ideology is sublime ottomans exactly

[lofty adder]

Hi

[left jewel]

it says federation so I assume democratic or non alligned?

oh i forgot

kx

[untold cove]

probably non aligned

[left jewel]

One of the demoracies

[untold cove]

i should try that mod sometime

[vague steppe]

Ottomans honestly suck even tho the content is new

[shrewd inlet]

naw most of their content is old iirc?

[vague steppe]

By the time you can do something ww2 has ended

[vague steppe]

Think it’s 2 years old

[shrewd inlet]

yikes

[vague steppe]

With newest update being 6 months ago

[untold cove]

an empire consisting of outdated things

[shrewd inlet]

yeah ottomans need a rework, post desert war content and weltkrieg content

[rotund chasm]

I read this as sublime of toman federation and was wondering wtf is toman

[vague steppe]

Weltkrieg just sucks in the mod

Always ends within a year

[shrewd inlet]

the afghanistan-ottoman exile path is funner than most of the ottoman paths

[lofty adder]

Hi tell me this is good template?

[shrewd inlet]

🤷‍♂️

I never use space marines

[lofty adder]

414 sovtattack

[untold cove]

why not max out inf

[vague steppe]

Not bad

Especially if you can afford it

It’s single player so

Can I say as an unpopular that kaiserreich is a bad mod

[shrewd inlet]

meh

kx is better

[vague steppe]

100%

Since hoi4 is made to be wacky

[shrewd inlet]

i do like how kx and kr are actually built around "ww2", it's vanilla but fresh

[rotund chasm]

Is the point of space marines not to armor meme?

[vague steppe]

Hoi3 kaiserreich would be extremely fun but that doesn’t exist

[vague steppe]

Nope since you’ll run out of fuel and waste hours of your life building railroads

[untold cove]

isnt kaiserreich and kx same mod

[shrewd inlet]

kinda

kx has goofier paths

like Technocrat USA coring the whole world

and having oppenheimer as a leader

[woeful knoll]

Kaiserreich is "What if germany won ww1 and hoi4 had a good plotline"

[untold cove]

i like goofy ahh paths

[woeful knoll]

Kaiserredux is "What if germany won ww1 and every single country has a scizo focus tree"

[shrewd inlet]

exactly

[vague steppe]

Hoi4 mechanics are the worst part of the mod tho

Hoi4 is made to be wacky

[untold cove]

does ottomans win too or germany wins and becomes selfish about it

[woeful knoll]

central powers win

[shrewd inlet]

Ottomans get sidelined

[woeful knoll]

yeah

[vague steppe]

Ottomans gain nothing and can even lose stuff joining Germany

[shrewd inlet]

They only get Armenia, and the sinai

germany takes the suez

[untold cove]

bruh

[unreal mica]

Market Liberals

[tired jackal]

the fact that usa in hoi4 can get 1944 heavy fighters with jet engines by late 1940 is crazy

🥀

[shrewd inlet]

the ottomans fought around as well as they did in OTL, but they did get pushed up to the border of modern turkey

[vague steppe]

But yk ai will still build interwar fighters

[woeful knoll]

well if the usa put all their attention on jet fighters they could have done it

[untold cove]

so central powers winning doesnt change ottoman empire's fate?

[tired jackal]

there nothing such as overkill

[shrewd inlet]

They can modernize and reform

[untold cove]

i mean in lands and borders

[vague steppe]

The conservative path in the mod isn’t out yet which would give cores in the Balkans

[unreal mica]

Guys from just istanbul I saved it

[woeful knoll]

you can save ottomans and reform and modernize in kaiserreich, in kaiserredux u can either do the same thing but worse or make wilhelm the sultan

[shrewd inlet]

this is what they start out with minus the expanded thrace (you can demand it from bulgaria)

[untold cove]

wilhelm the sultan was not a thing i was expecting to read today

[unreal mica]

Plus armenia

[shrewd inlet]

well this*

[vague steppe]

You also don’t have Jerusalem

[unreal mica]

Yes

[shrewd inlet]

Ottomans retook libya from the italians iirc

[tired jackal]

i mean the ottomans was doomed to collapse due to hundreds of years of corruption

[untold cove]

bruh they gave em bunch of desert

[tired jackal]

and they also were a very diverse empire already struggling to break rebellions

[shrewd inlet]

Ehh depends

[vague steppe]

The Ottoman Empire wasn’t made around turkey tho

It was under the sultan

[shrewd inlet]

Ottomans couldn't have held the balkans but t hey had a shot of holdding the middle east

[vague steppe]

In Istanbul

[woeful knoll]

Why did they not just hire a free company, conquer rome, accept rebel demands and become latin, then form the roman empire? Were they stupid?

[shrewd inlet]

they are surrounded by enemies

[vague steppe]

They could have held their pre Balkan war borders

[shrewd inlet]

Honestly maybe, it all depends

[crisp loom]

-pushes into Romania
-all going well through north western half 😎
-sieges start getting harder
-force attack with tanks
-everyone and their mother is out of fuel and supply
-realizes mountains exist :facepalm:
-lose war, coup from your tank general who is unhappy about pushing into mountain with no supply

[shrewd inlet]

the balkan lands were some of the most developed lands in the empire, losing themm was a significant blow to the ottomans

[untold cove]

i mean they being ripped apart is logical but winning the war could add some positives to them

like erasing their debt to brits and french

[shrewd inlet]

Anatolia and the Arabic lands weren't the greatest development wisew

[woeful knoll]

Repaying debt doesnt matter if your dog is trying to kill you

[shrewd inlet]

but they held significant oil and influence in the region

[untold cove]

yeah but its a start

[vague steppe]

The region also had no identify besides Albania which could have been given autonomy

The Balkan nations forced the people there into a nationality

[shrewd inlet]

mhm

[vague steppe]

Even tho their identity was loyalty to the sultan

[brave siren]

Do railways give supplies to every province it passes through given it has the trains for it or only the final destination province

[vague steppe]

Nobody knows

Not even paradox

[untold cove]

im about to prepare a naval invasion of uk, shall I focus on fighters or cas

[brave siren]

Fighters because they can help with naval supremacy

[untold cove]

i didnt know they contributed to naval supremacy

[vague steppe]

Cas if you think it’ll be a 50/50 if the beginning invasion will work

[untold cove]

both of them then

[unreal mica]

Guys kazakhstan and turkestan went to war

Who am i supposed to help

[vague steppe]

Depends

Are you low on potassium?

[analog bloom]

yo i have a feeling somethings wrong here. can yall help me figure it out?

[unreal mica]

No

[vague steppe]

Then Turkmenistan

[unreal mica]

Why does it matter

[vague steppe]

Samos is still unoccupied

[vague steppe]

Trust

[untold cove]

british still standing

take them out

[tired jackal]

i gotta love that american power

[vague steppe]

We see the discord call on the thing

[unreal mica]

i helped kazakhstan

They formed turkestan regardless

[vague steppe]

Well u can overdose on potassium then

[blazing river]

bro forgot about kerguilan

[unreal mica]

How do i check for a potassium deficiency

[weary holly]

I'm pretty sure there was some historical event related, very accurate, but can't quite put my head on it, tho...

[indigo elk]

Best land doctrine for Italy?

[tired jackal]

gdp

[indigo elk]

Which of the bottom two give more SF? I can never remember!

[merry compass]

Why does afk room exist?

[untold cove]

rate my fighter

[lofty adder]

Hi

Germany orrounted by enemies

[untold cove]

very unfortunate indeed

[tired jackal]

remove the two engine and make it one eng 3. remove the radio and the eletronics and the defense turret

then add self sealing

[untold cove]

i dont have self sealing technology

is it really that necessary?

[dusky burrow]

not if you conquer the rest of china first

[dusky burrow]

right

so you go left/right (depending on terrain needs), left, then right

[lofty adder]

Are you pro in hoi 4?

[dusky burrow]

add one of 2hmg

but yeah

[dusky burrow]

not really

[indigo elk]

Playing Italy, so I typically go for the snow buff because mountains are usually snowy anyway.

[dusky burrow]

well even in deep snow you suffer a 40% attack penalty and 30% breakthrough penalty at worst, whereas in mountains it is 50% for both attack and breakthrough

[untold cove]

rate my cas twin 🥀

[dusky burrow]

i don't think you need double engine3 for that

[indigo elk]

Sorry, no. It's usually right, left, left... but you're suggesting right, right, right?

[dusky burrow]

no

the snow/mountain thing is the first left/right, not the second

the second is combat reduction versus uh... not much actually

[untold cove]

weight exceeds thrust if i put 1 eng3

[dusky burrow]

"not much" is to say that you get 11% more of all stats with the combat width reduction, including attack and breakthrough, whereas for the second you just get 15% breakthrough

[dusky burrow]

then make the second small bomb bay into a bomb lock

it has 27 weight right now, right?

[brisk garden]

What country do you thinks is the easiest

[tired jackal]

the ai seeing 1944 fighters with jet engines in 1941

😭

[brisk garden]

.

[dusky burrow]

yeah

american air power be like

[brisk garden]

You

What is the easiest country in your opinion?

@dusky burrow

[untold cove]

german reich

probably

or italy

[brisk garden]

Oh

[untold cove]

you can also grab france or usa too

[brisk garden]

Austria?

HAHAHA

[untold cove]

not really

brother 🥀

[dusky burrow]

what's your goal

[heavy vigil]

good night liv

[viscid mason]

good night casey

[unreal mica]

Why are the Russians so op man

Why just why

I play as iran the ottomans destroy egypt and then theres no hope for me

I play as the ottomans I’m forced to hold out in Istanbul cuz the ai somehow can spam millions of divisions

I play as egypt

Same thing happens as with iran

And the one thing in common between every single kaiserreich game

Is RUSSIA

RUINING THE DAMN GAME

[tired jackal]

dude omg i hate this new japanese dlc so much

i can't get navy for d day as usa

[unreal mica]

domt u mean czech

[tired jackal]

because i don't have a naval hq

🥀

so how am i supposed to d day

[unreal mica]

Why would u even need to work on ur navy

[tired jackal]

bro i can't like actually d day

[unreal mica]

cant naval invade?

[tired jackal]

because i have no naval supremancy to d day because my navy doesn't have range

because there NO naval hq

in range

[unreal mica]

just use the uk ports

[tired jackal]

which is such bullshit

it won't work

i need the naval hq

🥀

[unreal mica]

ctrl+click on any british port

[tired jackal]

no

like i HAVE no range

IT physically won't let me

[unreal mica]

what?

[tired jackal]

im in a uk port

[unreal mica]

over the English channel?

how

[tired jackal]

because i don't have a naval hq

in range

im deadass gonna have to use console or switch to uk

[unreal mica]

yh just ctrl+ click on the port to make it ur hq

[tired jackal]

because i physically can't win the warf

[unreal mica]

Or ctrl+right click

[tired jackal]

no i already did bro

it not working

[unreal mica]

the hell

[tired jackal]

oh crtl right click

oh thank you good sir that worked

[unreal mica]

yh

[tired jackal]

i was gonna crash out

[unreal mica]

ur welcome

[tired jackal]

such a dumb useless update

[unreal mica]

enjoy ur dday

I’ll just try to enjoy kaiserreich..

[amber matrix]

Very historically accurate

[tired jackal]

the german ai had thre tank divs

[tired jackal]

poor soul playing millenium dawn

got bless ur soul

[amber matrix]

Its not millenium dawn tard

🙏

[tired jackal]

i love the mod for how cool the research and making planes and stuff

then what is it

[amber matrix]

Across the Dnieper

[tired jackal]

tf

[amber matrix]

?

[tired jackal]

i have not heard of that mod in forever

[amber matrix]

I went back to 1.15 to play it lol

[lofty adder]

Blitz krieg

Opel blitz

Motorized car ww2

[dusky burrow]

god forbid the british denying the americans port access

[dusky burrow]

probably italy or india imo

also good night casey

[dusky burrow]

Probably do these

[jade parcel]

whats the hoi4 version

nvm

[dusky burrow]

as for you, this is like 0.3% more optimal than the variant with 4lmg in last slot, but still have one of lmg or hmg there

[dusky burrow]

1.18

but in either case these should apply to anything post-bba

also don't forget to unlock this as germany

[tired jackal]

stats

no planning tho 😭

and no doctrine

[dusky burrow]

no doctrine?

btw hover over the breakthrough

what modifiers do you have

[tepid zinc]

minecraft.

[viscid mason]

hello Icey, hello Livadeia.

[tepid zinc]

ello polandball

[viscid mason]

definitely an easter egg to that other Swedish game

[tepid zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-ink-pig-head-memoji-gif-25029183

[tired jackal]

i just had intel bonus and cas monus

my divs have 1.2 k breakthrough

and 1k soft

so

[viscid mason]

i think Germany could be the easiest nation in the game imo, due to how spoiled they are in buffs

[amber matrix]

Why didnt russia just do this irl?

[viscid mason]

Is P*tin stupid /s?

[amber matrix]

He just had to do this

Hes actually dumb

[dusky burrow]

germany's a lot of making sure you have the right timetables and micromanagement

that's why i consider strong middle powers easier

[viscid mason]

fair enough. I recently tried an inf only germany build and I managed to do better in barb and found tanks a waste of production. But that is just my experience.

[dusky burrow]

in singleplayer i assume

vanilla

[viscid mason]

ye

[finite plume]

Might've went a bit too far on the whole island chain thing

[dusky burrow]

i think it's fine

probably make iki island bigger

[misty fossil]

bad

[misty fossil]

3 heavy bomb locks, air brakes and self sealing

[woeful knoll]

double engine 3?

[woeful knoll]

exactly lmao

the game is easier if you DONT build tanks

As long as you get 41 guns you can use infantry for pushing just fine

Before that tanks are too expensive and usually unresearched

[last pecan]

is this new or am i tweakin

[woeful knoll]

its from czech dlc

[last pecan]

makes sense

[tired jackal]

new czech dlc with non historical is freaking awesome

[frigid magnet]

i genuinely havent played the damn game in a month

[opaque zinc]

Hooray

[rotund chasm]

Is that second one just a focus that puts someone who isn't hitler in power?

[opaque zinc]

No

Have to do German civil war

Don’t please the kriegmarine but secure their loyalty

And wait for the revolt

[warm falcon]

is the new dlc bugged?

doing communist czechia and wanted to inegrate romania and midterm the option went in no exist-mode and and the whole menu for the options disappeared before reappearing after few some time

[opaque zinc]

I think this dlc would be worth it if there was a Slovakia focus tree

Even if it was small

[shrewd gust]

where did the pin go that had the reference for division templates?

[rich nacelle]

Anyone else notice that the German Reich’s divisions in the German civil war don’t lose org?

[opaque zinc]

I haven’t noticed

I did the civil war today and it seemed fine

[rich nacelle]

Idk

I just did it and lost because they never lost org

[opaque zinc]

Were you pushing with the event troops?

[rich nacelle]

They lost strength but not org.

[rich nacelle]

No. I was defending with them.

[opaque zinc]

Oh weird

Just see again

[rich nacelle]

Ye

I did the civil war yesterday and it was normal

[opaque zinc]

I did it maybe 2 hours ago

Went fine

[rich nacelle]

Could just be hoi4 pooping itself

[opal nymph]

Force attacks and last stands do that

[rich nacelle]

Also hoi4 devs: HAVE MIOs AUTOMATICALLY APPLIED TO EQUIPMENT AND MY SOUL IS YOURS

[rich nacelle]

They were using those either, just normal pushing.

[opal nymph]

Odd

[woeful knoll]

holy shit bro

how do i stop the carlists/falangists from getting the worst spawn locations in SCW

[rich nacelle]

Also why does Czechoslovakia get 150 divisions by 1939 if they don’t die 💀

[woeful knoll]

op new dlc

[rich nacelle]

I don’t have the DLC and it has happened since before it

[errant plover]

I'm starting my schizophrenic journey oh Lord help me

[misty fossil]

real

im trying to declare on this guy but the game wouldnt let me

like hello??

is it bugged

[atomic grove]

i usually like to fall back to a line from the mississipi to part of the wisconsin river to above milwaukee

its basically impossible to push into the uoa early on because they have a larger and better airforce than u and theres no supply for most of the frontline divs

also add field marshals

[dusky burrow]

posted: https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4/comments/1swr5t1/thoughts_on_my_templates/

[misty fossil]

why are you using para

and this?

[dusky burrow]

presumably it and mountaineer is more optimal than normal infantry

[misty fossil]

i mean

you dont have infinite special forces cap

[dusky burrow]

Nah, just pretend i do

because effectively that is the case once you unlock two special forces doctrines + the special forces conversion trick

[atomic grove]

i dont think you can declare war on states as federal governments

u can only ally them

[misty fossil]

that sucks

[viscid mason]

wait where is the I'm too lazy for tanks, just build a 38 width (or 37 width for that mass inf doctrine) inf div build lmao?

[grim plover]

Hi guys

[viscid mason]

hello

[trim pike]

Isnt it 36w

[viscid mason]

apparently some people on Red Baron like 38 Widths.

[pastel dock]

https://tenor.com/view/pragmata-konata-pragmata-konata-gif-17009978474044802215

[vapid shell]

if im guaranteed by france and declare war on romania who is also guaranteed by france will the USSR who I will call war on be declared on by france?

[dusky burrow]

if you're guaranteed by france and declare war on another nation guaranteed by france france will not join

[vapid shell]

ok what if I call ussr in on my side

which is not guaranteed by france

🤔

[dusky burrow]

still no

[vapid shell]

ok good

ok thanks bro

[vague steppe]

im down to do anything in lfg mp1

[viscid mason]

What is lfg mp1?

[vague steppe]

just hang out hoi4

casual

[viscid mason]

Oh okay thanks

[viscid mason]

Are parachutes better than regular inf? Maybe forest rangers could be better since the Soviet Union has lots of forest tiles?

[woven gate]

KR Ottomans went well

[errant plover]

I was sweating my balls off, but I had succeeded in killing off the uoa

[wild bay]

U really did It so good

[woven gate]

took some of my military genius but i solo'd like 8 countries

[wild bay]

What teamplate u used?

[woven gate]

9/1 Infantry with 24 width Mountaineers

nothing too special

the ottoman empire is big so you can afford to lose land while you build guns

[wild bay]

Mountaineers are so broken

[woven gate]

i needed them to take down Iran

i lost Baghdad to some French Syndicalist Volunteers but i was pushing in the north

when WWII broke out i just blitzed them

[wild bay]

I was thinking in make Spanish empire

[dusky burrow]

yeah forest rangers would be the best i think

[woven gate]

oh yeah i also used Camels in Libya

24 Camel Divisions literally launched a Blitzkrieg across Egypt

[dusky burrow]

honestly that's probably the best solution for egypt in singleplayer with the low supply there

[woven gate]

it worked surprisingly well

i was just checking if Camels are good

and it turns out that they are

[sharp kayak]

how long do historical hoi4 multiplayer games usually last

in réal time

[brittle cypress]

minimum 4 hours

[sharp kayak]

dangg 4 hours withtout pissing

[brittle cypress]

don't worry there's usually an hour worth of interrupts too

[dusky burrow]

you don't need a lot of force, and having 36-width camels force attacking with CAS should break through imo

[misty fossil]

@dusky burrow got one

[viscid mason]

I think asking for reddit for hoi4 advice is a mistake considering the ego of redditors.

Anyways good night everyone

[misty fossil]

night

[dusky burrow]

wonder if they're related to @the chemist

[misty fossil]

what is that btw

the conversion trick

[dusky burrow]

basically you create a lot of special forces cap by converting 2 widths into 40/50 widths, and then convert some of those into special forces before deleting the rest

[misty fossil]

oh

right

[raven lotus]

king hitler

[misty fossil]

how the roundtables

how do i check how many people play a game on steam?

thanks

i thought steam itself offers those stuff

[north merlin]

so uhh i js killed soviet union, and there's too much provinces in the demanding menu, is there a way for me to look for a certain province that i want to take such as kiev?

[misty fossil]

midget subs are useless

me when people build anything but a normal navy

then go on to label those who build normal navies as mentally ill

[raven lotus]

I dont care, I research everything!

https://tenor.com/view/everything-reaction-meme-gif-23306023

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-losing-my-grip-on-reality-i-have-gone-clinically-insane-my-descent-to-madness-is-complete-ive-gone-completely-mental-i-am-beyond-the-point-of-no-return-gif-23191724

[rich gulch]

Which Soviet path is the best

Stalin, the right, the left or the democracy

[brittle cypress]

Stalin is strongest

[rich gulch]

But I saw someone do the world conquest with the left in 1937

[grave sonnet]

They used order 66

Which is patched

[rich gulch]

What

Isn’t that a Star Wars thing

[grave sonnet]

It's where you put Ur divisions in garrison in another country then indirectly declare war and Ur divisions stay in their territory and instantly capitulate them

[grave sonnet]

Named after it but yeah it was broken

[rich gulch]

Oh ok

How do u indirectly declare warranty

[grave sonnet]

Like

Declaring war

On a nation that's guaranteed

By that nation

That you wanna cap

Or through a puppet of that nation

Which pulls them into the war

And yeah

[trim plume]

this is a weird world war 2

[grave sonnet]

What is that bro

And why is Macedonia in there

[uncut pollen]

...

[ornate steppe]

?

[uncut pollen]

No just no

[ornate steppe]

Wth

But i am germany

@uncut pollen

[uncut pollen]

It dosent matter

#server-rules please read them

[ornate steppe]

I dont understand?

[uncut pollen]

I figured

[trim plume]

ask macedonia bro

they special

[ornate steppe]

I read the rules. Says nothing

[trim plume]

how did japan outmaneuver china when they were losing already

[trim plume]

updated frontlines

[chilly hornet]

when is the us focus tree expansion coming

it makes sense to leave it for last just to resist the bias of the most powerful nations hypothetically being the most interesting with more to do realistically

[tulip thorn]

We dont know

[chilly hornet]

but there's a point in time in the game's development where you've uplifted every other meaningful country (according to paradox) from their irrelevance and we've reached it

[tulip thorn]

Probably next year maybe

[chilly hornet]

duuude

it's april

[tulip thorn]

yeah

[chilly hornet]

they made this dlc is just a bit of time

they have the help of the modders

[tulip thorn]

What the czech dlc

[chilly hornet]

i mean yeah

[tulip thorn]

Its was 3 modders as a little experiment

Main dlcs like No step back take way longer

Since they add new mechanics and more than just 1 nation

I doubt we will be getting 2 major* dlcs this year

[chilly hornet]

they don't when all you're doing is covering the multiple categorical decisions the US could've made politically and philosophically and placing every novel decision it really made on a more complex track where more and less decisions like that could've been made with more effect

[tulip thorn]

What

This is hoi4 not tno

[trim plume]

when did YOU arrive brodie
blud js spawned mid war thinking he gon contribute

[chilly hornet]

tno?

[tulip thorn]

the new order

a horrible mod

[trim plume]

mentioning TNO is like mentioning a certain historical event

its always a tragedy

[chilly hornet]

well go ahead and put my idea under a terrible disgusting "horrible" umbrella why don't you

[tulip thorn]

What are you even asking them to do with the US focus tree

[trim plume]

expanded focus

[tulip thorn]

well duh

[trim plume]

think of it like US rework mod

[chilly hornet]

i have multiple things in mind when it comes to it but they all fall into the category of one of these choices

[trim plume]

where theres actual several

trees

[tulip thorn]

How long do you think this would take to make

[trim plume]

8

[tulip thorn]

8 seconds

correct

[chilly hornet]

as long as it takes to think about it and program it functionally and release it once we're confident it doesn't conflict with anything

[tulip thorn]

So several months

So next year

[chilly hornet]

your pragmatic view of this literally isn't helping because it's neither pragmatic nor actually dealing with what i'm saying

[chilly hornet]

several months must mean 8 months oh okay

especially when the development team and their experience just tripled

by literally absorbing the modding community

[tulip thorn]

Im sorry to tell you this, Paradox does not release 2 major* dlcs in one year

[tulip thorn]

This isnt happening

It was 3 modders

[chilly hornet]

i'm sorry to tell you this paradox is a slave to supply and demand

[tulip thorn]

for a little test

[chilly hornet]

it can and would

it's a proof of concept that they can

[tulip thorn]

Sure, they can do it

Will they

Probably not

[chilly hornet]

i'm glad we have a cynic in the group for the discussion of an ever-expanding development as a creative and realistic project

[tulip thorn]

Sure

[chilly hornet]

especially that the cynicism isn't on the shoulders of the developers but instead corporate skepticism

[tulip thorn]

Ok

[chilly hornet]

is my sarcasm getting across or not

[tulip thorn]

Go play thunder at the gates and be happy

[chilly hornet]

no

[tulip thorn]

yes

no more dlc for you

[chilly hornet]

this is why you have a profile that looks like that bro

[tulip thorn]

Sure

[chilly hornet]

but have fun thinking you can do that to people

[tulip thorn]

ok

I will

[chilly hornet]

(he will)

[tulip thorn]

I will

[chilly hornet]

when are we getting an estrogen sticker for text chat in here

[tulip thorn]

Never

Because you asked

[chilly hornet]

well it's to represent you and your actions

so you might be able to get it

[tulip thorn]

ok

[chilly hornet]

because you so clearly can deny people

[tulip thorn]

❤️

[trim plume]

GUYS I LOVE BORDERS GUYS LETS MAKE IT TERRIBLE GUYS

[tulip thorn]

Pink russia

Cinema

[trim plume]

the bumiet union bro

belgium that cannot be a good move bro

[rotund chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wtf-what-the-fuck-what-the-hell-what-gif-5922332

You ask an unanswerable question and lash out at a rands response in the most bizarre way XD

I hope the US never gets a rework just to piss you off

Kingdom of Ireland dlc when

[tulip thorn]

I agree

<@&846894118219022336>

[chilly hornet]

when're you uploading your PR for lying and sinning speedrun to speedrun.com

(i say this every time i witness an e-athlete perform excellently)

[rotund chasm]

What

[fair horizon]

TRUE

SCOTLAND DLC WHEN

[tulip thorn]

Tomorrow

Trust

[rotund chasm]

Let me form the Gaelic isles

[old finch]

help why arent myt division are attacking

[old finch]

heplp

[rotund chasm]

Is this the tutorial youre doing?

Left click to select your units, then right click on a tile you want to move to/attack

[heavy vigil]

your game is paused

[old finch]

like ts?

[old finch]

how to unpause

[heavy vigil]

top right

[old finch]

thank you

ive spent 5 hours figurign out whats wrong

rewatching the tutorial 3 time

and staring at my screen

[rotund chasm]

Your frontline isnt drawn properly if one of your units fails an attack they'll relocate and leave gaps for the enemy to take, probably not an issue in this instance you

[old finch]

dude ive spent 13 hours not knowing how to attack

not knowing how to unpause the game*

[rotund chasm]

Ha ha tbh i think everyone struggles with basic mechanics in their first paradox game

[rotund chasm]

Im sure youre aware now but manually clicking to attack is known as "microing", the tutorials might have told you to press the green arrow above your generals head, that tells the your units to auto attack

[trim plume]

also get a centralized frontline

create an army group

army groups can contain several armies of divisions and can create a centralized frontline if you shift click it

i don't have an example of this due to the fact that im not in any major wars

and because the united states is really smart

in not involving itself in any major conflicts yet

[dusky burrow]

Forts are somehow even less useful with this DLC because they gave all artillery 15% bonus (except all forms of rocket artillery, which remain in the dust)

[trim plume]

they made the maginot even more useless

they are making france worse (good btw)

YEAAH

[grim plover]

Hi guys

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-smiley-wave-smiley-wave-hello-smiley-gif-1385908260356439679

[grim plover]

I am trying to Verify my Clock

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

nononono

[dusky grail]

Oh wow. Fascist Czechoslovakia is using Hussites symbol in its flag, that is insulting

[lofty adder]

You have all dlc?

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/dGcLSgkqtHE.gif

[tulip thorn]

Time for us all to uninstall hoi4 and leave bad reviews

Literally unplayable

[wide osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-gif-10010192375921110151

[dusky grail]

Bad review would be for that tragic tree if anything

[cedar lance]

hello

[ripe slate]

Theyre authoritarian but mainly against Germany so the main country that uses it isn't so bad

[dusky grail]

Hussites were fighting for religious freedom and tolerance. That is quite opposite of fascism.
Should have used Schwarzenberg coat of arms. They were happy supporting nazies until nazies turn on them.

[ripe slate]

(The younger) Schwarzenberg is the fascist demagogue and at the same time the monarchist leader ^^

Because he weird like that

Technically I think Schwarzenberg supported the worse one of the two main fascist movements but thats not the one the path focuses on with Gajda

[dusty orchid]

hi , I have hoi4 and I want to get the modern day mod from workshop but I dont have it in steam , if anyone can give me the file of the modern day mode I will appreciate that

[dusky grail]

AI seems to be still very silly. They love to go first into a meatgrinder.
Famous Daniubian state - France

Play non-historical they said

[lofty adder]

Czechoslovakia orrounted by enemies

[honest glacier]

ireland got northern ireland back at least

[ripe slate]

@misty fossilNo politician memes please

[misty fossil]

bro

[wide osprey]

czechoslovakia is the nation that can be defined in a single word

[rich gulch]

ass