hoi4-general

[acoustic wasp]

i do wanna play communist china lowkey

[lofty adder]

Im need annex china or puppet

[acoustic wasp]

annex why not

[misty fossil]

annex

[acoustic wasp]

bigger territory and better

[bronze junco]

Is the new DLC worth it? Is it good?

[lofty adder]

Hi

Hoi 4 have script for war with usa in 1941?

Im just want invade in allies in 1943

[robust meteor]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=uqqCKJHSTc4&si=tPt7_-VmZ6yGk0Qm

[lofty adder]

What

This is historical ai

Why east poland in germany

[lofty adder]

Hi

Is this good battleship

This is expensive battleship but good

Against usa

[acoustic wasp]

No idea i just use torpedo destroyers to get rid of the brits i havent played an actual navy before

[lofty adder]

Also im using these cruisers

[winged field]

get dual purpose turrets otherwise replace secondary turrets with aa

[lofty adder]

Where this

[opal nymph]

Local battleship gets vaporized by carrier navs and cas. Sinks very quickly.

Is this true? Unsure due to how mediocre the ai is at navy, but i do suggest you put at least another AA or 2

[opal nymph]

You already have dual purpose secondaries unlocked

[winged field]

you already have it

just select it in design

[lofty adder]

You mean these

[opal nymph]

Secondaries

Not main battery

Not every slot has access to them

Replace the top 3 middle with them

[acoustic wasp]

uhh i might have got rid of the entire british navy with just naval bombers?

das crazy bruh

lol

[stark elbow]

im sorry ukraine it always ends up like this...

[patent thistle]

absulutely goated game you cant change my mind

(ignore the german STUG)

[sudden thistle]

Company of heroes?

[stark elbow]

looks cool but kinda old

[mystic arch]

poll: should my next run be

TNO
Kaiserredux
RT56

[honest imp]

all fun and games until you get wiped out by a single airstrike

[clever shuttle]

i need help , i have two 28 width paratroopers, but i dont know where to drop them to secure an port. anyone got any suggestions?

[patent thistle]

yep

[patent thistle]

company of heroes 2 came out 2013 tf do you expect

[misty fossil]

any of you got a tfr achievement

[stark elbow]

sorry man didnt even know the game

[misty fossil]

Man of course the moment i need to play tfr i cant join their server

oh the humanity

[sudden thistle]

I despise the camera in the game

[honest imp]

anyone know why this isn't getting supplies?

[sudden thistle]

Let me zoom out more

[patent thistle]

thats one critic point i can agree with

it does get annoying as hell if you have a lot of troops

[sudden thistle]

True

I think I once had a 1.5 hour long PvE battle

[patent thistle]

especially if they are spread out due to tactical decisions

(for example: artillery)

[patent thistle]

because they ruined the naval supply system

[mystic arch]

guys

[patent thistle]

you have to manually place your naval base there so you may need to seperate fleets into diffrent strike groups

[hollow light]

Hi

[lofty adder]

Hi

Are you arabian?

😂

[hollow light]

Is the clouded saves cant be deleted when i uninstal the game ?

[lofty adder]

😂😂🦘🦘🦘

[ivory hull]

kx is the best mod

in existence

[lofty adder]

🦘

[lofty adder]

Are you from arabia

[left osprey]

Maybe some day TNO Requiem might reach slightly KX

[honest imp]

how do I get them supplies then?

[mystic arch]

who should i play?

[honest imp]

Or can I just not fight in the med?

[mystic arch]

i'm thinking germany

[lofty adder]

Ukraine

[mystic arch]

not an option

[lofty adder]

Usr

[edgy knot]

when will by blood alone and no step back become free?

[mystic arch]

read the options

[lofty adder]

America

[mystic arch]

no

i dont like the USA

[lofty adder]

Latvia

[mystic arch]

ok im bored of your suggestions that aren't possible

doing germany

[lofty adder]

Ruslan

[ivory hull]

95% of countries have a focus tree in kx

i do recommend russia or an american path

they have a lot of content

[lofty adder]

Rusland

[lofty adder]

Latvia

Paradox debuffed germany

[ivory hull]

latvia is ass in kx lwk

[mystic arch]

wow yeah america has a big focus tree

[ivory hull]

thats only one america tho

[mystic arch]

you would thing germany would have a bigger one

[ivory hull]

there are in total like 4

or 5

americas

because of cw

[lofty adder]

Гыф

Usa

[ivory hull]

norway has an interesting "aryan" tree

[lofty adder]

Norway want unite nordic nation

[unreal mica]

Ok guys so a quick question

I’m playing kaiserreich Japan

i got china and everything but now i gotta fight the entente

[jaunty timber]

are there any mods where you can establish the japanese puppets from tno in vanilla

[lofty adder]

Hi

[unreal mica]

Is there a scripted peace deal if i take enough islands?

[unreal mica]

sup

[ivory hull]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3008654093&searchtext=geacps
not updated but kinda this one

there is also a post war settlement mod

[unreal mica]

or do i gotta cap the us..

[ivory hull]

works too

[ivory hull]

iirc in kx you have to take like hawaii and australasia and the islands

[lofty adder]

Č

[ivory hull]

then you can peace out

[lofty adder]

Šköda

[jaunty timber]

alright, thank you!

[unreal mica]

What does iirc mean

[ivory hull]

if i remember correctly

[unreal mica]

Ight but what about kaiserreich

[ivory hull]

no idea

maybe its similar

[unreal mica]

Ight then

Thx tho

[mystic arch]

is the tech tree in KX js the same as vanilla

[ivory hull]

only difference is content/lore

and kinda peace conferences

[lofty adder]

Hi is these good cas and figther for 1942

[ivory hull]

not at all

[mystic arch]

how many paths does germany have in KX?

[ivory hull]

like 1 cool larp path

the rest are like 6 paths

that are the same

with different ideologies

you also have a civil war if you want one

content is ok without the submod

[mystic arch]

which is?

[ivory hull]

with the submod its great

[restive spear]

is it supposed to be like this?

[mystic arch]

wait there's a submod?

[ivory hull]

natpot göring

[ivory hull]

multiple, the one im talking about is roter morgen

world domination is also great

[mystic arch]

this?

if so i have that

[ivory hull]

get roter morgen

adds crazy paths to german civil war

[mystic arch]

?

[ivory hull]

yes

[mystic arch]

are world domination and Roter Morgen compatible

[ivory hull]

adds a crazy göbbels path

[ivory hull]

sadly not

[acoustic wasp]

just trapped 80 american divisions but the maginot from one line and mountains from the other lmao i cant get my tanks to finish them

[ivory hull]

add assault engineers if you really cant break them

[ivory hull]

why are there tds?

[acoustic wasp]

inflate the armour#

[ivory hull]

armor is at 29

lol

[acoustic wasp]

cuz im tired of my tanks dying

[ivory hull]

take them out lol

not worth it

for 29 armor

in sp

more soft is better

your on individual excellence right?

[winged axle]

what DLCs would be best to get first

[acoustic wasp]

1k soft is more than enough they make me feel safe idk im gonna put on them proper cannons because im taking this game to like 1950 perhaps

[ivory hull]

by blood alone, no step back

[acoustic wasp]

no

[ivory hull]

adds hp to logistics for motorized

[ivory hull]

take grand assault

lwk better

[acoustic wasp]

too late now

or it wont reset my stuff?

[ivory hull]

oh it will

[acoustic wasp]

then meh

well what do i do now lmao

[ivory hull]

ah i see the big mistake

always attack from multiple sides

as many as you can

[acoustic wasp]

the maginot is on the right

[ivory hull]

to make the battle as big as possible

[acoustic wasp]

here goes nothing

[ivory hull]

like that

with your tanks

because they are 36w

so you need a big battle width to get them in

[winged axle]

i mainly play germany us and minors are those still what you recomend

[ivory hull]

100%

also götterdämmerung

[acoustic wasp]

still nothing lol im just gonna make a big mountaineers division and have them attack this shit instead wait

i need to go get the scandanavians

[ivory hull]

no step back adds the tank designer which is good on germany ofc

also arms against tyranny

[ivory hull]

no do what i told you

and wait for planning

and org

and then they should crumble

like cookies

[winged axle]

ok i was wondering which one that was also which one makes the german non aligned focuses better

[ivory hull]

götterdämmerung

[winged axle]

ok thx

[ivory hull]

the one with special projects and stuff

[quasi osprey]

france????

[patent thistle]

first time i actually have france seen do something

[quasi osprey]

yeah me too

[winged axle]

is the spy one any good

[ivory hull]

yea

[lofty adder]

Hi

[quasi osprey]

even though very soon Germany will obliterate them its nice to see they are a bit more competent than at most times

[winged axle]

but not like top 3 right

[lofty adder]

Is this good artillery for infantry division?

[lethal ether]

how does this happen

this doesnt happen

[quasi osprey]

I especcially dont know how they got across the rhine

[lethal ether]

what year is it

is it historical?

[quasi osprey]

1940 historical

[lethal ether]

is gemrany fighting on other fronts or something

[quasi osprey]

no

[acoustic wasp]

2.5m and i havent even touched them yet lmao

[lethal ether]

thats crazy

[acoustic wasp]

time to kill spain

[tender comet]

maybe ok

[acoustic wasp]

then go fight the soviets and their puppets

[lethal ether]

maybe someone else dealt 2.5M?

[quasi osprey]

soooo close.....😭

[ivory hull]

how did you lose 2 million bromium

[acoustic wasp]

japan dealt 500k i did 2m

[lofty adder]

я хочу их очень дешёвыми сделать чтобы в пехоту для софт атаки добавлять

они по стоимости щас как артиллерия

[tender comet]

togda ok

[acoustic wasp]

tried to micro on mainland britian and forgot that i had my convoys blocked from access at the english channel i think, i'll finish up the allies majors then go to papa stalin

[winged axle]

what would be the top 3

[tender comet]

а то я думал ты хочешь сау дивизию делать

[ripe slate]

@lofty adder@tender comet This server is English-only

[lethal ether]

rule 1 bro 😭

[ivory hull]

no step back, by blood alone, arms against tyranny probably

[tender comet]

sorry im forget

[winged axle]

k thx

[acoustic wasp]

so uhhh what is the best way to invade canada or the americans, i have iceland but when i put my ships there they say no access my guess is that sea is always frozen.. the majority of my navy are improved torpedo destroyers

[ivory hull]

the better question is why did you wait to kill the uk

[quasi osprey]

why is this so painfully slow💀

[pulsar saffron]

guys how the hell do you get war participation

i had a run as communist china where i attacked nationalists with japan and got 16% participation, and managed to get most of china in peace deal

no matter how i do it again i cant get more than 5%

all the guides say to get 20% like its nothing

[ivory hull]

just get player led peace conferences so you dont have to deal with bs

[acoustic wasp]

i didnt i got them before 92 but the rng was going crazy, the US and canada were among the allies by 1940 during my invasion of Hungary

so Hungary was guaranteed by the brits, i invaded it, the hungarians for some reason declared war on czechoslovakia and dragged france in, now france and brits were fighting, brits called in all it's puppets then the americans joined and xooged france then when i started invading france they stopped fighting and france joined the allies

so how do i invade the americans now

and the brits

[lofty adder]

?

[pulsar saffron]

ehhh

idk

[lethal ether]

what is the sane option to click here

[ivory hull]

painful way via iceland-greenland

or even more painful

south america

[pulsar saffron]

if i had never achieved 16% in any run maybe

[acoustic wasp]

but the ships always say no access

the sea is always frozen

[pulsar saffron]

but i had a run where i did and i cant replicate it

[ivory hull]

dynamic homebase?

[pulsar saffron]

i genuinely have no idea what im doing wrong

[acoustic wasp]

let me see wait

[lethal ether]

help i cant decide

[quasi osprey]

💀

[acoustic wasp]

its december i cant see greenland in the naval bases

[ivory hull]

just set it to dynamic

[quasi osprey]

why does it show this??

[lofty adder]

@tender comet Hi

[acoustic wasp]

admiral chose the nearest base as lisbon lol

[lofty adder]

This is good division for def sea lands in my historical territories?

[acoustic wasp]

i didnt ask for docking rights

nvm

[quasi osprey]

I have lots of military factories but it says I only have three

[lofty adder]

im want make about 100 divisions like that

[tender comet]

for china?

oh

[lofty adder]

For japan

[tender comet]

you actually win war

[lofty adder]

Against usa and uk sea lands

[lofty adder]

ya hochu sdelat 100 diviziy protiv visadok usa i postavit ih na bereg i ostrova

im want make 100 divisions against sea lands usa and put their on ports and islands

[tender comet]

I would also add artillery and multiple rocket launchers for support

[stark elbow]

why is this game an addiction?

[tender comet]

Okay, sorry, but I still have to complete the new achievement for Czechoslovakia

[lofty adder]

im want put them there

[acoustic wasp]

guys

What airframe is able to drop nukes?

medium or large?

im almost done researching the bomb

[ivory hull]

large

[acoustic wasp]

okkk

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok ratio considering I am dutch east indies vs germany

[quasi osprey]

I would like a bit more but I think its ok for now

[wild bay]

Maybe

[ivory hull]

whats the design?

[quasi osprey]

considering its this ratio of planes

[quasi osprey]

I dont have the dlc to design proper planes which also makes it harder

[wild bay]

Bro, show us ur designs

[quasi osprey]

no design just standard I dont have the dlc nor industry to meddle with that'

[patent thistle]

first of what is the war situation?

give us CONTEXT.

[wild bay]

Lol, so that´s a good ratio

[quasi osprey]

ok

[quasi osprey]

although I am barely keeping up with the losses

[young lake]

Is there a vic 3 discord?

[wild bay]

No.

[young lake]

Nvm

Found it

[quasi osprey]

and its not even counting the other plane types I destroyed

this is hopeless the allies completelly abandoned this air zone so I will move to another one

as soon as the fighters are italian and not german I am melting through them

[tepid saffron]

how are u only making 6.28 a week

[snow rain]

if you're not winning the air war, you're losing
if you're losing, you're either jumping the gun (you need to wait for more planes, doctrines, xp etc)or wasting IC (bad planes)

[quasi osprey]

I am indonesia what do u expect

[tepid saffron]

more?

like what

[quasi osprey]

producing heavy fighters not at full eficiency isnt fast

[tepid saffron]

why are we making heavies..

[snow rain]

why are you doing heavy fighters

[quasi osprey]

dont they have more attack

[snow rain]

only the US or Japan are supposed to use them, and even then in vanilla singleplayer it's basically a waste

[tepid saffron]

lights are still better u arent the usa

[quasi osprey]

why tho

[snow rain]

they're not worth the IC if you don't have both the MIO or the doctrines for it

otherwise it's just paying twice the cost for 1.6x the stats roughly

you're way more efficient using light fighters

[opal nymph]

Isn't the US supposed to play with heavies since they can get advanced very quickly

[quasi osprey]

they are only slightly more expensive than than normal ones and they have way more attack

[snow rain]

that's likely a lie

[tepid saffron]

you get alot more out of just using lights

[opal nymph]

1x 300% bonus for heavy fighters

[snow rain]

if your heavy fighters doesn't have twice the stats of light fighters, they're not worth it
and they can't have this much stats without USA or Japan MIO (Checz also have the MIO though now)

[opal nymph]

Wait, do you have by blood alone

What DLCs do you own

[quasi osprey]

only slightly more expensive production cost

[opal nymph]

No DLC it seems

Wait, is this the United States?

[snow rain]

oh yeah that probably changes sstuff

[quasi osprey]

and more range

[opal nymph]

The US should have icons

[tepid saffron]

east indies

[snow rain]

indonesia

[snow rain]

show the light fighter

[quasi osprey]

its the second picture

[tepid saffron]

i mean he might as well use heavies atp

[snow rain]

yup, heavies are indeed way better

[opal nymph]

Agility isn't that important anymore

sadly

[snow rain]

stupid cheap too

[quasi osprey]

just I dont really understand why u said they are worse are they worse with the dlc?

[snow rain]

the DLC makes them worse

[tepid saffron]

they arent bad

[opal nymph]

Heavy Fighter meta no DLC?

[snow rain]

they require a MIO to be better than light fighters with the designer

[tepid saffron]

lmao gonna start playing with no dlc

[acoustic wasp]

great i just attacked denmark and puppeted greenland but the game didnt puppet greenland and now its another denmark but 100% democratic and im never ever invading the US unless i bring down the soviet union and hop on alaska

GREAT

[quasi osprey]

ooh ok so at this point I will just continue building them if I already built up some effieciency on the production

[opal nymph]

Same resource cost lol

[upper merlin]

Do you guys think food/rations should actually be added in a future HOI4 update, and if your nation goes hungry for too long a revolution/civil war starts, if you remain in the negative too long?

[snow rain]

you just need more planes and to maximize efficiency

[opal nymph]

Have you thought of invading greenland

[quasi osprey]

yeah

[snow rain]

note that AI planes aren't as bad either then

[snow rain]

what's your mission efficiency

[upper merlin]

Will make ww1 mods a lot scarier

[acoustic wasp]

im germany, my entire navy is torpedo destroyers, i dont have the range to do that

[opal nymph]

If you goofed up in the peace conference, fix it with another war

unfortunate

[snow rain]

youcould, just island hop

[opal nymph]

Not even from Scotland?

[quasi osprey]

how to see that

[opal nymph]

You should be able to invade from Scotland

[snow rain]

the faroes then iceland

[snow rain]

open the airzone, look at the numbers at top left

right under this

[quasi osprey]

oh this idk if this is bad or not

[tepid saffron]

thats good

[acoustic wasp]

only islands i see are around the UK then iceland, and im gonna have to wait until it's summer so i can invade

so sad

[snow rain]

that's it

[upper merlin]

I think another future hoi4 update should add a more advanced equipment system where you can assign specific unit types different side arms, pistols, rifles, shotguns, sub machine guns, heavy machine guns etc

[quasi osprey]

this is of italy's effiecency

[snow rain]

hover over to see why it's not 100%

[opal nymph]

No

Infantry Equipment is all I need

[quasi osprey]

mainly rain

[opal nymph]

Plane, Tanks, and Ship designer is all we need

Nothing else required

[snow rain]

those 5% are likely linked to low airbase supply but it's fine

[upper merlin]

Would be cool to have complete control over a unit’s design and say, give them weapons more applicable in say, mountainous and rugged terrain

[opal nymph]

You want to customize your inf equipment? MIOs

Simple as that

[acoustic wasp]

or do i just nuke papa stalin and do this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[tepid saffron]

no do not nuke papa stalin

[opal nymph]

That is called doctrines and MIOs

[snow rain]

most players can't eeven understand how stats work. No point complexifying that

[acoustic wasp]

i will at some point he's a fake commie im the real commie

[upper merlin]

Fair.

[quasi osprey]

what does this mean

[tepid saffron]

stalin was your day 1

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[opal nymph]

You prevented 969 bombing runs

[tepid saffron]

i mean its in the name..

[upper merlin]

I may at least, request to have pistols and standard issue fire arms (rifles and stuff ) be a thing. Small side arms are easier to mass produce but do less damage for obvious reasons

[acoustic wasp]

the Soviet workers don't enjoy the same rights as the German workers, we have to change that

i dont make the rules

we must protect the workers

[snow rain]

means how many CAS/logistrike/portstrike/strat bomb mission you prevented

[tepid saffron]

😭

[acoustic wasp]

or i could wait for the colombian civil war and in the meantime turn my tank battallions mechanised

[opal nymph]

It is called infantry equipment and support equipment

[quasi osprey]

how can allies be so bad at airforces

[lofty adder]

HI

HI

HI

HI

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-plankton-meme-ugly-plankton-ugly-face-plankton-meme-plankton-gif-15836444981074643801

[tepid saffron]

its ai

[lofty adder]

Is this defense division?

[snow rain]

if you're not filling each port combat width, there is no point guarding the flanks

[lofty adder]

Im want put these on borders

[snow rain]

where support arty

[quasi osprey]

but axis is also AI why are they better than ally AI😭

[lofty adder]

im not want attack

[opal nymph]

Infantry Equipment is all of your stuff for infantry. All your small arms, ammo, probably mortars and such

[snow rain]

also, as japan just use 18w, you don't have to save manpower

[lofty adder]

im want defense islands

[opal nymph]

Maybe mortars are your support equipment

[snow rain]

you need attack stats to damage enemy

[tepid saffron]

peaceful japan ❤️ no war crimes

[snow rain]

and support arty is extremely cheap soft atk

[acoustic wasp]

are the amtrac battallions mountaineers or just generic special forces that i should have a cap for?

or do i just put mechanised instead

[sly sluice]

how did you win that bro. i was doing fine till romania joined in. i couldn't defend both front. and how the hell did you got to that before 1940?

[snow rain]

if you don't deal damage when defending, you're just losing slower

[opal nymph]

Amtracs are special forces

[upper merlin]

Maybe separate the stuf into “heavy”, “light” and “medium” infantry equipment? And it’s implicitly implied say, medium equipment includes slightly heavier pistols / rifles and grenades , heavy infantry equipment implies stuff like potential RPG’s, flame throwers, heavy machine guns

[opal nymph]

More stats, but take up the cap and more expensive than regular mech

[opal nymph]

No need. Simplify the production menu. Infantry equipment and Support Equipment

[lofty adder]

?

[opal nymph]

Simple is best sometimes

Or you play Black Ice

and lose brain cells

[acoustic wasp]

im gonna have exactly 48 divisions of this (4 half full armies), might not have enough cap for it so i'll just stick to mechanised

[opal nymph]

48? Dang

[snow rain]

why add TDs though

[opal nymph]

I usually only have an army or so of stuff similar to this as Germany

[acoustic wasp]

i mean..

[opal nymph]

But I also have a ton of stuff in stockpile

[upper merlin]

Granted I’m actually developing a mod called “fall of eagles” basically meant to be the ultimate ww1 mod… where you can start right when Germany had the bright idea to start the naval arms race with England, when Russia began to really antagonize Japan… seeds of ww1 began to be planted etc

[snow rain]

good div though

[opal nymph]

Good luck. Please add a 1910 and 1914 start date

[acoustic wasp]

tried armour memeing and failed, im dragging the game on till like 1950 atp so i decided to slap some anti tank abilities on it before invading the US and USSR just in case

[tepid saffron]

how do we fail an armor meme

[opal nymph]

I'm not going to spend 5 hours clicking focuses and doing nothing

[mystic arch]

what is this in TNO: Redux

i think it's something to do with EAW

[lofty adder]

Hi

Is this good division for attack im asking 3 time

[snow rain]

except if there's literal walls of mechanized divisions in front of you, you don't have to worry about it

[mystic arch]

as harmony is an ideology in EAW

[acoustic wasp]

was forced to research other stuff and 9 armour just added like 30 armour to the whole division i guess idk i mean if its not brokoe dont fix it

[opal nymph]

Cursed division

[snow rain]

where breakthrough

[tepid saffron]

1943 not at war with allies?

[lofty adder]

Yes

Im making fleet

[tepid saffron]

its ai u dog their fleet

[snow rain]

an attack div without at bare minimum 200 breakthrough is no attack div

[upper merlin]

Well, it won’t be like that. I won’t make people build freaking buttons and useless stuff. Thats imbecillic. Research teams will all be able to research all techs too.

It will be simplified

But some stuff like resources containing “parts “ for artillery , heavy guns etc may be borrowed form black ice. It also means capturing species regions will cripple a nation’s ability to produce stuff even if their ic is largely intact because it’s implied specialized manufacturers are in enemy hands

[snow rain]

you should try World Ablaze
An easier version of black ice basically

very good mod

[opal nymph]

I like "green factory make whatever you want" lose green factory, lose ability to make stuff

[tepid saffron]

i hate that mod

[snow rain]

yeah, it's simple enough to be enjoyable without requiring half your brain power

[upper merlin]

Green factory can be seen more as state contracted industry too

[opal nymph]

You know why I like Red Dusk?

Because it is basically reskinned vanilla with some decision menu features

[ivory hull]

try darkest hour

[upper merlin]

In essence most economies in 1897 while having lots of ic, have huge amounts of peacetime ic and private industry

[opal nymph]

You know why I like Kaiserreich and Kaiserredux?

[tepid saffron]

that was even worse

[opal nymph]

It is reskinned vanilla with some decision menu features

[upper merlin]

Factories that improve production of local “artillery parts “, “automotive parts “ is done by adding new factories

[quasi osprey]

🤷‍♂️

[opal nymph]

Screw darkest hour

[upper merlin]

Which works like any resource

[opal nymph]

crap mod

[tepid saffron]

450k to like 40k on finland

[ivory hull]

how is it worse lol?

[opal nymph]

I spent 4 hours building up as the US only for the Soviets to die before Japan declares war on me

[quasi osprey]

is this an ok ratio

[upper merlin]

This will really hurt for anyone who’s Russia in 1914

[opal nymph]

Garbage mod, never playing it again

[tepid saffron]

soviets are so weak in that

[upper merlin]

Because all trade almkst got cut off during ww1

[ivory hull]

bro darkeset hour is the best mod after kx

trust

[opal nymph]

Lies

[tepid saffron]

what country did u even play

[ivory hull]

truth

[opal nymph]

Darkest Hour changes 10 billion mechanics

And I played the US only for the Soviets to die in September

[ivory hull]

germany and italy

and france

[tepid saffron]

ofc u like the mod

u played germany

[opal nymph]

Mod is Axis biased

[tepid saffron]

exactly

[ivory hull]

ermmm because they are the main character bro

[opal nymph]

Also 1933 start date

[sudden thistle]

China in BICE is where it’s at

[opal nymph]

More time doing nothing

[upper merlin]

I may even have rations/grain exist as a resource and if you stay below 0 rations/good… you risk a domino effect of horrible cataclysms .

First you lose a bit of stability and morale, then population growth slows , then actual unrest goes up

[tepid saffron]

what logic is that

[upper merlin]

Eventually you may risks. Dynamic tag riding up in civil war

[quasi osprey]

uh are they launching flying bathtubs into the air just this isnt an ok ration💀

[ivory hull]

95% of historical mods are germany centered

because they played the biggest role in the war

they started it

[tepid saffron]

and whats the fun in that

[daring geyser]

i would not eat this ration

[tepid saffron]

u play any other non axis country you just lose

[ivory hull]

its still doable bro

better than bice

[quasi osprey]

pretty sure yeah they are flying bathtubs

[tepid saffron]

darkest hour is still trash

[ivory hull]

or world ablaze imo

[ivory hull]

holy hate

[opal nymph]

Riddle me this.

Should mods buff germany to allow them to easily defeat france or nerf the allies and not buff germany

[tepid saffron]

not even

you are just axis biased

[ivory hull]

maybe

[quasi osprey]

💀

[opal nymph]

The best part of Darkest Hour is the map

Map looks nice

[upper merlin]

If you’re communist for instance or super left wing the hard right may rise up. If you’re already right wing commies may rise up

[tepid saffron]

i understand france falling to germany but

[opal nymph]

What is the point of heavily kneecapping the soviets and giving buffs to Germany

[tepid saffron]

soviet line shouldnt combust to 1 inf division

[opal nymph]

The Germans got lucky in France, so Germany shouldn't have buffs but the Allies have temporary debuffs

[ivory hull]

just make the ai competent lol

[opal nymph]

Then germany loses

Good AI would mean Germany should always lose

[upper merlin]

Which makes sense to me because I think if a communist state is losing a war and unlike the ussr due to mostly American aid in supplies, isn’t able to turn back the tide and loses too many good producing areas, it’s probable the rebels will be hard right wing not left

[ivory hull]

except if the ai is so good that it spams refineries and becomes autark

[opal nymph]

Sheep's Mod shows that Germany loses if the Allies and Soviets play just as well

[upper merlin]

Do you guys agree?

[opal nymph]

Because 4 majors vs 1.5 majors is not a winning combo

[opal nymph]

idk

your mod

just do a nonalligned military coup

[upper merlin]

Fair

[upper merlin]

Unaligned will probably be renamed to “reactionary “ ya know

For time period immersion

[sudden thistle]

Most players suck at this game

They won’t like that

[ivory hull]

true

[opal nymph]

Not all unaligned is reactionary

[ivory hull]

but you have different difficulties yk

[opal nymph]

Finland is a democracy, but it is non-alligned since it didn't allign with the other democratic powers

[upper merlin]

Or make your ai actually comparable and understand it has to ya know, actually attack

And won’t just let a whole army group sit

[opal nymph]

The hoi4 ideololgy system is basically hoi3's allignment system

And when people want to add their 50 ideologies in the game, they don't realize that sub-ideologies are basically that

[upper merlin]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M1NJyOAjcFY&pp=ygUgdmljdG9yaWEgMiB3YXIgZGVjbGFyYXRpb24gc291bmQ%3D I’ll for sure add this as a sound effect for war being declared

For anyone who’s played the old Victoria 2 here

Fits 1897-1925 more

[acoustic wasp]

is there a way to lower the amount of enemy operatives or am i doing this right?

[opal nymph]

I swear 50% of hoi4 mods would be better as Vic mods

[upper merlin]

Not really since sadly Victoria 2 doesn’t simulate post ww1 war well

[acoustic wasp]

the reactions are no i cant lower the amount or no im doing it wrong

[opal nymph]

Vic is a politics/economics game. Hoi is a war game

[fresh crag]

Heya everyone. I'm new here nice to meet you all.

[opal nymph]

welcome

[ripe slate]

Welcome blue

[tepid saffron]

Hi Archie Sonic The Hedgehog.

[fresh crag]

Call me Blue LOL

[tender comet]

hi

[tepid saffron]

okay blue

[tepid saffron]

why do u have so low agents

are u not spy master?

[acoustic wasp]

i mean only a couple have counter intel trait

[acoustic wasp]

im the leader of the faction but idk how to become a spy master

[lofty adder]

HIIIIII

HIIIIIIIIII

[uncut pollen]

Hi

[lofty adder]

HAi

This id good artillery for invantry divisoion in 1944

[tepid saffron]

no

[lofty adder]

What im need add

im want make artillery no expensive

[tepid saffron]

use three turrets add a radio

u dont gain enough breakthrough with a fixed superstructure

[acoustic wasp]

im never getting the bomb on time, maybe on time for papa stalin tho, i need around 300 days to prep my field marshals to get rid of the allies

do i just build like 3 or 4 more facilities

[lofty adder]

Hi

Im too need make nukes

Im want play to 1960

[tepid saffron]

more facilities if u want to do it faster

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hy-hey-gif-8520159980767013609

[acoustic wasp]

queued 3 might take around a year for them to complete

[lofty adder]

how make nuke

im mean make bombar planes

[acoustic wasp]

large airframes i think

[lofty adder]

How return my divisons

volunteers

[tepid saffron]

u dont

[lofty adder]

im need invade in allies

[lofty adder]

Do you know

Switherland in ww2 was been Nazi

They support nazi germany and millitraist italy

[acoustic wasp]

is this good to drop nukes?

[jaunty kite]

You conquer all Russia until they reunite with mainland

[tepid saffron]

not uh how that works..

[lofty adder]

Do you know germany may will be new german 4 reich and conquer europe again we need demillitorizate germany now in 2026

[tepid saffron]

whatever u say man

[lofty adder]

germany can will be nazi again

and we need demillitorizate them in 2026

[acoustic wasp]

6 more divisions.... MURICA IM COMING, THE REVOLUTION WILL BE GLOBAL

https://tenor.com/view/ernst-thalmann-gif-25238445

YOU STOPPED MUSTACHE MAN BUT YOU CAN NOT STOP SHINY HEAD MAN

[lofty adder]

hopw oyou make communist gemrna

[acoustic wasp]

you go to the very right to Rally the Wermacht

that starts a civil war

it's a little rough but winnable

then

[lofty adder]

Uk gurranted your neigbours countries?

[acoustic wasp]

down to start the proletarian revolution

[lofty adder]

When you playing for communist germany

World revolution

[jaunty kite]

Kosovo je German

[acoustic wasp]

Sometimes, if they stay democratic they will guarantee some stuff, if they turn fascist they will be week and no help from france or the US, sometimes they even turn communist and release all their colonies and let you do whatever you want

bit of an rng

[lofty adder]

What do you think about Germany

Democratic germany want make 4 Reich

[jaunty kite]

I hate Sauerkraut

[lofty adder]

Also im think they want make nukes

Like in DLc gottetrmgnaug

[pastel dock]

someone here have a insane killcount like this?

i doubt that there is a single man left in the allies lol

[untold cove]

how can i not suck at everything involving tanks in hoi4

[acoustic wasp]

KNOCK KNOCK

[winged field]

Don't send them to bad terrain maybe

[untold cove]

1. what mod are you using for visuals
2. dont you need to be fascist to have these generals?

[untold cove]

no problem starts way before that

[acoustic wasp]

1. Fps Map
2. Nope

[untold cove]

thank you

1. i cant produce thousands of tanks
2. my tank divisions have no organization
3. even if they have like 25+ organization they suck at battles

[lofty adder]

🦘 🦘 🦘

[untold cove]

what does that mean

[lofty adder]

What country you plays

Playonf

[untold cove]

german reich usually

[lofty adder]

Yu need conquer USSR or allies

[untold cove]

i can conquer ussr or allies using infantry

[tepid saffron]

i was going to go to africa but uh ❤️

[untold cove]

i want to do it using tanks

[lofty adder]

With their resources you can make 1000 years Reich

Im

For reich

Conquer allies Africa and have lot of resources

[acoustic wasp]

1. Sure you can
2. Infantry divisions have organisation, you cant have just tanks in the template
3. they suck because probably your template or designs suck or you are assigning them in areas of low supply, you can have that, 2X4 tanks, 2 more tanks, 2X4 infantry, whether motorised or leg infantry depends on what you like and what your industry can support, most important support companies are flame tank, armoured recon if you can produce them (go with motorised recon if you cant) assault engineers and i prefer logistics too, the rest are whatever you like.

and you dont need to produce 120938102938 divisions of these, its 1945 mega end game and all i have are 48 divisions of these. I conquered western europe using only 14 divisions

the best way to expand your industry is to annex more countries

[lofty adder]

This enough for making tanks

[lofty adder]

What

Is this 2 high tanks???

[untold cove]

thank you so much, this really helps

[acoustic wasp]

there is a guy on youtube he always makes good templates for single player wait let me grab the link

[lofty adder]

Im can help only with organisation

[acoustic wasp]

https://www.youtube.com/@machiavellianstrategist

[lofty adder]

You need add more motorized or Mobil cars

[untold cove]

scout cars?

[lofty adder]

For soft attack is better motorizated

[lofty adder]

Yes

Blitz cars

[acoustic wasp]

not armoured cars

[sudden thistle]

what

[acoustic wasp]

motorised are the trucks

or armoured

[lofty adder]

@sudden thistle

[acoustic wasp]

the light tanks

[sudden thistle]

dont use motorized

mech or horses/camels

[untold cove]

i know motorized are trucks i just thought he meant armored cars by mobil cars

[untold cove]

why not

[sudden thistle]

what

[sudden thistle]

not worth the price

[acoustic wasp]

these are the equipment I take up per division, ignore the tank destroyers you usually wont need them in single player

[untold cove]

i mean isnt mechanized more expensive

[sudden thistle]

all motorized does is make infantry go a bit faster

[sudden thistle]

its only 4 IC per

[acoustic wasp]

if he is playing a major why not??

trucks are easy to make

[untold cove]

this looks really cheap except sp

so do you just delete your starting divisions? or conquer small nations using them and then start deploying sp?

[acoustic wasp]

so @untold cove basically the division speed is the speed of the slowest unit, if your tank goes 10kmh and you have it with leg infantry in the template the entire division will go 4kmh, thats why i put motorised, although you can very easily and yes it works just swap the motorised with normal leg infantry and you dont need to care about the speed of your tanks which helps with the reliability

[lofty adder]

You need make thousand years reich

Historical

Aryan state

[untold cove]

speed isnt really a problem, i max out engines and set my reliability to like 70 80

[acoustic wasp]

I only use 3/4 divisions.

and the tanks i showed u

[untold cove]

so "infantry" is your main attacking force?

[lofty adder]

For what you using 3 division

[untold cove]

i have a similar infantry template but i add another line arty + support anti tank + field hospitals

[acoustic wasp]

early on yes when i dont have tanks, when i do have tanks i assign the infantry to the front line and dont activate an offensive order, what i do when attacking nations like the soviets or here the allies, right now im just rushing to the nearest supply hub but usually i do scissors with the tanks to encircle enemy divisions, the assigned infantry just automatically adjust themselves to the new frontlines when you take more land, let me grab another screenshot

[acoustic wasp]

you dont need anti tank in single player

[lofty adder]

For what you using 3 division

Thirth

[untold cove]

i really envy players who can micro

[lofty adder]

..

[acoustic wasp]

to guard against naval invasions

[untold cove]

i just draw offensive orders and press green button

[sudden thistle]

holy supply

[sudden thistle]

its not that hard just takes a while to get good at it

[untold cove]

i never cared about naval invasions

probably because i play on rookie

[lofty adder]

🦘 🗾 🇦🇺

[acoustic wasp]

just press f4 and you'll see where the enemy supply hubs are or you can cut them off using rails, just advance with your tanks on the rails and try to capture supply hubs, alternatively you can still get away with battle planning a lot

[untold cove]

im familiar with different map modes

familiar with basic mechanics as well

[gentle idol]

One Question what is the New Expansion Pass 2 ?

[untold cove]

just dunno how to micro

[sudden thistle]

a new expansion pass

just look whats in it

[tepid saffron]

okay tommykay

[fossil dragon]

another one

[untold cove]

become th

[fossil dragon]

just 13 to go

[lofty adder]

🤬

Why vishi France

If im invading

[untold cove]

yeah i dont establish vichy france too

[lofty adder]

Always sea landing in south France

[untold cove]

just annex all

or bulldoze through france

[lofty adder]

Im create vichy France

[tepid saffron]

priorities 🤔

[lofty adder]

Because vichy France can't join in alliances

And im just from Spain invading in vichy France

[untold cove]

why do you fight in africa? cant you just strike them at home?

[lofty adder]

After war im annexing all Africa

[untold cove]

what happened to your fleet

[tepid saffron]

never built one

[untold cove]

i thought you had a minor disagreement with uk

[tepid saffron]

i think italy also had an accident

[untold cove]

bruh

i really hate uk naval dominance

[tepid saffron]

sea lion is for losers

[untold cove]

paratroopers?

[tepid saffron]

i could

[lofty adder]

Maybe navy?

[ivory hull]

wrong

[untold cove]

i think taking out uk is the hardest

personally

[ivory hull]

get like a lot of cas

over the channel

naval strike

tf out of them

[tepid saffron]

reverse safari

[ivory hull]

plan the invasion

[sudden thistle]

try the USA

[untold cove]

you never have enough naval dominance

[ivory hull]

hope your navy doesnt die

[ivory hull]

i always have enough

[untold cove]

after annexing uk, USA is easy

[sudden thistle]

ehh that can be cheesed if u have mexico or canada

[tepid saffron]

i mean like can i really sea lion

[untold cove]

but who am i to judge i play on rookie lol

[ivory hull]

is that like sheeps ai?

[tepid saffron]

yeah

[ivory hull]

yea ok then thats a whole different story

[sudden thistle]

sheeps sea lion is a lot harder

hm

[tepid saffron]

its possible

but i just didnt build a navy

[sudden thistle]

i would say dont ask about sheep's advice here

[ivory hull]

on rookie sealion is probably free

[tepid saffron]

i have the air no paratroopers

[sudden thistle]

in their server yeah

[sudden thistle]

i done it once

[untold cove]

i cant 😭 😭

[sudden thistle]

the allies will CONSTANTLY reinvade the UK

[ivory hull]

bro just get a lot of air over the channel

[tepid saffron]

i've

LIBERATED

AFRICA FOR THE 3RD TIME

[ivory hull]

like its not that hard

[acoustic wasp]

guys how do you get your game to stay functioning after 1945, mine gets so slow and stutters for 5 seconds between each day, even on 5 speed it goes as if it's on 2 speed

[sudden thistle]

did u take all the UK ports in the med

[acoustic wasp]

do i grab a division limiter?

[tepid saffron]

i cant

[acoustic wasp]

mod

[tepid saffron]

do u see how bad the navy situation is

[sudden thistle]

thats why they keep retaking it

[tepid saffron]

we have a combined 70 ships

[sudden thistle]

wait who are you

[tepid saffron]

germany

[sudden thistle]

i would say kill spain and take GIb from there

[lofty adder]

😍

[sudden thistle]

and march down either libya or the Levant to get to the Suez

[tepid saffron]

no africa is okau

[acoustic wasp]

I don't make navies as germany anymore until like 1941 make around 60-80 torpedo destroyers for the naval invasion,

i just get air superiority over the sea, then spam naval bombers and let them work for 3-4 months, I haven't engaged one vessel or the british navy with my navy it's hilarious

[sudden thistle]

and the japanese should sometimes send their fleet to the med anyways

[ivory hull]

in vanilla you dont even have to do navy

[sudden thistle]

i seen it docked there a lot

[acoustic wasp]

i did to invade the US mainland but rn my game is waaay too laggy i quit the save

takes forever to move between days

idk how to fix it

my rig is okay it's not bad

rtx 3060 amd ryzen 7 5800H 16gb ram

[ivory hull]

depends on your hardware but the game engine is kinda cooked after 50s

[acoustic wasp]

it's 1945 and i just can't do it anymore lol

i might need a mod to remove latin america completely

[tepid saffron]

its been like 8 months no one has made a single move in yugoslavia

[acoustic wasp]

maybe that will help

[tepid saffron]

the true phony war

[sudden thistle]

maybe u can make a move on yugo

u have 2 focuses

[tepid saffron]

no we're at war

thats the funny part

[sudden thistle]

then u can attack

[tepid saffron]

i give up in africa anyways

italy just killed all their puppets so theres no garrisons

[astral forum]

Holy peak

[tepid saffron]

i think africa was worth it though

[timber reef]

how do you access that

[tepid saffron]

notepad

lookin thing

[timber reef]

ok

is it vanilla

or a dlc

[tepid saffron]

vanilla

[timber reef]

nice

alr

btw what mods do u use

i want smth new

ive been playing great war redux constantly

[tepid saffron]

i mean im probably not the best person to ask

[timber reef]

how not?

[tepid saffron]

i play more vanilla than modded

[timber reef]

really

do u have any dlcs?

ive never met somebody who barely uses mods

wow

[tepid saffron]

some

[sudden thistle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/skeleton-132--k01KQ5KGZ68YZY4MZVER2YYHZS0

[tepid saffron]

k/d as well

idfk what italy has going on but

[vivid juniper]

There’s something seriously wrong with ahistorical Mexico they have so many war goals. They can immediately spike world tension and cause alliances to form out of nowhere

[sudden thistle]

why tf is Oman communist

[tepid saffron]

if a country is small then they'll go communist

for the 500 weekly mp

[sudden thistle]

i have never seen that before

[timber reef]

what does ur map look like

[tepid saffron]

sheep forces them they dont have any focuses

[timber reef]

what is sheep

[sudden thistle]

AI enhancment mod

[sudden thistle]

the AI plays better than most players

rlly fun

[timber reef]

alr

does it work with historical?

[timber reef]

interesting division usage

[sudden thistle]

yes

[timber reef]

alr

[tepid saffron]

ion need that many divs

[timber reef]

u have what seems to be 1 army with generals

[tepid saffron]

tanks

[timber reef]

oh

what are the blank divisions

the 77 divisons

[tepid saffron]

36w inf

[timber reef]

are they just infantry line holders

oh

and the defending ones are just garrisons?

[tepid saffron]

yeah

[timber reef]

alr

[tepid saffron]

they should hold d-day

sheep ai cant really d-day tbh

[timber reef]

how cant it

i thought it was an enhancement mod

[tepid saffron]

they can but

it isnt really good

[timber reef]

alr

[tepid saffron]

i mean i say that as if i dont have 2.4m on the wall but

[timber reef]

lol

idk if i should use sheep

im not that fantastic at the game

i started the game using cheats

played most of the time with cheats

[ivory hull]

first time i played i got steam rolled on soviets lol

[timber reef]

game got too easy so i stopped using cheats

btw does sheep ai work on everything

like with kaissereich (it was kaiserreich)

[tepid saffron]

uh

[timber reef]

idk if i spelt it right and i dont care

[tepid saffron]

it should

lemme see

[timber reef]

and the other ones

alr

[sudden thistle]

no

only vanilla/ lightly modded vanilla

although

[timber reef]

oh

[sudden thistle]

the creator is making a Kr sub mod(s)

[timber reef]

alr

btw wdym lightly modded vanilla

what constitutes lightly modded

btw did any of u guys play new ways

when it was a thing

i used to love new ways

[tepid saffron]

yeah he did say that i was trying to find where

i dont see it tho

[sudden thistle]

i have the link gimme a minute

[sudden thistle]

ummm

nation colors obviously

more decisions

laws

[tepid saffron]

mid 1942 barb ❤️

[timber reef]

alr

[sudden thistle]

anything more than that and the mod will implode

[timber reef]

alr

[tepid saffron]

im going to have so much fun!

[sudden thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeadFarmSheep/myworkshopfiles/?p=1

the 1st 2 pages of his submissions

[tepid saffron]

only thing i do hate is how

soviets spawn in fighters

[timber reef]

is it going to be put into one submod

[sudden thistle]

no

[timber reef]

or is it gonna just be a crapshow of 20 different submods u need to download

why

what the hell is the point

eh

oh well i suppose

[timber reef]

oh so the answer is literally yes

[sudden thistle]

this is also 1 dude rewriting the entire AI of Vanilla and a mod

[timber reef]

alr

[tepid saffron]

idek if i wanna barb atp

[timber reef]

it cant be that hard

surely

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its like the most amount of tanks i've EVER seen them have

[timber reef]

oh

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how many divs

[fresh crown]

Hello. I got a Question. So, I was playing Finland Soldier Ironman and Historical, no Mods. I stayed with the first leader and unaligned. Nothing special happened till the winter war and that's the point. On the literally first day of the war the soviets NAVAL INVADED me.. On historical Finland.. I only had 20 Divisions and couldn't respond.. Now my question is: How, why and is that even allowed?

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and u will hace green air anways

have*

[tepid saffron]

i will they only have 12k fighters but uh

[sudden thistle]

oh

i forgot about them doing that

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ehhhhh

[tepid saffron]

it doesnt matter

[sudden thistle]

u have german stats

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the AI doesnt have a rulebook

and that is very normal

[fresh crown]

It never ever did that before though

[tepid saffron]

all u need is like 8 divs port

it's always done that

the ai doesnt give a shit

all u have to do is line up everything on leningrad

and take it

[fresh crown]

I wanted murmansk and the karelian states too though, so I manned my entire border. Therefore no coast guards and boom, naval invasion first day with like 30 Divisions. I was confused because I never ever saw that before.

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this is where half of the romanian army is

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wait till

barb