hoi4-general

[scenic pulsar]

would you rather vote for me or for me

[lilac ginkgo]

if i have a choice

none of you

if i have a gun to my head

then yeah you re a great choice

[scenic pulsar]

and then you get sent to re education

[lilac ginkgo]

you and 3 other generations of your family do

[scenic pulsar]

i love my democratic nation

[lilac ginkgo]

but i'd rather die a hero than live as a slave

[scenic pulsar]

i think the die standing than live kneeling one applies here more

[lilac ginkgo]

same thing buddy

[dry sleet]

Iceland is kinda funny, manages to have a focus tree that feels less powerful than the generic one

[scenic pulsar]

iceland or ethiopia forever pick wisely

[lilac ginkgo]

iceland

clearly

ethiophia can perish

[dry sleet]

#StillBetterThanSpain

[lilac ginkgo]

no dude

you can core the whole world as spain

[scenic pulsar]

at the cost of all your stability though

[lilac ginkgo]

as if stability ever matters

trust me you can live without it

[scenic pulsar]

doesnt stability affect production

[dry sleet]

sure, but you have to suffer the Spanish civil war first

[lilac ginkgo]

once you have enough of the world

it wont matter

oh well

average day for the hoi4 citizen

[nocturne cedar]

despite my 1.400+ hours, i never played as the soviets

[lilac ginkgo]

why

[nocturne cedar]

eh wouldnt hurt to give it a try

[nocturne cedar]

i dunno

i play mostly mods

[lilac ginkgo]

well so do I

[nocturne cedar]

i never played it

im not kidding

like

never played

[lilac ginkgo]

i see

have I won

ignore south america im not spending another hour getting there

[lilac ginkgo]

still u can try it

[nocturne cedar]

speaking off

i took over

the whole americas

as fascist brazil

like

north america was so easy

[lilac ginkgo]

thats nice

[nocturne cedar]

barely any units

[lilac ginkgo]

in what mod

[nocturne cedar]

just a 9 block inf and barely any air

[nocturne cedar]

vanilla

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

well i guess i own everything but south america

my pc cant handle this no more

im at 18fps and speed5 runs worse than speed3

[nocturne cedar]

just let them into the war

[lilac ginkgo]

who

everyones at war with brazil

colombia no

my units are in vietnam

i gotta wait for em

[nocturne cedar]

not everyone

[lilac ginkgo]

ok

[lilac ginkgo]

its gg ill just quit

god it took my troops 15 mins to get to brazil dude

the lag kills me

[dry sleet]

Clearly needs more balkanization

[lilac ginkgo]

does it now

i balkanized the us

the rest can be united

[halcyon scroll]

Oh shit my only elite cavs r doomed

[lilac ginkgo]

is this kx

reload your save

might not be the best way but

if u wanna win then

[halcyon scroll]

yeah

Ok mongolia delcared war too

Im dead

[scenic pulsar]

ok

i used commands to do that katzen thing

i tried at first but gave up

and when i annexed everyone the mystery man embargoed me

[tulip thorn]

zzz_no_pony_n

[supple mango]

can yall explain how to make the convert fighter thingy

[ivory hull]

iirc you change or copy the design as like cas or smth and then you can change it

[winter fulcrum]

is this a good encirclement?

[nocturne cedar]

the hell

[nocturne cedar]

bittersteel's most saveable disaster save:

[heavy vigil]

lets not use slurs, please :)

[winter fulcrum]

i didnt even use a slur

[heavy vigil]

'goy' is commonly used as and therefore is a slur, words are what they are commonly used as; something which often is different from their "intended" or initial meaning.

[winter fulcrum]

oh sorry i didnt know

[small dragon]

Casey!! Been months with no chat, how u doing?

[misty fossil]

do what

[misty fossil]

casey casey can you post and pin a 9/0 inf block for the new people

[misty fossil]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cFL9R5gj2ks?si=zLGsHdJgHz3ZGJiF

[jade ore]

italian ai being competent?? naval invading???? pushing INTO egypt??

[sly venture]

anyone know a mod that makes it so when you are canceling a buiding it does not ask if you wanna cancel it

[hard depot]

I make more lines until I am satisfied lol

[jade ore]

just press enter bro

[hard depot]

Click + Enter

Ez

We have got to increase our Actions Per Minute homies

[jade ore]

why the frick is japan in egypt

[vapid bough]

they just kept walking west after india

[jade ore]

i dont think they are even in india

[heavy vigil]

no

[misty fossil]

why

[heavy vigil]

im pretty well :) how are you?

[heavy vigil]

not opening hoi4+ not very important

[misty fossil]

ok

[heavy vigil]

any helper can pin in the help channels btw

[clever shuttle]

the new dlc is peak but why do i have to carry my team like how is france so bad, they had frankfurt but then lost it

[small dragon]

Doing great

[mystic arch]

then there's italy in the commonwealth of nations, iran and afghanistan in the czech entente, and more!

[atomic grove]

how tf r u holding up with 0 stability, 11 war support, and 0 manpower

[mystic arch]

current world map

(i am britain, lost northern ireland because germany randomly declared on them)

[atomic grove]

why is china yellow

[clever shuttle]

idk but cant put up with it rn because i need the pp for manpower, its probably because of the new army-readiness minigame

[atomic grove]

whyre u playing on an older version

oh

[mystic arch]

bruh

at least i control most of africa

[clever shuttle]

berlin is ours

[sly sluice]

hey

so

[mystic arch]

is this some sort of formable

[sly sluice]

i kinda need help finding a focus

[acoustic wasp]

so uhhh lithuiania attacks poland out of nowhere then joins the Comitern 1 day later, stalin kills poland then puppets it and hands over the puppet 1 day later then suddenly is possessed by trotsky and starts releasing all the puppets near the borders????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[sly sluice]

im playing new checkoslovakia and im trying to bail out the sudetenland economy with decisions. but i need a specific focus for that and i can't find it

non alligned

the far left branch on the menu

[sly venture]

historical has lost credibility

[sly sluice]

nah thats ukraine

it looks like it

ukraine's blue

[half sorrel]

crapatho-ukraine

[sly sluice]

so

hold on

nah its credible

you carve checkoslovakia

make slovakia a puppet

[grave sonnet]

That state existed

But Hungary came in

And invaded

And yeah

[sly sluice]

but by giving some to the hungarians now they want their identity

back

so civil war

[prisma steppe]

why are so many tech mods outdated

[fair compass]

everybody hates austria apparently

[sly sluice]

how did it come to life?

[grave sonnet]

They just kinda came in

https://tenor.com/view/komik-gif-14211273463614358620

Literally this gif

[sly sluice]

oh so like

[grave sonnet]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpatho-Ukraine

[sly sluice]

after hungary took em or before?

[grave sonnet]

They were first autonomous region

[fair compass]

very short lived apparently

[grave sonnet]

Then after Czechoslovakia broke

They just popped out

And Hungary said bassicly

[ripe slate]

Smh thats literally historically accurate

[grave sonnet]

I'm gonna invade

They did

And took it

[sly sluice]

oh

i though they wouldv' broke free from hungary

since they sometimes get that part

[fair compass]

did carpatho-ukraine even have an army.. or was it just a very short and easy invasion..

[ripe slate]

Short and easy

[fair compass]

damn

[sly sluice]

there is a fight happening so yes

they had an army ig

[fair compass]

nah thats just the police dealing with the hungarians

[grave sonnet]

Hungary spawn camped them

[ripe slate]

LOL

[grave sonnet]

Even if they fought back Germany would see Hungary struggling come in and send them back

[fair compass]

hungary was then banned by germany for spawncamping a couple years later

[grave sonnet]

Weird that Yugoslavia doesn't hate Austria

[grave sonnet]

True

[light goblet]

ANARCHIST SPAIN WAS NOT THIS STRONG

[sly venture]

this is just an excuse to kill mexico

[grave sonnet]

I can confirm I was there when it happened

[fair compass]

otto has some strange charisma if it's able to keep yugoslavia from hating it

[grave sonnet]

It's the Slovenes keeping the rest of Yugo from hating them

[fair compass]

or yugoslavia is gonna fragment itself infront of me..

[fair compass]

the true heroes of ww2.. the slovenes 😭

[ripe slate]

https://tenor.com/view/slovenia-anime-astolfo-gif-25870576

🏃‍♂️

[grave sonnet]

Slovenia is good because they piss of Serbia

[fair compass]

which general would be a good field marshal.. 👀 (im playing germany)

[grave sonnet]

We only do that when Tito dies

And when Germany invades

But they aren't invading so

[fair compass]

-# yet..

[grave sonnet]

Key word

[mystic arch]

lol australia wth

they are also doing the facist focuses

[grave sonnet]

They are democratically picking their next dictator

[fair compass]

even with no democracy australia is still democratic 😭

[mystic arch]

yeah the axis is mostly non-aligned and the commonwealth of nations is almost entirely facist except new zealand

oh and france

[fair compass]

has anyone ever put themselves through the pain of playing the first Rise of Nations era ALL the way to the end

in 1 game

[mystic arch]

current war is insane

[grave sonnet]

No

[mystic arch]

axis and commonwealth doing basically all the heavy lifting

[copper sluice]

Actually managed to restore Al Andalus

[fair compass]

the japanese faction being on the side of the commonwealth is crazy..

[mystic arch]

both are fascist

[fair compass]

o

[grave sonnet]

Black Yugoslavia?

[fair compass]

zombified yugoslavia

[grave sonnet]

Or is that the Balkan federa

[copper sluice]

Balkan Federation

[grave sonnet]

Scary...

[grave sonnet]

Just rename it to Yugoslavian federation atp

[copper sluice]

My brother was playing alt fascist germany

[prisma steppe]

like how did the devs manage to break a tech mod with the new dlc? how

[copper sluice]

Well its a bulgaria formable

[ripe slate]

Are you sure it broke?

[mystic arch]

world map on factions and ideology (idk why australia is democratic, it is partway through the fascist path and has no elections)

[prisma steppe]

crashes every time i go to advisors in czechoslovakia

[fair compass]

why are they so bright

ive never seen the factions this bright

[grave sonnet]

I mean Bulgarians are Yugoslavs so yeah mb

[mystic arch]

ideology mapmode

[copper sluice]

It used to include Turkey before I beat them in a war also

[mystic arch]

shows ideology colours

[grave sonnet]

Yeah mb mb

[clever shuttle]

capitulated germany with 72% contribution as czheckoslovakia

[prisma steppe]

for the brief second it doesnt crash there are like 3 advisors instead of the normally in the dlc supposed 16 or something

[copper sluice]

Idk what he was doing tho bcs he had no stability or war support or pp gain

[grave sonnet]

Germany come outside we won't jump you

[prisma steppe]

who invited Lebron and Syria

[fair compass]

why are u at war with lithuania 😭

what did lithuania do

[clever shuttle]

yeah but poland and france sucked

[grave sonnet]

True

[grave sonnet]

Exist mostly

[grave sonnet]

Ask Poland

[prisma steppe]

Poland gets cukced by 90% of the new foci of the new dlcs

austria, hungry, austria-hungry, germany, lithuinia, czechia and so on

[fair compass]

thats every nation 🥀 that isnt a major

[small dragon]

Dinner with Jay-Z.

[clever shuttle]

basically u can make an joint war focus to declare war at germany with france and poland at the same time, but to be able to make that focus you have to make another focus. Which gives you an joint war focus against Lithuania with poland, so poland formed the commonwealth but cuz russia took east poland we could not cap lithuania, so lithuania just later joined mitteleruopa when i started the war

[grave sonnet]

We aren't talking about Poland focus tree but alr

[fair compass]

Ah

[sly sluice]

µ

yo i think i need help

i can't find any of those focuses

[snow rain]

literally in the political tree

[fair compass]

👀

[snow rain]

like the first one of each branch iirc

[sly sluice]

no

not those

[jade ore]

why did the germans take that one state

[sly sluice]

the bail out economy thing

thats a different focus

[snow rain]

the ominous weiner

[jade ore]

just use the search bro

[sly sluice]

i've done it

like

5 times

[jade ore]

capital letters

[snow rain]

it's literally written that you need one of those focus listed

[jade ore]

y is that even a state 💀

[sly sluice]

i know

i can't find them

i searched multiple times

[snow rain]

it's the first focus of each political branch

[sly sluice]

verified the ortograph too

[snow rain]

like the mutually exclusive ones

[sly sluice]

i've done them and can't take the decisions

[snow rain]

please show the focus tree

[jade ore]

counting those pixels

[snow rain]

you picked the only focus path that doesn't need those decisions

you have focuses that get rid of those spirits

[fair compass]

i got my colonies back :3

[jade ore]

with 2 divisions?

[sly sluice]

bruh

[undone vale]

how do i give requested forces from puppets back to them

[jade ore]

delete them

[fair compass]

they're japanese

(im german)

[jade ore]

and they will go back to the puppet

[sly sluice]

why'd they gave me acces to fixing it

[undone vale]

thank

[sly sluice]

if the focus tree is already fixing it for me

[fair compass]

damn its not yugoslavia??

[sly sluice]

classic paradox

[snow rain]

honestly, except if that's on purpose it's probably just coding error where it doesn't disappear

[grave sonnet]

We only join the Chinese United Front

[snow rain]

oh no, I see what happened
you have special units in those, you can delete the regualr troops, but not those special troops

[fair compass]

and then japan somehow naval invades you

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

[snow rain]

it's one of the most annoying thing to happen

[grave sonnet]

And it's always Dubrovnik & Montenegro

[snow rain]

you're condemned to keep these units until they die

[undone vale]

then why is there no way to give them back? this game is over 10 years old, stuff like this shouldnt exist

[sly sluice]

including divided nation? cause it doesn't look like it. can you tell me which focus it is please?

[snow rain]

nope
the game might be 10yo but the DLCs that added special undeletable units are no more than 3 years old

[undone vale]

guess i have vienna garrison of just hungarians then xd

still... 3 years to fix a critical bug like this?

this is a huge dev team, i think it should be expected to not have these issues

[dusky grail]

Wow. Paying for such dogshit focus tree is something

[undone vale]

i like the new focus tree

[dusky grail]

Quite mad how bad that shit is

[sly sluice]

its not as bad as you think it is. just don't make them fight

[snow rain]

technically not a bug as undeletable units were a deliberate decision (albeit an awful one)

[undone vale]

i dont want random ahh units clogging up my generals/UI

[sly sluice]

they give the equipment with the division

so if they don't fight

[undone vale]

oh 😭 guess i have to install the mod then

[sly sluice]

no material loss

[undone vale]

its annoying

[sly sluice]

or atleast very small

[undone vale]

to have them

[sly sluice]

then keep them unnasigned

[undone vale]

its still cloggin up the UX

[dusky grail]

You are on a timer with germany, and so many focuses are tied to research and "redacted for kids automod" ticking efficiency Škoda mechanic.

[undone vale]

just dont play on historical

[sly sluice]

no it doesn't

[undone vale]

peak

[sly sluice]

well

the thing is

[dusky grail]

Germany can still stay nazi and that means you have to restart, it is way worse than vanilla if you stay historical.

[sly sluice]

it does only if you put them somewhere important

[fallen garnet]

I´ve heard line artillery isn´t good, why is that?

[sly sluice]

• no one said you could not use em

[snow rain]

I'm looking for it but can't find it either
I thought I saw a thread about it yersterday on the reddit, might have confused it with something else

[dusky grail]

Hate that colour mod

[undone vale]

too expenisve

[dusky grail]

ew

[undone vale]

ok 👍

[fair horizon]

every time i hear the czech dlc it makes me upset and happy for what the australia dlc is gonna be

[fallen garnet]

what should I use instead, especially for smaller nations with small industry

[undone vale]

this button will never go away. its either this or have some random general assigned, which is also useless UI clog.

[undone vale]

put artillery as support company

[fallen garnet]

well yeah, but my stats still arent good enough

[undone vale]

just make a 3x3 inf block with support artillery and they will hold

[dusky grail]

I was so excited for czech focus tree, but damn, not this tragic thing. But I will try ahistoricall and try that way. Could be better if you have more than 2 years to prepare fighting the strongest nation.

[undone vale]

add AA too if you fight stronger countries

[mystic arch]

so the germans just took bulgaria, which i had claims on, and proceeded to make reichskommisariat balkan

[snow rain]

Line arty takes 3 combat width, cost more IC and resources than guns, has less soft attack than guns per combat width and per ic, scales less than guns, doesn't give HP, Org, Breakthrough, Defense, gives you terrain penalities, consumes a lot of supplies, actively harms recovery rate
Then, it makes advisors less efficient, considering it reduces the proportion of inf in a div, meaning the infantry advisor is less useful. That is less true with countries that start with arty advisors, but there's only 3 of them

[sly sluice]

well its bad mainly if you're playing a small country tbh. yes its kind of wastefull even with a bigger country but one or 2 line arty batalions in a specialised offensive div CAN be good if you don't like playting tanks.

[snow rain]

the lack of breakthrough, defense and HP are especially bad

[fallen garnet]

so I should add AA to this division as sweden? I dont have enough manpower for 3x3 block of inf

[undone vale]

add another row of infantry to the bottom

oh

i didnt read

mb

[mystic arch]

oh come on

[undone vale]

hmm yeah i would add AA

but ive never played sweden so idk

[dusky grail]

Line can be nice if you have lot of buffs, but I never use it much

[fallen garnet]

ahh thx

[snow rain]

16width bare minimum (except if wastelands divs, 12w is fine) or you'll take too many losses
cav recon is a waste of ressources (doesn't do anything)
engineers cost 25% of that whole div. It's too expensive
support AA is mandatory in all situations (except japan vs china situation or extremely early war)

[graceful citrus]

oops

[dusky grail]

ew

[snow rain]

found it, it's the first focus

no idea why you can't use it

[opaque zinc]

Omg you’re kiddingggggg

[fallen garnet]

so to go up to 16 widht should I use inf. or line arty

[opaque zinc]

I DIDNT GET THE ACHIEVMENT BECAUSE I MISCLICKED ONE TIME

[fallen garnet]

cause of my low manpower

[opaque zinc]

I accidentally invited Germany to the war

And they had no troops on the enemy

But when I capped them

They just took a state

And now I can’t get the achievements unless I beat the allies

AS ESTONIA

😭

Im gonna actually lose my mind

This is such an easy achievement

I just keep getting horrible luck

Every single time dude

I have like usually a 20 percent chance of getting a civil war

I almost always get it

So I have to restart

I don’t want half my equipment gone

And I need Finland to not go into civil war

Which is even rarer I don’t know the chance

And then I need to time declaring on Norway perfectly so I don’t cap Sweden yet

[snow rain]

inf

[opaque zinc]

I hate Germany oh my god I hate them oh my god

Why

[snow rain]

#hoi4-general message read

[opaque zinc]

Just why

I was so close

I was so close oh my gosh

Esti es scandi is so easy it’s just my luck bro I’m gonna lose my mind

[fallen garnet]

yeah I´ve seen it, the thing is I have low manpower, will try that tho

[opaque zinc]

I always do 9 infantry support arty and engineer company

And support anti air

For defensive

For offensive it usually depends on the country but it’s always bad

[snow rain]

the engi cost 20% of that div

[opaque zinc]

My offensive for Australia was 3 infantry 1 line artillery

Because I was doing Australia Hungary

And the soviets just carry me

[fallen garnet]

what other kind of support companies are good?

[mystic arch]

really wish i had more political power

the fight against the soviets has basically became a stalemate here

idk why

[sly venture]

niceee

[mystic arch]

would it be possible to do the imperial federation and then go down the monarchist path?

i'm thinking not because of the dominions leaving in the run-up to the royal marriage

[vital cove]

yes

[vital cove]

you retake the dominions

you can trigger civil wars in them

that will become your puppets

[mystic arch]

that requires the monarchist path

[clever shuttle]

op czeckoslovakia

[mystic arch]

also if i wanted to do that now how the hell do i get the stockpiled infantry equipment to do that

or the political power

[vital cove]

why are yoi staging coup

you have a focus

for that

you're not supposed to do it manually

[mystic arch]

i need stockpiled infantry equipment

which i clearly lack

[vital cove]

.

[mystic arch]

ok but i still am

i did it to france and that caused them to get crushed after a stalemate for a year

[vital cove]

and then you're left with an independent france just with other ideology

[mystic arch]

also there is a decision after staging a coup against a colony to get them as an integrated puppet

i am also in axis

i mean my main issue rn is the USSR

we are winning but in a stalemate

time to be at a stalemate with japan instead of the USSR

love myself a 3 way war

[green moss]

Oswald Mosley lowkey got tired of fascism

[mystic arch]

what is the NSDAP doing in britain

[green moss]

Mosley rebelled against RK Britain

[mystic arch]

ah

what the hell is CPGB up to

oh it's apparently going down now because of churchill

[green moss]

They want to eat the rich

[mystic arch]

why is nobody advancing

i also have really low stability and war support for some reason

[sly venture]

naval invasion after naval invasion we are getting closer

[misty fossil]

@scenic pulsar if i play cognoscenti with other mods does it prevent me from getting renovatio imperii

[wide osprey]

what the dog doin

[misty fossil]

nvm i can

[mystic arch]

this war is brutal

[vernal lake]

someojne teach me how2 naval invasion pls

[fossil dragon]

you have the tech?

[mystic arch]

YEAHH

FRANCE NAVAL INVADED AFRICA!

WE ARE WINNING THIS!

[fossil dragon]

tbh I forgot this exist

but nice

[mystic arch]

thanks 'murica

[vernal lake]

Yes i have transport tech

[fossil dragon]

okey so maybe is the dominance you need 60% now insted of 50%

[vernal lake]

pls

What is dominacne

can u expalin

[fossil dragon]

put all your ships on do not engage (except if you can defeat enemy navy) and put them on patrol in the sea zone where you want to invade

[vernal lake]

Theres no enemy ships in my route

[vernal lake]

i patrol them sea

[fossil dragon]

even if there is no enemy you still need some of yours to be there

[fossil dragon]

if you in game can you click on sea zone whit invasion plan and screenshot the box that pops up

[hushed olive]

@humble dragon @pliant wadi whats the mod? i wanna join in

@acoustic bronze

actually nvm

[acoustic bronze]

we rehost

[pliant wadi]

check channel

[fossil dragon]

but it's just putting ships on patrol and waiting for them to gain dominance you don't even have to fight the enemy

[hushed olive]

found it

[vernal lake]

Alr i putted them on patrol

Is this bad

does dominance improve overtime

and when i click arrow will it just auto load my troops there?

[fossil dragon]

okey now wait for that to hit 30/30 and for getting 150 dominance

yes it does improve over time it takes like a week I belive

[vernal lake]

yessir

[acoustic wasp]

guys quick, if i justify war against dutch east indies and try to take the netherlands as the german military junta, but in 35 days i'll go down the communist path, will the war justification remain active throughout or will i have to rejustify again once the new leader comes in power?

[fossil dragon]

and before you land use force attack it's just 90% you'll land insted of 50%

assuming enemy has costal garrison

[acoustic wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448605516271190069/1471252264629829902/IMG_1822.gif

[fossil dragon]

if not you won

[acoustic wasp]

nvm i cant even justify

[fossil dragon]

it stays no matter ideology or the leader

[acoustic wasp]

noted

[fossil dragon]

i justifay as adolf have a civil war and it stays

[pale lark]

whos up for a 3v3

[hard depot]

Eh, who cares anyway?

[acoustic wasp]

i didnt justify as adolf sadly, now i'll never be able to justify before the british guarantee it, hopefully they turn fascist or communist or something

amen

[hard depot]

Aint my problem in Europe.

[mystic arch]

idk where all our fuel is going

[lofty adder]

Hi

Yes

[vernal lake]

is this ragebait its been 148 up and down

[trim plume]

this war between these 2 morons has gone on for like 8 months already

[lofty adder]

Ok

[trim plume]

none of them are winning

its js an even front

[lofty adder]

Wow

[trim plume]

they gain and lose fronts

not even like

[lofty adder]

Omaygad

[fossil dragon]

yeah to be honest it is but what can you do except put more ships

[vernal lake]

ok

[frigid magnet]

are you playing the femboy bavaria mod

[vernal lake]

game ragebaiting me

[fossil dragon]

at this point a bathtub is fine

[trim plume]

playing as a country that hopefully wont go into a civilwar because of the femboys

but yes

[fossil dragon]

if you need to build just build fast cheap destroyer

[trim plume]

ik

but the thing is

[fossil dragon]

I will lead them

[trim plume]

japan kinda sucks so i don't think i have to worry

[frigid magnet]

who on earth loads the femboy bavaria mod and NOT play as bavaria

[trim plume]

me bro

i like loading in mods specifically targetting a country

then letting the ai play it

to see what they pick

[fossil dragon]

not bad idea have to try the same

[frigid magnet]

whatever floats your boat brodie

[fossil dragon]

at some point watching AI get destroyed is more fun then playing the game

[trim plume]

watch that one tile

wow actually this time the polish didn't lose it

germans*

nvm spoke to soon

[fossil dragon]

they took another tile

you lose some you win some

[trim plume]

poland took a tile from germany

and then lost it

what is this utter baboonery

[fossil dragon]

any idea how to get en sveks tiger since germany don't research them at all

like i waited to 1955 and they did everything except a tiger like what are they doing

[trim plume]

play as germany

i guess?

erm thats strange

[fossil dragon]

ofcorse they go astafalo

or however you spell it corectly

[trim plume]

astolfo

[fossil dragon]

yeah English is not my first language

[mystic arch]

ok i am genuinely being denied points for participation in wars

also germany took india bangladesh and pakistan instead of me?

[merry compass]

Is it only me who use infantry templete for the entire army

[fossil dragon]

let's go another one who thinks tanks are overrated

[frigid magnet]

not even just a few tanks?

[merry compass]

Not even a few tank

[mystic arch]

hehe

[fossil dragon]

to be honest I don't care about "meta" 9/1 whit support arty, engenires and suppoert AA are just fine to push

and like 3K CAS

[frigid magnet]

literally every country i play i use 9/1's

[fossil dragon]

true if it works it works

[mystic arch]

huh

[sly sluice]

wtf?

[mystic arch]

also would a MP game where every country is player controlled be possible?

[sly sluice]

germany banned me from HOI4????

[dry sleet]

8/1 personally or 10/1 with inf width reduction

[sly sluice]

we went at war and then my game just closed

[fossil dragon]

technicly yes but it would crash every 10 minutes

[sly sluice]

not even crashed

there was not crash report

no*

[mystic arch]

the real wunderwaffe

destroying reality

[acoustic wasp]

literally 1 day before my war goal was done they had no one guaranteeing shit, the millisecond it's done 2 nations im about to go to war with immediately guarantee it

cringe

and the UK stayed democratic even after a prolonged civil war

even more cringe

[fossil dragon]

maybe netherlands since they are a puppet of them

[trim plume]

if you literally

don't press the pause button

the milisecond

you get a war declaration

[mystic arch]

love the names of these wars

[trim plume]

you lose

[acoustic wasp]

i justified on indies to generate less world tension, i was going to invade the netherlands anyways then add the resource rights on the indies in the conference

[trim plume]

also looks like big bavaria is attacking czechoslovakia
romania didn't join

[fossil dragon]

yeah but you also have wargoal on the netherlands since you justifayed at their puppet

[fossil dragon]

you can attack the netherlands

[acoustic wasp]

i will attack and annex the netherlands and i wont get the indies in the peace conference

[mystic arch]

what would you guys call this version of the axis?

[acoustic wasp]

tried it before

they must have no one guaranteeing them

[trim plume]

man in the high castle

w/o japan

[fossil dragon]

you will but netherlands have to call them in

first

[acoustic wasp]

how do i get that to happen then

[fossil dragon]

be at war whit netherlands and wait for indonesia to join in

[acoustic wasp]

i really need a butt load of fighters rn because none of the rng has played in my favour

communist italians died

france didnt turn commie

UK didnt turn commie

it's basically a nazi playthrough but with a year of civil war

fun

[fossil dragon]

if you don't want achivments just put them to commi before starting game in custom settings

[acoustic wasp]

will they join or will i just wait forever and get invaded

[acoustic wasp]

im playing iron man

[fossil dragon]

oh okey

[fossil dragon]

no they sould join but i see you using some mods so maybe is that

[crystal marsh]

nearly a whole 24h of suffering 🥹

[acoustic wasp]

the mods are just visuals the only 2 mods that add anything is one that automates the trading and one that adds ceasefire mechanics

nothing else

[fossil dragon]

feel you

[fossil dragon]

then they sould join

[acoustic wasp]

so hold on do i declare on the indies or declare on netherlands itself

[crystal marsh]

i am never as much as touching the philippines again

[fossil dragon]

netherlands

[fossil dragon]

yeah like it's pain

[crystal marsh]

great, another 5 months of waiting

[acoustic wasp]

although declaring on the indies will have me easily smack mussolini and turn italy communist but ok fighters are more important

[trim plume]

bummarine bro

[fossil dragon]

and UK to so is it worth it

[fair compass]

why does this division spawn on the goddamn lake 😭

[fossil dragon]

how it took me to 1961

[acoustic wasp]

yeah gang im not turning UK communist with 20 divisions in 1937

[crystal marsh]

bruh

did you go the macarthur route

[fossil dragon]

yeah

[crystal marsh]

its so much quicker as the hispanic empire

im telling you

[trim plume]

oh HEELL nawh

[fossil dragon]

just forot to start research on nuclear until 1944 so my bad

[crystal marsh]

bruh

[fair compass]

femboyvaria is crazy

[acoustic wasp]

great

no dutch east indies

netherlands joined the allies

lmao

it's wraps

[trim plume]

its over

[fossil dragon]

well GG mate

[acoustic wasp]

OHHHH

THE COMMUNIST ITALIANS WERE THE ONES GUARANTEEING

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

yeah im reloading

gg

im gonna justify as mustache bro before overthrowing him

[fossil dragon]

yeah but do it on indonesia as well

[acoustic wasp]

yeah i know i know

[trim plume]

so uhh just a small question can germany still win this?

[acoustic wasp]

i have almost 500 hours, i never once played britian

[fossil dragon]

they cooked

[acoustic wasp]

like genuinely the most cringe nation in the game

just a beefy navy and nothing else

by the time you can navally invade

bam they run to canada

[misty fossil]

Does anyone here play tfr

[fossil dragon]

I did for achivments but nothing more

[acoustic wasp]

now you have to waste 2 years to get to them

genuinely the cringiest nation in the game ever

[trim plume]

laggiest game in history

but yeah

[fossil dragon]

did it once, hated the trees not being there all the time and closed it

[trim plume]

fart sfx

[fossil dragon]

like why i have 10 focuses and then more show up i want entire tree at once

[misty fossil]

I want to know if like

i want to get the renovatio imperii achievement

[trim plume]

no

don't even bro

[misty fossil]

Why

[fossil dragon]

Mr. AI pls explain this

[misty fossil]

Does it disable to achievement if i cheat

[acoustic wasp]

what is even going on here

what are you playing as

[fossil dragon]

it's mod called famboyvaria or something like that and you can't even core slovenia

[misty fossil]

@trim plume

[trim plume]

wdym cheat

use console commands?

[misty fossil]

Yeah

[fossil dragon]

yes man it does disable it

[acoustic wasp]

i was also wondering why there is a femboy kingdom on the map

[misty fossil]

and mods that lets you get a bunch of bonuses

[misty fossil]

really

Fair

what about like

[trim plume]

idk

[misty fossil]

using mods to cheat

[fossil dragon]

even a simple colored puppets mod disables them

[misty fossil]

Really?

that sucks

[fossil dragon]

you need ironman active and no mods

[misty fossil]

Oh im sorry i mean modded achievements

[fossil dragon]

I mean it's fair

[misty fossil]

Not official pdx achievements

[fossil dragon]

oh IDK about those

[misty fossil]

lol

oh well

[trim plume]

i tried cheat mods with owb before

[fossil dragon]

only mods I play are millenium dawn and Great war redux

[trim plume]

i got an achievement for having nukes as a non-major

you should try though

[misty fossil]

mkay

i havent been paying attention so idk

tfr discord is under lockdown rn apparently

so i cant join it

Probs some big drama going on there

[fossil dragon]

to be honest I'm suprised mod didn't got taken down

[trim plume]

2nd tfr civilwar

they already had one

[crystal marsh]

19 bloody years.

[trim plume]

none of these stupid bum ass countries have manpower anymore

are they stupid

[fossil dragon]

first target: London since they guarante everyone

[fossil dragon]

yay I live in femboy kingdom now

[trim plume]

oh no

[unreal canyon]

just realized

why are my austrian generals wearing german uniforms

at least 4/5th or so of them

[crystal marsh]

wish i had the range

[fossil dragon]

docking rights

[trim plume]

hey guys new balkans here

don't mind polands comically large boot

[crystal marsh]

nah i aint risking it

19 hoi years arent going to waste

[fossil dragon]

understandable

[crystal marsh]

big red button

🥹

[trim plume]

press it

press da but

erm what is this

[crystal marsh]

sorry malayabros

had to get the achievement

[acoustic wasp]

took them mid civil war lol just slapped the militia to hold the line and took my 16 infantry units and just nuked holland in 2 days and went back again @fossil dragon

[mystic arch]

what.

[fossil dragon]

nice

[fossil dragon]

at this point who knows

[fair compass]

Me when romania decides to ruin my hungary run by Joining the little entente and then invading me

[blazing nova]

How does the navy work, when I assign my ships like old they just don’t do anything 😢

[compact warren]

how can i train encirclement in hoi4 pls ?

[frigid magnet]

i genuinely havent done a raid ever

[mystic arch]

i honestly think nukes need a bigger impact

[hollow shoal]

chinese maginot line but its actually useful

even tho i dont have lots of divisions im winning vs new china, japan, vietnam

and all the troops are trained from the starter rank and have the newest weapons n equipment and my construction speed is literally thro the roof

they tried to like attack from vietnam n stuff but they cant break thro and they tried to attack thro new china and my allies pushed them back while im just defending hard

[hollow shoal]

The emperor XD

[raven lotus]

yep

[hollow shoal]

Im planing on forming the chinese empire but i first gotta take care of japan

ive got forts too lol

only way theyre beating me is if the allies lose ww2 and they attack me from india

otherwise im fine

[frank estuary]

Where's my achievement?

[mystic arch]

what would you call this version of the axis?

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-we-get-here-minecraft-achievement-advancement-gif-25679370

Greater Axis maybe

Or the Axis Federation or sum idk

[last geyser]

unholy alliance 🙏

[indigo elk]

Is there any point in keeping T1 subs?

[hollow shoal]

and theyre attacking form burma

gotta re make the fallback line

[bright forum]

I love Strategic Bombing.

I don't care if it's bad, or if it's good.

I love it.

I want to build up as the UK and turn Nazi buildings into rubble.

I will drop nukes on them.

I want to turn the Krauts into dust.

[mystic arch]

will this ship be useful?

tbh i feel like it will js obliterate stuff

[atomic grove]

yes

put that with ur navy and a bunch of light cruisers with highest light attack possible and your navy can obliterate anything

[sly sluice]

fak

so huh

ykonw how i was playing checkoslovakia

well

i think i put so much resistance to germany that they just

didn't declare war on poland

so

none of the allies are in the war

but im actually holding up pretty good

the only thing that scares me is i think they have the industry to just

stay at war forever with me

well

until the MEFO catches up to them atleast

so huh

here's the map

all of austria is my cores btw

so germany can't core it.

[stark elbow]

bro you could have written all ts in 2 messages 😭

[ember vine]

Everybody playing czechoslovakia now lmao

[brave bison]

what is russia doing in nato bro

[acoustic wasp]

Iron man
Historical
go socialist germany and take the netherlands during the civil war because im done struggling on rubber
Lithuania for no reason decides to declare war against poland and join the comitern a day later
Stalin kills poland and is suddenly possessed by trotsky and surrounds himself with communist puppets
USSR agrees to the spheres of influence
Still wont give me poland
Cant declare on poland because i have a NAP with papa Stalin
ok fine let me take hungary and then attack czechoslovakia from the south
UK guaranteeing FASCIST Hungary
idec anymore
They throw 48 divisions at the supply depot in budapest
Lose hope and make my own supply depot
Hungary after losing 70% of it's land mass decides to declare war on Czechoslovakia
Romania declares war on hungary and just marches in so i full send on the Supply depot on Budapest and get it
France declares war on Hungary
UK declares war on France for Hungary
2 democratic nations going crazy over 1 Fascist minor
Sit and watch them kill each other and nuke their navies
Fun

[mystic arch]

guess the year

[brave bison]

how do you like

hide the hud

[mystic arch]

ctrl + F9

works in all PDX games

[brave bison]

thanks

[mystic arch]

but yeah guess the year

[brave bison]

1955

[mystic arch]

close

[brave bison]

56

[mystic arch]

colder

[brave bison]

54

[mystic arch]

warmer

[brave bison]

52

[mystic arch]

warmer

[brave bison]

53

[mystic arch]

colder

[brave bison]

50

[mystic arch]

warmer

[brave bison]

yo how early did u achieve this

51

[mystic arch]

'51

[brave bison]

damn

[mystic arch]

germany doing most of the heavy lifting

although i have lost a lot of my divisions to the USA

and my main job now is js nuking the US and canada

[snow rain]

Pick historical AI
Does quite a lot of ahistorical decisions
Is surprised AI strays away from historical setting

Yeah that's entirely normal

[mystic arch]

i think in this run at least 100 million soldiers have died

[brave bison]

is there gon be a civil war or will they accept to become communists

[acoustic wasp]

i play as commie germany quite a lot never seen France go to war with the British

[mystic arch]

excuse me

[brave bison]

cheated on 3 elections already

[mystic arch]

also yeah it is slowing down a lot

[acoustic wasp]

jus go to war with them ez

[brave bison]

dude

id go to war

with

80%

of the world

[mystic arch]

also is Mutapa a south african formable?

[mystic arch]

is this modded?

[brave bison]

no

[mystic arch]

you can get nato in vanilla?

[acoustic wasp]

latinos be chillin

[brave bison]

yes

i think its a dlc

not sure tho i bought the game in a pack with like 10 dlcs

[acoustic wasp]

[mystic arch]

so is that why this setting exists

still idk why NATO symbols can be disabled

[wraith crow]

These borders are good?? (I'm Austria-Hungary)

[brave bison]

no

[mystic arch]

do you need to be austria or hungary to form Austro-Hungarian empire

[wraith crow]

In RT56 is hungary, idk if is the same in vanilla

[mystic arch]

oh are you playing RT56?

[brave bison]

whats the point of having those isolated states in russia

dont they just take ur manpower for compliance

[wraith crow]

to connect my border with the borders of my puppet in russia

[stark elbow]

valid opportunity to start a peak world war

[brave bison]

what abt the one near moscow

[wraith crow]

idk what I was thinking with that one

[mystic arch]

is RT56 good?

[wraith crow]

yeah, it's a good

it's is good*

[stark elbow]

anyone knows a mod that makes puppets as the same color as the owner? i just feel like it would give a more realistic look, like german reichskommisariats

[wraith crow]

have a lot of new Focus trees

[ripe slate]

Awesome mod 🙃

[mystic arch]

are you literally a dev of the mod?

[ripe slate]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1085252317&searchtext=colored+puppets

[stark elbow]

TYSM

[wraith crow]

RT56 is literally the work of DLCs, but free

so yh

[mystic arch]

a bit confused by this country

[stark elbow]

never been in z?

could be zarist russia or sum

[mystic arch]

where are you from
oh im from Z
what.jpg

[ripe slate]

Road only has English text by default so that screenshot isnt base Road

[vague steppe]

how hard is this to do

[stark elbow]

wym what.jpg
what.png

[mystic arch]

btw is Kaiserreich or Kaiserredux better?

[ivory hull]

redux

[south mountain]

Depends

Kaiserreich is for things that make sense

Kaiserredux is for things that don't make sense

[stark elbow]

its like the fire rises
but why isnt there the fire lowers?

[mystic arch]

also is there a version of TNO that still has stuff like burgundy?

[mystic arch]

i like TFR

i mainly play Loji's China

[stark elbow]

sick mod, tho knowing that a run could occupy an entire afternoon i may refuse to start one

[mystic arch]

meanwhile vanilla hoi4 taking just as long

[stark elbow]

maybe you are right

well vanilla its kinda simple js spam infantry and hope you dont get capitulated

(just wrote historical ussr)

[mystic arch]

i like tanks

[stark elbow]

i hate tanks bc they take up lots of industry tho i know they have the potential

[mystic arch]

ngl i hate having to get aluminium

i want to do a rise of nations run

but i am scared of the lag

[hollow shoal]

ez defence

[hollow shoal]

rise of nations is peak not gonna lie

i got like 3m xp there lol

if ur talking abt the roblox version

[clever shuttle]

Open the window, Germany

[tulip thorn]

I hope they are talking about the mod

That game is so bad

[hollow shoal]

never tried modded hoi4 just been running on vanilla for so long although i would like to try the fire rises

[hollow shoal]

i used to play it bc i didnt know how to play hoi4 XD

i mean im still not great rn but hoi4 is far better than that

[tulip thorn]

it used to be kinda mid, a fun brainless game. But its trying way to hard to be hoi4

Like way to hard

[hollow shoal]

I agree even the ranks of soldiers look like hoi4

[barren drum]

What happened to the coastline...?

[hollow shoal]

btw what can i do there ive been in this position for a good 2h and japan cant break thro or attack me

[weak magnet]

the worst divisions are the best

[hollow shoal]

We do NOT talk about the coastline

[clever shuttle]

now its game fr, all of the blue ones are at war with the black

[clever shuttle]

wait wrong ss

[mystic arch]

wth is mitteleuropa

also this has got to be some sort of mod

[tulip thorn]

Looks to be vanilla

[hollow shoal]

id what else to research i have max industry and max engineering

[tulip thorn]

With a few graphic mods

Actually

Just seems to be pure vanilla

[hollow shoal]

should i get the fire rises mod? is it gud?

[tulip thorn]

I personally dont like it and think its mid

But overall is fine

[clever shuttle]

i think u forgot the first world war

[mystic arch]

oh yeah lol

[hollow shoal]

ty ty

[robust vale]

NO

NO

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD

[mystic arch]

so let me get this straight

he lasers forwards

the building behind him collapses

and a Z falls on it and somehow lands perfectly upright

[misty fossil]

they call him Z man

[mystic arch]

he also conjures a russian flag

[pearl raptor]

i just relized that USA dosent have a Content that is Big as its Area

Skeleton Content...

So USA DLC WHEN

[robust vale]

next DLC

it has to be

USA Canada Ireland UK

these 3 need new focuses

4*

Can't count

[winged field]

Shout-out to that single Ireland player 🤙

[robust vale]

Come out ye black and tans

come out and fight me like a man

show your wife how you won medals down in flanders

tell her how the IRA made you run like hell away

from the green and lovely lanes of Killashandra

[winged field]

Thankfully Ireland doesn't exist. It's just a fairytale

[clever shuttle]

nice

[lofty adder]

1 Km

[sly sluice]

this is rocking so damn hard

only problem is industry

[ivory hull]

why did you lose almost as much as china?

[lofty adder]

Because japanese army is liberation army

China annexed by terrorist nazi china

China is historical japanese territory

Our army is heroes

[ivory hull]

i think you just did it wrong broski

[lofty adder]

Wow

This is my first win in China im tried 5 times

[acoustic wasp]

1.77M dead before this smol cleanup, lets see now

300k

not bad

[lofty adder]

Hi

Im first time won in China

🇨🇳

🇹🇼

[acoustic wasp]

wassap

[lofty adder]

Hi