hoi4-general

[snow rain]

fix your deficits and logistics first

you're not going anywhere without those two

[knotty vortex]

HELL YEAH

COMMUNISM PREVAILS

[lofty adder]

Im need off autoplan yes

[crimson depot]

Ty

[vernal lake]

is there any General visual mod for thailand? how can i find one?

[lofty adder]

What

[vernal lake]

i mean like thailand have 2 general face and different names lol or i might be missing smth

[zealous lynx]

To find a gap in the lines

[snow rain]

then it's too big and lacking support companies

[zealous lynx]

Its a horse division

Not support company

[snow rain]

38 width is big max
32 if it's gonna just snake around with marshes and mountains in the area

[snow rain]

what

you need support company

if you just want to snake just use 16 width cav

[zealous lynx]

Bro we need horses

[snow rain]

why make it big if it's just for snaking around

[zealous lynx]

Emotional support

Also the horses are electric

[snow rain]

if it's gonna do anything else but snake you need support companies. Period

[zealous lynx]

And use no fuel

[zealous lynx]

We dont use soldiers

Its just horses

We trained the horses to pick up guns

[lapis snow]

EAW moment

[zealous lynx]

More like

Hear this

Horses picking up guns moment

Anyways

No soldiers just horses

Maybe if horses where a support company

We'd use them

As you can see on the icons theres no soldiers on the horses

[lapis snow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1449942974019670066/1458462764501827644/JSBF_9XVATAAS7_YNB8HE.gif

[hollow shoal]

not even einstein could think of this

[fast slate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884603423457148999/1297213432336089150/image0.gif

[knotty vortex]

one of the nicest partitionings of germany ive ever seen

i love my lil puppet

finno-russian germany

[zealous lynx]

You need to take good care of your puppets

[knotty vortex]

lol who do you think i am

they tried bringing facism to europe

so i take their resources and mils ❤️

[zealous lynx]

Shh

Im doing it so they do more industry research

Then ill just annex them

[knotty vortex]

for the people of course ⚒️

[zealous lynx]

We acting like we all not gonna eat our puppets

[zealous lynx]

Wtf is the hungarian federal republic

[knotty vortex]

democratically liberated hungary

[zealous lynx]

Non-aligned supremacy

[knotty vortex]

this is the communist influence in europe lol

i need to try swaying my allies to communism

[hollow shoal]

i hate the polish thingy in the middle of russia it would be better ot have a soviet poland as a puppet

[knotty vortex]

then crushing the USSR

[knotty vortex]

it is soviet poland

[hollow shoal]

ye but its like 1 tile

[knotty vortex]

yeah its pathetic lol

[hollow shoal]

Ik but i meant a bigger poland XD

[knotty vortex]

im gonna try crush the USSR then create a very nicely partitioned eastern bloc

[hollow shoal]

who you playing as?

[knotty vortex]

communist finland

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/how-did-we-get-here-minecraft-achievement-advancement-gif-25679370

how hard was it to beat the ussr in the war?

[knotty vortex]

about that

i just signed a non-aggression pact

[frail bolt]

Then USSR breaks the pact by declaring war

[hollow shoal]

so u js still own the normal lands at the start

[knotty vortex]

yep

[hollow shoal]

Dang

Das crazy

[snow rain]

gosh I hate that flag

[knotty vortex]

lmao

i gotta figure out how to beat the soviets

ive never done it before

[hollow shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[snow rain]

don't train your fleet with no fuel btw
less xp

[knotty vortex]

and here is my production...

[hollow shoal]

i couldnt agree more

[knotty vortex]

ignore my manpower issue.

[lofty adder]

Hi

[knotty vortex]

you reminded me i stole germanys entire navy

[lofty adder]

Is this good tnak

[snow rain]

why 3 mils on arty

[snow rain]

nope

[knotty vortex]

was gonna do line arty mountaineers

but

[hollow shoal]

Btw is it bad that i literally refuse to use tanks when playing as any country?

[knotty vortex]

i didnt get round too it

[snow rain]

why :(

[hollow shoal]

i like infantry more

[knotty vortex]

because its sp and line arty honestly works

[snow rain]

you are finland, you're short on manpower
trading HP for soft atk isn't a good idea when you're limited in manpower

[snow rain]

but it's not working because it's good

it's meh at best

[lofty adder]

What is this

[snow rain]

just add more mountaineers

[hollow shoal]

also in the spanish civil war i literally cant beat them i tried as nationalist then normal spain and i literally cant win any of those wars for some reason it always appears that my soulders are weaker

[knotty vortex]

i mean i didnt even make them

[snow rain]

easy maintenance, maintenance company 1939, use radio if you don't have it

[knotty vortex]

this is mine

[lofty adder]

im get this

[wide osprey]

wtf is this piss on my finland

[misty fossil]

thats an image

[misty fossil]

i think ur gonna want some reliability with that few factories

gonna suck losing them the moment it snows

[lapis snow]

the guy has already won and has 1.3k of them, I think it's fine

[trim plume]

operation shock and awe

ahh template

[misty fossil]

get mechanised twin

[ivory hull]

spgs give more soft attack

[misty fossil]

imagine using mech in the big 44

[knotty vortex]

i have 30 factories on them now

[misty fossil]

cool

[lofty adder]

im not researching spg

[misty fossil]

nvm then

[snow rain]

don't forget to change the designation

SPG better than normal tank

[misty fossil]

i said mechanised not spg

half tracks

motorised but has armour

if that even makes sense

[trim plume]

motorised

armor

ah yes

not for their speed or anything

for their ARMOR

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[lofty adder]

Spg is this?

[trim plume]

ive never seen anyone use motorized for armor

[knotty vortex]

so like what do i do about this whole problem

[trim plume]

no thats sup-how

[misty fossil]

do you even understand what i said

i said mechanised is motorised but it has armour

hoi4 players arent beating the illiteracy allegations man

[trim plume]

im not that illiterate

more like the sentence was very very vague for me to understand

im a white man

[misty fossil]

hi not that illiterate im dad

[knotty vortex]

this conversation is painful to read

wait i play hoi4 i cant read

[trim plume]

look buddy we're walking

the road

of despair

(mistake saved)

[misty fossil]

we play hoi4 we're all mentally ill to some capacity anyway

lmao

[snow rain]

change this to the explosion (SPG), and change the template as well

[knotty vortex]

read the tooltip how do i beat ussr as finland

no shortcuts

make no mistakes

[misty fossil]

i dont know

[trim plume]

UHHH

i can't type

sorry

[misty fossil]

i played finland once and i just gave up because it was boring

[willow gull]

what do yall even use SPG for

[trim plume]

soft

[misty fossil]

soft attac

[trim plume]

its like penetrating a castle with like 9000 orbital lasers

i would have used ANOTHER analogy

[trim plume]

but erm

see this is paradox

[knotty vortex]

hoi players vs attention span

[misty fossil]

i love soft attack maxxing

[knotty vortex]

my spg softattack mogs urs

[trim plume]

wow i love 09127380912783421809312 numbers

[misty fossil]

nah i dont remember what happened

[trim plume]

its so goooood

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-billions-must-smile-happiness-gif-3728339258625459883

[trim plume]

also who is this commander

77% bonus

[snow rain]

RIVETED armor

Never anything else

[trim plume]

no

pick not riveted armor

trust me

its not that expensive

[snow rain]

do you want to pay 20% more for nothing ? I certainly don't

[misty fossil]

buh cat

[trim plume]

whats his skill

[trim plume]

this is paradox

bro

[snow rain]

based commander

[trim plume]

we follow the most expensive answer

[misty fossil]

it says right there

hes skill 9

[lofty adder]

Im change templa

[trim plume]

operation deleto removo bro

what is THIS

[misty fossil]

get MECHANISED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

francis tell him

[trim plume]

thats

literally

is that amphib

crazy

[misty fossil]

yes

i can stack uh

special forces attack

[knotty vortex]

i bought a property in the ussr

and what they do for you

is

[trim plume]

they garrison ur building

[snow rain]

support companies, ideally, should be :
logistics, hospital, assault engineers (not armored engineers), medium flame tank, light tank recon

currently, you have support arty, rocket arty and radio that are basically worthless

[trim plume]

and declare that its all for the proletariat

[knotty vortex]

no they give you no iphone

[trim plume]

no no

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[trim plume]

see\

[lofty adder]

Hi

Do you know im have 400 hours in hoi 4

[trim plume]

you guys are wrong

we are changing ideologies from nationalism to fascism

[snow rain]

add logistics (if you have air superiority) or support AA

[lofty adder]

Im found this now

[misty fossil]

and i have 1200

[knotty vortex]

holy frick i need mechanised

that soft attack

jeez

[lofty adder]

You can add speed to motorizated cars

[misty fossil]

exactly

good job

[lofty adder]

Do you know this

[misty fossil]

do you know you can make 4ic mechanised using that same mechanic?

[snow rain]

is that vanilla though ?

[misty fossil]

nope

its not

[lofty adder]

this is dlcs

[snow rain]

gimme a sec

[cedar lance]

this is my latest estonia game

[knotty vortex]

hoi4 players vs screenshots

[misty fossil]

can you take a screenshot

[lapis snow]

pretty sure its R56

[knotty vortex]

is 1944 too late to start producing mech trucks

lol

[zealous lynx]

WHAT is denmark bro

[lapis snow]

nice cheats

[zealous lynx]

I hate these fictional countries

[cedar lance]

alr

[snow rain]

also me when I use "manpower" command
no shame in doing whatever you like in singleplayer, but don't brag about it when using cheats

[cedar lance]

i didnt brag

[jade ore]

who does bro think they are

[misty fossil]

nah let him be

[knotty vortex]

id be more concerned about the convoys

[misty fossil]

its funny

[trim plume]

its a player

its over

france is DOOMED

[lofty adder]

mechanised divisions using this cars?

[misty fossil]

its france

[jade ore]

its ai

aussa is COOKED

[misty fossil]

go to infantry research tab and you should see the half track mechanised techs in there

[jade ore]

its next to the trucks

[trim plume]

go to motorized tab

and press the motorized button

[snow rain]

it uses mechanized, not motorized

[trim plume]

continue

the truck

[snow rain]

also, you're not playing vanilla at all,

[trim plume]

k

its right THERE

[snow rain]

we can't give you good templates if you don't tell us the mod bro ...

[lapis snow]

definitely R56

[lofty adder]

im using only r56

[misty fossil]

rise of nations

[snow rain]

for all we know we just told you to use a template that won't work

[snow rain]

IT'S A BIG ASS MOD

[trim plume]

its over

[lofty adder]

no

[trim plume]

oh its easy

[snow rain]

it's literally a total conversion mod !

[trim plume]

js use the vanilla templates

like

its like

[misty fossil]

its literally just vanilla revamped

[trim plume]

normal

[snow rain]

rt56 is way more than that

[trim plume]

why is bro crying about rt56

they add like

8 focus updates

every EON

[misty fossil]

lol

[trim plume]

and like 6 civs and 2 mil factories

[lapis snow]

it changes literally every aspect of the balance

[trim plume]

every 12 years

[snow rain]

AI has decent tanks in rt56

[misty fossil]

it does?

oh well

[jade ore]

why would you give them a template that cant beat "decent" tanks anyway

[misty fossil]

i should play rt some time

[snow rain]

there's more support companies, more buffs and debuffs, more techs ...

[trim plume]

https://tenor.com/view/triple-baka-triple-baka-confetti-gif-5295088485785305637

[snow rain]

because in vanilla singleplayer there is no decent tank, ever, on the ai side

[jade ore]

well maybe give them actual goodtemplates to prepare them for mp

[snow rain]

in vanilla hoi, average ai tanks has 300 soft, 200 hard, 800 breakthrough and around 150 HP

with 40% hardness

it's hardly something to ever worry about

[coral gorge]

nah its their weak production on tanks that made the tanks bad

those stats themselves aren't that much of an issue

even vanilla ai germany can afford template with 66 armor in 1940

[lapis snow]

the best vanilla AI templates aren't complete shite but they don't get told to use them until late game and don't have the eco to build them until even later

[coral gorge]

they just can't produce enough

[trim plume]

we glazing the ai

atp

[knotty vortex]

does this look okay?

[trim plume]

stick to the agenda br

[knotty vortex]

im in serious trouble for manpower and idk what to do

[trim plume]

this is good although atleast have 1 tank destroyer

in it

[knotty vortex]

no spg supremacy

[lapis snow]

naw, sheep knows it better than almost anyone and I've dug around in modding the AI enough myself to understand some of it

it's not some mystery

[trim plume]

then why is it still stupid

[misty fossil]

show me ur doctrines

[lapis snow]

pdx gimps it to make the game playable for plebs

[coral gorge]

PDX actually gimps AI in so many ways

[misty fossil]

i would agree

[coral gorge]

they don't need to do anything since like at least 60% or sth games are still in civilian diff

[lapis snow]

really?

[trim plume]

why do higher diffs js give debuffs

[misty fossil]

make players get like 900% buffs to everything but the ai uses sheep ai or something

[coral gorge]

because buff/debuff actually makes more sense especially from design perspective

[snow rain]

very good

[misty fossil]

lmao

[lapis snow]

lazy approach to diff balancing

[jade ore]

sheeeeepbroo whens the new mod update 🥺

[trim plume]

bread tastes better than key

[coral gorge]

you cannot make any logical AI-based difficulty or difficulty-based AI system

it is not even because laziness

you just can't

[trim plume]

so stellaris has the same issue with ai?

[coral gorge]

yeah all strategy games do roughly the same thing

the amount of things you can tweak are very limited

it has to be almost completely symmetric between faction for you to do AI-based difficulty

if factions differ enough, the balance is completely unaffected by AI-based difficulty

[trim plume]

are there mods to unshackle the ai

other than sheep?

[coral gorge]

choking players has more balanced and consistent impact on difficulty

[jade ore]

expert ai 5.0 i guess

[coral gorge]

since it reduces players' control over the game

[jade ore]

sheeps mod better

[trim plume]

im destroying you

[coral gorge]

which is the only sensible and logical way to approach difficulty-generation

[obsidian sigil]

theres better ai too

theres also a collection of better mechanics mods

[trim plume]

also since you like

[snow rain]

it ain't really that good tbf
and from what I saw a few months ago their "meta" templates are nowhere near an average one
at least the tanks have hardness and are a threat and AI air doesn't suck as much

[trim plume]

checked the ai

[lofty adder]

im need using only mechanized?

[jade ore]

yea the mods outdated

[coral gorge]

EAI is fine

[trim plume]

how do you fix the vassals not helping you much?

i remember

[lofty adder]

Mechanized have 9 speed when motorizated have 12

[trim plume]

like

[coral gorge]

I like EAI approach to AI improvement

[trim plume]

being democratic japan

[snow rain]

it's definitely alright, but not as good as the descrption makes it out to be

[trim plume]

and my vassals not helping me at the frontline

[misty fossil]

notice how your division's speed isnt even 9kph

[coral gorge]

if you are not in faction then subjects basically never help unless they have a direct border with the front

[misty fossil]

your division is as fast as your slowest battalion

[trim plume]

even in a faction

i created a faction already

[coral gorge]

if in faction then borrow their troops

[trim plume]

and yet the vassals dont swarm the frontline

[jade ore]

yea maybe cuz the description says it isnt meant to be

[snow rain]

your tanks literally go at 5.7km/h max bro

[coral gorge]

but anyway

[snow rain]

it doesn't matter if the speed is higher, it will be capped along the slower element of the division

[coral gorge]

you guys work on that

[trim plume]

i don't like touching their units though :(

[misty fossil]

^

[lofty adder]

Im start new game

[coral gorge]

I am working on KR sheep submods

cyall in a month

[lofty adder]

Im need research mechinzated and using only mechanized divsions?

yes?

[jade ore]

twin whgens the main mod update

[snow rain]

road to success

[lofty adder]

im mean add mechanized in tanks and in speed divisions

[coral gorge]

when I feel like it

[snow rain]

paradox employee when

[coral gorge]

I hate the main mod

[jade ore]

pleeease bro

[jade ore]

why

[trim plume]

blawg

do not get this guy into paradox

[coral gorge]

nah I want to have fun too

you can't convince me otherwise

I am not paid enough for this

[trim plume]

hes gonna be forced in a box to unimprove ai

[coral gorge]

anw

[snow rain]

are you even paid ?

[coral gorge]

cyall

[jade ore]

cya

[coral gorge]

well

I set up buymeacoffee

I think it averages to some $ / month

[real oar]

hmmm

[coral gorge]

anw

cyall

fr

[real oar]

is it possible to do around 2 billion?

[jade ore]

bye times 3 👋

[snow rain]

one hell of a KD

[merry haven]

guys i am doing commie germany and the economy of conquest is beating my ass - i've done as many decisions/focuses i can

Is it just a case of waiting for autarky at this point?

[jade ore]

1m casualties? lol noob

[snow rain]

maximum I got was 310 millions 8 years ago

[real oar]

damn impressive

[obsidian sigil]

conquer

[real oar]

was it ragnarok mod too?

[snow rain]

you need to get to autarky asap

it's a race against time basically

[trim plume]

Address the elephant in the room

[snow rain]

check what you're missing and make it your top priority

[snow rain]

yup

[real oar]

hm is the situation in critical point

[trim plume]

Why didnt you go the other one

Why vro

[real oar]

if yes you can try invading smaller countries

[jade ore]

not everyone wants to play every game the same 🤖

[real oar]

it is fun to do

[trim plume]

No i mean

[snow rain]

the game ended just before 1960

[trim plume]

Js for the buff

[merry haven]

nah it's not too bad atm i can just see it getting that point lol

[trim plume]

Annex italy

[real oar]

that is a lot of soviets evaporated

[snow rain]

I wasn't nearly as good then than I am now

[merry haven]

i'm just fighting italy as we spak which is when it got to the 100% mark

[snow rain]

iirc they reached 90 millions before finally dying

US and japan were constantly lend-leasing them

[misty fossil]

oh thats OLD

[real oar]

how much they mobilised even

[jade ore]

ts a museum artifact

[jade ore]

..90 million?

[snow rain]

late 2018-early 2019

before Waking the Tiger DLC

[real oar]

i mean how much % of population

[misty fossil]

thats ancient

[snow rain]

so it was even with the OG german tree

[misty fossil]

how did the og german tree look like

[jade ore]

i googled it and its about half

[jade ore]

generic i assume

[real oar]

i have this glitch with one mod

[misty fossil]

no way

[real oar]

jesus christ

[snow rain]

max manpower they could have gotten by then would be around 160 millions maybe ?
considering the growth of civilian pop along time

[jade ore]

soviet population was 178 million in '50 😭

[real oar]

they had to have some buffs there

[snow rain]

the ragnarok buffs were there too

[misty fossil]

wasnt it like 280m by 1941

[snow rain]

the "war to end all wars" OG buff

[jade ore]

what

[real oar]

ah then it would make sence

[snow rain]

gave them supply, manpower, relations and probably other stuff I have forgotten

[misty fossil]

my bad

[real oar]

buffing them even more is fun

[snow rain]

plus the manpower buffs from OG doctrines and sov focuses

[jade ore]

no bro they did NOT lose over 100m

[misty fossil]

insane how they lost 26-27m people

[jade ore]

67??

[misty fossil]

thats more people than australia

[snow rain]

maybe I should try ragnarok once more but I fear the combat width change they introduced makes it near impossible

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/diddyblud-diddy-einstein-albert-einstein-calc-gif-9528529477851089865

SIX SEVEN

[jade ore]

there are 65 countries under 27 million population rn

ai told me vro

[misty fossil]

and then there's the taiping rebellion

casual 30m casualties

this world is beyond cruel

[jade ore]

thats mostly like civilians tho

right

or wrong

idk

[misty fossil]

idk

[jade ore]

yea

[obsidian sigil]

am i larping too hard

[jade ore]

idk

[obsidian sigil]

im planning accurate like plane/carrier names for a japan playthrough

now im figuring out

why

a single kanji has 5 pronounciations

[misty fossil]

yeah ur larping too hard

[jade ore]

just learn japanese atp

[misty fossil]

average weeaboo be like

[obsidian sigil]

depending on position of sentence, some random 1k yr trivia, whether mars is in retrograde, and whether my neighbor has stubbed his toe in the last 20 minutes

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-larp-larp-lets-go-meme-larping-ryu-jjk-gif-4454813626454837513

[misty fossil]

imagine larping when you can larp as a person with a job

[obsidian sigil]

blame japan for having "fancy" names like great phoenix and soaring crane for their shit

[trim plume]

japan more like

special america

[obsidian sigil]

i usually follow existing schemas if there were any

[cedar lance]

we need more GOOD SPs

[obsidian sigil]

like german big cats

and shit

if there is no good scheme i usually do the copy paste of bombers = disasters and calamities ,cas = landslides and shit, fighters = some bird, tanks = mountains,

[misty fossil]

why

[obsidian sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-larping-heartlock-larp-heart-learp-heartlock-gif-12816715826266824450

[graceful citrus]

guys did i make poland big enough

[jade ore]

too little buffer in the west

[graceful citrus]

i dont plan on fighting the alles but continental europe looks good to take over

[rain loom]

Poland is too small still

At least conquer the moon

[graceful citrus]

france joined the allies ong

[graceful citrus]

italy has a death wish

[graceful citrus]

i also completely destroyed germany

[cedar lance]

i like using ALL ships as Estonia

[obsidian sigil]

is poland survivable with sheeps

[vital cove]

yes

is it easy? probably not

[lofty adder]

What

This is historical AI

I am inviting in alliance Bulgaria Italy and Hungary

We need conquer Romania

Bulgaria and Hungary need to defend balkans

[jade ore]

if its not scripted then it physically wont be historical

[lofty adder]

What

[lofty adder]

Whjat

[graceful citrus]

w

[vital quest]

All nations are survivable if you try hard enough

[lofty adder]

Paradox delete your stupid game

[graceful citrus]

this is so freaking fair

rip 58 men

what is this world

[mental frigate]

i unified the german states

[graceful citrus]

yo me too

[ionic sun]

tell me did they remove plane/tank designs ? :;o

[ripe slate]

no

[ionic sun]

oh i think my sub wasnt active hahhaa

[trim plume]

blawg is losing to poland its over

[lofty adder]

Hi

[trim plume]

bro is NOT

[lofty adder]

Im need conquer netherlands or no

t

Im want buying resources

[trim plume]

shleifen plan

[loud shuttle]

is this a good marine template? for singleplayer btw

[clever shuttle]

an tank is still visible in the fog of war ahhh

[surreal mist]

dont use line arty

[loud shuttle]

boo space marines

[surreal mist]

take the tank out

[snow rain]

just medium flame tank instead of AT and it's good

[surreal mist]

if you dont want to make space marines lil bro

[loud shuttle]

why mountaineers

[trim plume]

now its just special special forcies

[snow rain]

also, light tank recon is preferable to rangers because you can stack breakthrough on it

[trim plume]

have you seen the bonuses

[trim plume]

line arty is good

[snow rain]

if only I could pin messages

[clever shuttle]

the new dlc focus tree is kind of impossible to play without changing the countries focus path before the game

[lapis snow]

troll

[loud shuttle]

bro its singleplayer it aint that deep

[surreal mist]

amphibious bonus maxes out at 50%, mountaineers are better units as soon as you reach 50%

[snow rain]

what does that even mean

[trim plume]

atleast 1 line arty

[lapis snow]

no

[loud shuttle]

hoi4 players when fun

[surreal mist]

troll

[trim plume]

no

[surreal mist]

if you want to larp with line arty that's fine

don't pretend its good though

because it isnt

that's just misinformation

[trim plume]

i forgot why arty is bad again

[surreal mist]

bad stats per width

[haughty stratus]

this guy is dead

he has been afk for so long

[trim plume]

width only

[trim plume]

or like

is there more

[low dock]

The beauty of hoi4

[clever shuttle]

czechoslovakia got an new dlc, and it requires like soviet union going tsarist, germany non alligned, france non alligned to be able to play the focus tree correct

[lapis snow]

cost, width, hp and org, terrain stats, modifiers from doctrines and advisors, techs etc.

it just isn't worth it

[snow rain]

you're supposed to play with historical AI off, yes
but I agree that there's too many focuses with checks

they're just everyywhere

[loud shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/israel-inform-israel-netanyahu-massad-jew-gif-9947234419888681674

[trim plume]

is motorized ary

arty

js the same thing

[lapis snow]

worse

[trim plume]

ah

mm

[clever shuttle]

yeah but then they can still go any other path if i’m not wrong

[trim plume]

fantastic

[snow rain]

not to mention lack of defense, brk, recovery rate and supply consumption

[snow rain]

yup, but except for achievement runs you can modify it through game settings at the start

[clever shuttle]

yea

[haughty stratus]

orange

[loud shuttle]

what

[lapis snow]

got to think, it's adding fuel cost and truck cost, you would literally be better off using SPGs because at least that has break and armor

[clever shuttle]

and i don’t want to play un historical because it always goes the same. italy making some italian faction and switzerland taking all of the alps. always happens to me super annoying

[loud shuttle]

line arty is the best wdym

[unkempt orchid]

Name me a tuff nation to play

or some achivement to get

all dlcs btw

[clever shuttle]

kind of funny there is one democratic path in czechoslovakia where you just cut Carpatho Ukraine and Slovakia free

[loud shuttle]

get the achievement where you unite siberia as tannu tuva

[unkempt orchid]

😠

I never played tannu

but bte

bet

[loud shuttle]

gl bro

🥀

[willow gull]

bait?

[unkempt orchid]

Tannu dont have a focus tree 😠

[loud shuttle]

they do wdym

[unkempt orchid]

Only

like

what's it called

[fiery blaze]

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[unkempt orchid]

a unique one

[loud shuttle]

every nation is unique in its own way

[knotty vortex]

are there any ways you can fix finlands manpower problems

[loud shuttle]

raise your conscription law

[snow rain]

just change the game settings then

[clever shuttle]

yea that’s what i’m doing rn

[coral gorge]

:wife

dafuq

they just soloed Qing

oh

wrong server

[haughty stratus]

@jaunty fog are you dead

[fiery blaze]

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[loud shuttle]

yes it has mountaineers

[snow rain]

[proud herald]

i dont even play hoi4 xd

[vernal lake]

😂

sick seven factory

[dense hill]

oh shut up

[vernal lake]

67 67

[fiery blaze]

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[dense hill]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[fiery blaze]

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[vernal lake]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-school-6-7-8-9-6-7-meme-gif-9283842523222664778

[dense hill]

https://tenor.com/view/tung-tung-tung-sahur-67-67-meme-fortnite-emote-gif-13299458995536216312

[hot jolt]

yo men what are the better samples of a division?

[loud shuttle]

if you scroll up you will see a good marine division posted by omsimplu5_

[hot jolt]

😭

[clever shuttle]

can someone history knowing please explain why this country gets an core on krakow?

[dusky burrow]

Austria-Hungary related probably

But those are some weird claims

[clever shuttle]

yeah but mistake me if im wrong but is not like Galicia in northwest of iberia?

[vernal lake]

Damn dude my game japan sacrificed themself for german to invade soviet

[craggy trail]

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-edit-analog-horror-phonk-gif-3349401281762803381

[misty fossil]

Navy

[vernal lake]

Oh my god

67

6777

[misty fossil]

67

[clever shuttle]

ngl i like the new dlc, the new joint war thing is super cool. always what i wanted. There is literally an decision that you can declare war on germany with poland and france at the same time

[loud shuttle]

nooo

not navy

nooo

[misty fossil]

NAVYYYYYYY

[loud shuttle]

hey i destroyed so many submarines with cas, navy sucks

[misty fossil]

Ok

i destroyed hundreds of carriers

and thousands of other ships

Can you

[loud shuttle]

no cause navy sucks

[misty fossil]

Ok

Navy

[clever shuttle]

the czechs and slovacs are so strong like hungary needs to subjuaget they literally have an hole in them

[loud shuttle]

whats the point of that exactly

[misty fossil]

Navy

[loud shuttle]

yes but what does that achieve exactly

[misty fossil]

Navy?

[agile glacier]

Yoooo anybody wants to gift me peace of our time? Thanks guys

[patent thistle]

result of an MP game

(road to 56)

[patent thistle]

(hungary and yugo are my puppets)

[wise pelican]

no matter every time i try and play romania, i can never defeat Hungary

i have more troops and stuff like what

[flint widget]

more troops but 2/3 of them have no guns

[wise pelican]

so what should i have done

[flint widget]

orange bar on the unit is their equipment level

[agile glacier]

Yoooo anybody wants to gift me peace of our time? Thanks guys

[wise pelican]

should I only put 1 General on the front line insteads

[flint widget]

delete some units until all the remaining units have full orange bar

those unequipped troops are just wasting space on the frontline

making some of the other troops with actual guns not able to be in battle

[proud tapir]

your divisions have no equipment

see the yellow bar

you can check how much of guns,artillery,anti air, tanks etc you have under the logistics tab

[dry sleet]

Also you can try setting up a trap letting them push and cutting them off

[proud tapir]

also quick tip aswell, when you do a frontline with a fieldmarshall
Shift-click instead of just clicking

When you left click like normal it seperates the frontline into weird sections based on your armies under that field marshall

Shift click makes an even, fluid front and it basicaly puts all armies under the marshall on a single clean front @wise pelican

So for fieldmarshall frontlines, you should always shift click

[wise pelican]

ok

[proud tapir]

or shift and drag

[wise pelican]

so i have 2 generals but should i just use 1 for this invasion

so i can spread supplie sbetter

[proud tapir]

It depends, sometimes its best to use less divisions for better supply

If you see your divisions having bad supply, then sure

[flint widget]

numbers can be good but only if they have guns. even if you move half of your army away, the remaining boys still dont have guns

[proud tapir]

you can put one general in the back

[flint widget]

delete one army

[wise pelican]

like a fall back?

[proud tapir]

Hungary is weak anyways without Germany

[proud tapir]

yeah

[wise pelican]

alr im just gonna restart

[proud tapir]

so one general should do the job

what template for your infantry are you using btw?@wise pelican

[flint widget]

no just disband one army then the remaining army will have full equipment

then theyll have a chance

[proud tapir]

you can consolidate divisions

[wise pelican]

the basic one

[proud tapir]

alright thats a decent template

classic 18 width

I recommend anti air once you can afford it/produced enough

(support company)

[flint widget]

but with the amount of equipment they all have those stats are all probably more than halved

[dusky burrow]

Not the engineers 🙁

[proud tapir]

whats wrong with engineers?

especaly with the new sub doctorine

i always run an engineer company in almost every template

it just gives a nice boost

[surreal mist]

overpriced

engineers are garbage for small inf because of how expensive it is

[proud tapir]

i mean if you can afford the support equipment, its better to put them to use

especaly for line infantry like this

[surreal mist]

you dont want to overproduce support equipment because support equipment gives 0 stats

engineers are better on pushing divs, not on line inf because it costs 30 per lmfao

[wise pelican]

wait but if i delete my armies to supply one general, wont it reduce my man power

[flint widget]

no the men from that army will go back to the manpower pool

[proud tapir]

no, it should only boost your manpower

[flint widget]

so you can use them again once you have enough guns

[vernal lake]

Guys how to fix if theres no steel left in the world

[proud tapir]

Theft

[willow gull]

excavation technologies i guess lmao

[proud tapir]

what country are you playing?@vernal lake

[flint widget]

forced labour

[vernal lake]

Thailand

Bigger thailand

[proud tapir]

You have those prospect for resources decisions

idk if you have anything that gives you steel

check them out

[vernal lake]

I got singapore

[dry sleet]

unless they are encircled

[flint widget]

yeah

[proud tapir]

yeah

you need a connection to your capital

to get the full equipment and manpower back

[wise pelican]

guys at the start of playing romania i have like a couple tank divisions and cavalry, should i delete those?

[vernal lake]

theres no iron left in teh world breh

[proud tapir]

delete or convert to new templates later yeah

[flint widget]

wow

[wise pelican]

these templates right?

[flint widget]

theres a spy mission you can use to increase your trade priority

[proud tapir]

yeah

[flint widget]

so you get the steel over others

[wise pelican]

ok

[proud tapir]

For offensive divisions, once you have enough artillery stocked up
Make a copy of that infantry template and add one or two line artillery divisions. Gives them nice bit of soft attack and breaktrough.
@wise pelican

Unless you have industry to make medium tanks

[jade ore]

why are you making cav divisions

[mental frigate]

i am witnessing the worst german ai it's 1941 and i have to defeat the benelux for it lol

[proud tapir]

But for minor countries without much of an industry to work with, adding artillery to these infantry templates can make for okay offensive divisions for pushing

[mental frigate]

historical

[proud tapir]

German AI is funny like that sometimes

[mental frigate]

never allying them ever again bro 🙏

[proud tapir]

Had games where they got stuck and could not push past Belarus and Ukraine

[jade ore]

i watched the ai cook this absolute storm up when i was trying to make the french go napoleonic and actually do something before ww2 started

[dry sleet]

I think the new Czech tree messes with German a bit sometimes

[proud tapir]

ngl i love the new czech tree

[wise pelican]

wait after i delete my divisions to supply 1 general, should i make that division again after the war to get my man power back

[proud tapir]

yeah

Once you have enough equipment yeah

[jade ore]

yea thats pretty common

[vernal lake]

Guys it say i have 800 plane where do i find it and place it pls help

[jade ore]

like 1 in 4 ive seen

[mental frigate]

it's way too overpowered with the 30% compliance and like 50% recruitable bonus

[wise pelican]

ok

[vernal lake]

ples im noob at aplne

[mental frigate]

i went from 0 manpower to 1.6m without any new cores lol

[flint widget]

i watched ai kaiserreich austria invade hungary and then afterwards czechia, illyria and galicia at the same time

[proud tapir]

i always brush off people calling trees OP because hey its fun right? But then i remember im a singleplayer pleb and hoi4 has a multiplayer where this matters a LOT

[dry sleet]

Honestly I assign fighter/cas to armies and call it a day, microing them is way too much of an hassle

[jade ore]

thats tuff

[ivory hull]

line arty is bad just use sf

[mental frigate]

this german ai is bonkers this run is so dead

[proud tapir]

line arty is overhated

especaly with the new doctorines

[ivory hull]

no its perfectly hated

[jade ore]

give them all your surplus equipment

[mental frigate]

i like line artillery if you are a minor country

[ivory hull]

then its even worse

[proud tapir]

infantry only Germany is doable and can absolutely smash everyone

[ivory hull]

because you dont have the equipment to spent

[ivory hull]

inf bricks are better

[dry sleet]

Czech being able to force half of europe in their faction with no RNG is a bit OP imho

[mental frigate]

can't afford normal artillery 🥀

[ivory hull]

line arty is bad

[jade ore]

or its just better spent mils on support eq or aa

[proud tapir]

I mean, rather that than having the belgium thing where the whole run depends on RNG and if even one country denies via RNG the run is pretty much dead

paradox really needs to get their stuff togheter with these things ngl

There has to be a way to not make it RNG hell but also balanced so you have to do stuff so they accept instead of auto accept

[dry sleet]

Agreed, but should take more effort (ie boosting relationship, diplomatic pressure, etc, like fascist Finland), right now I believe only Yugo require relationship boost to avoid RNG, rest autoaccepts

[proud tapir]

yeah

[jade ore]

its quite reasonable, fear of germany's quick rearmament and the harsh demands on austria and sudetenland would probably push the nations like france and romania to help

alt history ofc

historical they just threw czechoslovakia under the bus and looked away

[mental frigate]

i've only tried the fascist czech path, which one is this?

[proud tapir]

Austria is a great example

1. You can either threaten them, do military excercises or none agression pact, economic aid at the cost of PP

2. It TELLS you how likely they are to accept

@dry sleet

[jade ore]

little entente i assume

[mental frigate]

fascist only puppets hungary

[dry sleet]

Any of the democratic/commie can do it

[mental frigate]

oh

as far as i've played though fascist is too overpowered

[proud tapir]

I wanna play monarchist

i wanna do the selisia war

tommorow when i get home

[mental frigate]

i was going to do monarchist then the game hit me with the rhineland pop up lol

fear of the germans

[proud tapir]

i just like paths that have peace out options trough decisions

it saves you from headaches

Paradox needs to do more of that

[dry sleet]

Germany doing Sudetenland and finding itself at war with France, Czech, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Yugoslavia, Austria and even Switzerland is kinda funny tho

[clever shuttle]

was at war with poland and poland just gave their eastern part to ragebait me, i was gonna ally with russia but now i guess im up to barbarossa

[proud tapir]

i love the fact i dont have to be alone until 39-40 waiting and can ally with France

my run basicaly went

[mental frigate]

out of countries to play may as well go fascist germany for the first time

[dry sleet]

Mein Furher.. The Swiss are coming down from the alps...

[proud tapir]

Ally with France
Funny encriclements in selisia and pushing towards the danube for a better defensive line
Hold out with some cearful micro because i had only 1 full army and another with 19 divisions
In 39, Germany breaks out into a civil war
PUSH

Had a LOT of fun

10/10 long like Češko

[jade ore]

reasonable

[proud tapir]

I just wish we had at least one smaller Slovak independence path

😢

[ivory hull]

something like what uruguay got

[proud tapir]

man i should try out latin america

i have the dlc but never played any of them

[ivory hull]

brazil and argentinia are good

chile good too

thats it

[proud tapir]

Alr

[ivory hull]

took me like half a year after release to play any of them lol

[proud tapir]

I guess whenever i want to play any of the older trees

im off put by

the amount of 70 day focuses

[dry sleet]

Chile has a really funny exploit in SP where you can go down two different paths if you time focuses and decisions right

[proud tapir]

"Hmm i guess i could try France?"

70 day focus for a research bonus and a single civ

"Ah Germany it is"

[clever shuttle]

the new czehckoslovakia monarchist focus tree is so weird, the focused you do makes it that your small minority nations in czechoslovakia such as Carpatho-Ukraine gets cores on poland. but not me, like whats the point

[frosty juniper]

Communist ahh wrestler

[winged field]

bros pc is high

🌈

[frosty juniper]

thats not the actual screen my camera was close up

[winged field]

oh xd

[quiet vessel]

i love puppeting

[wet flicker]

i only puppet if the puppets border is gonna help me cheese my war / the next one

[willow gull]

i only started puppeting when i got the same color puppet mod

[wet flicker]

or if i really dont wanna deal with them too much

having all dlcs is such a game changer

[quiet vessel]

a must have mod for me

[wet flicker]

you're not even playing the same game with only a few dlcs

[dry sleet]

If only I could turn off puppet sending me random ass divisions.. just give me some manpower instead

[lofty adder]

You playing for Communist germany?

[quiet vessel]

im soviets

[wet flicker]

anybody wanna do minor nations only?

[lofty adder]

What mod you using for paint puppets

In your color

[quiet vessel]

always color puppets

[vernal lake]

guys what should i take im thailand

[lofty adder]

is this complayitibliae with iron man

[quiet vessel]

idk

[dry sleet]

Everything is compatible with iron man with the right encouragement

[uneven oxide]

https://klipy.com/gifs/snow-ball-bibi--k01KQ2XKV9X62ZGFQFE9DA4NK1C

[silver dawn]

i think i can count that as won.

[upbeat tundra]

average germany game is having the USA declaring on you and then saying that you won anyways

[silver dawn]

dude its 1951 i dont want to play anymore

[dry sleet]

Amerikabomber time

[silver dawn]

already got it

and nuked usa

[lofty adder]

You is nazi yes

[upbeat tundra]

now u gotta defeat the USA

[lofty adder]

You from germany you said

Do you know your country started teror ww2

[silver dawn]

yes

[lofty adder]

against 90 million people

[winged field]

too many colors

make it one :>

[upbeat tundra]

youre the type of person to ruin hoi4

i feel like

"how DARE this person play as germany even though its one of the main nations in hoi4 and one that almost everyone has played and enjoyed"

[silver dawn]

ye

[lofty adder]

This is nazi country

[upbeat tundra]

no shit?

this is hoi4 a ww2 simuator

[silver dawn]

and? history is history and no one can do shit agaisnt it

[upbeat tundra]

stop trying to start shit for the sake of starting shit

[silver dawn]

and it was 86 year ago

[upbeat tundra]

me when someone gets mad at someone playing a ww2 sim simulating ww2

[silver dawn]

XD

[vernal beacon]

what do you think about this

[silver dawn]

nice

[vernal beacon]

i think it is my strongest ratio about

[upbeat tundra]

wanna see some game i did?

[vernal beacon]

yes

[vernal beacon]

how do you even get so many kills

you probably ran for everyone

[silver dawn]

yes

it was hard and its 1951

[vernal beacon]

idk why it says danish war tho im fighting the commonwealth of nations

[upbeat tundra]

"just one more attack guys"

[silver dawn]

yeah thats kinda ass this name system

[upbeat tundra]

"we can win if we push again"

[silver dawn]

XD

[willow gull]

what year ?

[silver dawn]

1951

[willow gull]

damn

hurry it up

[upbeat tundra]

btw this was in like 1914 when they didnt have any tanks

by the time they got tanks they ran outta mp

[silver dawn]

bro ama end that game

i dont want to do island hopping

asia was pain enough

[vernal beacon]

is it possible to still invade the brits i tried yesterday but failed

i did paradroopers and some naval invasions

and i couldnt even start making a good navy

[silver dawn]

yeah i did it to but iwth nukes

[vernal beacon]

cause im austria for godsake

[willow gull]

show your paradropper templates

[silver dawn]

with*

[vernal beacon]

i got the default ones essentially

[willow gull]

parapooper

[willow gull]

the one the game gives you?

[vernal beacon]

yup

changed some things tho let me see

im not on the game no more from yesterday

but im gonna send mine

[upbeat tundra]

wow i guess all of the austro hungarian troops learned hwo to speak one language

[silver dawn]

whats that bullshit

[upbeat tundra]

you didnt conquer china thats prob why

that has the most population

[dry sleet]

See? Even the stats don't count that as a win 😁

[vernal beacon]

something like this

[willow gull]

ah

[silver dawn]

duck off dude i am tierd

[willow gull]

maybe make the template a bit fatter & target the ports

[lofty adder]

Do you know SS soldiers killed lot of nations

lot of people various nations

[silver dawn]

yeah thats why i didnt chose ss

[lofty adder]

you now cant play for germany

[silver dawn]

i can

and i did

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-wall-invincible-invincible-meme-omniman-gif-17498721321987612331

[willow gull]

you can’t play germany as a german bro

it’s not LARP anymore

[vernal beacon]

?

germany is so nice to play

[silver dawn]

are u trying to rage bait me?

[vernal beacon]

what with

[slim nexus]

Guys, it's just me or navy feels too easy once you understand it?

[vernal beacon]

width

[willow gull]

💀💀💀