hoi4-general

[kindred lotus]

i only bought HOI4 so i can play multiplayer

[dry sleet]

F

[grave sonnet]

Ur gonna meet a lot of amazing people on it 👍🏼 /j

[kindred lotus]

i got 4k hours on multiplayer o algo

ive had HOI4 for a few years

the excel sheets

[grave sonnet]

Ah ic

[grave phoenix]

@heavy vigil I need sov coop for a game today

join frfr

[vernal beacon]

do i still have to research milita i never tried it

how do i aquire it

[heavy vigil]

im working at the ball crushing factory today

[grave phoenix]

igb

need u to nerf myself

[heavy vigil]

XD

[grave phoenix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1255677931196256297/1258480258726891530/Meow.gif?width=684&height=682

[heavy vigil]

how late

please answer in a real timezone

[grave phoenix]

idk 18:00 or 20:00

[kindred lotus]

secret rearmament

iirc

[grave phoenix]

its some random turkish street server

[grave phoenix]

cet

[heavy vigil]

so in like 9 hours?

[grave phoenix]

4-6 hours

idk if they take turkish time zone or cet

I cant read what they posted

[vernal beacon]

did that but it didnt give me milita

[heavy vigil]

i dont know either of those

[grave phoenix]

guh

[kindred lotus]

do u have the gotterdamerung dlc

[grave phoenix]

its either in 4 or in 6 hours

[vernal beacon]

the nuke one?

yes

i think i have every one

[heavy vigil]

what about in 6-7 hours

[kindred lotus]

okay

lemme gfive u a milita guide

[grave phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-dance-ai-cat-kitty-car-dancing-cool-funny-gif-every-day-gif-12905078427869347342

[wide osprey]

is this....

is this real?

[grave phoenix]

yes

I was one of the cats

[kindred lotus]

nvm @vernal beacon go get the focus

it gives u milita

its somewhere there

[vernal beacon]

thats not in the austria hungary path

or im blind

[kindred lotus]

just search for milita

in the focus tree

i dont play austria much

im a soviet main

[grave phoenix]

pretty sure only country that can edit militia templates is communist china

unless it got changed

[vernal beacon]

this one maybe?

add milita support

[indigo elk]

My Italy campaign became a right mess. Spammed single div cav and converted into 90x full stacks then followed massive equipment shortages, obviously. Spent my pre-war fighting with hardly any equipment

[dry sleet]

Czech too, and I think Austria

[grave phoenix]

alr

[dry sleet]

Look for this:

[sonic jolt]

uhh what do i do with this

[vernal beacon]

there isnt one

[sonic jolt]

Es horrible

[vernal beacon]

germany got a wargoal on me again too

i will not be able to defend

[sonic jolt]

What to do with this (I am Germany)

[vernal beacon]

can you not research milita?

like mountaineers or other

[dry sleet]

Yeah, seems austrian can modify their militia template but not add more militia battalions to it since they are not granted te tech

[vernal beacon]

oh okay

[dry sleet]

So you can do things like:

[vernal beacon]

what do i need to change

okay good

[dry sleet]

That is just an example, not necessary good 😛

[vernal beacon]

is mine okay?

[trim sail]

Russia and Japan swapped northern and southern Sakhalin

[vernal beacon]

i cant add artillery now cause i dont have enough points

[coarse iron]

Hi! A few questions on the new Czechoslovakia. How do I get rid of "Threatening neighbors" modifier, which tanks my army preparedness? I do not see it explained anywhere, and nor is it a national spirit.

[atomic grove]

u dont

i dont think you can

[coarse iron]

why isn't it explained anywhere?

[atomic grove]

it makes sense

[dry sleet]

Not a huge fan personally, if you want something simple i'd start with this and maybe add AA

[coarse iron]

What if I defeat Germans and Hungarians? Will it go away?

[vernal beacon]

but i need aa for germany

[ivory hull]

make it 18w

[vernal beacon]

i can only make it 17 or 19 idk why

[ivory hull]

line arty and recon?

[ivory hull]

show me a screenshot

[vernal beacon]

bruh

and germany wanna declare now

[ivory hull]

your cooked

just put germany to go not communist in the settings

[ivory hull]

cant you add more militas?

also take out the recon

your austria

[vernal beacon]

no its locked

[ivory hull]

ok then just make it 18w

[vernal beacon]

i cant

[ivory hull]

wdym

1 more inf battalion

[dry sleet]

Honestly I'd stay on 14W with shovel arty AA and add rocket later

[ivory hull]

why 14w

[vernal beacon]

bruh

[dry sleet]

It's a pretty decent width, does not dilute too much the militia bonuses and gives a good effectiveness to support arty.
If the militia wasn't locked I'd go for more

[ivory hull]

18w is better and still affordable

[dry sleet]

suffers less losses, but has less attack and org per width

[ivory hull]

yea but as austria you cant really lose a lot of equipment

from my experience at least

[vernal beacon]

its not looking that bad

[ivory hull]

you have no manpower

[dry sleet]

close that pocked in the south

[vernal beacon]

yes i have like 70 buffer divisions i used to rally the other countries

theyre not real

i just dont got the equipment to make just milita yet

[ivory hull]

bro you still need manpower in your army

[vernal beacon]

why

[ivory hull]

wdym why

because if you dont have manpower in your divs

they dont work

[sudden thistle]

Ignorance is bliss

[tulip thorn]

This is true

[knotty vortex]

because cossacks get an insane buff to cavalry, what should i do with cavalry?

[sudden thistle]

If u ignore the problem the problem doesn’t exist

[knotty vortex]

are there any good cav offensive templates

maybe replacing motorized in a spg div with cav?

can cav be used as holding

[loud shuttle]

first game in new dlc

[vernal beacon]

this is just a bad dream right

hell naw bruh

are you telling me these guys disassembled austria hungary

[patent thistle]

churchills plan be like:

[loud shuttle]

literally

[pale flare]

france fun? thinking of making it the first major that i play

[dry sleet]

focus tree is a bit dated, but not horrible

[sharp storm]

It’s fun, but challenging, so if it’s your first major maybe try something else?

[pale flare]

its not like im a new player ill be fine, just running out of minor nations to play

[sharp storm]

France is my favourite major so I’d recommend it

[pale flare]

oh yeah that looks horrible compared to more recent ones

[sharp storm]

Definitely not horrible, but just not as expansive

You’ve still got everything you’d need

[dry sleet]

Alt history is a bit bare-bones "here's a bunch of wargoals, go have fun"

[sharp storm]

Yea, it’s fun larp tho

[mellow ibex]

are there any good alt hist mods for a socialist germany or no

[dry sleet]

Also lots of 70 day focuses like "120 PP", "2 factories" "5% stability"

[mellow ibex]

something something spartakus bund doesn't get shot

[sharp storm]

The recent RT56 update added a whole bunch of stuff for alt history Germany, I havent checked any of the socialist stuff but it could be what you’re looking for

[mellow ibex]

hmm maybe

i meant more like a Kaiserreich type thing

[sharp storm]

Oh, there was one that focused on a socialist germany but the name is blanking on me

Fight for the fatherland I think it was?

[mellow ibex]

ookay ill keep it in mind

ty

[sharp storm]

no problemmmm

[safe wing]

He heard the axis, allies, and Comintern are pretty strong

[kind reef]

Is this division conquering Poland twins 🥹 ✌️

[winged field]

eh, kinda bad but like against AI you might as well try

[kind reef]

Ye it is against AI

It is the best I can have right now 😔

[fair compass]

meowzers

[sharp storm]

This is painful to look at

[halcyon scroll]

💀

[sharp storm]

Lowest possible speed, low org, weird combat width, bad attacking stats, light tanks

Also the random truck artillery

[halcyon scroll]

Road to 56

Main airforce this time

rahh

[grave sonnet]

Poland is conquering that Division

[kind reef]

😭

It is AI Poland tho

[honest glacier]

no need to disrespect the ai like that

[halcyon scroll]

I think 7 Inf 2 Art is better than this

[sharp storm]

That division looks like it would melt as soon as it enters battle

[grave sonnet]

☝🏼

[kind reef]

I am sure it can hold on for some time, right 🥺

[halcyon scroll]

"HOLD THE RHINE RIVER"

[sharp storm]

Does that template make up your whole army or?

[kind reef]

Of course not

[rough bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6vTsZj21Ao

[kind reef]

Most of the army is regular German infantry and tank division but with some little

modifications

[sharp storm]

regular german infantry can hold as a defensive division fine

[lofty adder]

Switherland want invade in me

[grave sonnet]

I'm afraid to ask what the modifications are

[robust vale]

uh

[sharp storm]

starting tank templates are stinky

[ivory hull]

the kaiserredux world domination submod is good if you wanna play kx

[violet coyote]

Hello

[grave sonnet]

When Germany thinks Switzerland ain't neutral anymore they atac

[robust vale]

but why did they think so

it's historical

😭

[halcyon scroll]

till somehow japan joins ur europe war and peace conference will not happen in a while

[grave sonnet]

Low opinion

[ivory hull]

bro wtf is this

[ivory hull]

never happened to me

[halcyon scroll]

damnnn

[mellow ibex]

is that the one with a focus tree for a germany that surrendered to the 3I or

[violet coyote]

im new to the game

[lofty adder]

im using this

[halcyon scroll]

adding motorized artillery to infrantry is a waste of production

[ivory hull]

you can just civil war it in like 37 and i think its actually the roter morgen submod mb

[halcyon scroll]

They r not going any faster or any better stats

[ivory hull]

horrible aswell

[ivory hull]

line arty in general is bad

[kind reef]

Should I add regular artillery?

[grave sonnet]

Line artillery maxxing

[halcyon scroll]

But u gotta need to produce motorize for that

[ivory hull]

use 36w inf if you wanna do an inf build

[kind reef]

What's a good, cheap template?

[sharp storm]

No, you should avoid it like the plague

[halcyon scroll]

I do 7infrantry 2 artillery for regular line.

[ivory hull]

bad

[kind reef]

Is it that bad?

[ivory hull]

do 18w inf

[halcyon scroll]

And put all resources on elite tank

[sharp storm]

Thats if you want an attacking division

[halcyon scroll]

Or airforce

[kind reef]

36w?

[ivory hull]

yea as germany you can just do that for every div tho

[kind reef]

What does that mean again sorry

[ivory hull]

just an inf build

[mellow ibex]

hasnt like 7/1s or 9/2s been the meta for a while or........

[ivory hull]

the width of the division

[kind reef]

Oh

[ivory hull]

hasnt been since a few years

[kind reef]

How about I just add light tank to infantry

[sharp storm]

No, its a noob trap build

[ivory hull]

bad

[kind reef]

Is that good for attack?

[mellow ibex]

am i unc

[sharp storm]

it was the meta when like the game came outt maybe

[kind reef]

Medium tank

[ivory hull]

do you have nsb?

[mellow ibex]

i mean anything works against the ai

lol

[kind reef]

NSB?

[mellow ibex]

whats the meta then now just pure inf?

[ivory hull]

no step back dlc

[ivory hull]

special forces/tanks with cas

[kind reef]

I have 0 DLCs installed

[sharp storm]

space marines arent as useful anymore but they can still work

[ivory hull]

yea no idea whats the best tank div then

[mellow ibex]

yuh but i meant specifically for infantry units

[kind reef]

I am talking against AI btw

[sharp storm]

I knoww

[ivory hull]

36w is the best for attacking in general

[lofty adder]

Is this good or bad

[ivory hull]

horrible

[lofty adder]

What is better

[sharp storm]

Not horrible, just weird and as Germany you can do way better

[ivory hull]

attacking units should be 36w and just use tanks or special forces

motorized aint cutting it

[kind reef]

Should have I clicked Construct the Westwall right before France declared war on me

[ivory hull]

no lol

[kind reef]

Oh good because

[sharp storm]

You mainly want to use trucks for supply hubs, mechanised is better for attacking units

[kind reef]

I thought that the effects were not permanent

[ivory hull]

which effects?

[vital cove]

do my infantry have enough soft atk

[patent thistle]

HELL YEAH

[patent thistle]

nah they need just a little more

[clear dagger]

what are the terrain debuffs?

[mellow ibex]

ough i just realized fight for the fatherland hasnt been updated in over a year

[vital cove]

we ignore that clueless

(-90% on every terrain except plains)

this is the non meme version of it

[kind reef]

The effects that the decision gives

Also I chose Brutal Oppression for Czechia's management why does resistance still grow

[ivory hull]

that are?

[ivory hull]

local police force is just better and maybe cause you dont have equipment for the garrison

or smth like that

[kind reef]

Build a defensive line on the French border

[mellow ibex]

do i play with 0 coal on the entire map or downgrade my save 💭

[kind reef]

I usually do that but like

I need to get their resistance down quickly

it is about to reach 40%

[ivory hull]

get a better mod

[ivory hull]

why?

[mellow ibex]

naw

i rarely play this game anyway

[ivory hull]

bro its like 2 clicks from the workshop getting a good mod

[mellow ibex]

ive played them all

i have 2k hours on this

[ivory hull]

you sure?

[mellow ibex]

probably yeah

[ivory hull]

so you alr did kaiserredux, world ablaze, darkest hour, black ice, tno, twr, eaw, rt56

[mellow ibex]

ive played most of those

[ivory hull]

most isnt all and if your looking for a states mod i can recommend kovas

[kind reef]

I have no idea

I did the brutal opression but still

their resistance is growing

[errant bramble]

I’m frothing at the mouth to open up my computer and play romania but I’ve been too busy 😢

[quasi osprey]

😐

[loud shuttle]

how do i get rid of army readiness

[grizzled ether]

border vomit

[vague abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-pesci-what-the-fuck-wtf-wtf-is-that-what-the-fuck-is-this-gif-24937450

this wasn't mentioned int he dlcs?

[astral forum]

It was in the dev diary

[red sun]

Guys helppp, i am trying to plat rise of nation mod but it doesn’t work it says mod is made for another version and what to doo???

[tepid crown]

Roll back the game or find a different mod

[red sun]

What do u mean by roll back

[sudden thistle]

It was in the dev diary

[vague abyss]

meh

[sudden thistle]

Tf u mean meh 💔

[vague abyss]

dlc came too fast

i didnt read it

[ripe slate]

Just play it, it still works

[red sun]

Really? Dangg i deleted it fuh i have to download it again

[ripe slate]

Every mod that has the yellow warning triangle because it has 1.17 as supported version still works

At least, afaik, not aware of any change in 1.18 that could break mods

[red sun]

Understandable! Thanks for informing me

[misty fossil]

how it feels to build peak

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-ship-mjc-gif-19466296

[fair compass]

is battle for the bosporus gonna be implented into the game next after Taog releases 👀

[safe wing]

That would be LR

Can’t wait to see the community chimp out again

[fair compass]

LR?

dunno what that means

[safe wing]

La Resistance

[fair compass]

ah 🥀

why is Botb so cheap if it isnt gonna be implented..

[safe wing]

Both will be implemented

And that will be it for free dlc

Because there is no way paradox will make NSB free

[fair compass]

in 2033 frfr..

when the big antartica dlc releases frfr

[safe wing]

I honestly think hoi4 is almost done

[fair compass]

is it gonna move on to hoi5?

[safe wing]

Looking at eu4 for comparison

[safe wing]

Yeah and it’s going to have less content at the start than hoi4 at the start

[fair compass]

damn 🥀

[vast delta]

does the focus agreement with poland have the possibility of you having to surrender zaolzie for an alliance or is it another focus that does that?

[fair compass]

which focus is this.. ive never seen this before

is it an austrain focus?

[misty fossil]

Slovakian focus

[fair compass]

slovakia has a focus tree?

[sudden thistle]

It’s a country pack

[vast delta]

czechoslovak

[fair compass]

o

[sudden thistle]

Of 2 shitty and 1 good Balkan country

[vast delta]

does that have me give up zaolzie?

if not its a no-brainer but im not sure if thats the case

[slender kernel]

yo guys whats the best mod to play rn

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux

[slender kernel]

i played enough of that

i want something fresh

[ivory hull]

owb?

[slender kernel]

whats that

[ivory hull]

old world blues

fallout in hoi4

[slender kernel]

i mean ive heard its hard

[misty fossil]

equestria at war

[ivory hull]

nah not really

[slender kernel]

and ive never played any fallout

[misty fossil]

owb is annoying

[slender kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[misty fossil]

stupid rivers and impassable terrain

[ivory hull]

1000x better than eaw

[misty fossil]

im not a brony

[slender kernel]

god i hate unpassable terrain

[misty fossil]

sorry im not weird enough to be into animals

[slender kernel]

ruins my frontlines

also

[misty fossil]

eaw is very well polished though

[ivory hull]

just like 3 spots on the whole map

[slender kernel]

why do people hate on great war redux?

[misty fossil]

so it has that going for it

[slender kernel]

still aint

[craggy trail]

[slender kernel]

idk the lore and stuff

[ivory hull]

dev removed alt history paths so lwk

[misty fossil]

lead dev is a moron who ruins the game

[slender kernel]

wdym

what happened

[misty fossil]

there are videos on the drama

[slender kernel]

i mean i like it

[misty fossil]

Watch them

[ivory hull]

the dev didnt want a-hist paths so he removed them

[slender kernel]

alright

[slender kernel]

dumbass

[misty fossil]

hes also a uh

[slender kernel]

same reason why i dont play kaiserreich

[misty fossil]

i think hes actually schizophrenic

[slender kernel]

i just think kinda silly things are perfect

[misty fossil]

Eaw is owb without the impassable mountains and rivers that delete your frontlines

[slender kernel]

still

i like the more normal mods more

like things that arent an eyesore

or

[misty fossil]

Idk then

Ive been playing vanilla and eaw

[slender kernel]

just complete other

[mystic arch]

Excuse me...

[slender kernel]

whats an underrated country

[misty fossil]

owb would be infinitely more fun if pdx fixed the frontline bugs

[misty fossil]

idk japan?

[slender kernel]

that doesnt make you want to scoop your eyes

out

since im a little bad at the game

a little more

whats a good template anyways

[misty fossil]

like try the secret buddhist path or the empress path

[slender kernel]

i dont bother with air

[misty fossil]

Check pinned in ask for help

[slender kernel]

or tanks

[ivory hull]

36w for attacking, 16-18w for defense

[misty fossil]

you have to bother with air and tanks

[slender kernel]

secret buddhist path sounds cool

[misty fossil]

without air ur gonna lose

no doubt

[slender kernel]

yeah but 36 combat width of what

motorized artillery

[misty fossil]

ew

never use line artillery

[slender kernel]

its a joke

[slender kernel]

what??

[ivory hull]

special forces, infantry, tanks with cav/motorized/mech

[ivory hull]

line arty is horrible

[slender kernel]

only infantry?

[slender kernel]

damn bro

[misty fossil]

and support arty

[ivory hull]

inf bricks work really well

[slender kernel]

then what doctrine

is best

[misty fossil]

Um

[slender kernel]

alright il try that

[ivory hull]

operations its grand assault or if you can get desperate defense then that and for inf assault inf

[sudden thistle]

China

[slender kernel]

i mean ive been doing the same 9 block inf 3 line arty with some companies

so

what companies?

[slender kernel]

theres alot of those

[mystic arch]

am i screwed (1943, i am GBR, at war with NAA, Comintern and italian league)

[errant bramble]

Spam cavalry

Nothing else

(It works)

[sudden thistle]

My internet ain’t Interneting

Oh yeah sheep’s mod is pretty fun

U should try it sometime

[sudden thistle]

@slender kernel

[mystic arch]

so india js had a communist uprising as part of comintern

[slender kernel]

idk what that is

[sudden thistle]

Search it in and have fun

[slender kernel]

just sheeps mod?

[sudden thistle]

Btw don’t add other mods to it

It may explode

[sudden thistle]

Mhm

[slender kernel]

what does it do.?

[mystic arch]

oh and communist india js joined the axis

soviets took rome

[slender kernel]

hell naw

better ai?

[sudden thistle]

Messes with the AI a little

[slender kernel]

im struggling with the current ai

i alr mentioned im shite

[sudden thistle]

It’s great

Trust me

[slender kernel]

alright il try

but what template?

@sudden thistle

[calm shell]

Guys can you rate my alternative scramble for Africa map. I minimized historical border gore and slightly “nerfed” the British and French while giving other European powers a better share. I tried to avoid it being too unrealistic though. Also I hate Belgium that fake country doesn’t deserve the Congo especially after what they’ve done

[slender kernel]

the british def would not have got all of the drc

as it was given to belgium as to not anger any major power

[calm shell]

I tried to make up for the fact they lost South Africa and west African holdings

And other holdings

[slender kernel]

yeah but germany france wouldnt allow it

[sage flare]

Germany wouldn’t get that much because they don’t like Germany

[calm shell]

In this case I made them lose Cameroon and Togo

So it’s more of an adjustment

Bruh not the bibi flag

[sage flare]

ahh map

[slender kernel]

also portugal prob would get invaded by germany

[vague sedge]

im getting pushed back

[slender kernel]

or they would just get ultimatumed

like they did historically

[calm shell]

Yeah I thought of that

[slender kernel]

in order for the germans to get acces to the indian ocea

[calm shell]

I don’t know what to do for Britain

[sage flare]

How do you have swastika flag, my is just the other one

wait

[calm shell]

Cause they should get less in my version than they did in real life

But not too unrealistic

[vague sedge]

mod

[sage flare]

oh

[vague sedge]

im playing sheep ai first time

cant even push throught benelux

[sage flare]

Why Mao zedomg look so sigma in his picture

[calm shell]

Cause he’s the goat

[sudden thistle]

Umm

Half the fun of the mod is figuring it out yourself

[slender kernel]

alright alright

[gaunt meadow]

✊ 🇮🇹 🇮🇹Festa della Liberazione Italia 🇮🇹 🇮🇹✊

[fair compass]

Me when i badly miscalculate a focus which automatically makes me declare war on a country

and i barely have time to prepare

[frail bolt]

Let me guess Albania is a major now?

[fair compass]

Insert Kingdom of Germany evaporating me and making me be a fragmented czech republic

[modest snow]

what dlc should i buy if i already have la resistance,no step back,battle of bosphrous and peace for our time

[fair compass]

Gott frfr..

[frail bolt]

Or arms against tyranny to get Mio’s
(military industrial org)

[modest snow]

götterdämmerung?

[fair compass]

Yes

[modest snow]

what does it give?

[fair compass]

idk how to explain cuz i dont have it myself-

[modest snow]

what does mio’s give

[fair compass]

but all i know is, belgium and austria exist..

[frail bolt]

The more you research with mio’s you can select it per category and it gives buffs like production attack and defence

And you have access to the market to buy supplies if your desperate

[modest snow]

do you think that arms against tryanny is better than by blood alone?

they are both very cheap on paradox store

[ripe slate]

focus tree wise, Id say so

peace options from BBA are pretty nice though

[modest snow]

but are the country packs yk trial of alleigance etc a must have

[lofty adder]

🦘 🦘 🦘 🦘

[strong umbra]

that has been integrated in the game

[calm shell]

Is there any vc/lounge for just chilling and watching each other play rather than playing a game together? Like if you wanna play single player or watch someone play it but still talk and vibe

[ripe slate]

I think it was deleted at some point because it wasnt used much

[terse skiff]

Mios are some of the most insane buffs. For example you used to need like 100 Soviet mils to build 150 tanks a day but now it's only 50. You used to need 60 mils to build 150 mechs a day but now it's only 30

[wide osprey]

this game is not a strategy at all 😭

[fair compass]

Me when italy puppets yugoslavia infront of me (im at war with yugoslavia and it just cancelled the war)

[grave sonnet]

Italy is so annoying they always declare war and when I start winning I just suddenly see

"Italy joined the Axis"

[fair compass]

It's worse when they randomly decide to have a civil war cuz they cant defend themselves

[grave sonnet]

They legit ruined my Bulgaria game everything was legit going perfect until Italy declared war on Albania

The think is

I can take on Italy and the axis

But it was alt hist

So Germany had

A couple of more allies

[fair compass]

one of them was peru right?

cuz for some reason peru joins when given the chance

[grave sonnet]

Yes...

[grave sonnet]

I mean they are fascist

So it does make sebce

[fair compass]

but..

i dont think the guy who led peru had any ideas of what was happening in europe

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[grave sonnet]

I think he was too busy being corrupt

[late pulsar]

first time taking uk successfully ts was mad easy

[grave sonnet]

Bro I hate these bots

[grave sonnet]

Good job 👍🏼

[late pulsar]

thanks

[fair compass]

tbh i barely know anything about ww2 in south america

all i know is

random war between ecuador and peru

[grave sonnet]

They were mostly idle

During it

They joined at the end

Except Brazil

They wanted to make a profit outta it

With trade from both sides

[vernal beacon]

why does sovietunion suck how i make them better

[worn cliff]

W stats?

[willow gull]

can i form a formable nation like austria-hungary if the nations are puppets & not part of my territory

[last cosmos]

Guys

i was on a multiplayer

then i left the game

[last cosmos]

and My ai defeated french player

[lofty adder]

Is this good division for def?

[jolly pier]

Is this a low amount or a big amount?

[severe lion]

is it normal for estonia to have a railway gun

[lethal ether]

what mod

[severe lion]

borders remind be of kaiser-reich-redux

his borders

but it isnt

shit

[lethal ether]

yeah

[severe lion]

but

[severe lion]

.

i stole it

[lofty adder]

Is this normal divisoon for def??????

[lofty adder]

@severe lion answer me

[severe lion]

i have no idea

there is bosnia tho

thats a hint

unless he liberated it

[lofty adder]

Im want make Romania great again

When german front have fall im want invade with my ~160 divisions from 2 fronts

[severe lion]

im dont give a shit

[lofty adder]

from italy and historical romanian territories

[severe lion]

jk

[severe lion]

no its crazy

[lost dawn]

HUNGARY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

[severe lion]

https://tenor.com/view/crazyhamburger-gif-18267569

[lofty adder]

can divions dying when im have 0 manpower lot of time

im had this problem when im played for norway against german empire reich

my divisions just dying

[jolly pier]

FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS

[grave sonnet]

BOSNAAAAAA

[ivory hull]

if manpower reaches 0 they get deleted

[wide osprey]

they do can dying 🙂

[serene breach]

yeah czechoslovakian industry is mid

[swift timber]

bismillah

[wide osprey]

<@&846894118219022336>

[swift timber]

what happened

mb wrong pic

[wide osprey]

sure bud 🙂 👍

[novel wren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1448721518849822912/1497310096412377158/15914921737505875045.gif

[vivid juniper]

Oof

Stalin went into a Civil War join Germany and now the Soviet union is very weak

[random nova]

could someone help me i think i have a bug

[vernal beacon]

banana empire

[lost dawn]

This is fine...

[patent thistle]

the czechoslovak country pack is really disappointing.

[lofty adder]

Why my manpower no up

[willow gull]

you don’t core most of the land

[lofty adder]

yes

im nazi and annexing my puppets

[willow gull]

you’re romania

[lofty adder]

yes

[willow gull]

you already have a lot of manpower in the field

[wide osprey]

oh he's not talking about the game 🙂

[willow gull]

i guess 🤣💀

[sudden thistle]

Hoi4 pro

[lofty adder]

Yes

Im inaved in germany when his front falls

Im want invade in poland now

Airlanding

[sudden thistle]

And that make u pro

[lofty adder]

Yes

Im full Professional in hoi 4

[sudden thistle]

Are you sure

[willow gull]

does romania have a formable nation ?

[lofty adder]

Yes

[lofty adder]

no

[willow gull]

what conscription level do you have

[willow gull]

yeah you’re pretty much just almost out

maybe make division smaller

[ivory hull]

whats your division template?

[ivory hull]

very bad

[ivory hull]

take out line arty and make it 18w

you want like 36w tanks to attack

[willow gull]

holy shit

[ivory hull]

what?

[willow gull]

a lot going on in the template

[ivory hull]

sadly too much

[willow gull]

take out the rocket artillery too

[ivory hull]

probably also the signal

and add flame tanks if he has nsb

[willow gull]

nuke the whole template

[lofty adder]

Can im join in Allies and invade in Warshaw pact

[ivory hull]

we arent in your game bro

[lofty adder]

Im scary them

[willow gull]

are you facist

[lofty adder]

Yes

[willow gull]

you can’t join allies unless germany invades you

[ivory hull]

cant romania still do the focus?

[willow gull]

which focus

[ivory hull]

probably the one he send

[willow gull]

oh yeah

[ivory hull]

i cant read cyrillic

[willow gull]

yeah you should be able to join

is he fighting a democratic germany

[ivory hull]

think he wants to join the allies to fight the warsaw pact

[ivory hull]

.

[severe monolith]

Hungarian democracy

Love the awful resolution it posted in 10/10

[icy lion]

as someone who is rly bad at this game is this good (end of july 1941)

[ivory hull]

you can lwk hold as france

tbh

[severe monolith]

Doing pretty good tbh

[icy lion]

atleast better than historical france

[severe monolith]

I'd see about trying to find a weak point and get a nice encirclement

[icy lion]

WHEN ARE THERE GONNA ATTACK SOVIET UNION

[ivory hull]

when i played france germany never declared lol

[icy lion]

i dont think im gonna be able to do that

red air

[severe monolith]

got any offensive divisions?

[icy lion]

entire air force destroyed

[ivory hull]

no aa?

[icy lion]

max static aa

[ivory hull]

in your divs?

[severe monolith]

get some aa support companies in your divs

[icy lion]

no...

i forgor to make aa

[ivory hull]

whats all your templates?

[icy lion]

most used one is 9 inf, 1 artillery, support artillery, eng, and cavalry recon

[ivory hull]

take out the line artillery

and the recon

[severe monolith]

i'd remove cav recon ngl

[ivory hull]

the rest is okay

and for offensive?

stuff

[icy lion]

why

[ivory hull]

its bad

[icy lion]

uh ok

[ivory hull]

i can send you a vid for that if you want

[severe monolith]

ngl if i can afford it i still do 9/1 for general infantry

[ivory hull]

its bad tho

[severe monolith]

I prefer to do 9/0, and then if i have to use offensive infantry, either 9/2 or 9/3

[severe monolith]

what makes 9/1 so bad?

[ivory hull]

even worse

[ivory hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IIjk4bAh68

watch this

for offensives just use special forces

or tanks

[icy lion]

US WHERE R U

[ivory hull]

or inf bricks

[icy lion]

WHY IS BRITISH NOT SEND DIVS

[ivory hull]

anything but line artillery

[ivory hull]

they will once youve got the lowlands from my experience

like when your in belgium

they start slowly sending divs

[severe monolith]

as i said, If i cant afford tanks, i use 9/2's or 9/3's

THey work fine against the ai

[ivory hull]

still very bad

[severe monolith]

they may not be optimal

[ivory hull]

you lose equipment

just use special forces

so much better

[icy lion]

im not gonna be doing offesnvie it seems like

[ivory hull]

you have to tho some day

[willow gull]

AI hates france

[severe monolith]

never cared to use special forces other than marines and paratroopers

[acoustic wasp]

does anyone have an actually good armoured template that is not spgs, medium tanks that doesn't de org in 3 seconds like the ones on clickbait youtube.

I want a quick one, I'm bored of the infantry armoured one, once i switch to motorised and make my tanks a bit quicker they're like so shit

[ivory hull]

use rangers if you have them and mountaineers are also good

[acoustic wasp]

for single player

[ivory hull]

why not spgs?

theyre the best lol

[acoustic wasp]

im bored i want to use medium tanks with howitzers

change it up

[icy lion]

maybe after someone helps me

[ivory hull]

thats literally a spg but with one less click

[icy lion]

or germany attacks ussr

[ivory hull]

lol

[ivory hull]

how many divs do you have?

[acoustic wasp]

yeah but different stats a bit more armour and more tanks per division

[ivory hull]

armor isnt needed in sp

tbh

you dont need a lot

[icy lion]

164

but germany has way more

[ivory hull]

ok thats not bad

but you did get pushed pretty badly

hows the equipment?

[acoustic wasp]

i used the 4 4 motorised

4 4 2 tanks

anti air, armoured engineers, flamethrowers, logi, armoured recon

[icy lion]

germany outside of paris

italy hasnt done anything

[acoustic wasp]

cant even push Czechoslovakia

[icy lion]

im closing in on italian african colonies

[acoustic wasp]

organisation is below 30

[ivory hull]

you want ts

[acoustic wasp]

yeah that's what i have and it de orgs so quick

[ivory hull]

your picking the spg doctrine?

and you have cas?

[icy lion]

what is that 3d model lol

[ivory hull]

dont fight in low supply

[ivory hull]

we dont know

[willow gull]

what’s a good SPG template i’ve never used them

[icy lion]

me and british have almost destroyed then

[acoustic wasp]

no I didn't i tried armoured support infantry subdoc, maybe it's my flamethrowers? 1 man light turret and flamethrower only nothing else

[ivory hull]

smth like this

[ivory hull]

bro thats ass

whats your tank design lwk

[ivory hull]

try getting some good special forces

[acoustic wasp]

same as yours but instead of the extra mg i got a wet ammo storage

[icy lion]

like which

[willow gull]

do you throw it into infantry templates or make a specific division template

[ivory hull]

yea then thats fine

[ivory hull]

you have rangers?

[acoustic wasp]

you must have infantry with it otherwise the organisation will be so ass

[icy lion]

which r those

[ivory hull]

own tank divs

with 8 cavalry

10 tank battalions

[ivory hull]

you have the japan dlc?

[acoustic wasp]

the question is fast infantry like motorised or mechanised or cav or slow leg infantry

depending on whatever you want

[ivory hull]

cavalry is fine

[icy lion]

no

[ivory hull]

its like 60 less breakthrough than motorised

[ivory hull]

then use mountaineers

lwk

36w

[icy lion]

for what

no mountains

[ivory hull]

theyre still better than your inf

for pushing

[icy lion]

hmm maybe

[ivory hull]

and i dont think you can get enough tanks

and you dont wanna wait that long

to get tanks

so just get sf

[lofty adder]

im in cominntern now in warshaw pact

im join in warshaw pact

turkey is traitor

[willow gull]

do you put spg on small or medium tanks

[acoustic wasp]

they consume less supplies and have more organisation so they can fight for longer than normal infantry and take less debuffs in low supply areas they're just infantry on steroids

[willow gull]

lmao

[acoustic wasp]

as well as the good terrain modifiers

[acoustic wasp]

medium

[ivory hull]

theyre mediums

you want medium spgs

[willow gull]

genius

[lofty adder]

what im need to do

[willow gull]

just put divisions on the turkish border & leave them there

don’t bother attacking

[lofty adder]

im want step back to making circles

with italians

[ivory hull]

you want them to be 36w

[willow gull]

what would you use instead of howitzer in 1936

[ivory hull]

in 1936 you dont use anything lol

cheap chassis convert later

why do you need tanks in 36?

as who?

[willow gull]

germany

gotta build up the army ykyk

[ivory hull]

produce inter war chassis with 3 man turret and heavy machine gun

then once you have howitzer 1

[icy lion]

y 36

[ivory hull]

convert that chassis into the good tank, make it a spg and convert from stockpile

[ivory hull]

best for attacking

[icy lion]

is 36 like good

ok

but like

france is kinda poor

[acoustic wasp]

ok so @ivory hull whats the best way to micro the armour? just grab 4 units, set them on rigid cohesion and start making small encirclments and cleaning them up? or do i need to have more or less or what? some tiles have like 8-9 infantry divisions

[ivory hull]

you can still get it

[icy lion]

i mean not poor

but like

getting desoytred

axis has like 10 divisions per tile

and a lot of supply

[lofty adder]

im leave why im invaded in italy

idiot turkey with turkish invading focus

[willow gull]

do you put on & special features

[ivory hull]

8 to 9 inf will melt while fighting those tanks, so yea just fight where supply is and hang along supply and encircle

[ivory hull]

yea you can also add the special modules and radios

[willow gull]

bro what are you doing 🤣😭😭😭

[ivory hull]

36w mountaineers with flame tanks can take care of that

kinda

[willow gull]

bet

[ivory hull]

put like 20 factories until you convert

will have like 5k by war

[willow gull]

dubs thank you

[ivory hull]

so thats like 16 divs

or smth

more like 12

also rush air

on germany

[acoustic wasp]

i use this + logi, flamethrower tanks and armoured engineers, thats what i was complaining about it deorged so quick

or do i remove 2 tanks and add infantry instead

[ivory hull]

remove 2 tanks, 2 more motorised/cavalry

add engineers

support arty

and flame tanks

then its good

also

spg

+45% soft attack

also

no logi

because

you dont want to be in bad supply

either way

so you dont have to protect against bad supply

you shouldnt be going into those areas

[icy lion]

wait britain sending 15 divs better than 1 ig

[lofty adder]

I’m had few divisions

I’m can’t def sea land and France with turkey sea land in Romania

I’m out 24 divisions and my front with Italy fall

[icy lion]

seems like axis is rly struggling

lost africa

still attacking france norway and greece

in seonc half of 1941

athens paris and oslo have not fallen yet

[rose narwhal]

Are there any good paths for USA in TFR?

Does anyone know?

[ivory hull]

probably ask on their dc?

[silk furnace]

TRUE

[rose narwhal]

Well yea

you could

but Im not part of it

so I decided to ask here

[silk furnace]

join it

[ivory hull]

just join?

[rose narwhal]

Meh

I might aswell ask here

Unless people here have an explicit problem with answering that

[silk furnace]

(not esports btw)

[ivory hull]

probably like 25% of people played the mod

in here

[rose narwhal]

25 is a lot

[ivory hull]

heard atomwaffen is good

[ivory hull]

in the tfr discord its like 100%

[rose narwhal]

Yea heard that too, but couldnt confirm

[silk furnace]

tfr is like modern day right?

[rose narwhal]

Yea

[ivory hull]

yea alternative modern day

US has a civil war

nato collapses

[silk furnace]

ohh

[ivory hull]

eu-russia war

actually 2 eu-russia wars

and japan china conflict

[rose narwhal]

Yea Ill try it

Thanks

[ivory hull]

also kinda hard tho

[silk furnace]

wait is that the one where the usa has like 200 diff paths or sum?

[ivory hull]

yea think so

[lofty adder]

Why so ez

trophy

[icy lion]

the good thing is that germany has way more casualties

2m vs my 600k

[dire saffron]

is there a specific place I should do a bug report? I did one post on forums 3 years ago and it still hasnt received any answer or anything

[wide osprey]

why is it so big 😭

[wide osprey]

what is the bug

[icy lion]

its gonna roll over the enemy city

[dire saffron]

getting "Squash the opposition" focus on Estonia

[wide osprey]

i guess it is no a bug

🧐

not a bug but just poor design or oversight by the devs 🙂

[craggy trail]

Probably a bigger tank models mod

[upbeat tundra]

ah yes the t3500 land cruiser "soviet ratte"

[sly venture]

its beutiful

[wide osprey]

who tf needs bigger tank models 😭

it's like the half of the country size

[vital cove]

its a land cruiser

land cruiser is like

the size of 4 tanks

[silk furnace]

i think its an active bug

i saw it a lot recently

[wide osprey]

IT IS BIGGER THAN THE WHOLE LUXEMBURG 😭 🥀

[upbeat tundra]

the only "bigger" model id say wwe need is like the railway guns

[willow gull]

i have 72 divisions why can’t i do anschluss?

[ivory hull]

do you have the dlc?

[craggy trail]

The soviets have their own t-34 amalgamation landcruiser

[willow gull]

yes

[ivory hull]

why dont you day 1 anschluss

[willow gull]

wdym

[ivory hull]

ok not day 1 but rushing anschluss

[ivory hull]

in like may

36

[willow gull]

how do you do it

[dire saffron]

in any case I'd like it to be fixed and that's why i made the forum post and I think I mentioned it here aswell but it never got any response. Is there a proper place to ask avbout it?

[ivory hull]

day 1 train 22 divs, 18 mils on guns

deploy divs when trained

do the focuses

[willow gull]

i’ll try it rq

[ivory hull]

do rheinland, führerprinzip, todt, reorganize

then anschluss

[willow gull]

starting infantry division ?

[ivory hull]

yes

[sly venture]

how do i remove industrealist veto

[ivory hull]

industry tree

[upbeat tundra]

how many troops do you have

thats the important factor

you need 500k manpower and 50k infantry EQ in the army

[ivory hull]

thats for no dlc

with dlc

you need 24 times the army

[willow gull]

i see

i was thinking you still had to do it the old way

thx

[ivory hull]

np

[wide osprey]

you can try to post it on general hoi4 forum and ask people if is intented and it will increase the chance of devs seeing this by 63% (approx.)

🙂

[dire saffron]

well yeah I did https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/hoi-4-cant-go-unaligned-route-as-estonia-squash-the-opposition-focus-1-12-10-91f2-0f26.1570598/

[wide osprey]

you've got to bump it up don't you knoooow

[dire saffron]

well I did as you can see a year later xd

i thought the paradox forums are dead now and all moved over to discord

[wide osprey]

sorry fren you tried your best

😔

this bug will not be fixed

[static creek]

Last time I played a semi-historical game, I was told to go hisotrical path, and when I didn't, they just got mad and told other majors to garatee every country around me.

[ivory hull]

ok?

[lofty adder]

road to 56 is hoi 4 without dlc

focus tree like vanila hoi

[opal nymph]

vanilla hoi has focus trees like vanilla hoi

[lofty adder]

you understand me

[lofty adder]

im mean vanila hoi 4 without dlc

but road to 56 is old mod

[willow gull]

@ivory hull what should i put the SPG in division wise

[ivory hull]

like the tank division?

[willow gull]

like it’s own motorized division or put it in infantry