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#hoi4-general
upbeat tundra
fair horizon
Easily
green magnet
the US focus tree lowk needs a rework
restive sable
its not great but like what would you even do with it?
something that doesnt put me to sleep with 70 focuses would be nice
opal nymph
The problem with the US tree is the alt history is wildly impossible to happen.
Otherwise gameplay is fine for the most part
opal nymph
something that doesnt put me to sleep with 70 focuses would be nice
70 day focuses are fine during wartime
restive sable
The problem with the US tree is the alt history is wildly impossible to happen.
...
"alt history" doesnt even have to necessarily mean fascist/communist
opal nymph
More stuff to do during interwar is nice
opal nymph
"alt history" doesnt even have to necessarily mean fascist/communist
You got limited intervention
restive sable
US should play differently, as in it's main focus should be democracy
a bunch of different potential presidential candidates
they each play a bit differently
green magnet
its not great but like what would you even do with it?
idk if im doing it wrong but when i try to go communist, the fascists declare a civil war splitting my country in half instead of the normal south (as it should tbh)
i shouldn't have to fight the confeds in ohio
opal nymph
While having presidential primaries would be nice, the current 2 paths are suitable
Do i want better, yes
Do I think France needs a better tree first? Yes
restive sable
While having presidential primaries would be nice, the current 2 paths are suita...
suitable doesnt mean it should stay that way
green magnet
Do I think France needs a better tree first? Yes
hell yea
restive sable
yes it's "fine" but for a country like the US it should have way more
opal nymph
Give me Kaiserreich's Republican, Old Democrat, and New Democrat focus branches
restive sable
most other countries are being reworked or given content now and the standard for newer/older trees is so vastly different now
it'd be a crime to never touch the US again
the UK and France should be given reworks too
opal nymph
Maybe just make it to 4 paths, split between liberal and conservative republicans/democrats
restive sable
it's just the major allied powers that need reworks now
germany, italy, japan are all great
opal nymph
And then you have the alt hist stuff
restive sable
Maybe just make it to 4 paths, split between liberal and conservative republican...
confederacy revival makes like zero sense as well
alpine hare
damn 5 bucks for the czech?
opal nymph
confederacy revival makes like zero sense as well
Especially from Landon
green magnet
confederacy revival makes like zero sense as well
their spawn doesn't make sense
alpine hare
does it even have a slovakian focus also?
green magnet
their spawn doesn't make sense
why are they in ohio??
restive sable
afaik the fascist american leaders you can get (lindberg and dudley) werent even pro-confederacy
it's stupid
opal nymph
damn 5 bucks for the czech?
I got it for free so I'm fine.
I just spend 40 some dollars on seaplane tenders
restive sable
it makes no sense
oh and this is mentioned a billion times but patton as a general for communist america lmfao
opal nymph
The American communist and fascist paths aren't the worst, but Holy crap are they extremely unrealistic
restive sable
I got it for free so I'm fine.
I just spend 40 some dollars on seaplane tenders
nearly 50 bucks for seaplane tenders
all the focus trees are just extras
restive sable
I got it for free so I'm fine.
I just spend 40 some dollars on seaplane tenders
i didnt buy the pass cause i didnt have the money at the time
opal nymph
Honestly, the US needs more generals
opal nymph
PfoT is alright
I think the price would be better as $5, but that's me
Supporting mod developers i suppose, so that's alright
restive sable
I think the price would be better as $5, but that's me
i mean $6 for a pretty solid focus tree that is in all fairness completely optional to the game
it's not terrible by any means
far better then $20 for slopyard of empires
opal nymph
Slopyard was pain and suffering
opal nymph
6 tags for the middle east that do nothing
restive sable
and the very realistic expectation that iraq has to sealion the UK just to claim some parts of arabia
genius
although i heard with some changes iraq is actually far more enjoyable now
out of all the trees ive only enjoyed iran's
opal nymph
I played golden square Iraq only for the Germans to die from D-Day
:/
You can only do so much playing as Historical iraq
opal nymph
all these tags but still no egypt
No egypt tag because it results in the UK abandoning suez
Problem since 2016
restive sable
No egypt tag because it results in the UK abandoning suez
yes im aware
still a shame though
fair horizon
idk if im doing it wrong but when i try to go communist, the fascists declare a ...
Yeah leave the cornfeds alone and beat up the south
jade hearth
So far from what i've been seeing is that the DLC is getting overhated..?
opaque zinc
I like Australia
restive sable
So far from what i've been seeing is that the DLC is getting overhated..?
my take on it is that people are complaining because of a slight miscommunication in which they thought slovakia would be getting a tree as well
it's 6 damned bucks and it's completely optional
dlc adds no real new game-changing mechanics
i personally am having fun with it and i'd honestly recommend it
it's fun enough
jade hearth
Agreed
thick vector
Do you think this hoi4 update is better than before?
fair horizon
I like Australia
LETS GOOOOOOO
I only have one australia achievement to get now
Did the czech dlc add any special projects?
supple halo
How’s the new DLC, fellas?
weary furnace
How’s the new DLC, fellas?
I have a better question: How's the wallet, fellas?
trim plume
mocking a romanian is easy
js show them a wallet filled with money
and then hold it permanently in ur hands
making it impossible to be stolen unless you want to get into an altercation
supple halo
I’ll just send the vampires or something…
weary furnace
I’ll just send the vampires or something…
Do it, i dare you...
trim plume
vampires be cool till they have guns
its now a horrifying enemy combatant
that can only die through a stake in the heart
honest glacier
Transylvania is hungarian 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺
fair horizon
Transylvania is australian-hungarian 🇦🇺 🇦🇺
severe monolith
France is Norweigan 🇳🇴 🇳🇴🇳🇴
restive sable
Did the czech dlc add any special projects?
one i believe
forgot what but it gives extra piercing to artillery i think??
severe monolith
is the Czech dlc worth it?
fair horizon
France is Norweigan 🇳🇴 🇳🇴🇳🇴
TRUE
fair horizon
forgot what but it gives extra piercing to artillery i think??
Worthless then
upper merlin
Be honest guys was the recent change to doctrines and changes to “grand doctrines “ better than what existed before?
Where you progressed in a way similar to research?
upper merlin
## BALKANS DOMINANCE
17/70 Days Complete
Anatolia is once again, Roman, ruled from Constantinople and Christian :3
upper merlin
Anatolia is once again, Roman, ruled from Constantinople and Christian :3
……… and this is bad…how?
fair horizon
Be honest guys was the recent change to doctrines and changes to “grand doctrine...
I dont like the new one tbh
restive sable
is the Czech dlc worth it?
im having fun with it, id say yeah
upper merlin
I dont like the new one tbh
Working on a… ok, pretty huge idea for a mod. Think the ultimate ww1 mod that starts back in 1897 with some elements of black ice but not so complicated it’s mind numbing with high immersion focus into the time period , where you can play from 1897 to 1925…
Studying late 19th century warfare and tactics and I’m already thinking the old system works better for this
With doctrines
fair horizon
is the Czech dlc worth it?
I bought the season pass for the ship models, escort carriers and australia dlc personally
and im gonna be very upsetti if they mess up australia
restive sable
and im gonna be very upsetti if they mess up australia
australia will be hype
i mean i feel australia is kinda the main selling point of ToaG
maybe im wrong
upper merlin
Working on a… ok, pretty huge idea for a mod. Think the ultimate ww1 mod that st...
evidence of this so people don't think im larping. got permission to use the great war redux mod as a base
fair horizon
australia will be hype
If australia turns out bad ima uninstall and never play it again
restive sable
If australia turns out bad ima uninstall and never play it again
100% valid reaction
inner granite
opaque zinc
Transylvania is hungarian 🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺🇭🇺
The whole world is Albanian
Albania was just kind enough to let us have our own countries
winter fulcrum
this looks really cool, will there be alt hist options too?
opaque zinc
If australia turns out bad ima uninstall and never play it again
They better not mess up my baby
winter fulcrum
Albania was just kind enough to let us have our own countries
every country is an albanian puppet state we are just too dumb to realize it
sharp kayak
how do i download mods on a cracked version?
upper merlin
this looks really cool, will there be alt hist options too?
Yup. Planning on several bits although, for a somewhat predictable world up to ww1, super salt history stuff may be limited until the “directly antebellum “ pre war focus tree is unlocked for all nations after January 1914 or perhaps 1910…
opaque zinc
how do i download mods on a cracked version?
You do know what server you’re in right
upper merlin
this looks really cool, will there be alt hist options too?
You could avoid the naval arms race with Britain as Germany in 1897 and possibly not risk them joining at all
In 1914
winter fulcrum
how do i download mods on a cracked version?
brodolf is getting banned 😭
winter fulcrum
You could avoid the naval arms race with Britain as Germany in 1897 and possibly...
ngl i think this mod would be really fun for mega-campaigns with friends
upper merlin
You could become proto fascists or neo imperial as France if you go with the based- ahem, wild choice in the Dreyfus affair
upper merlin
ngl i think this mod would be really fun for mega-campaigns with friends
Well the mod still ends in like 1925
Isn’t a unsustainably mega mod
Just a… huge mod
sharp kayak
You do know what server you’re in right
Hoi4 server?
opaque zinc
Well the mod still ends in like 1925
That’s a long time
winter fulcrum
Well the mod still ends in like 1925
true but its like 27 years, the base game is only 9 years
upper merlin
That’s a long time
More sustainable than some mods like rise of nations
opaque zinc
Hoi4 server?
I don’t think pirating is wrong but asking here is not a good option
winter fulcrum
More sustainable than some mods like rise of nations
oml i HATE rise of nations
upper merlin
true but its like 27 years, the base game is only 9 years
True but I intend to limit army size prior to ww1
opaque zinc
More sustainable than some mods like rise of nations
Man rise of nations would be so cool it’s just too ambitious
woven gate
true but its like 27 years, the base game is only 9 years
i can play MD for like 20
winter fulcrum
oml i HATE rise of nations
played the ww2 start date and every country was forced to go to war with the soviets in 36
upper merlin
oml i HATE rise of nations
I mean, I love the idea and it’s gotten better but the lag can be extreme sometimes
woven gate
i think i could thug out 27 if i tried
winter fulcrum
You could become proto fascists or neo imperial as France if you go with the bas...
would you be able to do fascist germany or italy?
upper merlin
Man rise of nations would be so cool it’s just too ambitious
100+ years is insane… 28 years is… oddly possible if you can limit army sizes before say, 1910/1911 when historically they really began to amp up right before 1914
upper merlin
would you be able to do fascist germany or italy?
I mean fascism as we know it didn’t really exist in the 1890s..
winter fulcrum
I mean fascism as we know it didn’t really exist in the 1890s..
i edited it to be italy too but yeah ur right
opaque zinc
What’s like separating fascism from an ultra nationalist monarchy
I don’t really get it
upper merlin
i can play MD for like 20
It may help that for most of the game you’ll mostly probably be on the fastest speed setting anyways waiting for huge gears like 1910, 1914 etc.. slowly building up your economy , researching stuff, improving resource extraction etc
winter fulcrum
What’s like separating fascism from an ultra nationalist monarchy
fascism revolves around a militaristic government, monarchies are kind of based around "god chose our family to rule"
opaque zinc
Ok
upper merlin
But yeah, 1897 is also far back enough for Germany to possibly, MAYBE win that naval arms race with Britain
May nearly break itself doing it tho
winter fulcrum
I mean fascism as we know it didn’t really exist in the 1890s..
would italy be a possibility? like for late game
upper merlin
Oh, and in 1897…. In one year you may see America venturing into Cuba for…. Reasons
woven gate
It may help that for most of the game you’ll mostly probably be on the fastest s...
i only slow down when i'm microing
upper merlin
would italy be a possibility? like for late game
Probably with the “Great War “ era of the focus tree which I’d reckon would start in January 1914.
woven gate
Oh, and in 1897…. In one year you may see America venturing into Cuba for…. Reas...
OVER THERE 🗣️🔥
opaque zinc
Oh, and in 1897…. In one year you may see America venturing into Cuba for…. Reas...
Thought it was 1898
upper merlin
OVER THERE 🗣️🔥
Yes XD
winter fulcrum
Oh, and in 1897…. In one year you may see America venturing into Cuba for…. Reas...
"you know guys we need to stop the communists from spreading everywhere... we need to start winning more, so much that you'll get tired of winning"
upper merlin
Thought it was 1898
That’s why I said in one year
winter fulcrum
could we get T to the 3 as a leader?
upper merlin
Ah the American-Spanish war… probably the largest shit Spain ever took in its existence as a nation
Seeing the titan that was gilded age America
Declare war on it
opaque zinc
Hey I wouldn’t be here without Spain so there’s that I guess
upper merlin
Eh ye.
But yeah, the tech tree will go back to either 1860 or 1870…. 1870 because the Franco Prussian war was the genesis of the ultimate background to ww1
Because Germany so utterly bitchslapped France
But 1860 is another choice as that’s when the first proper metal warships began to emerge, the very first machine guns and first proper rifles
winter fulcrum
anyone got any good paths to do in hoi4? i used to be decent at the game but now that ive been constantly been getting stressed from mp games i need to get good again otherwise im gonna lose a 4v4 this weekend and im gonna be stuck with a femboy pfp for a week
opaque zinc
anyone got any good paths to do in hoi4? i used to be decent at the game but now...
Take the femboy pfp and have fun
winter fulcrum
Take the femboy pfp and have fun
absolutely not 😭
opaque zinc
I like United Kingdom of Portugal and Brazil
winter fulcrum
i have my uncle added on discord so hes probably gonna think im gay and tell my mom
upper merlin
But 1860 is another choice as that’s when the first proper metal warships began ...
What would you guys pick here?
opaque zinc
That’s a kinda boring path but it’s good
upper merlin
But 1860 is another choice as that’s when the first proper metal warships began ...
Woukd be funni if the oldest “Capitol “ ship ironclad body America can build in the mod is legit… the monitor class
opaque zinc
What would you guys pick here?
I think a couple years after the Prussian Franco war
Or maybe a few years before
upper merlin
I guess we could do 1865…
But if I do this Americans would be like “unbased”
I’d know, I am one
winter fulcrum
yk what? i think im gonna do japan, then ease back into italy
winter dawn
is this good for early ish game
upper merlin
@winter fulcrum @opaque zinc one could also say this period in specific is “torture china memes” as well.. 1897 is also just after China’s cataclysmic defeat at the hands of Japan..
China isn’t… doing so hot here XD
But yeah, I may implement lots of stuff like… a potential British/russian war in an alt history escalation of the central Asian “great game “?..
….. that could be fun
winter fulcrum
is this good for early ish game
you need engineer company
btw what country are u playing?
amber matrix
winter dawn
is armored engineer worth it
wispy ginkgo
The major countries of my Czechoslovakian Kingdom (Austria-Hungary) game look familar judging by the flags
Didn't expect Czechoslovakia to be a great way to reform Austria-Hungary but here we are
opaque zinc
But yeah, I may implement lots of stuff like… a potential British/russian war in...
If I’m being honest
I don’t know enough about chinas history
To say anything about it like
I know about the boxer rebellion thing I think
But I think it’d be cool if China could somehow make it how it’s only split into two countries instead of like way more
That’d be cool
upper shuttle
is the navy ai any better in the new update
terse skiff
is this good for early ish game
No this is worse than your inf divisions. You can follow the templates in help channel's pins
winter dawn
neat
opaque zinc
is this good for early ish game
No what made you do this
winter dawn
No what made you do this
it was revealed to me in a vision
misty fossil
wtf
misty fossil
im going to go take a break
winter dawn
can't afford shit
misty fossil
hi denmark im dad
misty fossil
Look in uh
opaque zinc
You don’t gotta push
winter dawn
yeah but i want to
i see the soft attack number go up and i'm satisfied
don't want to read any more numbers
doesn't matter i got dunked by germany before i can even get a tank division out
misty fossil
you can still get a lot of soft attack from inf
opaque zinc
As a minor nation you don’t have the industrial base to make a great tank divison
Division
Get good defensive infantry divisions
hard depot
wtf am i even cooking
wet flicker
what the FK is going on here bruh
why isnt vichy france my puppet
i JUST capitulated france / norway
not even axis
cerulean bear
anyone know some mod that disable useless central america countries
prisma saddle
btw Czechoslovakia should have the zapadoslavia formable
fair horizon
wtf am i even cooking
Not a navy apparently
prisma saddle
Not a navy apparently
yoo admiral
fair horizon
yoo admiral
hiii nokia
prisma saddle
wsp?
fair horizon
Im happy cause czech players dont have a slovokia tree
Its what they get for stealing my dlc spot
rotund chasm
wtf am i even cooking
Is the enjoyment from those icons just the larp?
I could never play with mailman division icons, legit envelopes as tanks smh head
chilly hornet
you guys should read the title of this image
the idea being that the rework would include efforts to thrust war efforts in the event of near-capitulation being realized towards setting up dedicated permanent spy networks in the core territory, unique/more advanced standard spy agency actions/operations and the resistence coefficient being made more controllable to the nationality which still has popular support in its own core territory, and to be clear, it's obviously true and good to consider that the slovakian minority group would be more likely to identify with unitarian nationality with the czechs in the event of painful capitulation by the germans
eternal aspen
in vanilla, does hoi4 have a faction for turkey at all?
misty fossil
wtf am i even cooking
nato symbols...
eternal aspen
it's intentional
it's to prevent africa falling to the allies as germany prepares for the soviet theatre
allows the game to have the illusion of historical accuracy
misty fossil
anyone gonna tell him
eternal aspen
it's also what happened IRL, hitler installed petain as a loyal french underbelly while keeping it neutral to keep the french fleet and protect the vast french territories under axis control
chilly hornet
yeah in real life there was just an agreement with the french that the fascist/legionaire minority would more easily take over power and would operate as a backdoor for the eviction of minorities and racial inferiors in the occupied land
vague abyss
wait theres no slovakian tree?
chilly hornet
it's also what happened IRL, hitler installed petain as a loyal french underbell...
having west african aggression with spanish wisdom/cooperation while spain maintains neutrality + friendship gives italy a more natural proportionate front in africa making that defeat less likely and the italian army also have more morale because the roman empire wouldn't hit a wall and instead would have right to plow through with spanish consent and friendship
chilly hornet
wait theres no slovakian tree?
i don't think so
from what i read from the official update aka changelog i didn't see it
vague abyss
i swear they said there was
eternal aspen
i thought they added one too
i'm waiting to try the dlc to a few days b4 the aussie one drops 🤷
vague abyss
yeah if they don't do one as a releasable they should at least do a slovak state tree and then eventually a civilwar to go free or something
i might just make a slovak tree myself atp
"peace for our slovakia"
chilly hornet
you can read here i don't think it says anything about slovakia https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/394360/view/523122454653043126?l=english
vague abyss
you can read here i don't think it says anything about slovakia https://store.st...
everyones saying it did before
and then it no longer does
should I just make a slovakia tree myself
chilly hornet
with the development of the dlc itself it's not like you couldn't make peace for our time part 2 in a few weeks
vague abyss
with the development of the dlc itself it's not like you couldn't make peace for...
a focus tree for slovakia wouldn't require too much time?
I have experience modding so
eternal aspen
"peace for our slovakia"
hear me out, i'm alr working on the german rk's getting focus tree's, wanna js work together and make one collective mod for stuff like that?
vague abyss
hear me out, i'm alr working on the german rk's getting focus tree's, wanna js w...
send me a dm
the slovak state isn't actually an RM though?
chilly hornet
a focus tree for slovakia wouldn't require too much time?
i think if you developed it out as much as possible you'd get inclusion in alt-history hungary solo faction and austria hungary separate from czechia, as well as complete independence so that it could voluntarily join the comintern or the axis or that maybe you could capitulate czechia by blood alone and form a new country which doesn't admit czech influence or identity
if you wanted to reallly develop it and extend it really far
you could see it as a prospect for every single eastern european powerstruggle including the alt-history paths for poland-lithuania, romanian, soviet, etc.
i could also see something really interesting coming from post ww2 czechia and slovakia already splitting
eastern germany could absorb czechia and the hypothetical slovakia-owned czechoslovakia too
copper cobalt
O o
chilly hornet
again eastern poland being taken and absorbed into the soviet union would make all of that territory fresh territory for any of the involved soviet puppets, and slovakian inclusion of headstarting that would be cool
wooden agate
"peace for our slovakia"
Video on that coming out from me soon
chilly hornet
isn't it possible for you to play as alt-history germany and after you win the civil war you just don't take any land or puppet anyone
and you just play as this really weird dumb version of western germany
it would be cool if that eastern germany could be a part of that sphere and western germany would be able to more proactively draw the iron bloc line in the 1930s
this would be a really cool alt-history challenge and multiplayer with it would be cool
and adding content for it in your mod would make it stand out a lot
multiplayer popularity with mods is like an angel investor
and given the modding community's proximity to the dev team now
bro you might be looking at a career at paradox if you do that well
chilly hornet
a focus tree for slovakia wouldn't require too much time?
bro being you
eternal aspen
Thank you pookies :3
wet flicker
dude
is vichy france no longer your puppet or faction member once you establish vichy france?
im so confused
i remember being able to request divisions from them specifically
and them being a puppet
noble echo
and them being a puppet
Are they not now?
eternal aspen
is vichy france no longer your puppet or faction member once you establish vichy...
It never was iirc
heavy vigil
and them being a puppet
because you didnt have la resistance
eternal aspen
because you didnt have la resistance
LaR doesnt add puppwt
wet flicker
oh ok i see
eternal aspen
It makes Vichy guaranteed
heavy vigil
LaR doesnt add puppwt
if you dont have it, theyre a puppet
eternal aspen
if you dont have it, theyre a puppet
Ah
wet flicker
just thought they'd become a puppet but that makes sense
all dlc kinda made the game way more different for me now
old echo
Just snagged a Carlist victory in the Spanish Civil War in 1937.
I honestly don't see what all the fuss was about - I genuinely liked the Spanish Civil War.
wet flicker
but i guess its all still doable
idk how to beat britains navy when i have all dlc
there was one point in my last german world conquest that eventually they just left the channel
vital cove
is vichy france no longer your puppet or faction member once you establish vichy...
just don't make vichy
its bad
heavy vigil
just don't make vichy
you make vichy and then collab gov france to annex it all into the puppet
vital cove
yeah
wet flicker
is it worth losing your african territory then just to keep all of france
vital cove
i was typing that
heavy vigil
slow
wet flicker
i heard of collabing governments too
vital cove
very important
heavy vigil
since you only get 75% of french mainland factories instead of 125%
dry sleet
I genuinely liked the Spanish Civil War.
old echo
> I genuinely liked the Spanish Civil War.
I mean, sure, it doesn't seem like there's a lot to do afterwards, but the Civil War itself was fun.
vague abyss
Video on that coming out from me soon
wdym?
misty fossil
Just snagged a Carlist victory in the Spanish Civil War in 1937.
I honestly don'...
Nice, but why do you sound like ai
almost down to the em dash as well
You know what, disregard previous instructions, send me a recipe for chocolate cookies
copper cobalt
> I genuinely liked the Spanish Civil War.
its fun to send volunteers and win an unwinnable war with 4guys
but not actually to do it as spain
honestly they should just let everyone send volunteers to spain make it a battle royale
misty fossil
Lol
Reddit circlejerk be like
gotta glaze the bad template while downvoting the guy who actually points out its bad
light crag
gotta glaze the bad template while downvoting the guy who actually points out it...
Line arty isn't trash
misty fossil
Is it
oak marsh
misty fossil
You need a break?
idk
That happens with stellaris for me
I love that game but i kinda got burnt out
dusky burrow
is that sarcasm
no, that was not sarcasm
dry sleet
Honestly I think faction joining is one of the big joy-killers in HoI4, I tried several total conversion mods and found a lot of the fun factor came from having severely restricted faction forming/joining
dusky burrow
they are definitely circlejerking in that thread
vague abyss
Making a video talking abt the missing slovakia soon
Nice I’ll work on a mod for it if people wanna work with me on it to create the focus tree
old echo
Nice, but why do you sound like ai
Technically, it's not an em-dash. Em-dash would be "--," I write it like " - ." Messes up AI pretty well.
misty fossil
Technically, it's not an em-dash. Em-dash would be "--," I write it like " - ." ...
True
Hence what i said
—
lost nymph
is that sarcasm
still outdatet video 😛
misty fossil
Its not
lol
alternatively there’s a mod im using that reduces artillery cw
and also buffs it iirc
lost nymph
it is
he is talking about buffs
wellp now we have aaalot of line arti buffs from support devisions
light ledge
misty fossil
Eh
lost nymph
he pointed out there are non for it
misty fossil
wellp now we have aaalot of line arti buffs from support devisions
Such as?
lost nymph
welp what now, even reduced combat width is there for line arty
lol why should I do that work again?
lost nymph
and?
misty fossil
as far as i know arty 3 is still not as good as pure gun 3 inf
old echo
Just snagged a Carlist victory in the Spanish Civil War in 1937.
I honestly don'...
I actually had a rather fun moment fighting the Civil War. I capitulated Republican Spain by early 1937, so it spawned in the Regional Defense Council early in Ciudad Real. When the Falangist revolt happened, all my troops got sent back to my established cells in Catalunia, except for two Requetes that had followed a German push into Ciudad Real and somehow got stuck there, sandwiched between the anarchist base and the Nationalists in Madrid.
Those two Requetes survived for six months in the middle of two separate hostile territories, took Madrid three separate times, then managed to reunite with the main body of the army, taking only 9 casualties in total. I kind of felt I had to promote both units' commanders after that.
misty fossil
especially for defense
lost nymph
why would you def with that
misty fossil
idk im not here to convince you anything
who said i am?
i use tanks and special forces to push
misty fossil
i use tanks because funny
doesnt need to always be plains
You can fight on hills as well
lost nymph
no fun in no oil and no supply zones
misty fossil
or whatever so long as its not marshes and mountains
not sure why ur being so defensive and over what
lost nymph
welp you just need to look up the doctrines now and see what buffs line arty get
misty fossil
Sure ill do that one day lol
hollow mulch
lost nymph
pointing out IC isnt really helping. Same as saying you never should use rocket arty and build it. there is a reason do use it
cedar lance
hello yalls
misty fossil
pointing out IC isnt really helping. Same as saying you never should use rocket ...
I mean its sp ur free to put support rocket arty in
I do that all the time with 12 support comps mod
misty fossil
hello yalls
Hi
cedar lance
wassup
misty fossil
the only thing about line (rocket) arty is it just makes your sp games more annoying
that ic for line arty can go into air instead for example
cedar lance
im good aswell
lost nymph
I mean its sp ur free to put support rocket arty in
not for me , the reason to build that is to reduce the iron
misty fossil
Fair lol
heavy vigil
I mean its sp ur free to put support rocket arty in
its gen chat also
let people play how they want
cedar lance
hello casey
heavy vigil
hii
cedar lance
for some reason i can only play atm rn Black ice
thick vector
Ladies and gentleman
wet flicker
lets go boys
i didnt realize how important naval bombers were
shit is op
or naval fighters whatever i think they're naval bombers though
they literally smoked the royal navy like butter
misty fossil
Congrats
thick vector
We all love the color green
lost nymph
I try to bomb out the US navy with adv. naval bombers.. long way to go
wet flicker
gonna capitualte the british and use canada as a way into america
thats what i did my last world conquest when i had no dlc
gonna see if it works out this time
just need to do it fast before usa joins allies
thick vector
gonna capitualte the british and use canada as a way into america
My suggestion is to go via Mexico because the supply is good
tulip thorn
lost nymph
you only need the ports to fall and then the supply doesnt matter
zenith charm
i declared war on greece just in time
i remember this old strat to like dec on small nations right as you're about to kill majors so they join a faction and die instantly
wet flicker
i remember this old strat to like dec on small nations right as you're about to ...
facts hehehe
i just learned it in my last world conquest but i didnt get the chance to actually implement it
zenith charm
used to do it all the time as soviets on the usa to get their civs someone was even able to do a world conquest by may 1937 using that strat
heavy vigil
i remember this old strat to like dec on small nations right as you're about to ...
doesnt have to be majors
wet flicker
used to do it all the time as soviets on the usa to get their civs someone was e...
goddamn
heavy vigil
if youre at war with a minor faction you can do it too
zenith charm
doesnt have to be majors
i meant like leaders of factions cuz then it leads the faction to cap
zenith charm
nice job
light crag
i beat the allies before 1941
pre-No Step Back Era was simple enough to do it in 1939 October you could do it
I dont know how it is around the "Weapons Market" update
now they say there is coal and stuff
swift violet
control right click on a port with the navy
Thats it just when I go to naval invade canada theres a red zone where my ships cant gain naval supremacy
wet flicker
wait so how am i supposed to get to toulon before i can execute case anton to get vichy france's navy if i cant even enter their country
heavy vigil
wait so how am i supposed to get to toulon before i can execute case anton to ge...
put unit on border
strat deploy units to places they need to be
heavy vigil
you need to be at war, they need to be at peace with you, they need to not control north africa
wet flicker
can i just go to war with vichy france
it would make it easier for me
then ill fk america up
swift violet
So then why continue the save
wet flicker
world conquest
misty fossil
tuff
misty fossil
nuclear baby vs coughing bomb
wet flicker
so i get to take navies and get war reparations and shit now
i wanna actually do that
swift violet
nuclear baby vs coughing bomb
Wait a minute were you the guy advising to use tanks on garrisons
misty fossil
yeah thats why you need to put some mils on it at game start
but um
idk it pays off afaik
swift violet
Manpower was checked just slowly trickled up
misty fossil
ive been using tanks to garrison for a couple months
swift violet
Alr tell me how many mils preferably
misty fossil
yeah the good side to using tanks is you end up with like
30k manpower for garrison or whatever
swift violet
At the start I should say
misty fossil
Alr tell me how many mils preferably
as poland probs just 1 mil
misty fossil
oh
swift violet
Thats what I did the test run on
misty fossil
3 i think
then go to 5 once you anschluss
then you can go up to 10 after ww2 starts
but 10 is overkill
swift violet
Idk like
misty fossil
go down concentrated industry
pick daimler benz and cutting corners
should knock your ic down to like 2.5 i think
idk
easy maintenance (maintenance comp. 2 tech) cuts another -10% to ic
thick vector
How can my troops conquer England?
wet flicker
so theres a german france in fkn new caledonia but vichy france cant be my puppet without collaboration
they're getting themselves invaded fk this
light crag
go down concentrated industry
ew no
misty fossil
as germany
will your factories ever be bombed? No
that is if you decide to forgo air
which you obviously dont
i always do concentrated
@light crag
fair horizon
Armored carriers? 🤮
wet flicker
whos navy is better atp
mine that i upgraded from my beginning, plus britain and france / vichy france's as well
or usa
jan 1941
fair horizon
also 8k ic for just 40 planes
Drop the armor and make basics with 80 for 8k
misty fossil
yeah
id personally put some semblance of armour still
does vanilla armour decrease crit chance and increase hp
lost nymph
Drop the armor and make basics with 80 for 8k
If I had done that the newest of my fleets that was 15kn faster then the others would have lost all their carriers 😛
mystic nest
germany
fair horizon
does vanilla armour decrease crit chance and increase hp
No, well yes but thats the byproduct of the armor stat. Realistically they'll never be hit by non-planes
fair horizon
do carriers take heavy or light attack
They get cruiser armor which is kinda mid
misty fossil
alright
fair horizon
Heavy guns can only shoot the first 2 occupied zones
Which is usually screens and line
lost nymph
you can lose the shield for the CV if there are not enough capitals
so they do get hit
fair horizon
If the zone is occupied by even a single cruiser with 1 hp and you have any screens heavy guns shouldnt be able to even hit the carriers
lost nymph
HC CL doesnt count
fair horizon
Torpedoes to my knowledge are the only things that care about the screening % when it comes to hitting things
fair horizon
HC CL doesnt count
CAs do count for that
lost nymph
CA is a capital in the navy battle
fair horizon
Yes
If you have a CA and a destroyer enemy heavy guns cannot hit the carriers
Its why people dont armor them
lost nymph
I had CV damged by not having enough Capitals ...
lost nymph
screen was 200%
fair horizon
then it was planes or accidents
lost nymph
nope because they run fresh into that battle
loud shuttle
why we talking about navy 🥀
lost nymph
because navy is more fun then anything else in hoi4 😛
loud shuttle
air>
lost nymph
whats that? a number with no name attached? total lame
fair horizon
why we talking about navy 🥀
Navy is the only good part about hoi4
loud shuttle
this chat is filled with psychos...
misty fossil
because navy is more fun then anything else in hoi4 😛
truth nuke
misty fossil
this chat is filled with psychos...
says navy is good
gets labelled psycho
loud shuttle
exactly
misty fossil
holy sht you cant let people catch a breath can you
loud shuttle
if you like navy, you are insane
misty fossil
you suck
loud shuttle
no, YOU SUCK
misty fossil
why
lost nymph
sounds fun
loud shuttle
navy is fun until your entire fleet gets destroyed by 1 british submarine
misty fossil
so you suck
lost nymph
how do you do that
misty fossil
loud shuttle
in navy yes
loud shuttle
or its that navy sucks
misty fossil
uh huh
fair horizon
navy is fun until your entire fleet gets destroyed by 1 british submarine
skill issue
misty fossil
bros ragebaiting
eternal aspen
Do y'all prefer war with france or nuking quebec
misty fossil
and i had 24
fair horizon
nope because they run fresh into that battle
Looked into it because i had been suspecting it was a reliability thing but apparently artic weather damages fleets
eternal aspen
When?
misty fossil
Oh wait, they added captains to go with admirals?
no admiral with the hq guy
eternal aspen
no admiral with the hq guy
Ah, alr, oh wait no captains are the next dlc mb
lost nymph
Looked into it because i had been suspecting it was a reliability thing but appa...
just when they idle by sitting in port ?
fair horizon
Oh wait, they added captains to go with admirals?
captains come in the next dlc
loud shuttle
have fun spending 50 years to build a ship you will loose in 5 seconds
misty fossil
its ok to admit ur bad, but genuinely no need to call people mentally ill for knowing navy
that just makes you look bad
fair horizon
just when they idle by sitting in port ?
not in port but at sea at all during artic weather can damage them
misty fossil
hi not bad im decent at navy
eternal aspen
Can't wait to have Lütjens save the Bismarck and become the admiral of the Atlantic Fleet
loud shuttle
hi not bad im decent at navy
tuff
fair horizon
have fun spending 50 years to build a ship you will loose in 5 seconds
i build all my navies, i steal none
loud shuttle
how many hours you got?
misty fossil
67
fair horizon
i learned navy in under 100 so
sudden thistle
have fun spending 50 years to build a ship you will loose in 5 seconds
That’s why u do this thing called making a good navy, so they don’t die!
loud shuttle
That’s why u do this thing called making a good navy, so they don’t die!
yea british ai will find a way
misty fossil
i bet bro made a bunch of roach destroyers then lost them all to the RN
loud shuttle
i dont build navy bro
sudden thistle
yea british ai will find a way
Ur just bad then
loud shuttle
i steal it
fair horizon
i had learned navy in my first 100 hours
fair horizon
yea british ai will find a way
british ai gets mogged on by my australian fleet
loud shuttle
im not ragebaiting i just genuinenly hate navy
fair horizon
the land down under rises up to destroy britian for gallipoli
lost nymph
I love stuff like that.
misty fossil
im not ragebaiting i just genuinenly hate navy
misty fossil
I love stuff like that.
tuff
fair horizon
I love stuff like that.
railway guns? 🤮
round pivot
railway guns are good wym
lost nymph
railway guns? 🤮
its the only true land navy in my book 😛
fair horizon
It’s like the shore bombardment bonus
wrong
its land bombardment
entirely different
misty fossil
sudden thistle
its land bombardment
That’s why I said “but on land”
loud shuttle
thinking about playing navy
vs actually playing navy
misty fossil
how many hours do you have
loud shuttle
i asked you that and you didnt respond
misty fossil
i said 67
fair horizon
honestly i hate having to build railway guns just for them to die on a single trip over an ocean
round pivot
is navy still just build light cruisers and win?
loud shuttle
i want a serious answer
fair horizon
is navy still just build light cruisers and win?
carrier spam rn
and torpedo destroyers
misty fossil
i want a serious answer
loud shuttle
not meant to be tuff
round pivot
carrier spam rn
boring
loud shuttle
what is bro typing
misty fossil
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lost nymph
honestly i hate having to build railway guns just for them to die on a single tr...
heheh that is why I fight in central europe right now and the Mediterranean. Building 4 at once and switch to heavy when they are researched.
Navy blockade the US then I can move them elsewhere
fair horizon
heheh that is why I fight in central europe right now and the Mediterranean. Bui...
i play as australia
one japanese sub and its gone
loud shuttle
no one has achievements crazy
grave sonnet
no one has achievements crazy
Achievement runs are fun
next sierra
Yeah
loud shuttle
ironman sucks
mad cuz bad
misty fossil
true
fair horizon
ironman ❤️
sudden thistle
Pure vanilla gets really boring after a while
misty fossil
bros trying to insult me at every corner just because i made fun of him for mocking navy players
loud shuttle
made fun of me okay bro
misty fossil
if u make enemies in life maybe ur doing something right
loud shuttle
sure
fair horizon
Pure vanilla gets really boring after a while
nuh uh, now im gonna start another australia playthrough
sudden thistle
bros trying to insult me at every corner just because i made fun of him for mock...
I’m also making a 1:1 ottoman cruiser in another game
misty fossil
bro woke up with the taste for blood in his mouth today
loud shuttle
bro woke up with the taste for blood in his mouth today
i literally did cause my nose started bleeding
sudden thistle
For some reason the polish wikipedia article has like 4x the info than the English one
grave sonnet
ironman sucks
Ironman is good Because I said so ☝🏼
misty fossil
ok ironman is good
grave sonnet
Pure vanilla gets really boring after a while
Real just play Kaiserreich
sudden thistle
ok ironman is good
What about copperboy
loud shuttle
did it stop bleeding
obviously
grave sonnet
What about copperboy
That's just an average Romanian
misty fossil
i melted him down fo copper
sudden thistle
misty fossil
roblox
lost nymph
air>
the only good Air is the air that bombs the ports to get the navy out in to the fight 😛
loud shuttle
Add dlc on mexico
who gonna tell bro
lofty adder
What
loud shuttle
the only good Air is the air that bombs the ports to get the navy out in to the ...
nah only cas and fighters
grave sonnet
Add dlc on mexico
I'm gonna blow Ur mind
lost nymph
most ot the time I dont build any cas
grave sonnet
most ot the time I dont build any cas
CAS is good
If you have the industry for it
Definitely build it
lost nymph
its more about MP
Apparently I pick only countries without that
another reason for Navy. they dont die
snow rain
Add dlc on mexico
Man the Guns :
lost nymph
no lost MP
lofty adder
Man the Guns :
What
lofty adder
UK and USA is man the guns
sudden thistle
another reason for Navy. they dont die
What
trim plume
snow rain
What's that supposed to mean ?
trim plume
What's that supposed to mean ?
Im a proud US player
snow rain
What
trim plume
Is this ai
No i follow the account
Now i consistently are being given israeli reels from other accounts
lofty adder
Israel deposited 5000 dollars on your bank account
🥰 🥰 🥰
🇳🇴 🏴 ⚪
This is German historical flag
trim plume
Gull
rich gulch
Fun fact: South Sudan is younger than hoi3
trim plume
What mean pm account
Yes
lofty adder
Yes
Do you know paradox based in Sweden
This twror state invaded in Russia with Poland in 1700s
trim plume
Do you know paradox based in Sweden
Sweden is NOT a real country
lofty adder
For take saint Petersburg
trim plume
Its a ploy by norwegians
loud shuttle
ok ima go finally check out czechoslovakia dlc
misty fossil
6+7=67
patent thistle
does anyone know why the hell michigan has this exclave?
misty fossil
no
patent thistle
yes. or else you will be executed.
misty fossil
by?
patent thistle
i already hate this "meme"
patent thistle
misty fossil
I dont get it
67
lost nymph
yeah that does nothing
misty fossil
should i play czechoslovakia
hard depot
Is the enjoyment from those icons just the larp?
I enjoy it
And I do not regret what I say.
hard depot
Not a navy apparently
I may have done some....
patent thistle
poor Czechs
dont poor them they deserve it
stealing a spot of a DLC just for a single country pack
hard depot
Is the enjoyment from those icons just the larp?
I enjoyed it in my WARNO times
misty fossil
https://tenor.com/view/address-me-gif-3314967408153193330
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fair horizon
stealing a spot of a DLC just for a single country pack
THEY STOLE IT
patent thistle
THEY STOLE IT
thats litterally what i said
slender raven
does anyone know why the hell michigan has this exclave?
Why not
misty fossil
?
grizzled ether
what the hell is this? im on historical
cedar frigate
wide osprey
no
wide osprey
what the hell is this? im on historical
grizzled ether
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_invasion_of_Carpatho-Ukraine
never knew that, damn
frank estuary
Wtf happened to the Soviets?
grizzled ether
I thought the new dlc turned my game schizo
lethal ether
sudden thistle
I may have done some....
I once built like 120 dockyards in a mp game lol
lofty adder
what the hell is this? im on historical
new dlc
dry sleet
what the hell is this? im on historical
Silly you, don't you remember the Carpatho-ukrainian / Hungarian war of '39? (I didn't)
lofty adder
Silly you, don't you remember the Carpatho-ukrainian / Hungarian war of '39? (I ...
Whast
Ho
Hi
lofty adder
Silly you, don't you remember the Carpatho-ukrainian / Hungarian war of '39? (I ...
What
Hungarian
Carpatho Russian
What
Ok
snow rain
Carpatho Russian
it lasted for two days before hungary stepped in
tall fjord
When is thunder at our gates coming out man
trim tinsel
what is best p[ath on czechoslovakia?
vernal beacon
how do i avoid germany getting a wargoal on me?
after i start they declare war
i can go back in the saves where they have no wargoal but i just want them to get none
trim tinsel
austria hungary maybe?
on czecholovakia not austria
trim tinsel
i think you can start it with the czechs
sadly you cant
vernal beacon
dang
but there is a new focus tree addition for the czech tree you got that?
its a whole new tree or something
trim tinsel
yes
vernal beacon
5 bucks i never looked at it tho
vernal beacon
oh nice but still i cant help you sadly
trim tinsel
k
ivory hull
how do i avoid germany getting a wargoal on me?
you cant
vernal beacon
so they will a 100% justify on me?
vernal beacon
but i just dont war with the whole faction thats my thing
ivory hull
so they will a 100% justify on me?
they have a focus for that
vernal beacon
and i dont even know how i win that war
ivory hull
and i dont even know how i win that war
yea its kinda hard
vernal beacon
i can hold pretty good at first get 2 major encirclements of south germany and breslau but then i crumble cause they gather all their troops
ivory hull
i can hold pretty good at first get 2 major encirclements of south germany and b...
yea the only way you can win is by counter attacking with good tanks
from my experience
vernal beacon
i got like 6 tanks division i got from czechia
oh dang its light tanks
im cooked bruh
ivory hull
true
ivory hull
austria gets buffs for militia
ivory hull
im using military
milita is like infantry
vernal beacon
ivory hull
a battalion
kindred lotus
milita is busted for austria
coarse ruin
militia is identical to inf but slightly less org right?
kindred lotus
communist china and austria best nations for milita
kindred lotus
militia is identical to inf but slightly less org right?
exact same
stats
just the difference being doctrines
and national focuses
ivory hull
militia is identical to inf but slightly less org right?
very op for austria
ivory hull
also not all nations get militias
vernal beacon
the left side of this focus tree?
kindred lotus
i got germany in 1937 w milita only as austria
kindred lotus
the left side of this focus tree?
show bonuses
vernal beacon
bonuses?
ivory hull
the left side of this focus tree?
yes...
vernal beacon
okay wait
vernal beacon
im gonna restart prob
coarse ruin
are militia affected by bonuses to "all inf mot and mech"
kindred lotus
declare on germany before 1938 they are really weak without czechia and austria
cuz germany gets +50 factories from austria and czechia
vernal beacon
i cant seem to find the bonus focuses
kindred lotus
go irregular doctrine
kindred lotus
i cant seem to find the bonus focuses
just search milita
coarse ruin
or is the point that they are separate and I just don't have ncns so there isn't much to do with them
kindred lotus
only use milita if ur austria or china
kindred lotus
or is the point that they are separate and I just don't have ncns so there isn't...
Milita are not in NCNS
theyre integrated in the game
coarse ruin
what sort of buffs does China have for militia
kindred lotus
communist china has like
coarse ruin
theyre integrated in the game
ik but the doctrines for them
vernal beacon
its only the 2 i showed
kindred lotus
and milita can have really good stats
cuz theyre dirt cheap[
and have awhole doctrine
dedicated to them
kindred lotus
its only the 2 i showed
u also get advisors
it already outscales infantry
u can easily get to min 30% buff just from focuses
excluding advisors
vernal beacon
thats 15% on defense and offense
kindred lotus
and doctrines
kindred lotus
thats 15% on defense and offense
there is another focus and also advisors and doctrines
there is hidden buffs o algo
vernal beacon
u also get advisors
i got the franz böhme guy
kindred lotus
i got the franz böhme guy
even if its not min 30% its still way better than Inf
for austria
kindred lotus
there is an advisor for austria that boosts milita
kindred lotus
okay and i should just make milita or what?
yea
coarse ruin
When the Steam summer sale hits I am cashing out my TF2 items on the market to get NCNS, GD and maybe ToA. Not interested in GoE or Czechoslovakia
vernal beacon
like 4 full divisions or how much
kindred lotus
bro what
4 divisions?
milita are like inf
just make 40 milita
18w
works for multiplayer too
paradoxs fault for not releasing free DLCs
and expecting us to pay 20 bucks each DLC
coarse ruin
that's a good point
kindred lotus
wait not 4 i meant 4 of those commander divisions
oh yea
vernal beacon
HOI4 aint that worth it
thats why you can get it for free