hoi4-general

[fair horizon]

id be so angry if someone could delete my admirals

[rotund chasm]

Generals grind real students

[heavy vigil]

their standards for applying are really high i dont think im making it 💔 im just a little guy whose disabled and has a lot of time because of that ///

[prisma zealot]

oh okay bro, all the best to you

[heavy vigil]

ill ask them to add it in the australia dlc

[fair horizon]

casey pls

i cant handle it

no i havent had one for years

[swift violet]

Act very funny when they're alone for some reason

[rotund chasm]

Ive owned 0 cats and have 3 cat scars

Dog gang 4 lyfe

[fair horizon]

owning one makes them leave a huge one on your heart later on :(

[swift violet]

Needa add more animal leaders

Would be peak

[narrow lotus]

I meant I prosuce 89 a day and I have 48 divisions of them with 9 batalions of them each

[swift violet]

Cause I know romanov poland can get a bear iirc

[fair horizon]

probably not enough then

[narrow lotus]

oh ok

I have 150 factories on them bro and I still dont have enough

[fair horizon]

whats their reliability at?

and what kind of tank? lights?

[dry sleet]

Is there a way to mass select ships baes on XP/training level ?

[fair horizon]

double click will select the specific design, so say like 3 sydney mark 3s would be selected if you double click them

but it wont click other versions of the same design

[misty fossil]

Guy? Arent you mtf trans

That doesnt tell us anythin

Show screenshots of your production line, efficiency cap, division template and design

efficiency cap is the most important here

[narrow lotus]

im joking I have 51k stock pile of those tanks with 48 divisions of them

100% efficency

[misty fossil]

wait can i post this here or not

[dry sleet]

Not design type, training level, need to separate ships that need exercising from the rest and it's like 1k ships to sort trought

[fair horizon]

just shift click the fleet and call it a day

[sage isle]

I just played Germany for the first time in awhile. Holy crap what did they do? The UK guaranteed everything in 2 seconds before I even had three focuses done

[fair horizon]

wym?

they will garuentee anyone you justify on

[dry sleet]

depends on world tension

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[dry sleet]

Also can be exploited to drain their PP

[fair horizon]

almost anyone germany justifies on will be guaranteed

i think the dutch have a cheese though?

[sage isle]

They always did that. They guaranteed the entirety of Europe

Somehow the dutch started with it, the baltics, everyone except France had it within 1936

That's not supposed to happen, I've played it before

[dry sleet]

I am pretty sure that outside of scripted event it's physically not possible to guarantee below a certain WT threshold

[sage isle]

Yes 25. They had to have changed something

I couldn't do anything other than start WW2 early, all my normal actions were screwed

[lapis snow]

None of that sounds right

[dry sleet]

you can always justify on random stuff, cancel when they guarantee, rinse and repeat to make their guarantee cost more and more PP

At a certain point they won't be able to guarantee anymore because they can't get enough PP within justification time.
Also drains them of PP as a side benefit

[sage isle]

I did that, they didn't run out😭

[lapis snow]

sounds more like the Rhineland was denied or something

[dry sleet]

Are you sure you don't have mods affecting that?

[sage isle]

It's what happened no joke. All the baltics, plant, Dutch, France, Czech, yugo, Greece, etc

No mods no Rhineland denial

[lapis snow]

That's literally not possible

[sage isle]

Er wait, I kinda autopilot the beginning, what happens if it's denied?

[dry sleet]

You get a wargoal on France IIRC

[sage isle]

Nope didn't get that

[dry sleet]

well either a wargoal or an event with a choice to declare war immediately, can't remember

[wet flicker]

the allies and the benelux have won ww2

[wet flicker]

gg

[cold gazelle]

Y‘all‘s excited for the Czechoslovakia rework?

[swift violet]

I guess

It'll be alr

[cold gazelle]

I mean it’s not a new DLC per say but the whole gist of it seems nice

[swift violet]

I'm just wondering if cheap mediums would be good on garrisons

[cold gazelle]

I’ve been wanting to play Czechoslovakia for a while now but yeah never got around to it

[heavy vigil]

meta

[swift violet]

Oh alr is military police needed?

Or can just the tank template do until I research it

[heavy vigil]

yes

or you have to use like double the equipment or more

[swift violet]

Would you use harsh quotas iirc

Cause you'd get 25% base factories anyways

[heavy vigil]

if u want more factories yes

its eventually better to sit on civ but it takes a while to pay off

[swift violet]

Oh alr

[swift violet]

Interwar chassis work?

[heavy vigil]

why wouldnt it

[swift violet]

Oh just a question mb

[fair horizon]

its the better one too because its cheaper

[wet flicker]

that was such an amazing netherlands run

can you even do a world conquest with a democratic ideology

[heavy vigil]

you can change game rules

otherwise maybe but very other nation dependant

[wet flicker]

its ironman though

[ivory hull]

edit save file if you really wanna continue

[grave sonnet]

Thanks for the money mrbeast

I needed it

[swift violet]

If Czechoslovakia gets the european tree as well I'll be happy

[sudden thistle]

If u mean port garrison yeah

It’s banned in mp for being too strong lol

[tulip thorn]

Stop it, your the one claiming it all

You leave nothing for the rest of us

Im very angry now

[grave sonnet]

Chill bro you gotta wait Kai Cenat does money giveaways you just gotta wait for one amazing person to send the images for the codes

[tulip thorn]

Awesome, cant wait to lose everything for absolutly nothing

[grave sonnet]

True

Mr beast said he would give me money

Weirdly enough I got logged out of my steam account for no reason

Pretty weird

[tulip thorn]

Thats odd

[grave sonnet]

He's probably just logging on to buy me a game or smth

[tulip thorn]

Exactly

He is getting you free games

with dlc included

[grave sonnet]

Can't wait 😍

[heavy vigil]

yooooo

[tulip thorn]

Yo

[heavy vigil]

games where

[tulip thorn]

idk

[heavy vigil]

new dlc soon btw

[tulip thorn]

I know

[heavy vigil]

for hearts of iron IV

the video game

[tulip thorn]

Im hyped

[sudden thistle]

WITH DLC??

That’s a steal!

[tulip thorn]

fr

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

hello casey

i hope the next DLC/expansion for hoi4 adds a couple few or more NEW SPs

[heavy vigil]

the minor dlc is out in a few hours

its for czechoslovakia

[cedar lance]

yes ik

tho i alraedy bought the pass 2

[sudden thistle]

I think an hour

Or I’m blind

[cedar lance]

2 hrs

to be exact

[heavy vigil]

idk

[cedar lance]

bruh

[sudden thistle]

No I lied

[cedar lance]

go check on steam

[sudden thistle]

2 ish

[cedar lance]

and yalls will see 2 hrs

[sudden thistle]

I literally just checked now

[cedar lance]

alr

[sudden thistle]

Mb for not having a dlc release memorized

[heavy vigil]

fake fan

[cedar lance]

np

i wanna see in The Next NEW dlc expansion these SPs:
MBT tanks and MBT chassis
and assault rifles

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

me

[cedar lance]

what

look above

[heavy vigil]

that would be cool ! :D

[cedar lance]

alr

for germany they should add the mkb42 and stg44

and Other infantry techs and equipments

[finite plume]

Weren't Assault rifles only common up until the 1950-1960's?

[cedar lance]

the stg44 was the first TRUE AR

to be mass produced

[finite plume]

Fair

But that's already in the game

[cedar lance]

alr

we need it as a SPECIAL PROJECT

the mkb42 and stg44

[lapis snow]

scripted event where hortler tries to torpedo the whole thing because he doesn't believe in the concept's viability

no thanks

[cedar lance]

what

[misty fossil]

he means occupation garrison

[lapis snow]

Hitler personally disagreed with the engineers on the StG project

[cedar lance]

OH alr

[misty fossil]

why not do heavy tanks for port garrison in that case?

[lapis snow]

they had to call it an SMG to hide the damn thing

on paper

[cedar lance]

alr

then ill add the mkb42 and stg44 as SPs myself

since we can add our own SPs

[lapis snow]

respect the LARP

[cedar lance]

what

[lapis snow]

adding your own SP for role playing...

[heavy vigil]

hii baba

[cedar lance]

OH alr

still

[heavy vigil]

hiiii uni

[cedar lance]

ill add em in

as SPs

i can add in Whatever SPs i want

[misty fossil]

hey casey

im coping rn

hru

[cedar lance]

hello uni

[finite plume]

PDX should add a Firerate stat

[misty fossil]

hey mark

[cedar lance]

wassup

[finite plume]

That basically makes it so units have varied attack tick speeds

For example, artillery would be heavy damage but with longer intervals, while infantry (Assault rifles in this case) has less damage but faster attacks

[cedar lance]

call me either Mrm or just marko

[misty fossil]

sure

[cedar lance]

alr

im gonna add in MBT tank and mbt chassis and ARs As SPs

[lapis snow]

another per-tick calculation for damage on all units in all combats might have some performance impact

[heavy vigil]

tbh itd make sense

inf needs nerfing in hoi

[finite plume]

Fair, but tbh performance nowadays is tossed aside

[heavy vigil]

but like youd have to redo all stats

which is a lot of work

[finite plume]

Check how many mods have On_daily effects and you'll see what I mean

[lapis snow]

It'd make targeting much more interesting

[misty fossil]

but but my human meat tsunami

[lapis snow]

2v1 crits on a high dpt unit might not be a total wash...

[heavy vigil]

make all gun stats get soft attack +1.5 or something maybe idk

instead of double

inf should be pretty pointless but then you also need to nerf tanks etc etc

[lapis snow]

gun1 meta

[heavy vigil]

its just hard

[heavy vigil]

they did that irl mostly

so in that sense i think its ok

[lapis snow]

until like 44, yeah

the inf tech tree just needs work in general to rebalance inf batts

[finite plume]

Infantry designer

🔥

[heavy vigil]

to make hoi4 combat good again youd need to change literally all stats

and make battles simulate a 3d space more

which is just hard

[lapis snow]

trve

[lapis snow]

unironically yes

[finite plume]

Issue is someone will ALWAYS optimize the fun out of the game

[heavy vigil]

im not saying it will happen im just saying

thats the only way to make it better

[finite plume]

And PDX always tends to favor pro players over new ones

[heavy vigil]

optimizing isnt the issue

[lapis snow]

and they're probably German

[finite plume]

Imagine learning HOI4 now with all the different systems

[heavy vigil]

the large stat gap between bad, meta, realistic choices is the issue imo

if the gap between those is smaller its like not as big of a deal to do any or

but the reality is that an experienced player gets like 6K+ attack units while new players struggle to push 100

[finite plume]

"Oh yeah, see, if you wanna win the soviet civil war you actually gotta cheese 5+ mechanics and then set all your units on this very specific province in Chelyabinsk..."

[heavy vigil]

and production too, huge differences

[lapis snow]

true, they actually cater to me and my nearly 5k hours constantly by making my favourite nations stupidly overpowered

[heavy vigil]

me when i lie

most pro hoi4 players have been anti bloat afaik

[finite plume]

Exactly

And every DLC, PDX's first patch is nerfing every buff lmao

[heavy vigil]

?

they literally add so much bloat every update

so many new buffs and buttons

[finite plume]

They did it with Gotterdammerung, they did it with Graveyard, they did it with No Compromise, etc

[finite plume]

So instead of playtesting, they get players hooked on the buffs before cutting them off 🙏

[heavy vigil]

????

what

[finite plume]

Not very motivating for a new player

[finite plume]

It's really not a hard concept to understand

New players see this shiny new update and a lot of green

They play and have fun

[lapis snow]

"Should we recycle a perfectly functional balance of power and mission system from this dlc we did a year ago?"
"Nah"

[heavy vigil]

im literally so confused on what youre saying because there clearly is a lot more bloat still and the "nerfs" are usually insignificant or move them elsewhere

[finite plume]

The next day
"Yeah actually we cut alot of buffs in half"

That player isn't gonna wanna play it anymore because they don't know how worse it'll get

[heavy vigil]

??????????????

im lost

like do you not play the game

[finite plume]

I do?

[lapis snow]

power creep and bloat are not the same thing

[finite plume]

You keep saying bloat as a catch-all phrase

[heavy vigil]

its not the same but theres both powercreep and bloat

[lapis snow]

there is

[finite plume]

Tbf the way PDX organizes paths is horrendous lately

Like having Pakistan go to war with the UK right after a civil war

[violet pawn]

what's a good hoi4 youtuber

which isnt overrated

[lapis snow]

Aldrahill is okay. Doesn't claim to be anything special, plays for variety, is okay at the game

[honest glacier]

thatcollegeguy is the goat

best youtuber

[lapis snow]

college isn't just a hoi4 guy but yeah I like his stuff

[violet pawn]

doesnt he play with bokoen

[lapis snow]

yeah sometimes

Bo is good

[violet pawn]

i've been watching him for a long time

cool vids but they're usually short

[solemn bay]

PLEASE, Paradox

[swift violet]

Chad Czechslovakia mains rise up

[azure kernel]

Czechoslovakia is actually not that bad

[swift violet]

Without the triple entente ur cooked

[violet pawn]

a dlc for a single nation

damn

they could have added yugo or romania

[vital cove]

no lol

[azure kernel]

Pretty much but I believe anyone could defend it against Germany

[vital cove]

if you don't fall for the noob trap that is building forts

Czechoslovakia is strong

[swift violet]

Well yeah you just die to cas

[vital cove]

aa literally exist?

[swift violet]

Need like 80 air attack to completely nullify cas damage

[azure kernel]

Yes. Even the evil guy that led Germany during ww2(i really dont wanna say his name) said that he himself was quite surprised the Czechs chose to fight and they did actually fight hard

[swift violet]

You'll need line aa

Thats ass

Plus support aa ain't enough

[violet pawn]

hitler

[azure kernel]

[swift violet]

One hour bros

[snow rain]

44 to reach the maximum mitigation of 75%

it's hard capped at 75%

[swift violet]

Oh alr

Would ity be 75% of 30% cas damage iykwim

Cause max cas damage is like 30%

[snow rain]

after that you need multiplicatives from other ssources (up to 75% with general traits, 15% with advisor and up to 15% with national spirits (finland and sov)

[heavy vigil]

finland is so strong

[vital cove]

isn't it 55 :susge:

[snow rain]

meaning that, at maximum reduction you could ever have, you'd get around 15% total CAS damage received

[snow rain]

let me find the patchnotes again

yup t's 55, not 44 my bad

since 1.17.4

[violet pawn]

is this rare

[swift violet]

Nah its canon

If the ai takes too long with German civil war

[honest glacier]

dafuq u mean its canon

[cedar lance]

its STARTING

the stream

[violet pawn]

where

[cedar lance]

on yt

their yt channel

[winged remnant]

When does the new dlc release

[cedar lance]

in 1 hr

[winged remnant]

Alr thanks

[cedar lance]

np

[swift violet]

Yup stream on yt rn

[dusky grail]

Here to pay respect to the tree before DLC

[hearty cloud]

how long now?

like half an hour?

[dusky grail]

says an hour

[swift violet]

W

[atomic grove]

12:30 pm in utc+0

[swift violet]

Can form the european union with czechoslovakia

[atomic grove]

basically in 45 minutes

[misty fossil]

67

[dusky grail]

Is that question or a fact? I hope it isnt formable, it should form into greater moravia if anything, maybe HRE.

[hearty cloud]

i think there is a central EU but not like the Belgium one

[limber island]

What time will the DLC be released?

[hearty cloud]

theres a danube one as well,and maybe greater czecia

[hearty cloud]

40 minutes

just about time to finish my movie

[limber island]

Thank you, my friend

[dusky grail]

Danube is name for the current formable if certain goverment type.

[gaunt narwhal]

This new DLC has to be the most garbage update so far

Instead of fixing France and US's focus tree we're making DLCs of a country nobody ever plays

I'v played hoi4 enough years to know that 90% of multiplayer games don't accept Czechoslovakia players so this is just more solo work at this point

[sharp ridge]

hey

[gaunt narwhal]

sup

[sharp ridge]

how are you doing

[gaunt narwhal]

Fine, just ranting on the upcoming DLC that is literally worthless

[sharp ridge]

what is it

[violet pawn]

a yugo dlc or romania dlc would have been fine

but the czechs

[swift violet]

We'll get allies next dw

Well

After this expansion pass

[wide osprey]

another day crying about it

[swift violet]

I think the only two trees that dont need a rework is Poland and Soviets

Besides that

[gaunt narwhal]

another day of being dissapointed

[violet pawn]

they're great

[swift violet]

Every nation before gotterdamrung needs a tree

[gaunt narwhal]

poland has more content than france

[violet pawn]

i dont see why they'd need a reowkr

[swift violet]

DONT

[wide osprey]

maybe no

[gaunt narwhal]

How does paradox not see the need to a france and US rework??

[wide osprey]

how bout that

[open bay]

is france that bad?

[swift violet]

Italy has an okay tree tbh

[open bay]

ik US def needs a rework

[gaunt narwhal]

Its atrocious

[swift violet]

France UK and USA on the otherhand

[open bay]

whit dlc????

[gaunt narwhal]

nobody wants to freaking play france or the uk

[swift violet]

USA needs a nerf

[gaunt narwhal]

yes

[wide osprey]

you must be kidding or something

[gaunt narwhal]

even with DLCS

[swift violet]

You can get rid of depression in 37

[wide osprey]

or it's just wishful thinking

[gaunt narwhal]

france is boring as hell, monarchist paths have nothing exciting about them

[swift violet]

Should be manditory to keep great depression till 39

Gives Japan a chance

[gaunt narwhal]

Example: bonapart path has just war goals

THAT'S IT

That's literally it

just war goals

[hearty cloud]

what do you expect from an old DLC

quality like gutterdumrung?

[gaunt narwhal]

That's literally the point I just made earlier

[edgy pendant]

will hoi4 dlcs have a sale when peace in our time releases

or only peace in our time

[gaunt narwhal]

why are they wasting their energy on czhe like nobody cares???

no offense to any czhe

[hearty cloud]

lots of people care

[gaunt narwhal]

I dare you to play a lobby and go on cze

without getting screamed at by german players

[hearty cloud]

i already do xD

[wide osprey]

"for me"

[hearty cloud]

with germanys permison of course which is 8/10 times

[cedar lance]

we need more research slots for ALL

[hearty cloud]

my server is good

[gaunt narwhal]

OH you are in your own serevr

ok that makes more sense

[hearty cloud]

yea

[gaunt narwhal]

yeah fair enough I guess

[hearty cloud]

even with public lobbies im suprised how often like maybe 4/10 they are fine,up to about 7/10 on alt

[gaunt narwhal]

I literally get screamed at for playing austria

[hearty cloud]

damn really?

you get some ass servers

[gaunt narwhal]

its a 50/50

either the host is completely brain dead

or the entire lobby is full of racist, unadulterated, toxic people

[hearty cloud]

yea i get that alot as well

like there is always one guy who is shit caps at 41 and starts throwing the most shitty insults ever

[gaunt narwhal]

like yesterday I literally had a confederate in my vc

how are these people not banned??

[hearty cloud]

fr

like go play COD of CSGO with that mouth

[gaunt narwhal]

no offense to the discord mods of this server but you guys are not doing your job

[swift violet]

Imma just be honest tho

This dlc looks ass cheeks

ONE nation

[gaunt narwhal]

^^^]

[hearty cloud]

*500 civilian factories is not suicidal

[gaunt narwhal]

and its gonna be overpriced

[swift violet]

Perhaps one of the most irrelevant as well

I got the pass so I'm chill

[gaunt narwhal]

^^^^^^^^

[swift violet]

Regardless

[hearty cloud]

well for some goofy reason i bought the pass so im getting this shit for free

i save a grand total of 1 cent!

[gaunt narwhal]

I just want more content for france man give me shit to do after 1940

[sharp storm]

Only around $5 I think?

[gaunt narwhal]

yeah its already overpriced

[hearty cloud]

i mean if there is a slovak tree and a tuva tree make t 600 at that point

[swift violet]

Vichy France needs a huge tree as well

[hearty cloud]

FR

[swift violet]

Underrated nation

[dusky grail]

Screw US. Crying for OP country with decent content to have more.
You know, people play single player you know.

[gaunt narwhal]

Can I not have an opinion?

[vital cove]

the us has no content and is not op

[sharp storm]

It is OP but it has no content

[swift violet]

US is op just asscheeks for content

[dusky grail]

The easiest and safest country to play. Like what dude.

[vital cove]

not compared to other majors

[swift violet]

USA needs a mega nerf

[vital cove]

it doesn't have potential

[hearty cloud]

lmao i mostlu play SP and i want a better france tree,US tree later england is fine for now and of course the great sPAIN tree

[swift violet]

Depression doesnt end till 39

[dusky grail]

WHAT

[swift violet]

Plus

[gaunt narwhal]

give france more stuff to do

[swift violet]

Production debuffs

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/france-drapeau-francais-法国-gif-351746371917459008

[dusky grail]

Oh no, most countries have their economy running and cant be agressive till 1939 anyway.

[gaunt narwhal]

Lie^

[hearty cloud]

me annexing germany and italy by early 38 as austria

[sharp storm]

We're all arguing about the wrong things, clearly what is needed is for a rework to the New Zealand tree

[dusky grail]

I assume you play only the biggest countries?...

[hearty cloud]

nah bro tanu tuva tree

[gaunt narwhal]

actually I can annex the entirety of the benelux and germany early game if I play my cards right (as france)

[vital cove]

it gets no relevant research bonuses, no production buffs, can't core anything, take 3 years go start going any non historical path, has huge nerfs at start, has bad mios, etc

[gaunt narwhal]

so like it's 50/50

[vital cove]

its really weaker than other majors

[hearty cloud]

i can eat germany as sweden easy mid 38

[vital cove]

sure if you don't know the game

[dusky grail]

Are you comparing it to who?

[vital cove]

you're less likely to die as the US

[gaunt narwhal]

Also I tried maining poland lately

[vital cove]

because you're on another continent

but if you are competent

the us is just worse than any other major

[sharp storm]

If you're losing as any major then I'd be concerned

[hearty cloud]

i love hoi4 people arguing

[swift violet]

Heres a good one

[gaunt narwhal]

Killing the US is easy in solo games ngl

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-x-kong-the-new-empire-straight-yappin-gorilla-me-in-an-argument-bludgoinin-gif-7926819914010597095

[vital cove]

Germany, uk, japan, italy, Soviets

[hearty cloud]

this thread rn

[slender raven]

France bro

[dusky grail]

Doesnt matter, you have huge navy, which only increases.

[swift violet]

Heavies are better than mediums

[dusky grail]

Italy?

Bro

[swift violet]

Muwahahahaha

[hearty cloud]

super light tank trust

[gaunt narwhal]

Oh yeah we're lying now

we're straight up lying

💔

[vital cove]

italy has both rome and eu formables

[fair horizon]

usa is more boring than other majors but not bad by any means

[slender raven]

France is the worst major

[vital cove]

and has greater italy and papal states for compliance

[hearty cloud]

france while sometimes fun is the worse major

[dusky grail]

Kinda proven my point, you are comparing them to fricking germany and UK. Like who can measure to these guys?

[hearty cloud]

lets be honest

[vital cove]

france has the EU

[gaunt narwhal]

LMAO??? NO??

[hearty cloud]

nope

[vital cove]

tho it is annoying that you are dependent on the ai

to form it

[gaunt narwhal]

Are you geniusly trolling

please stop

[hearty cloud]

thats belgium niderland and austria

must be using mods

[slender raven]

Nobody gaf about that bro WHO plays France💔

[sharp storm]

They mean the decision formable you have to be democratic for

[gaunt narwhal]

many people actually

[sharp storm]

Not the focus tree EU

[gaunt narwhal]

who plays czhe though

nobody

[hearty cloud]

oh fairs

[slender raven]

Only French and Belgians

[hearty cloud]

me🥀

[vital cove]

the focus tree eu is terrible

[sharp storm]

I've never played it so idk

[gaunt narwhal]

netherland is better

[vital cove]

the us would unironically be better with default focus tree

im not kidding

[hearty cloud]

netherland has one of the best democratic trees ngl

[vital cove]

all of the us strength

[slender raven]

Democratic is boring

[gaunt narwhal]

free eu

[vital cove]

is purely from starting industry, manpower, and resources

nothing to do with their focus tree

[dusky grail]

Because it has shit focus tree, where you need to understand the game mechanics well to do stuff with.

[vital cove]

focus tree gives nothing

[hearty cloud]

bro has never played netherlands

[slender raven]

I feel like democratic and communist is boring

[slender raven]

I have but I only went fascist

[hearty cloud]

monarchy is fun

democratic is good

communist is ASSSS

[gaunt narwhal]

LIE

[slender raven]

I’ve just been going on TNO lately with the Himmlerite Burgundy and Heydrich’s Germany

[hearty cloud]

commie niderland is ass bro

[gaunt narwhal]

OH

yeah

[hearty cloud]

oh shit

[gaunt narwhal]

ok yeah you got a point its shit

you know what's funny to do in multiplayer?

[hearty cloud]

the stream said ruthinia and slovakia wil get small tree

[gaunt narwhal]

tsarist russia

[hearty cloud]

FRRR

[slender raven]

When Albania

[swift violet]

Ur lying

[sharp storm]

Albania probably has the best potential out of every country without a tree, which is a pretty low bar but oh well

[hearty cloud]

fr im not

[gaunt narwhal]

ah yes countries that are UNPLAYABLE in multiplayer lobbies

[slender raven]

Certainly better than Slovakia bro

[hearty cloud]

i swear he said they will get tree and content

[gaunt narwhal]

holy shit bro paradox

[swift violet]

Stop ragebaiting my guy

[hearty cloud]

says you bro

[sharp storm]

Like what else though?

[slender raven]

Serbian propaganda

[sharp storm]

What other country?

[hearty cloud]

luxembourg

duh

[swift violet]

Thats truthful as well

[gaunt narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-talking-ben-talking-tom-gif-8188696465196440389

[slender raven]

Tannu Tuva

[hearty cloud]

very important nation

[hearty cloud]

THIS

[gaunt narwhal]

HONDURAS FOCUS TREE WHEN?

[dusky grail]

Glad that we agreed that cze dlc was needed and no one was unhinged about it.

[swift violet]

Luxembourg forms benelux

[gaunt narwhal]

PLEASE MAKE THE BANANA REPUBLIC A THING

[hearty cloud]

wait i kow

[swift violet]

Make a moncharist usa I beg

[hearty cloud]

Israel and Palestine DLC for 69 bucks

trust

[slender raven]

Good idea

[wide osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/o0hCQYIxTAM

[hearty cloud]

king washington

as wild as it sounds

[sharp storm]

I mean pretty much all the central america countries were already banana republics by the start of the game

[hearty cloud]

the KKK needs to have content,like you gotta stop them from overthrowing the south

[swift violet]

HOI4 big brain: Make base game cheap > Make it unplayable without dlcs > Overprice the dlcs

[slender raven]

Are they even in the game I don’t think so

[hearty cloud]

thats why i said need content

they were big in the 30s and 40s

[sharp storm]

Calling the base game cheap is generous

[vital cove]

no that's Slovakia

[gaunt narwhal]

HOI4 big brain: Make base game cheap > Make it unplayable without dlcs > make half of the dlcs worthless cause those countries are not played by many and don't need content

[vital cove]

Slovakia can core the entire world

[hearty cloud]

yea but thats boring doing that

[vital cove]

not really

[swift violet]

I got it for £4 no cap

[sharp storm]

One of those like 90% sales?

[slender raven]

But the game doesn’t even mention the H0locaust bro why’d it mention the KKK

[hearty cloud]

fair

[wide osprey]

yall guys need to stop yapping 🙂

[hearty cloud]

got it for 24 aussie dollars

[swift violet]

Pal somehow had an extra key sold it to me very cheap since he didnt need it at all

[vital cove]

Czechoslovakia isn't playable in any multiplayer lobby either lol

[swift violet]

Its communism or ur dead tbf

[hearty cloud]

we need allied occupied siam tree

[sharp storm]

That stuff mainly isn't mentioned to stop it from getting banned in countries, having the KKK wouldn't really incur the same problem although is still going to be iffy

[gaunt narwhal]

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I SAID EARLIER

[slender raven]

Same way that AH doesn’t have a painting if you play from Germany

[gaunt narwhal]

unless you have a server full of friends good freaking luck going that country in multiplayer lobbies

[grave sonnet]

Mine...does?

[sharp storm]

Not just him, but most high ranking nazi leadership

[slender raven]

Idk I saw that from Germany AH was censored

[hearty cloud]

i have a good portrait for mr smilter

[slender raven]

Like it’s only the shadow

[grave sonnet]

I'm Germany yes

[hearty cloud]

its femboy painter

[vital cove]

it just ruins the game to have Czechoslovakia playable lol

if you play in any somewhat historical setting

[hearty cloud]

we do need a super earth tree for Sweden

spread managed democracy!

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-gif-5127111251718073750

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWxFMUik4mQ

[slender raven]

Bermontian Lithuania focus tree

[hearty cloud]

8 minutes gang

i dunna what to do first

[sharp storm]

Maybe it depends where you got your game from? Usually when buying in Germany you won't be able to get access to 'Historical German Portraits', which comes for everyone in countries where Nazi imagery isn't banned

[slender raven]

I just use the mod that has the real German Nazi flag and a nice portrait for AH since the one in the game doesn’t really look that much like him in my opinion

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-25768139

we need a bullet in head version of good ol adolf

for the memes

[slender raven]

You know there’s penguin Adolf

[atomic grove]

managed to complete my sikkim run before the update

[sharp storm]

Each to their own I guess, I don't mind the censored flag although the Götterdämmerung portrait was a downgrade in my opinion

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-democracy-helldivers-2-helldivers-ii-democracy-helldivers-gif-10225928630350865009

[slender raven]

I just want everything to be real and not censored since the flag in HOI4 for Germany is just the war flag not the actual country flag

[hearty cloud]

should be a toggle for real flags tbh

like in ck3 for nudity

[slender raven]

But I don’t get it will seeing a swastika impact your mental stability bro like why censor it

[atomic grove]

paradox would do that if it didnt make investors not want to invest into it

[slender raven]

I know that’s the reason

[sharp storm]

I mean obviously in the base game they couldn't do that due to needing to sell the game in most countries, but if you want to mod the IRL flag in it's fine

[grave sonnet]

True I'm in Bosnia so it's different

[atomic grove]

using the real german reichs flag in a very popular game wouldnt really be a good look to people globally

[slender raven]

Handschar bro

[vital cove]

why do you care

[sharp storm]

The flag they use in HOI4 is probably a better choice then the ones they used in previous HOI games anyways

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[grave sonnet]

Handžar

[slender raven]

Same way I get bothered with seeing Italy instead of Kingdom of Italy bro that’s just me

[hearty cloud]

honestly same

oh no

[open bay]

is the dlc releasing?

[hearty cloud]

THERE HE IS

[grave sonnet]

They should add Handchar legion as a buff for Croatia for compliance and resistance in Bosnian territory

[hearty cloud]

TITO

[sharp storm]

tito my idol ❤️

[slender raven]

Peak

[hearty cloud]

it releases in like 30 sec

[slender raven]

For what

[open bay]

hell yeah

[hearty cloud]

czech rework dlc

[atomic grove]

js wait 2 minutes

[hearty cloud]

if my time zones are right

[sharp storm]

I'm going to sleep now so night y'all

[vital cove]

they just decided to call all countries their default name in the historical playthroughs

[atomic grove]

its now

[grave sonnet]

My great grandfather was in it fun fact

[slender raven]

But if that’s true why not call German Reich just Germany then

[atomic grove]

because it was historically known as the german reich irl

during those times

[slender raven]

Like you either make it the standard names or the actual names

[vital cove]

because it was very distinct from what people called Germany before, while italy wasn't

[atomic grove]

"german reich" doesnt have to be censored

[vital cove]

it was a kingdom before and was kingdom after

[atomic grove]

the real flag has to be though

[slender raven]

Italy is, before it was a kingdom now it’s a republic

[slender raven]

I know I know

[vital cove]

and italy was like

[hearty cloud]

its no released🥀

paradox wtf

[vital cove]

not actually a kingdom for relevant purposes

[hearty cloud]

slackers

[slender raven]

Italy was different states then a kingdom and then a republic

[vital cove]

the king didn't rule

[grave sonnet]

True

[swift violet]

Paradox ducking

[vital cove]

i mean between being a kingdom before Mussolini to after

[slender raven]

Technically it was a kingdom since in 1943 the king deposed the Duce

[swift violet]

Not released yet

[slender raven]

Then yeah he was rescued

[hearty cloud]

it said it would release like now

[slender raven]

I know I just want every detail to be historical that’s just me

[vital cove]

play black ice

hoi4 vanilla is not even a little like historical

no similarities exist

[slender raven]

Bro met Al-Husseini

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[slender raven]

I’ll see

[grave sonnet]

There's an image of Bosnian Handzarists saluting Germans after they came in

Germany got great compliance in Bosnia because they were the only ones trying not to kill us

[slender raven]

I know

[grave sonnet]

There's also images of Bosnians and Germans eating together

[slender raven]

Nobody really killed Bosnians Italians and Croatians didn’t the ones that got killed were Serbians

[grave sonnet]

Serbians Partizans attacked and raided Bosnian villages for loot

And killed ppl

[slender raven]

Well well well

[grave sonnet]

The Handchar was made generally to protect villages

From Communist Partisan attacks

[nocturne garnet]

are there any mp games going on?

[grave sonnet]

But yeah

Would be good to add them as a buff to Croatia

And also add Partizan raid events

That destroy railways

Make it more realistic

[slender raven]

Can’t you already get the Handschar as Germany

I think

[atomic grove]

whens the dlc

[grave sonnet]

No

[atomic grove]

its not out

[slender raven]

Croatia should have a dlc

[atomic grove]

i dont see it

[grave sonnet]

Baza

[grave sonnet]

Minor DLC yes

Not too much

Not too little content

[vital cove]

this literally happens?

just without raids

resistance i occupied territories that destroy railways is a thing

[slender raven]

It’s the 1st Croatian I think

[slender raven]

What

[grave sonnet]

More brutal because partizan would usually go behind lines and destroy more than railways

[grave sonnet]

Baza means based in bosnian

[vital cove]

it also damage factories, infrastructure, and kill garrisons?

[grave sonnet]

Also core defence nerf

[slender raven]

Same in Italy bro

After 1943

[grave sonnet]

Because Croatians were great at offensive operations

But so bad at defence onces

Battle of Odžak is an example

[grave sonnet]

Yeah I mean smart tactic

[grave sonnet]

Yeah Italy was an interesting case

Italians had good special forces

I'm talking about the social republic btw

[slender raven]

Too many partisans

[grave sonnet]

The thing about the Partizans they may be not as equipped and if they are equipped they don't have good equipment

But there are so much of them

That is the main problem

[hearty cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-game-gif-23094205

paradox slacking with times

[grave sonnet]

Ts better be golden

[hearty cloud]

fr

nearly midnight for me

[open bay]

they want people to look at the stream

that is prob why

[grave sonnet]

For me it's 3pm almost

[hearty cloud]

zt the end of their stream ):

https://tenor.com/view/far-cry-release-me-joseph-seed-gif-12887358985963630884

[open bay]

they just said that

[grave sonnet]

His diet was horrible

[open bay]

literally predicted it

[grave sonnet]

That shit was diabolical

[open bay]

https://www.youtube.com/live/NpfpK98DJC0?si=XrM-huj6J8Q76fqS

[slender raven]

I know I think he ate garlic

[open bay]

(in case anyone is curious)

[grave sonnet]

Like bro when I heard garlic I was thinking bout some garlic pasta or smth

[slender raven]

And something like that idk much but about as bad as Adolf’s honestly

[grave sonnet]

Not raw garlic

[grave sonnet]

He was vegetarian

He loved animals so much that people that mistreated animals would end up in camps

[slender raven]

I know that

[slender raven]

Yeah I think he ate mostly sweet stuff and only drank water or juice

[grave sonnet]

I dislike sweet stuff

[cold gazelle]

y'all's what time will the new country pack release

[grave sonnet]

I mostly like savory

Sweet is good but eh

[grave sonnet]

No clue

Watch them postpone it

That would be so funny

[cold gazelle]

if we're going to look at the past most likely 5 - 6 PM central european time

[atomic grove]

i heard it was 20 minutes ago

[grave sonnet]

Prolly

[trim tinsel]

Is dlc out

[trim tinsel]

So today

[cold gazelle]

yeah probably in the next couple hours

[slender raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/858021778559074364/1440055045574889672/togif.gif

[sudden thistle]

I think like 7 minutes

[tired tendon]

at what hour is Peace for our time releasing? and is there gonna be a sale alongside it?

[cold gazelle]

maybe

[cold gazelle]

it's releasing soon, the other thing I don't know the answer to

[median forum]

With it being under an hour id assume theyd release it on the hour

[fair horizon]

Cant wait for peace for our time to release so i can continue to not play czechoslovokia

[tired tendon]

i cant wait for the sale so i can buy ultimate bundle

and my friend buyihg the game too

[median forum]

i just want the dlc to release so I can only buy that and not the stupid £40 rubbish

[trim tinsel]

How much is it gona cost

[median forum]

$5.99 for the Czech tree

[trim tinsel]

Not bad

[open bay]

its out

[gritty kernel]

Is the patch out?

[trim tinsel]

Finally

[ember vine]

How's it going with the CS gameplay?

[honest glacier]

theres no patch

[ember vine]

Is the DLC good

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-maguire-that-was-today-they-stole-it-from-me-pawn-sacrifice-they-took-it-gif-23155880

MY AUSTRALIA DLC SPOT

[ember vine]

Guys tell me your opinion on the Czech DLC

Now

[open bay]

nvm its out only to buy individualy?

cant see it on the dlc page

[fair horizon]

peace for our time

[unique latch]

super bad

[fair horizon]

havent played it or even interacted with it

hate it

[ember vine]

I just bought it

[unique latch]

yea it should have been 1 dollar

[heavy vigil]

hi v

[ember vine]

HIV

[unique latch]

havent played it yet but i just know its bad def trust 100% valid opinion

[fair horizon]

casey im big anger at czech players

they know what they did

[heavy vigil]

im going through a herculian task rn leave your hate for later

[cold gazelle]

it's out

[fair horizon]

go on

[heavy vigil]

no drama in chat until im done

[honest glacier]

patriotic czechs living in a berlin apartment can finally achieve happiness

[fair horizon]

fine ill save my rant for later

[atomic grove]

wheres the dlc

[heavy vigil]

have you checked your back pockets

[lost dawn]

I turned France into a relatively decent place to be.

By moving it to Germany....

[sturdy quest]

New dlc yay

[lost dawn]

I can make much better use of French lands

[tired tendon]

helll nah

no sale qwq

[rigid stream]

when i start hoi4 although i have the dlc, it isnt loaded, why?

[fair horizon]

verify and restart steam

[rigid stream]

thanks, ill try

[fervent badger]

probably the worst part of it

MORE waiting for the goddamn sale

[tired tendon]

yeah

[mystic sand]

Piss in our time out, time to pay 10 bucks for a mod 💔

[fervent badger]

anyways i didnt expect the new dlc to be like

6$

[tired tendon]

i wont buy anything till the new sale

[hollow ravine]

hello people

[limpid zenith]

uh

[tired tendon]

i just want the damn dlcs

but not for 100 bucks

[hollow ravine]

chat i just bought a new laptop and dowmloaded hoi4. now what

[tired tendon]

well 125

[fervent badger]

play the game

[tired tendon]

launch it ig

[fervent badger]

dlcs should be already installed

[rigid stream]

this worked, thanks

[fervent badger]

install mods if you had them

[hollow ravine]

i suck a$$. i just loaded it and immeditaly faltered to austria as hungary

[fervent badger]

probably should play germany first

[hollow ravine]

welp

time to buy gottendarbun or whatevr

[fervent badger]

i think thats the best starting country for new people

[fervent badger]

Gotterdammerung

i think

[hollow ravine]

ok ill try brb

[violet pawn]

yo is this good, the width (ill add the companies dw)

[atomic grove]

i have expp2 and i still dont have czech dlc

[hollow ravine]

anyone wanna call and aid me in my adventure to h#ll

[fervent badger]

no paradox sale

=

ANGRY

cat

😾

[atomic grove]

nevermind

[cedar lance]

Shush rn cato

what

[violet pawn]

?

[ivory hull]

you want 36w

[violet pawn]

r u sure that they'll work in mountains

i can stack more with 24

[ivory hull]

if you wanna focus solely on mountains then 24 would be better but for general use 36 is better

[cedar lance]

cant wait for the 2 other Dlcs for hoi4
the seaplane tenders and TAOG

[violet pawn]

aight

should i add more marines then

like balance it out

[tired tendon]

you have too much responsibility on you i think

the entire world fate relies on u

better to go minor axis power like italy, hungary or romania

[sly venture]

how much is the new dlc

[violet pawn]

wtf

[cedar lance]

6 euros or 6 usd

[dusty hare]

Is the new dlc good

[cedar lance]

idk

buy it

and test out

[dusty hare]

Does it come with the subscription too?

[cedar lance]

idk

[sly venture]

I wanna buy it but am not home rn

[lavish scarab]

nah

[hollow ravine]

200 divs

[violet pawn]

spam divs

[hearty cloud]

monarchy czech is cursed

texas flag is unreal

[hollow ravine]

i played as hungary and romanai rejected all my translyvanian proposals so then i declared but they were in the axis : o

[rustic sinew]

in how long is dlc out?

[hollow ravine]

guys hoi4 is way shitter than it looks in the videos

[rustic sinew]

wdym?

[forest osprey]

How

[hollow ravine]

it sucks

[tired tendon]

its a hard game

not for people who ragequit easily

[hollow ravine]

so i might uninstal

[hollow ravine]

-sun tzu

[tired tendon]

watch some tutorials

its kinda complciated

[hollow ravine]

i have

im gonna quit hoi4 now

[forest osprey]

Just play on civilian until you win a couple of times and then move up a difficulty

That's what I did

And just repeat

[tired tendon]

yeah take a break, i also ragequited a few times lol

[forest osprey]

I've never actually ragequitted but I have raged before

Like 1 time I was playing germany with historical off and as I was doing the anschluss hungary annexed Austria for Austria hungary

Then I was going to go to war with the Czechs and they annexed them too before my justification finished

[rustic sinew]

hoi4 seemed kinda easy to get to, to me, mostly because i started with hoi3

[hollow ravine]

what else do i do on a laptop

: /

https://tenor.com/view/brain-hurts-gif-12096381820083648834

[tired tendon]

watch tutorials so you do better next time

[ripe slate]

It is already out :)

[maiden bolt]

why do i have a deep voice since i got a sore throat

💔

[hollow ravine]

i already watched like 12

[hollow ravine]

u got a deep voice?

[tired tendon]

also play countries that dont get killed

[tulip thorn]

Cant wait to play it

[hollow ravine]

like luxembourg

[tulip thorn]

Looks great

[tired tendon]

and play on histroical so the game doesnt murder you randomly

[forest osprey]

Like canada

[tired tendon]

what?

[maiden bolt]

nah

play as USA

or Canada

[hollow ravine]

same pfp

[tired tendon]

it literally gets bonked by germany right after war with poland finishes

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/twins-twinsies-man-spiderman-spider-gif-12746886

[tired tendon]

usa is so strong that you can do anything and win

[hollow ravine]

spam forts?

[tired tendon]

your 3 divisions cant kill 70 lol

its the hardest country in the game

poland's easier

[sudden thistle]

That’s how videos work

[misty fossil]

hey ngl goe is kinda cheap

[tired tendon]

the best countries for beginners are peru, hungary, italy and canada

[misty fossil]

its only like

[hollow ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-no-michael-scott-no-erm-no-no-no-no-unenthused-gif-12861853330612023810

[misty fossil]

11usd

[misty fossil]

italy??

[hollow ravine]

do u wan get fina slimed fam

[tired tendon]

its the ltieral tutorial nation lol

[hollow ravine]

ima play war of dots instead

[tacit citrus]

its only 6$?

well ok

[tired tendon]

also play tutorial next time

[forest osprey]

You need a dlc for peru though right?

[tired tendon]

when you come back

[rustic sinew]

oh damn i didnt notice, i thought ti would be afternoun like usual

[tacit citrus]

damn I shit on the dlc before the price released it doesnt seem that bad

[hollow ravine]

boobi

[tired tendon]

you want to have the generic focus tree

[misty fossil]

its not easy at all..

[tired tendon]

youre the only fascist country in south america meaning you can attack freely anyone else

[forest osprey]

I'd rather pay than play with mods

[tired tendon]

and become ussa

[misty fossil]

i got to play italy in my very first game and i tried it FIVE times and FAILED every SINGLe time

[rustic sinew]

i have no idea how the pass costed 50 euros, like where is the value

[sudden thistle]

France in the 1939 scenario is very fun for starting

[tired tendon]

dont you die right off the bat?

[turbid nacelle]

do you guys think its worth buying dlc peace for our time?

[forest osprey]

My northern ireland run wasn't particularly fun

[sudden thistle]

Yeah

[forest osprey]

The amount of industry in abysmal

[sudden thistle]

But if u play it a few dozen times

[misty fossil]

does ncns give you a new doctrine system??

[tired tendon]

the missions are easy af

[sudden thistle]

U die slower and slower

[forest osprey]

There's like 3 factories in total

[misty fossil]

how does base game doctrine look like

[misty fossil]

im talking about ethiopia

[tired tendon]

kekw

[misty fossil]

just yesterday i saw a guy who capped ethiopia in 1939

[tired tendon]

ethiopia is very easy tbh

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1017125291027595384/1358688847990489108/togif.gif

[tired tendon]

what?

[misty fossil]

idk

its in this very chat

go find it or something

[tired tendon]

dude i capped it in april 😭

[misty fossil]

/shu

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tired tendon]

at my first attempt