hoi4-general

[craggy trail]

@tulip thorn So far, I've united the Equestrian South-East and formed a native federation, helped Celestia defeat Nightmare Moon, joined a faction with the Southern Confederacy and Las Pegasus Commune, and now we're going to ally with Equestria against the Changelings. Aztlan does have another path if Equestria forms the Solar Empire under Daybreaker or does not exist.

[icy egret]

Changeling Lands forever

[craggy trail]

Funny thing is I still get to keep the bonuses I received from the Confederates even though I leave their faction for Equestria

[icy egret]

Btw I will not open these pics cause spoilers

[craggy trail]

Yeah. Those are major spoilers

[icy egret]

Fortunately my eyesight sucks and I am using my phone

[harsh nest]

whats the meta for mp tanks

meds, heavy, TD, spg?

[young lake]

Bro WHERE is the pride of the fleet 😭

They hiding from me ong

Half the British navy sunk in 2 weeks, but still no Pride of the fleet 😔

[woven gate]

probably in port

port strike maybe

[plucky turtle]

Guysssssssssss

I just witnissed the most unpredictable thing in hoi4 ever

[young lake]

?

[plucky turtle]

Did you ever expect to put onyour headsets after long afk just to hear hoi4 version of despacito playing

Like i thought some other app was playing in the background

Btw i am using road to 56 but instead of the classic rt56 theme i never expected to hear musical hoi4 despacito

BUT I Like it DAMN !!!!!!!!!

I never knew despacito was in hoi4 or any mods music pack

[young lake]

These bums

[plucky turtle]

WAIT it is the april fools event

I didnt know that

that is so damn cool

[fair horizon]

Y so mean to Nightmare Moon

[young lake]

For my first Japanese game, I'm pretty happy :3

[craggy trail]

My whole laptop kinda crashed after quite a while

[young lake]

FINALLY no longer in war

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/derpy-derpy-hooves-mlp-my-little-pony-clap-gif-15401120

[thick vector]

How can my troops get to the beach because the troops on the beach are very strong?

[woeful knoll]

marines

dont naval invade

etc

[woeful knoll]

u still need to take out usa

[young lake]

Shhh

That will lwk take like 10 seconds

😭

[woeful knoll]

do it

[young lake]

Nah.

Its 3am 😭

Im going to slep

[woeful knoll]

Use the secret magic

[young lake]

As I gotta get up early

[woeful knoll]

Its called ~occupationpaint usa

[nocturne cedar]

good trade, folks?

[woven gate]

the US and Argentina

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[craggy trail]

Looks pretty good

[obtuse crest]

ANY ONE WHO SOLVES ME THIS PROBLEM WILL GET 5 EURO

I CANT JOIN THE GAME IT SAYS CONNECTING

[fair horizon]

Is fine, surprised you lost any destroyers

EAW navy is weird though

[fair horizon]

Karma

[violet copper]

Can someone help me

I’m new

And

It’s legit miserable to play this game

Idk how it works and the tutorial is ass

And I tried to play as Greece and got demolished by Bulgaria despite having 19 divisions when they had at max 13

[silk fern]

best starter tip i can give you is to not play as greece

[violet copper]

I was told to start with a small country

But all the other small countries didn’t have actual specific paths

[gritty tundra]

free 15% manpower

[nocturne cedar]

Changelings started in 02 of december of 1011, now look at em!

[violet copper]

And for someone reason the axis power was so weak that when I tried to join it Germany wasn’t the leader

[gritty tundra]

greece is underrated with its economy

[nocturne cedar]

werent you in the EaW server

[violet copper]

I hate that game. I had gotten to like 1015 without the changelings touching me and the moment I went to war with them they beat the crap out of me and I lost all my land.

[nocturne cedar]

in what difficulty

also

[violet copper]

Yea. And I got banned for calling it My LARPing Pony OC’s at war

[nocturne cedar]

lvl 4 forts in EaW are pretty much a wall the AI wont budge at all

[violet copper]

Normal

[violet copper]

I had max level forts surrounding the crystal empire. They took it in less than a month

[nocturne cedar]

how many hours

template

[violet copper]

Wdym

I don’t have any saves cuz I played it on Ironman mode cuz I thought that was just the normal mode

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-akakichi-no-eleven-gif-6695986364367126664

[nocturne cedar]

are you kidding me

ironman is fine on vanilla

but dont use it on mods

i used it

its hell

[violet copper]

I told the mods that Equestria seemed really underpowered and they told me “you should play one of the OCs instead”

Why the hell would I play a MLP mod to play as a Polar Bear???

[nocturne cedar]

eh theres like, some mods that rework equestria but most are all WIP, and the Equestria rework will come out eventually i suppose

[nocturne cedar]

i mean, people have tastes and alls but i suppose you're more of lore accurate stuff so i wont judge you

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-pirates-surprise-mlp-movie-gif-9214631

[violet copper]

Lore is out the window in EaW

Places they literally walk to are now an ocean away

[nocturne cedar]

eh, i disagree

its a mix if anything

[craggy trail]

The most recent pony rework is the breakaway Aztlan Provisional Government

[nocturne cedar]

it doesnt need to be 100% true to the lore i guess

[violet copper]

But I’m banned from EaW discord so

Oh well

[frosty juniper]

I BEAT JAPAN

AS COMMUNIST CHINA

[violet copper]

They also got mad at me for saying princess Molestia should be a April fools character

[frosty juniper]

THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR SUCCESS IVE HAD IN 450 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY

[nocturne cedar]

hmmmmmmm i love line cruiser spam i love it so much

light*

[violet copper]

HOI4 has you play as multiple genociding countries. But MLP molester jokes??? That’s where we draw the line

[violet copper]

Does it really take that long to get good…

[craggy trail]

It's light work

[nocturne cedar]

wdym

its good

[frosty juniper]

I JUST SUCK BUT IT DOESNT MATTER

[nocturne cedar]

it destroyed the changeling navy

in 5 battles

[violet copper]

Why are changeling’s so powerful anyways?

[craggy trail]

In the teasers, there will be a major rebalance to navy and a bunch of other things for Equestria at War

[violet copper]

What’s the lore of EaW?

Like what’s the lore reason why Celestia can’t just throw the sun at the changelings?

[nocturne cedar]

"my queen what shall we do? we are losing in all front, ze ponies are too strong"
"send every damn changeling to the front, right now y'hear?"

[craggy trail]

Equestria at War can be said like an alternate world of EaW

[nocturne cedar]

truth is, the deer always wins

[upbeat tundra]

thats not hard...

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-adventure-time-wtf-gross-gif-4078214771703992843

[violet copper]

Why are dragons and actual gods not able to deal with a bug problem without millions of casualties, lore wise?

[stone onyx]

you never went down solar empire?

[upbeat tundra]

a game i did today

[craggy trail]

Olenia and Hindia can be pretty strong sometimes

[frosty juniper]

way to rain on my parade man

[nocturne cedar]

chrysalis spent a good chunk of the changeling industrial power to mass produce tanks because they hate the equestrians after the canterlot wedding

[upbeat tundra]

it rlly isnt that hard...

but good job

[nocturne cedar]

she (or her hi com idk) came up with a plan to rule equus

[violet copper]

Why doesn’t Celestia just melt their tanks

Also why isn’t Luna the head of the S.M.I.L.E department??

[craggy trail]

Changeling lands is like the second most industrial nation behind Stalliongrad

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-man-michael-che-saturday-night-live-have-no-idea-dont-ask-me-gif-21183213

[violet copper]

She literally spies on people in their dreams

[nocturne cedar]

i've defeated the changelings as olenia 10+ times

[upbeat tundra]

does stalliongrad have a leader called horseph stallion

[nocturne cedar]

they had a guy named iron hoof i suppose

[violet copper]

Apparently as Equestria you’re supposed to be nice to Stalliongrad and not go to war with them

[upbeat tundra]

stalin grad

[craggy trail]

Steel Stallion is basically like Lenin of the mod. He dies and Stalliongrad is named after him

[nocturne cedar]

no?

[upbeat tundra]

oh wow i was joking lol

crazy

[nocturne cedar]

you can treat em like shit and they will prob join you in the great war

[violet copper]

Uhm

Well

I went to war with the stalliongrad backed Junta

And then Stalliongrad went to war with me

And then stalliongrad got demolished

So like

I didn’t you weren’t supposed to conquest Stalliongrad.

[nocturne cedar]

why

why would you even side with the junta

they side with the changelings

all the time

[violet copper]

Cuz I thought I could prevent the changeling invasion

It was like 1013

[upbeat tundra]

why is it that every non hist game i play its either

german military junta resulting in zentrum
soviet civil war
japan youth officer coup

[violet copper]

Also

I wanted our town

[nocturne cedar]

thats just more coasts to defend

[violet copper]

And damnit I got our town

[violet copper]

This was my war with the changelings

[nocturne cedar]

oof

[violet copper]

I also didn’t know how to get more divisions. So I had like 15 divisions

[nocturne cedar]

why did you give them

the coast

[nocturne cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/metro-game-2039-metro-2039-videogame-gif-8443916504196801406

i reckon you blamed EaW for you losing

try again, i can help you

[honest glacier]

people who play equestria at war are definitely furries and pedophiles

[nocturne cedar]

its not hard at all

[violet copper]

No. I just said Equestria was lame to play

[nocturne cedar]

no

how do you even come up with that conclusion

[terse skiff]

look man if you play hoi4 you're a nz femboy

[honest glacier]

some people cant handle the truth nuke

[silver relic]

Why can’t I just be a virgin ?

[nocturne cedar]

we are virgins

everyone who plays hoi4 wont ever find a gf

(besides the goat bittersteel)

[silver relic]

Yeah but I don’t gotta be gay and a Nazi and a femboy

[violet copper]

Luna and Celestia are lame queens and don’t do much. Equestria for some reason doesn’t have many ponies living in it. To where when I had Stalliongrad and Our Town under my control I still only could get like 17 divisions

[violet copper]

I’m a girl

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HFnyIOqWcAAnFx-.webp

[silver relic]

No I meant me

[violet copper]

https://tenor.com/view/my-little-pony-mlp-pinkie-pie-dance-dancing-gif-1906554948436720420

[nocturne cedar]

sad that discord doesnt have any paths (even on april fools) i think it'd be dope

[silver relic]

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-neco-arc-fate-cat-gif-1748062773671823114

[honest glacier]

only “girls” i know who play hoi4 are hairy trans people

[silver relic]

Hoi4 saves lives

Not relationships

[nocturne cedar]

@violet copper what other mods do you play?

[craggy trail]

Yeah. That's typical for historical Equestria and Stalliongrad

Unless one of the sisters become corrupted and either forms the Solar or Lunar Empire

[violet copper]

I’m new

I tried millennium dawn

And

It was boring

[nocturne cedar]

oof

[violet copper]

Same with the fire rises

[nocturne cedar]

try OWB

i think you'd like-

[violet copper]

How do you have a mod centered around him where he has the least amount of content???

[nocturne cedar]

ice cream man going insane

[normal trellis]

Is there really any way to win the Dutch Trade thing as Germany?

[nocturne cedar]

yeah

[normal trellis]

Please tell me

I'm desperate

[nocturne cedar]

its useless honestly

you just

spam it in 38

and spam it occasionaly after

[upbeat tundra]

wait do the casualties in EAW get turned into horsemeat for rations

[normal trellis]

Alr, thanks

[violet copper]

All those paths seem so boring

What if boring guy that is only known for failure was actually sick and twisted

[misty fossil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNGvj0QyV7g

[misty fossil]

its useless

[nocturne cedar]

oh yeahhhhh the changelings are dead

[misty fossil]

dont ever waste pp on that

[craggy trail]

Have you done the Polar Bears yet?

[nocturne cedar]

yeah

theyre good but i havent tried the changeling path

i think it'd be better if when the changelings cap in the great war, the PLB and it's puppets dont die with it

[violet copper]

So like

[nocturne cedar]

it'd be cool some sort of a "last stand" yk

[violet copper]

Is Greece like really hard or smth

I literally felt like it was harder than when I tried to play as Our Town

Why the hell did I start with only 2 factories??

[nocturne cedar]

you need rng

[nocturne cedar]

because its a small city?

[violet copper]

So how am I supposed to take over Bulgaria?

I literally couldn’t get better guns because I constantly didn’t have enough supplies or a factory to make them in

[nocturne cedar]

like ive said

RNG

you're better off playing turkey than greece

[craggy trail]

You can still pull off defeating Stalliongrad as Our Town, but it is very very difficult

[nocturne cedar]

anyone wants to try out the changelings and try to win?

also what do you all think of my very short reverse blitz of 11 months

[violet copper]

I was told to start by playing as a small nation

[violet copper]

We’re talking about Greece. :p

[nocturne cedar]

play HUNGARY|!

[nocturne cedar]

what in the goddamn

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-the-problem-benny-fallout-new-vegas-gif-12761699

[violet copper]

I wish HOI4 had a good tutorial

💔

[nocturne cedar]

watch bittersteel

thats your tutorial

[craggy trail]

Bittersteel's germany guide I can say is a good tutorial

[violet copper]

https://tenor.com/view/real-funny-my-primary-function-is-failure-gif-15248417

[nocturne cedar]

no, she has to learn through that 5 tile italy

[craggy trail]

Switzerland

[misty fossil]

What mod is this

[craggy trail]

I don't exactly remember

[nocturne cedar]

no it was italy with 3 tiles

[misty fossil]

Duh

[silver relic]

Hoi4 needs to add the those who know emoji even the Evangelion server has it ;

https://tenor.com/view/brainrot-cringe-dont-editing-know-gif-650398401862444339

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-cat-cat-meme-those-who-gif-2719346752565069035

[silver relic]

Those who are aware of the situation at hand ☠️

[golden stone]

when i try to rename divisions on hoi4, it doesn't allow me to delete the old template name

is this a known / common glitch?

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/benny-7

[frosty juniper]

BRO WHAT DID THEY DO

[violet copper]

Is it better to play with historical ai on or off?

[upbeat tundra]

i have a feeling u did add wt leb

add wt 260 leb

[frosty juniper]

this is ironman mode

idk how to prove it

but if i can i will

[upbeat tundra]

take an ss of ur frontline

and save

[upbeat tundra]

makes enough sence

my bet is lebanese republic got pulled into a war with everyone when an alliance delcared on them

then called in everyone

[nocturne cedar]

on

[frosty juniper]

they are a reichprotectorate of vichy france

[upbeat tundra]

that kinda makes sence

did germany capitulkate?

[frosty juniper]

no

[upbeat tundra]

then HOW

[frosty juniper]

idk bro 💀

[nocturne cedar]

@violet copper finally...

[frosty juniper]

bro i think you're bugged youre a few hundred years behind normal

[violet copper]

I played with it off

Which prob explained why going the axis route didn’t work well

Germany literally wasn’t the leader of the axis somehow

[misty fossil]

does he know?

[tulip thorn]

Hello

[vital dock]

hello

[tulip thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twilight-hello-my-little-pony-gif-8820966

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

again world ablaze crashed my game

[misty fossil]

goodbye

[misty fossil]

pc ablaze

[craggy trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-wave-starlight-glimmer-my-little-pony-gif-15897868

[tepid zinc]

I think I downloaded the wrong fnaf

but idk

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/a-gem-benjammins-chud-door-door-cam-gif-7224643390232569308

in night 3 you have to play against sheep ai

[tepid zinc]

Stalin's finna purge me

[misty fossil]

night 4 its black ice

[steep rampart]

Got the benjammins bootleg meme

[misty fossil]

meh i cant be bothered

you have the other one?

[steep rampart]

Only on TikTok

I don’t know how to transfer gifs

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/gem-alarm-gem-alert-ring-ring-doorbell-chud-gif-1353273367591808784

found it

goddamn this guy really clowned on himself

hes everywhere now

[steep rampart]

Isn’t he like insane or something medically

[misty fossil]

i dont know

i mean im getting fight or flight response just watching the footage but its also so funny

if i ever have to face people like him pray that im not armed

[steep rampart]

I know a guy who looks just like him, we called him fingers, I’ll let you guess why

[misty fossil]

i dont want to guess why

keep it to yourself

[steep rampart]

Fingers + his own smth

[misty fossil]

oh hell no

delete that before you get muted

[steep rampart]

And sent it to a 7th grader when he was in grade 10

[misty fossil]

ok yeah delete that

😭

[steep rampart]

He had a strange family, his mom named him odin

[misty fossil]

i read on that guy and this article didnt make any mention of that

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/disturbing-new-details-emerge-as-creep-seen-in-viral-video-breaking-into-home-appears-in-court/news-story/9f133111bee74395f90f4c0688a4c851

[lucid dagger]

Can i not post gifs

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-micromanage-gif-20717885

I can

This is a elite server

[steep rampart]

I must’ve read it on a comment and not a post cause I saw smth about it on an Australian news channel on TikTok

[misty fossil]

odd

shrug

[steep rampart]

I bet he’s a big fan of arc raiders

[upbeat tundra]

i read that tag as xenu

[misty fossil]

xenu

[faint fiber]

ok this is stupid, how would Britian get revolution from staying out of the great war? that makes no historical sense

[mystic nest]

What mod is this? I've been trying out some WW1 mods but none have really interested me so far

[faint fiber]

Great war redux

With anime mods, because anime

[upbeat tundra]

what is stupider is how the first lord of the admiralty is an anime figure, when irl he wasnt

[faint fiber]

ok first of all don't touch my anime, and second of all that didn't answer the question. was the UK really that politcally fregile in 1914?

[upbeat tundra]

i mean if u wanna complain about no historical sence

then

the first lord of the admiralty being an anime figure wouldnt be historical now would it?

[faint fiber]

I know its just a game but its always bothered me

[upbeat tundra]

i get ur point lol i mean the poland germany alignment path is also bull

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[south mountain]

Why do you want a historical simulation?

I would rather have these paths instead being forced to play 100% historically accurate.

[south mountain]

Look at Germany's focus tree in that mod and you'll realize you have to play almost 100% historically accurate.

[terse skiff]

@heavy vigil how tf did i only realize today that the forts quest gives you +20% mil construction speed for 1 year?

[upbeat tundra]

i play the great war regular

[prisma steppe]

didnt GWR get fucced by some controversy?

[south mountain]

Isn't it "The Great War Redux" mod?

[prisma steppe]

i think he means the non redux version

[south mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4an13ppH4Bs&t=449s I found this video about the Great War Redux.

[prisma steppe]

game about trench-warfare hell, ends up in development hell, how ironic

[south mountain]

Lwk removing alt-history focus paths in the game is a really bad thing to do. I like kaiserreich since it lets you multiple paths while being somewhat realistic

I think Kaiserreich Redux is for focus trees that wouldn't make sense in the base game.

[prisma steppe]

redux is rebirth yes? so it can still die like the old title?

i mean they could rebrand if they want a mod that doesnt die

(shizomaxxin)

[south mountain]

Lwk the mods I am playing with are: RT56, Kaiserreich and BICE.

[misty fossil]

average tgwr game

whos the lead dev whos being a douchebag

[winter fulcrum]

anyone got good tips for invading the british as germany?

[prisma steppe]

eaw is peak too if you only focus on the actual gameplay part not the theme

like it lags a lot less, it has lowkey fun foci, and long long content for some trees

and normally the tech is also quite nice

& & &

[misty fossil]

annex eng

[winter fulcrum]

no but like fr tho

bc im bad at navy

[misty fossil]

i 100% suggest you dedicate a separate playthrough to learn navy

you should treat it the same as learning economy and land armies

dont see it as some irrelevant speed bump

for your game just build heavy fighters with 2 light mgs and 2 torpedo 3s and naval strike in english channel

and spam improved/advanced light cruisers with 4 light cruiser batteries, 2 anti air, 1 dual purpose and 1 torpedo as well as best fire control, radar, engine and armour

(get the best modules)

@winter fulcrum

but you need another game to learn navy

play the us for that

this is the typa stuff you get once you learnt navy

[light goblet]

what the hell does puppeting liberia even do

[misty fossil]

puppets liberia

read the tooltip

[light goblet]

🧐

i meant what value does it provide

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guys-two-black-guys-apple-apple-laptop-gif-3090298217787114336

[fair horizon]

EAW PEAKKKKKKK

[misty fossil]

eaw is peak

[tulip thorn]

So true

[misty fossil]

especially katzenreich

[fair horizon]

Chrysalis best leader btw

[tulip thorn]

Holy soft attack

[tulip thorn]

Simply not true, Celestia solo's

[fair horizon]

Wrong

[misty fossil]

would 4 heavy TDs and 4 heavy SPGs do more soft and hard attack and have more piercing than 8 heavy tanks?

at the cost of lower breakthrough ofc

[fair horizon]

Celestia isnt even as good as her sister

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1050625080461369397/1342387221839220757/attachment-18.gif

vendrip slander

[fair horizon]

Dont make me slander vnr with the truth again

[misty fossil]

im immune to your vnr slander

and missiles are peak

imagine missing your gunshots

@fair horizon 🤮

consider not missing

[fair horizon]

dont even need to worry about that

I know how to navy

[light goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/jibjab-george-w-bush-john-kerry-bury-that-old-hatchet-gif-6574102694078645686

[tulip thorn]

Luna is cool and all, but celestia is just better

Daybreaker is also better

[fair horizon]

Nuh uh

Nightmare moon better

[tulip thorn]

False

[lilac ginkgo]

its gg

palestine takes overm the world

soon

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[lilac ginkgo]

it just did

[terse skiff]

Yeah and breakthrough doesn't matter

[heavy vigil]

not more soft

[terse skiff]

Ok breakthrough doesn't matter if atk is high enough

[heavy vigil]

also good early morning

[misty fossil]

i mean

weird

what if you take something like self propelled support

and whatever tank subdoctrine instead of breakthrough

what subdoctrines give you breakthrough tactic beside armour spearhead

[light goblet]

🧐 how the HELL do you win battles in this game

i just make my divs stand there until enemy org is low enough

[heavy vigil]

with units

[light goblet]

fantastic i understand now

[heavy vigil]

https://youtu.be/1IIjk4bAh68

[light goblet]

wow its 5 minutes only 👀

[rich gulch]

I have a genuine question

How do I “win” in Hoi4

Does it differ between different countries

[light goblet]

🧐

i dont know i consider completing the political focus path for the country to be a win

[wide osprey]

playing luxemburg has never been so easy...

[storm escarp]

What was he thinking

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/fnf-fnf-bf-pointing-meme-gif-17548946998448162692

[light goblet]

idk i cant read 🥺

[ashen violet]

.

[vital cove]

if we're talking sp then hard atk doesn't matter either so just use 8 spgs

only reason to be using tds is if you're facing opponents with proper tanks
and if you do, then breakthrough matter

[heavy vigil]

hiii haafy

[heavy vigil]

maybe mech army its good and brk isnt as important

[vital cove]

hiiii

[heavy vigil]

how are you?

[vital cove]

surely

[vital cove]

im fine
tired
wbu?

[heavy vigil]

80% hardness

[heavy vigil]

awake

maybe

[vital cove]

who is fielding mech army but has no soft atk

or i mean

no atk

[heavy vigil]

mechwall

[vital cove]

mechwall has atk

[heavy vigil]

not as much as tank

[vital cove]

if you're fighting 36w gun 3 mech

you need breakthrough

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-shakes-you-violently-gif-24929527

[vital cove]

[heavy vigil]

how late even is it for you

[vital cove]

11:28qm

am*

[heavy vigil]

damn

thats crazy

[heavy vigil]

yes?

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[merry compass]

What us the Finnish democratic Republic tag?

[heavy vigil]

usually FIN

if its a dynamic tag its something between D04 and D50

D01-D02-D03 are used for spanish civil war/vichy

[wet summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G69l3EEiELo pretty cool video i thought would fit this channel

[vague lion]

@knotty merlin

[wide osprey]

can we adress that fact blitzkrieg is not tactical doctrine and never was

🙂

[wet summit]

watch the video 😉 it is addressed there

[wide osprey]

ai slop but good for basic knowledge

i saw something like every soviet tactic explained

i guess it was on the same channel

nah it's this

[heavy vigil]

usually the germans were on the left side of that map

minor mistake there

[clear dagger]

they naval invaded

[heavy vigil]

ohhh

no but you can see the frontline

i like how the soviet offensive uses panzer IVs

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/the-joke-superman-flying-missing-the-joke-not-getting-the-joke-gif-16558902

[ivory hull]

captured equipment bro

[heavy vigil]

they used some irl but not that many 😭

also ik the joke im just like

in awe

at these design choices

[ivory hull]

they just had some maintenance in their divs

trust

[lethal ether]

does anyone know how much eu5 usually goes on sale for?

[heavy vigil]

like the same german tanks are PNGs on the soviet side but drawn on the german side

[clear dagger]

they had a limited amount of png usage

[wide osprey]

have you ever seen eu5 on sale bro

[cedar lance]

i always make Real life templates in hoi4

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for a minor nation?

[lethal ether]

idk 😭 thats why im asking

[heavy vigil]

also is that the T-34-85 or am i tripping

famous world war two tank obviously

[lethal ether]

what about eu4 does that go on sale?

[wide osprey]

the game was released six months ago bro

but the biggest sale so far was 10%

per steamdb

https://steamdb.info/app/3450310/

[cedar lance]

hello mangler

[stark rain]

Journey to the west

[cedar lance]

yes

[quasi osprey]

I intend to help allies fight germany later on so I will need them

[cedar lance]

alr

[cedar lance]

what nation you playing as

[quasi osprey]

sweden

[cedar lance]

alr

i mostly play estonia

[quasi osprey]

😅

[cedar lance]

oh god

i usually dont make puppets

i just fully annex

@quasi osprey

[quasi osprey]

as I intend to fight germany later its better to have less borders as I have a small army rn

[cedar lance]

alr

[misty fossil]

Do you not have bba

[quasi osprey]

what is bba\

[misty fossil]

by blood alone

ur cooked

[wet flicker]

its nice not to have to deal with them after you win the war

[cedar lance]

wdym

[quasi osprey]

why tho

[wet flicker]

because usually you have to control the resistance and everything of the territory you annex

but if you puppet them then the leader has to do it themselves and not you

[misty fossil]

Base game air sucks

[quasi osprey]

enough for me

[misty fossil]

ew

🥶

[hard depot]

holy shit i'm actually holding....

[misty fossil]

46 air attack as heavy fighter

thats terrible

bet your plane has like 3 agility

[quasi osprey]

but you do need to remember all the other countries probably have the same or worse

[wet flicker]

yea they all have bullshit that they dont even bother upgrading

[misty fossil]

If you have bba you can design planes that are better than whatever the ai makes

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[cedar lance]

alr

[misty fossil]

With improved small airframe with range focused mio i can get like 37 defense, 58 attack, 55 agility and 800km range

[cedar lance]

i love supersonic jets

[quasi osprey]

is this a good boost?

[cedar lance]

and ALL other jet aircrafts

[azure dagger]

very good

[quasi osprey]

oh ok

[hard depot]

Stalemate...

[quasi osprey]

why are the germans stalling?

should I attack the germans? the americans joined the war africa is mainly under allied control greece is still allive and italy has been naval invaded also the germans are not making a lot of progress in the soviet union?

[misty fossil]

@heavy vigil how do you do the country vs world game

[wide osprey]

they stalling cuz stalin

🙂

or somethin

[honest glacier]

"fall of svestapool" and i look over this snaked all the way from vietnam

[wide osprey]

"svestapool"😭 😔 🥀

[thick vector]

Why hoi4 vanilla doesn't make ww1?

[heavy vigil]

wdym

download mod

[thick vector]

Ahem

[quasi osprey]

So should I

[thick vector]

It's up to you, I'm just showing off

[quasi osprey]

Cool just I have 200 factories and almost 2000 heavy fighters and some medium tanks coming so germany should not be a problem

[thick vector]

That's cool, I have over 200 factories and over 5000 planes and my troops are going on holiday to Mexico and the United States

[quasi osprey]

Are you germany

[thick vector]

Yes, I use German

[quasi osprey]

I am sweden

[thick vector]

Oh, that's a country under my control and I could have invaded Sweden but I'm too lazy because vacations to Mexico and the United States are more important

[misty fossil]

I mean the ragnarok scenarios

There was a ragnarok mod but it was deprecated or something

[prisma saddle]

yo best city in the uk for paratroop?

with low defense

[heavy vigil]

its a bad mod

it makes cw larger

buffs germany

[steep rampart]

What do YOU think of tgwr?

[misty fossil]

Then how did you do your world war thing

[lilac ginkgo]

it sucks

they removed a lot of fun content and they only made it so most countries have their historical paths only

they make the mod less enjoyable with each update

[steep rampart]

I agree, they seem to have an agenda of eliminating all alt history paths that were once in the mod

[heavy vigil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3503246529
and toolpack ig

apparently the player vs world mod isnt on steam anymore

[misty fossil]

Thanks

[heavy vigil]

nvm

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209403726

they made a new one

[heavy vigil]

pinging you so you see

[pure rampart]

omg I wanna try this

[viscid stirrup]

oh my gosh its the ussr❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[chilly spire]

hmmmm DDR

[misty fossil]

What the hell

[chilly spire]

dont you just love the DDR

[ivory hull]

by how much?

[heavy vigil]

forgot because i really dont like ragnarok

its only for germany and it buffs you 💔

force buff in event you cant just choose none

so i rather use 1/2 seperate mods

can remove combat width with the other one if i want yk

[copper cobalt]

O.o

[sly venture]

why do my divisions die when am using last stand

[snow rain]

have you read what last stand does ?

[wide osprey]

From Hitler's speech, 1 April 1945:

[knotty vortex]

why am i not generating supremacy

[heavy vigil]

cuz they take only strenght damage

you replace the org bar with only strenght

[stark elbow]

bc they stand for the last time, and die

[knotty vortex]

this game makes me mad

[copper cobalt]

Because they will hold till the last man and there he goes the last man

[uncut pollen]

How much is the ssr army weakend after the soviet civil war?

[ember vine]

Send ships on patrol

[snow rain]

depend show long the civil war took but generally it's half the size of the original

[snow rain]

there are ...

[knotty vortex]

i’m gonna hold your hand when i tell you this

[rain loom]

It took me 4 resets to get a game with German civil war I must have some insane luck

[ember vine]

Do you want dominance in aegean or east mediterranean

[snow rain]

well, early war against a country that went through a civil war, there isn't gonna be much opposition

[knotty vortex]

east med

[ember vine]

Then try moving your ships to Crete

[knotty vortex]

okay

[hard depot]

Ranger Recons?

What's the gimmick about Ranger Recons compared to other recons

[snow rain]

they're useful because they cost about the same than other recons (except armored) but give real buffs instead of giving nothing
the only two recon that are useful are armored recon (way to stack breakthrough on infantry and buff SPGs) and recon rangers (terrain buffs and SF buffs for rangers/mountaineers)

[hard depot]

Armored cars will always be shit.

[knotty vortex]

oh are my ships stuck???

[hard depot]

Turkey hates you

So they blocked the canal

(I think)

Brand new laptop, brand new USSR game

[lusty orbit]

which nation do you advise me to give a try? I have all DLCs

[hard depot]

What if I take a risk and go with Concentrated Industry on USSR?

[fleet sable]

jordan, lebanon, mandate of palestine or kuwait

[misty fossil]

uttnh jumpscare

[misty fossil]

you know those screenshot memes on reddit where the ops would try to take the most annoyingly blurry image of their hoi4 game possible?

[snow rain]

don't force attack when you don't have manpower

or equipment really

[misty fossil]

actually forget it

[knotty vortex]

okay so

[hard depot]

"85's Large Airframe"
Model shows an ancient ass bomber from WW2

[knotty vortex]

i think i’m doing good

[hard depot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[knotty vortex]

i’m playing greece

i want byzantines

and i’m destroying them

i naval invaded

linked my frontlines up

and now it’s just a home run to capitulate them

i encircled SO much

encircling is so fun

i’m so proud

[patent thistle]

the russian navy in TFR currently

2 more carriers shall be produced

[atomic grove]

use patrol

on navy

[snow rain]

please
just please
look at the screenshot before posting 😭

[atomic grove]

oh right

i didnt see that icon

yeah idk bout this one

ive gotten that bug before

but i never knew what caused it

[south mountain]

Is this good?

[atomic grove]

yeah

[atomic grove]

why tf is the papal army huge though

[snow rain]

their fleet was stuck in the dardanelles and couldn't get to the area on mission

[atomic grove]

oh

[atomic grove]

js wait for sicily to stop attacking

once sicily stops attacking

invade sicily

and while u do that offensive into sicily, naval invade sicily (the island)

[waxen tangle]

IMAGINE

TO RELEASE AN WHOLE DLC JS FOR THE CZECH

IMAGINE BRO

[atomic grove]

yeah

[waxen tangle]

BRO AT LEAST AND REMAKE OF LITTLE ENTENTE

BUT NOOOH

[atomic grove]

if they are willing to release a dlc for JUST czechia, then i hope its good

[waxen tangle]

AND WHEN I GOT TO THEY RE LIVE I GET MUTED FOR SAYING THIS

[atomic grove]

u know we still have thunder at our gates in the future

in the same year

[waxen tangle]

wdym?

[atomic grove]

i dont think theyd be able to work on france, romania, and yugoslavia while having to prioritize thunder at our gates

hopefully they do in the future

those 3 are very outdated

[waxen tangle]

yeah IK literally 12 yo focus

also bro WHATS THEY RE PROBLEM

[atomic grove]

taog is siam, australia, and indonesia (dutch east indies)

[waxen tangle]

everyone does bruh😭

[atomic grove]

whos everyone

i dont

i bought them

[waxen tangle]

wasted miney

[lapis snow]

oh no, it's one of those angry children who doesn't know how the dlc works

[atomic grove]

we bought them

[waxen tangle]

money

[atomic grove]

kid named 70% discounts

[waxen tangle]

so? still u wasted money

[atomic grove]

do u know how dlcs works

[waxen tangle]

u could have gotten ff

[atomic grove]

and whats in the dlcs

hoi4 without dlcs is sad

[waxen tangle]

ohnoo idkk pls illuminate me

[atomic grove]

theres a reason why everyone tries to get every dlc

[waxen tangle]

bud for me all of dlcs works js fine

[atomic grove]

are you saying that we should pirate hoi4 dlcs

[waxen tangle]

thats literally 100% better

ur waisting money u could do smth other with

and all of the dlcs for me work perfectly

i have all of them

[atomic grove]

did u pirate the dlcs

[waxen tangle]

did I?

[atomic grove]

idk, thats why im asking you

[waxen tangle]

ye ofc

[heavy vigil]

lets not discuss this here.

[atomic grove]

lmao

[heavy vigil]

#server-rules

[atomic grove]

right after that a mod came in

idk whyd u say that in the server of the community though

[waxen tangle]

simply is js better

[atomic grove]

is this man going to get evaporated

[waxen tangle]

and yh ofc u get also censored here

cus why wouldnt u

lazy ahh devs

[atomic grove]

paradox doesnt like piracy because it makes them lose profit

r u stupid

[waxen tangle]

tahn they should make better wand whortfull dlcs?

if they re lazy not my fault

[atomic grove]

they did

gotterdammerung

[heavy vigil]

ive asked kindly to stop the discussion

i would recommend you stop here.

[waxen tangle]

gotterdammerung, next

[inland basin]

normal fighters or heavy fighters?

[atomic grove]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[waxen tangle]

bud idc if u ban me

as u can see i js joined js to ragequit cus the dev team is full of lazy ppl

thats why mods are worth playin

vanilla is js boring even with all of the dlcs cus bad focus trees and shit mechs

[lapis snow]

normal unless you need crazy amounts of range like the US

[atomic grove]

small airplanes

always use small airplanes

[visual stone]

Cold war dlc when

[atomic grove]

unless

u need medium or heavy for sps or nukes or raids or sum

[lapis snow]

never

[visual stone]

Damn

[atomic grove]

hoi4 is a ww2 game

sadly no cold war dlc

its completely centered around ww2 only

[south mountain]

So annoying.

[trim schooner]

inshallah all of central america is unified time to sell the world bananas

[atomic grove]

im surprised tiberiu didnt get banned lol

he got muted

[inland basin]

i spam strat bombers tho

[south mountain]

lwk DLCs are annoying but atleast they support the developers

[inland basin]

is there anything to tac bombers?

[atomic grove]

most of them are worth it

[inland basin]

are they useful at all?

[atomic grove]

a few of them arent

[lapis snow]

good for logi strike and not much else

[atomic grove]

strat bombing and logistic bombing

i dont really like strat bombing though

bc ur going to occupy that land that u bombed sooner or later

[inland basin]

but i use strat bombers instead

[south mountain]

I hope they update France and UK and USA in this game.

[atomic grove]

which means by the time u get there, theres gonna be some time before u can use the supply hubs and infrastructure is back

[south mountain]

Their focus trees are SO OUTDATED

[atomic grove]

yeah

uk commie path sucks

[south mountain]

Lwk it is your decision to buy the dlc or not. You are entitled if you think Paradox owes you the DLCs for free.

[south mountain]

I don't understand why is he complaining.

[inland basin]

is cas important?

[south mountain]

Of course

[lapis snow]

YES

[inland basin]

do i need it tho?

can't i use the tac bombers instead

[atomic grove]

yes

obv

cas literally boosts ur divs both defensively and offensively, by a lot

air superiority also does the same

[inland basin]

.

[lapis snow]

you could, but you'd be paying way more in production cost for the damage you inflict

[atomic grove]

but cas is still also very good and useful

[atomic grove]

nah

tac bombers are expensive

they can kind of do the same as cas

[heavy vigil]

more range...

more bombs per cas width

[lapis snow]

if you don't have the MIO, sure

[atomic grove]

but cas is also just as good and can be easier to mass produce

[inland basin]

it looks cooler tho

[lapis snow]

agree, medium airframes are very cool

however, min/max doesn't care for aesthetics

[inland basin]

"Tactical bomber" sounds way cooler than "close air support"

[inland basin]

are strat bombers important?

[lapis snow]

not really

for LARPing maybe

in SP at least they're a waste of IC

the AI can be rolled well before strats make a difference

[inland basin]

i always put them at the top of my production lines

[lapis snow]

lmao

[fading cairn]

holy encirclement

46 divs in one tile

[inland basin]

what about naval bombers

[lapis snow]

cheaper than building a real navy, good value for investment as you can convert light frames

[inland basin]

are scout planes necessary too?

[lapis snow]

never built them

[inland basin]

i built a couple

[lapis snow]

the intel is nice, might be a thing in MP but idk

I never bother

[inland basin]

what about the sp stuff like the mothership aircraft or the rocket interceptor or the intercontinental bomber

[sharp gulch]

why are there so many jew reactions in #hearts-of-iron-news

what am i talking about this is hoi4

ofc theres gonna be those

[lapis snow]

requires a lot of investment to get the special projects for them, by which point the game is half over

again, I've never built any of them

[inland basin]

okay so like what should my production lines for planes be (if i'm playing someone like poland)

[lapis snow]

poland doesn't have enough spare industry to invest in air really

you need to hold the line first and foremost

which means proper infantry

[inland basin]

can't i spam

[lapis snow]

perhaps

whenever I play poland I do inf and SF on the sanation path

[hard depot]

Is it really that worth it to go Trade interdiction on USSR, cause there's not really a strong fleet to contend with

[inland basin]

i prefer the monarchy

[inland basin]

Fleet in being

[hard depot]

For subs, Wolfpack always?

[inland basin]

@lapis snow btw what about the naval patrol planes?

[inland basin]

probably

[hard depot]

Yeah I'll just go Wolfpack because there's not really good alternatives

[lapis snow]

paying attention to navy as the soviets is pointless imo

[lapis snow]

never used

[hard depot]

Best you can do is patrol black Sea to prevent naval invasion, that's it

[sage flare]

hello

[heavy vigil]

hii baba

[lapis snow]

ohio

[lapis snow]

if you end up playing late-game defending against op-unthinkable then you might need a navy, but stealing ships and building roaches is usually enough

[inland basin]

large air frame with naval bomber main armament

[sage flare]

what happens when you run out of fuel?

[hard depot]

I just go Navy and Radar clampdown

Nav Bombers*

[lapis snow]

massive combat and speed penalties for planes, ships and fuel-consuming ground divs

[sage flare]

damn

what about defense

Does that get penalized too

[inland basin]

i don't even use submarines

i don't know how to build good navy do i just spam destroyers and light cruisers?

[hard depot]

Yeah.

[sage flare]

I’m in a historical game right now as Italy, how long is it gonna take for Germany to capitulate France?

what year

and month

[steel idol]

any1 wanna play'

[lapis snow]

not directly afaik, but defense isn't the most important stat

[hard depot]

Cause Destroyers and Light cruisers just take a beating, capitals and nav bombers are the real shit

[lapis snow]

Light attack LCs my beloved

[hard depot]

But I still suggest you wanna spice those DD's and Light cruisers up with radar and sonar/good torps

Then make a cruiser, slap one torpedo, one DP battery, best sonar and best radar

Then shove as many Plane Catapults to it as you can

Then set to patrol and "DO NOT ENGAGE"

[steel idol]

any1 wanna play vannila we are making new game rmn

[hard depot]

Was that intentional?

[misty fossil]

i dont think so

[sage flare]

Guys shoukd i abandon Libya as Italy?

[knotty vortex]

i’m at work and all i can think about is my ongoing war with turkey as greece

somebody help

[fair horizon]

Carriers and cruisers or carriers and destroyers works

[fair horizon]

Its just 2 tiles on each side...

[sage flare]

and I’m loosing bro

[inland basin]

carriers suck

[fair horizon]

Spoken like a fake navyer

[sage flare]

I lost tripoli and I don’t have any borders on France

[lapis snow]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-lies-lie-internet-lie-stop-lying-gif-16106191074125891844

[lapis snow]

if tripoli is gone, libya is gone, rip italian oil

[sage flare]

And I got 3 things encircled btw

aaa

[balmy arch]

How to deal with cheaters

[inland basin]

big pile of junk they are

[sage flare]

how do I defeat uk in Africa

[inland basin]

why would u use carriers

[fair horizon]

Simple. Leave the lobby.

[fair horizon]

Why would you not?

[lapis snow]

you prepare properly and push them past the suez

[balmy arch]

Yeah but I wanna host a game without some guy joining and starting game and kicking everyone

[sage flare]

hmm ok

I’m getting cooked in Somalia land since I bordered the italy(ethoipa)uk borders but I forgot about British somialiand

[inland basin]

they suck

they are clunky asf

and frankly i don't understand how they work

[hard depot]

Naval Bombers have always been meta lmao

Imagine that but on a carrier

[knotty vortex]

carriers are broken right now

they get immediately engaged

[copper cobalt]

LARP LARP LARP

[knotty vortex]

if you try using carriers against the royal navy you’re genuinely cooked

don’t use carriers rn

even for larp

[copper cobalt]

do it for the larp

[lapis snow]

carriers sit at the back of naval combat and send planes to torp everything else, they enter combat first and can murderkill everything if properly supported

[knotty vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-yikes-flight-meme-gif-12822158462297009384

[hard depot]

Lowkey land base Naval Bombers are great

[fair horizon]

??? carriers attack the moment a battle starts

[inland basin]

i can send the planes in from my air bases no need

[copper cobalt]

yes

[lapis snow]

not the same

naval and air combat are separate

[copper cobalt]

Well you can paradrop Paris and then UK as well

[hard depot]

Please don't be the guy who overcrowds his carriers, if you keep doing that then PLEASE use Mobile Airfields doctrine

[lapis snow]

people dogging carriers suffer serious lack of game knowledge ngl

[inland basin]

how

[knotty vortex]

i was watching a medieval mach vid and he said they’re super bad right now

something to do with always getting immediately engaged

[south mountain]

Is this template good? What is its purpose?

[hard depot]

Even I'm 400 hours in HOI4 yet I learned a thing or two in Navy

[lapis snow]

as I just said, they enter combat first and carriers navs torp everything to death before the capitals take a hit, as long as your fleet comp isn't crap they kill everything

[knotty vortex]

i have 200 hours and have decent navy knowledge i like to think

(i spam torpedo destroyers)

[lapis snow]

it's rock/paper/scissors with extra steps

[hard depot]

You wanna beat cringe meta slave subs?
Naval Bombers, Radar and Convoy escort clampdown

[lapis snow]

utter crap, try again

[hard depot]

For carriers, always and I mean ALWAYS shove as many deck space as you can

[sage flare]

THE FRNECH LEFT TRIPOLI AND BASICALLY ALL OF ALGERIA UNDEFENDED

[ivory hull]

template is horrible

[hard depot]

Even better if you have the Mobile Airfields doctrine to reduce carrier overcrowding

I sometimes bring one or two Naval CAS wings, for Naval Invasion support

Dunno if it's viable

[vast depot]

Navy is fake

[hard depot]

I always say this: Naval Aircraft are just universally good

[ivory hull]

just use normal cas

[knotty vortex]

first stage: denial

[hard depot]

Yeah but Naval CAS can also be used for Normal CAS

So it's a win win

[lethal ether]

its purpose is to be deleted

[vast depot]

Final stage of denial I have lie 4k hours

[hard depot]

Same with naval bombers

[knotty vortex]

is naval CAS actually any better than normal CAS

[hard depot]

Same same

[vast depot]

Yes

[knotty vortex]

i just use normal CAS for everything and they slam

[hard depot]

But one can be shoved into a carrier

[ivory hull]

how is naval cas better

[knotty vortex]

aslong as you don’t use fighter 1

[vast depot]

For naval bombing

[knotty vortex]

i don’t use carriers cause they suck rn

[hard depot]

That's the thing about Naval based aircraft, you can use it on a carrier or land base at the same time

So it's a win win

[ivory hull]

for that just spam some navs

[lethal ether]

naval cas can land on water and if you have multiple of them they will merge into ships, imagine the transformers but with planes and ships

[ivory hull]

navy is genuinely not important at all

[hard depot]

Naval Fighters are also good

[hard depot]

How do I naval Invade?

[lethal ether]

wrong, its fun

[hard depot]

If I have no Navy?

[vast depot]

That’s what I’m talking about

[ivory hull]

most countries have a navy, if you dont have one just paradrop

[knotty vortex]

do they not have higher production cost

there must be a negative

[hard depot]

MIO's exist

[fossil cape]

Eh... If u don't have navy u can't invade by NAVY