hoi4-general

[vocal bolt]

their air sucks ass

[sudden thistle]

80% of the player base can barely play the game as it is

[winged field]

but like I hate it's not a standard, bcs the current ai being lobotomized to help new players

cuz like why not make it smarter and make it like for higher difficulty or sum like that

instead of just percent bonuses like it's now

[vocal bolt]

hear me out

ai makes worse planes when you play as a minor

but better ones when you play major

so minors can try to out kd the eenemy with less but alot better planes

[winged field]

that kinda defies the point of playing as minor

[vocal bolt]

and majors keep up withnumbers and win by little improvements

[winged field]

if you even the grounds whats the point

[vocal bolt]

they still make like 10x more than you

also rn its the worst of both worlds

[winged field]

them making worse designs is kinda weird since they are meant to have brain

[vocal bolt]

ai makes dogshit no matter what

[vocal bolt]

hear me out

diifficulty changes their plane tankk and div design

rn difficulty is just pp gain and stuff

imagine if hardest diff made ai run meta stuff

[vital cove]

just play sheep's if that's what you want

[winged field]

sure like i said difficulty shouldnt be just straight stat bonuses to ai, if they want to keep the ai bum with bad designs on standard sure but make great at max diff

[vital cove]

its not really that simple because of a few reasons

[vocal bolt]

I mean yeah you cant just tell ai to get gud

[winged field]

I mean yeah but it feels like they make it bum on purpose so much

[vital cove]

if you make all ai equally good on hardest difficulty

then if you're playing the us for example

then hardest difficulty is not any harder than normal

if you do historical playthrough

[proud tapir]

i feel like the max max difficulty should have genuine stat debuffs, it should be for a difficulty built around wanting to suffer. Below that, the AI should be smarter but without actual stat debuffs

[vocal bolt]

bc its just trivial stuff

[vital cove]

because your allies become better and your enemies become better

[vocal bolt]

supply grace is nothing lmao

[winged field]

yeah in historical it would be bums

[unkempt sand]

@ripe slate @sturdy blade can we please get formable full list?

[ripe slate]

Thatd be spoilers I feel like

[unkempt sand]

oh : ( next dd?

[pastel solstice]

what annoys me since the pacific mini DLC is that the image for coverted cruisers is no different from converted battleship

[vital cove]

i assume they won't keep the Austria Hungary formable, right?

[ripe slate]

Its silly but we didnt delete it

[vital cove]

huge

🔥

[steel idol]

any1 balkan that wanna play

[patent thistle]

yes, i hate myself ; )

[west jungle]

ai germany sea lion?

[vocal bolt]

holy shit

first time I see germany get stalingrad in years

[west jungle]

nah i got it lol jst gave it to them

[vocal bolt]

also I doubt germany will do the real sea lion

they barely naval invade

it used its chance on ireland

[frail bolt]

The last time we saw the German ai capture Stalingrad was gotterdamurung

[west jungle]

yh imma do it myself when i get factories

[stark elbow]

iron... like... hearts of iron? hehehehe it surely is solid as a metal gear

[south mountain]

Who is winning?

[patent thistle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-lord-of-rings-our-S6sZaHdqsGYFO

[west jungle]

reichspakt lol

[sly venture]

Can I defeat France early with paratroopers?

like 1937

[vital cove]

Colombia

[vital cove]

yes

[jovial kite]

Is shaken not stirred still broken or

Becuase that’s a classic that it’s broken

[patent thistle]

the italian army is so recked in east africa-

like look at these strenght bars-

[vague lion]

@knotty merlin Host got banned from discord and closed lobby

like

wtf do you blame the mod on

[patent thistle]

almost 10-1

[jovial kite]

What the hell happened to my hoi4 launcher why won’t it start now

Ok it took a couple tries

Now it’s working

I have no idea why it was doing that

[clear dagger]

"We need D-Day!"

"Best I can do is 12 men"

[patent thistle]

ze french pissed off the horn ig?

[stark elbow]

could never forget the one time i did 20:1

[patent thistle]

a little more lol

thats like 200:1

[stark elbow]

1.200.000 / 60.000 = 20

[patent thistle]

ye just saw now

[west jungle]

ts is why I hate playing minors

[patent thistle]

thats all italy has left in east africa🤣

[stark elbow]

lol

[stark elbow]

you are iran?

[west jungle]

yeah

[stark elbow]

can america go through hormuz?

[west jungle]

no but theyre blockading me lol

[stark elbow]

real life accurate

[dusky burrow]

RIP Italy

[patent thistle]

march 1938 and italy is out of east africa

[patent thistle]

🤣

[stark elbow]

peak

[patent thistle]

imagine you have to trade a german ally for a bulgarian one

[west jungle]

true d day

[woven gate]

TFR GIVES YOU DEBUFFS FOR WINNING

SHIT

how many years until the europoors come back for round 2

[stark elbow]

if you see that they are getting big and blue and under one state you might prepare

[thin ember]

Be thankful it's not Günther Fehlinger in Europe

[thin ember]

There are Nazis there after the victory of the USSR

[stark elbow]

ah

[patent thistle]

accurate name for afar subs?

[west jungle]

is 1939 france any difficult?

[west jungle]

navy research of doom

[patent thistle]

you have to rush italy if you want to win it

[mighty zephyr]

austria had enough

[west jungle]

alr im gonna play it

i think I can win due to the ai being so good lol

[tawny bramble]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kYnoJzl8aBWIU

[zenith charm]

<@&846894118219022336>

[pliant wadi]

<@&846894118219022336>

[woven gate]

i have time then

[tawny bramble]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dog-dance-animal-drive-PrepD8RIYScU6Kp3gz

[stark elbow]

i guess something happened

[tawny bramble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/586868366321516591/978137961663172638/IMG_0787.gif

[vivid juniper]

My best communist China game

[zenith charm]

why dont you have manchukuo

and taiwan

[pliant wadi]

Hes not greedy

[vivid juniper]

I missed my opportunity to get it earlier and about now 1948 world tension is none . I can’t go anyway

I was able to snag Indochina because France was getting into it with Italy, so I embodied the rat and grabbed it

I declared a fifth internationale after the fourth got dismantled by the allies

[late pulsar]

god i love this game

[dusky burrow]

why is romania

how did this even happen

[lethal ether]

guessing poland was guaranteed by romania

and his frontlines are uhm

yeah

and his supply is also pretty nonexistent

guessing he also tried declaring on yugoslavia and they were guaranteed by france

[winged field]

Something something largest artillery wins - probably Bonaparte at some point

[cursive oxide]

is geting frace good trader for india and canada and
austila and new sealand

[uncut pollen]

No

[lethal ether]

<@&846894118219022336>

oh

too late

[winged field]

help cahnnel too

[mighty zephyr]

first time playing uhh whatever the hell this path of austria is

the

[waxen bough]

Does anyone know why did historical got so in historical in last week?

[waxen bough]

Like UK doing naval invasion in könisburg after me invading Poland

Does anyone know what happened to Ai?

[cursive oxide]

best uk path ?

[waxen bough]

Fascist one

[waxen bough]

Or neutral probably

[cursive oxide]

what if i invade the frech in 1936 then i flip ?

[waxen bough]

You have to go through civil war if you going fascist

[cursive oxide]

so ?

[waxen bough]

If you want to you can

But you are democratic so you really can’t do that?

[grave sonnet]

The Bosnian Division

[cursive oxide]

royal weding

[molten forge]

this bad?

[grave sonnet]

Bro never I mean NEVER use line artillery

As much as my Bosnian soul hurts to say this

But Line Art is bad

[molten forge]

i really need something stronger than 3x3 bro

[grave sonnet]

You playing china?

[molten forge]

guangxi clique

the dlcless one

[grave sonnet]

Shittttt

[molten forge]

yea, but i got men and guns

i really need a infantry division thats better than 3x3

[winter badge]

Hello folks

[molten forge]

@grave sonnet can you help me make one

[grave sonnet]

Bro I'll be honest for China I just go for the regular juntuan reformed

I beat Japan

With that

[grave sonnet]

Lowk

[molten forge]

i willl add companies later

[grave sonnet]

Make it 36 width

(also research mountaineer when u can)

[molten forge]

oh shi i forgot that

[mighty grove]

hi i am looking for friends [i am 14]

[molten forge]

this place is full of autism

[grave sonnet]

Bro Ur looking for friends in a server of probably the most cancerous game out there just saying

[mighty grove]

i am too

Russian?

[uncut pollen]

English only

[stoic flame]

hey

[uncut pollen]

Same goes to you

[grave sonnet]

Fine fine

[oblique marsh]

how do i find russian

?

[molten forge]

guangxi clique lowk op

16 civs

[grave sonnet]

Yes true

Best warlord

Dlcless

[west jungle]

What’s the meta in rt56 for the majors? Is it similar to vanilla?

[molten forge]

yet the republican goverment is not allowing me to do the damn power struggle

[grave sonnet]

Lowk I loved that they gave china a huge gun deficit

It was fun playing them

[molten forge]

fr

1938 i still cant change to chinas focus as guangxi

[mighty grove]

yo

[molten forge]

should i go for the full taking out china using republican

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[flint widget]

ai turkestan survives

[molten forge]

i just got the worst luck ever

[warped sapphire]

Why do enemy divsions have such stupidly high defense? Vichy France had an inf divison with 9 infantry and engineer support. They had 733 defense. What the hell is that

[terse skiff]

@heavy vigil I got the website to work, now it's just missing mios

[viscid mason]

hello bmh

[terse skiff]

entrenchment most likely

hey vistula

[viscid mason]

oh yeah I shared that site yesterday. I think this would be an easier way to share division templates than firing up hoi4 imo even if its not accurate.

[terse skiff]

yeah without mios it's kind of hard to make it work

cuz that division is like 1k soft atk in my game

[sly venture]

why did italy not just do this irl

[terse skiff]

also how do they calculate cost? how did they get 6k to 10k in my screenshot

esp when I only gave them a one design for each tank

[viscid mason]

idk i would probably take the stats with a pinch of salt not sure if you could put your tank variants in the div templates

[dusky burrow]

it's cut off

there's a romanian blob in czechia and it's completely disconnected from anyone else

how did it get that large

[dusky burrow]

you should aim for more hp when you're doing such a challenge imo

[molten forge]

this bad

?

[stark elbow]

we italians gave greece enough time to prepare. in fact, they did prepare

[winged field]

Having more org than HP is just an aura. But yeah it's not an ideal template xD

[west jungle]

Is it just me who really doesn’t like the way they changed doctrines? Like I came back after a long break from the game and now it feels way lower skill and less interesting.

[limpid field]

guess what achievement i was doing

i finally did it

[terse skiff]

what skill was there in the old one? You chose sfp, gbp, or ma and moved on

[viscid mason]

did you select the tank equipment?

[terse skiff]

yeah, I made them according to my in game design, but there are no mios

[viscid mason]

the site is still in beta

[severe monolith]

10/10 borders

[stark elbow]

who is HE

[west jungle]

Grinding them, having to make certain decisions for xp etc.

[terse skiff]

you still grind them now

and you have to make certain decisions

in fact now you need to proritize mil xp more because you need a lot of xp to fully dev your subdoctrines

[keen pebble]

should i have more than one nuclear reactor?

[gleaming acorn]

im segma

[blissful stirrup]

sigma

[gleaming acorn]

how is japan even in europe

lol

[molten forge]

peak army in 1941

[heavy vigil]

i became a great power before i could annex all of australia my economy is dying (i didnt intend to become a GP which removes your puppet status automatically)

[dusky burrow]

aura is when you die

[dusky burrow]

first world problems be like

[heavy vigil]

XD im being punished

[viscid mason]

oof

[heavy vigil]

i tried following a guide and it makes sense but like im doing too well

[karmic viper]

GNG WHAT IS THIS

[gilded pike]

guys, are there going to be any new chechoslovakian achievements in the peace for our time?

[karmic viper]

AINT NO FRICKING WAY

ok what

[severe monolith]

I dont know lol

the japanese were at war with the allies since 1937

No idea how tbh

oh, its because the brits garunteed china after the leader of china got killed

[stoic flame]

how many russians are in ts server

[karmic viper]

(the context was the italians were getting pushed by switzerland

[vocal bolt]

am gonna try canada for the first time

[fair horizon]

Show navy

[heavy vigil]

no

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/angy-cat-cute-angry-judging-gif-5664908679004854891

[frail estuary]

I have a question for everyone here

may you help me answer it

[cedar latch]

RIGHT

[frail estuary]

is everything here right:

hungary = green
turkey = red
china = blue

I mean the colour on the map

[cedar latch]

After nuking Florida trillions of times I have done it

[frail estuary]

or do you guys think

hungary = light orange
turkey = light green
china = yellow

like the ingame version

can anyone tell me which one you choose

[vocal bolt]

why does adrian arcand look like that

[ember glen]

The first one

But I don't have a problem with yellow china in particular

[vocal bolt]

turkey is red

ottoman is green

[frail estuary]

I agree aswell

[vocal bolt]

I really dont know china tho

both purple ish blue and yellow is good

[frail estuary]

do you think hungary fits better for green or for light orange

[vocal bolt]

light orange

but

green for communist

[frail estuary]

this is what you like?

except hungary is communist

[gritty tundra]

u gon get soviet an turkey mixed up

[fair horizon]

Its all red under the british empire

[languid patrol]

theres no way

[fair horizon]

Weakest venzuelan warrior

[languid patrol]

historicial btw

[gritty tundra]

do u have to let the king in greece rule to become fascist?

cuz i dont see the fascist focus on the other side

[heavy vigil]

its burma

[opaque zinc]

I am so assssss at this game bro

I have like 500 hours and I’m so bad

Actually I’m lying I’m ok

But just not at like

Germany

Well no that’s not true

I just suck at like thinking ahead

Especially for navy

Idk what to build

Since idk what’s good

[vocal bolt]

is there a way to have fun as canada

Great depression is so ass

[frail estuary]

I have another question about colours for you all

afganistan is currently actually light blue in the current game

should it be black, white, dark green, light green, or light blue

[upbeat tundra]

d i h

[dusky burrow]

yeah we all know what paradox did

[quick jungle]

playing allied democratic bulgaria

[vocal bolt]

screw this

played canada for 4 years

held out the germans for like a year on my own bc france refused to put troops on benelux

then they cap and make me lose my ENITRE army

defo going fascist next time lmao

[karmic viper]

how you get this?

[opaque zinc]

Oh my god I thought my computer was so cooked

Like I had this error and it said couldn’t load user profile

And when I restarted my computer

I had like an empty desktop

And like I could access my other files

But when I restarted it again it’s back

Ahhhh

I was so scared

I hate how many issues computers have

And they’re so complex and difficult to understand

[restive sable]

its an event

[karmic viper]

I did some research and I think I locked myself out of it

[brittle laurel]

you could have UK go no appeasement then you’ll eventually be called into war against them

and then it’s just

survive

[restive sable]

how so

[karmic viper]

did the republican party

[restive sable]

havent played turkey in a good minute

[terse skiff]

90% of a computer's problems can be fixed by restarting the computer

[dusky burrow]

vote the demokrats in

then you will get an event

[viscid mason]

Hi liv

[gaunt hearth]

ragnarok 1939 but steiner does the counter attack

[gaunt hearth]

Its an event

[stiff zinc]

What is current meta inf div as Germany SP

[gaunt hearth]

ionknow i just spammed shit ton of tanks

[stiff zinc]

24w 12inf?

[atomic grove]

the 18 width inf

if ur in sp the meta inf is usually 18w with support comps

[stiff zinc]

So just the one they give you

Which support comps?

And strategy thing

[terse skiff]

support art and support aa if you can't get green air

[atomic grove]

recon rangers, engineer comp, anti air, field hospital, support arty

[terse skiff]

that's really all you should need for 18w

[karmic viper]

what even happened

[gaunt hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/erik-ten-hag-ten-hag-eth-erik-manc-gif-9081880537920318803

[terse skiff]

focus your supports for bigger offensive divisions

[karmic viper]

two things

1 how did you get yourself into this situation

[terse skiff]

if you're doing that you might as well upgrade the division to 36w

[stiff zinc]

Which strategy thing for inf should I use?

[gaunt hearth]

steiner counter attack happened (i dont know i just encircled a bunch of divisions till they had nothing left)

[karmic viper]

2 HOW TF ARE THERE 10+ MAJORS

[gaunt hearth]

ragnarok 1939

[gaunt hearth]

thats the mod

[terse skiff]

wdym strategy

[atomic grove]

frontline holding?

[gaunt hearth]

i tried to do anschluss and the world declared on me 😭

[atomic grove]

u usually should use infantry for frontline holding especially as sp germany

[stiff zinc]

I meant doctrine

Damn
Forgot the word lmao

What doctrine is preferred as Germany SP for inf

[atomic grove]

mobile warfare

[terse skiff]

if you want meta then it's gbp + indivdual excellence + self propelled support + streamlined deployment + grand assault in sp

[stiff zinc]

Subdoctrine for inf?

[atomic grove]

r u going to use infantry for offensives

i hope not

[stiff zinc]

When necessary

Ill have med tanks

[heavy vigil]

pick one

[stiff zinc]

Proper 36w tank divs for attack and inf to hold

[heavy vigil]

hoi4 is about specializing

[gaunt hearth]

this aint ww1 😭

[atomic grove]

yeah

[gaunt hearth]

i personally use mediums or moderns if i go really far

[terse skiff]

Don't pick mw it sucks also just use my doctrines

[heavy vigil]

its hoi4

[gaunt hearth]

lights for speed and or space marines

[stiff zinc]

I literally scrolled back to some dude 2 days ago saying Space Marines are moot

[heavy vigil]

they can be good

[atomic grove]

im pretty sure he means infantry with more tank bats than just 1 tank batt

or replace infantry with special forces

[heavy vigil]

just make your units larger and see the difference

[gaunt hearth]

i just like to add a little bit of armor

[stiff zinc]

So Ill have 36s med tank divs for attack and inf to hold
Ill be using mobile warfare
Which subdoctrines should I go for

[heavy vigil]

and make the tanks not useless spaa

[atomic grove]

oh alright

[gaunt hearth]

I still remember when I was dumb i got 24 units of 14/4 marines destroyed on dday

😭

[atomic grove]

use that one organization subdoc that gives like +15 org instantly

i forgot what it was

[terse skiff]

Mobile warfare is the worst grand doctrine

[gaunt hearth]

lowkey if you wont main tanks go superior firepower imo

[stiff zinc]

Yeah but Im germany 😭

[gaunt hearth]

just main tanks with infantry just to hold or support

[terse skiff]

Just pick something else then

[unreal mica]

Guys i finally did it

I finally formed super germany in kaiserreich

[terse skiff]

Unless you're forcing yourself to pick mw you don't have to be stuck on it

[atomic grove]

try forming the german empire as austria

[gaunt hearth]

congrats

[unreal mica]

Yeah thats what i did

[gaunt hearth]

try saving the ottomans

[atomic grove]

cool

[atomic grove]

ottomans arent that hard

in kr

and kx

[unreal mica]

i did superior firepower stuffed the living hell out of my divisions with artillery

It was brutal..

[heavy vigil]

im tired gn chat

[unreal mica]

gn

[gaunt hearth]

gn

its 3 am and I got lectures tomorrow

[unreal mica]

What other tough challenges are there in kaiserreich

[atomic grove]

third bulgarian empire

[unreal mica]

i formed arabia as syria

[unreal mica]

Done

[heavy vigil]

its 9pm and the tired just hit for me

[atomic grove]

reunify china as right kmt yunnan

[terse skiff]

Touching grass

[unreal mica]

right kmt yunnan?

[atomic grove]

yes

[heavy vigil]

thats the @hidden spruce meta

[unreal mica]

I’ll check that out

[atomic grove]

whats that

[unreal mica]

never did china

[thick vector]

Ladies and gentleman

[atomic grove]

yunnan is genuinely annoying to play

[unreal mica]

only did fengtian

[atomic grove]

there are mountains everywhere

[unreal mica]

i tried one germany game i got barraged with so many events and power struggles

That i just

stopped

[ripe slate]

[thick vector]

Are most of the people who play the Hoi4 game teenagers and adults?

[unreal mica]

sounds like a very good opportunity to grind a mountaineer general

[unreal mica]

well who else could they be

not grandpas

[heavy vigil]

he advocates for fascist yunnan to unify china fastest

[thick vector]

Who knows there might be😹

[unreal mica]

Would be a nice vibe

Grandpa plays hoi4 yunnan

🔥🔥🔥

[atomic grove]

u basically cant fight any of ur neighbors though

[unreal mica]

whys that

[atomic grove]

almost always, they are stronger than u in both div count, manpower, factories, and templates

[unreal mica]

dang

sounds challenging

[thick vector]

Military veteran grandpa plays as the United States

[heavy vigil]

iceland is

[atomic grove]

i forgot that iceland existed

[unreal mica]

Oh that sounds horrible..

[heavy vigil]

someone needs to develop an iceland meta

afaik it doesnt exist yet

[unreal mica]

what can you even do as iceland

I like achievement hunting

Kaiserreich

[atomic grove]

basically nothing

[heavy vigil]

it has those

play iceland and every other country will feel OP

[atomic grove]

u can still join sides and factions

but u basically cant do shit

[unreal mica]

is forming turkestan hard?

[atomic grove]

no

[heavy vigil]

not really

[unreal mica]

fr!

?

[heavy vigil]

you have to go down a poltical path to join factions

you start as a puppet

you have economy debuffs

you start with a civ that goes to consumer goods

and a dockyard

[atomic grove]

well yeah u can after it

[heavy vigil]

truly riveting nation

[unreal mica]

Does it count if i took tips from reddit

[atomic grove]

oh wait no

i only played turkestan in kx

i forgot

[unreal mica]

the one tip was “kill romania first”

[atomic grove]

ive never played any of the turkestan countries in kr

[atomic grove]

yeah

[unreal mica]

they never make it against tussia

[atomic grove]

u should kill romania first

they are the strongest (besides the ottomans)

[unreal mica]

when are they adding a Hungary focus tree damnit

[atomic grove]

after u kill romania, the belgrade pact becomes easy to destroy

u might have some trouble killing greece because of supply and terrain

[late pulsar]

idk

just

happend

[unreal mica]

have you done it?

[atomic grove]

yeah

[thick vector]

Yesterday I played as Germany and almost wanted to defeat the Soviet Union, but Romania betrayed and joined the Allies, and Romania lost, even though if it hadn't betrayed, it would have gotten Soviet territory

[unreal mica]

Dang cool

[atomic grove]

js fall back and then encircle greek divs

to make it easier

[late pulsar]

greece is annoying cus islands

[unreal mica]

i found out how to level up your generals

[terse skiff]

that's why you just declare on them and annex them

[unreal mica]

Basically u wanna encircle divisions

A lot

it works so well

[late pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177680057045618883/1490520935722389596/togif.gif

[unreal mica]

i always thought you had to grind into their frontline and stuff

so it was a groundbreaking discovery for me

[thick vector]

And in the end the Soviet Union lost and Romania lost

[late pulsar]

idk usually when i do barbarossa i get clapped by soviet divisions

they have like 3 tank divs and 300 infantry divisions

[terse skiff]

18w infs should be able to battleplan ai sov with green air + cas

[thick vector]

Logistics issues are possible and you will need to quickly capture the supply hub

Don't forget to use your plane!

[late pulsar]

probably my horrible industry

im minimum 10000 deficit in trucks

by barbarossa

[thick vector]

Trucks are very important for logistics

[late pulsar]

no way

really

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[late pulsar]

i usually use bicycles to supply my divisions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/697453732308451338/1268954858463952896/Carrot.gif

im no expert at the game i usually just larp

holy essay typing up a storm

[thick vector]

Is this the smartest man in the world? Even logically in the real world, trucks clearly carry more logistics than bicycles

[late pulsar]

yes but mass produce bicycles

id rather have 100000 bicycles then 10000 trucks

https://tenor.com/view/contemplating-thinking-gif-17339853886032698653

[languid patrol]

how do i fix this

[late pulsar]

fix what

[languid patrol]

factories going to repair and not buliding stuff

[late pulsar]

im pretty sure you cant cancel repairs

[hot jolt]

Are you playing soviets?

[languid patrol]

BRUHH

[late pulsar]

i think

[languid patrol]

what stupid dev thought of that

[thick vector]

Bro, he cares more about the health of his soldiers than the contents of his soldiers' stomachs

[late pulsar]

i usually larp hoi4 all day

[languid patrol]

i dotn want to repair stuff in the middle of siberia

[late pulsar]

i usually put all my occupied terrotires on brutal oppression so they hopefully sabotage less

[dusky burrow]

build more things

it's using spare civs to repair

[languid patrol]

no

[dusky burrow]

so if you have no spare civs then yeah

[languid patrol]

look

[dusky burrow]

oh wait

[severe maple]

When should you cancel mefo bills, just realized there is probably a better specific time

[dusky burrow]

i see what you mean

[languid patrol]

that supply hub has 0 civs

[late pulsar]

steal gold reverses

[languid patrol]

but the reparing has civs on it

[late pulsar]

frick cancleiing them

[late pulsar]

the other guy has a point

build more civs

[severe maple]

Huh

[late pulsar]

talking about mefo bills

[languid patrol]

im not germanyt

[severe maple]

Im talking about mefo bills

[unreal mica]

I think i remember there was a button for it on the top right of the ui

[severe maple]

They were responding to me

[languid patrol]

o

[unreal mica]

got a + and -

[late pulsar]

when they reach 100% u get a pop up and one of them lets you get a decision to steal gold from france poland etc after war

[hot jolt]

If someone larps stats . I have question in germany i have start of the game learnt cannon I but heavy mg is better in stats but research wise it takes so long

[severe maple]

Is it actually best to just wait them out then?

[languid patrol]

its on 0 :(

[late pulsar]

cant wait out mefo bills i think

[thick vector]

[late pulsar]

idk tho

[severe maple]

I mean let them run for awhile instead of just auto cancel

[dusky burrow]

is yoru supply hub on the front lines

[unreal mica]

This try tweaking with it

[late pulsar]

im no expert

[hot jolt]

Just put garrison on martial law

[languid patrol]

yeah if u turn it up it just puts more civs on repairs

[terse skiff]

iirc you can just do all the price controls and then cancel mefo bills to have it perma-locked at negative consumer goods factor but it might be patched already

[late pulsar]

alr bro took over soviets and only 200 factories

genuinely what are you doing

[languid patrol]

forming turan

[unreal mica]

Try putting all ur civs and then going back to zero

[terse skiff]

he took half of ussr with less factories

[hot jolt]

If someone larps stats . I have question in germany i have start of the game learnt cannon I but heavy mg is better in stats but research wise it takes so long

[languid patrol]

oh

if the tile is geting attack

ed

it doesnt build

peak game

[unreal mica]

How do u have more than 500 military xp

[languid patrol]

rt56

[unreal mica]

Does it have achievements

[languid patrol]

ye

[dusky burrow]

correct

[wet flicker]

i have no idea what to do but defend our mainland tbh]

going for a paratrooper offense on the british island soon

[spring acorn]

Is This good for only 100 hours?

[wet flicker]

im doing the same thing rn

its good that you formed austria-hungary before you got into war with germany

you'll be way more prepared

you gotta get romania out the way asap tho

you want to defeat axis as soon as you can because if you dont, then all the remaining countries in the axis faction will switch over to the allies

regardless if they're facist

and then you'll be facing a never ending war like me

[spring acorn]

? I own/puppet almost all of Europe

Only Scandinavia hasn’t fallen to me yet

[unreal mica]

Guys in twr

[wet flicker]

oh you're germany?

i thought you were austria hungary

[unreal mica]

When u win the german civil war and push out the TA theres a superevent with a nice german song

Has ppl whistling and stuff

Whats the song called

[spring acorn]

Yea I allied with half of Europe too

[wet flicker]

ive never seen ai form autria hungary before

[spring acorn]

Follow this focus tree and they will

[unreal mica]

I dont think its pro nazi or smth

[spring acorn]

?

[worn cliff]

<@&916727971820240976> hi

i need

hlep

help

[hollow mulch]

What is the best papal state italy troops template

[wet flicker]

oh yea i wanted to do that

but you need dlc

[spring acorn]

Ohh

[dusky burrow]

how so

[wet flicker]

my save files tell a story

[misty fossil]

Btw ur avatar is ai

[unreal mica]

Still looks good

[misty fossil]

Real

[spring acorn]

I wish hoi4 Made a better peace thing

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/cityboy-cityboys-city-boy-city-boys-city-boy-city-boy-gif-1728226775662477911

[karmic viper]

@astral agate whats going on in this vc

[karmic viper]

JOJO REFERENCE?

[dusky burrow]

giant hungary lmao

[karmic viper]

3 lobotomy patients playing together

[dusky burrow]

is it germany and hungary versus greece?

somehow

[karmic viper]

I mean they fighting greece

[dusky burrow]

oh italy is a player

[viral juniper]

no its the allies versus axis

[dusky burrow]

who's allies and who's axis with 3 players

[viral juniper]

all axis cuz the 2 players have 20 hours on the game and they learn

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[wraith mauve]

Rt56 is Actully really fun

[dusky burrow]

poland defeated and lithuania still doesn't have vilnius

[wraith mauve]

I am waiting to annex Lithuania and restore kingdom of Lithuania which include Vilnius

[dusky burrow]

i see

[wraith mauve]

Also I beat France and uk just wanted to see if they would go for round 3 like kaiserreich

[worn cliff]

what does this template lack

[barren coyote]

Bro the next dlc actually looks kinda fun ngl

[fair horizon]

Landcruisers

[dusky burrow]

hospitals are sixth slot?

are you also playing on a 40-width mod?

[trim plume]

supply consumption

being at an all time high

[worn cliff]

yes

[worn cliff]

yes

[spring acorn]

Have y’all ever had the Spainish revolt last till 1941?

[dusky burrow]

not unheard of

[trim plume]

great spanish civilwar

[worn cliff]

theorically i could put armtracs on this but its undoable

[spring acorn]

It’s annoying me cus it’s allowing America to land into Europe

[worn cliff]

i managed to get 45 of those out before borb

barb

i think the main problem i had was my inf

i think i should've made mech walls

[trim plume]

i love spain

[stark rain]

Wahahahaha

I also have a strong navy

[shrewd inlet]

who were you playing as

[stark rain]

200 ship

[spring acorn]

I destroyed the ussr

[stark rain]

Play with dada

[shrewd inlet]

wha

[worn cliff]

germany

my eco was cracked but i did a few mistakes that cost me the game

i had 450 mils before barb

i couldve had 500 if i full collabed france and belgium

[shrewd inlet]

uhh idrk what mod it was but usually bulgaria does mech?

[worn cliff]

i had no axis majors except romania lma

[shrewd inlet]

oh gg

i assume romania did mass mob

[woven gate]

i haven't texted here in a while

[worn cliff]

yea no special forces cap

so mountaineer spam

but italy did terrible

[shrewd inlet]

sob

[worn cliff]

and the dday wall got absolutely destroyed

[shrewd inlet]

italy was ai i assume

[worn cliff]

did nothing in africa

and my infantry was so shit because no manpower and occupation the soviets roached me pretty good

[shrewd inlet]

honestly fair if theres no bulgaria

[worn cliff]

but they didnt do much

[shrewd inlet]

when I used to play mp the soviet roach builds were crazy

I've seen light tanks, *air russia 😭 *, mass mob trolling it's wild

[worn cliff]

also yea my italy got destroyed in air

so i did barb all alone basically

only my inf and no air 💀

[dusky burrow]

Yeah that's definitely true

[trim plume]

Would you fight for a free world knowing you would die

or would you live in a world filled with control

knowing you wont be able to get the freedom you once had before

[upbeat tundra]

press win then shift then s

all while holding win shift and s

[dusky burrow]

i wouldn't call that trolling though; those builds have reasonable rationale and they at least somewhat work

[wary sparrow]

welp there goes myanmar

[shrewd inlet]

The trolling part is when they frontline and win

Like just straight up aggro battleplan until they bleed the axis outta supplies

It’s so funny

[dusky burrow]

well on the other side there is the Allies

which makes it difficult for Germany to crush the Soviets fully

but they sometimes still do

[thorn sleet]

Rate my Poland game.

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah Soviets are really just to hold off the axis and waste supplies

So the allies can dday

[dusky burrow]

very suspicious soviet blob to the east

[shrewd inlet]

What the fart

[wary sparrow]

their country went kaboom

[thorn sleet]

It's gonna be fun.

The RT56 allows me to release a Ukrainian Liberation Army.

And bring in Yugoslavia and Finland to my faction.

But first I'll fix up the peace deal.

I'll give Baden to the Czechs.

[misty fossil]

must have been the wind

[wary sparrow]

thank god i have a good pc, twr is not for the faint hearted

[dusky burrow]

yeah society just implodes in these post-wwii mods

[wary sparrow]

to be fair its to be expected

[oak mantle]

What is the DLC thunder at our gates going to be about again?

[wary sparrow]

later this year

[oak mantle]

Oh no i just checked what its gonna be about on the steam page

Its changing division design

gg

[terse skiff]

+4 italy, guys

[coarse hull]

im not sure what to say

[dusky burrow]

good to be an albanian

[lilac ginkgo]

egyptians and albanians are minorities son

[warm falcon]

ok, so why can germany do the anschluss when austria is my puppet (i´m hungary) and in my alliance if its said for the focus that germany needs a bigger army than austria (germany has not) and all the things for bypassing the focus are true

[upbeat tundra]

2/10

its not poland lithuania

so its 2/10

[upbeat tundra]

but i know what to say - bump up those graphics

[lapis snow]

pretty sure there's an event that pops if the two are in the same faction, can't remember if it requires same ideology or anything else though

[worn cliff]

idk what kind of steroid does the AI get put on when they get 50 percent buff but its pretty insane

[lapis snow]

just read the tooltip

the country buffs just improve almost every macro stat there is, doesn't change their armies much though

[drowsy mirage]

guys im so bored, what country should i play

i have all the dlcs

and i just want a nation with an interesting path

[fair horizon]

Australia

[coarse hull]

albanian-egyptian world order

[warm falcon]

why can you make the european federation as austria-hungary starting as hungary

that doesnt make any sense

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[thorn sleet]

🙄

[fair horizon]

Its cause hungary is in europe

[thorn sleet]

Bro thinks it's 1500

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/winged-hussars-gif-5878084

[upbeat tundra]

im not the one who didnt form poland lithuania

[digital aurora]

I really wish the Soviets got a canal from the pacific to the white sea at the very top so It can simulate the northern sea route (which was used by the Soviet navy to transfer ships from the pacific fleet to the northern fleet in WW2)

[upbeat tundra]

what soviet navy?

[digital aurora]

3 destroyers from the pacific fleet

[upbeat tundra]

wheres ur aircraft carrier that is basically scrap

[grand matrix]

Are there any good mods for like, 19th century-early 20th timeframe?

Or Great War mod?

[thorn sleet]

Great War Redux

[thorn sleet]

TNO or Cold War

[clear dagger]

i dont think tno is early 20th century or 19th century

starting date is in the 60s right?

[atomic grove]

yeah

1962

[craggy trail]

early 20th is pre ww2

So Great War and every other alt-hist interwar like Kaiserreich

[grand matrix]

What’s TNO like?

I think I heard of it before

[clear dagger]

alt history where the axis won ww2 and its during the cold war when the game starts

and nuclear armageddon that will literally end your game with 1 wrong move

[grand matrix]

So post WW2 tech? Neat

[clear dagger]

and lore reading simulator

and child labor

[grand matrix]

So Britain simulator

[clear dagger]

more like manmade horrors beyond your comprehension simulator

[grand matrix]

So just modern timeline simulator

[clear dagger]

worse

[grand matrix]

How worse?

[clear dagger]

server wont even let me list them lol

[grand matrix]

Huh

Guess I’ll check it out then

[blissful stirrup]

o wait wrong channel

mb

[clear dagger]

deliver supply from your capital supply hub to your other hubs

[clear dagger]

its alright

[blissful stirrup]

👍

[clear dagger]

its not super strict if you ask help here

you'll just receive more advice in the help channel probably

[blissful stirrup]

oooh

[blissful stirrup]

also are trucks only for motorized or can it be used for supply too?

[clear dagger]

they increase supply and their range

from each supply hub

that your troops are near

[grand matrix]

So

Is it always better to switch to best motorisation of supply?

[hard depot]

what's up

[clear dagger]

if you're forces need it and you have enough trucks for it

[worn cliff]

hey

<@&916727971820240976> do yall know why my tanks constantly get pushed out after taking a tile (most of the time), i know i get debuffs on supply since im stretching my lines and entrenchment/org but i hardly find a way to fix it

and this happens with like 120 armor hardly piercable divisions

[hard depot]

Terrain?

What terrain be at

[worn cliff]

it happens on barb it can be plain or forest

but also on french front

[fair horizon]

Usually because they run out of org while attacking a tile

Its a bug

[worn cliff]

im doing it no air so i get -30% on defense but its not like it matters since they cant pierce me

[fair horizon]

Attack tiles from multiple directions

[hard depot]

Do people even reccomend GBP on USSR ever since doctrines have changed?

That I wonder

[worn cliff]

feels like my divs dont reinforce quickly enough

[fair horizon]

Main doctrine imo doesnt matter but im a MW stan

[worn cliff]

does attacking from different directions consume less org

[hard depot]

also reduces fort effectiveness

[fair horizon]

No it means multiple troops move into the tile

[worn cliff]

im testing this too much against AI and i always buff them to 50%

[hard depot]

like damn ever since doctrines have been changed you can't go down a set path to give the gameplay a little bit of spice

[worn cliff]

idk if its something to realistically happen in mp

[hard depot]

Back then you go for MA-R on USSR

[worn cliff]

whats the point of ma except reinforce rate

[fair horizon]

i think it lowers inf width

[worn cliff]

that was before no

[hard depot]

That's Large Unit Tactics today but it was for MA

[worn cliff]

now thats just large unit tactics

[fair horizon]

Yeah i wouldnt know, div speed goes too hard

[hard depot]

Mass Assault right path was the absolute meta for the USSR (Afaik back then)

[dusky burrow]

yeah probably low org after winning battle

so terrain may be a factor

[hard depot]

hmmmm

Maybe I should go GW Infantry or Defensive Postures against barb

[dusky burrow]

large unit tactics probably

[hard depot]

i'm still on mass assault lol

[dusky burrow]

then change that first

[hard depot]

probably one of my favorite templates cause I can spam this shit out on barb

[hard depot]

GBP?

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[limpid field]

why is US going alf landon on historical

with the new deal

[dusky burrow]

increase that to 36 width (18 inf) and by the time you get combat width reduction from large unit tactics increase this to a (20 inf 2 aa)

[hard depot]

I literally had that perfect ass defense only to realize the fact that I had 9 mountaineer divisions onto the Hungarian line

they broke through and it was gg's lmao

[dusky burrow]

surely that's not irreversible

[worn cliff]

this is what i mean look at the end

[hard depot]

the larp continues

[dusky burrow]

i don't see the issue

[worn cliff]

got pushed out of the tile like nothing

[dusky burrow]

your tanks got stuck in long battles, largely de-orged, got pinned, and then new units quickly entered before you can re-entrench

[worn cliff]

and its this over and over again i cant rly get encirclements

[worn cliff]

i pushed them fairly quickly tho

[hard depot]

yeah thats the thing

[worn cliff]

extremely quickly even

that was a 5 hour battle at best

[hard depot]

encirclements may be satisfying but you aint gonna do that 24/7 lmao

[worn cliff]

cuz i get like 2.5k soft attack avg

even on forest tiles

[dusky burrow]

also you're attritioning

low supply

[hard depot]

Are cheap trains just....useless

[dusky burrow]

maybe motorize some supply

[worn cliff]

not rly no

[hard depot]

We're just spamming out Armored trains like candy

NO.

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-24341837

[worn cliff]

is this even an org problem

[dusky burrow]

I think you're placing way too many tanks in your micro operations

they have such low supply

and yes you are running out of org

[worn cliff]

maybe i js made too much yeah

also no ir

air

and theyre getting like 40% defense buff cuz i buffed them

[hard depot]

You could have broke though stuttgart

[worn cliff]

among other things prob

[dusky burrow]

what does your division look like btw

[worn cliff]

armor may be too low

[dusky burrow]

salso your division is 40 width

[worn cliff]

i use 80 width mod

normal

[dusky burrow]

oh never mind then

[worn cliff]

but something similar would happen with 36width

tbh ill js try whitout buffing the other country to hell and with normal supply and air and it would be fine

[dusky burrow]

Your division uses 6 supply per division

[worn cliff]

💀 💀 ik

[dusky burrow]

If you have 5 of them in a tile you have 30 supply per tile

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/a-gem-benjammins-chud-door-door-cam-gif-7224643390232569308

[dusky burrow]

So without investment into supply they will suffer

[misty fossil]

i would put a heavy td in there as well

[worn cliff]

i improvised this absolutely beast template once and idk how i made it

[misty fossil]

because its funny

yea like that, perfect

[hard depot]

damn my infantry expert is gone

[misty fossil]

insane div name

[hard depot]

there goes good infantry potential

[worn cliff]

😂

how tf did i get so much breaktrough on my hspgs

[misty fossil]

show your tank

you can do something like this for your spg

(again reliability isnt important if you dont walk into attrition terrain like marshes or mountains)

[worn cliff]

holy shit

yea i need this

[misty fossil]

yeah

thats vanilla btw

[worn cliff]

no way

thats late tech no

[misty fossil]

just be sure to only fight on plains and hills

[worn cliff]

if u rush it u can get this by 41?

[misty fossil]

yeah you unlock heavy howi with 1942 arty

ofc

but ur ussr so be careful with what you research

i dont think speed is that important though ill have to try with 4kph tank builds

[worn cliff]

speed is cope

its gay

[hard depot]

Translate this in HOI4 terminology.

[misty fossil]

well scratch that it is important if you want to do circulation

[worn cliff]

how many of these do u pop out before barb

like full template with mech

[misty fossil]

if you research division designs for hoi4 you seriously should log off and ponder what you want to do in life

[misty fossil]

0

you build it after barb starts

maybe have some by late 42

[worn cliff]

fucj

[hard depot]

this is literally historical lol

[worn cliff]

ok nvm this is singleplayer temp

[misty fossil]

yeah guy who used that template was doing a full inf build in expert ai

[worn cliff]

expert ai u mean sheeps?

[misty fossil]

no

[worn cliff]

oh

i somehow got 40 of those before barb tho

[thick vector]

Why didn't Vichy France become my puppet state? Or was it like that? I forgot.

[worn cliff]

well i had like 450 mils

[misty fossil]

how

[worn cliff]

idk game is gay vichy should be a puppet

[worn cliff]

450 mils

as ger

[misty fossil]

crazy

oh ur ger

[worn cliff]

yes

[misty fossil]

i thought ur sov

lol

[worn cliff]

oh

no idk how to do eco as sov

[misty fossil]

ger is stronger yeah

[worn cliff]

i get like 300 mils at best

[misty fossil]

did you cap uk

[worn cliff]

no it was mp and rules say u have to control africa to sea lion

and my italy was shit they lost africa in a week so

[misty fossil]

oh mp

lmao

[worn cliff]

yea and i had no axis minors + soviets played roach and my inf shouldve been mech but wtv

dday wall was literally made out of 16w spanish 80% strength divisions

[misty fossil]

by roach you mean leaving tanks on every single tile?

damn

[thick vector]

I searched on the internet because I am currently using the La resistance DLC

[misty fossil]

yeah idk about mp its a whole other oyster

[worn cliff]

waited for me to move to encircle me

[misty fossil]

real

[worn cliff]

thats gay i didnt like it + im pretty sure he scorched

so my tanks were just there and we traded a few hundred k casualties before eventually dday happened a month later

i had to play endsieg in 41 lmfao