#hoi4-general
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Against AI they don't if you use cruiser subs or 1940 subs
You kill uk fleet with it, provided you're not in shallow sea
i had 2000 left over
Obviously early subs will die
it costs 3K for uk fleet alone
in the current version, sub visibility is messed up
late subs die easily too
(not the open beta, current live version)
when i play the game my subs dont die if they have under 14 visibility
Hoi4 bore me
paradox i paid alot of money for this game
remove the mods
what mods bro
yours
i dont use mods
that's what they wantyou to believe
guys i am playing as soviet and i cant annex the baltics bc the political paranoia is not active, what i can do
?
do the ultimatums through decisions (requires a focus first)
what focus?
gimme a sec
No: the politic paranoia is active
booting up the game
thanks
"Not : Political paranoia is active" means you have to finish the purges first
all of them?
which you should have by the time you even consider annexing the baltics (late 1938-1939)
yes
WHO IS BRO
paranoia must not appear in the decisions
holy canoly
under normal circumstances, purges should be done after 2 years and 4-5 months
April 1938 being the earliest and october 1938 being the latest you can reasonably get
840 days worth of focuses or waiting-to-be-able-to-select-focuses
i am on 5 of sep 1938 and i dont have the baltics yet
not really an issue, you'll need 75pp per decision anyway so start saving but still not having the purge done by now is worrying
Hello. How do I get rid of the Swiss Citizen Militias thing? How can I train an army as Sqitzerland?
do the focus for it
it's somewhere on the left of the focus tree iirc
There are so many dead ends in this focus tree that stops you completely for a weird reason or so
looking for it
How do I get this focus done? how does this guy get those traits?
likely linked to other focuses
T_T I really hate this tree. i cant find out where to get prerequisites
does anyone knows how to make a mod? i'd like to make one but don't have that skill and i also want someone to join my team
cannot find them anywhere
WHAT IS THIS FACTION BRO
French when they refuse to back down from German demands while UK does?
or maybe linked to a leader change
I will try that
lf people to play MD
TY! worked
I balkanised Spain.
I think I neutralised Spain as an opponent and the border's are clean.
which mod is that
RT56
Generals! @Hearts of Iron News
The time is soon upon you to defend the borders of Czechoslovakia with the upcoming release of Peace For Our Time, releasing April 22nd.
See you on the frontlines! šš» https://bit.ly/3PX4Hxo
They should have done the Aussie one on the 25th of April (with a New Zealand rework) for ANZAC day lol bht nah š
Fix the game fr
unexpected announcement jumpscare
Did I miss the content devblogs for PFOT?
Or am I expecting another GOE pack
I mean, i get them, only like 4-6 DLCs have good mechanics and after u buy them, the other ones are unnecesary since the mods add way more content every mod than the pace of paradox development i think
And DLCs are overpriced atleast in my region considering they are just for focus trees
They are making Czechoslovakia stronger than it already is āļøš
Nah, I hear it is a single focus trees for Czechoslovakia made by modders overseen by paradox but idk
Absolute peak
Wasn't the hoi4 czechoslovakia actually weaker than irl one or smth?
Itās paradoxās entire business model
So no
I heard some pple complain about it (?)
No dev blog
1 country dlc made by mod devs i think
Irl one submitted to Kitler, the in game one can 1v1 Germany even now
why do you guys shit so much on the new dlcs?
I'm looking forward to it ngl just bcs of monarch path
new hoi4 dlc real?
Although they kinda wasted the possibility of making resistance focus like Poland has
No, its a hoax /s
Wasn't it because of allied pressure or smth? It was said that the suddeteland forts would be good enough to actually resist and drain the german economy enough to peace out
Or so pple said in comments
Its on the store page š
what really is the point of releasing one new focus tree
Yes
It wouldn't matter if the forts are good bcs Poland would surely want to take territories too, Hungary would also step in to take felvidek back
So it was loss/loss situation
couldāve at least reworked yugo and romania a bit
There'll be dev diaries for it don't you worry
How much is the new Czechoslovakia dlc gonna cost?
Romanian focus tree needs a change ngl
yes, we need more focus trees
yeah itās not great is it
Make another death or dishonor type dlc
Oh I thought they would come before 8 days
we have a thirst for more focus trees real
I donāt even think romania or yugo need a proper new rework but a few touch ups would be nice
a bit like a remaster
another hoi4 dlc? Ive already spent 200$ on dlcs
Tbh If the new Czechoslovakia dlc gonna also cost 30 euros istg
paradox wants your money
thats why
thereās a great czechoslovakia mod anyway
Hello!
you can get it for free
Yeah I know I play that instead of the dlcs
hmm yes
paradox really wants your money i guess tho
I just pay the subscription anyway it feels a lot less awful losing like £25 every few months or whatever it is
than to actually buy all the dlc
yea and then I just forget about it
and it can be cancelled if you ever decide to open a window or something
we getting GTA6 before HOI5
Real
paradox try not to scam the community challenge
I think the best update for romania would be
That you can core some lands
And make a better industry tree
Like there's enough expansion in the current one but there's no new cores
hoi4 make a new game with all the dlcs for 60$ or say nothing
hoi4:
And the 70 days focuses are tragic
who doesn't love the allies to declare on you because the US don't like communists
All the dlcs cost like 200 something eurosš
If you add this new dlc it's gonna be even more
the soviet union will triumph over all reactionists donāt worry
Like I don't think I'm the only guy who thinks mods are better than some dlcs right?
every soviets game I have goes terribly because I forget to build up supply and airfields in siberia
just play TGWR
or because someone declares on my turkey puppet and drags every major in
Why are you fighting in siberia
great mod and needs no dlcs
japan
What's that
Oh
the great war redux
I mean if I play historical I donāt get the issue
ww1 mod
but historical is boring
devs are pricks
And this
removed all the fun from germany because muh realism
us italy players are suffering
also blatant communists Iām pretty sure
Or kaiserredux
Ewwwš¤®
Brother italy got a dlc only for them and switzerland wdym you're suffering
Yeah but it ain't much better
yeah thatās what I mean
dlc
political extremism is doodoo
Is it weird that Iāve never really liked playing major nations? Like Iāve played Italy a few times when learning the game but nothing bigger than that
Where are you from
England
Probably means that you like challenges
Or something that's harder
Oh cool
I like the sort of rising nations
I didnt want to pay another 10$ for a dlc just to play the most appealing country 
ones that can become majors
True
like china or canada (although default canada tree isnāt great)
Dlcs are too expensive
yeah
I'd say something here but I cant cause imma get banned
Yeah like theres a lot of countries that need a rework
Istg if they make like
One country rework it's own dlc
I donāt like Norway base game focus tree but the road to 56 one is quite nice
I like the Norway focus tree
I hate having to sit at 0% base stability to engage in my nations primary mechanic
I think the rt56 nordic countries have more fun but less content than the DLCs
so theres positives and negatives
Yeah
yeah Iāll be upset if this czech tree isnāt better than the mod
I also hope they added slovakia content at least
so they could technically call it 2 countries
Yep, the only DLCs I think are actually worth it are NSB, BBA and AAT
Yeah
All the other ones I cannot be bothered to buy
And gotendamerung is good
True
I think gƶtterdƤmmerung is probably the best DLC theyāve done
especially germany
all the paths are good
Yep
even the communist one
It's the best dlc in the game
There's 2 commie paths
1 fascist
1 kaiser
You can even get military dictatorship
Or get led by an admiral
Like they were cooking when they made that dlc
And the german civil war is easy af
Yet another cash grab has hit the game
one of my favourite history topics is the GDR so it did freak me out seeing walter ulbricht and otto grotewohl as possible leaders
got to say the volksunion mechanic is sort of pointless
annexing them I mean
Hmm
Idk
I've never played communist germany
Tho tbh I think the best ideology is fascism
In hoi4
its good fun although I tend to make the soviets go monarchist
because who the hell wants friends
Lol
most coldest take in hoi4 history
Didn't need to add this
You can justify
i am buying that czechoslovakia dlc the nanosecond it comes out š
Irl too
I do like democratic germany too which is a hard thing to admit
democratic china is alright too
Every germant path is good
Only becouse it shares focuses with monarchy
Is the "Peace for our time" Focus pack only gonna be for czechoslovakia
although the last time I played democratic china I couldnāt annex my warlord puppets because of an interfering mod I had
Yes.
Ok
i mean you could say that for the monarchist path too
WE are all playing the monarchy path first
But its way cooler
Firstly I gotta see how expensive the dlc is
monarchy has aura none of the other ideologies can compare to
10 i think
hi chatroom
Euros?
worst part of the germany tree is the flag change if you go social democracy
Hello
dollars
True
the adenauer path flag is so much nicer
hopefully the marines willl break through
But the best in general is fascism cause ear goals
PDX sells in EUR
War*
He lives in america
But still 10 dollars is pretty much 10 euros
Czechoslovakia will be ā¬6/6$
Not even close, its like 13-14
Dollars
bruh
YOOO
GOD BLESS PARADOX
šššš
yes and they sell in EUR there too, and its not adjusted by currency
atp play a mod
so it depends on EUR strenght
hello yalls
š„ŗ clearly you should buy 3 Czechoslovakia's at that price!
No bigger than usual free patch?
no it is, ive looked at steam things and its clear its cheaper in kazahkistan and brazil even if you convert
Good strategy if you use vpn i think
could buy an overpriced disgusting ācoffeeā from starbucks for that though so its clearly not worth it
I think there was a way to get cheaper games
shouldnt be afaik according to their policies
In my country I could buy mcdonals with that money
the benefits of a poor economy
Czechoslovakia>McDonalds
The benefits of romania
yeah
True
I mean mcdonaldās here isnāt that overpriced
7 days left
Like seriously Czechoslovakia was chill af
They broke up peacefully
No wars no nothing
(Ignore the soviet invasion)
That was shitty ahh communists
10 years and 5 weeks later.. best dlc in hoi4
fun fact the GDR didnāt participate in prague spring because the soviets thought germans entering czechoslovakia again might be received poorly
wait i think they changed it in january
cant wait for the PFOT
PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF ROMANIA KNOW OUR SHITTY COMMUNISM?
the romanians didnt even let soviets station any troops in romania
I study psychology and itās came up a few times in my life as a result
Yeah our leader hated the ussr
no wonder they didnt get half of the equipment they could get
He wanted to get independent from the ussr/warsaw pact
me when no MI24
Lol
well I do neuroscience at uni now mainly but the course still includes social psychology and whatnot
be like enver hoxha and leave
Kinda hard when the ussr is at your borderš
and romanian orphanages are an interesting study on the topic of child development
because uhh they sucked
real bad
Yeah
yeah ive ready about em too
lower iq development, attachment issues, language learning disabilities
guys what is this dlc omg is soo poor and the icons there like only 3 custom that they made and didnt re-used
aw
People were sometimes getting them from yugoslavia
did bohemia dlc get released
22nd of april
And going outside of the country was illegal
Without connections
š¤·āāļø most stuff already had a fitting icon
get ready for 50,000 videos leaching this one DLC
So pretty much in communist romania if you were caught having a condom you'd go to prison
beta?
And idk if you know
look at teh focus
damn
dlc
But those communist prisons
They were uhh
š I worked on it, Ive seen it
Not the most human friendly
its only that?
they could have made somethinf cool for the czech
I mean what other icons could they make
go raw or go home as they say
the focus tree? theres a lot more than that
lets hope

Plus ain't no one care that much about visuals of the focus tree
Only what it gives
i wanna see a strong czech
to be fair the tree looks like it just gives you the same wargoals more than once
Probably early stuff
lol massive encirclement
The dlc will probably be different
MH isnt that bulgarian socialist path?
the formable name and flag is reused yeh, but it works and how you get to it is new
Yeah ita also for bulgaria
Also since when tf is czechia balkan
some good new
s
its not yeh
Well
Hungary and Austria being called that is only because their overlord is
I can already guess this will be better than the bulgarian one
Cause more cores
we love bulgaria
Yeah
Cause puppet mechanics
They claim and they stole romanian territory so no
W bulgaria
take all dobruja in the world
Nah
yea yea
It's rightfully romanian
and pula
Hehehehehe
i cant wait to export arms
How will the export arms feature work
Is there like a dev diary showing stuff
what?
For the new dlc
thats what im asking also
Get ready for the 20th bittersteel germany guide even tho this is Czechoslovakia dlc
I just know the next ISP vid is gonna be about it or TFR
yea germany will need a guide cause czechoslovakia will be OP now trust
Cato and Cate
Yes
good times
Lore accurate RAF
whats raf
Royal airforce
British airforce during ww2
you mean they sucked?
i cant get over her bro
Cause the raf was very good
this is so unserious
oh ok
i might do a historical britain game
why is destroying the enemies airforce so satisfying
can somebody explain the point of armtracks? how are they better than mechanized?
Mechanized but for river crossings, straights, and amphibious landings
do they have overall better stats though?
Itās weaker than regular mechanized divisions
but don't they get buffs from special unit doctrines?
They certainly do on the lower left tract
hiii tails
Does the cruiser strategy for navy still work?
this is like my second or third time being a GP and def first time as fifth :3
portugal is so OP,,,,,,
The one where you get light cruisers with light attack to screen the cruisers with heavy attack
I wish I could still play Vic 3, but my laptop just isnāt at its specs for it
Relatable
cl spam?
torpedo is more efficient now
dd's torpedo preferably but you can do lc torpedo too if you really want
I can play early game, but everything after 1870 starts becoming 1 hour to get past a few years
Ok
Thx
Dang
I've never played vic 3
But my laptop lags on hoi4 so
Is vic 3 also like hoi4?
Cpu torture
yeahh :( game runs really poorly
how bad is it? I have whole tutorial to de lag hoi 4 to the sealing potential if you want
Eu5 has joined the chat
wow i love hearts of cpu 10
Can you send me that tutorial
alr bet gimme a second to find the message
you have a tutorial to delag hoi4?
Do all paradox games have the clausewitz engine?
send me that
My austria game is softlocked in 1487
Cause I lowkey hate that engine
Yup
That engine is just cpu hell
its paradox man what do you expect
Kills your cpu
they even removed the good naval ai
It needs to change for hoi5
Millennium Dawn unofficial becomes a mod that takes an hour to pass a year
millennium Lawg*
Hope's potato pc guide āØ
- Disable everything in settings except rivers and full resolution rendering. change resolution to 1366 fullschreen.
- You will always want to launch the exe file in directory so steam doesnt consume any of your ram (you can launch from steam when you want to get your achievements updated ). Download driver booster and memory reduct (both free) restart your pc.
- Start with launching memory redux and clear your ram (go in settings and turn the auto cleaning ram after 96% of ram usage. You can exit that now. Go to driver booster and turn the turbo mode on, exit it. Now launch hoi 4 exe from directory.
- Once the menu is loaded go to task manager, click hoi4 go to details, change priority to high, exit task manager and go back to hoi4. Before you start your actual game (iron mode to get achievements) start a random game without achievements so you can access console, type: debug_smooth. You can exit that playthrough and go back to your main one with iron mode since this command stays until you leave the whole game.
- Having too many saves also may impact your perfomance so if you know you are not going back to that saved playthrough delete it. Download fps map mod, it works with iron mode too.
- Deleting your old equipment type from stockpile (old type of guns, tanks, etc.) will also help with the lag.
Uniting the Balkans would be the first 4th world country and civil war speed run
Regardless of how good your laptop/desktop is
If I play past 1945 as the usa in hoi4 it takes like 1 hour to pass 1 year
It took me 7 HOURS TO GET THEB1948 ACHIEVMENTš
My brother pc is so FUCMING bad
Pretty much
Like 1 hour is once second
This needs to be pinned
A 70 day focus is like a year on my pc
can we have a step by step guide im not reading allat
im incapable
of reading actually
idk what im typing rn
I havenāt had that issue for post 1945 games
Dyslexic?
Total 70-day focus Destruction
im so close to ragequitting man
hearts of ragebait 4
time to take on the soviets
Well then you hafe a better pc
green bubbles
i cant win with whatever country i wanna play with
every 1 in 10000 chance for a naval invasion during war
Peak
it's as step by step as I could make it
xD
hello yalls

c'mon im playing easiest dificulty and understand how navy w orks at 40 hour mark
but i cant win
also why do i have to launch it in the directory can't i just task manager steam overlay and steam itself
im gonna export a LOT of arms as USA
Peak
literally the united states
How will the export arms future work tho
Cause we already have lend lease and international market
hope we have enough planes
Understand navy like this?
international market relies on like the AI WANTING to buy
export arms is like okay this will happen for CERTAIN and won't be intercepted
Do you make planes @tired tendon
Ahh
Planes are very important
Ok
i can see the carrier
ill export arms to others As Estonia aswell
No, in general
If he ignores cas its the reason hes losing
Tho planes are very easy to make ngl
if you have enough ram yes but this guide is for like bottom potato pc's
If you have the by blood alone dlc
Im talking about that kind of pc's that can only have 3gb for hoi 4
i have 2
is that better
Go steal some
you should be able to get 3gb with ease with that guide, hopefully
If you're romanian you get +10% stealing speed buff
also wont debug_smooth make the game's fps look awful
but it runs atleast
from what i understand
yes but we want maximum in game clock speed
or thats the goal at least for me
90 years for 5 days in hoi4
is 2026
any not historical game after 41
I was eating brownies then I took a shit and I got this brown bit on my hand and idk if itās brownie or shit
Do I eat it
Itās still vanilla
what year is this bro
1020
eaw be damned br
wait wdym by 1020
doesn't eaw start in 1000
20 years
should i export arms as USA
alr
God damn that's a hot navy
if im producing a LOT Of arms as usa then ill do it
ill do it historical
just give my allies a lot of arms
1007
80 carriers with all of them having max naval bombers no diffs fleet
So by this time, itās early Cold War jets, MBTs
Equestria at War
alr
escalation 84
The my little pony one?
Itās not Escalation 84
im gonna export a LOT of arms to ALLIES faction
Yes
basically im doing it historical
ts hearts of iron 4
EaW has late game tech borrowed from Road to 56 and Extended Tech Tree 1960
Dlc beggingš¤
yep
most of my Economy and industry will go to cover the material cost of ww2
Cool
i merge them into wings and bomb uk
wow i LOOOOVE dlcs
just like IRL
but i lose planes to ships in 30 to 1 ratio
Spending 200 euros on dlcs is SOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOD
And base game 50 euros
Makes it even better
are you uk or itay
What kind of planes
99 trillion usd for a singular expansion pack for a paradox game in the near future
Italy spamming light cruisers
Like Escalation 84 just brings Cold War Humans to Equestria. Soviet Union, USA, European Union
you know that if they could they would do that rn
Send your plane designs
i use them mainly to break through uk, so CAS or sea bombers
is this a good tank?
Send designs
What about fighters?
like infantry destroyer
havent got dlc for that
this too
No hard attack?
England has alot of fighters
prob inf destroyer
This is good for fighting soviets
Cause they send millions of men
im playing uk rn
im playing germany
everyone's sayinh its the easiest country
Cause germany doesn't have only infantry
and ik what they mean
You have more responsibility as germany
everything before uk invasion is easy
conquering poland
sweden
denmark
norway
everything is easy ag
af
max hard attack no soft attack bouta be lit
but uk just stalls me so long that us joins the war which is instalose for me
how do you suggest i do that
theres literally
Yeah when I started playing the game that's the exact mistake I was making and then I was wondering why i was dying
ig
Change the canon
Put the canon instead of the howitzer
I thin that's how you get hard attack
actually quick question is going over 80 for reliability worth it?
I personally don't think it is
Unless you're fighting in siberia or some shit
but its easier i think still, you got a ton of snowball focuses allowing you to get like 400 factories quickly
I think reliability only matters when attritioning
So if you have supply you shouldn't worry about reliability
my supply is always red because i alone consume 800% of supply
Damn
and also because every single time i buff the ai they always get max air
hello yalls
Uhhh
Hello
kirby quick question
as USA im gonna sell export give licenses and lend lease to allies faction
Do you count better as in more numbers or as in quality?
Cause if it's numbers it's possible
80 trillion planes, thousands of boats
and endless amount of divisions they can freely lose because
Depends on the quality
If they're shitty yeah
what if they are good
It'll be like fighting the soviets
sheep ai + better ai + 3x cas damage mod (works universally)
good idea ?
I'd kms
Yes
since im gonna produce a LOT of stuff As usa
Lol
ill sell a lot of stuff off
okay so what do i actually do in this situation
because the allies and axis are in an endless naval war
and an endless air war
when 2 people fight the 3rd one wins
atleast japan hasn't touched me yet they are very busy in china
Just wait for them to kill eachoter
While you build up
Then jump in the war to kill everyone
Join the war
i have 2 fill divisions of infantry and 9 spec rangers
Hm
Oh
how much stuff should i export and sell as USA?
like IF i have millions of techs and equipments
btw how did you do this
Good kriegsmarine
is czechoslovakia the only new thing in the dlc?
i love czechoslovakia only dlc
lets ignore the problems
in the previous update
and just spam as many dlcs to distract them
what problems
naval ai still being garbage
ok well I enjoy the game idk
1.16 ai was like very aggressive when using boats
new dlcs releases on my birthday even wooow
can someone answer
We all love paradox
All hail paradox
All hail sweden
if you want to sell stuff on the market, just do it
alr
im blaming the country of kaliningrad
chat how tf do i white peace france we havent interacted in a year
you dont
meh
you cry to germany
italy wont declare war until 1942
because its stupid
alr
You don't
That's the fun in paradox games
Will the tweak the french tree in the new patch like not a rework but give it more 35 day focuses
its either you install the toolpack mod
Light cruisers, light cruisers, light cruisers
and wp urself
Did you mean to say kƶningsberg
or cry urself to sleep
are they rly that strong?
tamy strikes again
who is THAAT
well well well
tamy
she has too much power
Basic maths, light attack blows up their screens and the starting battleships finish the rest
idk how to get ukraine to look good
cuz i dont want to give it too much
china
what did you do
not all, only ones i dont have leaders for rn
Choland*
give them more ig
make a belarusion protectorate and give ukraine more
lost 2nd balkan war and got bessarabia from russia in ww1
Ahh
I see you're doing kaiserreich map?
for some reason yugo gets banat in this screen but when i load in it goes to austria š
buggy ahh game
And thatās the map of our modern day world, the history we all know and love. Or at least, what we apparently wish it was. This is āThe Most Cliche Map Possibleā by TheMexicanHistorian on Reddit.
However, I thought that it would be fun to try to lay out a timeline of events for the world this map takes place in, which I have done with thi...
im gonna sell Millions of techs and equipments as USA
chinese united polish front
guys how do i get rangers
special forces
what is the stongest tank division template?
hmm
for singleplayer?
yes
ig my elites are gonna be mountaineers
and no step back?
no
Can you send for no step back
yea i only have that one
iirc you cant even edit tanks without nsb
i have ALL dlcs and expansions
Do you have the template for the spa
Artilerjia
its spg
this is kinda the optimal one, just get the most soft attack really
Those are just space marines
wdym
self propelled gun
no?
thats self propelled anti air
Ahh
also btw what does SPAA even DO
Shoot down planes
Idk
the reason for anti air is to shoot down planes
Isn't building planes better than building spaa?
Or nah
is making a full division filled with spaa
good
for anti-air
not really
of course
It needs mechanised
y
cavalry works fine
it disgusts me how ungrateful this community is
They're giving feedback
and the rest werent at all
the community just says what they think
guys stop being negative against the huge greedy corpo
pr team is the community receiving a good update
no
we need to strike down paradox
they deserve sucking out as much as they can from the community guys
i never said paradox wasnt greedy, but their high prices are nothing new
we need to blame the people running hoi4 paradox dev team
they are rushing these dlcs like nun
True
oh my god bruh
It's a paradox
and for some reason people only now have a problem with it
not the hoi4 leading devs
5 years ago the dlc were much more underwhelming and mundane
the people forcing the leading devs
They can't make a new game without it having 20 dlcs
"blame the devs that are working hard not the corpo suits rushing them for profit"
to create such stupid
Costing 200 euros in total
decisions
and people were completely fine with prices
gee, as if they didnt launch sales every 2 months or so
Its getting worse, each new dlc is more broken than the last
the hidden gun barrel behind their heads
Why do h have ur hours in ur username
update*
because the dlcs at least kinda deserved it
as well
Great flex ig
nah, it adds more features and metaheads are crying because their entire strategy has gone to shit
i have 2k hours on hoi4 my mental state is very good
really?
five hundredth time ive been asked this question, i just saw someone like that when i first joined and thought it was standard
I have 1k and I dream achtung
la resistance is probably one of the worst dlcs content wise
im not mad at the new features im mad at how bad they are implementing it
and yet people were fine with paying 20 bucks
Was the graveyard of empires totally balanced with no exploits at launch
top ten worst takes imaginable
i love graveyard of bumpires
ill give you that one, it was half baked at start
give me afghanistan with issues please
but after 10s of patches it became playable
Useless without collab govs
goetterdaemmerung which only costs 5 bucks more has 3x as many features
some of the most fun focus trees in the entire game
"useless"
France? Fun?
hes talking bout the spy mechanic
Spain is NOT fun
which is like indeed not good
bec they take to long to be significant
except collab
i should have never added a discussion in the damn hoi4 discord
all focus trees there are small and basic
and nearly all icons are generic
Bruh
im sorry but in no world is la resistance better than any modern expansion
whos slandering the france slander tree
any expansion that followed was in some way better
Graveyard of empires?
hes comparing GOE and LR
That's like comparing a hydrogen bomb and a coughing baby
yeah ik
the most fun path is only like 10 focuses
notice how i said expansion
not dlc
you cant compare an expansion with a dlc, obviously an expansion has more content
an expansion with a country pack*
just say its an expansion pack
play hoi4 modded
the only thing espionage is useful for is collab governments, avoiding germany annexing sudetenland as austria hungary and achievements
The best tree parts on Italy are available without the DLC too
im sorry but if espionage released today paradox would get cancelled
Oh cool
The thing is
That dlc was released in like
2021?
202?
2022?
Idk
were ignoring the part how real modders outside of paradox partook in the creation of this focus pack
so there might be some real potential here
2022-2023
so you yourself admit that its not comparable to modern quality
2020
i feel like the espionage mechanic coulda done better if it's days were reduced and the amount of intel you have like 70% civ intel boosts sabotages related to civ
good, so we do agree that goetterdaemmerung and ncns are better than la resistance
when are they fixing the naval ai
is it not working?
I would say the espionage can be pretty useful even beyond collab
