hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

true

[cedar coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1277697858501611652/1416712060896673844/togif.gif

[lilac ginkgo]

the romana invented sunglasses

romans

wow

[upbeat tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/young-sheldon-george-george-cooper-ai-gif-6820393542880540058

[cedar coral]

greece

[lilac ginkgo]

his gif brocacho

ok its greece

is it

they are romans

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/foxclaw-hoongoon-3

[cedar coral]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-eminem-slug-snail-eminem-slug-gif-15090535226065927673

[upbeat tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/house-robert

[lilac ginkgo]

there was some guy wearing glasses next to the colloseum right around 100 bc

he aint greek

[upbeat tundra]

bro why does yt keep feeding me us propaganda army recruitment ads

[cedar coral]

damn is 🎉 😂

[lilac ginkgo]

they need you to die in iran

you know too much

[upbeat tundra]

fair enough

[icy egret]

Use Toolpack and you get transfer tool and puppet tool.

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah but its glitched with some mods so I use transfer tools only cause it works with 99% of mods

[icy egret]

Personally I forego player led cause I have to babysit the ai and divide up the world too many ways, I’ll just use state transfer for the 10% of the peace deal that breaks

[lilac ginkgo]

I just want the borders to look good

[lilac ginkgo]

yes

[gentle cloak]

Guys what’s better

Super heavy better ships

Or advanced heavy ship

Or should I use both

[lilac ginkgo]

clearly none of the above

[upbeat tundra]

SHBS might be the most useless thing

anything with SH in the name is useless imo

[lilac ginkgo]

super heavy tanks

my beloved

[upbeat tundra]

uselesssss

2 manufactured a year

[gentle cloak]

Talking to me?

[lilac ginkgo]

Whos stopping me from using them

[lilac ginkgo]

yes

[gentle cloak]

So I shouldn’t use neither super heavy or advanced heavy?

[lilac ginkgo]

not if you ve got 150 mils on them

[upbeat tundra]

porche bc u keep stealing their mechanics to fix the transmission

[icy egret]

SHBS is awesome cause it’s peak larp.

[upbeat tundra]

anyways ai did THIS
once

[lilac ginkgo]

im gonna use ford then

[lilac ginkgo]

thats not the worst ive seen

[cedar coral]

feudal germany is back

[upbeat tundra]

what could be worse..

[icy egret]

yeah exactly just forget player led peace deal, Toolpack or state transfer all the way

[lilac ginkgo]

I dont think I can find the screenshot

[cedar coral]

one time afghanistan somehow anenxed canada

[upbeat tundra]

erstaz checloslovakia

[lilac ginkgo]

but I was playing kx and the allies killed communist usa that was still in a civilwar but almost won so then then almost each us state was annexed by Canada and France randomly and then in the middle of nowhere Texas had a province

[wicked haven]

Well I defeated the axis with the help of Stalin, can the PayPal states solo the allies?

[upbeat tundra]

btw that is silesia

[lilac ginkgo]

oh and Alaska owned San Francisco

[wicked haven]

Italy has so little manpower

[cedar coral]

greater silesia

[upbeat tundra]

this section is just HRE

[lilac ginkgo]

how did it get to this point

[upbeat tundra]

no idea

[lilac ginkgo]

Its a fake screenshot eitherway

I can easily tell

[upbeat tundra]

chaos mod (s)

[lilac ginkgo]

first of all romania only looks like that up until 1937 so a year after that its a kingdom

[gentle cloak]

@lilac ginkgo can u help me with navy designs lol

[lilac ginkgo]

how does Germany die like that in a year or less

[upbeat tundra]

it got ideology changed

[lilac ginkgo]

I hate the navy but maybe just ask anyone that likes it

[upbeat tundra]

c h a o s m o d s

[lilac ginkgo]

I like cruisers probably?Im no expert

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

so its still manufactured artificially

[upbeat tundra]

this happened in one of my vanilal hoi4 games tho

[stoic pendant]

whats chaos, and what is a mod?

[upbeat tundra]

randomly manufactured artificially

[lilac ginkgo]

thats kx right

[upbeat tundra]

nope

just went oppose hitler

and made reichspakt faction name

[lilac ginkgo]

killing Russia isnt that hard

[upbeat tundra]

im not referring to that...

this was AFTER the peace

one of my allies kept trying to liberate some parts of it

[lilac ginkgo]

thats around where Stalin was born so he kept his motherland

[upbeat tundra]

i guess lol

[lilac ginkgo]

thats perfectly understandable let a man rule his kingdom

[upbeat tundra]

this was the germany i finished

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

why didn't you continue

you still need half of europe

and also learn from your mistakes never call your allies into a war you can easily win alone

it just gives you a bigger front

[upbeat tundra]

they got called into by the enemy iirc

this was a funny game i had

they just kept going at my fort line

[lilac ginkgo]

so all you did was nothing

[upbeat tundra]

nah i afked for 30 minutes then capitulated them

[lilac ginkgo]

so you did nothing(for 30 minutes) and then invaded them

[upbeat tundra]

i ate dinner for 30 minutes

and came home and invaded them

it was supposed to be paused lol

[lilac ginkgo]

I

alright

[upbeat tundra]

this was uhh

quite humorous

[lilac ginkgo]

clearly

[upbeat tundra]

this europe was the most primed for 3 way war that ive ever gotten

pact vs reich vs 4th

[lilac ginkgo]

Italy is just a speedbumper

and the soviets are even worse

[upbeat tundra]

idk i dont rmb the result of that game

[lilac ginkgo]

alright

I might just maybe give up on hoi4

my pc cant make it past 1944 in vanilla

so that sucks

[upbeat tundra]

what specs do you have bro?

[gentle cloak]

Is this a good modern strategic bomber design?

[lilac ginkgo]

or well it can but it takes 1000 years

[lilac ginkgo]

rtx4060 32gb of ram and a 12th gen Intel i5

[upbeat tundra]

okay bro HOW

[lilac ginkgo]

how what

[upbeat tundra]

that isnt possible

[lilac ginkgo]

it runs but slowly and its capped at like 18fps

[gentle cloak]

@lilac ginkgo

[upbeat tundra]

my gaming laptop has worse specs and it can make it over at about 60 fps

[lilac ginkgo]

???

[upbeat tundra]

do you have a ton of background tasks?

[lilac ginkgo]

not really I reset my pc a while ago and its the same

yesterday I was playing kx and it was running at 18fps in 1940

[upbeat tundra]

that shouldnt be possible...

which i5? the 10 core one or the other

[lilac ginkgo]

I did the american civilwar and won it but it took me 3 whole hours

[lilac ginkgo]

Let me check

[upbeat tundra]

multicore seems to matter for hoi4

[lilac ginkgo]

6 cores

its the 12400f

[upbeat tundra]

hdmi plugged into the gpu or motherboard

[lilac ginkgo]

gpu

I play other games just fine

[upbeat tundra]

yo brolie kirk HOW

[lilac ginkgo]

I can run like rdr2 for example in like 80fps constantly with everything almost on max

and its good good graphics

[upbeat tundra]

my gaming laptop has a 5070m a 10 core i7 and 16 gb of ram and it chugs it at 60 fps

[lilac ginkgo]

i7 is better

and a 5070 also slaps my 4060

[upbeat tundra]

5070 LAPtop

which is about the same as a 2070 desktop

[lilac ginkgo]

honestly I didnt pay that much for my pc it was decent price and it went up in price by like 30% cuz of ram

[lilac ginkgo]

well is it because I've got the graphics ingame on max

honestly I had similar performance on my old pc that had a 10 year old i3 on it and no gpu

but I had it all on low

and some mods wouldnt run

[tulip thorn]

Its not about the same

Its better

[upbeat tundra]

idk it was some form of 2070

2070 super maybe

[lilac ginkgo]

for example I can play tfr until the mod ends like the third European war or something like that and only then it lags

[tulip thorn]

Not really

[upbeat tundra]

source?

[tulip thorn]

Literally everything else I could find online

[upbeat tundra]

im curious

[lilac ginkgo]

but hoi4 gets capped at around 18fps for me no matter the mod I play depending on ghe year

[upbeat tundra]

well then you would have no trouble linking it(?)

[tulip thorn]

The only place comparing a 5070 laptop to 2070 desktop is some tech youtuber

[upbeat tundra]

oh @lilac ginkgo are you on 1440p or 1080p

[lilac ginkgo]

honestly my guy even if its a laptop 5070 its like 5 years newer tech

[lilac ginkgo]

1080 probably

200hz

[upbeat tundra]

3 yrs

[lilac ginkgo]

still newer

and a whole lot better

even then I dont think its my pc

[upbeat tundra]

techpowerup is some tech youtuber?

[lilac ginkgo]

my cpu cant handle all the divisions and stuff there is so it caps itself in 18fps so it doesnt explode

[tulip thorn]

Yes

[upbeat tundra]

yeah ok bro

wtv u say

[tulip thorn]

5070 laptop is 4090 bro

[upbeat tundra]

as most paradox games are id assume it uses multicore

[upbeat tundra]

nahh u wrong its blackwell 6000

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah probably and I've got 6 of those

[upbeat tundra]

city skylines 2 would be a fun experience for you

[tulip thorn]

5070 laptop is actually better than 5090

[lilac ginkgo]

I can run it

I tried

it works fine

[upbeat tundra]

large city?

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[upbeat tundra]

mhm

[lilac ginkgo]

but yeah I get the point

still 99% of games run fine but then hoi4 hates me

[upbeat tundra]

i mean ive seen cs2 sweat my threadripper

its used the most cores ive seen a single program use

60 cores...

[lilac ginkgo]

I run it at about 200fps but ive got my fps capped cause then my cpu runs at like 50% less usage

thats how it goes for most gamea

games

I cap it at how much i see it can do and my cpu usage goes down

its just hoi4 that sucks

[upbeat tundra]

this is my settings for my laptop

[lilac ginkgo]

also that explains why you run it that good

Isn't 60 cores alot

[upbeat tundra]

my laptop has 10

[lilac ginkgo]

same

[upbeat tundra]

i run it off my main pc which has a 3990x threadripper with 64 cores

512gb of ddr4 ecc memory

2x 3090tis

[lilac ginkgo]

Holy hell

[lilac ginkgo]

thats

[upbeat tundra]

and 1x 4090d 48gb

[lilac ginkgo]

are you high

[upbeat tundra]

just got really good deals

[lilac ginkgo]

I dont belive any of the shit you re telling me

[upbeat tundra]

the ram was my dads university was clearing out workstations so i was able to harvest 512 gb from old xeon machines using ddr4 ecc

[lilac ginkgo]

bro has 4 gpus and 512 gb of ram

[upbeat tundra]

3

[lilac ginkgo]

that doesnt make it better

[upbeat tundra]

and u dont have to

[lilac ginkgo]

no one would

trust me

[upbeat tundra]

anyways most of the stuff i got was either gifts or stuff my father's university was clearing

[lilac ginkgo]

and why would you use 10 year old ram sticks when you ve got 3 gpus

[upbeat tundra]

bc 2 of the 3 gpus came from those same workstations also they were only about 5 years or so old

[lilac ginkgo]

so they had rtx in those

where are you from

are you from dubai

[upbeat tundra]

china

[lilac ginkgo]

ni hao or some shit

[upbeat tundra]

my dads university was clearing out xeon workstations from 2020 ish for more centeralized servers

[lilac ginkgo]

but I aint still gonna belive it

[upbeat tundra]

ok

[lilac ginkgo]

you home

[upbeat tundra]

and so i took advantage

[lilac ginkgo]

so you stole expensive shit from him

[upbeat tundra]

he gave em to me

3 workstations

[lilac ginkgo]

show me your pc bro

that shit is probably not even that good for gaming

[upbeat tundra]

its not lol

gaming needs single core

[upbeat tundra]

and if i can find where my phone is

[lilac ginkgo]

you re talking to me

arent you

[upbeat tundra]

back to more hoi4

[lilac ginkgo]

great so you re just a low tier ragebaiter

[upbeat tundra]

okay does anyone know the acess code or whatever for hoi4 1.10.1

[upbeat tundra]

no?

i mean if u think i am u can block me lol

[lilac ginkgo]

why would I

I personally dont give a shit

<@&846894118219022336> hi

maybe i shouldn't have done that but maybe someone will fall for it

[upbeat tundra]

geniunely who is falling for this

[lilac ginkgo]

trust me

out of the thousands of people in this discord

[upbeat tundra]

but anyone know the acess code for 1.10.1

[lilac ginkgo]

there will be a victim

[upbeat tundra]

fair enough

[lilac ginkgo]

I was a victim

of a scam

[icy egret]

EaW did not need to go this hard on the country select screen, every country has it's own map and icons showing it off

Same with the animated falling snow

[upbeat tundra]

wth

this is better than like 90 percent of mods ive seen

[icy egret]

Hell each continent gets its own screen on its own

[upbeat tundra]

thats crazy

[upbeat tundra]

ig u can tell when a project is for passion

[fair horizon]

Play changelings

[icy egret]

I’ve done nothing but play Changelings for two months now I am tired

[knotty grove]

@ripe slate wake up, free speech aint gonna repress itself

[tulip thorn]

How I feel after playing italy for the 100th time

New dlc comes out:
Play italy several times

[tulip thorn]

This server isnt a democracy bro

[tulip thorn]

I was just about to say the same thing

[knotty grove]

Fym?

[tulip thorn]

What do you think

[lilac ginkgo]

adolf hitler

we know its cooked

[candid forge]

Well..

[knotty grove]

How does that even happen?

[candid forge]

American Save Our Sons policy

aka Intervention

[knotty grove]

Is that in a mod? I havnt played US in a long time

[candid forge]

Germany got Rheinland challenge met and still stronger than normal

[candid forge]

RT56, but vanilla has it too

but RT56 is better for this interventionist US part

it good for quick war eco / war support is the world really going to burn

[knotty grove]

Damn, i totaly forgot that path existed

[candid forge]

german factory

French Factory 🥀

[knotty grove]

How the hell do you have more civs than germany😭

[candid forge]

He got Rheinland Challenge Met and uh

[knotty grove]

WHAT THE HELL IS THAT

[candid forge]

I'm too late to do French Union since I have to be at peace, if everyone accept then you gain everything as a core

[spare field]

https://tenor.com/view/romania-steal-wallet-theft-thief-gif-8041312967434273256

[candid forge]

Imagine African countries got release to do generic industry focus and you integrate it back as a core

You'll be richer than USA 🥀

but im too late to now

[knotty grove]

True

[candid forge]

This gave you massive boost of pp and stability

[small panther]

They can refuse

[candid forge]

while releasing puppet and you can just do focus to integrate it back if they accept

[candid forge]

usually they wont, except for indochina

[knotty grove]

Should i play rt56?

[candid forge]

yes

[knotty grove]

Ok

[small panther]

Even syria will accept ?

[candid forge]

but RT56, if they refuse it said it gonna become indepedent but they wont, they're still your puppets afterall

[candid forge]

Syria got release as free

not puppet

[small panther]

Yea so they refuse too

Only African colony accept

[candid forge]

they're not even a puppet since beginning

[small panther]

Syria ? They are

[candid forge]

if you do vienot agreement path it wont

[candid forge]

it's.. rt56

RT56 France is owner of Syria not a puppet since beginning of the game somehow

[small panther]

Ohh ok i speak about the vanilla game 😅

[knotty grove]

Have yall played TFR yet?

[candid forge]

not for a long time

[knotty grove]

Bro i wanted to get fehlinger, but i forgot i had the fascist guy(i forgot his name) in power so i had to do 2 restarts, cuz i forgot to change the preset

[sharp sierra]

the fart rises

[knotty grove]

Im crine😭 😭 😭

[upbeat tundra]

the fiftieth reich (hitler got ressurected 46 times)

[knotty grove]

Lemme guess, hell get beaten another 50 times

[upbeat tundra]

the foot rises

[knotty grove]

Ur not him bro

[upbeat tundra]

if being him is ur power what are u without it

[knotty grove]

Ur not socrates either😭 😭

[upbeat tundra]

if the man calls out another man who do we thank?

https://klipy.com/gifs/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-2

[low dock]

Loyalty to the le fuhrer!

[quiet mesa]

just got into hoi recently and am I the only one who feels like hoi doesnt take overwhelming force into consideration enough?

every person ive talked to about it just says its a supply issue or sum but ive had a single division hold off 6 supplied divisions and it just feels a little bit like overwhelming force isnt a factor in battles.

[atomic grove]

division templates exist you know

[misty fossil]

it does actually

[terse skiff]

yeah and terrain, air, espionage, general qualities etc. all matter

[misty fossil]

like if ur divisions are good enough one division can solo entire stacks and win

i dont like the tactic roll chance system tbh

[quiet mesa]

Dang, ok i didnt know some of that thanks, i was wondering why some divisions just seemed unpushable, makes sense

[misty fossil]

like wdym generals have a set % of selecting breakthrough and you can increase it by making it his/her preferred tactic

thats not how it works

i know its tricky to simulate somebody's line of thought but come on

[quiet mesa]

Thanks for the answer tho m8

[misty fossil]

👍

[candid forge]

https://tenor.com/view/klaus-schwab-world-economic-forum-are-you-ready-for-ze-new-world-order-gif-10128008594896647137

[quiet mesa]

First non toxic answer ive gotten to that thought

[candid forge]

he's not fascist, he's globalist schizo

[misty fossil]

supply is also a thing

same with equipment quality and troop quality

(look at what happened in iraq)

[quiet mesa]

Yeah, my units were supplied during it, prob the template that was the issue

Im not good at making templates yet so im still tryna get more into that and out of the “more divisions the better” mindset

[terse skiff]

Templates are overrated

[quiet mesa]

Are they?

[terse skiff]

Industry and production is 80% of the game

[misty fossil]

i wouldnt use the word overrated

[terse skiff]

Templates is at most 2% once you stop making shit templates

[misty fossil]

every decision you make is like a link in a chain

your country is only as strong as its weakest link

[quiet mesa]

I love focusing on economy in hoi

[terse skiff]

The difference between signal and hospital supports in your 36w offense division is minimal

[misty fossil]

the humble 12 support company mod

[terse skiff]

Like tbh once you learn that line art sucks and that you need balance between armor and inf in offensive divisions and use assault engineers and flame tanks for offensive divisions, what else is there to do in templates?

[quiet mesa]

Whats the main thing to focus on learning for a beginner?

[misty fossil]

slow down

[terse skiff]

You have like a choice of 5-6 supports in 3 slots

[misty fossil]

dont play to play, play to learn

so spend 3-4 days on each save

pause often

use your brain to put 2 and 2 together and see what works in what scenario

read tooltips more often

[quiet mesa]

Gotcha thanks

[misty fossil]

go go gadget super tank division

[oak mantle]

what mod is that twin

[misty fossil]

equestria at war

and better mechanics division designer

and ridiculous unit cons

icons

[dusky burrow]

combat width reduction for tanks and mech lmao

[noble echo]

Wdym you're supposed to play to play, it's not a uni

[misty fossil]

knowing how stuff works makes playing less frustrating

[noble echo]

It's not that serious

[misty fossil]

eaw's advanced blitzkrieg (tier 2 doctrine) lowers tank cw iirc

[misty fossil]

do you know navy

[noble echo]

No

[misty fossil]

figured

[dusky burrow]

i see

[upper merlin]

I guess I have the big iq guys.

Somehow I got that visual code “hearts of iron utility “ stuff working . Aka, I have a pseudo editor to make a custom mod with.

Kinda thinking the ultimate Great War mod… even more amazing one day than redux

Starts back in 1897, has 4 tech tree eras that change after a specific year… ends in 1928

Start so far back you can slap Wilhelm for trying to intimidate the royal navy and tell him Germans don’t do boats, they do field guns , and focus on thagt

Ya know?

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/neko-atsume-cat-kitty-neko-atsume-vr-speech-bubble-gif-25743386

[upper merlin]

:3

[misty fossil]

TRUE

[dusky burrow]

lmao

that'd basically be retaliation for germans not liking the boer war though

[upper merlin]

Again playing in the literal late Victorian age in a game like hoi4… is a vibe. We already kinda know how it feels in rise of nations and end of a new beginning. Issue is that those mods try to include way too long a timespan

Which causes lag and stuff

[dusky burrow]

but technically you can do that in hoi4

[upper merlin]

This mod… ok, has a long timeline but not unsustainably so lag wise.

… 31 years is … kinda long (1897-1928)

…. However

The others try to do 100+ years

This may actually be doable

[upper merlin]

Perhaps. Oh the Boer war, that’s going to be fun for any Brit playing expecting Victorian British to be at her peak

Which it is

But they’d foolishly assume

No annoying Victorian Vietnam is starting

@dusky burrow I think we can agree the second Boer war was the Victorian Vietnam

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

Fighting the Boer war and Germany at the same time would be oof

400 thousand imperial soldiers in south africa

[upper merlin]

I think irl Germany really did nearly start a colonial war with Britain when it was caught sending Boers supplies

[upper merlin]

It’s weird to think espeixlalt way back then, Wilhelm would effectively be bullying his grandmother or intimidating her

By doing anything to slight britian

Because Victoria really was his grandmother

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[upper merlin]

I wonder what sort of modifiers England would have in 1897. I mean that was literally ultra mega prime, Victorian golden age right there..

I feel like it may have a modifier where its navy is super op… but dockyard capacity has become complacent and slower, due to pride

This may change with the Anglo-German naval race

[dusky burrow]

it sort of goes both ways though because germany only did the naval arms race because it felt threatened by britain in the wake of the boer war diplomatic fallout

before then germany and the uk were low on each other's list of targets

[candid forge]

hm

[fair horizon]

Yeah but Chrissy

[heavy vigil]

me

[dusky burrow]

casey don't fall for it

noooooo

[heavy vigil]

i follow the instructions every time free money is given out by mr beast and the other dude

thats how i make a living

[wide osprey]

wdym free money

[grave sonnet]

Bro it's mrbeast

He gives free moneyz

Trust I got money

[wide osprey]

oh really

i want money
especially for free

where can i get my free money

[prisma steppe]

this mod is such fire

[strong raptor]

Name?

[ember vine]

How to waste more of your time: turn hoi4 into war thunder without tactical perspective in battle

[hollow silo]

black ice be like

[wide osprey]

• • • • • • • • 10 10 L/25 BO G A 300 10 10 10 10 10 10

🙂

[cedar lance]

hello yalls

[slim nexus]

Hello friend your arrival make me very excite fill my heart with heavy joy

[lethal ether]

what map mod r u using

[candid forge]

TFR

[cedar lance]

alr

[slim nexus]

Yes marky very nice

[cedar lance]

alr

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/llhlg-raccoon-box-hide-discover-gif-19144751

[cedar lance]

hello casey

[slim nexus]

Your box pet is very impressive and successful

[cedar lance]

im bored

[ivory kelp]

7 mill only

[cedar lance]

should i keep playing Mostly Estonia?

[slim nexus]

Ahh Estonia you pick tiny nation big dreams, very brave

[cedar lance]

alr

i like it

becus im from Estonia born and raised

@slim nexus

[slim nexus]

Everything coming up you big success

[static creek]

The centeral powers are attacking me as italy from Italian occupied austria!

[ivory kelp]

poor italy

[obsidian sigil]

what is punitive action mean

for sheeps mod

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

ai punishes you if you try to do althist cheese on hist

try taking romania and turkiye as ussr

[digital aurora]

I wonder if its better to have hundreds of divisions along the border as the soviets or create several back to back lines using fallback lines

[wide osprey]

D N I E P E R

[lost dawn]

File is too large

[atomic grove]

send it to me via google drive in dms

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/marrochi-film-gif-4854246507857272981

W

<@&846894118219022336>

[lost dawn]

Not to offend you... but does that not show you the name of my mailadress?

[atomic grove]

i think so

[lost dawn]

Also. What is better for Italy: Inventive Leadership or Theatre Training?

Or should I just go with bold attack

[atomic grove]

bold

[lost dawn]

Suppose that mailadress is my full legal name...

[atomic grove]

then dont use that email

use a diff one

[lost dawn]

I would need to make one

[atomic grove]

u could do that

[lost dawn]

Also

Should I just disband the irregulars?

Since I can't really edit the templates....

But I would not get the equipment and manpower back.

[atomic grove]

use them as port garrisons

[lost dawn]

And what should I use for the navy? Instilled aggression or go with grandfleet

[digital aurora]

I wish there was a way i could make divisions of just pure artillery that can be used to support offensives

[lost dawn]

I wish there was a way to use chemical weapons during your HOI IV campaigns.

[ivory hull]

ig thats just support artillery

[lost dawn]

Are they seriously doing this again?

I just know this will end up with them stealing Yugo from me

and then declaring war on me

[gentle cloak]

Is anyone here good at navy

[quick hare]

is kylian mbappe on any hoi4 mod as a brutal dictator

[ivory hull]

what is your army setup

[ivory hull]

only a mbappe petain mod

[lost dawn]

I like to larp with the national colours

I have a single army group for my infantry divisions (for now) and an army group for all specialized armies like mountaineers and tanks

[late valley]

D.K.M was truly the leader of the bolshivek revolution

[heavy vigil]

lets be mindful of the #server-rules and not post modern/controversial politicians, please :)

[late valley]

Its a meme😭

What does a football player have to do with politics

[heavy vigil]

some of them seemed like politicians to me, sorry if i wrongly deleted it

[ivory hull]

try only specializing on one kind of offensive unit

[late valley]

No its fine the meme is he is basically a dictator in his football club

[lost dawn]

I would like to work with tanks and use the mountaineers that I start the game with as defensive units for small frontlines

[ivory hull]

the starting template for both is pretty bad

[lost dawn]

but I am a poor designer of tank templates

[lost dawn]

I know

I improved the tanks slightly

but will not stick to light tanks

[ivory hull]

this is very bad

[lost dawn]

it is much better than what the unit looked like

[wide osprey]

sir...

[ivory hull]

do you have no step back?

[lost dawn]

but true.. I do need to add more motorized

I just do not have the army experience for it now

[lost dawn]

Yes

and I also need to add support companies

[ivory hull]

use this

[lost dawn]

but those are also army exp heavy

[lost dawn]

I do not like cheesy tank design

[ivory hull]

cheesy?

its not like space marines or anything

just the best

[lost dawn]

Pure self propelled artillery? No thanks.

I want proper medium tanks

[wide osprey]

motorized division
66% consist of tanks
🥀

[ivory hull]

spgs are still proper medium tanks

[lost dawn]

Nuh uh

Are SPGs even true tanks?

[ivory hull]

its not a motorized division tho?

[ivory hull]

yes of course?

[ivory hull]

bro thats just the name

holy

[wide osprey]

why name tank division motorized😭

[lost dawn]

Can you send me a template with some normal medium tanks please

[ivory hull]

just dont make them spg then

otherwise your just nerfing yourself

the howitzer gun is just the best gun for singleplayer

you just want the maximum amount of soft attack for singleplayer

[lost dawn]

You can use the howitzer gun or normal medium tanks anyways I think

[ivory hull]

yes

its just 45% less soft attack on normal mediums

[lost dawn]

So I need to make heavily armoured medium tanks and less armoured self propelled artillery?

[ivory hull]

not much armor

you dont really need armor

[heavy vigil]

https://klipy.com/gifs/essica-monthly-19

[lost dawn]

Should I keep producing armoured cars?

I never really know how to use them

[ivory hull]

not really

[ivory hull]

then why produce them

[lost dawn]

Because you can sell them

[ivory hull]

ig

[ivory kelp]

mustve been the wind ahh kill count

[misty fossil]

Real

[lost dawn]

Btw

I love building many 10 width divisions to hold the ports, towns, supply hubs and airfield

They are cheap and, with the right support companies, able to keep the enemy from taking the tile while I move up proper infantry divisions that I station nearby

[ivory hull]

you only need that on ports

but the rest is useless

the ai doesnt paradrop

[lost dawn]

I also like looking at a nation with many units scattered around

[ivory hull]

then thats just you wasting units and equipment

[lost dawn]

Really gives you the sense that there are, infact, garrison troops in cities and towns

Perhaps.

[lost dawn]

I just like the look at this

[ivory hull]

just know its useless tho

[lost dawn]

Well. Except for the port garrisons

Those are usefull

[ivory hull]

yea

[lost dawn]

Especially if you play as Italy

Also

What should my marines look like?

[lost dawn]

I am guessing this is fine for now

I can always improve upon it later

[ivory hull]

this is pretty bad

[lost dawn]

Then what

[gentle cloak]

Guys is there a way for me to make more oil? I’m running out of oil and im buying oil from everyone and its still not enough

[lethal ether]

build

[ivory hull]

get oil techs if you dont have them alr

[lost dawn]

What are those tree icons

[ivory hull]

rangers

[lost dawn]

How do I get them

[gentle cloak]

Build what

[ivory hull]

same as with marines/mountaineers

[hidden crystal]

whats a goated div for singleplayer

[ivory hull]

research them

[lethal ether]

Synthetics

[lethal ether]

the

[noble echo]

Land cruiser

[gentle cloak]

I thought they provide rubber

[late valley]

theres horrible and there is this

[hidden crystal]

land cruiser is post 1944 😔

[ivory hull]

this with cas

[lost dawn]

No need to insult me like this

[late valley]

sorry

[hidden crystal]

alr bet

[lost dawn]

?

[ivory hull]

like research them in the research tree

[late valley]

if the width was lower this would have been really good

[ivory hull]

this is really good wdym

[lost dawn]

[late valley]

how many hours do u have at hoi 4

[lost dawn]

WHERE

[ivory hull]

uhh either scroll down or theyre dlc exclusive

[late valley]

Ik but like if the width was lower like a cherry on top

[digital aurora]

Medium flamethrower tanks for a infantry div, why not light flame tanks?

[lethal ether]

they also give fuel

[lost dawn]

You are going to mock me. Aren't you?

[ivory hull]

36w is literally goated so its still good

[ivory hull]

light flame tanks are worse than medium

[late valley]

no not really i just wanna compare it

[lost dawn]

I have 2.200 hours.

[late valley]

Damn thats nice

[gentle cloak]

I just started constructing them on cities with oil

Is that the right way

[lethal ether]

you need dlc

[lethal ether]

u can anywhere

[lost dawn]

In case you did not believe me

[ivory hull]

@lost dawn just use mountaineers if you dont have rangers

[lost dawn]

I need myself some marines

[gentle cloak]

So I get fuel anywhere I build it?

[lost dawn]

Which one?

[ivory hull]

just use the template i send, just replace the rangers with mountaineers

[gentle cloak]

@lethal ether

[late valley]

arms against tyranny i think

[lost dawn]

How many?

[ivory hull]

like divisions?

[lost dawn]

What combat width should I go for

[ivory hull]

36

[lost dawn]

is there a smaller version that will work?

Also. I do not yet have any of the experimental facilities

[late valley]

ur templates are really good how many hours do u have in this game

[ivory hull]

most will work but 36w is the best for offense

[lost dawn]

how about 18?

[ivory hull]

3.5k but most templates i have just copied

[lost dawn]

and upgrade it from there

[ivory hull]

for the start itll work, just aim for 36w

[lost dawn]

Also

[late valley]

whats ur fav mod

[lost dawn]

Should my inf just be a block of 18 width Infantry units?

[ivory hull]

kaiserredux and north america divided

[ivory hull]

yes with support artillery and maybe engineers

[late valley]

north america divided is so gd

[gentle cloak]

Do you gain fuel anywhere you build synthetic refineries on?

[ivory hull]

yea you get fuel from refineries

[late valley]

what country u playing as

[gentle cloak]

third rome

[thorn zodiac]

Guys which mod is better? "Generic focus tree" or "Road to 56"?

[late valley]

preparing for war?

[noble echo]

I imagine it's a nightmare to move divisions through this huge territory

[gentle cloak]

I might get into a huge war.

[late valley]

with the allies

?

[gentle cloak]

Hahaha not really when u have 100% infrastructure on every single city and max level railways

[thorn zodiac]

Guys which mod is better? "Generic focus tree" or "Road to 56"?

[noble echo]

I don't know

[late valley]

road to 56

[gentle cloak]

And ur infantry speed is 12km/h

[noble echo]

Mechanized?

[gentle cloak]

Yes

[noble echo]

No cheats?

[late valley]

ur def prepared for the allies yo

yk

[gentle cloak]

No, it’s just 1956

[gentle cloak]

I am the allies

[thorn zodiac]

I don't love u

[noble echo]

Damn you're definitely prepped

[late valley]

Oh

[noble echo]

I love you ❤️😘🤟💖

[thorn zodiac]

I'm 74

[gentle cloak]

Not really “allies”. Something just like it but different name. It’s called “triple entente”

I’m leading the faction bc im the strongest

[noble echo]

I'm gonna get you pregnant🫃

[late valley]

who ru gonna get in war with

[gentle cloak]

Well the U.S., France, Spain, Italy, India and other countries left the faction

They didn’t create new factions tho

I think they just want to stay neutral and not get involved in faction wars

Idk

But I get in a small war every now and then

[late valley]

finish off france italy spain first then consolidate a bit attack india then attack usa

[gentle cloak]

Like the UK just justified on Iran

That’s another small war

[late valley]

basically irl usa

[gentle cloak]

I’m non-aligned, I can’t justify war low world tension

It’s 0% rn

[late valley]

bru alr damn

[gentle cloak]

I only have 400 hours in hoi4

So im playing a long game to learn some stuff

Like this is my first time making jets, making good designs, fixing eco issues, fixing recourses issues, diplomacy

My first time making nukes too

[late valley]

ever played a mod?

[lethal ether]

yes

[late valley]

do one more game like this

[gentle cloak]

I have 60 nukes now and I used to have 70 but I fired them on some small country I got in war with for fun

[gentle cloak]

Yes

Millennium

Once

[late valley]

Trust me 2-3 long games then play kaisereich

[gentle cloak]

I played as Egypt and it took me 3 tries until i succeeded

[late valley]

lmao

[gentle cloak]

What mod is that

[misty fossil]

67

[gentle cloak]

🫩

[late valley]

an alt time line where germany won ww 1 britian and france had syndicalist revolutions and are now communist

[gentle cloak]

I think if germany won WWI, France wouldn’t even exist

[late valley]

why not?

[gentle cloak]

So germany wouldn’t annex France?

[gentle cloak]

No not really

I don’t have a navy

Which is the most critical thing in late game

[late valley]

no

[gentle cloak]

I tried finding someone helping me with designs but I didn’t

and I don’t wanna waste my time making stupid designs

[lethal ether]

it doesnt work like that, different nationalities exist, they would revolt and it would become really unstable

[gentle cloak]

I literally have 220 available dockyards so I’m definitely ready to make the navy now

[late valley]

I dont think he knows how warfare goverment annexation works but its fine i used to be like that too

[gentle cloak]

Is this a good design for a super heavy battle ship?

[ivory kelp]

so youre telling me THIS is 1m manpower+300k in field

[ivory kelp]

id say good but i would switch the seaplane for another heavy battery

[gentle cloak]

I only have this battery

Oh wait there are batteries

For the other slots

[ivory kelp]

yes super heavy battery

[gentle cloak]

The other battery is the secondary battery

[ivory kelp]

top row: super heavy battery x4, dual purpose seconday battery x 3

[coarse hull]

the swedish navy

[gentle cloak]

Is the fleet submarine the best?

[heavy vigil]

what for

[gentle cloak]

Torpedo

[ivory kelp]

submarines are broken in this update

they get instant detected

dont use em yet

[blazing nova]

How the heck does navy work now in the new update

I can’t just

Assign my ships to an area and they do their thing

I do it the “old way” n they just do nuthin, 0 dominance or control

No green light or red colour

Odd

[ivory kelp]

honest question

does anyone know where this island is

or has even seen/invaded it

[tired reef]

its the norwegian one ?

[ivory kelp]

damn

[heavy vigil]

jan mayen

[ivory kelp]

damn

[heavy vigil]

jan mayen is also a tag

its a nation

[ivory kelp]

oh

[heavy vigil]

it has a leader with the most OP leader trait

[ivory kelp]

someone do world conquest w it

[heavy vigil]

try doing add_core [state] JAN

and release them

its an event tied to wojtek so its rlly hard to get

[ivory kelp]

...

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[ivory kelp]

so they have no civs

cus consumer goods

[heavy vigil]

you get 500 weekly from leader

people

[ivory kelp]

leader.

not army corps

[heavy vigil]

hes OP

[ivory kelp]

are the devs this bored

[heavy vigil]

polarizing leader trait

[gentle cloak]

Is this a good design for advance cruiser?

[ivory kelp]

i was about to say the denmark one was trash

but it gave 2.5% req pop

[ivory kelp]

i do 4 light/heavy batteries + 1 depth charge

use fire control systems instead of sonars

and you dont rlly need that much armor

just play however you want tho

if you want to roleplay just go with anything you feel is nice

[ivory kelp]

italy rn

(they have all core states)

[gentle cloak]

Now?

[iron iron]

Is there any way for me to get manpower if I can’t change conscription

[safe wing]

Cores ig

Or go communist

[ivory kelp]

should work fine but still use fire control systems instead of sonars (better hit chance)

[safe wing]

For the free 500 mp per week

[ivory kelp]

isnt it 500

[iron iron]

I’m not no stupid commie

[ivory kelp]

then only cores i think

[safe wing]

Okay who are you playing as and what path

[gentle cloak]

What do u think of my destroyer

[little compass]

Expensive

[ivory kelp]

too expensive

[gentle cloak]

Dw about that, I can afford it

[lilac ginkgo]

annex india

or china

[gentle cloak]

I literally have 210 empty dockyards

lol

[ivory kelp]

they are kind of meant to be meat shields

but stacking light attack on em if you have the ic is fine

chat what do i do now

how should i push

[noble echo]

Is it possible to get Himmler as Führer?

[atomic grove]

kinda

[ivory kelp]

technically

[atomic grove]

himmler can be leader of the german reich in the german civil war in the oppose hitler path

but u cant play as himmler led germany normally

u gotta use commands

[little compass]

I think you can through the inner circle

[atomic grove]

oh right

i forgot about that

[little compass]

If all inner circle spots are filled and they all complete their focuses

[atomic grove]

yeah

[ivory kelp]

😭

[atomic grove]

ik that

[little compass]

You get the event that says to change the thing

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/arting-siamese-cat-gigachad-ambatukam-ambasing-gif-26293326

[little compass]

Yeah

[ivory kelp]

wheres the strength bar

i cant see it

[little compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364713803819913312/1419289008957292624/attachment.gif

[static creek]

Is it possible I can talk to an mod?

[atomic grove]

theres one here rn

[lilac ginkgo]

is it

I can help probably

[ivory kelp]

so where do i push now ;-;

should i clear the eastern front or take uk out first

(im denmark/country occupying germany)

[atomic grove]

invade sweden

and norway

cap em

take the northern swedish mines and repair them

and put forced labor on those 2 states

[ivory kelp]

peak naval gameplay

[ivory kelp]

kk

[atomic grove]

after that take france, then italy

[ivory kelp]

||italy has no manpower||

so maybe somewhere else

[atomic grove]

destroy them

alps might be hard to push so if u cant push into italy after france then js naval invade genoa

and tuscany

[ivory kelp]

what in the english channel ;-;

[eternal aspen]

so, according to the colonelcam vid from 2hr ago (7am EDT) GWR is actually enjoyable now and isn't a LARPer's wet dream?

when did they actually make the mod fun again?

[atomic grove]

greece

[eternal aspen]

greece was never fun

[atomic grove]

gwr greece is peak

[eternal aspen]

ww1 is literally just hand your land over to france, and say thank you zaddy

[atomic grove]

have u tried it yet

[eternal aspen]

yh

did the whole konstantine split and all

[atomic grove]

im kinda sad they removed some of the althist paths though

[atomic grove]

ok

[eternal aspen]

yh, all bc it wasn't "realistic"

[atomic grove]

fun for me though

[eternal aspen]

but yet, bulgaria winning 2nd balkan isn't realistic, but serbia annexing AH is?

[atomic grove]

serbia can do that??

[eternal aspen]

yea

[atomic grove]

how

[eternal aspen]

large yugoslavia path

[atomic grove]

oh

[eternal aspen]

you get the ability to release galicia

[atomic grove]

lmao

[eternal aspen]

and that sets AH at war with you, and thus russia

without german intervention

[atomic grove]

they let yugoslavia form a truly hugoslavia but not let germany form hre

[eternal aspen]

exactly

and they call it fun, tbf ww1 is shyte regardless, it's a muddy, bloody, hellish slog

[atomic grove]

ive only played germany twice and greece once on that mod, and those 2 are the only countries i played

[eternal aspen]

but it's still fun in the sense of sitting on the same borders for 3 years until zaddy USA intercepts zimmerman and ruins the immersion by sending the whole of FDR's new deal Military Industry into europe

[eternal aspen]

for me it was bulgaria and china

bulgaria before losing all their alt-hist was so fun

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[eternal aspen]

winning balkan2 was such a challenge, and rewarded you for having fun doing so

[heavy vigil]

(10 minute late response)

[eternal aspen]

ni-howdy Casey

[atomic grove]

what did althist bulgaria have

[heavy vigil]

dont say the n word

shaking my head at you right now

[eternal aspen]

nihao and howdy in a fusion word?

[heavy vigil]

disappointed

[eternal aspen]

casey rn: smh my head

[eternal aspen]

i can't remember, i'm running off baked beans and nicotine

the true britton lifestyle

[atomic grove]

did it have its own byzantium path or like third empire bs

[lethal ether]

why are some dlcs more expensive than the game

[eternal aspen]

3rd empire

[eternal aspen]

content

[atomic grove]

oh

[heavy vigil]

its a dlc pack with multiple dlc

[eternal aspen]

base hoi4 now has several dlc integrated, and most DLC releasing don't get independant price tags until the whole pack is released

[atomic grove]

hoi4 without dlcs is like an arcade with no games

[eternal aspen]

i believe as a way to grab even more money from us

[heavy vigil]

id buy hoi4 if it was a boardgame

would be better

[eternal aspen]

it is.. innit?

[heavy vigil]

its a video game on the computer

[atomic grove]

idk how itd work

[lethal ether]

really?

[eternal aspen]

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/254928/hearts-of-iron-the-board-game

[heavy vigil]

same

[eternal aspen]

hoi4 the bored game]

[heavy vigil]

lets not talk about this topic 😭 #server-rules

[atomic grove]

oh

[eternal aspen]

it's hell is what it is

everything is tbh

[atomic grove]

yeah

[eternal aspen]

got outa bed this morning bc the birds were too loud, and i also didn't sleep whatsoever

and decided to just... exist

[lethal ether]

🙏

[eternal aspen]

just stood infront of my minifridge and doomscrolled for 20 minutes before realizing i exist in the material plane

ffs, i couldn't sleep bc hiccups, and i got them back now that i smell weed, idk what my body is telling me but i ain't listening

mah thinker be running a mile a minute and it's too much for 9am

anyways cya later gangygansters

[heavy vigil]

drugs do that, or disassociation in general

stay safe and dont reveal anything too compromising in public spaces; some people want to take advantage of your weaknesses (temporary or permanent)

id recommend eating and drinking a bit and then going to just lay down and calm down

[eternal aspen]

that made no sense ngl

that was like, prolly more random that i be

[heavy vigil]

just like, dont out naything that could harm you

people evil

[ripe slate]

Id take his kidney ngl /s

[eternal aspen]

i wouldn't

ion drink enough water, i'm surprised they work ngl

[eternal aspen]

i plan to smoke a fat bowl in my backyard then play some ASE

900p looks the exact same as 1080p ngl

also hear me out, DPRK under a communist in hoi4 should hve Kim Il Sung as the leader for historical reasoning

also they should have gotten content with NCNS for post-ww2 like how some countries have a shred of stuff to do from 1945 to 1948 when vanilla ends

or well, 1949 ig?

[heavy vigil]

already does

[fervent minnow]

hello hoi4 community

can somebody help me with good naval desgins for mp

[molten forge]

Someone has graveyard of empires?

Mind if I try a nation in the dlc in MP?

[eternal aspen]

really? damn that really says smth about me as a hoi4 player who mained PRC from 1.13 to 1.17

[eternal aspen]

it'd take me like, 10ish minutes to finish what i'm smoking and to get myself smth to eat, but unless someone else offers before i'm done then gladly

[molten forge]

Oooo alright, if you want I can offer a nation from the dlc battle of the Bosporus or Le resistance if you dont have those

[ivory kelp]

what are the british fleets doing bruh

im the only enemy they are fighting

[eternal aspen]

unofrtunately, i do have all the currently available DLC up to the end of this expansion pass

lady luck blessed me right before i had no money

[molten forge]

That's nice to hear, subscription?

[molten forge]

Lady luck???

[eternal aspen]

bought the expansion passes when they dropped, and bought the dlc i was missing when WTT became free, i regret getting MTG

[eternal aspen]

an expression primarily

[molten forge]

Oooooh

[molten forge]

Ooooo got the game a while ago

And honestly I love it but I still suck

[eternal aspen]

i too suck, and have almost 3k hours

well, just over 2k, i thought i had 2.3 last i actually double checked

[molten forge]

350 hours

[eternal aspen]

you'll get there sooner than later

anyways this bowl gotta be puffed without passing, brb

[molten forge]

Of course man, ima play Greece until then

[eternal aspen]

alright, good luck with that

[ivory kelp]

i think i did it

[atomic grove]

how tf does romania have 180 divs

[ivory kelp]

its divisions from different contries with same icon stacked together

they still arent doing anything

[iron iron]

I luv France

[ivory kelp]

modern france or medival france

[iron iron]

Hoi4 France

Napoleon

[ivory kelp]

fair

[iron iron]

Modern France is terrible