hoi4-general

[heavy vigil]

game goes on

[vital cove]

only if you kill your enemies

[eternal aspen]

navy is really, really, REALLY easy

[heavy vigil]

also that

[eternal aspen]

wanna know the secret?

[twin escarp]

how then

[eternal aspen]

wikipedia

just use historical ships

for some reason rn they're super OP

but that's just because the naval dominance points

[high vector]

ngl china might be a good one for you, they have infinite manpower so you won't have to worry about losing to japan and then you have a bunch of land to make missiles with

[heavy vigil]

the issue is the last time i played brasil the game forced me to invade the uk and i gave up at invading the ussr because of terrible frontlines

because i kept getting forced into wars

[eternal aspen]

and historical designs work pretty well, especially against AI

[high vector]

also i think china probably gets some boosts to missile tech in their tree

[heavy vigil]

sis i am not scared of losing

[high vector]

in their newest dlc

[heavy vigil]

its like really hard to lose as anyone if you prepare reasonably

[worn cliff]

😭 😭

my spgs somehow made it trough

[eternal aspen]

the germans have like... no industry

[worn cliff]

this is decent to push infantry stacks

[high vector]

china is still a good one cuz they have alot of resources i think

[eternal aspen]

you shouldn't have an issue ngl

[vital cove]

how did you get forced into wars

[heavy vigil]

i declared war on bolivia

they joined like the allies with the EUA and UK and whatever

and then at some point i got into a war with the USSR

[vital cove]

oh

[high vector]

france is also a good one, they have all kinds of resources in their colonies

[worn cliff]

?

[high vector]

to make whatever you want

[heavy vigil]

and it was just a bad experience

i mean i won the naval war and invaded uk and europe

but yk

[high vector]

i got quite bored with the brazil path

s

[heavy vigil]

the frontlines in europe were so bad i crashed out

[heavy vigil]

theyre so OP tho

and at least you get wars

that arent like, horribly boring

[high vector]

yeah they're good i just wish there was a better like subjugation system

[heavy vigil]

annex

[high vector]

like if u could install ur relatives to the thrones of the puppeted south american nations

instead of just forming south america

[heavy vigil]

i never puppet south america

because its rlly bad

[high vector]

but the lore

[heavy vigil]

you already struggle on resources when uniting its just worse when puppeting

play mapuche chile

they do that

they get all this stuff about native states

[high vector]

ic

[heavy vigil]

maybe i should try the franco chilean path sometime

havent done it before

[eternal aspen]

are you germany or soviet union? also this cannot be true

[eternal aspen]

only way it could be, is if this is wrong, and it can't be as they'd show the same values

[heavy vigil]

maybe i do need to try the chile paths

[worn cliff]

russian republic

[honest hollow]

is there a mod to automate ship design for navy

whenever i play navy thats always the most tedious part

[heavy vigil]

i remember why ive never touched chile

chat im an idiot

[uncut pollen]

Why do you say that?

[lost dawn]

I have encountered some setbacks... but I believe in final victory

Rome will be restored.

[keen pebble]

everytime im trying to use the annex command right now and all it does is delete all my units and end the war

what do i do

is there a way i can get rid of stalins paranoia?

[dusky burrow]

the us has only lost 38 troops but is partially capitulated lmao

[surreal urchin]

i have a quick question

can i upgrade my outdated navy(already build a ships but need to upgrade them without producing a new one)

[old echo]

What are peoples' thoughts on Bulgaria? I've done Italy and Romania so far, but I've heard good things about the Bulgarian focus tree added in Battle for the Bosphorous. Is Bulgaria fun, would you say?

[woeful knoll]

you can replace parts but not hulls

its generally not advised to refit stuff like engines though

[foggy scaffold]

Oof man france needs a rework so bad

[woeful knoll]

bulgaria is a pretty good focus tree

where you turn into a regional power

its not insane and its pretty old but its good and fun

[old echo]

Well, I'm not looking for broken builds or anything - low-scale Balkan dominance sounds just about right for me.

[surreal urchin]

so i cant upgrade my basic carrier to improved carrier?

[woeful knoll]

no, but you could upgrade the radar 1 to radar 2 for example

[surreal urchin]

hmm

[foggy scaffold]

Oh yea so some minor nations have a bigger focus tree than france though.

[surreal urchin]

intersting

[cedar coral]

holy casualties

[foggy scaffold]

I wish france britain and the US had bigger and better focus trees 🫤

[woeful knoll]

pretty sure the congo focus tree is bigger then france lmao

[cedar coral]

they prolly redo the focuses soon

[foggy scaffold]

Pretty sure it is.

Very sure

[foggy scaffold]

Id hope after the 2 new ones

Hope..

[woeful knoll]

after asia theatre i would expect MAYBE a usa dlc to top things off then hoi5

[foggy scaffold]

" major power reworks " idek

[woeful knoll]

paradox is currently doing a new game cycle

so i expect hoi4 to be the last one to be replaced

i dont think france or uk will get a rework

[cedar coral]

my theory is that they deleted the MtG dlc to make another usa uk and the other countries focuses

[foggy scaffold]

Id really want them to.

They're boring.

[woeful knoll]

mtg wasnt deleted

it was integrated

[woeful knoll]

well eu4 ended with a big all round dlc that updated like every single cool country

i think they might do the same with hoi4

[foggy scaffold]

What'd hoi5 be.

[woeful knoll]

"World at war DLC" With new focuses for france, uk, and usa and other minors like netherlands

[woeful knoll]

Hoi4 but with
Cartoony 3d models
A bright cartoony map
Automation buttons for everything

And a broken economic system

[old echo]

Luxembourg unique focus tree when

[foggy scaffold]

Belgium and the Dutch have 2

1"

Only fair

[woeful knoll]

tannu tava deserves one more imo

and mongolia

[foggy scaffold]

I have said both of those some times

[winter fulcrum]

it would be going back intime and being one of the countries leaders

[foggy scaffold]

And some others

Hold on

Hold on hold on

[woeful knoll]

what?

[foggy scaffold]

HAS no one thought about Syria Lebanon Jordan Saudi Arabia etc?

What about those.

[winter fulcrum]

yeah, like you load up the game and then you get sent back in time and you get to pick which leader to be

thats gonna be hoi5

[woeful knoll]

all of them besides like saudi were added in GOE for like the iraq focus tree or something

they serve 0 purpose besides lag generation

they def wont get any content

[woeful knoll]

like mount and blade but with hitler?

idk what you mean bro

[foggy scaffold]

So who deserves focus trees the most.

[winter fulcrum]

kinda

[woeful knoll]

are you ragebaiting?

[winter fulcrum]

so like you go back in time, and you pick the leader you want to be, and then you become that leader

thats gonna be hoi5 trust

[winter fulcrum]

not ragebaiting

[oak pebble]

anyone know why I cant push to save the life of me?

[uncut pollen]

@heavy vigil r u okay?

[winter fulcrum]

bc of the attrition

they have like no supply

[foggy scaffold]

God id love if france the Uk and america got reworks though man

[winter fulcrum]

they are BEGGING for more supply

[foggy scaffold]

Majors but boring to play

[oak pebble]

I'm ass at the game how do i fix that

obvs I have a port but do I just take half of the divisions out

[winter fulcrum]

omfg i keep trying to load up mods but every time i load up the paradox launcher i just start the game 😭

[winter fulcrum]

yes

[oak pebble]

thanks appreciate it

[winter fulcrum]

np

[heavy vigil]

huh

[woeful knoll]

you have no supply

you have wayyy to manny divisons

like those tanks need to go

[foggy scaffold]

Hm

[woeful knoll]

get naval invasion tech and do a big invasion

[eternal aspen]

Want a strat?

[woeful knoll]

idk why your doing 2 tile invasions for d day

[eternal aspen]

Go into a non Ironman world, design your ships, tanks, and planes ahead of time and save them, that way you can just copy from the template you made before

[uncut pollen]

#hoi4-general message

[eternal aspen]

And it works too because you can try it on the AI to know if it works

[winter fulcrum]

i think they managed to get a second tile during it

[woeful knoll]

1 tile d day invason

😭

[eternal aspen]

Crap I shld make a guide for how to make good templates for the DLC vehicle things

And how to prepare ahead of time

[winter fulcrum]

bro

they literally said they are new to the game

[eternal aspen]

Its fine if they are bad, its called learning

They may suck so bad everyone tells them to quit

But theyll at least learn how to fix some mistakes

[woeful knoll]

What new player makes in to 43 with custom mechanized divisons

and amtracs

[eternal aspen]

A decent player maybe? Idk

[woeful knoll]

i dotn get how someone can know tanks but doesnt know how to naval invade for the life of them

[eternal aspen]

If its a mech div with tanks, thats just a tank player

[winter fulcrum]

genuienly just cant let people have fun

[winter fulcrum]

tanks and naval invasions are two different things

[eternal aspen]

Bro genuinely chill, like youre getting pressed off someone not knowing a relatively complex part of the game

[woeful knoll]

but naval invasions are basic knowlege

[winter fulcrum]

also dont js assume they have no step back

[winter fulcrum]

no not really

[woeful knoll]

its not complex to right click the green tiles

[eternal aspen]

Compared to vehicle designs, naval invasions are insanely hard

[winter fulcrum]

people learn different things at different paces

[oak pebble]

nah I got ganked and that was all I had left

[winter fulcrum]

like for me i learned most ground stuff before going onto navy

[woeful knoll]

ok that makes sense

[winter fulcrum]

deepwoken?

[woeful knoll]

u should probaly delete the divs

[foggy scaffold]

Ion play PC but hoi4 fr made me be able to type fast and do stuff fast

Thanks HOI I guess omao

Lmaoo

[eternal aspen]

How many hours you got?

[woeful knoll]

HOI4 doesnt use the keyboard mate

[foggy scaffold]

Idk that.

[eternal aspen]

Yes it does

[foggy scaffold]

It does.

[eternal aspen]

Check steam

Q through to O have keyboards for tab, add shift, control, or both, and you get even more

[woeful knoll]

am i crazy for only using mouse

[eternal aspen]

S is half units, h is halt, backspace is jump to capital

[woeful knoll]

in parsadox games

[eternal aspen]

Yes, very

Thats like, borderline sociopath levels of crazy lmao

[surreal urchin]

nah thats normal

[eternal aspen]

But to each their own ngl

[winter fulcrum]

i use mouse for some things and keyboard for other things

[eternal aspen]

I find keybinds faster, and thus more stimulating, like rn im typing on phone so far I nearly broke my thumb catching it bc I hit the B too hard

[foggy scaffold]

Well at least HOI got me to actually be able to do things fast

So i guess what works, works.

Hey wait

Oh well

I can already type fast on console

It makes no difference

[eternal aspen]

lmao true

console typing is... hard

to say the least

[foggy scaffold]

Well

After doing it for like over 10 years

[eternal aspen]

it's very simple, but to do it fast is insanely cool

[winter fulcrum]

oh crap guys... i might be cooked

[foggy scaffold]

I can do it as fast asf

Weirdly..

[woven gate]

i'm an australia main now

[eternal aspen]

i've been using an xbox ince like, 2009, and i'm genuinely still horrid at it

[woven gate]

please aussies let me into your country i'm a nice guy and i can work on cars

[foggy scaffold]

O

Idk why i can type fast on xbox

Idek

[oak pebble]

ibr i serial template copy

[eternal aspen]

as an aussie native descendant, I do not accept you entering our great confederation for one fact, we need more truck mechanics at this point (idk i live in canada)

[cold frigate]

what dlc should i get? ( I got no step back and it was ok)

[eternal aspen]

MTG or BBA

[cold frigate]

can u say the names

[ripe slate]

MtG doesnt exist anymore

[eternal aspen]

oh yea, MTG is integrated

[ripe slate]

Can you get the starter edition without buying the base game again?

[cold frigate]

whats mtg

[eternal aspen]

Man The Guns

it was the DLC for UK, USA, and Mexico

[cold frigate]

starter addition/

[ripe slate]

LaR and BftB arent the greatest DLC but if theyre cheap in the starter edition Id say why not

[ripe slate]

General Edition ig

[eternal aspen]

LaR is nice, but By Blood Alone is better

[ripe slate]

Id say BBA is my least fav DLC

possibly

[eternal aspen]

i only reccomend it for the plane designer

[cold frigate]

yeah its 60$

[eternal aspen]

but tbf, it kinda could be better aside from that

[ripe slate]

nvm then

[cold frigate]

i got HOI 4 for 15$ on a sale

so i didnt get any packages

[foggy scaffold]

Would it be crazy if you could get HOI4 on the next xbox.

[heavy vigil]

oh im fine i just cant read

[foggy scaffold]

[eternal aspen]

not really

it was on gamepass at one point in 2020

[foggy scaffold]

What

[eternal aspen]

yea, idk if it was xbox too, or PC exclusive

[foggy scaffold]

Well as the next xbox is being a

PC console thing idefk

Maybe

[eternal aspen]

it might have it

who knows

since technically it's a combination of steam and microsoft

[foggy scaffold]

Id lowkey love it

Being a xbox nerd and whatever

Idk how expensive itd be though

[cold frigate]

so what do i get'

[oak pebble]

wtf is this abomination 💀

[uncut pollen]

🫂

[cedar coral]

shit me a brick

[uncut pollen]

👈 🫳 🫷 🫰 🤛 👉 🤏 👈 🫷 🤟 🤘 🫵

[heavy vigil]

fk';dlfk;slgksd;kfgj'

i hate chile gameplay

its so bad

[woeful knoll]

All the fun goes away the moment u take out argentina and brazil

Then you realize you have to attack peru, venuzuela, columbia, etc

[heavy vigil]

<KMDM<?:,d<KASF?????

no thats when you have an actual eco and stuff

im dying in a civil war in order to have the worst time of my life fighting argentina

[uncut pollen]

English only

[cunning burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480718922440511559/1490536667470364732/barbloss.gif

[fallow oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1459984506965725338/1469831735083798641/Untitledvideo-MadewithClipchamp1-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[cunning burrow]

i cooked on this one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480718922440511559/1490536667470364732/barbloss.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1460749648770765023/1479967705724616838/jurassic.gif

@rough sparrow

[fair horizon]

Wym which path

Ive only tried the mapuche path and the civil war sucked but i naval invaded the north

[heavy vigil]

all of chile

mapuche sucks you lose all your generals that make it playable

communist looks boring

democratic looks boring

[fair horizon]

I only got through argentina as mapuche before i had to sleep that night

[heavy vigil]

franco path im trying rn and its painful

[uncut pollen]

I have been getting into darkest hour

A hearts of iron game

[fair horizon]

good movie

[eternal aspen]

good mod too

boring, but decent mod

[uncut pollen]

...

https://youtu.be/8NEedyX2WGU?is=QCr3nw_BHXTwK2f5

[fair horizon]

It just didnt have the manpower for me to want to play it tbh

[fallen hearth]

the allies might be a bit strong rn

well im tagging germany and giving them 10m man power

and 10m equipments

[heavy vigil]

ITS BAD

[sudden thistle]

very much locked in

[smoky prairie]

Does anyone have any experience playing the Russian Civil War? (The one that happens if you decide to overthrow Stalin) I've never actually tried it and planning a run where I try

[sudden thistle]

kiev has been lost after a year of being on the frontlines

cooked

[smoky prairie]

What mod are you using for frontline graphics?

[sudden thistle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3491928466

[gentle cloak]

Should I use small, medium, or large airframes?

[sudden thistle]

convert all soviets divs to 2w arty

[sudden thistle]

which nation are u

[gentle cloak]

Third Rome

[smoky prairie]

haha. Does that actually work?

[sudden thistle]

usually

[smoky prairie]

That's hilarious. I'll try it. Thanks

[sudden thistle]

small airframe then ig

[smoky prairie]

Small airframe = fighter planes (or Close Air Support (CAS)). Medium Airframe = Tactical bombers. Large Airframe = strategic bombers

[gentle hemlock]

umm eva who is she

[terse skiff]

Medium airframes are also heavy fighters and heavy airframes are also marine patrol bombers

[smoky prairie]

Eva Braun. Adolf Hitler's Mistress who became his wife in 1945 a few hours before both he and his new wife committed suicide in the Fuhrer Bunker in Berlin.

[smoky prairie]

This is true. I always forget about those since I never use them, haha. But that too.

[terse skiff]

Maritime patrols are better than small airframe naval bomberd

Cuz you can stack torpedoes on them

[gentle cloak]

How do you increase the level of a radar

[smoky prairie]

I'm aware. I usually use medium airframes for nav bombers, but I only make navs as a very small number of countries

[sudden thistle]

ts sucks

[smoky prairie]

UK/Japan are the only nations I really make navs with

[sudden thistle]

each time i blink i get pushed somewhere

[sudden thistle]

research better radar

then build it

[smoky prairie]

You want to know a trick to defeating the Germans as the USSR?

[gentle hemlock]

ok still dont understand why hitler died so early

[sudden thistle]

its an enchanced AI mod it wont work

[smoky prairie]

Rush them. Justify on Poland out of the gate, then justify on Germany immediately after. Germany can snowball harder than almost any country out there, but they start out weak (still recovering from Versailles)

[sudden thistle]

the mod prevents stupid cheesing like that

[terse skiff]

You can do that but then where's the fun

[sudden thistle]

thankfully

[terse skiff]

There is an achievement for that so you should do it once in vanilla

[smoky prairie]

Well, that's the only way I've ever managed to do it. Having to face Germany 1v1 as Russia when Germany just dominates Europe really isn't doable in my experience

[terse skiff]

It's very easy to do

Base ai is stupid

[sudden thistle]

in vanilla its not that hard

make infantry

hold a bit

battleplan

[terse skiff]

Or just build 100 armor divisions

[slim nexus]

I hate this game, anyone know an actually fun mod that isn’t too hard to get into

[sudden thistle]

??

[terse skiff]

Yeah

[smoky prairie]

Thing is that Germany just has so many factories at that point because they have France+Belgium+Netherlands+Austria+Czech+Poland etc. That they outproduce the Soviets

[terse skiff]

You can easily get 300 factories as ussr

[smoky prairie]

It makes it hard to compete

[terse skiff]

And you can get 1943 production tech by 1940

[slim nexus]

German ai will throw themselves at you until theres nothing left, stand behind a river and let them for a while

[terse skiff]

Plus ussr has mystichy which is the strongest tank production mio

[smoky prairie]

I'm aware of the rivers strategy (Stalin line) but having to build forts wastes IC you could spend on building factories instead, and the strat isn't really viable without forts.

At any rate, I'm not the one losing a USSR game right now. I was merely commenting.

[sudden thistle]

in singleplayer it rlly isnt that bad

[smoky prairie]

This discussion has made me decide against doing a Russia run though, lol.

[terse skiff]

River line doesn't need forts

If you want any motivation to do ussr

And this is against +4 Germany and italy

[smoky prairie]

As I've said, only way I've ever had fun with it is rushing Germany before they get strong.

[turbid ravine]

ussr is micromanaging hell

[slim nexus]

Ive never built forts in my life

[smoky prairie]

Its not so bad at low game speeds

[turbid ravine]

too much bothering for too little fun 😪

[smoky prairie]

Land forts have been nerfed a great deal in recent patches its true, but they are still useful in niche cases such as chokepoints (El-Alemain) or behind Rivers (the Russian rivers strategy, aka the Stalin line) Coastal forts though are the bomb

[gentle cloak]

Is my design good for 1950?

That’s supposed to be a fighter

[smoky prairie]

slap on an extra armor. Otherwise not bad.

[slim nexus]

I always put 1 coastal fort on each port to make it better protected by my coast garrisons

[turbid ravine]

missing out on fortifying a minor european nation and completely change the course of ww2

[heavy vigil]

good night chat

[slim nexus]

I think I may have built forts as finland actually

[smoky prairie]

I tend to build coastal forts extensively and garrison my entire coast so there is nowhere to land without fighting.

[eternal aspen]

You can get 1940 by 1938 if you play right

[smoky prairie]

AI is a naval-invading maniac in my experience

Constantly trying to invade coasts

[slim nexus]

This peninsula is just asking to be encircled with that shape

[smoky prairie]

haha, yeah, I know. That's a good encirclement location

[nimble hornet]

I miss you william howard taft

[smoky prairie]

the other day as Japan I invaded New Guinea by landing at all the ports simultaneously, turning the entire island into an encirclement

[gentle cloak]

How do I increase my range tho? I want to reach at least 1300

[heavy vigil]

replace radio

[smoky prairie]

Range is hard to increase. You can put on the drop tanks which you already have. Otherwise, there isn't much you can do.

1300km is mostly out of range for fighters

[uncut pollen]

@smoky prairie do you know him?

https://youtu.be/YBNOkGsI47E?is=mxkPBVPI2lMrNoH_

[smoky prairie]

(barring specially designed ones with extra fuel tanks, but that reduces defense value to a point the plane isn't terribly useful)

[gentle cloak]

I replaced radio with extra fuel tanks and I reached 1237km range. Good?

[smoky prairie]

No, sorry.

Don't know him

[uncut pollen]

Sad

[gentle cloak]

My nation is full of radios tho, why don’t I take advantage of that?

[smoky prairie]

Its your plane design

[smoky prairie]

because in HOI4 giving a plane a radio doesn't give it much of boost stat wise. IRL that's totally not true, but that's just how HOI4 works.

Yes, its dumb

[gentle cloak]

So all these radios I built are only good for my ground troops?

[smoky prairie]

Pretty much. Researching radio gives your troops a boost to reinforcement rate, and allows you to put better radios in tanks if you are building them. Otherwise, they aren't of much use.

Radios do give a sizable boost to tanks, but not to planes

[heavy vigil]

extra fuel tanks module..?

its like less weight and more range

doesnt help your air defense but still

its good

[smoky prairie]

@heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

you can use 1

its only 2 def

and that plane will get to 1300

[gentle cloak]

I already have signal company in my tank template. Should I put one in inf template too?

[heavy vigil]

km range

[smoky prairie]

Maybe. I usually try to avoid putting extra fuel tanks on my planes personally.

[smoky prairie]

I usually don't use signal companies, since support company space per template is limited and there are other better ones

[fair horizon]

EAW

[gentle cloak]

I thought I needed signal companies to take advantage of the radios I built

[smoky prairie]

I'm not talking about the template, I'm talking about the tank design you are using in your template

You don't ''build'' radios. (unless you are running Black Ice or something) You research them and get a flat bonus

[lost nymph]

So my internet went dark and I could not launch hoi at all. thats kinda bs for SP...

[terse skiff]

They're good if you don't expect the plane to air fight like scouts, cas, and strats

[noble echo]

Wait it doesn't launch?😮

[terse skiff]

These planes operate under green air so their battle stats mean nothing

[terse skiff]

Yeah just go down 3rd 5yp properly

[lost nymph]

not on my linux system

[smoky prairie]

Only time I use fuel tanks on my planes are when I'm building super long-range transatlantic strat bombers

but thats super late game

[terse skiff]

Not canon video since in my universe I need to attack Germany because mustache man is too afraid of my army

[heavy vigil]

you still do 1 on fighter

for range

efficiency

[terse skiff]

You need range because not everywhere is Europe where every state has enough for 3k planes

[heavy vigil]

europe you only need 900km range

[terse skiff]

That's against easy ai, I tried that against +4 Germany and Italy and my planes got shredded

[heavy vigil]

south america its like 1500 ideally

[terse skiff]

You can get efficiency with doctrine and radar but you can't get more stats

[heavy vigil]

oceania youre never getting good air

[smoky prairie]

I usually just go with drop tanks on fighters. I've never had a problem, especially once you get late-game fighter models

[heavy vigil]

north america is like europe

africa is like 1100 ish iirc

[eternal aspen]

can you even?

[terse skiff]

So basically you need to get 240 XP to get to fighter subdoctrine and start training your fighters until barb

[eternal aspen]

like, doesn't it require you to be at war with a major while in a defensive war?

[terse skiff]

Yeah just time your focuses and research

[sudden thistle]

what does the sky look like here

[terse skiff]

No 3rd 5yp is disrupted once you fight a major

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/300-fight-in-the-shade-we-will-fight-gif-16617186

[sudden thistle]

it prob looks like the scene from 300

where the arrows blot out the sun

[eternal aspen]

so it isn't locked behind being at war? i never knew that

[heavy vigil]

i love plane

[terse skiff]

It gets locked after you're in war with a major. It's the exact opposite

[subtle wharf]

The USSR is such a pain in the ass

[smoky prairie]

let me get a screenshot of one of my ultra-late game fighter models I used (I use ETT1960 on all my runs)

[terse skiff]

Does this image scare you

[mental mantle]

What would civillian life be like under Democratic Russia in the 1940’s?

[subtle wharf]

I’ve watched all the Barbosa vids and I can’t replicate that success

[heavy vigil]

no?

[noble echo]

War

[terse skiff]

No fuel tanks

[heavy vigil]

oh just saw

500km range

no efficiency

[subtle wharf]

How tf can you beat Russia

[heavy vigil]

army

airforce

[subtle wharf]

Oh really

[clear dagger]

no but this does

[heavy vigil]

np

[smoky prairie]

its actually really easy, lol

[subtle wharf]

Haven’t tried that yet

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/scares-me-i-fear-no-man-gif-21507033

[subtle wharf]

Yea no

[heavy vigil]

must be the issue

[smoky prairie]

It is. I've done it plenty of times as all several nations

[subtle wharf]

It’s BS I’ve watched multiple barborssa vids can’t break thru

[smoky prairie]

If anything, its too easy.

[subtle wharf]

And I get screwed from the north every time

[clear dagger]

are your troops eating tires for food from lack of supply?

[heavy vigil]

well if you want my prediction its that youre making like 100 misplays/mistakes that are glossed over/not punished because germany is stupid OP and now youre running into the first country thats coded to not completely fall over and die (but in balance/with decent play it will) and are now failing

and theres not much help to give without having access to information about your game

[subtle wharf]

Not on the frontline but as I try and encircle my armored and motorized divs do

[smoky prairie]

This was my circa 1956 jet fighter design my last Germany run:

[gentle cloak]

How’s my CAS design? @smoky prairie

[lost nymph]

someone know how the IC points are counted on a template?

[subtle wharf]

I’m sure I am I have 25 hours lol

I’ve tried attacking Russia like 10 times

[lost nymph]

Do they consider tech 0 to t3? for the whole chain of equip?

[smoky prairie]

There's your issue. I have around 3,100 hours

[clear dagger]

its just calculating all the IC from every piece of equipment it'll cost to make that division

from guns to support equipment to tanks to trucks etc

[smoky prairie]

don't use bomb bays on CAS. Use bomb locks. remove the cannons and add more bomb locks. Add dive brakes

[oak pebble]

you have 25 hours you won't defeat russia until at least 400

[clear dagger]

not true

[subtle wharf]

Bruh

[noble echo]

I lost to Belgium as Germany

[lost nymph]

so what does that mean ? When I change t1 to t3 , the stats for IC stay the same despite having total other unit stats

[oak pebble]

first 200 hours I was losing to austria as germany

[clear dagger]

its from the latest equipment you have researched

[clear dagger]

how

you arent even supposed to fight them

[subtle wharf]

I’ve been able to roll over Poland and France but USSR I get bogged down and I get overrun in the north

[oak pebble]

cause I was like 10 years old and severely restarted

[clear dagger]

you just eat them in a focus

[smoky prairie]

I've been playing HOI4 since the day it released in 2016. Before that, I played HOI3 since 2011.

[oak pebble]

I justified on them 💀

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/rotating-skull-gif-24524852

[lost nymph]

and why are they telling me this? the 2765 up to 2976 on both?

[noble echo]

John Heart of Iron

[gentle cloak]

Now?

[noble echo]

Remove one

[smoky prairie]

Well, there are people who've been playing it for longer than I have. But most of them don't play anymore.

[smoky prairie]

Yeah, its too heavy to fly. see how the save button is grayed out?

[gentle cloak]

I removed one armor piercing bomb and it’s green

Perfect?

[smoky prairie]

Anyhow though, I don't play nearly as much as I used to. Life gets busier in your 30s.

[smoky prairie]

Good for now. Research "Heavy bombs" as soon as you can. Once you have it, replace the armor-piercing bomb locks with heavy bomb locks.

[gentle cloak]

Dude I have everything researched. It’s 1950 and im preparing a world conquest which I’ll start in 1960. The entire world is allied rn and I’ll just solo the world

That’s me

[smoky prairie]

In that case, go ahead and replace the armor-piercing bomb locks with heavy bomb locks

armor-piercing bomb locks are for ships

[jade parcel]

how do i get the multiplayer version cdcd

[noble echo]

How did that happen?

[smoky prairie]

going to sleep now. 'night.

[solemn bay]

the beauty of unhistorical

[vivid juniper]

I had this but with democratic China guaranteeing them as well

[lost nymph]

hey man we talked a few hours ago about this template and I argued that mech is way to expensive, well if I pick the best support units for it it looks like this. it doesnt really look like its 3x the hardness tho and the units are super cheap. both are aimed for W 20. that was my goal

[terse skiff]

You really shouldn't use line art

[lost nymph]

and why the hell not

look at this

[terse skiff]

Because they make your divisions weaker

[lost nymph]

you cant have everything and that is the thing here

[terse skiff]

Also your hardness is not 3x because it's more like 100x

It would be better if you just made pure mountaineers

[gentle cloak]

Guys how’s my strategic bomber design?

[lost nymph]

rly?

[eternal aspen]

can you add more bombs at all by chance?

just to up the damage

even if it's CAS bombs

[terse skiff]

Yes it's much better

There's a video in pins in help that explains why line art sucks

[clear dagger]

where support companies

[lost nymph]

I wanted to test if he looks really at it

[clear dagger]

what

[eternal aspen]

atp, line arty isn't bad, it's just useless in the modern hoi4 scene

they gotta buff it in the next DLC ngl

[terse skiff]

If you want to buff art, you should make them take 0 width like they do irl

[lost nymph]

the overlook in the stats

[eternal aspen]

tbf, artillery should also not reduce org as much

like it's actually stupid that 150mm guns lobbing 60 or so pounds of screw you at the enemy does worse compared to a few guys with sticks

[lost nymph]

just more speciaforces is not the answer because they are capped

[terse skiff]

Let me tell you the cruel thing

[lost nymph]

also MP is my biggest problem every time

[terse skiff]

Pure reg inf is better than inf + art

[clear dagger]

comparing mountaineers with line artillery and a template with only mountaineers doesnt make sense if only one of them have any support companies

[terse skiff]

Really, check out that video

And if you have mp problems then please stop making the unit with 2 hp, 0 org, 0 armor, and 0 hardness

[lost nymph]

I will watch that if you can anwer me one question , why does the line suck other then shrinking HP ?

[clear dagger]

combat width and org

[eternal aspen]

CW isn't as important

[terse skiff]

Less org + low damage/ic ratio post 1939 + takes width + more terrain debuffs+ less stat buffs than inf = bad unit

[eternal aspen]

with doctrines you can make 9/3 smaller than 9 inf alone

[terse skiff]

Hp isn't even the problem because SPGs have 0 hp but are still op

[eternal aspen]

but you miss out on good stats for soft and hard attack

[lost nymph]

org is a tiny bit less then a medium tank , combat with, look at the template again. its an w20

[terse skiff]

Yeah cuz no one builds 20w offensive units

[clear dagger]

you dont put medium tanks in infantry templates

[terse skiff]

You can

[clear dagger]

i didnt say "can't"

[terse skiff]

Tanks + inf is one of the metas

Speed doesn't matter

[lost nymph]

how does this even relate when I say the org is a tiny bit less when you replace it with a medium tank

[terse skiff]

Now check hardness stat

Like really just watch the video

[lost nymph]

Mounteneers have to my knowledge the highest org

[terse skiff]

The video is there so all y our questions can be answered

[lost nymph]

it is pinned?

[terse skiff]

Yes in help channel

[lost nymph]

where is the part I want to watch exactly because there are 3 videos and some are 1h long

[lost nymph]

I really dont see the answer 😛

[terse skiff]

I mean there's literally a post in pins which says "Why line art is bad"

[noble echo]

I heard that 7/1 template is meta

[tulip thorn]

Maybe several years ago lol

Hasnt been like that for several years

[terse skiff]

It was 7/2 pre nsb

[noble echo]

Wtf😭

[tulip thorn]

Yeah

[terse skiff]

But tbh looking back maybe 10/0 is better

[lost nymph]

oaky this is something different and you cant even compare it but thanks

[distant knoll]

YouTube is so bad to learn meta for most paradox titles

[tulip thorn]

Youtube can give pretty good beginner tutorials

Its reddit you must stay away from for learning

Really just stay away from reddit overall

[distant knoll]

Didnt say anything about learning the game itself

[tulip thorn]

I feel like there should atleast be 1 person on youtube showing good metas for paradox games

Including mp metas

[lost nymph]

this talk is way to old. you know that?

[terse skiff]

No it's still up to date

[lost nymph]

combad with changed and boni from sup aswell

[terse skiff]

Or else we need to repost plane designs in every patch

[lost nymph]

width

[terse skiff]

Ah yes because the subdoctrines only buffed line art and nothing else

[lost nymph]

wrong

why do you think I made this

I wanted to see what I can get from the doctrins

if its just trash like everyone is ssaying

[terse skiff]

Yeah and if you used other doctrines you would get much more stats

[lost nymph]

well this depends on where you are and what you play I would argue

[terse skiff]

Also you might have forgotten that there is a thing called terrain debuffs

[lost nymph]

I dont

well its a mountain unit , it fights on low supply mountains 😄

[terse skiff]

so for example, here is pure 9/0: amphibious atk +25%, and if it's 9/1, then amphibious atk +21%, and if it's 9/5 then amphibious atk + 10.7%. And that's ultra late game divisions with modded extra support companies, maxxed out engineers, flame tanks, and recon rangers. In early game with enough art your units will only operate at half efficiency

[exotic bridge]

spanish civil war is no more

[lost nymph]

I wouldn't bring them , I also would not bring a strat bomber when I want air superiority

[terse skiff]

well that means you wouldn't bring them for every terrain

[noble echo]

What about heavy fighters?

[lost nymph]

not really, most of the time I play games whith minors and a lot of mountains so thats why I said it depends on when and where

I change the doctrine in later stages anway

[misty fossil]

2019 is 7 years ago

[terse skiff]

@dusky burrow also this is the mio for ussr from mod, the mod name is more mios

[woeful knoll]

More support companies then infantry is crazy bro

Thats not historical

[terse skiff]

that's because no one had the capacity to build all the equipment

if they could they would

and the stats for line art only look good because of mods and ultra late game

[woeful knoll]

"games with minors and a lot of mountains" Do you play bhutan and peru bro?

[lost nymph]

something like that

I have no MP I have no resources. nothing is there

[woeful knoll]

was it a dream i had or do i remember there was a mod or something that you could actually spawn a thunder dragon as bhutan

i remember i saw it somehwere

[dusky burrow]

oh i happen to have it

[terse skiff]

it's a very op mio tbh

[dusky burrow]

although here I would take the left one on the bottom row instead of the right one

10% production output is worth more than like 5% agility

[terse skiff]

i mean i have 3k factories

so production stats don't matter anymore

and i had to pick the other things first because early game i'm low on oil so i need every equipement to be maxxed out on stats

[dusky burrow]

oh lmao i didn't see that

[exotic bridge]

the AI should gain consciousness and fix this

[dusky burrow]

i don't like how the mod changes mios that people very commonly use, like henschel is now a fast tank designer and its replacement infantry tank mio krupp does not have the traits vanilla henschel has

[dusky burrow]

yeah it should get decisions to reintegrate them

[restive sable]

beautiful borders

[terse skiff]

anyway here are my fighter stats against +4 germany and italy

[terse skiff]

i only use it with ussr because I can't stand the crap air mios and no carrier mio

[lost nymph]

funny how some MIOs even tell its a carrier mio and it turns out its not

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[terse skiff]

but like tbh the carrier mio is still underwhelming because it's just repackaged black sea

meanwhile roc has -35% production cost for carriers

[dusky burrow]

roc?

[distant knoll]

Republic of China, I think

[terse skiff]

chiang kai shek

[distant knoll]

I find mios to be pretty op but they’re not fun in any way, it’s just clicking all the time

And ALOT of the mios are just the same thing

[terse skiff]

yeah cuz a lot of the mios are shit

[lost nymph]

I am still convinced that this template is not bad. the video is that much outdated because all the bonis from the doctrines are not taking into account.
and even with their terrain modifiers.

[pastel dock]

artillety the queen of the wars

and the most underrated of every aspect of war

along with logistics

[lost nymph]

haha look at Ukraine now

[late wharf]

Napoleon would agree* with artillery and logistics being underrated, and also no modern politics ^^

[lost nymph]

without logi you would not even get out the gate

[woven gate]

agreed

[pastel dock]

napoleon win beacause of logi and arti

[distant knoll]

I mean like he would probably like tanks more if he was alive Circa 1940

[late wharf]

Absolutely, I put disagree when I meant agree lmao

[pastel dock]

but the common joe smith does not think of artillery of logistics

[woven gate]

Artillery made Frederick the Great truly Great

[pastel dock]

fredy my beloved

best prusian alongside kant

[distant knoll]

In what way is logistics underrated 😭 😭

[woven gate]

Charles XII also did some stuff with Artillery but he hated it

[lost nymph]

in most games they are not even in it

[woven gate]

the average person doesn't think of it much

[distant knoll]

I mean by that time most nations used artillery

[pastel dock]

nobody thinks in that

only us nerds

jiji

[distant knoll]

I mean hes talking about war not games

[woven gate]

those who use it the most effectively are the most successful

[woven gate]

exactly

[pastel dock]

really in both

[distant knoll]

In war every NCO to enlisted to CO would be talking about logistics more than anything

[lost nymph]

even then so, look at the kremlin and their wannabe bliz , without the logistics

[distant knoll]

I know a bunch of military guys irl

[late wharf]

Again, let's knock it off with the modern day politics or references please ^^

[pastel dock]

i talk more about the average history channel viewer

[distant knoll]

I mean they still care about logistics it’s just that they have a god awful logistics system

[pastel dock]

that think the tiger is the best

lol

[lost nymph]

did you get a ping or something?

😄

[late wharf]

Nope, it's 04:11 and I figured I'd pop in before I head off, but I stuck around for the interesting conversation 🤣

[pastel dock]

i love talking about russo ukrainian war

in 1920

pilsudsky was so handsome

[foggy scaffold]

Lowkey, what if there was a search bar in the occupied territories thing

[lost nymph]

I am not even sure how long I am awake right now

[pastel dock]

i need a mod where i can make ataturk inmortal

[cedar coral]

gott und kaiser

[lost nymph]

feels like oldschool lan party, something like it when its waaaay to late

[late wharf]

Yeah, I'm the last person that can tell you to go sleep. 😅

[foggy scaffold]

Cuz if there was a search bar in the occupied territories thing I wouldnt have to look for a country to release after scrolling for 30 minutes

[pastel dock]

das kaiser is happy

[late wharf]

Honestly, it could be good to pop that onto the Forums as a suggestion, if you feel like it!

[pastel dock]

i wish a mod where i can make a proper kaiserreich and not socialdemocracy

[lost nymph]

😄

[pastel dock]

#kaiserthebestkaiser

[foggy scaffold]

Oh yea, thanks for reminding me

[pastel dock]

i never go to the kingdom path

i love the word empire

[cedar coral]

what the hell

[dusky burrow]

somehow most of the terrain modifiers are positive 😭

but yeah that template is quite bad actually

[lost nymph]

wanna see more? its even more crazy if I zoome out

[foggy scaffold]

Idk if im blind

But where are the forums actually

[cedar coral]

no please

[lost nymph]

rly? 😛

[late wharf]

Here you go! -- https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/forums/hearts-of-iron-iv-suggestions.953/

[iron iron]

If I put my troops on a different countries border and do alot of effort do I get the victory points still

[foggy scaffold]

Thanks

[dusky burrow]

Yeah

[lost nymph]

the soft attack is so good 😛

[dusky burrow]

The HP in the division is absurdly low for one

also wait are you using pre-1.17 doctrines or post-1.17 doctrines

[lost nymph]

loooks like post

if 17.5.2 counts

[dusky burrow]

ah yeah that counts

you will find that you will lose a lot of equipment this way

[oak pebble]

you think it's possible to defeat soviets in 1947 as usa?

[late wharf]

Buddy, I've seen people take out Germany as Luxembourg, anything is possible at this point 😭

[lost nymph]

HP is half what the unit would have had with the same width, only with mountaineers

[noble echo]

Unthinkable

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-pilsudski-haller-army-history-gif-24462633

such a great mustache

[oak mantle]

Thats not even that hard

[lost nymph]

well its made for low supply and mountain regions / plains deserts

i fight mostly those tiles all the time. with minor nations against majors

[late wharf]

Okay! 🙂

[oak mantle]

Tanna tuva world conquest is tuff tho

[foggy scaffold]

Finally finished a france run

Took me..

From 1 to 4.?

What

How does a france run take that long

I only did napoleon

[pastel dock]

i see him very similar to nietche

https://tenor.com/view/nietzsche-gif-23915828

[foggy scaffold]

Is it broken

[pastel dock]

https://tenor.com/view/history-army-marshall-pilsudski-polish-gif-24462542

[foggy scaffold]

So I kinda logged in and did it n all but went onto forums and wasn't logged in

Now its asking me to verify.

For the 3rd time

[lost nymph]

most cursed game ever right now for me with greece

[foggy scaffold]

Everything's hating me atp

[pastel dock]

lol

[foggy scaffold]

Ir genuinely hates me

Ive already verified

But its still askin

Yea alr ama just go sleep

This thing hates me

[exotic bridge]

I needed the rubber

[lost nymph]

have you tried to pay ?

I also want that but they dont sell enough so I build their infrastructure up : D

[honest glacier]

military industry suddenly dissapeared like a black child's father

can someone explain

[iron iron]

Why do the soviets keep naval invading me

[finite plume]

You're probably getting bombed

[honest glacier]

if i was bombed the factories would be red

and im not war with anyone except the canadians

[finite plume]

Hover over the factory count on the top

[lost nymph]

holly hell

you converted almost all into civs ha

[honest glacier]

no the hell i didnt

the mills vanished into thin air

[lost nymph]

why is the AI not able to make late game templates?

[finite plume]

Germany 's core land starts with 28 mils alone so

Maybe you were using war reparations and they ended

[dusky burrow]

well i'd still use 32-width mountaineers so that my division template survives for more than a few battles

plus such a division will have really high org

[lost nymph]

what is high on your book?

70?

[lost nymph]

the problem with minors is the special forces cap. thats why I go for low special forces count per unit.

it doesnt make sense to have onle one Mountain unit

[fair horizon]

Fair

[slender fractal]

im unable to go back to 1.17.4

why isnt it an option in the steam version switcher thing

its the version needed for a few mods to work i think

[exotic bridge]

bad day for hungary

[plain isle]

easily repelled

[fair horizon]

I heard his great grandson or w/e plays soccer

[cedar lance]

should i give a lot of Support and aid to others as usa?

[dusky burrow]

time to pull out the video again

[dusky burrow]

but seriously, yeah, you deploy 2w, expand them to 40/50w, convert some of them, and then immediately delete the ones you're left with

[misty fossil]

Still waiting for eaw mods to get back to me about my ban appeal

[noble echo]

You can make a lot of one soldier divisions

[dusky burrow]

technically special forces count is based off of battalion+company count that is not special forces

[exotic bridge]

it might be over for germany

[dusky burrow]

but as shown you can easily increase a division from 1 battalion to 30

[misty fossil]

Liva r u in the eaw discord

[dusky burrow]

no unfortunately

[misty fossil]

thanks

@craggy trail hey sorry for bothering but do eaw mods get back to you about your ban appeals usually?

i submitted an appeal 4-5 days ago but idk how long it takes to get processed

[exotic bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-bonaparte-napoleon-bonaparte-france-gif-8792903734324854083

[iron iron]

I’m almost there

[upbeat tundra]

mmmmmmm taaasty

[exotic bridge]

nice I went on some sidequests first before the main thing

[iron iron]

Hot damn

[iron iron]

I’m creaming

I declared war on Germany when they declared on Czech

And then they got into a civil war

[upbeat tundra]

thats not very kaisery of you

[iron iron]

And now I’m trying to kill the other Germany but they are in allies

Aka the German empire 😭

I’m killing myself basically

As France

Anyways uk invading me so

[oak pebble]

Early game just trade with UK to give their economy a boost but other than that it’s probably situational

[upbeat tundra]

all hoi4 players contemplate this after afking and getting navaled 50x times when they aint looking

[fair horizon]

Me naval invading the entire french coast as australia

[upbeat tundra]

the emu marine force

[exotic bridge]

holy moly

[upbeat tundra]

how does a chinese clique slip in when china isnt here

[cedar lance]

alr

[fair horizon]

I wonder if emus are good swimmers

[exotic bridge]

idk man I didn't build their economy

[upbeat tundra]

whatever their economic builder is on

mao would like to take the same thing

[atomic grove]

there we go

[exotic bridge]

I only got 680

[rustic fiber]

bro is it just me or are the communists asctually ridiculously strong in the new kaiserrdeux patch

every single playthrough they always sweep through germany and destroy everyone in italy regardless of what you do

[raw crystal]

I got like 500 + hours in about 3 months mostly playing as Monarchist Germany. I got HOI4 in the 2025 Winter Sale.

I see myself as a Monarchist ideology player.

[misty fossil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/728744216603131925/1087465611468214372/attachment.gif

[fair horizon]

Hey guys, got any ideas how to still win this?

[green lodge]

Sinkiang is surprisingly fun for now

What template should for raids

[gentle cloak]

What does it even do when you upgrade a railway

[green lodge]

Just 18w + artillery/ engineers/ recon right ?

[green lodge]

More supply travels

Less bottlenecks

[raw crystal]

I might do a playthrough using a WW1 mod once I improve and get better at HOI4.

[gentle cloak]

so u get more supply? And faster?

[green lodge]

I don't think faster but yes, more supply

[distant knoll]

Supply is constant at all times

In terms of speed

[dense pivot]

man what game do i play im so bored

[misty fossil]

Roblox

[tulip thorn]

Im thinking hoi4

Seems like a great option of your many

[dense pivot]

idk

maybe

[tulip thorn]

So many games but no games

[ember vine]

Top left one looks legit with icon compared to title

[dense pivot]

truth

[lost dawn]

I believe I might need some help. As is probably obvious I am attempting to restore Rome, but I am in a difficult fight with the Soviets AND the US/UK. The year is 1944. The "allies" landed in Southern France with a naval invasion while I was trying to conquer Spain and the soviets are overrunning the fronts in Anatolia and the Balkan.

My navy has control over the Mediterranean and I also have 120, 10 width garrison divisions scattered around the empire.

Iraq is also planning an invasion of my Mesopotamian lands and North Africa.

Any ideas?

[pastel urchin]

pray

[lost dawn]

The allies and their naval invasions...

[pastel urchin]

use the force of bitter steel

[lost dawn]

I am almost tempted to send him this save game

I am starting to lose faith in final victory

[pastel urchin]

never give up

[lost dawn]

If I could just push the allies out of Spain and Gaul

[pastel urchin]

u gotta sacrifice some land i see

[lost dawn]

It is a 3 way fight between the Axis, Novus Imperium Romanum and the Comintern. With the Commonwealth of Nations at war with the Axis and Novus Imperium Romanum.

[lost dawn]

I already did.

I sacrificed Romania

I am not giving up on Anatolia.

[pastel urchin]

dang

[terse skiff]

nice air force you have there uk

[lost dawn]

The Axis took the Comintern's port.

Now they are both encircled.

[pastel urchin]

very nice

keep pushing

[clear dagger]

Stellaris

[lost dawn]

The balkan is lost.

[pastel urchin]

u will reclaim that later

focus on encirclements

[lost dawn]

It is over.

Since when can nations declare war on another nation when the faction leaders have a non-aggression pact

Well. Iraq did declare on Portugal and not me.

But portugal is my puppet

[pastel urchin]

dang

[lost dawn]

This will now pull hungary and Austria into the war against me

[pastel urchin]

ur cooked

[lost dawn]

France joined the war on the side of the Axis

This is not looking good for Rome

[pastel urchin]

uhh

well

https://giphy.com/gifs/hoi4-hearts-of-iron-4-our-manpower-is-gone-cBAprxPvu1TIf590zk

[lost dawn]

The soviets are also pushing from the Caucasus

I pulled troops off of that front to close the encirclement near Ankara

But now...

[clear dagger]

about that..

[iron iron]

☹️

[iron iron]

1k manpower in ussr?

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[clear dagger]

comrade stalin has forgotten to up his conscription law

for over a year now

[lost dawn]

I give up

[pastel urchin]

rinse and repeat

[lost dawn]

Italy is under threat from Austria, Hungary and the soviets...

[lilac ginkgo]

Is that meant to threaten you

Use it to motivate yourself

[lost dawn]

the encirclement in Anatolia is about the be saved by a soviet counter offensive.

[heavy vigil]

hi chat

[lilac ginkgo]

no

[lost dawn]

Iraq is pushing into Egypte

[lilac ginkgo]

Then stop them

[lost dawn]

Britain launched another naval invasion on Spain

[lilac ginkgo]

do something about it

[lost dawn]

The Austrians are pushing through France towards Lyon.

Iraq also has a large army on my border in Anatolia

My unites are out of equipment

I am out of manpower

It is over.

[lilac ginkgo]

so you just suck

how hard can it be

[lost dawn]

Consider yourself ignored.

[lilac ginkgo]

you re talking to yourself then

[lost dawn]

I am not for I was talking to Fandaa

[lilac ginkgo]

the voices took over

you re delusional brochacho

unc finally remembered his mental health is old news

[heavy vigil]

well this isnt a fair comparison, you usually use mech with tanks, and even here youre down 40hp, mountaineers are obviously the best inf in the game especially with individual excellence +5 hp per batallion

[iron iron]

Volunteer only for ussr against Germany

[heavy vigil]

your hardness is also ruined by the large amount of line artillery, which really is a detriment here to both speed and power

the comparison was also motorized to mechanized, not mechanized to mountaineers

they fullfill different roles

[icy egret]

It’s comparing apples to oranges

[pastel urchin]

im back

[pastel urchin]

i am real

i think

[rotund chasm]

I want to see a historically accurate army composite sealion

[lost dawn]

Considering sending this one to Bittersteel

He loves a good "Italy disaster" game.

[pastel urchin]

do it

[lost dawn]

I am now literally at war with all other factions except for the Benelux one.

And almost all of my neighbours are enemies.

[fair horizon]

hello chat

which country do you guys like to play

[lost dawn]

My unites are depleted when it comes to stockpiles of equipment

My manpower has long since been reduced to 0.

[pastel urchin]

france

[fair horizon]

CENSOR THAT NOW

[lost dawn]

Nepal.

World conquest.

Or... better yet

Albania world conquest

[misty fossil]

japan

[oak pebble]

Anyone know where I can find a good guide for Soviet Union?

[lost dawn]

Would love to help you mate. But I always feel sick to my stomach when playing as a communist nation.

So I do not know where to find a guide.

[rotund chasm]

You can do just about anything with DN

[oak pebble]

Realest sentence I’ve ever heard

[lost dawn]

For the same reason I will never have any of the soviet achievements.

[pastel urchin]

i physically cannot play soviet union

idk why

it just feels so boring

and meh

[distant knoll]

The Soviet Union is so fun

20,000 tanks by 1941

[oak pebble]

I’m just trying to learn how to play every major tbh I more enjoy UK, US or France but I have to learn soviets at some point

But I must say it does seem very boring up until 41

[pastel urchin]

france best end of debate

[distant knoll]

Dude, the US is more boring if you look at things you have to do

[oak pebble]

Once you get past the stage of getting ganked by Germany every game

I think I played 8 saves in a row before finally holding against Germany

[distant knoll]

I mean if you’re going through it won’t be boring since tech micro and xp micro takes your attention

But it’s the same with the CCCP

[pastel urchin]

my heavy tanks say otherwise

[oak pebble]

I just build infrastructure and mils + mechanised marines and join in 1940

As soon as France falls you can basically D-day

[distant knoll]

Or 36w infantry