hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

36w inf block

well ping him here

[tender surge]

this guy

[frail meteor]

not optimal

[static creek]

I basically run any enemy over

[tender surge]

he doesnt have discord

[frail meteor]

well it's ai so anything works

[misty fossil]

damn

idk then

[static creek]

the strat of under 20 works for me for ai

[tender surge]

i stick with the 18 width ones

[misty fossil]

do 36w

lmao

more hp means less losses

rush gun 3

maybe take large unit tactics

is assault inf or large unit tactics better

[frail meteor]

assault inf

[sharp sierra]

but what do you do about the spiders

[tender surge]

which cities should i try and take asap?

[static creek]

if you do 36w you are making less units attacking within a tile

[misty fossil]

just battleplan

[misty fossil]

but more hp so you take fewer losses

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-sergei-kravinoff-aaron-taylor-johnson-kraven-the-hunter-yikes-gif-15763739726499649726

[static creek]

a good 20 width is good for every tile if you're stacking more units

[winged field]

Assault 100 more soft attack large a bit more hp

[misty fossil]

lower cws work better for defending but not attacking

[frail meteor]

you have should include flame tanks if u use assault inf

[static creek]

but you can stack more infan with low width troops

[misty fossil]

and assault engineer

[tender surge]

so chat which cities do i try to take asap after the war starts

[static creek]

thats how I pretty much overthrown germany, france

as italy

[misty fossil]

but you take more casualties and lose more guns

[static creek]

the worst nation to play

[misty fossil]

i just do 36w and mow everyone

[static creek]

36w is costly

[misty fossil]

nope

not as germany

[static creek]

i'm not playing germany

I am playing italy

[sharp sierra]

36 width isnt costly but i will say you could get more soft attack per combat width with a smaller unit and sometimes thats better

[tender surge]

can someone teach me how to get good at hoi4

[frail meteor]

doesn't really matter

[misty fossil]

im talking about wabuchy's case

[winged field]

For 36w pure inf keep in mind you want to have at least 200 breakthrough so go with grand assault

[tender surge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hakari-dance-kinji-hakari

[misty fossil]

fair

[winged field]

Probably not viable if you don't have NSB cuz u can't stack breakthrough on your flame tanks

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-500kg-helldiver-dance-gif-14529854630982684552

[misty fossil]

@hexed portal proof that dlcs change gameplay a lot i think

[tender surge]

-# if u want or have time to teach me how to get good at hoi4 dm me

[misty fossil]

im busy rn

[static creek]

fine, at start of 1936 you should stick to an easy but not too cheap infan, 19width with atleast 1 artillery to break through enemy lines with an average of 48 divs or more, once you have a good production with factories and civs, go with a 36 if you can afford it

[frail meteor]

just start playing multiplayer

[sharp sierra]

no dont play multiplayer

[tender surge]

what do you think i've been doing with karl on steam

[frail meteor]

i mean like decent sized lobbies

[hexed portal]

Nods nods, gotcha

[frail meteor]

wrong

[sharp sierra]

i cant recommend that all day bs to anyone

[frail meteor]

it's fun though

[winged field]

You don't want to use line arty

It's terrible

[static creek]

works for me

[misty fossil]

truth nuke

[winged field]

It works but bcs ai is terrible

[static creek]

if I didn't I would not be able to invade france easly

[misty fossil]

yes

[winged field]

Not bcs it's good

[frail meteor]

not with newest dlc, and it's just the ai your using it against

[misty fossil]

the humble 32w marines/mountaineer:

[sharp sierra]

if u have booty tech and who ur fighting has booty tech it might be good

[misty fossil]

i dont like italy purely because they're so poor

[frail meteor]

32w?

[tender surge]

me and karl did alot of runs
we did italian east africa and north africa. which i was north and i ended up taking all of egypt and some of middle east
italy and germany. i encircled alot of sudan
soviet union and communist germany. turkey invaded me and i was pushing them back and i swiftly invaded romania

[static creek]

at this point, why not I just use colonial troops

[misty fossil]

8 marines 10 mountaineers if you pick holding the line mountaineer doctrine

they can mow down anything

[frail meteor]

i kinda just prefer all mountaineers because you can get more stats

[misty fossil]

yeah my template is also for naval invasions

its a dual purpose thing

[frail meteor]

but it is good for situations

yeah

[tender surge]

are these good or bad achievements

[sharp sierra]

terribl;e just terrible

[frail meteor]

it's ai

[sharp sierra]

theres 200 spiders in my room

[weary estuary]

Bruh why is Peru focus tree so OP

Can you imagine if other nations had this

[wary sparrow]

non historical is funny

[weary estuary]

Also Belgium

Holy moly can they develop a lot of resources

[wary sparrow]

i mean they can exploit the congo alot so

[weary estuary]

Then I was looking at englands tree

Cause I was bored and was looking at trees

They suck for rss development

[wary sparrow]

it sucks for anything

its super boring and old

[weary estuary]

We need an England patch

They should call it “in the kings name”

[wary sparrow]

man the guns was the england dlc. we now need a new one

[wary sparrow]

40 dollars btw

6 formables for wales

3 underwhelming new mechanics just to be used to fight the IRA in north ireland

[frail meteor]

i would prefer a usa one first

hoping usa gets a rework next year

[restive sable]

they integrated waking the tiger then we got a japan and china rework, feel like now we can expect a US/UK rework

since they integrated man the guns

[wary sparrow]

im sure its coming just not for a year or two

heres hoping

[restive sable]

meh id assume either late this year or early next year

Q4 of this year at the very earliest

[wary sparrow]

they got the aussie dlc coming

and the czech

[frail meteor]

nah albania and luxembourg dlcs are coming before usa

[restive sable]

both are scheduled Q2 though

[weary estuary]

Does Ireland have focus?

[wary sparrow]

no

[weary estuary]

Dammit

[wary sparrow]

also side note germany just appeased hungary. its peak

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/hungary-gif-1142201547216426190

[wary sparrow]

hungary best nation

[weary estuary]

Portugal best nation

Tungsten W

[wary sparrow]

actually i prefer them over spain

since you can get a navy, get brazil, or go communist and form iberia

spains just terrible

[weary estuary]

I have yet to check out Argentina

I just got that content that gives them a tree today

[wary sparrow]

also we have other regions that need work like Upper South America and the balkans

[restive sable]

spain stops being fun after the civil war

[wary sparrow]

romania focus tree is getting weaker by the day 🙏

[restive sable]

yugo's sucks too

[wary sparrow]

yeah but who EVER wants to play yugo

at least romania is kinda fun

yugo you just survive

maybe kill italy

but

[frail meteor]

i wanted them to do a little entente dlc, but czechs are getting a rework in this dlc

[weary estuary]

All of the nations that form yugo need trees so if you play it with yugo dissolved then you got fun options

[restive sable]

if only the tree didnt suck

[wary sparrow]

ay wait, imagine Chaos in the Balkan DLC, Albania, Romania, And Yugo rework

[frail meteor]

because all the nations are needed for a rework

[wary sparrow]

$50

to form greater yugoslavia

and fight the imro

trust

[restive sable]

albania gets to core the entire world with a 14 day focus

[wary sparrow]

albania united muslim world with new formable

trust the process

first you have to be puppeted by italy

then you peacefully annex everyone

then nuke italy

[frail meteor]

albania forms roman empire

[wary sparrow]

cause you have 80000 research bonuses for nuclear

[wary sparrow]

albanians woulld never stoop so low as to larp as italians

[frail meteor]

wdym albanians are the successors to the roman empire? not italy

[wary sparrow]

this is about their extent after a 35 day focus

ik pretty small but we have to balance it

[fair horizon]

Real

[eternal aspen]

i feel bad ngl

albania got nothing from their focus tree

anyone wanna play RoN mod for fun?

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[pale flare]

is there a way for manchuko to become independent from japan without going to war or nah?

[lilac ginkgo]

i could

never played it before tho

no clue on how it works

[quasi osprey]

yugo isnt actually that bad they have lots of building slots which allows for a large industry and most of its neighbors are weak

[quasi osprey]

probably if japan just goes ahistorical I guess

[lilac ginkgo]

i think ive outdone myself

maybe

poland is russia now

i reverse paritioned them

[timber laurel]

whaat mod is this

[quasi osprey]

which mod are u playing?

[lilac ginkgo]

red flood

[quasi osprey]

oh ok

[lilac ginkgo]

i quit because for some reason xinjang was released as independent after i killed them

so my whole army is stuck there and cant leave

but i think its more than enough

[quasi osprey]

maybe conquer them? or ask for mil access

[lilac ginkgo]

i cant

i literally annexed all of russia and xinjang but the game forcefully made most of them my allies instead of puppets

and xinjang was just not even an ally

thats how the mod works

and they wont accept military access cause we arent in the same war and i cant justify wars until 1945

[eternal aspen]

tis basically js long hoi4

[lilac ginkgo]

its different

and plus poland starts with nothing

then they give you focuses to build up but other focuses literally destroy it all because im accelerationist

[lilac ginkgo]

hm

well wym long

does it just take 10 times more to complete a focus

[eternal aspen]

no

like, it goes 1900 to 2060

[lilac ginkgo]

oh ok

[runic spoke]

found this tank template i designed back in like 2022...

[eternal aspen]

ye

[pale flare]

first time ive seen this happen

[runic spoke]

this truly is one of the tanks ever

[eternal aspen]

the meta of an old world

it worked

maybe

[lilac ginkgo]

r u still up to play the mod

[runic spoke]

im guessing i made it for plains tiles?

42width is crazy high

[runic spoke]

maybe lol

[eternal aspen]

havent started a run lately

but i can get on rn if you want

[runic spoke]

the image was named with russia in it so

i was probably playing kaiserredux rus tag

[eternal aspen]

who know

[lilac ginkgo]

up to you

i never played the mod

[eternal aspen]

alr, make sure it's installed

[lilac ginkgo]

ok im installing it

[runic spoke]

the infantry i had 🥀

just keeps getting worse

wow this is before they made arty require a seperate row

[misty fossil]

i also did 9 mot 4 towed arty for offensive back in the day

and wondered why i couldnt push

[runic spoke]

lmao

good times

[misty fossil]

the humble 14/4:

[eternal aspen]

but yet 9/2 pushes

same with 14/4

[runic spoke]

the oldest of metas...

[quasi osprey]

how did u make this template

[eternal aspen]

alr, while i wait for that ima keep playing supermarket together

[runic spoke]

this is from when the time infantry and artillery were the same group of units

[misty fossil]

thats a 2014 template, before the game existed

[lilac ginkgo]

i already got it

[runic spoke]

so u could stack them on the same column

[lilac ginkgo]

but dont rush it i can wait

dw

[eternal aspen]

kk

i'm js about to reach store lvl2, once i do i'll get on

anyone else wanna join us b4 we start?

[runic spoke]

waddat mean

tboi ref??

[quasi osprey]

idk how and why but playing as poland this was one of the units they gave me probably after integrating lithuania.💀

[eternal aspen]

in my game, i get new items to sell by leveling up, which involves selling stuff

[lilac ginkgo]

just to make sure this is it right

[runic spoke]

ah

[eternal aspen]

yea

[runic spoke]

ahh i remember 7/2s

[quasi osprey]

this was yesterday idk how the art is with infantry

[runic spoke]

SHIT!!!!

line arty sucks

[lilac ginkgo]

it depends

[runic spoke]

but u can use anything u want with green air so just make planes

[eternal aspen]

gah damn

alr i'm getting on RoN

[lilac ginkgo]

well thats a good way to run a store

you re going in debt d1

its fine

[eternal aspen]

nah, i started with capital

this means i lost nearly 3.4k in my first day

[lilac ginkgo]

i see

[eternal aspen]

that also includes merchandise and buying shelves

[lilac ginkgo]

does ron usually freeze up or is it just mine

yeah i guess

ok nvm

[eternal aspen]

it's a lil slow

[lilac ginkgo]

it froze up cause i switched the era

the mod does look nice

[eternal aspen]

tbf it's a huge mod, very ambitious

[lilac ginkgo]

are there focuses for all eras

[eternal aspen]

yea, it's like Iron Curtain with era based focus tree's iirc, so it makes sense

[lilac ginkgo]

are the focuses like maybe standard hoi4 size

[eternal aspen]

should, but i feel irl future is very barebones

[lilac ginkgo]

maybe ussr sized

it keeps freezing up

its fine

[eternal aspen]

USSR/full german size i'd say

[lilac ginkgo]

its because i change the era

thats nice

[eternal aspen]

some might have USA size focus tree's

[runic spoke]

what was i even doing 🥀

[eternal aspen]

but that's fine, less lag and whatnot

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah ig

what era u wanna play

[eternal aspen]

holding the beaches of normandy

[runic spoke]

that classic soviet atlantikwall

[eternal aspen]

wanna just start from 1900 and have the buildup to ww1 and maybe ww2?

[lilac ginkgo]

sure but how many hours will it take

[eternal aspen]

js waiting for the mod to finish up

[lilac ginkgo]

and do the focuses even update once the era passes

[eternal aspen]

yes, ik that much

[eternal aspen]

i wanna say 3 or 4 tops to get 45 years through, but we can always stop and start again the next day or another day

[lilac ginkgo]

i aint stopping buddy

[eternal aspen]

valid

ion got reason to

[lilac ginkgo]

well if u wanna end we can end

but personally i wont

[eternal aspen]

agreed, until i get too tired i'll stay on to play

[lilac ginkgo]

sure

[runic spoke]

ts tno long yun larp in vanilla from like 3 years ago

[eternal aspen]

or if my fiance yells at me to go to bed

[lilac ginkgo]

oh wow congrats man

you re getting married that must be nice

[eternal aspen]

some may say that

[lilac ginkgo]

is it a bad thing

[eternal aspen]

life is alr expensive as is

isn't horrible i'm getting married, just it's expensive regardless

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah i guess

i cant say much cause i aint got a clue

im almost 17 my parents still pay for most of my stuff

[eternal aspen]

i turned 19 last month, i literally felt more exhausted on my birthday lmfao

alr booting the mod rn

[runic spoke]

when ragnarok was possible

[lilac ginkgo]

i see

i dont even feel like doing anything for my bday but my parents kinda force me to go through with it

[eternal aspen]

exactly!

thankfully i don't live at home, i live some 150 or more miles away from my family, so :D

[lilac ginkgo]

honestly once im old enough to move away and have my own life ill just have a beer or 2 with my buddies

or if im married just do something nice enough with my family

[eternal aspen]

i wonder, what's the bg? is htat french defensive plans during ww2?

[lilac ginkgo]

probably

[runic spoke]

i turned 18 2 weeks ago, still like this for me

[lilac ginkgo]

well happy birthday i guess a bit late

[misty fossil]

damn yall are young

[lilac ginkgo]

but as i said

[runic spoke]

i am not ready to grow up

[misty fossil]

happy birthday

[lilac ginkgo]

once you move away you can do whatever you want to

[runic spoke]

and happy early birthday to you lol

[eternal aspen]

i don't feel it half the time lol

but thank you

[runic spoke]

yea but i dont wanna be broke/struggle yknow

[misty fossil]

enjoy it while you can

[runic spoke]

i dont think i'd be able to handle that in ts eco

[clear dagger]

me neither

[misty fossil]

sae

[lilac ginkgo]

you could just like do something small n cheap

[misty fossil]

same

i wish i could be a cat

[clear dagger]

i just want my expensive mappies in peace

[runic spoke]

fr

[lilac ginkgo]

whats a mappie

[eternal aspen]

So i was wrong

[runic spoke]

i swear i just woke up and was 18 one day

13-16 lowkey disappeared

[eternal aspen]

The bg warplans are for 4th Ypres

[clear dagger]

hoi4 is mappies

[lilac ginkgo]

oh

[runic spoke]

mappies ❤️

[lilac ginkgo]

I see

[eternal aspen]

Same thing though, french defence

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah

[eternal aspen]

This was during the spring offensive, the last shot the germans had to win before Americans landed

[runic spoke]

why didnt germany just lock in during the kaiserschlacht?

they must be stupid

[lilac ginkgo]

we all wonder

[runic spoke]

didnt have enough courage (hats off if anyone gets this ball)

[eternal aspen]

@lilac ginkgo what checksum do you have?

mines aab4

[eternal aspen]

alr, let's do this

you wanna host or me?

[lilac ginkgo]

you

i dont ahve thge dlcs

the

[eternal aspen]

kk

[lilac ginkgo]

do y all have like name celeberations

[eternal aspen]

90283949277148176

mb accidentally closed it

[lilac ginkgo]

its fine

[eternal aspen]

90283949277404176 this one

the... exact same?

hoi4 server ID's are weird

[lilac ginkgo]

i guess

it didnt work the first time

ig now it does

but its freezing up again

[eternal aspen]

yea that does happen on MP

for anyone else who wants to join
it's just Rise of nations mod on the latest stable version

[lilac ginkgo]

does romania have a focus tree

[runic spoke]

another ancient screenshot

no idea what happened here

i think this is around the time bba had just released

[quasi osprey]

Yes

[lilac ginkgo]

no

in ron

it doesnt

[quasi osprey]

Where?

In normal hoi4 romania does have a focus tree

[lilac ginkgo]

ron is a mod

rise of nations

[fair horizon]

Chat i have a horrible idea

Ill return later to show it

[winter fulcrum]

is there a spot to report bugs?

[misty fossil]

try digging on the pdx website

[heavy vigil]

no...

[mild plaza]

There's a bug report section on the forum

[lilac ginkgo]

is 12/2 good

[misty fossil]

never was

[lilac ginkgo]

12 is attack yes?

soft attack

[misty fossil]

no

ive never used line artillery ever

[lilac ginkgo]

me either

what is 12/2 then

[misty fossil]

9/0 for defense and tanks for attacking

idk

[lilac ginkgo]

what does 12 and what does 2 mean

[misty fossil]

where did you get that from

[lilac ginkgo]

my divisions

[misty fossil]

wha

[lilac ginkgo]

am i that dumb

[misty fossil]

idk 12 inf and 2 line aa for sov barb?

there's the 8 heavy TDs 8 mech 2 towed AA for sov

[lilac ginkgo]

what does the

12 mean

and 2

in 12/2

[misty fossil]

.

or maybe 12 inf and 2 line arty but thats even worse

[lilac ginkgo]

ok so then im running 15/0

15 infantry and no artillery

[misty fossil]

thats better

36w?

oh wait do 18/0

rush gun 3

[lilac ginkgo]

its 30w

[snow rain]

There is no reason ever to use 30w inf instead of 32 or 36w

[lilac ginkgo]

my divisions work just fine

ig

against ai

[snow rain]

Ai is abysmal dogshit at the game. Something working against it is in no way a confirmation that what you did is good
It's enough, sure, but not necesarilly good

[lilac ginkgo]

im just saying

if it works very well then i dont think i need better

[muted pecan]

why are my units attacking when i dont give an order? its losing me my front line over and over again. really annoying

[snow rain]

30w doesn't fill out any combat width correctly or take insane penalities doing it

32w is the best for general purpose, especially in mountains

36w is best on all other terrains

[snow rain]

You getting pushed back ?

[lilac ginkgo]

this is what im running

[snow rain]

Units that move around to reinforce will attack if the tile they were going into was lost

[lilac ginkgo]

should i add one more infantry to it

[heavy vigil]

awesome

[snow rain]

Useless recon and radio,no breakthrough stacking 😭

Light tank recon and medium flame tank are good way to get breakthrough in inf

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah but im playing a mod that has a 1900s start date

and then i dont have any dlcs

[heavy vigil]

why are we being mesn in gen chat wow

[lilac ginkgo]

its not mean

hes helping me

[heavy vigil]

oki its chill if youre cool with it

i cant read rn im too sleepy

[snow rain]

In that case you want at least field hospitals in the company. But atk inf is hard to make without dlcs sadly

[muted pecan]

no, the frontline has stabilized yet some units are just deciding to attack and end up killing themselves on the enemy and breaking my frontline

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah as i said,my divs destroy the ai

and im happy

[snow rain]

That's fine
I'm always tring to advise the best you can get but if you're satisfied, eh,who am I to tell you how to play

[lilac ginkgo]

yeah

i cant do much better

field hospitals sure

but flame tanks no

[snow rain]

Yeah, that too

[weak magnet]

me too

ifthey are good enough its ok anyone wil ltell u that

[weak magnet]

field hospitals are generally good right?

[snow rain]

Yup

[weak magnet]

also i have a question, when requesting forces, is a downside that the equipment comes solely from the puppet?

[fair horizon]

But it was like kinda good

[weak magnet]

i was translisthenia and took all the czech troops, but they ran out of manpower (germany went kaiserreich thankfully) so essentially it was just the prague province

so they quickly ran out of manpower

can i make these "requested forces" troops use my manpower?

[vital cove]

in big divisions

[heavy vigil]

what is/was it

[vital cove]

they're almost required

in small divisions they're not worth

[fair horizon]

I cant reveal the secret till i get home

But it involves line aa

[weak magnet]

yo yesterday you mocked me for using line aa

[heavy vigil]

oh no

[fair horizon]

I did no such thing

Mabye line arty

[weak magnet]

Oh mb

Yea

Tomato tomato

This saying doesnt sound good on text

[junior glacier]

tamato tomato

[eternal aspen]

@lilac ginkgo?

[junior glacier]

what

LMAO

[eternal aspen]

<@&846894118219022336>

thank you pookies

[quasi osprey]

how dare they demand eastern poland

[junior glacier]

is poland even poland or is it just russia

russia in collapsing world

[quasi osprey]

idk any more

the only obstacle between me and greater commonwealth is germany

[junior glacier]

i think we know the answer

demand danzig

[quasi osprey]

huh?

[junior glacier]

you demand danzig from germany

[quasi osprey]

oh like justify on core state?

[junior glacier]

danzig or war

its a joke

how germany demands danzig

[quasi osprey]

oh

[junior glacier]

do it back

😭

[quasi osprey]

[fair horizon]

rightful polish land

[eternal aspen]

wait, wasn't the marshal plan implemented after ww2?

[fair horizon]

@heavy vigil is this good

[eternal aspen]

as a way for the United States to fund reconstruction and development of Europe

[junior glacier]

just a plane at that point

[vital cove]

yes

[eternal aspen]

it's may 1900

[kind reef]

I was wondering why I am unable to invade Poland

then I realized

I only 95% of my divisions are infantry

[eternal aspen]

lol

that dont matter?

[quasi osprey]

[terse skiff]

You can easily beat AI with all infantry

[eternal aspen]

with enough 9/2 germany can march from bordeau to vladivostok without losing a battle

and it isn't even that good anymore

doctrines made 16/4 possible, and almost worthwhile with the right subdoctrines

[kind reef]

Ye but I still suck at the game

so I am unable to do it

[terse skiff]

Follow bittersteel's guide

You most likely have production/supply/air problems

[fair horizon]

when?

[swift valve]

I like I

[fair horizon]

chat rate the fleet

all australia built btw

[kind reef]

Nah nah it ain't any of them

I just like

don't know what to do during combat

[terse skiff]

Because you have problems with production, supply, and air

Just follow bittersteel's guide

[misty fossil]

not vnr 0/10

[fair horizon]

vnr big suck

[misty fossil]

ok

[eternal aspen]

NCNS

with the ability to reduce CW of arty and infantry

[fair horizon]

why not just use the ic on tanks

[eternal aspen]

cause tanks are hit or miss

and the AI usually uses stuff like medium HV cannons

on historical AI

alt-hist changes everything

and ull tank armies are hella meta

i get my grand doctrine unlocked soon, finally

it's almost a year ingame

as germany

[fair horizon]

[rich gulch]

Can someone help me with something

Every time I try to attack Poland as Germany I can’t do it

I literally have 50 SS divisions

[eternal aspen]

that's why

use 9 infantry with 2 artillery battalions

SS feld-division are usually crap

[rich gulch]

The polish front is so small I get no supplies

So I stack like 120 divisions on it

[lethal ether]

what? 😭

screenshot what youre doing

[rich gulch]

Can’t

I just lost

[eternal aspen]

i was about to show what to do for divisions

europe hasn't even attacked china

[lethal ether]

watch a guide to learn the basics

[lethal ether]

motorize your supply hubs

hows your org? strenght?

templates?

[rich gulch]

I have 25 divisions attacking 3 divisions and I’m still losing

I’m going insane

[lethal ether]

are you sure they arent fighting with rocks

[terse skiff]

Not equipped? Low supply? Red air? Added land cruisers to them and you're crossing a river?

[lethal ether]

are they at full strenght?

[terse skiff]

There are many reasons

Can you post the combat screen?

[rich gulch]

30 divisions attack Warsaw and I’m still losing this game is not real

[lethal ether]

are you ignoring us or something

😭

[rich gulch]

I’m literally about to uninstall what is this game

It makes no sense

[fair horizon]

post a sceenshot

[rich gulch]

I just lost I can’t show anything

The thing I hate the most is looking at the leader of the German republic

Every time I lose and every time I look at his face I want to smash my monitor

[terse skiff]

Then show us the frontline

[fair horizon]

its probably a simple fix tbh

[terse skiff]

It does make sense. You're either most likely not being supplied or not being equipped considering it's AI poland

[lethal ether]

it makes sense. give 30k men rocks to fight with and they will lose against 2k properly armed men

its just logic

how are they supposed to fight if they dont have stuff to fight with or they dont have supplies

[quasi osprey]

[heavy vigil]

bleehh

[rich gulch]

And the funniest thing is when I play as Germany in 1939 and I just give random orders and they blitz Poland LIKE WHAT

I HAVE TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF DIVISIONS ON MY OWN RUN

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for poland 1943?

[lethal ether]

you may have triple the amount of divisions but do oyu have triple the amount of guns to give them

[quasi osprey]

[lethal ether]

or triple the amount of supply

[rich gulch]

I have 25 factories on infantry equipment

[fair horizon]

just show us a screenshot

[rich gulch]

Supplies are the most frustrating thing in this game I don’t know why it exists

[rich gulch]

I LOST

[misty fossil]

Where is that meme with 1 camel division pushing 10 tanks

[lethal ether]

to not make it a clicking simulator

[misty fossil]

This

[terse skiff]

Are you dense? We told you to post screenshot of frontline

[rich gulch]

Bro I lost I can’t do anything I can’t go back it’s Ironman

[lethal ether]

i think he is just ragebaiting

[misty fossil]

no hes a new player

[rich gulch]

I’m now the German republic

[misty fossil]

also

[heavy vigil]

congrats

[misty fossil]

dont play ironman its a scam

[rich gulch]

I have never hated a face so much

[quasi osprey]

now who is partinioning everyone

how is this guy still alive????????????

[rich gulch]

Does someone want to play multiplayer with me

[prisma zealot]

pure satisfaction

[crude field]

1941

[eternal aspen]

proof 16/4 is possible

and it is as scary as it sounds

[prisma zealot]

(my first time winning the spanish civil war lol)

[eternal aspen]

what's the vanilla CW of artillery?

[heavy vigil]

3

[tiny iris]

Rate my defences.

[strong umbra]

yippee

[eternal aspen]

chat hear me out

[eternal aspen]

thank you

[rich gulch]

Ok I’m relaxed and starting off with Italy

[quasi osprey]

[eternal aspen]

(16x2)-((16x2)x0.3)=22.4
(4x3)-((4x3)x0.8)=2.4
22.4+2.4=24.8
which is a relatively well rounded infantry for multi-use purposes across the frontline

like, this could pass for a real division with that CW

[cursive oxide]

Why

[eternal aspen]

ironman mode just sucks

[cursive oxide]

Why to ?

[eternal aspen]

you can't save and load incase you make a major mess up at a major turning point or smth similar, and it just plain sucks

[misty fossil]

to what

ironman isnt fun and i play for fun

thats about it

[ripe slate]

The game isnt polished enough to play without backup saves

[misty fossil]

yeah

and i play with mods

[eternal aspen]

@misty fossil so 16/4 works

[misty fossil]

nobody is taking vnr away from me

really?

[eternal aspen]

yea

[misty fossil]

show me

lol

[eternal aspen]

the math is here

with these doctrines

[cursive oxide]

A true the ai can srew you're hole run

[quasi osprey]

💀

[misty fossil]

oh

[eternal aspen]

Large Unit Tactics, and Fire Concentration

[cursive oxide]

Only reason I play iron man is achievements

[eternal aspen]

use SAM

[misty fossil]

i have 17 achievements lol

[eternal aspen]

does the same, minus the headache

i have 31

but that's bc i did a lot of the DLC specific ones

[grave sonnet]

I think ur missing some steel

[quasi osprey]

a bit

[grave sonnet]

Just a bit dw

[cursive oxide]

I have like 26

[quasi osprey]

and thats considering I have 252 steel for use

[eternal aspen]

like 4th reich, or Play It, Sam

[misty fossil]

nice

[cursive oxide]

I have some hard one's as welll

[grave sonnet]

Mhm

[uncut pollen]

I always play ironman

Its great

[misty fossil]

crazy how you can put up with vanilla navy

i know i cant

[cursive oxide]

I almost always do

[cursive oxide]

??? As in you use mods or ?

[quasi osprey]

although I can buy 320 steel for 4 civs idk🤷‍♂️

[cursive oxide]

Do it

[misty fossil]

yeah i use mods

vanilla navy is bland

[grave sonnet]

Buying from puppet?

[quasi osprey]

wont it raise autonomy of the subject?

[quasi osprey]

yes

[cursive oxide]

Idk

[grave sonnet]

Yes

[azure dagger]

it will

[grave sonnet]

Trading riases

[quasi osprey]

by a lot?

[azure dagger]

not really

[willow egret]

The British navy is genuinely cracked 🤞🏻🫩

[grave sonnet]

Not much to do damage

[quasi osprey]

I will try and see

I have a few subjects

[cursive oxide]

What nation you playing?

[azure dagger]

damn you have italy as puppet

crazy

[quasi osprey]

italy should thank me it will finally have oil and rubber

[cursive oxide]

Do I try to form Austria Hungary in a mp game ? In 1936 cus I can

[rich gulch]

Guys I won

[quasi osprey]

huh????????

[cursive oxide]

First time ?

[rich gulch]

Second

[cursive oxide]

Oke

[rich gulch]

I needed a YouTube tutorial for the hoi4 tutorial

[cursive oxide]

Why

[rich gulch]

Because the tutorial is hard

And hoi4 actually has a YouTube vid for the tutorial

[cursive oxide]

A tutorial for the tutorial?

[rich gulch]

Yes

[quasi osprey]

Iron Curtain 2.0

[cursive oxide]

Allies and comiturn?

[quasi osprey]

allies and commonwealth

[cursive oxide]

Why do the have the same Colour?

[fair horizon]

its cracked if you mean like an egg

[quasi osprey]

wdym

[azure dagger]

its faction map mode

poland-lithuania is the faction leader right

that makes their color to be the faction`s color

[cursive oxide]

A oke

[quasi osprey]

yeah

I caused quite a bit of world tension

[azure dagger]

nice

[quasi osprey]

not really the brits will guarantee any nation I justify on

[azure dagger]

kill the british

[quasi osprey]

[quasi osprey]

it will be hard they have half the world on their side

[quasi osprey]

especcially usa who has around 500 factories

[rich gulch]

Which one should I do

[clever shuttle]

Italy, my first ally (:

[vital cove]

Balkan ambition

[rich gulch]

Why

[vital cove]

i mean it doesn't matter much

[rich gulch]

Ok then

[vital cove]

but Balkan ambition can get u a free wargoal

on yugo

or a puppet, which is worse but copeable

[rich gulch]

But Romania is guaranteeing Yugoslavia

And I certainly can’t take them both

[azure dagger]

balkan ambition

you can get yugoslavia as puppet

[azure dagger]

yugo accept every ultimatum

do ambition

[rich gulch]

I want to get the Roman Empire

Tbh should I think strongly about what I do before I do it

Is this game supposed to be played slow

[cursive oxide]

Yeah you won't on you're second game as Italy it's like every nation it takes a few runs to now how to play it and Italy is hard cus no resources and I need to fight the allies if you want Roman empire

[rich gulch]

I got Albania now what do I do to puppet Yugoslavia

[cursive oxide]

In the desions tap

[rich gulch]

Which one

[icy crescent]

Is the Ultimatum.

[cursive oxide]

Get dalmtia first to

Free land

[rich gulch]

Oh

I didn’t lol

I just puppetted

[icy crescent]

You can get it afterwards anyway.

[rich gulch]

How do I proclaim greater Italy

That’s more realistic right

[icy crescent]

Get the Greater Italy focus.

[cursive oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-doge-gif-24837098

Italy vs yugo be like

[rich gulch]

I have insufficient energy

What do I do

Ok I traded coal with the us im fine

[winged field]

the research next to production cap also helps

[rich gulch]

Yeah I’m researching that

Should I do towards a greater Italy or mare nostrum

And what about Italy first and pact of steel

[ripe slate]

Mare Nostrum is stronger if you dont mind solo'ing the Allies

[rich gulch]

I mind I’m literally new to this game

[ripe slate]

Go Italy First Id recommend

Or Stresa Front with the Allies by guaranteeing Austria

theyre weaker but easier paths

[sly venture]

time to do byzantium on iron man

[rich gulch]

But I’ll get destroyed

[ripe slate]

Nah the Allies will help you out with that path

Everyone against Germany

[rich gulch]

Ok then will that help me proclaim greater Italy

I want to control most of the Mediterranean

[ripe slate]

Not really but you get to puppet parts of Germany

[rich gulch]

After the war?

[ripe slate]

Yeee

[rich gulch]

This is my current state how do I annex Yugoslavia

[ripe slate]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[sly venture]

built in them or give them guns

[rich gulch]

But should I annex them

Also why are italys generals so bad

[quasi osprey]

is this ok for poland?

[rich gulch]

What template should I use for infantry

[eternal aspen]

man how do i know GDP in RON?

like, it doesn't show me anywhere

i'm adding TWR GDP mod just to have a rough sense of GDP

[eternal aspen]

use some anti-tank and you could hold back germany

like, you double what the usual AI's manpower count is

[quasi osprey]

what germany😇

[eternal aspen]

oh... lmfao

mb, i mean the unnamed state you may or may not be on uneasy terms with

[eternal aspen]

same as always, italy is harder than germany imo

[quasi osprey]

no more partitions

[rich gulch]

Really? I enjoy Italy a lot more than Germany

[eternal aspen]

personal preference then i would say

i find italy harder bc it's much smaller frontlines

you tend to spend more on expensive but good units than cheap but mid units

[rich gulch]

What infantry template should I use

[eternal aspen]

i would say 9/3 with cav recon, and shovel support recon with support artillery

it'll be able to hold against most of what britain throws at you, it can hold coasts well

[rich gulch]

What’s 9/3

[eternal aspen]

9 infantry, 3 artillery

though i think 9/2 is more optimal

[rich gulch]

What should I do

[misty fossil]

9/3 with large unit and fire concentration?

[eternal aspen]

retract guarentees

[misty fossil]

otherwise never use line artillery

only use support arty

[eternal aspen]

that... would be bad ngl

[misty fossil]

then dont use 9/3

[rich gulch]

Why

[eternal aspen]

germany annexes austria without a fight

and rn, you cannot fight germany, at all

[rich gulch]

But my war support and stability will drop

[eternal aspen]

like, their basic infantry would destroy your tanks

[eternal aspen]

it goes up

you have plenty of ways to increase them ngl

[rich gulch]

Should I give somaliland and Djibouti to Italian east Africa

Although I don’t see how it benefits me

[woven gate]

yeah because then if you go to war you don't have to call Italian East Africa in, meaning you don't have to worry about that front

[sly venture]

the iron man ru is going well so far

[fair horizon]

i oneshot their scouting fleet

it all died to naval bombers instantly

[dry kayak]

doing a game... in 3 yrs every nation joined a single one WTF

[shell scroll]

anybody have some good tutorial vids on how to play this game

[quasi osprey]

ahh peaceful world

[waxen girder]

swizterland most op country ngl

trust

[clever shuttle]

100 million milestone

I have conquered almost all of asia, my plan is to either break istanbul or take gribaltar, dont know which one comes first

[waxen girder]

wtf

why is germany on the allies

oh did they become democracy

[clever shuttle]

cuz the allies won the cold war

[waxen girder]

oh its modded

what mod?

[clever shuttle]

no mods

[waxen girder]

cold war doesnt exist in main game?

[clever shuttle]

just all dlcs idrk

[clever shuttle]

yeah it does tho, after ww2 two sider appear

[waxen girder]

hmm

maybe

i think ive seen it kind of form

but not the way it was irl

[clever shuttle]

yeah

[waxen girder]

how long did it take you to do all that lmao?

[clever shuttle]

i think the war has been now maybe 25-30 years

[rich gulch]

But I’m in an alliance with France and the uk

[clever shuttle]

there are so many units

[waxen girder]

how many you got in field

[quasi osprey]

I hate this💀

[clever shuttle]

34 million

[waxen girder]

damn

i thought it would be more tho lwk

you got all of asia

[clever shuttle]

its all just mechanized soo thats why

[waxen girder]

you got low conscription laws?

[clever shuttle]

nah i have 80 million manpower but i have no use for it

[waxen girder]

ah right

[clever shuttle]

i have deleted some of my armies cuz they are not needed

[quasi osprey]

I have almost a full army just from my puppets

[plush pine]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-easter-easter-sunday-easter-bunny-easter-eggs-easter-basket-gif-16836117

[sly venture]

pls work

[quasi osprey]

I have finally dealt with it

[quasi osprey]

even better

[quasi osprey]

finally

are you sure about that???

[sly venture]

NOOOOOO

[rich gulch]

Should I declare war on Greece as Italy

( Romania is guaranteeing)

( I’m in the allies)

[proud tapir]

sure, you get a free Romania

[radiant imp]

whats the most op tank division if im cheating

[rich gulch]

But I’m not sure I can handle them

And France is guaranteeing Romania but I’m in the allies with France

So will France attack me

And turkey is also guaranteeing Romania

[quasi osprey]

I am so scared

[rich gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[dry kayak]

They are not building, anybody knows why?

[rich gulch]

Help my troops are trapped

[wheat drum]

im playing a huge muliplayer game later, im awful at the game lol. does anyone have some good CAS and infantry templates?

[fair horizon]

i love naval invasions

[patent thistle]

first ever switz carrier

[rich gulch]

Guys I have low manpower what do I do

[fair horizon]

raise conscription

[patent thistle]

raise conscription

[rich gulch]

I did raise it

[ripe slate]

Wait then, it ticks up slowly to the set value

[fair horizon]

raise it again

[rich gulch]

Oh ok I see it now

[patent thistle]

he has to wait until his manpower actually adjusts to the uptick

[patent thistle]

@fair horizon

[rich gulch]

I have 0 fuel

What do I do

[fair horizon]

i seen it

[patent thistle]

build synthetics

[rich gulch]

Can I build them in my puppets

[vocal bolt]

why cant I sent images

[quasi osprey]

62 divs just from my puppets💀

is this ok for poland?

[upper tendon]

62 per day?

[quasi osprey]

no

[upper tendon]

Ur puppets are weird then

[quasi osprey]

ok now 71 divs

[proud tapir]

no chain guarantees

since you technicaly dont attack Romania

they attack you after you attack a country they guarantee

[quasi osprey]

I wonder why its at war

[patent thistle]

its italy they spam divisions like there is no tomorrow

[quasi osprey]

not only

[quasi osprey]

more than half is russian

[patent thistle]

switz navy going good

[quasi osprey]

germany germany I expected more from you🤦

didnt even put up a fight

ignoring poland this is actually quite similar to modern borders

[quasi osprey]

polish power

[patent thistle]

switz navy getting quite good

[wary sparrow]

Might be able to rival the Mongolian one soon

[patent thistle]

i have a coastline

[wary sparrow]

Shhhh... they'll hear you

[wary sparrow]

Might have to reconquer the steppe then

[patent thistle]

and hungary as a puppet state

[wary sparrow]

How'd you get corsica

The focus doesn't give you that

[patent thistle]

got it from vichy

[wary sparrow]

Killed vichy?

[patent thistle]

i litterally just took the island and some states cause they refused the alps

[pulsar saffron]

GLORY TO THE BRAZILIAN SOCIALIST REPUBLIC

[wary sparrow]

Oh but germany didnt declare on you? They guarantee them

Usually

[patent thistle]

they didnt for me for some reason when i decleared

[wary sparrow]

Lucky you ig

[pulsar saffron]

silly anglos thought my scotland landing was the main force 😝

[patent thistle]

lets ignore that you dont have any generals on half your army

[wary sparrow]

I like how Italy literally gives up most of their industry when Switzerland just asks

Kinda funny

[pulsar saffron]

do i really need them

[patent thistle]

it especially hurts in the military economy part

[pulsar saffron]

theyd all be level 1 field commanders promoted

[patent thistle]

yes, they give buffs.

[wary sparrow]

Better than nothing

[patent thistle]

even that is enough

[wary sparrow]

Lvl 1 still gives stats

[sly venture]

this is an immovable fortress

[sly venture]

they aint even attacking anymore

[wary sparrow]

They ain't even on the front

Wait there's a little lake there

Always forget

[patent thistle]

that aint shit

this. is a fortress.

[worn cliff]

Switzerlane worst country in the game with yurkey

Absolute excel sheet gameplay

Nothing is intuitive

[sly venture]

there is a level 8 fort in every tile

[patent thistle]

still nothing

[sly venture]

what ports bro

[worn cliff]

Switzerland owns gibraltar

[quasi osprey]

scammer

I think I should stop this run now because it took too long

[patent thistle]

<@&846894118219022336>

[royal marten]

Nothing worse then wanting to play hoi4 mp and seeing this 😭

@hollow pulsar nuke this man please

[patent thistle]

i already pinged the mods dw

[royal marten]

Didn't see it

my bad

[patent thistle]

8 tanks for germany and soon 20 mountaineers for italy

[lost nymph]

Hey guys, I really dont get it when a country is in a civil war have volunteers from me. Because I pushed they almost win the fight and suddenly they join the allies and dragged into a war against Stalin the countries never stops their civil war and ofc my units and general is stuck. Is this a buck or feature?

[quasi osprey]

[patent thistle]

(Sadly) a feature

[lost nymph]

sounds broken to me

[patent thistle]

volunteers will only leave once the war ends