hoi4-general

[ivory hull]

whats the usual tank template of yours?

[knotty vortex]

guys

how do i actually

become good

like

i need serious help

[ivory hull]

just play more

[copper silo]

Yes

[jagged acorn]

Depends. Usually evolve it as I go.

[knotty vortex]

i have 200 hours and cant win the spanish civil war bro

[jagged acorn]

For example.

[knotty vortex]

is it over for me

[jagged acorn]

This is my starter guys in Japan.

[ivory hull]

i couldnt do it on my first try at like 600h

just play and learn

[knotty vortex]

what country do you find fun and not too hard

[ivory hull]

but like a tank division youd actuually use against good enemies

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil i made an economical mobilization/demobilization system for the new mod im making :D

[ivory hull]

germany

[knotty vortex]

ive played germany so many times

[heavy vigil]

im so proud of you !!

[ivory hull]

then play the soviets

or just modded

[knotty vortex]

i guess i could play the soviets

ill do that

[heavy vigil]

idk minor countries are more fun imo but harder

try prc

communist china

[knotty vortex]

they are

minors are fun

[heavy vigil]

minor into major

[daring geyser]

bored with sp? try hopping on a comp hist lobby

[knotty vortex]

i actually did try this but i honestly didnt expand

we just beat japan

and i just remained

small

[heavy vigil]

then expand

unite the nation

then join in against the germans

[knotty vortex]

idk how the focus tree was confusing as hell

[heavy vigil]

do the military side and manually justify

[knotty vortex]

all i know was mao zedong cause hes not a very nice fello

[ivory hull]

you gotta get an actual good group to enjoy mp

[heavy vigil]

left side is kinda not as important as like 4 mil spawn in

[knotty vortex]

ill give ita try

[daring geyser]

depends

rb can be fun

stay away from fuwg tho

[ivory hull]

i tried doing like random matches and it was dead after like 1 hour

everybody left or just desynced

[daring geyser]

that's why you don't do random matches lol

[knotty vortex]

chinese soviet republic right?

[daring geyser]

that's not how you play any serious hoi4 mp game

[heavy vigil]

just get down to the mil spawn ins ASAP by any means necessary

[jagged acorn]

Don't have a screenshot of my Tank templates.

...but if I was making up one on the spot?

7 Mediums. 7 Mech. One Armour AA. One Armour AT. Eng Corp. Log Corp. Rec Corp. Sig Corp. Mat Corp.

Don't quote me on that. But it works for me in single player and whenever I have MP.

[heavy vigil]

and then go do politics whenever youre locked out

[jolly pier]

COME ON I'VE ALMOST GOT HIM

[heavy vigil]

or are bored

[knotty vortex]

what troops do i focus?

im gonna research AA

what else do i get

[gray fiber]

where is hoi1 dawg

[ivory hull]

medium spgs would work better, also making it 36w would be the best choice as its the best for offensive measures

[gray fiber]

is it even a thing

[heavy vigil]

militia with support arty

maybe AA

[knotty vortex]

thats middle tree right?

[heavy vigil]

and make them larger

[heavy vigil]

right side

mil spawn ins are in the popular army branch

[knotty vortex]

i need to go down left for that for militia buffs

[jagged acorn]

So extra Med and Extra Mech and a bit of Self propelled. Alright. Noted.

I will try it later in my game to see.

THANK YOU, BROTHER.

[heavy vigil]

just go all the way down

youll find it

[knotty vortex]

okay

[ivory hull]

i usually use 10 medium spgs and then 8 motorized/mechanized and dont forget to use flame tanks

theyre really good

[jagged acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/claudio-keanu-iliade-gif-8593089299268767402

[heavy vigil]

and with your first like 80 pp justify on shanxi then the other dude

itll take like 100-200 days to justify

and will bypass foci

saves time at the cost of pp

[severe lion]

why did france do ts

there goes my run

[copper cobalt]

Bc it is a very french thing to do

[knotty vortex]

375...

nevermind i can do retake core state

[severe lion]

w speed

[jolly pier]

PLEASE WORK

[knotty vortex]

ningxia?

[gray fiber]

i need help

[severe lion]

add support art to inf

or art bat

[heavy vigil]

yes

[knotty vortex]

ok

i fear

im gonna die

[heavy vigil]

why

you get unit spawn ins

they dont

you can encircle stuff in the north because desert works like plains

pin stuff etc

just make like 1 factory guns then 1 arty then further on guns until like 15

[knotty vortex]

i also fear i dont know how different terrains work

[heavy vigil]

2 on arty

then up on guns etc

dont need as much arty eventually

but small divs will use more

[knotty vortex]

idk how im supposed to be getting these mils

none of the rightside focuses give them

[knotty vortex]

how am i supposed to win this

i have 8 troops

what do i even do about this

im genuinely so clueless about what im supposed to be doing

[opal nymph]

Don't kill him

Or larp and send to the Soviets first

[knotty vortex]

but didnt i wanna expand

so why did i ally with china

asia might be the most confusing thing in this game

[opal nymph]

You ally because otherwise you die

You can do infiltration and such so you gain land when you do declare war

[knotty vortex]

arent they just gonna steal all the land when i declare war now

because their army is huge now

so theyll join my wars

[opal nymph]

Wdym declare war

[knotty vortex]

and just take the victory points

[opal nymph]

You dont declare war

You have focuses to take some nearby states, but it is too late for that now

[knotty vortex]

on shanxi

[heavy vigil]

youre already late

[knotty vortex]

bruh i got told to declare war

[opal nymph]

Why did you justify

[knotty vortex]

bro i need that photo

the one of the guys on the bus

[heavy vigil]

you could be at war before you get the south thing

[opal nymph]

Read your focuses

[knotty vortex]

thinking about playing hoi4

[opal nymph]

And know your focus tree

[knotty vortex]

actually playing hoi4

[heavy vigil]

dont play on 5 speed

god

[knotty vortex]

BRO

i got told not to do the focuses

[opal nymph]

Wait what

[heavy vigil]

yeah

[opal nymph]

We not doing historical fun time

[heavy vigil]

its faster to justify ASAP

but like

you can justify when you have like 30 pp

first month

gotta start doing it the first month

[knotty vortex]

but im not going to win that war

im just gonna get stood on

[heavy vigil]

you will

ive won it several times before

its not that hard

[knotty vortex]

for you

[opal nymph]

I've just played 28 1/2 bolsheviks path and I didn't have a bad time

[knotty vortex]

if i die im just gonna

hang up the boots

and say farewell to hoi4

[opal nymph]

You can peacefully annex China with that path

You can do peaceful reunification

And win

[opal nymph]

Black text, dark background

[heavy vigil]

here i explained the playthrpugh a bit in messages below @knotty vortex

[opal nymph]

Master of graphic design

[knotty vortex]

ill try that

[heavy vigil]

if you need it more in detail, i was texting as i did the gaming

[clever shuttle]

@daring geyser @heavy vigil what should i do? they have like 45 million casualties should i wait or what am i even supposed to do?

[knotty vortex]

where do i get the artillery from

[heavy vigil]

wdym

you put your second mil on it

then after that everything new on gun

research gun

[knotty vortex]

and what should my template look like

[clever shuttle]

pllls @heavy vigil

[heavy vigil]

maybe you like this better

[heavy vigil]

idk

never been in your situation

[clever shuttle]

brooooo imagine you are in this situation then

[woeful knoll]

Do you want total war?

either the chinese people will gain victory or they will all die

[clever shuttle]

what is that bro

[woeful knoll]

<@&846894118219022336>

[woeful knoll]

Scraping the barrel

War econemy

[clever shuttle]

freaky ahh kiddo

[woeful knoll]

Battleplan

thats the strat for china

[clever shuttle]

you mean i like go in to full war and lose men but they lose more?

[woeful knoll]

yes

you have the most population

[clever shuttle]

but they have india

[woeful knoll]

Non core india

india is weak

if you take india

conscript all your non core panpower

[clever shuttle]

how

[woeful knoll]

scrping the barrel

[clever shuttle]

never thought about that actually

what about i go strategic

i have 100% colleberation on the raj

[woeful knoll]

then attack them

[little yarrow]

I find the production penalty is too high for scraping barrell to be effective

[clever shuttle]

are u sure it will work?

[woeful knoll]

It doesnt need to work

its 1974 and your china

[heavy vigil]

i mean you have more manpower than them combined

so probably

[knotty vortex]

bro

i dont even know anymore

[heavy vigil]

i told you

attack north

youre attacking east

[woeful knoll]

Why are you at war

[heavy vigil]

over a river into mountains

[knotty vortex]

but what about the east

[heavy vigil]

instead of the north where theres no river and no mountains

you leave it be until youve killed some guys

[woeful knoll]

Youcan do a raid that removes all the enemy divs org and then immidietly do the decision to border war them

[heavy vigil]

unless you see an amazing opportunity to push where its like 4v1

and even then youll probably lose

[daring geyser]

this is.. umazing....

[heavy vigil]

do you feel educated

[daring geyser]

i made a similar one

long time ago

rember

[knotty vortex]

doesnt look promising

[heavy vigil]

no i have dementia

[heavy vigil]

youre pushing into a tile with 6 guys

which is great

but youre not gonna win the battle

encircle the 6 guys

thats massive

and dont battleplan omg

[knotty vortex]

where man

[heavy vigil]

you have to micro

use 2 guys to take this

[knotty vortex]

but no tiles are free

[heavy vigil]

take thos

this*

force attack btw its good

stop attacking over the river

[knotty vortex]

okay we're just losing tiles now

[heavy vigil]

and keep the big stack in place with any attack even if its red, but still only attack with fully equipped guys

then PAUSE

[knotty vortex]

this cannot be good for my health

[heavy vigil]

youre asking for help and youre just not pausing

like what do u want

lock in

[knotty vortex]

im trying to lock in 🥹

[heavy vigil]

also idk you should have more divs out? idk how you manage to not deploy new stuff afaik you get spawn ins and stuff

[woeful knoll]

Do a border war

[heavy vigil]

you can do that but its like ough

[knotty vortex]

nope i didnt get anything

[heavy vigil]

you dont get the mil spawn ins in time

[heavy vigil]

accept the army in events

and cooperate focus also gives guys

[knotty vortex]

ill do that next

[heavy vigil]

and why did you do 3 rulers

thats just a waste of 70 whole days

[knotty vortex]

because i couldnt do any of the others focuses on your drawing

so i did that one

because it on there

[heavy vigil]

you should be able to

i think

like cooperate

free units

or the political tree

[knotty vortex]

im gonna restart cause china wanna make the united front

[heavy vigil]

you can go back to the message i linked and i explain it like, to the best of my ability to play that nation

[smoky prairie]

HMS King Arthur. Lead ship of a class of Advanced Super-Heavy Battleships built by the Royal Navy:

[clever shuttle]

@woeful knoll i listened to u and look at ts

[knotty vortex]

what do i research

from day 1

[heavy vigil]

gun

and production

1 slot on each

[knotty vortex]

okay

[heavy vigil]

i think you may need to research art 1?

i forgot tbh

if you ever want AA or trains just buy license for AA or buy trains from USSR market

theyll give like 10-15

[knotty vortex]

the very first art one is done

[heavy vigil]

ok then you have enough

[knotty vortex]

buy license for AA?

[vocal bolt]

how did paradox decine on focus day legnth ?

like why 70

I get 35 bc its like half of 70

but before that small focuses were 28 days

and there are also 14 day focuses

[knotty vortex]

okay i can go to war

can you help me here

[heavy vigil]

later

gaming rn

[vocal bolt]

how do I unsend volunteers

[heavy vigil]

ok whats up

[knotty vortex]

this

[heavy vigil]

also i advice you take care of your mental health and take a / tea / break if needed

[heavy vigil]

you should always be zoomed in and looking to encircle/kill

[knotty vortex]

i only did that for the photo

[heavy vigil]

youre again kinda late with your action

[knotty vortex]

im only manually moving troops

[knotty vortex]

ive been trying to push though

but its so slow

[heavy vigil]

and all your units should be militia

[knotty vortex]

we end up getting stuck at like 70 green

[heavy vigil]

turn the cav to militia

[heavy vigil]

do i need to load hoi and show you live

i could even on call but cant talk

[knotty vortex]

that would be helpful honestly

give me 1 minute

[heavy vigil]

take your time

[knotty vortex]

okay im ready

[heavy vigil]

i forgot my game music is on

ill turn it off when it eventually loads

[knotty vortex]

lmao i play with it on

[heavy vigil]

tell me when i can start

idrc about japan war thats on you btw

[knotty vortex]

yeah thats all good

[tired jackal]

don't ever give up gng

[heavy vigil]

following or

[knotty vortex]

yes i am

[heavy vigil]

oki

btw look at this focus

[knotty vortex]

yes i see that

very far down the line

[heavy vigil]

its rlly good

[knotty vortex]

okay ill get it

[heavy vigil]

here you get your second mil

[knotty vortex]

yes i put that on art

[heavy vigil]

so getting it ASAP is good

see how these 80 days left

so from here theres only time for 2 pre war focuses

also tbh that might be a mistake

[knotty vortex]

then get that middle focus?

[heavy vigil]

maybe its better to leave that mil on gun 0

and then new on better gun

but whatever

[knotty vortex]

wait so

two guns 0 arty?

[heavy vigil]

you can edit your unit and still pick this

1 arty first

but everything new

youll get more

now no focus

theres exactly 10 days left on justification, and focuses have a 10 day buffer

[severe lion]

send me commies again i fing dare u

[tired jackal]

i would restart

you got unlucky

[tired jackal]

❤️

[knotty vortex]

what the hell is that

what did you just do

with the swords

[severe lion]

hard carried by usa

[severe lion]

irregulars

[tired jackal]

i killed 3 million gremans

germans*

[heavy vigil]

ping tiles

ill attack there

[severe lion]

easy

[tired jackal]

i was in a three year deadlock in defense

[knotty vortex]

oh cool

never seen that

[tired jackal]

🥀

against a buffed ger

[severe lion]

i could do that but 10x faster

or do them

idk

[tired jackal]

i was doing french empire

[severe lion]

just extend maginot

[tired jackal]

and i was running 5 speed

tryna do heavy tank converision strat

but half ass

😭

[heavy vigil]

look at the stats you get for clicking a few buttons

[tired jackal]

oh what militia?

i love communist china militia

i made an entire army filled with japanese equipment

90% equipment capture

[severe lion]

what in the f

soviet onion rlly doing their job

[runic spoke]

cas might be the most unfun thing ever created

[tired jackal]

both in warthunder an hoi4

[runic spoke]

if ur using tanks at least

[tired jackal]

anti air tanks

adjust

[runic spoke]

literally i cant even take a single tile without getting pushed out

[tired jackal]

😭

[runic spoke]

i would love to

[tired jackal]

make somethin to help

put some mils off tanks into anti air

[runic spoke]

if it wasnt for the brigade size BS they added after NCNS

[tired jackal]

or convert some tanks into anti air

[runic spoke]

i physically cannot fit them onto the division atm

i need more doctrine

[tired jackal]

what countrry

[runic spoke]

playing as poland in KR

[tired jackal]

i wish tanks were more

[heavy vigil]

@knotty vortex are you following so far, sorry if its like fast

[tired jackal]

customizable

same for planes

but every mod is outdated

[heavy vigil]

you stop force attacks by reassigning to frontline

[knotty vortex]

yeah its okay

[heavy vigil]

it ceases their attack order

[runic spoke]

I just wish anti air was more potent

[knotty vortex]

what does force attack actually do

[runic spoke]

or cas was less potent

[heavy vigil]

give you 20% attack in battle

[tired jackal]

anti air is good

base anti air can pierce ai tank divs

[runic spoke]

before NCNS cas was way less strong (but still insane)

[heavy vigil]

also stops you losing org at the cost of losing hp

[runic spoke]

now its like they cranked that up to 10000

[heavy vigil]

but its ok shanxi doesnt damage you anyway

[knotty vortex]

okay i see

i can try again

see what i can do

micro is just super hard

[tired jackal]

well KR

also buffs it to

[runic spoke]

maybe if ger ai wasnt useless and sent planes 🥀

everywhere is red air on the eastern front

[tired jackal]

ger has prioteries

[runic spoke]

doing any sort of maneuver is extremely difficult when taking 1 tile takes 80% of ur org cuz of cas damage

[tired jackal]

every ai is coded to act differently

based on what u do

britain in base game is coded to not join in on france

[runic spoke]

yea thats true

[knotty vortex]

@heavy vigil can i see your industry rq

[runic spoke]

i wish they were coded to make at least ONE air zone green tho sheesh

[tired jackal]

countries also take different choices

if you go into other

[severe lion]

italy wtf

[tired jackal]

focuses

uk goes communist with italy

if u go monarchy ger

[severe lion]

france go fascist

[tired jackal]

yeah that to

[severe lion]

and lithuania

[tired jackal]

but monarchy germany

literally gives you free land

on everything

[severe lion]

for whatever reason

[tired jackal]

you can take half of europe without war

[severe lion]

attacks poland

[tired jackal]

getting poland cores for free

[severe lion]

and core all of europe

[tired jackal]

napleonic france poland and lithunia team up

[tired jackal]

yeah it overpowered

but hitler germany is the most op path

[severe lion]

also crzy holy roman buffs

[tired jackal]

for multiplayer games

[severe lion]

almost ragebaited me

hes shit for wc

all land gets crazy res

[tired jackal]

i said multi

[severe lion]

yes

[tired jackal]

if you watch any meta game

[severe lion]

ik

he has crazy divs

and buffs

but also debuffs

[tired jackal]

hitler germany also gets 10 spys

[severe lion]

wasnt it 8

[tired jackal]

and it not hard to invest

into

mp

and armoured cars

div

and collabs

[severe lion]

just killed lithuania

[heavy vigil]

@knotty vortex as soonj as you get the territory you should get extra units and snake around

[severe lion]

they decided to attack poles

[knotty vortex]

okay ill try that

[heavy vigil]

all the attacks are to pin the line and i split off so units get force attack (they will effectively have more org to continue longer)

[knotty vortex]

itll probably take me a few attempts

[heavy vigil]

ofc always try encirclements too

[knotty vortex]

can i see your industry rq

[tired jackal]

u don't always have to speed attack them

you can get free land

[heavy vigil]

this is what happens when you attack over river btw XD

[severe lion]

havent touched navy since 1936 btw

[heavy vigil]

you just dont win

[knotty vortex]

holy stats

okay so 1 art

then the rest on guns

can i see the militia template

[tired jackal]

convert those navies

base german navy if you put like 20-30 dockyards into it

can beat anything

[severe lion]

into?

[tired jackal]

for japan i convert all my ships

into upgraded models

[tired jackal]

or refit*

i build two super heavys

then two ac

then destroyer roach

[severe lion]

but i wanna naval bomb britain

[tired jackal]

with light cruiser

[tired jackal]

bro you gotta try bombers after this dlc

there so overpowered 😭

i got 15 bombing a day before

with 1936 bombers

60% of german induestry was bombed

[severe lion]

f africa

[knotty vortex]

veyr nice

[tired jackal]

whenever i play an africa game as italy or germany

i just throw light tanks

with fuel tanks

and 16 width inf

[knotty vortex]

okay im gonna try agaiin

[heavy vigil]

on top of keeping first factory on bad gun i shouldve played for killing more in the north

you just retreat and start the "mobile" fight

again

[knotty vortex]

what should you have done for industry?

[heavy vigil]

because pushing east is like significantly more difficult

[heavy vigil]

keep first factory on bad gun

and every new one on newer

its not a massive difference but a few hundred rifles

[knotty vortex]

okay cool

time to retry

[tired jackal]

time to play the fire rises

and play atomwaffen

❤️

[heavy vigil]

now you have 16 of these and can go down the path to the 4 mils

you should get it just before japan

ninxia is also possible to annex but they dont really have eco

its just nice to do

[knotty vortex]

who do i attack before japan? if anybody

okay

and how do i get the rest of china

like whats the gameplan after

[fathom shard]

😋

[clever shuttle]

im done with the allies not forming nato and inviting every single unrealistic country in the world, im done

[little yarrow]

Is this a good template for infantry?

[knotty vortex]

nice

okya

i can probably try this now

[heavy vigil]

just those 2

you dont have any other time

[knotty vortex]

okay

thank you

[latent estuary]

like my European Union that i did using the secret focus path (and yes, i did release every nation outside of europe)

[knotty vortex]

sorry for being

dumb lmao

[heavy vigil]

already more mils than main china XD

its okay

[knotty vortex]

oh awesome

okay i can try this

might not go well

but

i can try

[heavy vigil]

its just practice

youre practicing micro

on a small front

so its just knowing terrain and stuff

and when theyre out of supply in the desert they move slower (your enemies but also you)

[knotty vortex]

okay its probably good practice

[heavy vigil]

and you can see even tho i only encircled like 3 guys you can still snake around

you just have to kill enough/pin all units

and push above the river in the north

the river is virtually unpushable

[knotty vortex]

mums just called me for dinner

time to prepare warplans at the dinner table LOL

[unkempt zodiac]

HELL YEAHHHHHH

[runic spoke]

is there an exploit that lets you get same amount of planning for immobiel as everything else

[heavy vigil]

no

[runic spoke]

god why did they have to fix field marshal exploit

[opal nymph]

Because it was an exploit

But hey, new cohesion feature

[unkempt zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[runic spoke]

alright but why did they have to replace it with this

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/isopod-dance-silly-silly-guy-bounce-gif-9098501747213389321

[opal nymph]

They could have simply removed it and not put anything else in return

[runic spoke]

-50% planning speed for microing ur own units is dogshit

[opal nymph]

Also staff office plan exists

[runic spoke]

its still really slow tho

i dont see why it exists

[maiden bolt]

🇺🇸 🤝 🇷🇺

[unkempt zodiac]

did they nerf subs btw?

[opal nymph]

This is where we clearly use planning speed bonuses instead of max planning

[unkempt zodiac]

cus wtf

i lost EVERYTHING

[runic spoke]

lmao i guess so

[opal nymph]

Just attack now, why wait

[runic spoke]

yea i think sub visibility is broken rn

from what i've heard at least

[opal nymph]

I know the beta patch is changing things

[runic spoke]

ive seen people lose like 90 subs in 1 engagement

[opal nymph]

Trying to help out subs a bit

[unkempt zodiac]

yeah cus subs dont dissapear like that 😭

[opal nymph]

Or is it the beta patch where subs are getting rolled

[runic spoke]

i wish instead of nerfing subs which were already easy to deal with they nerfed cas

might be number 1 cas hater rn

pdx priorities...

[daring geyser]

in fact, they buffed cas in ncns lol

massively

deals like 3x more damage now

[runic spoke]

yea which is absolutely horrendous

cas was already crazy before ncns

why the hell was it buffed

[daring geyser]

but i actually approve of it cuz cas was hella important irl, but it's awful for game balance because most nations even a lot of majors already don't have the IC to build an airforce and tanks per se at the same time

in multiplayer

not a sufficiently large one

[fathom shard]

terrible

[clever shuttle]

@daring geyser look at my progress, i have taken finland and pushed back india, they have lik 55 million casualties now

[fathom shard]

youre a maniac bro

[runic spoke]

yea i do know air was kinda broken irl lol

but it desperately needs balance

[clever shuttle]

people dont see the beuaty in late game, so much cooler things that you dont ususally see happens. like one time when i fhought usa they liker turned to three civil wars

[runic spoke]

even if you have no air there should be SOMETHING you can do

u could legit get 18w battleplanned by cas and lose

might have to start doing AA cheese

[sleek dew]

why my hoi4 is not opening

[daring geyser]

there's roaching and outmicroing but the latter is really hard to do

but in general if you play mp and got red air you lost yeah

[runic spoke]

its just so disheartening to see my tanks get pushed out by inf battleplans with green air

i take 1 tile and run out of org

and this is just against AI

i cant imagine MP

good lord

[daring geyser]

if you want to beat them you fight fire with fire

sfs + air is the most ic efficient way to play the game

[runic spoke]

heavily agreed

special forces never stop winning

[severe lion]

WHAT

[winged field]

live laugh naval invasion

[severe lion]

is this clutchable

be honest

[winged field]

just close the pocket at konigsberg

to encircle them

[severe lion]

i cant

[winged field]

wdym?

[severe lion]

they are too strong

500 divs

[winged field]

do you have tanks?

micro them to close it

[severe lion]

not many

I BARELY DID

[tired jackal]

dawg it 1975

[severe lion]

24 divs saved me

[tired jackal]

and france and uk still have colonies?

[terse skiff]

If they have 500 divs in konigsberg then close it immediately cuz they have no supply there

[clever shuttle]

wdym do they lose them normally?

[tired jackal]

yes

france and uk usually

[clever shuttle]

idk never happened to me

[tired jackal]

decolonize

[maiden bolt]

USA did a d-day by themself

[severe lion]

gng what

[tired jackal]

in my games india declares independence

[clever shuttle]

they like get civil wars sometimes i know but not this time

[severe lion]

they have total 500

[clever shuttle]

do u have all dlcs?

[tired jackal]

usa is the best ai

[tired jackal]

yes

[fathom shard]

peak japan

[terse skiff]

Then still close it

[severe lion]

i did

[clever shuttle]

manchurkou better

[tired jackal]

japan is so fun to play

[daring geyser]

easily

[tired jackal]

untill u stop invading the actual countries and have to island hop

[severe lion]

asia WHAT

[fathom shard]

❌

[tired jackal]

my favorite

[scenic spade]

in hoi4 mods where are the province tiles stored

[tired jackal]

dawg i can't even make a navy in hoi4 and ur asking abt mods

ask chatgpt or google dude

[acoustic wasp]

FINALLY INVADED THE UK AND ANNEXED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER 12 GAMES

[scenic spade]

not even they know

[tired jackal]

they'll give you a much better answer

[scenic spade]

thats the thing

[acoustic wasp]

I can die peacefully now

time to play USSR and have 300 infantry armies

[scenic spade]

neither can i

[acoustic wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-karl-marx-communism-soviet-union-marxism-gif-12636906807547980496

[barren coyote]

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DO NOT FALL FOR THIS SCAM.
I just got hit with it. Stay safe and don’t give them anything.

[tired jackal]

literally just took a screenshot of what u said

[scenic spade]

i love scams

[tired jackal]

and gave it to ai

and they did it

[scenic spade]

i use gemini

[tired jackal]

that ur fault for using google ai

😭

[scenic spade]

and thats wrong btw

[tired jackal]

look up a youtube video then

on how to mod a map

[scenic spade]

bro im not making a mod

i need to find the province names

for the numbers

i need to use commands

[tired jackal]

oh

that just tdebug

and you hover over them

:/

[scenic spade]

whats tdebug

[severe lion]

is it normal for revolutions to have revolutions

[scenic spade]

how to get tdebug

[tired jackal]

you literally type tdebug

and hover over a provence

and it tells you it

btw u were wording it wrong

[scenic spade]

there are 3 whats it

[vocal bolt]

Imo stationary aa needs buff

[severe lion]

i killed 60% late ss

got it encircled with reinforce meme

[daring geyser]

totally

[tired jackal]

inf only germany is so tuff

[severe lion]

wow

[daring geyser]

its currently ass

[severe lion]

icl

[vocal bolt]

make it an actualy viable alternative to towed aa so nations with bad industry can stand

[tired jackal]

i say as i watch 20 bombers a day get lit up at london

😭

[vocal bolt]

not enough

when the ai has 10 thousand

[tired jackal]

usually the bombers i make

are 89 ic

so yes

that is alot

😭

[vocal bolt]

also the issue isnt really strat bombers

its the cas

[daring geyser]

which yee yee ass bombers are you making

that get shotdown 20 a day by static aa

[tired jackal]

radar and maxed out anti air

throughout all of england

🥀

they get touched

[daring geyser]

eh ai doesnt really max out radar or AA on vanilla

[tired jackal]

multi

[daring geyser]

they dont even build it at all

[daring geyser]

yeah ok

[tired jackal]

i had a friend playing uk

[daring geyser]

but youre not getting green air over the uk on multiplayer hist anyways

[tired jackal]

in a modded map

[tired jackal]

i mean you could have italy and germany heavily invest into air day one

[woeful knoll]

Surviving as ethiopia is now impossible in the latest patch

[tired jackal]

mefo bill germany can squeeze out 5.3k fighters

probably more

[daring geyser]

when youre bombing germany per se they cant put static AA everywhere without taking a huge hit

[tired jackal]

before war

[daring geyser]

thats a known strategy in comp/semicomp

called airgamble

[tired jackal]

that why bombers are banned

[daring geyser]

but you dont build f1s

obviously

[tired jackal]

f2

[daring geyser]

and usually when they do that sovs smash cuz outmicro

[tired jackal]

sovs out micro 😭

when does that ever happen it usually just roach build

it also depends on mods

because base germany is overpowered

[daring geyser]

if they airgamble they will have no tanks my man

if sovs roach builds against airgamble germany they are braindead

better kick that guy off the game

[tired jackal]

most sov mains are tho

🥀

[sleek dew]

my hoi4 is not opening 🙁

[heavy vigil]

f0 spam

[daring geyser]

booting up hoi4 mp for the GREAT WAR EXPERIENCE CHALLENGE

[runic spoke]

airgamble sov trust

[daring geyser]

guns0 interwar heavy td interwar airframe

alta

[tardy pivot]

I summon french people

[severe lion]

the united states joined american commonwealth

wow

im going to shove a microwave up britains ass

[tardy pivot]

Italian units?

[severe lion]

im never forgiving regno del sud

[heavy vigil]

then you cant defend

[severe lion]

wouldve been european union

[daring geyser]

nbopdoy CARES aboutt your opinnion:

[heavy vigil]

no like not as opinion

ive played with the techs before

[daring geyser]

nbopdoy CARES aboutt your facct:

[heavy vigil]

your offense is stronger than def

[severe lion]

sonion

[knotty vortex]

@heavy vigil heres what ive done

im still struggling a bit

so difficult to get through some areas

[severe lion]

last time i played i fried china

[heavy vigil]

its late

[knotty vortex]

i know

[heavy vigil]

just srestart and you really need to encircle in the north

[knotty vortex]

i justified as soon as i could and started the war asap

[heavy vigil]

and snake in the south tiles

[late valley]

How do u even get in a deficit so bad

[heavy vigil]

make sure they dont move into the gap when it forms

[knotty vortex]

its really really difficult

[heavy vigil]

it takes practice yes

[knotty vortex]

units always like reinforce tiles and i just cant breakthrough at all

[heavy vigil]

just do like

attacks everywhere

so they cant move into the south gap

it doesnt matter if the attacks arent winning other than when its not over river

you want to take the north because no river

[knotty vortex]

its so slow though

[heavy vigil]

and you want to move across in the south because the ai never deploys units

[knotty vortex]

like my units just dont win

[heavy vigil]

you need to have units in training

after you get the soviet guns

like 5-7

you also need planning bonus, force attack, doctrine

the highest attack level general and FM

you need to stack battle modifiers as much as possible

[knotty vortex]

yeah i did this

[heavy vigil]

as you need to with anyone really

[severe lion]

what now

[knotty vortex]

i got the doctrine

[heavy vigil]

and you deploy them when you get shaanxi shaanbei idk the name

the south

[severe lion]

use desperate defense

more lore accurate manpower

[maiden bolt]

The Fall Of Nazi Germany

[knotty vortex]

from the northeastern army?

[severe lion]

its called endsieg

[severe lion]

?

[heavy vigil]

yes

[knotty vortex]

okay

[heavy vigil]

so you dont have to spend time yk moving units around

they can be essentially teleported there

[knotty vortex]

gonna try this

[opal nymph]

Interesting Kaiserreich moment

[steel mica]

@stone sinew @median juniper we need help in looking for mp 1

[knotty vortex]

what do i do here

i just get caught like this

they have a ton of units

[severe lion]

how do i clutch

[severe lion]

attack the west the supply carries

try to reach any railways

they will experiate

[heavy vigil]

attack elft too

left*

to encircle

[knotty vortex]

okay ill try

[heavy vigil]

move a unit

[severe lion]

left=west

[heavy vigil]

you dont need 2 on a river tile

[knotty vortex]

good???

[knotty vortex]

they automatically move back

[heavy vigil]

then turn it off

in the cohesion under the general

[knotty vortex]

okay cool thanks

didnt know that existed

[viscid mason]

yo casey wanna play hoi4 tomorrow?

[knotty vortex]

too late @heavy vigil?

ill take that as a no

@heavy vigil

too late?

[lusty river]

bro

[cursive oxide]

Wtf happened

[lusty river]

romania called italy to war and i guess paratroopers capitulate france too fast so everything went to italy

[forest osprey]

am i cooked if i play as northern ireland

[lusty river]

yes very

[heavy vigil]

its too late once japan has invaded

you do get less mil output tho

[winged field]

I believe in you ✨

[forest osprey]

i have 1 military factory

no fuel

[winged field]

thats all u need

[forest osprey]

no hope as well tbh

[knotty vortex]

yeah im getting cooked

[lusty river]

did i make france even worse?

[knotty vortex]

im gonna try playing france i think

how to invade UK lol

i wanna make the french empire

[winged field]

the best france is no france

[alpine patio]

Everyone join East Showdown

[knotty vortex]

what units are the best for naval invasion if you dont have marines

[winged field]

something with bigger breakthtrough works

[knotty vortex]

i wanna get an early naval invasion on the UK

[winged field]

amphibious tanks are pretty bad so you might as well nav invade with your spg template

[knotty vortex]

i can sneak troops in by getting channel dominance before the war starts

but as soon as it starts

the royal navy turn up and things go bad

i cant get more armies in there

and we end up getting pushed out of the uk mainland

[winged field]

what do you use for your navy?

you can build up a decent one even early on

[knotty vortex]

honestly the starting french navy

i let the production lines run

im aiming to invade by 37/38

[winged field]

yeah.. no, make your own designs asap, you can get a lot of navy experience by training your current whole navy

[knotty vortex]

whats the navy cheese right now

can i just create some like broken designs lol

[winged field]

torpedo dd's

[knotty vortex]

alright

for now

should i just combine my entire navy

and train it all?

[knotty vortex]

you got the design anywhere?

[winged field]

train it all but have subs seperate

[knotty vortex]

alright

arent subs cooked rn

[winged field]

just add max torpedos on it and fill out rest as normally

[winged field]

they are meh

[lusty river]

this game never fails to amuse me

[winged field]

bad even

[lusty river]

whole army group lost + whole fleet lost

why? because they didnt want to move to reinforce the landing

[winged field]

you dont really want them in your patroling task force

[knotty vortex]

whats the rest?

and what torpedo tech do i need

[winged field]

armor, aa, fire control, just the basic fill outs

[winged field]

next to current torpedo research

[knotty vortex]

alright

and just train like this?

[winged field]

yeah, the torpedo dd design needs like 45 navy xp

or something like that

[tender surge]

how do i get better at hoi4

[winged field]

then you spam those

[knotty vortex]

alright

ill do that

[winged field]

I mean having some decent capital ships would be also nice but if you want to invade that early you wont have time to make them

cuz the ai designs are pretty meh

[knotty vortex]

yeah they suck

[tender surge]

is there a good way to get good at hoi4

[knotty vortex]

hows this @winged field

[winged field]

looks good

[knotty vortex]

time to spam

[winged field]

you can cancel the rest of production pretty much

and focus on these

still try to train them to lvl 3 if possible

[crude temple]

chat im gonna play half life but with a twist

[winged field]

and make sure you have air superiority

[knotty vortex]

GOD DAMN IT I DELETED MY ENTIRE PRODUCTION LINES

mildy infuriating

[winged field]

lol

happens

[heavy vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[ivory hull]

restart cro

[timber laurel]

cavalry good or no?

[patent thistle]

if you want to release your inner genghis khan? yes
for normal games? only for garrison

[elfin gazelle]

which country should i play in which mod (out of kaiserreich tno tfr and empire)

[ivory hull]

its doable if you get buffs for it

like a bermontian poland

[unkempt zodiac]

do these count as space marines

[ivory hull]

yes

[winged field]

cavarly spacemarines are viable like if you are playing as Poland and you want to larp. They will shred the Soviets to piece

[ivory hull]

too many tanks tho

id say

[winged field]

since their piercing is terrible

[patent thistle]

understatement of the century

[unkempt zodiac]

i need hard attack

[ivory hull]

your playing mp?

[patent thistle]

then build hard attack focused tanks

[unkempt zodiac]

Yes but im just testing divisions

templates*

[ivory hull]

use less tanks

and space marines are banned in most mp games

[maiden bolt]

Never mess with the US navy

[unkempt zodiac]

yes ik thats why i asked if those are spacemarines

[ivory hull]

space marines are infantry divisions that have armor in them

[elfin gazelle]

which country should i play in which mod (out of kaiserreich tno tfr and empire)

[sly venture]

attempt 2 at making byznatium

[timber laurel]

i use 30 width calvary as soviet in winter war and win

[ivory hull]

russia in kx

[timber laurel]

they push the finlands

only 1.5m casualties

[ivory hull]

dont attack over a river

[patent thistle]

💀

[ivory hull]

your missing equipment

[elfin gazelle]

alr

[sly venture]

doing that to pin them

[winged field]

old wourld blues - lost hills, if you mean like any mod

[unkempt zodiac]

Are making heavies destroyers worth it? i mean the hard attack difference really isnt that much but you get -40% breakthrough

in MP

[timber laurel]

what bro