hoi4-general

[wild sedge]

And nothing else

[rough tendon]

Light cruisers are do way more for a lil more production

[wild sedge]

True

But I like using lights for the attacking along with heavies

And leave my destroyers as screens

I don’t really run carriers

Battleships not really

Just heavies and lights screened by like 100 dirt cheap destroyers

[rough tendon]

And most nations start with enough destroyers, but destroyers are good for like Germany and other countries that start with like 20 or like 5

5 carriers is the max you need

More is just not needed

[wild sedge]

Personally I really like germany for navy idk why

Good base production

[rough tendon]

I main Japan so I have to know navy

[wild sedge]

I main Germany

And sometimes US/USSR

Italy maybe

[rough tendon]

Germany and Japan

that’s who I main

[wild sedge]

Germany best land power hands down

[rough tendon]

USA for air and navy maybe

Since the heavy fighters

[wild sedge]

Personally I run Mobile Warfare and Superior Firepower for doctrines

[rough tendon]

doesn’t gbp give more planning etc?

[wild sedge]

And then some lovely soft attack from the branches of doctrine

[wild sedge]

GBP is planning

[prisma steppe]

france 1939

[wild sedge]

Personally I hate sitting for a planning bonus so I run for more soft attack and mobility

[sudden thistle]

What mod did u use this time

[wild sedge]

So I run SFP for base

[rough tendon]

I usually just do staff office plan

[prisma steppe]

2 width for the win

[rough tendon]

then it’s done in like a day or two

[wild sedge]

I use that too

[prisma steppe]

france expanded

[sudden thistle]

Yay more bloat

[prisma steppe]

but but i have permanent 50% eco nerf

[rough tendon]

But I’m mainly speaking about mp, sp might be way different of what’s the best

[wild sedge]

I use SFP on normal days but if I feel feisty I run with MWF

[sudden thistle]

I’m using the vanilla focus tree I’m fine

[wild sedge]

I’m mainly single player lmao

MWF and SFP are my mains

Maybe GBP

But no for Mass Assault

[rough tendon]

I’m lonely so I can only do sp

I’ve done sp so much I’m just trying to do mp

[sudden thistle]

It’s not that hard to do mp

[high vector]

this mod is okay but it could use a little more

[sudden thistle]

Or find a mp server

[rough tendon]

yeah but usually it’s either way out of my time zone or you need certain things to even play a good nation etc

[sly venture]

good sub?

[sudden thistle]

Well a new mp player won’t be playing Germany

[rough tendon]

Yeah

[prisma steppe]

my internet is a roulate machine, sometimes its peak euro internet sometimes its peak german internet

[high vector]

yea multiplayer seems like kind of a headache

[high vector]

you've got the smallest amount of visibility right

it looks good

[prisma steppe]

eco goes brrr

[high vector]

france is 2 good

they start with like the 4th best navy behind the US UK and japan

[wild sedge]

Not saying France is bad…
but disjointed government…
victors of the first world war
eish

[high vector]

yeahh once u get rid of their handicaps they're goated tho

[prisma steppe]

they update the funni mod

it gets bad

[high vector]

💀

yea really encourages you to hurry up

[prisma steppe]

this mod nerfs china so much

[dusky burrow]

yeah you can't wage wars like this

[prisma steppe]

china gets nuked

nvm jhapan got evicted in '39

[high vector]

what mod is it

[high vector]

these whackass borders 😭

shandong clique living large rn

[prisma steppe]

uhhh

what

this modpack is so shizo

[nocturne cedar]

http://youtube.com/post/UgkxnIH3VJjRkuxuDTq8ASw4ZVBovTyd7XL5?si=Cvdc5j3kwawr4Q7l

Huzzah!

[prisma steppe]

the ai is cracked, this is still 39 btw

i am soo cooked

[sudden thistle]

Could be worse

[upbeat tundra]

its time for 56 years of pain

[terse skiff]

No you're not ai doesn't know how to make good tanks and templates

[prisma steppe]

oh no

[upbeat tundra]

it starts in 1900...

[prisma steppe]

they broke the maginot its so joever

[upbeat tundra]

theres nothing we can do...

[rough tendon]

Genuinely who is buying a hoi4 phone case 😭

[upbeat tundra]

me...

[nocturne cedar]

idk

[rough tendon]

I’m crine

[upbeat tundra]

id like use it once every year

[rough tendon]

on the anniversary of hoi4

[upbeat tundra]

mousepad tho

[rough tendon]

I think the mousepads are fine

The general one seems corny

[upbeat tundra]

i want a hoi4 vinyl

for the menu the,me

[clear dagger]

it better come with katyusha

[rough tendon]

Isn’t there like lofi of that

😭

[ripe slate]

I want Heroes of Rjukan, Confederate Flags and Graveyard of Empires on it

[rough tendon]

https://youtu.be/qnMlGIxydjA?si=M2TXmJqYrTfpoxVU

this exists

[upbeat tundra]

yo

who else be maginoting their lines

[rough tendon]

Make an area not defended at all

[upbeat tundra]

thats the other border lol

[rough tendon]

Tuff

Aura even

Why does that look like the China Mongolia border

[upbeat tundra]

i was planning on grinding them down with it buuuut

yo what

[sudden thistle]

I smell bloat

[prisma steppe]

nvm the germans are so dogwater

[upbeat tundra]

yo I NEED st kirk

[prisma steppe]

such a embarassment

max buffed them + mod insane blitzkrieg

still a nothingburger

[rough tendon]

How are they attritioning in the Rhineland

Is that a mod or smth

[upbeat tundra]

i know its king micheal but i just cant prove it

[prisma steppe]

they didnt push in nigh to 3 years

hmmm

kinda late

nvm they still cant push

[upbeat tundra]

guys how do i cook fortifications

[prisma steppe]

the germans are gonna suffer today

[fathom shard]

is this peak guys

also i don't think world conquered stat counts puppets as this is a world conquest

[prisma steppe]

why i wanted a vichy game

why must the german ai be so regarded

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/michealdontleavemehere-gif-24501729

[quartz needle]

<@&846894118219022336> @frosty juniper @orchid pewter @zenith bridge are spamming soundboards in MP2

please help

[fathom shard]

i just love this game right

[sly venture]

This is a good sub right?

[fathom shard]

so soviet union

gets

romania and turkey for free

[stark elbow]

if it goes underwater yes

[fathom shard]

in 1936

[jade parcel]

guys whats the current game version so i can update the version on my mod

[sudden thistle]

Mute soundboard

[frosty juniper]

when bro

[quartz needle]

they spamming through mic

and its very aids

i have dc soundboard muted

[sudden thistle]

Mute them

[sudden thistle]

Try sheep’s mod

[sly venture]

How can I improve the sub?

[sudden thistle]

Without more mods added to it

[sly venture]

?

[sudden thistle]

It’s fine

Maybe snorkel?

[thick vector]

Will love be eternal or temporary?

[fathom shard]

love is never eternal

humans always seek greater

[dusky burrow]

why though

just walk across the border

[upbeat tundra]

for fun

[fathom shard]

we do not need all of these spoilers bro

[dusky burrow]

Imagine fighting wars when you can just walk to your neighbor's capital and say "hi~"

https://tenor.com/jiUieYpTE0W.gif

[thick vector]

Hi too

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-kevin-hart-cat-kevin-hart-gif-9815353059216625636

[foggy scaffold]

I have a feeling belgium is weirdly Op

Odd

[faint fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[foggy scaffold]

Yea looking at the focus tree.

Theres

A LOT of stuff

[faint fiber]

most countries have a big focus tree now, that doesnt make them OP

[foggy scaffold]

Though the balkans is dead 🥹

Id find it more fun doing Estonia Latvia or Lithuania than yugoslavia

[mystic nest]

uh

[foggy scaffold]

But then again

The soviets and all

[mystic nest]

belgium can hold up the germans for a little bit in mp

but thats about it

[dusky burrow]

belgium is somewhat op

but yeah

it's too small to make an impact

[viscid mason]

Hello

[dusky burrow]

hello vistula

[foggy scaffold]

I meannn you can make the eu.

[dusky burrow]

yeah

but that takes quite the time and effort

and is rng dependant

[mystic nest]

thats really not worth the effort compared to other formables

that take like infinitely less effort and are stronger

[viscid mason]

is that WW?

[foggy scaffold]

I probably should play south america again.

Nations in south america.

[mystic nest]

south america is great

brazil is goated

[foggy scaffold]

I aint touching north America until they all get better focus trees

[restive sable]

ToA is great i dont care what anyone says

[foggy scaffold]

I love that some smaller nations just have bigger focus trees than america

[vivid juniper]

Doesn’t need to be said, but Austria is again the undisputed master of the German world

I restored Austria Hungary on historical and joined the allies

[foggy scaffold]

Forgot some yugoslav lands and Polish.

[dusky burrow]

what is ww anyways?

[sudden thistle]

world peace acheived!

[sudden thistle]

wundering waves?

[vivid juniper]

I know I was not quick enough with Poland. They said no and I didn’t want them joining allies Yugoslavia I wasn’t quick enough in the same reason

[viscid mason]

wuthering waves

[viscid mason]

naw it means world war /s

[foggy scaffold]

Well if you got strong enough.

Couldn't you just take on thr allies or sum

[dusky burrow]

no it isn't

different game

i'll keep you guessing

[vivid juniper]

I didn’t rush unification as I wanted my constituents to build up their industries before I hit the focus and I didn’t want to fight the allies

As a result, 276 factories

[foggy scaffold]

Mm

Okay.

[mystic nest]

vanilla btw

no prizes for guessing what country

[vivid juniper]

I got up to well on my way to 1200 with Germany on vanilla

[mystic nest]

this is on volunteer only conscription law

[viscid mason]

kurwa, is it HSR?

[dusky burrow]

closer

[foggy scaffold]

I love playing hoi4, finishing a war, then for the ai to make the most disgusting borders ever created ❤️🥹

I should probably get player led.

[mystic nest]

player led peace conferences

but it does get tiring

havign to assign every single state yourself

obivously oyu can just assignw hole countries but thats not always the best way

[viscid mason]

is it HI3?

[foggy scaffold]

Id rather do that then have 2-3 of the same countries and be weird colours.

[thick vector]

Hi Indonesia

[viscid mason]

hello

[foggy scaffold]

Jeśli Polska jest twoją siłą, czym jesteś bez niej.

[dusky burrow]

yes

[sudden thistle]

what does that stand for

[dusky burrow]

yeah that's fair

[viscid mason]

Hearts Iron III!? nah who am i kidding it's Honkai Impact 3rd

[thick vector]

When will there be hoi5?😹

[viscid mason]

in 2036 /s

[sudden thistle]

there are multiple??

[viscid mason]

yeah there was Honkai Gauken 1 and 2. shamefully i played the first one

[sudden thistle]

i thought it was just honkai starail

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-kevin-hart-cat-kevin-hart-gif-9815353059216625636

[mystic nest]

ball unknowner

[sudden thistle]

anime games arent rlly my thing

[mystic nest]

after pdx sells the hundredth 30 dollar dlc that adds a focus tree to micronesia

fair enuf

[foggy scaffold]

So someone answer me this. When taking either Algeria or libya why does spain and Italy take the bottom halves of both Algeria and libya making weird ass borders

[sudden thistle]

im cooked gng

[thick vector]

Lol

[mystic nest]

what mod i this

[sudden thistle]

sheeps mod

[foggy scaffold]

God I hate when spain or thst stupid Italian puppet does that

[sudden thistle]

@dusky burrow what french general do i use for tanks

[thick vector]

mod mod

[mystic nest]

i love sheeps mod.. i cant cap france man

[viscid mason]

Liv, you should just play Vic3 instead of Gacha games lmao :P

[sudden thistle]

lock in

[foggy scaffold]

[mystic nest]

hard to when even brazil has their army in france

the entire BEF is in france too

ill try going through the maginot next run

idk where ill get a fort buster gen though

maybe in china

[sudden thistle]

MANSTEIN

oops caps lock

[mystic nest]

this run ill use special forces

[sudden thistle]

or grinding

[mystic nest]

does he start with fort buster?

[sudden thistle]

yes

[mystic nest]

oh thats good

ill need another still

[sudden thistle]

or the trait can be applied at game start

[mystic nest]

ah

[sudden thistle]

either way its good for u

[mystic nest]

ive lowkey given up on mediums in sheeps

[foggy scaffold]

Very boring right now

[mystic nest]

wut is

[dusky burrow]

tassigny and juin

[foggy scaffold]

Life

[dusky burrow]

i think

[mystic nest]

go do smth

[foggy scaffold]

Currently very bored right now

I cannot.

[mystic nest]

oh

[foggy scaffold]

Everybody is asleep.

[mystic nest]

rip

go to bed

[foggy scaffold]

I cant be bothered

I only sleep when im tired.

[thick vector]

Good anime mod info and doesn't change history in hoi4

[foggy scaffold]

[thick vector]

[sudden thistle]

they look fine yeah

[foggy scaffold]

Id hope my friends were awake right now.

I hope they are

[mystic nest]

how id they break through the maginot?

[foggy scaffold]

I need to spam the GC

Fheifid

[mystic nest]

did you have 18w divs on it

is it just railway guns and a dream

[viscid mason]

okay quick question doing 4 year plan is goring or Speer better once I get the event to switch Todt out?

[foggy scaffold]

nie wiem

[mystic nest]

i think speer? not sure

[sudden thistle]

rephrease that

rephrase*

[mystic nest]

how did they break through the maginot

like for the germans

[mystic nest]

i dont see a lot of spg divs

only inf

[foggy scaffold]

These discord quests are gówno

[dusky burrow]

if you get assault engineers, medium flame tanks, railway artillery, and super-heavy howitzer that's most of what you need to break through the maginot

from there you just make good offensive divisions

like heavy tanks

[sudden thistle]

if u mean breaking through me?

no

i dont understand

[daring geyser]

you ever wore drip so bad you feel uncomfortable using it even at home

[dusky burrow]

is this large inf or small inf?

[mystic nest]

yeah

[mystic nest]

yeah but i dont see any heavy tanks on that screenshot

[sudden thistle]

i dont have enough xp for any doctrines yet

[mystic nest]

or even tanks at all

[sudden thistle]

but small

[thick vector]

Who here plays using only light tanks?✌️

[woeful knoll]

Country tier list

[sudden thistle]

16w with supp arty and AA

[daring geyser]

@heavy vigil

[mystic nest]

chile above brazil and argentina is inasne

[sudden thistle]

i can do fat inf

would be funny

[dusky burrow]

is this a multiplayer game?

also what i'm referring to is having like 18-widths versus 36 widths

[daring geyser]

they use plenty of line arty as well

[woeful knoll]

Chile has one of the best focus trres in hoi4, argentina is trash

[mystic nest]

no he sent a ss of sheeps

[dusky burrow]

not the doctrine of the same name, which you probably shouldn't use

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[dusky burrow]

????

[sudden thistle]

16w inf with supp AA and supp arty

[mystic nest]

doesnt brazil just straight up outscale chile post 1940?

[uncut pollen]

whats that country next to american and turkey?

[mystic nest]

💀

[daring geyser]

issajoke

[dusky burrow]

ah i see

[mystic nest]

might even be earlier

[woeful knoll]

Tannu tava/albania

[mystic nest]

theres no way america is D tier brother

theres no way america is in the same tier as tannu tuva

[woeful knoll]

"Straight up outscale" Bro, just have some fun

Please

[thick vector]

Who here among you has been affected by the French liberation?

[woeful knoll]

Why are you even playing the game atp

[mystic nest]

oh i thought this was a meta tierlist

i was so confused

[woeful knoll]

America has a trash focus tree

[mystic nest]

yeah but im talking in terms of game impact

[woeful knoll]

Also imo when ur country is just like america with 999 factories its not fun for me

[mystic nest]

they can rush heavy fighters

[sudden thistle]

I BLINK FOR ONE MINUTE AND ITALY DIES

[uncut pollen]

Tannu... what?

[sudden thistle]

USELESS

[mystic nest]

and then just sit there the entire game pumping them out

[mystic nest]

nice to see sheeps is sticking to historical accuracy

why is italy even on your side anyway

arent you france?

[woeful knoll]

As who?

[dusky burrow]

and then just special forces and heavy cruiser spam if they need to advance anywhere

[mystic nest]

hes playing france

[mystic nest]

heavy cruisers?

[dusky burrow]

plus, as mentioned earlier, Japan should fall really easily

[woeful knoll]

Sounds about right

[mystic nest]

i thought they werent great

[dusky burrow]

shore bombardment

[mystic nest]

ah

[dusky burrow]

they're not good at fighting other ships, but they do inflict debuffs onto enemy land units

[mystic nest]

i mean ill try but currently im barely barely capitulating france

then they launch a d-day with like eighty divs

[sudden thistle]

stresa front

[mystic nest]

and i get railed

[woeful knoll]

Make a navy

[viscid mason]

anyone else wanna answer this?

[mystic nest]

havent takena lok at that

[mystic nest]

in sheeps?

[dusky burrow]

build mechanized coast guard divisions

[woeful knoll]

speer because if u have ever seen downfall you know to hire him

[mystic nest]

i dont even have the luxury for a lavy

[woeful knoll]

NVM

[mystic nest]

navy

[sudden thistle]

since im doing a mainland hold

if i cap

[woeful knoll]

i tohugh vinella

[mystic nest]

i can barely keep my land forces together

[sudden thistle]

germany is superpowered

[foggy scaffold]

The ai is so bad

[mystic nest]

bro vanilla is boring asf its just roll over everyone no matter what you do

[mystic nest]

install sheeps mod

youll stop complaiining very soon

[viscid mason]

ight thanks. And yes I have watched that movie.

[dusky burrow]

yeah you shouldn't cap tbh

[woeful knoll]

Is sheeps hard fun or just like black ice

[foggy scaffold]

What is it though

[mystic nest]

yeah thats cooked

[sudden thistle]

u overestimate my luck in this game

[mystic nest]

basically a mod that makes the ai play like sweaty mp

france release colonies

[dusky burrow]

sheep's mod AI is not strong enough to cap you

[mystic nest]

meta heavy tank destroyer divs to counter your mediums

[dusky burrow]

they use medium tank divisions btw

[mystic nest]

???? i ran into

heavy tank divs

yheavy tank destroyer divs

[sudden thistle]

france does tat

[mystic nest]

when i tried to make tanks

[sudden thistle]

that

[dusky burrow]

They're medium tank divisions with 1 heavy tank for armor meme

[mystic nest]

aw hell naw..

[sudden thistle]

my gun for my tank is ass too

[mystic nest]

last run i didnt even go tanks i went 36w

[sudden thistle]

but i need to make do with what i have

[mystic nest]

normal inf

ill try special forces this time

[dusky burrow]

I guess Sheep must have found that making acutal meta templates for Germany and the Soviet Union proved unviable for the AI's playstyle

[sudden thistle]

improved heavy cannon 🥀

[mystic nest]

its way more fun thatn black ice

[sudden thistle]

once the commies come in i got this

[mystic nest]

black ice is genuinely unplayable solo

[woeful knoll]

ok ima try it

[mystic nest]

its the least fun ive ever had playing hoi4

everything needs to be micromanaged

i think you cant play the majors on black ice without a coop

[mystic nest]

yeah thats true

[dusky burrow]

yeah, and you micromanage a lot in sheep's

[mystic nest]

idk man wht a pain

and france doesnt have an y indsutrty in the mainland

they shove it all into their colonies

so even once i cap them i still have like less factories than britain

[dusky burrow]

well if you play britain you get a number of factories that is just shy of germany's

like around 200 versus 250 for germany in 1940

This means you can really scare the Germans out

[mystic nest]

i was playing ger

[sudden thistle]

i forgot to pause my spotify for the last 2 hours

[heavy vigil]

huh

[mystic nest]

maybe i should just hop on like brazil or something and let the allies carry

[viscid mason]

hello casey

[mystic nest]

while i figure out how the ai works in the mod

[dusky burrow]

huh

[sudden thistle]

turn on "fow" btw

interesting to see

[mystic nest]

all heir industry is in the colonies since they release

they do their focuses

like before capping france i saw they had a lot of factories

but after i capped i didnt get most of it

[misty fossil]

Brazil AC 🗣️

Just go all in on air

[dusky burrow]

If you're playing without rules and with AAT you should generally not have infantry

[mystic nest]

wuzzat

[dusky burrow]

but instead special forces

[daring geyser]

you play only using light tanks and line artillery

[dusky burrow]

is this super-france or normal france?

[mystic nest]

yeah i know i was trying to use the cas spam 36w

[sudden thistle]

netherlands are GONE bro

[mystic nest]

i dont know ill check when i get back on

[dusky burrow]

super-france releases its african and indochinese countries and annexes + cores them later via focus

[viscid mason]

sheep's mod? I would play SM but I am still trying to improve on playing againsit the regular ai.

[mystic nest]

might be super france then

[dusky burrow]

you'd know very quickly if you set it to normal france or super france

[mystic nest]

how thers nothing to improve

against the regular ai

[woeful knoll]

Just snake and encircle bro

[dusky burrow]

because africa would become a patchwork of colors instead of french blue

[viscid mason]

skill issue that's why

[mystic nest]

mustve been super france then..

[mystic nest]

just battleplan

you cant screw up drawing a line

[viscid mason]

I'll see how my new germany game will go then after that I might try SM

[mystic nest]

what else does super france change?

[dusky burrow]

basically nothing else

[mystic nest]

i mean if you cant all majors conquest as germany befor elike mid 42

then dont touch sheeps it wont be very fun

[dusky burrow]

but since africa is cored you would have to conquer the entirety of metropolitan france to capitulate them

[woeful knoll]

Best nation to learn sheeps AI?

[mystic nest]

probably germany? youll be seeing the most bullshit

if you just mean to see how the ai reacts

[dusky burrow]

honestly I had the best experience as India

[woeful knoll]

I dont play germany anymore

I quit germany

[woeful knoll]

ok

[dusky burrow]

India's a very flexible position with a fair number of different builds you can do

[woeful knoll]

Elephant spam?

[mystic nest]

what focus even cores africa bruh

[dusky burrow]

French Union

[mystic nest]

i thought they had to vote?

or was tht a diffferent one

[dusky burrow]

Sheep adjusted it so that the French colonies always vote to join

[sudden thistle]

they do

[mystic nest]

bruh

[dusky burrow]

in vanilla it's a tiny chance that they do

[mystic nest]

hell

[sudden thistle]

its goated

[mystic nest]

yeah i did it in vanilla and they always said no

gawddam

[sudden thistle]

is there a french steiner

[dusky burrow]

wait where did belgium and the netherlands go

[mystic nest]

cooked

[sudden thistle]

human waved

[mystic nest]

does sheepsa i use spgs?

[sudden thistle]

into graves

[dusky burrow]

stop spamming

[mystic nest]

ligma

[dusky burrow]

we get it

[viscid mason]

At least with Sheep's mod the AI uses tanks so that might be funner.

[dusky burrow]

we're getting screwed by the german ai right now

[viscid mason]

<@&846894118219022336>

[dusky burrow]

depends on which build they go down

[sudden thistle]

im larping with german invasions

[mystic nest]

not always

[sudden thistle]

and getting encircled 🔥

i hate red air

[mystic nest]

germanys meta mp b uild was 36w inf pre cas nerf no?

[dusky burrow]

probably 36w mountaineers or forest rangers i imagine

[uncut pollen]

thank you

[woeful knoll]

Am i the only one that strugles with building a airforce

[heavy vigil]

huh

[mystic nest]

segl said regular inf

[viscid mason]

what happened to 32 width mountaineers?

[uncut pollen]

tried to raid

[mystic nest]

yeah just throw factories on the planes and forget

[heavy vigil]

artillery is meta for attacking in vic3

[woeful knoll]

wow

[daring geyser]

yeah

[dusky burrow]

useful for going through mountains and to a lesser extent marsh

most of german combat will happen outside of the major mountain belts

[viscid mason]

makes sense

[heavy vigil]

also, light tanks suck

[mystic nest]

preach

[heavy vigil]

i tried them, without appropriate modifiers tbf

and then they did no damage

[clear dagger]

PARADOX, MAKE LINE ARTILLERY USEFUL AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

[daring geyser]

obviously..

[heavy vigil]

its good just play vic3

[dusky burrow]

but does vic3 have light spg?

[heavy vigil]

they were buffed tho

[woeful knoll]

Is vic3 like eu4

[heavy vigil]

it has tanks

[mystic nest]

i might just give up and put out some 50w cas farm divs

maybe thatll save me

[heavy vigil]

its like, imagine hoi4 without the combat and completely different

[dusky burrow]

also

in the situation you are in where the axis are literally just spamming infantry

[viscid mason]

no but apparently in vic3, heavy tanks are considered artillery

[dusky burrow]

you should probably just use medium spg divisions instead of heavy tank divisions

[woeful knoll]

Can i larp as the german empire

[daring geyser]

imagine hoi4 if it was nothing like hoi4

[dusky burrow]

funneh

[heavy vigil]

sadly

[woeful knoll]

Buyign

[heavy vigil]

its kinda like that yeah

XD

[daring geyser]

see im so smart

my olden ahh only played vic2 cuz vic3 wasnt out when i got into pdx games and i refuse to play vic3

[heavy vigil]

you wont be able to run vic3

its like, really bad performance

[woeful knoll]

EU4 REFERENCE IN HOI4

EU4 REFERENCE IN HOI4

HOLY SHIT

[daring geyser]

why tho

i can run all pdx games its p chill

[heavy vigil]

it runs like, significantly worse

[daring geyser]

i mean i am above its minimum requirements

[eternal aspen]

@mystic nest yo

[mystic nest]

whaddup

[eternal aspen]

you able to play?

[mystic nest]

sure i can play for a bit

[eternal aspen]

kk

i forgot, any mods?

[heavy vigil]

maybe its fine IDK

it runs really bad tho

[mystic nest]

wait i cant play right now..

give me like thirty minutes

😭

[eternal aspen]

kk

gives me time to come down from the caffine and weed I just had a min ago

[heavy vigil]

hiii astram

[sudden thistle]

ok their attack has stopped for now

[woeful knoll]

Is this the worst startig template in hoi4

[sudden thistle]

the dutch was a needed sacrifice

[daring geyser]

WHOSE???? OH THEYRE ATTACKING OH LAWD THEY COMING

[eternal aspen]

ni howdy

[daring geyser]

OH MY GOD.... OH MU GODDD....

[sudden thistle]

their's

look outside

[daring geyser]

OH MY.GOD

[sudden thistle]

btw im ignoring italy

they arent real anyways

[dusky burrow]

ignacy moscicki could do that?

[eternal aspen]

huh?

[dusky burrow]

really? your southern flank will be exposed

[heavy vigil]

just sealion before they cap

[woeful knoll]

Why does germany get rid of mefo bills in sheeps ai mod

its on historica l bro

[sudden thistle]

AI is bad at mefo

[vernal beacon]

im zaire

its the first time i got thru it all

i had to cheat myself cairo tho cause it was expensive

[silent nest]

Does mechanized infantry buffs also apply to amtrac marines?

[vernal beacon]

even thoug i conquered it

[heavy vigil]

yes

[silent nest]

ok thanks, was trying to pick some nice doctrines for mechanised marines 🙂

[dusky burrow]

i still believe italy's a better ally than enemy

[dusky burrow]

congrats

[limpid field]

Italian divisions with tanks and horses

okay correcting myself

[sudden thistle]

I dont have the propers divs for mountains anyways

[limpid field]

any starting Italian divisions

[heavy vigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315464068244443190/1354688190274994308/mountain.gif

[safe wing]

New war thunder documents leaked

[heavy vigil]

the sky is blue

[craggy trail]

Heya Casey

[dusky burrow]

if only it was that easy

[craggy trail]

How's it going?

[sudden thistle]

holy shit

i was NOT expecting this

[heavy vigil]

imagine an iceberg being carried by the waves

[craggy trail]

An iceburger

[mystic nest]

@eternal aspen aight im ready

[dusky burrow]

did they run out of fuel or something?

[mystic nest]

ive never seen sheeps ai with that little fighters

[sudden thistle]

ok nvm

[dusky burrow]

also this guy is facing a megafaction

[mystic nest]

yeah

[sudden thistle]

2k fighter spawned out of nowhere

[mystic nest]

thats even more confusing lol

[mystic nest]

rip

[sudden thistle]

u jinxed it

[mystic nest]

lmfao

[sudden thistle]

and im not locked in enough to check the mission effiency

ignorance is bliss

[craggy trail]

Very small fighter numbers 🛩️

[sudden thistle]

i almost got pushed into french proper

[woeful knoll]

Te best flag in hoi4?

[maiden bolt]

im gonna play as israel

https://tenor.com/view/joo-jew-jewl-s4j78-gif-5651286586900019647

[daring geyser]

the best flag in hoi4 is my flag

[maiden bolt]

the best flag in hoi4 is the nazi one

[eternal aspen]

kk

[maiden bolt]

you cant deny it

even though i hate the nazis the flag is tuff af

[eternal aspen]

getting on vanilla rn

[mystic nest]

you havent seen the majestic united states of brazil flag

its just america but green and yellow

[eternal aspen]

yh

ngl I just blocked 55 bc ion wanna deal with him

[mystic nest]

lmao

[eternal aspen]

who was host again?

90283849782886416 @mystic nest

[mystic nest]

you

[eternal aspen]

my bloody knee hurts sm

[woeful knoll]

I love how this puppet type is only used in NSB countries

[mystic nest]

@eternal aspen lmfao

[eternal aspen]

it's not even used outside of russia and poland

[mystic nest]

this is my screen

[eternal aspen]

odd...

[mystic nest]

fixed

[eternal aspen]

alr

[mystic nest]

i jut had to go in doctrines a few times

[eternal aspen]

kk

[maiden bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/memorial-day-america-eagle-usa-patriot-memorial-eagle-anerica-usa-gif-6514574613088641326

[safe wing]

It’s used in Gotterdamerung as well

[woeful knoll]

Where

[safe wing]

For imperial Germany

[dusky burrow]

oof

leaking from pre-1.17 doctrine

[safe wing]

When you do the puppet decisions as imperial Germany @woeful knoll

[woeful knoll]

ohh alr

[sudden thistle]

the comeback is here

[unkempt sun]

Smh this shit division design somehow Killed 60+ italian divisions (i only used 20)

sometimes i feel that the italian ai isnt even trying

[solemn bay]

man what

[sudden thistle]

locked in

[wild sedge]

Here I thought fascist countries never had elections

[wild sedge]

They usually aren’t. It’s in their blood

[unkempt sun]

but tbh romania needs to have a better focus tree

on vannila

[misty fossil]

WHY ARE THERE PONIES

least schizo modlist be like

[heavy vigil]

rapa nui focus tree update when @devs

[faint fiber]

Because why not

[high vector]

romania and yugoslavia the most forgotten HOI4 countries

😔

the fact that Turkey got a focus tree before Yugoslavia and Romania

and turkey was barely even in ww2

https://tenor.com/view/alucore-gif-21193899

[vivid juniper]

Game finally ended result

I also cleaned up some of the borders other not so much

[high vector]

i would just annex the rhineland + geneva and puppet the rest ngl

restore frances natural borders

[sudden thistle]

nah

annex all

[blazing river]

never seen this before

[craggy trail]

Assua had enough of Italy

[high vector]

chaotic evil

[wild sedge]

Aussa always a meme

[craggy trail]

[fair horizon]

My island nation first casey

[fair horizon]

i like the blue one

[craggy trail]

It's a very nice color

Just need to naval invade Asterion and defeat both Griffonian Republic and River Republic to win

[eternal aspen]

the borders

[heavy vigil]

samoa?

[digital aurora]

Wait is it viable as the Soviets to “garrison troll” Germany by just putting no garrisons on eastern Poland once I occupy them so that once they attack me they have to go through all that max resistance territory??

[heavy vigil]

you could, you could also just click spirit of defiance

you should also fight though

[eternal aspen]

you could, but there's no real reason to

becuase if you plan to take it back, you don't want it to be horrid for you

[heavy vigil]

ideally at the borders where they attrition

[eternal aspen]

yh

[heavy vigil]

there is really

soviets are very weak

[eternal aspen]

and when you need to fall back, scorched earth

[heavy vigil]

nah

not worth the pp

[digital aurora]

I mean if I made a defensive line at the end of my cores I could just put them in the meat grinder for like 2 years

[heavy vigil]

2 years is highly doubtful

but at least a bit

[eternal aspen]

it's useful if you have a quick paranoia

[fair horizon]

Basically yeah

[woeful knoll]

Ever heard of the stalin line

[digital aurora]

i mean 2 years after that i should be in a decent place to counter attack due to the spirits i can complete

[digital aurora]

yeah thats basically what im going for

[woeful knoll]

So how do i make acompetent germany in vanilla hoi4

because currently, they are useless

[heavy vigil]

it sucks

[upbeat tundra]

THEY JST KEEP THROWING THEMSELVES AT MY L7 FORTS

[fair horizon]

What mod is this?

[upbeat tundra]

centaura

ww1+ww2

start in 1900

[fair horizon]

Intersante

[high vector]

this isnt based on equestria at war is it

[upbeat tundra]

robloc game centaura

[craggy trail]

Nope. That another mod. EaW is a lot more centralized with three continent

[upbeat tundra]

"ONE MORE ATTACK"

[woeful knoll]

The ai literally spawns divisons out of thin air

[high vector]

that's wild

[upbeat tundra]

holy

[clear dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/cetus-centaura-cetan-this-post-was-fact-checked-fact-check-gif-5734657029909644976

[upbeat tundra]

its uhh

uhhhh

theyve lost

quite a bit of ppl

[light goblet]

they should make the rally the wehrmacht path harder:mono

[upbeat tundra]

if i do say myself

[light goblet]

🧐

[fair horizon]

Oh you can get both leaders as field marshals? definitely playing that

I love when i get to use my leader as a general

[mystic nest]

centaura mod for hoi4??/

[sudden thistle]

its all france

[sudden thistle]

peak

i love Dead Ahead

[upbeat tundra]

centaura

[sudden thistle]

centarua is the cheap sequel to Dead Ahead

[upbeat tundra]

this has majorly messed with the timeline

[upbeat tundra]

prequel

nahhh

[distant knoll]

theyre finally updating perfect world

so excited for the next update

[sudden thistle]

uhuh uhuh

[wooden crag]

Can anyone help me

I’m communist Canada and the Soviet Union is currently loosing by a lot

I’m in the comitern and the Allies wont do anything about it

Should I try to deploy my divisions to the front or what

😭

[subtle wharf]

How should I barborossa?

Tank and motorized and encircle?

[wild sedge]

Absolutely

Use infantry to pin

Tanks across plains

Mech across hills and plains

AND GET TO THE DAMN SUPPLY HUBS

[subtle wharf]

Well here we go

[wild sedge]

Barbossa fails because of supply

So just get to supply hubs

And then encircle

[craggy trail]

@fair horizon We'll take back Equestria tomorrow. There's just a lot of micro that your brain can do in a day 🥭

[craggy trail]

Yes. You get them both as Level 9 Field Marshals

And the Developer Cat

[wary sparrow]

id follow this bloke

[fair horizon]

Jack churchill sucks

Why do i have to be democratic to use him

[dusky burrow]

10% HP is surprisingly good

[warm cipher]

hey i havce a question

[viscid mason]

Go on

[warm cipher]

im playing as ussr with no step back dlc and starting the civil war

im winning the war but before i win the game suddenly ends

and i can either quit or observe

ive done it twice now and i have not been capulated or anything like im winning the war

[warm cipher]

but it jsut forces me to observe or quit

[viscid mason]

This may be a bug problem to report to the paradox forums. Record a video of this.

[viscid mason]

What mod is this? I mainly play in vanilla

[faint fiber]

Iron curtain, with some stuff I added

[warm cipher]

there shouldnt be a time limit to winning right

[viscid mason]

I dont think so. But I have never played Russian civil war before, sorry.

[viscid mason]

Tho if you want to test this out you may want to go on the defensive and hold out as long as you can to see if you die at some point?

[viscid mason]

Could it be because germany or another nation is invading you?

[warm cipher]

ty tho

no ones invading me haha

i think i found the problem

[viscid mason]

What year do you die

[warm cipher]

38

[viscid mason]

Oof

[warm cipher]

the ar started 38 too

[subtle wharf]

If anyone could give me tips for this barborossa plan I would appreciate

In those battleplans I have tanks and motorized

Not really sure what to do in the north since theres a river

[mystic gale]

so i did this 😭

[lilac ginkgo]

Honestly you could easily battleplan it if you ve got enough equipment and manpower

[subtle wharf]

I’ve got 13 tank divs and like 20 motorized

[lilac ginkgo]

What about infantry

[subtle wharf]

A lot

[lilac ginkgo]

How much is alot

[subtle wharf]

Probably 70 divs

[lilac ginkgo]

So then you could probably battleplan and win

Personally I use 120 infantry divs and I can easily battleplan them and wkn

[subtle wharf]

Yeah I have that battle plan above to use the tanks and motorized to encircle at those two choke points

[lilac ginkgo]

With no tanks or motorized

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah that also works

It you wanna micromanage u can

If

[subtle wharf]

When you say battle plan you are saying just draw a line towards Moscow basically

Offensive line^

[lilac ginkgo]

Thats what I do if I dont care about equipment or manpower

And it works with my divisions

[subtle wharf]

I gotcha

Yeah when I start to add more divs the supply sitch goes to shit

[lilac ginkgo]

Yeah so maybe don't

[subtle wharf]

I’m just gonna save the game here and try this plan and see how it goes

I’m not too sure what to do up north cause of the river

[lilac ginkgo]

You can use your tanks and motorized to punch through their lines and encircle them

[subtle wharf]

I have like 15 motorized divs in the region that I don’t have any plans for

Yeah that’s what I have shown in the screenshot

[lilac ginkgo]

By the time you re at the river you should have encircled enough for them to be unable to hold anything

[subtle wharf]

So should I just focus on the main push into Ukraine and towards Moscow

[lilac ginkgo]

As I said personally I dont even look at the front I just let it go and in like a year they capitulate

[lilac ginkgo]

Probably it also depends on your build

but thats what I do

[subtle wharf]

I think my templates are pretty solid

[lilac ginkgo]

As long as you reach the AA line they should capitulate

[subtle wharf]

I beat France in 5 days lol

[lilac ginkgo]

What does your infantry div look like

[subtle wharf]

Standby I’ll show

[eternal aspen]

Y'all im bored anyone got disaster saves i can do?

[lilac ginkgo]

I got one but u ain't winning

Ive got one tile in Budapest as Hungary and im at war with everyone except for south America

[eternal aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/misato-nah-id-win-nah-id-win-gif-10583187355877240393

[eternal aspen]

what's your doctrine?

like, let's see it

i feel like i could improve that depending on what you have

[eternal aspen]

screw it, i'd try it

[remote quarry]

you have no division

deploy divisions

[subtle wharf]

Lowkey forgot about doctrines

[eternal aspen]

so, replace your pz div (light tank icon) and swap to your medium ones

for armour go either spearhead or infantry support

[pure needle]

مافي عرب

[eternal aspen]

idk what's good for artillery

[lilac ginkgo]

I guess bro

U got this

[eternal aspen]

infantry doctrine you could get away with using mobile infantry and swapping to motorized

by 1940 light tanks have one good purpose, and that's for paratroopers for hardness to reduce the chance they'll get murked

[subtle wharf]

Ive got 7 light divs and 5 meds

[eternal aspen]

@lilac ginkgo send me the save, if i get a single virus to the gulag you go

[eternal aspen]

make that 12 medium, use them to pust minsk ASAP then cut the baltic off

if you can, use mechanized too as they're better than motorized

though more expensive

[lilac ginkgo]

I ain't at home but ill send it as soon as i get there

BTW its kaiserredux

[eternal aspen]

oh.. alr i can do that

never played the mod but it's basically vanilla but sexy or smth idk

[lilac ginkgo]

Im at war with the Russian faction(the usa is in it)
The internationale(they have all of europe)

[lilac ginkgo]

Germany won ww1

[eternal aspen]

i played KR once with my ex and i HATED every moment of it

[eternal aspen]

ik that much, it's very probable too if zimmermann didn't get discovered

[lilac ginkgo]

aight well I gtg but ill be back in an hour or so

[eternal aspen]

kk

[lilac ginkgo]

cya

[eternal aspen]

@subtle wharf lets see that medium tank div

better guage on how much you can do within Unterwehmen Barbarossa buffs

[eternal aspen]

not enough org, remove the motorized artillery and replace a tank regiment with motorized

[subtle wharf]

got it

[eternal aspen]

they'll fold like soggy paper otherwise

and add maintenance support, assault ones if you have that unlocked (though not vital to the war effort)

the whole reason barb works is you abuse the maluses the USSR has until war with a major

which unless alt-hist, should be you

so you can delay the war as much as you need as long as japan doesn't attack them

[subtle wharf]

So remove one of the tank columns and replace with motorized?

[eternal aspen]

yea

[subtle wharf]

I removed the arty

[eternal aspen]

the AA and arty you could replace with SPAA and SPG (tank chasis aa and arty) if you have NSB

because you can make some really OP shit

[subtle wharf]

Just have the base game

[eternal aspen]

k

those should work, though if you can get spearhead tank doctrine then you'd get even more org and breakthrough, making your tanks even more dangerous against the butter of the eastern front

[crude grotto]

We need an ado mod for Japan and have real ado world domination

https://tenor.com/view/ado-ado-shield-skeleton-skeleton-shield-meme-gif-12351479581653226643

[eternal aspen]

ngl, Germany is like, the only country that has WC content

and that's bc of the RK's

smth like 20 rk's iirc

america's have 3 or 4, russia has 4, europe has 7 or so, africa has 2 or 3, arabia is one, asia has 3

[misty fossil]

You know, its kinda weird how we talk about encirclements in hoi4 as an achievement, since its literally a nightmare irl

idk just a shower thought

[rugged niche]

Guys what ya think about touching grass?

[crude grotto]

Everything you do in hoi4 would be a nightmare irl

[eternal aspen]

can't

imagine the somme and napoleons march on moscau, that's my property rn

[rugged niche]

🙏 yeah and Napoleon playing 24 hours of trial Moscow city

Literally blud had occupied the Moscow but.... For a day or sum

[eternal aspen]

legit, it's somehow muddy, and cold enough to give a man frostbite without any moisture on their skin

[misty fossil]

yeah exactly, we’re talking about war crimes as if its something to strive for

idk

[crude grotto]

I suppose

[eternal aspen]

he had it for a few days, then when he realized nobody was there, burnt it down and left thinking he could retreat and try again kater, bro got encircled too

[rugged niche]

Pffff a good man and all but a winter frost in Moscow was crushing

[rugged niche]

Noobie

[crude grotto]

I mean as a Canadian it my job to bug test for irl war so

[eternal aspen]

real

[crude grotto]

Im suited for this job

[eternal aspen]

our people are designed to find new ways to make warfare illegal

[misty fossil]

Hm

[rugged niche]

Idk guys we are at 30% tension irl I think

[eternal aspen]

we'll prolly find a way to make aircraft a war crime atp

[eternal aspen]

higher

[rugged niche]

How much then

[crude grotto]

The canned food then Grenades strat was probably the best thing we came up with

[eternal aspen]

we're at the point where UK will guarentee a nation for you looking at it

[eternal aspen]

creeping barrage....

[crude grotto]

Perchance

[rugged niche]

Yeah guarantee Lithuania (thars where I live)

[eternal aspen]

that was some bloody good work with that

[crude grotto]

Oh wait Im forgetting about Hawaiian pizza

[eternal aspen]

as a canadian, if yankees touch down in lithuania, i'll personally 1812 them or smth idk

[crude grotto]

Worst war crime we’ve committed

[rugged niche]

Yeyeyeyeyyy

[eternal aspen]

hawaiian pizza isn't horrible

but as it is, it's shyte

[crude grotto]

I just don’t like pineapple in general

[rugged niche]

I love it

Tasty tasty

[eternal aspen]

replace tomato sauce with a sweet bbq to compliment the acidic pineapple, and you've got smth actually tolerable

tbf that's the only time i'd change the sauce on za

[rugged niche]

Which one is better ? 😭

[eternal aspen]

unless it's like, got fried chicken, then i gotta put garlic ranch on ts

[eternal aspen]

2

[rugged niche]

Okey

[plucky peak]

i'm playing sheeps mod and i don't understand why i'm not getting air superiority

[eternal aspen]

are.. you joking?