hoi4-general

[misty fossil]

what do you mean level

[icy egret]

The April fools update with Manehattan and Equestrian Diarchy a few hours ago

[misty fossil]

oh

ohh

[icy egret]

Also the Griffonian Republic less than a week ago

[misty fossil]

i got banned from the eaw discord for politics

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[icy egret]

lol same

But I got unbanned eventually

[misty fossil]

no i genuinely dont get it

tf you mean level

[misty fossil]

Im still banned

guy who banned me doesnt want to unban me

[icy egret]

Is that a maintenance company?

[thick vector]

Artillery has levels 1, 2, and 3. Up to what level is artillery sufficient?

[sudden thistle]

Tf does level mean

[icy egret]

I am also confused @thick vector what do you mean by level

[scenic spade]

YES

it is a maintanance company

[young dawn]

its fun for roleplay, never though childhood shows can be played and in this way, but when i discovered it, oh boy it was so fun

[icy egret]

For an infantry division I don’t get why

[sudden thistle]

Their year?

[scenic spade]

steal their shit

[misty fossil]

oh you dont say arty levels 1-3 you just say arty 1-3. same as guns 1-3

[scenic spade]

armed robbery

[misty fossil]

arty 1, arty 2, arty 3

[thick vector]

Yes son

[icy egret]

I guess if your like Romanian it wouldn’t hurt

[misty fossil]

i dont play mp, and mp is vastly different to sp

usually i research arty as normal

[icy egret]

By the time you get to late game, artillery is kind of Larp and your better putting more time and effort into tanks or SPG

Mid and early game arty is like okay I guess add an arty support company to infantry but I wouldn’t worry about it.

[snow rain]

even by early game line arty is only for larp

[shrewd inlet]

^ this

[snow rain]

the only exceptions where it's alright being china war and spainish civil war

[fallow summit]

better ships??!! in this economy!

[regal onyx]

you can obliterate everybody else without touching the base infantry template the majors get btw

it's extremely solid

[shrewd inlet]

arti should only really be used in support companies with inf

[regal onyx]

9 inf support art support eng

[shrewd inlet]

legit all i use because i'm lazy

[regal onyx]

you don't even need tanks with this

[icy egret]

strategy shouldn’t even be discussed with majors, easy mode countries.

[shrewd inlet]

works fine (mp game btw)

[regal onyx]

I have genuinely capped France, UK and the USSR with this template and zero tanks or planes

[regal onyx]

air support is overrated btw

[shrewd inlet]

it's not

[icy egret]

Like majors are an exception to any balance discussion.

[shrewd inlet]

Cas damage is literally busted

[regal onyx]

you can just walk through CAS and have your guys adapt to it like Mahoraga

[scenic spade]

paid off got 2k guns in a few week

[regal onyx]

you'll lose like what

2 men instead of 1

to every bomb

[shrewd inlet]

cas is just good in general

[regal onyx]

you underestimate the power of a purely land based power

give me 2 armies full of 9 inf support art support eng divisions and I will conquer the earth

[shrewd inlet]

I mean unless you're doing some mass mob larp on the soviets then air is pretty nice to have

[regal onyx]

I can genuinely never get enough planes so I just ignore it

[icy egret]

Air is overrated because your going to loose most air anyways to your opponents with a bigger air force and economy and it’s just a numbers game so just use aa in your divisions.

[regal onyx]

even if I do, the casualties are 300 of mine for 1 of theirs

I literally copy the enemys plane designs yet I keep losing

even if I have more planes then them PLUS AA

[shrewd inlet]

err not entirely. some countries can easily outtrade other nations with significantly larger econs

ofc if you're playing like Afghanistan then maybe not use air

[icy egret]

Air takes a billion years to research especially with two or three research slots, better to use that limited capacity and like handful of factories to make tanks or motorized rocket arty.

[regal onyx]

I have not touched planes ONCE in my last 5 Germany runs

and I have been doing better off cause I can get more mils on guns

[icy egret]

Well picking Germany is pretty much insta win so

[shrewd inlet]

😭

[regal onyx]

buffed Soviets, France and UK in game rules btw

air is just useless and larpers will not admit it

[icy egret]

Never really understood that anyways. Like pick harder country rather than making easy countries more difficult.

[shrewd inlet]

what designs are you cooking up for your air anyways

[plucky turtle]

why did the chinese just lose 500k men in first few days of war for no reason

are they charging machine guns endlessly?

[shrewd inlet]

Chiang flooded the Yellow River

[regal onyx]

pal I have tried EVERYTHING

[icy egret]

it’s china what do you expect

[regal onyx]

from taking templates off the internet

to copying the template the AI uses but with better tech

it simply does not work

[icy egret]

I think @regal onyx is skill issuing as the easy mode country

[plucky turtle]

Makes sense

[regal onyx]

I've invaded the USSR with pure infantry Turkey solo once does that count

[shrewd inlet]

just load up cas with full heavy bomb locks, engine 3s, and self sealing fuel tanks

[regal onyx]

my problem isn't CAS

[shrewd inlet]

put like 5 mils on it

[regal onyx]

my problem is fighters

there are no good fighters

except those the enemy use

[plucky turtle]

they looked wild from the first impression like the sheer size of armies they stationed at my borders before the war seemed intemedating until i saw their division designs and losses

[shrewd inlet]

full heavy mg, engine 3, armor plate, drop tank, self sealing iirc

[south mountain]

Is old hoi4 good?

[shrewd inlet]

wait

are you training your air 💀

[south mountain]

Is it worth "downgrading" hoi4 to an older version

[regal onyx]

tried that exact template once, still didn't work

[regal onyx]

yep

I am

still 300 of mine for 1 of theirs

[shrewd inlet]

uhh unless you're playing an old mod

[regal onyx]

300 German BF-109's for 1 shitty English biplane

[shrewd inlet]

then no

[shrewd inlet]

?

[regal onyx]

shoutout to Darkest Hour

[regal onyx]

casualties

[thick vector]

How can I get manpower as a swedish country

[shrewd inlet]

no im saying

how can your air be this dogshit

lmao

[plucky turtle]

Wait a girl plays hoi4 and seems to have good knowledge of it?

[regal onyx]

I have no idea man

[shrewd inlet]

you'd be suprised

[plucky turtle]

that is A rare token

[plucky turtle]

I should be surprised shouldnt I?

[regal onyx]

they mostly don't reveal themselves cause 90% of the community is just chuds who drool at the sight of a woman on the internet

[shrewd inlet]

probably

[shrewd inlet]

truth nuke

[plucky turtle]

what does drool mean

[south mountain]

LOL

[shrewd inlet]

I'll load up base game rq

[plucky turtle]

where you from the middle east bro?

[regal onyx]

you know how when you wake up you sometimes have saliva on the corner of your mouth

or a flaky feeling

that's drooling

[plucky turtle]

even boys prob put female pfp for no reason idk why

[shrewd inlet]

Some people like the aesthetic

others want a quick buck

[regal onyx]

it's cause girls are cute and boys aren't most of the time

[plucky turtle]

yeah understandable

[shrewd inlet]

🤷‍♀️

[regal onyx]

if you put a cute boy as your pfp people will think you're gay

[plucky turtle]

No boys are

[restive sable]

truthnuke

[plucky turtle]

then why not put a manly pfp?

https://tenor.com/view/heart-love-mustache-change-color-gif-17567673

like this

[regal onyx]

I alternate between them when I'm bored

like 3 weeks or so ago my pfp was Kazım Karabekir

[plucky turtle]

u turkish?

[regal onyx]

yeah

[plucky turtle]

nice to meet you

muslim?

[still kite]

Is there any way of stopping the lag later in a game?

[tame marlin]

They done reduce res and IC cost on navy hell yeah

[regal onyx]

agnostic

[plucky turtle]

Guess mine is aesthetic enough 🔥
right?

[south mountain]

Sadly no, it is the game doing too many calculations.

[regal onyx]

start praying, might work

[plucky turtle]

what is that

[south mountain]

Like the lag is because your CPU has to do A LOT of calculations

[plucky turtle]

deleting the save game helps much

[shrewd inlet]

@regal onyx usually the design i use, perchance swapping out the armor for extra fuel if I need the range. (likely isn't 100% meta but meh)

[south mountain]

My CPU gets to 90 degrees Celsius when playing HOI4

[shrewd inlet]

should rip apart anything the AI throws at you

[plucky turtle]

here is an example pfp of what we talking about

[still kite]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[south mountain]

And 90 degrees Celsius is A LOT for a CPU imo.

[regal onyx]

yeah no I'm sure I've used that exact design before

still doesn't work

Paradox just hates me

[plucky turtle]

Agility?

[grave sonnet]

Hello chat

[shrewd inlet]

no idea why

do you have it on air supereority

[south mountain]

I think it is the ratio of your planes against the enemies or that you have a lot of debuffs

[shrewd inlet]

do you have trained airwings

[regal onyx]

yep

[regal onyx]

yep

[shrewd inlet]

do you use ground crews

[south mountain]

Is training worth it?

[shrewd inlet]

yep

[south mountain]

What is that?

[regal onyx]

exact opposite actually

even if I have more buffs and more planes I still lose

[plucky turtle]

After 500 hours the AI is actually dump and incompetent

[plucky turtle]

like they barely use armour

[regal onyx]

I genuinely have no idea why

[regal onyx]

yeah

[south mountain]

Possibly the airports having too many planes?

The AI likes to have 5k planes in the airport I am using.

[regal onyx]

nope

even if I'm alone

[south mountain]

And thus I get penalties

[plucky turtle]

could you tell which country what year show the designs and screenshot ur air force on airbases

[south mountain]

Do your planes have enough range?

[regal onyx]

opposite problem actually

I wish my allies would make more planes

and put them in useful places

[regal onyx]

always

radars too

[plucky turtle]

that is why AA is king

[regal onyx]

every single country I have played

[plucky turtle]

the problem is?

[regal onyx]

every single year, more specifically 1939-1941 and then it calms down

[regal onyx]

K/D is 1/300

[plucky turtle]

could you show me the design?

[regal onyx]

I'm not looking for a solution cause there is none, I'm just saying why I don't bother using planes at all

[plucky turtle]

also how many planes deployed vs enemy delpoyed

[regal onyx]

I have no set design

I've tried every one I could find

like 8 from the internet, 3 suggested by friends

I have copied the exact design the AI uses

[plucky turtle]

do u have the original game

[regal onyx]

yeah

[plucky turtle]

THEN USE AA

cuz u dont seem to want the solution

[regal onyx]

I WOULD want the solution

there just isn't a solution

the thing I want doesn't exist

[plucky turtle]

there is if you tell enoug info

[south mountain]

I THINK THE SOLUTION CAN BE MODIFYING THE STATS!!!!

[regal onyx]

I've been talking about it for the past 10 minutes man

I've said everything like thrice so far

[plucky turtle]

anyone here interested in A 1v1 game guys?

[south mountain]

I think it is the AI having buffs?

[plucky turtle]

ok

[regal onyx]

no

[south mountain]

Like on what difficulty are you playing?

[regal onyx]

regular

[south mountain]

You must be very unlucky 😭

[regal onyx]

I am

[shrewd inlet]

Radar can also help in air, but my design vs ai design (both iraq and iran given same tech)

[karmic viper]

.

[iron iron]

The Russians surrendered

France is being crushed

[misty fossil]

what

no

ur just doing bad air designs

[regal onyx]

bro you might want to look at the Ottomans

[shrewd inlet]

with radar (actual air detection now)

[iron iron]

Who cares abt them son

They do nothing

And there Turkish

[shrewd inlet]

1. what in the normandy

2. save my goat the ottomans

[misty fossil]

“aa is king” yeah counter this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188372489202577478/1488475994913374289/image.png?ex=69cf8dcb&is=69ce3c4b&hm=e6402eb28f8b531287f940a610fcaad1cec95ee7acf3ffed3459a8b12ae9c149&

[shrewd inlet]

legit bruh

[iron iron]

There are no naval invasions

And the ottamons are so bad

So incompetent aswell

[shrewd inlet]

did you get encircled in northern france then

[iron iron]

No

[shrewd inlet]

wait are you the central powers or entente

[iron iron]

That wasn’t a full encircle

There was one tile left

[shrewd inlet]

ah ic

[iron iron]

Central power

Austria

Having a competent Austria makes one hell of a difference

I did like half of Russia bruh and I got nothing since Ukraine was formed

[shrewd inlet]

is the tree any good?

I've only really played the turks in gwr

[iron iron]

Idfk I haven’t been using it

[shrewd inlet]

all the other trees look ass

[regal onyx]

try having the amount of debuffs and problems they do bro

[iron iron]

Cause they are ass

[shrewd inlet]

Ottomans prefromed significantly better then they should've irl

[iron iron]

Nikolas II?

[shrewd inlet]

a fool

[iron iron]

Beatthem

[regal onyx]

fighting on 4 fronts (5 including Gallipoli) while dealing with 200 internal revolts

[shrewd inlet]

Brusilov offensive my goat but nicky is a bum

[regal onyx]

also consider them sending men to Galicia and Macedonia

[iron iron]

Their problem

[shrewd inlet]

The revolts weren't really that bad iirc

even the arab revolt was a disaster for the entente

[regal onyx]

there were disconnected Arab revolts that failed

not related to the main one in Hejaz

[iron iron]

did Russia just flip communist then get in a loosing civil war against th monarchs

[shrewd inlet]

literally took the british till like 1916 iirc to finally get past the Sinai

failed 3 times to take the city of gaza, had to literally level the city to the ground

[regal onyx]

also got Churchill demoted after Gallipoli

[shrewd inlet]

because Churchill was a fool

[fallen hearth]

does anyone have any idea why my launcher is doing this

all my mods arent loading too when i press to play

[iron iron]

Happened to me aswell

[shrewd inlet]

Gallipoli was failed from the start

[iron iron]

Yeah

[fallen hearth]

weird cause yersterday i was playing normally

[iron iron]

As an Australian it was

[fallen hearth]

went to sleep woke up and that happened

[regal onyx]

btw where are you from

[iron iron]

I’m learning how to play the last post

Might be able to get it by Anzac Day

[shrewd inlet]

as in like born or living currently

[regal onyx]

doesn't really matter

js asked cause you're the first person I've seen who doesn't rip their hair off the moment Turkey is mentioned

[shrewd inlet]

I'll js say the US then

[plucky turtle]

why would someone do so?

[shrewd inlet]

I like the turks, pre CUP ottomans were pretty decent tolerance wise

[regal onyx]

tbh it all started in 1806 with the spread of nationalism

[shrewd inlet]

ofc it wasn't perfect, but it was a hell of alot better than what most empires did

[plucky turtle]

ottomans did bad things

[regal onyx]

Ottomans, and the controversial decisions that were taken in places like Syria

[iron iron]

It was terrible

Who cares abt the ottamons

[shrewd inlet]

oh 100% they did

[plucky turtle]

but they were better at doing bad things than the british tbh

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/bayrak-atatürk-türk-bayrağı-gif-13256610

[iron iron]

I’m genuinely Greek and Australian I’m the D1 turkey hater

[plucky turtle]

than americans too

[misty fossil]

TURKEY MENTION

[plucky turtle]

like?

[shrewd inlet]

Look up why so many armenians are in syria and iraq

[plucky turtle]

of what origins are you?

[regal onyx]

also why there are Assyrians in Iran

[shrewd inlet]

sobbing

[plucky turtle]

understood no need to search

[regal onyx]

Ottomans wanted to send 10,000 pounds in aid to Ireland but the British blocked it cause they didn't want to get sidelined

[plucky turtle]

the problem?

[regal onyx]

and the Ottomans still forced in ships full of food to Irish ports through the blockade

[shrewd inlet]

this is also very true btw, many Turkish leaders believed in schizophrenic ideas of pan Turkism, and saw other minorities as inferior. Alot of the Ottoman crimes & deportations were to expel non turks from Anatolia to resettle them with turks.

Kemal also continued late ottoman resettlement policies

[regal onyx]

the French Revolution was genuinely the most catastrophic event in history

simply because it jumpstarted the idea of nationalism

[shrewd inlet]

isn't a bad thing on paper

[plucky turtle]

meanwhile what the ottomans did in the middle east?

[regal onyx]

this was before CUP

while it was an absolute monarchy, the Ottomans genuinely didn't care what you did as long as you didn't pull up a bullshit rebellion

it all came with democratization efforts that CUP killed like 3 million people in 2 years

[plucky turtle]

true but i was talking about the ottoman era specially in middle east like my country is

[regal onyx]

most peaceful time for the region

[plucky turtle]

in your pov

but in ours

it was not

[regal onyx]

which era specifically

[iron iron]

god

[plucky turtle]

what is peace without honor and independence?

[regal onyx]

which era are you talking about by "your pov"

[plucky turtle]

1500s till 1800s

[regal kestrel]

Are there any overpowered strategy or mechanics for singleplayer to make life easy?

[shrewd inlet]

Yeah, it might be over

[regal onyx]

spam 9 inf support eng support art divisions until you run out of mp

[plucky turtle]

use breakthrough maxxing

[restive sable]

yikes

[iron iron]

I forgot to cancel my lend lease with Germany

[plucky turtle]

unless u are the soviets

[iron iron]

From like 2 years ago

[regal onyx]

that was the most peaceful era

[iron iron]

😭

[plucky turtle]

As i said for you

[regal onyx]

legit the only time the Ottomans killed Arabs was when the proto-fascists were in power during WW1

[plucky turtle]

not for us

[iron iron]

Ww1 and Russians have surrendered

[regal kestrel]

Im a bit new... sooo do you got a picture of the template or a better description

[plucky turtle]

arabs ,egyptians and north africans

[regal onyx]

you know the infantry template major powers such as Germany or France start with?

that

[iron iron]

I’m so done

[plucky turtle]

actually this is what on the surface but deep on below there is much more crimes

[regal onyx]

genuinely the only time the Balkans and Middle East had absolute peace were during Ottoman times cause they introduced proper administration and laws while keeping ethnic conflict to a minimum

[paper mango]

time to find another intersting achievement to get

[iron iron]

0 percent war support 😭

[regal onyx]

not that big of a deal

you'll do fine

I play every game with 0 stab 0 support and I still win

[iron iron]

ITALY SURRENDERD TUCK YEAH

[regal onyx]

just a tiny pebble

W

[plucky turtle]

actually we already had proper of everything before the ottomans so?

[iron iron]

well we signed peace

I got my original land

And the war stopped with Italy

[restive sable]

chat what country and what path do i play when i get home

[iron iron]

So

[regal onyx]

proper of everything is kurdish and arab tribes going to war 24/7 with sticks and stones and killing each other?

[regal kestrel]

ahh like thiss but without the one soldier, just 3x3?

[iron iron]

Massive naval
Invasion on Hungary so idk if I should help them or help Germany with France

[regal onyx]

yep

[regal kestrel]

okayyy ty

[iron iron]

As Austria who do I help

[regal onyx]

kill Serbia then help the Ottomans

just to distarct the Entente

[iron iron]

Ottamans capped so long ago

[regal onyx]

damn you're done

try to save Thrace

you can hold the Bosphorus

it's over if they cross

[iron iron]

Yeah I’m done

[plucky turtle]

what do i has to do with kurds or arabs i am egyptian

[paper mango]

is greece fun?

[iron iron]

I’m hanging up the boots and playing as France new run

[regal onyx]

I was talking about the middle east in general

[iron iron]

Battle of the Bosphorus dlc

Then it is

[regal onyx]

and egyptians have been arabs for a long long time

[paper mango]

yea i have all the dlc's

[maiden bolt]

lets

[paper mango]

so greece it is

[maiden bolt]

go

[regal onyx]

only the ones dwelling the sahara still have some african left

[maiden bolt]

i finallly

got the new dlc

for once

in my life holy

[paper mango]

time to see what achievements greece has

[plucky turtle]

the middle east in general was under mamluki egyptian state which was centralized propely and peacfully

so the ottomans was pretty much of an occupation

[regal onyx]

and?

[plucky turtle]

also they pillaged and looted a lot of egypt and cairo

[regal onyx]

I was more specifically talking about after the Ottomans had dominance over the middle east

life isn't sunshine and rainbows of course rich cities will get looted

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[plucky turtle]

And the looters cant be called good old days people

[regal onyx]

they can

every single group on this earth has looted cities

I'm not saying "looting is good"

I'm just saying this is equal to any type of occupation

[grave flower]

wow

[plucky turtle]

ok then occupation is occupation and ottomans did occupy so we dont like ottomans and we are 100% valid cuz they werent good also they exploited the middle east they did not act as a muslim caliphate uniting islam but instead occupying its brothers

anyway nvm

it all doesnt mind

[regal onyx]

ANYTHING to fight Serbs 😭

[plucky turtle]

have a good day

[regal onyx]

my point is everyone does that dude

[restive sable]

they're a little confused but they've got the spirit

[safe wing]

6000 years of human history proves me right

[plucky turtle]

ok

[turbid thorn]

what im doing wrong

[thick vector]

[regal onyx]

you're winning aren't you?

[turbid thorn]

i dont

[plucky turtle]

why do you assume you are doing wron?

[regal onyx]

you are

the bubble is green

[plucky turtle]

exactly

[turbid thorn]

until now

and i losing

and idk how

[plucky turtle]

show unit count

why did you hide it

[turbid thorn]

i dont

[rich quartz]

supply

[regal onyx]

do you have equipment

[turbid thorn]

ye

[plucky turtle]

use all forces in edirne to support the attack

[rich quartz]

in the province closest to the sea

[plucky turtle]

and when the 5 stationed units in right tile regain org use them in the attack too

then yo win easily

[turbid thorn]

like uh i doin everything for supply but when its start its goes out

[plucky turtle]

also use art if you have some

[loud shuttle]

W logic

[plucky turtle]

and motor or little tanks if your industry dont mind for some breakthrough

[turbid thorn]

with turkey in 1939

.....

[iron iron]

OH MY GOD

IM PLAUONG AS GERMANY

AND DESTROYING

[plucky turtle]

nope he has full supply

[iron iron]

EVERYONE

[rich quartz]

probably org then

[plucky turtle]

just do as i told you it is easy

[plucky turtle]

yes that is what i said he should wait for stationed units to regain org then attack

[rich quartz]

what about air?

[plucky turtle]

doesnt really matter since he is fighting bulgaria

i guess as turkey it could be achived with minimalistic effort

200 inter war fighters would be decent

or just use AA

[plucky turtle]

support company

he could also win with no Air at all

assuming bulgaria has no major allies

[rich quartz]

just makes it easier

a naval diversion would be good too

[charred brook]

ugliest peace conference results I have ever had

[snow rain]

for the exact same reason as the dozen other times you asked
bad templates, no equipment, no attempt to fix any of either

[pulsar wraith]

A colonial communist french nation

Lovely

[snow rain]

<@&846894118219022336>

in all channels

[uncut pollen]

[prisma saddle]

holy shiii

bitterstil save me

[plucky turtle]

japan is the only reasonable

[plucky turtle]

u have mountains

[plucky turtle]

I think i Could would you mind sending the save?

[prisma saddle]

uhm

it changed a bit

[plucky turtle]

just send it

dont ruin it anyfurther please

gofile.com

upload it here

send the link

[gritty crystal]

[fathom shard]

https://giphy.com/gifs/muslim-thanos-gifs-hands-please-memes-uPxEnSV2FoEKQEgOlQ

[languid patrol]

why do all state update mods crash my game

?

[fathom shard]

guys isn4t this a beautiful asia

[wild sedge]

oh lord

[plucky turtle]

NO

it is german asia

[charred brook]

I am so screwed

[wild sedge]

at least you weren't me looking to play base france with no dlcs

[charred brook]

I have 31 divisions trying to kill some Italians who landed in Albania

I suck at hoi4

[wild sedge]

and then I was also dumb enough to try and get the "501st Legion" achievement

guess how that went

[snow rain]

please adress the alerts at the top of the screen ...

[charred brook]

Czechoslovakia is in a civil war and they are sending italy volunteers

[charred brook]

It looks nice though

[fathom shard]

is this a good template chat

[arctic fable]

Can a 1v1 Germany-Soviets be made fair? It's basically a contest who can build the strongest airforce in time, and it's basically always the Germans

[charred brook]

I did it

[fathom shard]

if you severely nerf germany then yes

[iron iron]

Ww1 was is to hard

[charred brook]

guys this is concerning

[fathom shard]

are rangers even good

[iron iron]

Romania gets so eaten

[charred brook]

incirclement

guys I'm actually doing things to win a war

[woven gate]

genuinely will crush anything it comes by

[woven gate]

my favorite SF probably

[fathom shard]

yeah it did

[charred brook]

most cursed nation in this game

[fathom shard]

tanks are literally useless againsst sfs

the ic difference is also brutal

[thick vector]

Is artillery enough up to artillery II?

[wild sedge]

Ehhhhhh

Usually

[plucky turtle]

guys how do I attack against large armies with poor divisions

like little battalions but the sheer amount of divisions make it unbeatable

[wild sedge]

So try and attack from different directions

The divisions dont matter

You can reinforce meme them out

[plucky turtle]

it is againt china

would it work if i drain their manpower?

[fathom shard]

just a little bit different

[wild sedge]

What you can do is attack from several directions, then a potential force attack, and that should do the job

[plucky turtle]

or they have endless manpower?

[wild sedge]

That will never happen

[plucky turtle]

why

[wild sedge]

You need to encircle their divisions in large pockets and then wipe those out

[wild sedge]

It’s China

[plucky turtle]

they lost 600k in the first week

[wild sedge]

That is nothing to them

[plucky turtle]

ok

i will try

[plucky turtle]

they have 5 m deployed

i have 5.6 million

[wild sedge]

But those divisions are bad

You’ll win

[plucky turtle]

but most are on western front

[wild sedge]

Just remember

Encircle and destroy

[plucky turtle]

yeah they eng company art company and 9 battalions

of inf

[wild sedge]

Attack from multiple sides

[plucky turtle]

500 divisions btw

[wild sedge]

That is basic. You will be fine

The eng companies offer entrenchment bonuses but just keep attacking and that wont matter

Arty company is a small problem but you will outmatch them

[plucky turtle]

I have modern tanks heavy IS 2 and t54 modern tanks t44 medium tanks and su fighter jets mechanized armored divisons and speed medium tank divisions

lots of motorised too

[wild sedge]

Can you give me a screenshot of your templates

[plucky turtle]

46 divs of motorised

[wild sedge]

And this is single player?

[plucky turtle]

i have 550 mills so yes

[fathom shard]

peak spg

[plucky turtle]

around 500k small arms on stockpile

and 60k art

[wild sedge]

Not bad at all

[plucky turtle]

tons and tons of equipment

[wild sedge]

You’ll be perfectly fine

Just attack in force

[plucky turtle]

• 5 million deployed and 2 mill training

seems good

[fair horizon]

Chat i feel horrible, i just discovered that the canadians do stuffed crust pizza with hot dogs and not cheese

[wild sedge]

Pinning attacks with encirclements and CAS will help

[plucky turtle]

I just cant attack full force cuz i am expecting an attack any time from western allies

it is 1947

tensions rising

[wild sedge]

Based on your force count you should be able to hold

Soviets?

Because you don’t need to worry about the West

What you can do is set up a defensive line along the Dneiper River

[fair horizon]

Should have taken out russsia by now

[plucky turtle]

I will but my main armored breakthrough force was stationed in europe when china suddenly declared war I had enough infantry there to hold but no breakthrough divisions to punch them

[wild sedge]

Ok that is an issue

[plucky turtle]

I am soviet union

[wild sedge]

I would find mountainous terrain to hold them.

Confine them to bad supply stations

[fair horizon]

My point still stands i guess

[plucky turtle]

But it seems fun to have an unexpected game and act like real geopolitics which is rare in hoi4

[wild sedge]

Yeah

[plucky turtle]

done

[plucky turtle]

done too

[plucky turtle]

wdym take out russia if i am russia myself lol

[wild sedge]

But just do these steps:

Defensive line along the Dneiper River
Hold the Chinese back; they won’t break through
Prepare a new breakthrough force for China
Establish better supply along all fronts
Prepare for potential naval landings with garrisons
Hold the Allies until they bleed themselves dry of manpower. Then attack with full force and crush them so you can focus on China

And make sure your airforce is updated with the best templates so you can provide sufficient CAS and Air Superiority

[woven gate]

called it, i really need to try SPGs

[plucky turtle]

supply established already i was working on it since early 1946 after war with germany cuz i expected future conflict with unified china cuz I wanted to spread communism there

[wild sedge]

Ok good

[plucky turtle]

naval landings no cuz i hate navy although i understand it

[wild sedge]

Just make some cheap port garrisons to hold your ports

[plucky turtle]

Done

[wild sedge]

Ok good

[fathom shard]

they're just tanks but better literally

[plucky turtle]

I am not at war with allies but the war plans and invasions are read to be excuted any moment

[wild sedge]

Which is why I listed down what I did so you can get entrenchment and prepare for attacks

[plucky turtle]

nkvd units work fine

[wild sedge]

NKVD works fine, yes

[woven gate]

Frederick the Great mentioned

[wild sedge]

Just do not hold the line around Poland or smth

Not worth it

Dneiper river much better

[wild sedge]

Yes I am Frederick the Great

[plucky turtle]

I am holding at the rhein

germany is puppet

[wild sedge]

The Rhine is also good

Actualky yknow what

Just send me a screenshot

[plucky turtle]

would you like to see my attacking divisions?

[wild sedge]

Because idk what your map looks like

So just send me the screenshot for your inf divs and map

[plucky turtle]

road to 56 btw

[wild sedge]

Ok so your western line is going to fall I guarantee

The south is fine for now

[plucky turtle]

why do u think so?

they have bad supply

the allies

[wild sedge]

The area around the Netherlands is wide open

It’s all plains tiles

They’ll get to Hamburg

[plucky turtle]

do u underestimate the red army?

https://tenor.com/view/gulag-joseph-stalin-gif-1303406357648712159

[wild sedge]

No I don’t, I just think that the naval invasions and the terrible tiles won’t help

The Rhine is good for now but you are set up along the mountains and not the river (river better)

[plucky turtle]

maybe we get little pushed in netherlands but other than that it would be fine

[wild sedge]

I think so too but my concern is the plains tiles

[plucky turtle]

Italy front with france is also easy to defend

[wild sedge]

Those are a pain

[plucky turtle]

and greece would fall quickly

[wild sedge]

Yeah don’t worry about that

Set up like an army or two and that’ll hold

[plucky turtle]

and for turkey I can leave it for them and reatreat to the bosporus until my punch units are back from china

[wild sedge]

If worse comes to worse

And the Allies to manage a breakthrough

Pull the line back to Berlin and the river line there

[plucky turtle]

it is so fun strategically thinking of my campaign with someone

[wild sedge]

And set up along the Sudetenland forts

The fort line with the river should hold

The southern front should hold

[plucky turtle]

Yeah i have so many lines of reatreat and defense

[wild sedge]

Good

[plucky turtle]

also many men than the enemy have bullets

and quality divisions

[wild sedge]

The Danube river will also hold as well

[plucky turtle]

the only losses that concern me is my gpu

[wild sedge]

What do the templates look like

[sinful cloud]

any playthrough ideas?

i'm just staring at the country screen for the last 1hr

[wild sedge]

Germany and the restoration of the Empire

For Frederick the Great

Maybe a little Holy Roman Empire stuff too
Or maybe Rome as Italy

[plucky turtle]

poland

[plucky turtle]

let me show you

1 by one

equivalent of light tank divisions but for 1946 modernity

@wild sedge

[wild sedge]

Now I’m more of a medium tank lover but this is good

unless these are mediums

in which i am slow

[plucky turtle]

I just dont want to send all at once so that you get to see each one properly

[wild sedge]

But these are very good

Inf next I dont really care for the other lmao

[plucky turtle]

there is yet mediums to come

T 44 perfect balance tank

[wild sedge]

I know the mech divs are good so just the inf will do

[plucky turtle]

assault infantry

[wild sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-mike-myers-yeah-baby-yeah-gif-1691826607058877752

[plucky turtle]

good?

[wild sedge]

Very

[plucky turtle]

kinda cheap too

[amber matrix]

so easy

[plucky turtle]

i produce dedicated variants of tanks for them to sacrifice speed for amrour breakthrough and soft attack

[amber matrix]

ngl ur weird

just make a tank with all of them

[plucky turtle]

actually no why do you think so?

attacking mech

motorised attacking divisons the backbone of attacking armies

cheap and effective at defense and offensive

[vital cove]

@heavy vigil casey im maclle holding

(gonna die to no equipment at some point)

[maiden bolt]

whos gonna win the war

[plucky turtle]

switzerland because in war both sides lose

[maiden bolt]

its the french polish and italy vs germany

[plucky turtle]

still switzerland is the only winner

[viscid stirrup]

use mech

[plucky turtle]

it gives much better stats if you sacrifice speed

[plucky turtle]

this mech good?

[plucky turtle]

.

[plucky turtle]

I use both anyway but motor is more common since the soviet front is huge and mech isnt as cheap as motor

[safe wing]

As long as you have Ethopian Steiner you can win this

[plucky turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/downfall-steiner-mein-fuhrer-steiner-gif-24733130

[safe wing]

This gif is in my favorites btw

So I can react with it when people botch their Germany campaign

[plucky turtle]

i just wrote steiner and it apeared

seemed pretty useable in this situation

why isnt steiner in hoi4?

[vital cove]

i just need to hold until i get to the focus that gives me equipment. once i get there i won

[plucky turtle]

would be cool achievment if like the conditions are

Capture moscow under steiner command when the soviets has controlled any tile in germany

called steiner,s counter attack

[plucky turtle]

if you had around like maybe 6 or 7 factories you could have converted all to mills

and put 5 on infantry and 1 or smthing on support

would be enough to sustain a mountanious donut

with some defensive doctorine enabled

would exhaust the enemy

until ww2 starts

then push when they are distracted in north africa

i dont think pushing before 1940 is good idea unless italians have too little forces in africa horn

[maiden bolt]

its 4v1 and somehow france, poland italy, and romania is struggling💔

[vital cove]

ggs italy is dead]

[severe lion]

rate infantry i have 99 of them and all the equipment

[maiden bolt]

5v1 crazy

[viscid stirrup]

the german player has no one to blame but himself for his incompetence

[maiden bolt]

Its Ai

[viscid stirrup]

a clanker?

whos the human

[sleek dew]

hi guys

[maiden bolt]

Im playing single player 💔🫩

[sleek dew]

uhhh

[viscid stirrup]

so you are the human

which country

[maiden bolt]

USA

[viscid stirrup]

how havent you capped germany already

you start withh 100000 civs

[weak magnet]

any mod that gets rid of the non-stop annex notifs for a battleroyale mod?

the ones are out of date

[fair horizon]

Should be part of australia

[sleek dew]

hey 55

@maiden bolt

[maiden bolt]

Huh

[sleek dew]

I'm new to this game, could you teach me a little bit about it?

[maiden bolt]

Im bad at explaining things your gonna have to ask someone else

[sleek dew]

ok

[agile tundra]

@sweet marlin you have a friend?

[sweet marlin]

no

[sweet marlin]

but i can with a random

play

[maiden bolt]

should i help them beat germany its a 5v1 and they are losing

[vital cove]

lol no italy is weak af

war ended here

[sleek dew]

the game was really like a ages of conflict in your picture 💀

[vital cove]

i could win much earlier tho

[sleek dew]

hey haffy

[amber matrix]

i think im losing guys

[thick vector]

In your opinion, what neutral country is better besides Sweden and Switzerland?

[heavy vigil]

thats awesome

[sleek dew]

yeah but ı wanna ask something

[amber matrix]

ok

[sleek dew]

how could you find 1.30M manpower

in Ireland

[amber matrix]

what?

[sleek dew]

How you find 1.30M man pwoer?

power*

[amber matrix]

im playing as germany

[thick vector]

In your opinion, what neutral country is better besides Sweden and Switzerland?

[sleek dew]

ohh

@amber matrix ı think ı am blind sorru

y

sorry*

[agile tundra]

only if we find any

[vital cove]

hi

[vital cove]

took me a bit of microing, but it held

[sleek dew]

how about we create a Multiplayer

[ripe slate]

Turkey?

[vital cove]

not rn I won't have the patience for another full game

[brave siren]

I didn’t know Colombia would be this easy

[sleek dew]

ok

[thick vector]

Good idea, I can join the allies and take over the Balkans to restore Ottoman territory

[ripe slate]

imo you should only play it with mods and BftB dlc thoug

[sleek dew]

I'm going to teach Turkish to the server now, whoever wants to learn, send me a DM. 🤓

[ripe slate]

without mods the tree is quite slow

[thick vector]

I can do without DLC and mods

[ripe slate]

nu uh, boring

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[sleek dew]

hey mradin

[thick vector]

What?

[sleek dew]

wanna teach a Turkish?

[prime marsh]

yapma ya

[sleek dew]

aha türk buldum

[thick vector]

No

[ripe slate]

Welcome btw

[sleek dew]

@prime marsh türküm de

bana

[thick vector]

Ok

[prime marsh]

türkümde

[sleek dew]

yeee

[prime marsh]

yea

it is

[ripe slate]

@prime marsh@sleek dew
 English only or go to DMs

[prime marsh]

understood

[sleek dew]

🙁

[sleek dew]

go to dm

[prime marsh]

nothing ever happens in pearl harbor

[vital cove]

aussa and the Ethiopia releasables having focus tree is so ass

its so much worse than the default focus tree

[heavy vigil]

:D

[heavy vigil]

it gives state pop thooo

and militia tech

and also special forces tech 1

even if you have dlc enabled

in the right side tree

just research bad

[vital cove]

well my main issue is that its useless for puppets

no factories

but also no gun 3

brick

[thick vector]

Do you know that photo of Wingston Churchill on hoi4 when he was 67?

[sleek dew]

get other spain and win

just this

.d

[fair horizon]

is this modded or just a vanilla path?

[faint fiber]

modded

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-fortnite-fortnite-ishowspeed-cheeks-ishowspeed-blow-gif-8384090200881199846

[fair horizon]

oml my eyes are horrible when i didnt see the economy stuff

IM HALF BLIND ITS NOT MY FAULT

[thick vector]

It's clear that it's a mod

[fair horizon]

tbf i was looking at the map

[thick vector]

[fair horizon]

look at the texture

[craggy trail]

[thick vector]

[indigo elk]

OMG how on earth do you get enough PP to prevent the dominions from leaving as Britain?!

[maiden bolt]

Never Touch the United states boats

[fair horizon]

you can stop doing focuses

[half furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cuba-cuban-fidel-castro-fact-check-fact-checked-gif-16388435077673777298

[fair horizon]

doing a focus is -1pp per day

though you should be able to prevent them leaving without that

[safe wing]

https://tenor.com/view/yamato-kantai-collecton-gif-8295436215619651864

[indigo elk]

I rushed Organise blackshirts, waited until I installed Mosley, then rushed secure the dominions, God Save the King and down to Appeal to the Loyalists... was that where I went wrong, i.e should have stopped after Secure the dominions?

[fair horizon]

i usually secure canada india and australia at bare minimuim

i think if you do martial law they cant leave

i dont remember the decisions off the top of my head though

[sleek dew]

lemme ask something

[indigo elk]

Can you even sure them all?

[fair horizon]

yes

ive done it multiple times

you usually have to pre-place troops

[indigo elk]

I thought martial law and and propaganda would be enough to slow them down, but apparently not.

[indigo elk]

I did that.

[plucky turtle]

there is a joke that i dont get to understand

[fair horizon]

i play australia and all the world belongs to my empire

[plucky turtle]

hydrogen star vs dead baby

[dire rapids]

Is there a vanilla focus tree for Ireland?

[fair horizon]

no

[plucky turtle]

I dont think you own the world in my game

which is your skill issue

that u have to solve

[fair horizon]

but the default tree is amazing so

[indigo elk]

I wonder if I am turning fascist too soon. By rushing it and spamming the events maybe I am leaving myself too little PP to convert everything quick enough.

[quasi osprey]

is 168 factories nice for 1940

?

[fair horizon]

could be

[fair horizon]

which country

[clever shuttle]

can anyone help me in my game in helping lounge 1

[fair horizon]

whats the issue?

[clever shuttle]

dont know how to progress

[quasi osprey]

finland

[fair horizon]

🤮

[quasi osprey]

😕 yeah should have got more

[craggy trail]

So I'm starting my playthrough today of the new ||Imperial Condominium of New Mareland||

[clever shuttle]

can anyone help me in my game in helping lounge 1

[quasi osprey]

the nordics are so strange barely any population but crazy amounts of steel and factories😭

[fair horizon]

wait that looks fun

[craggy trail]

We get to ||search around for different artifacts 🏴‍☠️ ||

[wooden crag]

I want dlcs so bad

[regal kestrel]

Are Space Marines still op?

[winged field]

works well in early years, work less well later unless you have like 60-70 armor on your division

[craggy trail]

@fair horizon And best of all, ||the preparation focus tree|| ||for a war on the Griffonian Continent|| and|| the eventual return to Equus||||, who is under the the rulership of the Mane 6 ||

[vernal beacon]

boi i just started playing hoi4 watched some tutorials but i always feel like im doing something wrong

[regal kestrel]

okayy uhm I wanna win a Singleplayer Germany Game. Is there anything how I can win it like super easy?

[upbeat tundra]

more redacted then the stein files

[vernal beacon]

i cant win no wars at all only small countrys with little to no tech

[unkempt orchid]

Name a tuff country to play in hoi4

all dlcs

[winged field]

your goals? all alies or just the ones within euorpe?

[upbeat tundra]

little saint james

[vernal beacon]

and i feel overwhelmed with all the tech you need to develop at the same time its wayy too much

[serene breach]

FUN FACT: heavy SPG works well against zombies

[regal kestrel]

I wanna win the second world war against the allies

[winged field]

tbh most of the guides videos are quite old, anything older than 1 month might be outdated to some degree

so yeah

[winged field]

justify in 36 on netherlands (sweet rubber from dutch east indies)

then just build up

do normal historical stuff except you want to defeat UK before going for ussr

before USA joins

[upbeat tundra]

dont forget to take ireland

[winged field]

not as important really

but sure

[upbeat tundra]

still good to have as a base against the brits

[wooden crag]

I can’t seem to understand the division making stuff. Even if I have 24 divisions against 5 they always win

[upbeat tundra]

okay thats an issue of organization

and supply

[regal kestrel]

Okayyy but there's no magical singleplayer cheese like back then? Like to build space marines or build allot paratroops and make them land in all different cities to force a nation surrender?

[winged field]

eh, if you could get from ireland without nav invasion to uk sure but this way it just the same as nav invading from france

[upbeat tundra]

fair

[maiden bolt]

Everything is going according to Plan

[craggy trail]

Well, it is April Fools content for Equestria at War. I heard that Anbennar and Old World Blues were supposed to have AF content too, but somehow they (On Anbennar's side) deleted the AF content on accident.

[wooden crag]

yes they always say they can’t move or advance because they’re not organized or they have attrition. And supply idk what that is. Please help

😭

[winged field]

you can do paratroopers sure

[regal kestrel]

worth it?

[winged field]

there is no one way to do it

[clever shuttle]

how do i beat china in 1944

[vernal beacon]

i cant even defeat paraguay as fricking brazil with bolivia annexed

😭

[snow rain]

you need to learn what stats do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dcp1ooD_YqY

[winged field]

For me I rather just nav invade from france

[regal kestrel]

okayy but I even got problems with france

[upbeat tundra]

whats ur div template

[winged field]

like?

[wooden crag]

Will save. Thanks dude

[upbeat tundra]

nationalist china is a cakewalk

[vernal beacon]

i waited 2 years for the perfect invasion and it didnt even break thru the defense

[regal kestrel]

I got 1.5x their troops but I cant win any battle

[clever shuttle]

ragebait?? they have 200 divs in mountains

[upbeat tundra]

200 weak divs that get folded

[winged field]

what is your attacking division template?

[upbeat tundra]

every playthrough i go against them their supply is atrocious

[regal kestrel]

this but without the guy circled

[wooden crag]

this for tanks. And the usual for inf

[vernal beacon]

idk how i can improve i just fail at the same thing everytime

[upbeat tundra]

why not mechanized?

[wooden crag]

early game

italy

[winged field]

good template for holding but dont expect it to attack well

[clever shuttle]

you need mountaineers and so many divs and if they have more then three units in an mountain province its gg, and there are no supply hubs

[wooden crag]

Not many recourses

[regal kestrel]

hmm explains allot

[winged field]

you either want 36w tanks

[upbeat tundra]

i usually just put a fallback order on them or just take shx early game

[winged field]

or 36w infantry (but only if you get at least 200 breaktrhough)

[regal kestrel]

okayy, you got a template for that I can copy?

[upbeat tundra]

i sometimes do full mech

for prussia

[winged field]

for example

[regal kestrel]

okayy but still medium tanks?

[vernal beacon]

Please help somehow 🙏

[upbeat tundra]

med tanks are goated

[winged field]

spgs

self proppeled artillery

[winged field]

mid compared to spgs

[vernal beacon]

i have all of the dlcs too

[heavy vigil]

video game

[vernal beacon]

name me a good country or so please

i wanna start new

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/slovensko-caputova

[heavy vigil]

congo

[winged field]

yeah just switch to spgs

[raven lava]

Will Thunder at our Gates include a Mengkukuo tree

[vernal beacon]

had italy didnt work out, had brazil didnt work out, had greece didnt work out

[winged field]

little bit of this and little bit of that ahh template

[upbeat tundra]

its so peak

[winged field]

totally...

[wooden crag]

bro what

[thick vector]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[vernal beacon]

belgian congo?

[sleek dew]

guys

ı got a Restricton -_-

[upbeat tundra]

its for this country

"german reich" starting template

[vernal beacon]

is it cheating if i play on recruit for now i dont wanna get bad habits

[winged field]

not cheating but you will learn way more from playinh regular

you do you do tho

its your game

[mellow nimbus]

NOOOO NOT ISLAND

[safe wing]

Trivia time Of the 7 major nations which are the historical factions each one belongs too

[steel zephyr]

uh oh

[tired tendon]

why is the consumer good factories factor sign yellow and not red? if im not mistaken, consumer good factories are just wasted ones so why is it yellow, indicating it can be useful in some circumstances, and not red, indiicating its always bad?

[upbeat tundra]

comintern will solo frfr

[heavy vigil]

because its yellow

[tired tendon]

well thats an answer i guess

sorry if thats a dumb question i have like 7 hours on this game

mb ten

[vocal bolt]

is the great war mod any good