hoi4-general

[unreal mica]

Finally 1955..

[wanton whale]

This is beautiful in every way

[unreal mica]

The final killcount

[faint fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/spoiler-gif-24641133

[fathom shard]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-yeah-right-ishowspeed-yeah-ishowspeed-right-ishowspeed-stream-gif-2870397197282141259

[high vector]

how tf did egypt even find 4 million men

[dusky burrow]

why do you have artillery divisions

no wonder you lost paris

[viscid mason]

Hi Liv

[fair horizon]

Chat i just discovered by a technicality that japan is in fact part of north america

[safe wing]

Syngman ree still has a generic portrait

the first leader and dictator of South Korea

[heavy vigil]

because of hokkaido? sakhalin? the kuril islands?

[wary sparrow]

1 month into the war, soviet casualties not looking very good

[little scarab]

why cant i proclaim spy master?

[vital cove]

need 3 different branches

[little scarab]

oh different branches

[sly venture]

I genuinely wonder how when I first starting playing broke through maginot with the starting Germany division

[wary sparrow]

cause its france

casualty update

its now 3 months into the war

[safe wing]

this good (I'm gonna add flame tanks)?

[maiden bolt]

the united states is now a fascist its time to start world war 3

[safe wing]

how many years did it take to do this in MD

[daring geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/franklin-lamar-lamar-roasts-franklin-gif-19948223

[maiden bolt]

like 2 years

[faint fiber]

to long

[wary sparrow]

soviets somehow have unlimited planes

[indigo rune]

is S perm a interesting country?

im playing with Every state indpendent

[wary sparrow]

yeah the casualties are not in their favor

[fallen garnet]

Do I really need to walk all the way back there?

Ive destroyed like all their industry and killed like 8 million of them

[lethal ether]

what r u playing as

also no

[fallen garnet]

germany

[lethal ether]

soviets cap before that

show picture of what u captured?

[fallen garnet]

ignore romania xD

[lethal ether]

u gotta push a little bit more and get the smaller victory points

[fallen garnet]

alr thx 😄

[clear dagger]

am i allowed to acknowledge the Vichy France in the room?

[cold frigate]

what doctirine do i pick as germany

[high vector]

mobile warfare

[fallen garnet]

yes, I have no idea how they got there but yes

[maiden bolt]

second american mexican war

[clear dagger]

why is aids in the american flag

[wraith mauve]

Should I do new deal or gold standard and limited intervention or neutrality act

[fair horizon]

Ai does that

[maiden bolt]

idk

[fair horizon]

Go fascist

[safe wing]

This almost never happens in non hist

[fading coral]

what path are you wanting to do?

[keen pebble]

should i be building multiple research facilities or do i only need one of each?

[fading coral]

if you are doing memes do communist because you can annex the ussr

[fading coral]

You only need one and maybe a second, but the third isn’t worth the ic in my opinion

[keen pebble]

what does having multiple even do?

[fading coral]

slightly more speed in reserach

[keen pebble]

i see alr

[fading coral]

*research

[mystic nest]

one of each

the slight speed buff isnt worth it at all

[maiden bolt]

Revenge for 1812

[halcyon sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025

[brave siren]

did man the guns get integrated into the base game

i can't find it in the dlc list

[languid copper]

yeah it did

[brave siren]

oh damn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1449455722239754280/1458640713230188724/attachment.gif

now i gotta stop buying dlc

cause ill eventually get it for free

[restive sable]

integrated all of my alliance members after this

democratic brazil pretty cool

[cold frigate]

how does this happen???

did i misclick cuz this has never happened\

[keen pebble]

how to i get breakthrough points?

[calm delta]

Intresting

You gave benito his dream

[clever shuttle]

just keep naval invading, yall will soon succeed🥹

[whole matrix]

I need my hair back

[keen pebble]

should i be making devisions that have a lot of speed?

[viscid mason]

no not really.

[high vector]

motorized and armor

[keen pebble]

i read something about like shock units and how its good to have divisions that can rush into open tiles quickly

[restive sable]

not necessarily

[heavy vigil]

do you want to?

[woeful knoll]

Thank you britian for reviving argentina lmao

[pulsar saffron]

by god i hate chile

[woeful knoll]

I hate you to

[pulsar saffron]

this is my second brazil run because i didnt realise allies would join in when i declared on chile

i declared on them the earliest i could this time in 37

stalemate 💀

naval invasion failed, flipping argentina communist succeeded but they wont join my faction until im at peace, my current plan was to industrialise and build up an air force to paradrop and also collab govts

[woeful knoll]

why are you playign brazil without dlc tho

[pulsar saffron]

then they randomly called in allies

because im challenging myself

and cos i dont have the dlc

[native holly]

monroe moment

[woeful knoll]

thats the last country i would play without dlc

[fair horizon]

They finally pulled their weight

[fair horizon]

They dont if you declare on them before capturing argentina

[pulsar saffron]

ive got a brazil brainworm im not stopping until i make a nice looking communist latin american faction as default tree brazil

wdym

[woeful knoll]

Easiest run ever as chile
all my enemies are super weak

[pulsar saffron]

run 1 i declared chile in like 38 and allies joined immediately
run 2 i declared chile in 37 and allies joined in 40

im thinking run 3 ill divert spies from flipping argentina to making collab govts in chile

and naval invade again

[restive sable]

what country to play

[pulsar saffron]

because i did briefly manage to take capital

[restive sable]

hmmmm

[pulsar saffron]

unless theres a magic template feasible for brazil to make to push 24 chileans out of every tile

[clever shuttle]

Japan i dont think ur naval invasion are working bro

[rapid furnace]

Wish me luck

[pulsar saffron]

or unless theres a feasible way for me (~120 hrs played) to defend against allies or even cap britain (there isnt) as default tree brazil

[obsidian nexus]

have yall ever seen this? historical ai on, its mid 1937 and ai italy STILL hasnt beat ethiopia

[slim idol]

German civil war is easy

[restive sable]

i've seen them take until 1942 at the very latest before

[pulsar saffron]

i saw them take till december but it was ahistorical

[restive sable]

though usually if they struggle it's a sign they're going to go civil war

[fair horizon]

If you dont generate a lot of world tension the allies dont care

[restive sable]

oh wait historical

idek

[obsidian nexus]

historical is insane

they flipped democrat and we can send volunteers to em too

[pulsar saffron]

i kinda have to do it though

i need chilean steel

[fair horizon]

Lore accurate italy

[pulsar saffron]

and later ill need venezuelan oil

[obsidian nexus]

at this point ethiopias gonna naval invade italy

[fair horizon]

Right also id wait till you get war goals from your tree

[pulsar saffron]

and even one justify and declare puts me over 10% generated

[pulsar saffron]

thing about that is

[fair horizon]

Dont justify

[pulsar saffron]

i dont have trial of allegiance

default tree for me

[fair horizon]

Oh

[pulsar saffron]

fun

[fair horizon]

Ah well just invade

[native holly]

lmao

[pulsar saffron]

i tried that and stalemated

[native holly]

i mean...death is still a win for them in a way i suppose

[pulsar saffron]

i encircled their guys in the far north and then tricked a couple more into wandering into bolivia and becoming encircled but they didnt fall for it again

and they pump out new divs faster than i can kill them by luring them into bolivia killbox

possibyly my templates are bad

i have good supply

[fair horizon]

Keep them ftom invading in the first pla ce

[pulsar saffron]

who chile? im tryna invade them

[fair horizon]

Nah the allies

[pulsar saffron]

would i just need to take out guiana and then port guard

because it seems like theyd be focused on germany

but i wouldnt put it past them to send a million tommys to chile

[wary sparrow]

a clean axis victory for me

guess i just have to take out US but thats alot of work

[fair horizon]

Why did you give vichy fance its cores

[wary sparrow]

it looks good

[fair horizon]

It looks good when its yours

[wary sparrow]

nah

[pulsar saffron]

i had a vague notion of taking liberia and then portugal for a foothold in europe but if i am destined to war with the allies then thats a big fat no

[wary sparrow]

map painting is ugly

[pulsar saffron]

preach

[fair horizon]

What no anglo ancestry does

You aint got the gumption to empire build

[wary sparrow]

Chad good looking nation builder vs virgin empire map painter

our battle will be legendary

[fair horizon]

All will fall under the grand australian empire

[heavy vigil]

hi chat :D

[fair horizon]

Hi casey

[wary sparrow]

casey what is your opinion on this topic

[rapid furnace]

What path should i pick.

[pulsar saffron]

virgin focus tree precoded faction fan versus chad default tree custom faction enjoyer

[wary sparrow]

my eyes

[heavy vigil]

i like reasonable borders XD

but like bordergore makes your game unique

so if the bordergore is within like, game lore reason i like it

[pulsar saffron]

anyone here a communist china fan

[left jewel]

What is this

[heavy vigil]

its an awesome nation

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-obiwan-star-wars-serious-peace-gif-12342310

[wary sparrow]

and border gore

[pulsar saffron]

i made it a major

v proud of myself

hold on

[heavy vigil]

good job!! :D

[fair horizon]

Cant be border gore if theres no borders

[pulsar saffron]

whose that handsome fella on the bottom

[wary sparrow]

this guys the type to play till 1956 to do a world conquest as new zealand

[left jewel]

Mao was hella crackable when he wasnt fat and bald

[wary sparrow]

ayo

[fair horizon]

ITALIA NUMERO UNO

[fair horizon]

It was 62 and as asustralia

[heavy vigil]

yoooo

[pulsar saffron]

singlehandedly beat japan

[left jewel]

Italys actually pretty fun to play now that i think about it

[heavy vigil]

thats cool

[fair horizon]

WRONG

[pulsar saffron]

and then turned around and sacrificed ten million men helping kill germany

[sudden thistle]

were u savescumming

[sudden thistle]

ehhhhh

[pulsar saffron]

only got 7 percent war score

[heavy vigil]

new zealand is goatedd you get so much research and a formable

[pulsar saffron]

yes

[wary sparrow]

the glaze

[pulsar saffron]

and proud of it

not that much really

[heavy vigil]

its my favourite formable !!

/gen

[fair horizon]

Casey should i do a NZ world conquest?

[heavy vigil]

you should do what your heart desires

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-gif-2642067979719313440

[pulsar saffron]

i dont recall ever resetting a significant amount after the first six months

my puppets were madagascar thailand japan syria and albania

[wary sparrow]

i bet you guys believe idel ural is a good formable

[heavy vigil]

try new zealand once its fun

[heavy vigil]

no but polynesia goes hard tho

[left jewel]

My strategy for italy in ahistorical runs is:

• Kill ethopia, refuse any collabs
• Subjugate yugoslavia early on and create italian league
• kill greece by 1938
• kill turkyie by 1939
• wait for france to get into a war with Germany and push into them through the alps
• naval invade malta and form greater italy (i usually cba to form rome)

[fair horizon]

i planned on doing one once but idr why i didny

[wary sparrow]

did someone say greater italy?

my favorite nation?

[heavy vigil]

just play :D

[pulsar saffron]

spain and peru formed a dinky little faction so i was tryna set comintern up in the best position poissible for future ww3 by declaring on nonaligned minors so they would join spain faction and then capitulate when we took spain

[heavy vigil]

its like australia youll enjoy it

you can do navy

[left jewel]

Rome is far to tiring to make lol

[pulsar saffron]

although denmark and yugoslavia we just conquered

[heavy vigil]

the tricky part is beating australia

so youll get to find on the continent proper

[fair horizon]

Wym tricky

[wary sparrow]

peak italy

[fair horizon]

They're a pushover

[pulsar saffron]

vertical kurdistan

[heavy vigil]

new zealand army is weak XD

and you need it for steel

[fair horizon]

NZ goated

[heavy vigil]

try!!

[left jewel]

How is france alive?

[heavy vigil]

in sp btw

[pulsar saffron]

lads should i play congo as a 120 hour player

[heavy vigil]

you wanna do the navy focus before going free

its ships

[wary sparrow]

dont remember, this game was like a year ago

[left jewel]

Absolutely not

[restive sable]

rate the encirclement

[pulsar saffron]

unite africa type shit

[fair horizon]

Can you do commie polynesia?

[heavy vigil]

any ideology yeah

[fair horizon]

Based

[left jewel]

I end up partitioning France with Germany (north south divide ofc)

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[wary sparrow]

gross

[heavy vigil]

i need to try fascist sometime

ive never done the fascist path

[wary sparrow]

odd borders must be eliminated

[pulsar saffron]

ironman reich

[wary sparrow]

buddy really let the soviets live

[pulsar saffron]

turns out you can just not do barbarossa

i scared

britain was piss easy and america was far away

soviets are right there

[obsidian nexus]

historical italy ai in 1938 just lost to the ethiopians. wtf

[pulsar saffron]

japan was also far away

[wary sparrow]

happened to me before

[pulsar saffron]

ill deal with soviets eventually

[wary sparrow]

sent em into civil war

[obsidian nexus]

insane

[slim idol]

Did Japan actually give the ainus independence or am I tweaking

[pulsar saffron]

i did

[restive sable]

victory

[pulsar saffron]

i killed them

they wanted german indonesia

[wary sparrow]

a real man massacres the soviets

[pulsar saffron]

if i had a nickel for every time ive fought co prosperity in the jungles of indochina, stalemated, then just invaded the home islands and cap them, id have two nickels

[slim idol]

Oh yeah I think the decision to give them independence is only the commie path

[pulsar saffron]

next time

[fair horizon]

You mean new brisbane

[wary sparrow]

imagine the casualties

[pulsar saffron]

i invaded america from canada though thats gotta count for something

[wary sparrow]

supply is liek africa in there

[slim idol]

Africa has better

[pulsar saffron]

i full infrad every canadian state

very fun game so far

no regrets

except the trotsky mexico run

[wary sparrow]

A SPANISH EMPIRE WITH A PORTRAIT

get this man

[heavy vigil]

vendrip are you playing the goat of all nations yet

do you need like a monetary incentive

[fair horizon]

Which one

[heavy vigil]

aotearoa

[restive sable]

needle in a haystack

[fair horizon]

Oh no im not at home rn

[pulsar saffron]

whats in nz focus tree

[heavy vigil]

sadd

peak

[wary sparrow]

nothing but research bonuses

[heavy vigil]

nuh uh

you get a crazy plane design

[pulsar saffron]

gimme something tangible

[heavy vigil]

and can steal 2 uk ships

[heavy vigil]

you also get decisions for your formable

which can give islands

[pulsar saffron]

you cant hold a reseaerch bonus in your hand

me no likey

[heavy vigil]

your formable isnt locked behind any focus tho

[heavy vigil]

you do!

better gun

click ahead of time research, win game

[wary sparrow]

but you have to build navy

and then

i die

[pulsar saffron]

"better gun"?
sorry i only speak 1918 infantry equipment

[heavy vigil]

nah you get spawn ins

you just need like 1-2 ships

then steal stuff

[fair horizon]

You get 2 leanders :)

Good british designed cruiser

[restive sable]

holy shit

[heavy vigil]

im gonna try fascist new zealand, never done it before

[heavy vigil]

you should always look to get this as any nation btw

[pulsar saffron]

i really wanna succeed in trotsky mexico

but america seems impossible to deal with

[restive sable]

i dont usually pay attention to it in all honesty

probably really dumb

[fair horizon]

Casey does nz have a lot of ship names like australia does?

[heavy vigil]

never paid attention lol

[wary sparrow]

ngl my generals never level up much cause i try to steamroll all my enemies

[fair horizon]

How about admirals

[heavy vigil]

you get admirals

[fair horizon]

Do they get a good one like Australia's Harold Farncomb?

[heavy vigil]

you get admirals

[pulsar saffron]

i wish la resistance coups were better

i wish you could intervene in the civil wars easily

[fair horizon]

They better not get bad admirals

[heavy vigil]

no but you get robert row XD

a general

[fair horizon]

Who

[wary sparrow]

i wish literally the whole operations system was reworked to be interesting and not take decades to use

[heavy vigil]

hes got the naval invasion trait which i think is rare to start with

[pulsar saffron]

and you cant do shit cos ur stupid agents keep getting caught and you gotta bail them out

[fair horizon]

Oh that is good

[pulsar saffron]

interestingly, when you start an op to rescue an agent and a third agent gets caught during it, the op will free both of them

[wary sparrow]

one time as italy, when i took all the ethopian generals through the focus, pretty much all of em had the naval invader trait

kinda weird

[pulsar saffron]

should never have happened in the first place but at least theres that

[pulsar saffron]

like im tryna export the revolution here

[heavy vigil]

your starting generals and admirals are really bad XD

but like its fire

[pulsar saffron]

mao tse tung is now a major after selling chinas soul to win ww2 singlehandedly and has grander notions then tibet and mongolia

unless ncns has more foreign policy tree for mao

i dont have it unfortunately

[fair horizon]

Oml the admirals are so BADDDDDDDD

[heavy vigil]

i told you, you get admirals XD

[heavy vigil]

you have naval bombers to make up for it

[fair horizon]

NAVAL BOMBERS GO ON CARRIERS CASEY

[wary sparrow]

naval bombers infinitely better than doing anything naval related

[wary sparrow]

er no

they can go on land

[sudden thistle]

no they go in the air silly

[fair horizon]

Oml i cant even do 3 research facilities either because i only have 2 islands

[wary sparrow]

what about samoa

[heavy vigil]

XD

[heavy vigil]

you have 3

you have samoa

[pulsar saffron]

why no green air (i have a crisp 16 fighter (carrier))

[wary sparrow]

SAMOA

[pulsar saffron]

(chile has 18)

[wary sparrow]

when they adding american samoa smh

[fair horizon]

Samoa should be released so you can get the factories

[heavy vigil]

nahh

you need them

formable

[fair horizon]

Yeah just annex them later

[heavy vigil]

no IC for it

the eco tree fixes you tho

[fair horizon]

Gonna be a worse experience than ireland

[heavy vigil]

look at the eco tree

it gives like a million billion factories

[fair horizon]

Cant not in game

Im going to build a grand armada

[wary sparrow]

you have a focus tree at least

[heavy vigil]

and also you should puppet australia ofc

[wary sparrow]

we need the irish, luxembourg, and albania focus trees in next dlc

[fair horizon]

How many dockyards

I need minimum of 5

[pulsar saffron]

ireland mention

[heavy vigil]

uuuhhh

conquer

[fair horizon]

Default tree goes so hard you dont even know

[heavy vigil]

or just build them

you get 2 tho

[fair horizon]

Only 2 🥀

[heavy vigil]

THEY NERFED THE LEANDER??

it has armor 1 now

[fair horizon]

I thought they did too

[heavy vigil]

im in beta tho

[fair horizon]

Sydney on top

[heavy vigil]

maybe its a quiet nerf

[fair horizon]

Yeah in the beta

[misty fossil]

We need an australia focus tree

[wary sparrow]

what americans think the middle east is called

[misty fossil]

isr-

[heavy vigil]

highkey might cheat for fun so i can click the island decisions :D

[fair horizon]

TRUE SO TRUE

[heavy vigil]

we already have one, it should never be updated

fiji focus tree though

[restive sable]

truth

[wary sparrow]

can we first have all the nations that start out in 1936 pls

[misty fossil]

I dont have faith in pdx focus trees

[sudden thistle]

i need smth fun to play

im bored

[wary sparrow]

hoi4

[heavy vigil]

fiji

[misty fossil]

honestly is there even a aus focus mod

[restive sable]

every nation on game start should have a focus tree

[fair horizon]

Casey quit being mean to meeee

[misty fossil]

Go outside and talk to women

[heavy vigil]

XD <33

[dim sleet]

hello

[misty fossil]

Hello

[sudden thistle]

i live in the middle of nowhere

[dim sleet]

Im new here and Im bad at the game

[heavy vigil]

chris im trying a fascist path today

[wary sparrow]

isnt it literally the next dlc after the czech one?

[misty fossil]

hi new here im dad

[pulsar saffron]

play germany

[misty fossil]

I think but its gonna cost you a billion dollars

[pulsar saffron]

and play a couple minors

[dim sleet]

I love minors

[misty fossil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739835273969664053/1484272868744499331/image.gif

[wary sparrow]

heres a peace of candy mr mannerheim

[dim sleet]

The only major I like is Italy

well, "major"

[misty fossil]

pdx focus trees are mid if you think about it

certainly stand no chance against stuff like kr, kx or tfr

or eaw

[dim sleet]

I usually play road or kaiserreich

[pulsar saffron]

i might dabble in a mod

[misty fossil]

i think rt is more of a tech revamp mod than a total overhaul

[pulsar saffron]

i wanna do a few more runs first

[misty fossil]

i mean it has its own focus trees but

Idk

[heavy vigil]

also vendrip!!!!

remember to buy trains from the ai at the start of the game

[pulsar saffron]

is millenium dawn good

[misty fossil]

No

[heavy vigil]

1 civ for like 15

[fair horizon]

Eaw trees are imo not very good

[heavy vigil]

will last a long time and many projects

[fair horizon]

Too long

[misty fossil]

MD is the laggiest mod in the entire game

[fair horizon]

Fun mod just wants to tell you a story

[misty fossil]

dont play md at all

[misty fossil]

Try kaiser kattail path

[pulsar saffron]

are there any mods that are like the present day

[fair horizon]

Im playing hippogriffa

[pulsar saffron]

not tfr thats 2020

i mean 2025/6

[misty fossil]

The fire rises

nah

thats too recent

[pulsar saffron]

i seen a bunch of md timelapses that start in 2025 on youtube

[misty fossil]

“2020 isnt recent”

[pulsar saffron]

and they have like the axis of resistance and all that

[heavy vigil]

chat

do i civil war or no

[pulsar saffron]

it isnt tho

[misty fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/allosaurus-running-gif-10105628785300850739

[fair horizon]

No

[pulsar saffron]

history keeps happening

[heavy vigil]

my poor stab :(( but its meta

[fair horizon]

Civil war bad you lose manpower

[misty fossil]

no its recent

[heavy vigil]

i gain manpower

i just get rid of army

[misty fossil]

it was just 6 years bro

[pulsar saffron]

not if you disband first

[dim sleet]

I have a question

[pulsar saffron]

have some cav queued up

[heavy vigil]

dont need to

also waiting isnt bad

[misty fossil]

The game spawning in militia units on both sides:

[heavy vigil]

it doesnt

its manual civil war

[pulsar saffron]

hope you get lucky

[heavy vigil]

but ok ill keep my stab

RIP manpower

[pulsar saffron]

ive done multiple commie default brazil runs and its a gamble whether theyll have guys near the vps or not

[fair horizon]

Casey do an australia world conquest

[heavy vigil]

ewwww

bad nation

cant even get its max cores by itself

[fair horizon]

I completely forgot i have those as cores

Cause britian did a commie

[heavy vigil]

thats awesome

big core pop

[mystic nest]

australia rework when

[fair horizon]

Yeah a whole 1.4k 🙀

[heavy vigil]

1.7K

[mystic nest]

huge

[fair horizon]

They're ruining it soon

[mystic nest]

cant ruin mid

autralian focus tree is a travesty

[fair horizon]

Isnt it only 1.4 for christmas and like 40 for cocos?

[fair horizon]

You dont have to tell me that

[mystic nest]

🥀

[opal nymph]

Doesnt the Australian tree have the 70 day focus for 1 railroad

[heavy vigil]

cocos is 42 but in jan 37 it actually is 55 because low pop counts show up incorrectly (also happens when recruitable pops die sometimes)

christmas islands is 1.65K

[heavy vigil]

would you rather build it without focus?

[mystic nest]

hugeee

[opal nymph]

Isnt it faster to build the railroad than it is to complete the focus

[heavy vigil]

no

[opal nymph]

It's like a tier 2 railroad

[mystic nest]

well when other countries 70 day focuses somehow give them cores on an entire continent or a free twenty stability

[heavy vigil]

you dont have a lot of civs

[fair horizon]

A level 2 railroad mr squidward!

[heavy vigil]

and thats not fun :(

too bloated

philippines seems kinda fun but i dont have attention span to learn it rn

[mystic nest]

playing australia just feels like im getting wacked without being able to do much in return

not ot mention pre war isa snoozefest

[opal nymph]

I played historical Norway and that was an experience

[heavy vigil]

i dont play hist games so i usually find something fun in the area

[fair horizon]

Nah just go commie and forefeit your plane mio for fun

[mystic nest]

five hundred naval invasions

[mystic nest]

🥀

[opal nymph]

In reality, 5

[fair horizon]

Is malaysia fun?

[mystic nest]

no

[opal nymph]

Germany with new navy cant maintain supremacy to save its life

[heavy vigil]

it has the most techs of any generic country

[mystic nest]

its just a worse phillipines

[heavy vigil]

its good wdym

[mystic nest]

is it

[heavy vigil]

its like the better nation to form the formable thing

in indonesia

[mystic nest]

i tried it once and i did like nothing in the game

ah

[opal nymph]

Malaysia has a billion resources too

[heavy vigil]

its a strong generic country

like ofc its not the greatest but like

its good

[mystic nest]

no industry to take advantage of those resources

[heavy vigil]

for what it is

[heavy vigil]

you get trade

[mystic nest]

fair enuf

[heavy vigil]

build

[mystic nest]

true

but once japan joins in i cant really protect my waters

[heavy vigil]

just dont play histtt

do civil war to be free

[opal nymph]

I miss civ greeding and norway taught me how to civ greed again

[heavy vigil]

hist is boring

[mystic nest]

i love hist!!

[mystic nest]

civ greed norway????

??????

[heavy vigil]

skill issue

[mystic nest]

what like thirty civs

[heavy vigil]

you dockgreed

[opal nymph]

+50% civ construction speed

[mystic nest]

no building slots

[heavy vigil]

try denmark civgreed

its like great until you get attacked

[opal nymph]

I just built civs until late 38 and then swapped to mils

No manpower to field a large army, so it didn't matter

[mystic nest]

twenty civs and then the germans cap me in six hours

huge

[opal nymph]

A solid half of my divisions were the militia spawn ins

[heavy vigil]

you get like 50 by 41

[fair horizon]

Most Based thing you've ever said

[mystic nest]

if you survive to 41 as civ greed denmark then germany has bigger fish to fry

[opal nymph]

I should have made more dockyards

[mystic nest]

dockgreed brazil is the play

[opal nymph]

I had like 20?

[heavy vigil]

no thats about the time they did wargoals against me in sheeps

and then i lost but it was chill

[mystic nest]

wtf germany usually rolls over denmark in like 1939 or early 40 in hist

[heavy vigil]

i didnt go up conscription law

i think i did make like, a mil though

[mystic nest]

rookie mistake!?!?!?

[heavy vigil]

i was greedy

[opal nymph]

That's how I played exile Poland

[clear niche]

Real life or historical path in game?

[heavy vigil]

i milgreeded too hard

[opal nymph]

I would eventually lose if I didn't increase my manpower

[heavy vigil]

and also bought mech from ai

you can prob get more factories

[mystic nest]

mopst historical paths are the strongest paths for the country

most

[heavy vigil]

only majors

and even then, eh

fascist uk

communist usa

[mystic nest]

do u keep the empire as fascist uk?

[heavy vigil]

you annex all

[mystic nest]

ah

[heavy vigil]

strongest path in the video game

busted

[clear niche]

Can you core the earth with anarchist Spain?

[mystic nest]

monarchist brazil?

[heavy vigil]

yes

[heavy vigil]

far weaker

[sudden thistle]

yeah

[mystic nest]

zayum

[sudden thistle]

by now, but yeah

[heavy vigil]

fascist uk is actually broken

[mystic nest]

ill try fascist uk then

[mystic nest]

how does anarchist spains cores work i play without la resistance

[fair horizon]

i hate the fascist path for britian BECAUSE I ALREADY CONQUERED MY DOMINIONS WHY CANT I CORE THEM

WHY DO I NEED ONE ALIVE FOR IMPERIAL FEDERATION

[mystic nest]

🥀

[fair horizon]

Just a slight gripe

[sudden thistle]

i think i need more mods for this

[heavy vigil]

take your anger out on the EUA and france

[fair horizon]

Uma musume music

[sudden thistle]

no 🥀

[opal nymph]

The country with the strongest historical path would probably be the US imo

[heavy vigil]

nah

soviets

or germany

[mystic nest]

germany

[fair horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-gif-14141276552966470862

[heavy vigil]

usa has communist thats better anyway for buffs

[opal nymph]

Germany has decent alt hist

[heavy vigil]

or fascist with monroe faction to glorp up south america

[opal nymph]

I'm saying their historical is strongest

[mystic nest]

germany historical is broken as it should be

[opal nymph]

Eh, Germany and Soviets yeah

You're right

[fair horizon]

Historical germany >

[sudden thistle]

i found a roman empire mod

456 AD

[cold frigate]

what am i meant to do now

[heavy vigil]

did they have machine guns

[opal nymph]

Historical Germany is overpowered probably to help new players

[mystic nest]

whats the year

[opal nymph]

Or the ai

[mystic nest]

can you send a full screen screenshot mate

you cut out all the useful info

[sudden thistle]

i wonder

[heavy vigil]

go check in the mod!!

i use hoi4 mods for historical research /j

[mystic nest]

someone get the hitler speechbubble

[cold frigate]

?

[opal nymph]

Uh, where's the frontlines

[mystic nest]

almost like historical 1943 germany except dday hadnt fired by then

[cold frigate]

idk how to invade britian

[mystic nest]

you were meant to beat britain before late 1941 anyway

[opal nymph]

What about the eastern front

[mystic nest]

before america joins

[heavy vigil]

no manpower, no barb

crazy

[sudden thistle]

yeah yall got that

[mystic nest]

its in poland brother

the eastern front is gone

[cold frigate]

america hasnt joined

[mystic nest]

what is your conscription law

[mystic nest]

??

FOURTY THREE?

DEC?

[clear niche]

Axis Turkey?

[mystic nest]

wtf is japan doing?

[heavy vigil]

no barb

[mystic nest]

doesnt america join regardless of barb?

cuz japan declares?

[heavy vigil]

they need 100 tension

[scarlet pier]

whats current best navy?

[cold frigate]

what is barb

[heavy vigil]

and like

[mystic nest]

isnt it 80

[heavy vigil]

shared wars or whatever

[opal nymph]

Operation Barbarossa

[sudden thistle]

boat

[opal nymph]

Invasion of the Soviets

[mystic nest]

yeah why hasnt japans war done something yet

usually they get into the german war cuz they get into allies

[heavy vigil]

idk maybe they got bored and didnt wanna attack uk

[sudden thistle]

whats that

[mystic nest]

they only need 80 tension for that

[sudden thistle]

is that a dinner recipe?

[opal nymph]

The German High Command cooked with this operation

[sudden thistle]

so true

germany?

losing a world war?

impossible!

[mystic nest]

0 manpower 2 landings in france italy is gone and barb hasnt fired and britains alive

i would reload the save

[opal nymph]

All they have to do is put in a bit of spice and they will blow everyone's taste buds away

[mystic nest]

1943

[opal nymph]

kitchen bursts into flames

[mystic nest]

assuming this is historical ger and you didnt cancel mefo

thats not a great situation

[sudden thistle]

guys will I win

[mystic nest]

nah id win

[opal nymph]

My bets are on the railroad

Which is its own independent country

[sudden thistle]

they prob have better odds

[supple halo]

China is too difficult for me to handle. 🥺

[cold frigate]

i canceled mefo and yeah this is historical

[sudden thistle]

git gud

[mystic nest]

great qing will prevail

[supple halo]

Rude

[opal nymph]

Did you cancel it or do prioritize economic growth

[sudden thistle]

u will be fine dw

[mystic nest]

idk usually you should bef inished in europe by 42 otherwise america becomes really really annoying

[cold frigate]

cancel it

[opal nymph]

Oh no...

[cold frigate]

what does it do

[mystic nest]

no institute price controls

[opal nymph]

Oh noooo

[mystic nest]

did you institute price contols cheese

or just cancel it

???

bro when i say cancel mefo

i mean price control cheese

[cold frigate]

it keeps giving me pop ups so i just cancel it to get rid of it

[mystic nest]

not just straight up cancel it

[cold frigate]

in the descions

[mystic nest]

🥀 restart the game

[opal nymph]

He blew up the economy

[sudden thistle]

i have a massive navy

[opal nymph]

It is all gone

[sudden thistle]

52 ships

[opal nymph]

The pyramid scheme collapsed

[cold frigate]

should i not be?

[mystic nest]

never ever ever ever ever ever cancel mefo unless if youre doing price control 4 year germany

[cold frigate]

I ALWAYS DO IT]

[mystic nest]

wjat

[cold frigate]

caps

[mystic nest]

ALWAYS?

BRO

WATCH A GUIDE MAN

😭

[cold frigate]

I HATE THE POPUP

[mystic nest]

????

brother

[cold frigate]

SO I JUS GET RID OF IT

[mystic nest]

🥀

this guys breaking his germanys kneecaps before the start of ever war

[opal nymph]

Have you ever instituted price controls

[cold frigate]

no

[mystic nest]

i dont think he has

🥀

[opal nymph]

Done that 35 day focus

That lets you control mefo

[mystic nest]

institute price control mefo is stornger until 1943 i think

[opal nymph]

And then steal gold from other countries

[sudden thistle]

ok this nation is ass nvm

[mystic nest]

but by then you just win

so like anything after 43 doesnt matter

[mystic nest]

nah just cancel

if youre playing properly cancel

[opal nymph]

Wha-

[mystic nest]

bro

[opal nymph]

How

[mystic nest]

do you not know the price controlc ancel mefo

???

😭

[opal nymph]

No

[mystic nest]

if you cancel mefo then immediately take all the price control measures

[opal nymph]

I dont metagame often

[mystic nest]

u get rid of the debuff in 2 weeks

[opal nymph]

No shot

[mystic nest]

that lets you go economy of ocnquest

without mefo bills

yes

its great for sweeping and its banned in most mp rooms

i always do that as germany

[opal nymph]

So in 70 days, you win the eco game

[cold frigate]

wait this???

[mystic nest]

yeah

[opal nymph]

Nvm, 105

[mystic nest]

well you cancelled it i assume without doing the price control spam

so you just blew up your economy

[opal nymph]

So the moment you get price controls you stop the pyramid scheme and tell people to tighten their belts

[mystic nest]

yeah and the defbuff goes away instnatly

[opal nymph]

And your eco reverts to normal

[mystic nest]

and you start with -65% consumer goods

[opal nymph]

Interesting

[cold frigate]

i jus get rid of it instantly

[opal nymph]

Wait excuse me

[mystic nest]

better than normal economy of conq starts with -65%

[opal nymph]

-65%?!

[cold frigate]

its the first thing i do

[mystic nest]

yes

[mystic nest]

brothers playing peg

without peg

🥀

[cold frigate]

whats peg

[opal nymph]

Do you know the point of mefo irl

[cold frigate]

no

[mystic nest]

have you ever looked to the left of the 4 year plan

[cold frigate]

i dont study economics

[opal nymph]

Think of it as government loans to rearm

And you keep printing money to rearm

[mystic nest]

anyway never cancel mefo before price controls it blows everything up

[opal nymph]

If you stop it, you have to pay off the loans and blow up your economy

[cold frigate]

do u mean military or prioeitize economic growth

[mystic nest]

you can do it as a joke to larp or nerf yourself i did a cancel mefo no recovering germany

great depression germany sim

[opal nymph]

Prioritize Economic Growth is where you blow up your economy and fix it

[mystic nest]

prioritise economic growth

[opal nymph]

You just blow up your economy

[mystic nest]

is where you cancel mefo

[sudden thistle]

pyramid scheme more or less?

[mystic nest]

but then it fixes it

[mystic nest]

yuh

[opal nymph]

Basically yes

[sudden thistle]

u gotta PEG

🔥

[mystic nest]

yeah

but dont go peg anyway

four year plan is just stronger

[sudden thistle]

wha

[sudden thistle]

oh 100%

[opal nymph]

Prioritize Economic Growth is my go to for alt hist germany

[sudden thistle]

but most new players dont know how mefo works

[mystic nest]

bro it literally puts recoverign economy on you

i swear people cant read

😭

and see the 5 trillion lines of debuffs

[cold frigate]

is it bad that i play on civilian and with max strengthen germany and im still ass

[opal nymph]

Oh no, not like i blew up my country already

Might as well blow up the economy as well

[sudden thistle]

yeah

[mystic nest]

a little bit yeah but just watch a guide

[sudden thistle]

but they dont have the time bomb of a unregulated MEFO

[cold frigate]

i watched a guide on battles

[mystic nest]

thats not enough

macro is more important than micro

[opal nymph]

How to play Germany.

Do your industry focuses
Do anshluss when you can
Do military focuses and political focuses
???
Win

[mystic nest]

no point knowing how to win battles if your army gets rolled cuz your economy is dead

give zhukov a buncha farmers with sticks and hed still get rolled

[cold frigate]

What’s a good guide

[mystic nest]

bittersteels germany guide is simple

[opal nymph]

Bitt3rsteel I think has a good one

[mystic nest]

he does a few things that arent optimal

but it doesnt matter

since its singleplayer

[cold frigate]

What if I don’t like bittersweet

[mystic nest]

then just search up germany guide hoi4

[opal nymph]

You watch him anyways

[mystic nest]

and choose a semi recent one with a decent amount of views

[cold frigate]

The flavor makes me gag

[opal nymph]

Flavor?

[clear niche]

Chatgpt

[cold frigate]

Yeah

[opal nymph]

Accent?

[mystic nest]

i really should play a chatgpt soviets game

[opal nymph]

I dont understand what you mean by flavor

[mystic nest]

that would be hilarious

[opal nymph]

You cant taste people through a screen

[cold frigate]

I was making a joke about how bittersteel sounds like bittersweet you fool

[mystic nest]

erm gpt when should i start taking the purge focuses??

[safe wing]

so as Kodha Japan in singleplayer should I do this attack order China -> USSR -> Western Powers?

[opal nymph]

I thought you typoed

[mystic nest]

destroy the kodoha or kdoha route

[safe wing]

Kodha

[mystic nest]

ah ive never played that

but id assume its just china first

[opal nymph]

Or autocorrect got you

[mystic nest]

as always

[safe wing]

always is

[mystic nest]

yeah

always wipe china

[sudden thistle]

last time i tried it it worked fine

[mystic nest]

honestly thers not much to gain from russia which is why i didnt like that route

you get like

vladivostok and 3 mils

[cold frigate]

Wow. Just wow. I sat here expecting at least the smallest crumb of humor and instead you delivered whatever that was supposed to be. Not a laugh, not a smile, not even that polite nose exhale people do when something is mildly amusing. My face remained completely motionless the entire time like I had just read the nutritional label on a cereal box. I actually paused for a second because I thought maybe the joke had not loaded yet, but no. That was the whole thing. I refuse to believe a real human being looked at that and thought “yes, this is ready for public consumption.”
I tried to give it a chance. I really did. I reread it three times thinking maybe there was some hidden comedic genius that my brain had simply missed the first time. Nothing. The more I looked at it the worse it became. At this point I am convinced the joke was not written but assembled by randomly pulling words out of a hat. Somewhere out there a clown just lost their job because you single handedly lowered the global standard for humor.
You know when people say something is painfully unfunny as a figure of speech. This is not that. This is a scientific phenomenon. If researchers studied the effects of that joke they would probably discover a new emotion that sits somewhere between confusion and secondhand embarrassment. I felt my brain actively trying to escape my skull just to avoid processing it. That level of disappointment should honestly be documented for future generations.
I want you to understand the effort I put into trying to find the joke funny. I leaned back in my chair. I squinted slightly like maybe the angle of my eyes would reveal something clever. I even looked away and came back to it later just in case my mood was the problem. Still nothing. My reaction remained the same blank expression someone has when they accidentally open the wrong tab on their browser.
. Just seeing this ruined my entire life.

[mystic nest]

from the entirety of siberia

fire

[cold frigate]

Why is nobody talking

[clear niche]

You ok?

[restive sable]

the ai in this game really is some bullshit

[cold frigate]

Yea why?

[clear niche]

Just checking

[restive sable]

geniunely had to carry germany's ass because they were getting invaded by the french, czechs and soviets all at once

[mystic nest]

its so ass that it makes me sad sometimes

[restive sable]

push all three of them back for germany

and germany decides the best strategic move is to declare war

[cold frigate]

Pray, for what reason dost thou subject me to such relentless torment?

[restive sable]

great

[mystic nest]

first thing to do as a german ally is to throw some 18w shitter units into northern france

cuz they will get d-dayed

[restive sable]

france left the entire front open

france was unironically the easiest of the three to beat

[mystic nest]

rah france number one

[mystic nest]

yeah well

its basically hardcoded

to just get wiped

disjointed government

we love -30% surrender limit

[restive sable]

im aware but even with that the german ai struggled to push in

italy was somehow doing better

[mystic nest]

thats pretty crazy even my ai germanies usually cap france in like a few weeks

im considering playing sheeps mod now

but before i do that i need to relearn the game from scratch

since the mod plays like its trying to copy a sweaty ass mp player

what do you mean i cant spam mediums anymore because they brought heavy td divs??

terrible

[restive sable]

what a beauty

it's been a minute since i've done an austria-hungary run

https://tenor.com/view/austria-hungary-austria-hungary-gif-25873879

[sudden thistle]

lemme do one for u in GWR

trust

[restive sable]

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-gif-9431479052148052111

gwr leaves a horrible taste in my mouth

their server especially is something else

[mystic nest]

i want a good star wars mod

come on

[restive sable]

there is one

operation valachord

[mystic nest]

ill take a look

i was interested in tno until like

i realised how diabolically boring it is to buildup in that game

tno wouldve been better as a book

[sudden thistle]

there is no other ww1 mod

so i need to make do with what I have

[restive sable]

i hate the ui

if you wanna play tno just play reqium instead

it's just the better version of tno

[restive sable]

unfortunately

[supple halo]

[woven gate]

things i never see

i genuinely never deploy units when they're trained unless i'm gonna be at peace for a long ass time

[supple halo]

The front lines ARE their training.

[woven gate]

nah i fully train them once they're out

in case i need them i don't have to deploy them and can just rush them to the front

[supple halo]

My unorganized division at 9% strength getting sent to stop the 45 fully equipped British marine division:

[smoky prairie]

Was having trouble pushing in New Guinea. The lack of supplies and infrastructure was really making it difficult, especially with the AI doomstacking the provinces. I ended up capturing all the ports via naval invasions, thus effectively turning the whole Island into one giant Encirclement:

[fair horizon]

I do because i cant afford bad troops to take more losses because of lower stats

My navy makes up for it

[gilded wasp]

Tfw you encircle 95% of the entire Greek army

I mean hey

All my guys are STARVING

but hey

Big win

[heavy vigil]

nooooo japan went non aligned now i cant do the path

[dusky burrow]

I mean

that's what you're supposed to do

[wraith mauve]

What mod has the beta America content except tfr

[heavy vigil]

also wow its late

i need to sleep

[dusky burrow]

good night casey

[wraith mauve]

Any Awenser

[heavy vigil]

good night liv !! ur rlly cool and awesome !!

[opal nymph]

Best america content?

Kaiserreich can be fun

[dusky burrow]

thanks casey, you too!

[opal nymph]

Kaiserredux better for you probably

There is also that one USA Rework mod

[wraith mauve]

Ok

I’ll try kaiserreich

[north merlin]

how do i make britain go facist, there isn't an option in decisions to spread more facist

facism

[hexed silo]

im going to try to get a soviet non-aggression pact as latvia

[restive sable]

personal opinion kaiserredux is way better

when it comes to american content

[wraith mauve]

Ok I’ll do that instead

I have never done laserdisc b4

Kaiserdux

[atomic grove]

this is genuinely pissing me off

[latent estuary]

Invade Romania for easy land access

[atomic grove]

they are my puppets

[clear niche]

Intermarium?

[latent estuary]

Oh

[atomic grove]

this is the situation im in

oh and the usa and india are also against me

im fighting literal infinite industry and infinite manpower at the same time

[clear niche]

Nevermind

[atomic grove]

the internationale and entente are at war though

[mystic nest]

cooked

you have 300k mp left

idk what conscription law you're on

[atomic grove]

no its fine

im fine with that

because

i cant train more divs

im in kaiserreich

😭

[mystic nest]

oh i havent played that mod before

[atomic grove]

if u train more divs than what you're allowed to have