hoi4-general

[dusky burrow]

this is non-aligned i assume

[upbeat tundra]

its the monarchist britan

[vernal arrow]

How do i make capital ships

i really got no idea

[sudden thistle]

I think Mosley is anti German

[sudden thistle]

Oh yeah they do that

They have a focus to join axis

[upbeat tundra]

this was the most average chinese game

[winged field]

as in you dont know what includes capital ships?

[sudden thistle]

But they should be called Great Britain?

[vernal arrow]

Nope

[sudden thistle]

Unless they didn’t flip

[severe lion]

i absolutely owerpower their navies even tho mine isnt big kinda like rwanda's army in the 2000's

[winged field]

BB's BC's HC's and carriers

[winged field]

tho carriers are kinda different thing

in a sense

[vernal arrow]

fr

[sudden thistle]

Road to 56?

[vernal arrow]

and just make it into one?

[severe lion]

my enemies have a bigger but weaker navy

[vernal arrow]

all those ships

[upbeat tundra]

omg i hate india

[sudden thistle]

Yeah idk that mod is weird

[upbeat tundra]

how did they not defend that

[severe lion]

can mods pls add a blackbeard writing sticker

[finite plume]

BHUTAN POWER 🗣️ 🇧🇹 🇧🇹 🇧🇹 🇧🇹 🇧🇹

[upbeat tundra]

YO WHAT

[sudden thistle]

So it’s gif

[dusky burrow]

what even ahppened here

[eternal aspen]

Seems ez

[severe lion]

stickers r bette

[upbeat tundra]

they got their cheecks clapped by bhutan so now i cant cap china

[winged field]

for 1 taskforce around 4 carriers + 4-8 capitals + like 3-4 schreening ships like CL's or DD per one capital ship

[severe lion]

can anyone give a improved sub template

[eternal aspen]

1939 chasis?

Or is this the 1940's one

[severe lion]

1940

[eternal aspen]

Does it take chrome?

[severe lion]

chrome?

[eternal aspen]

Chromium

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chrome-google

[eternal aspen]

Circle metal

[upbeat tundra]

ah yes germany focuses on denmark instead of poland

[severe lion]

yes

[upbeat tundra]

its 1941

[severe lion]

i was just checking

[eternal aspen]

Don't use it unless youre turkey or ussr

Use the 1936 chassis with 1939 parts

Bc there is no 1940, iirc it was 1942

[severe lion]

i lied,its only 1939 and no chrome

wait

socrates knows

[fathom shard]

pretty kewl

[severe lion]

thats why he is typing

[fathom shard]

this is as czechoslovakia btw

[eternal aspen]

Use that chassis, best torpedo tube in all slots, snorkel if possible, and engine 3's

[severe lion]

3 month in btw

[severe lion]

torpedo spam is peak

[eternal aspen]

Its meta for subs

Because they deal more damage, and snorkel reduces visibility

[severe lion]

my friend with 5k hrs said also for cruisers

[upbeat tundra]

the three big guys

cantilly accord going at it against the balkan pact

[eternal aspen]

Cruisers are iffy, they are good but a single BB can do the same as like, 5 CL

[severe lion]

what battery

slot

do i use it

i havent made subs ever

[eternal aspen]

Front, back, and the torpedo slot for them

[fathom shard]

thank you germany

i can now invade vichy france

[severe lion]

i mean battery slot

[upbeat tundra]

i love qing powerscaling

[eternal aspen]

Can you send screenshot?

[upbeat tundra]

do this to germany when u can

[severe lion]

mb idk how but i didint notice i ended up on cruiser design

[upbeat tundra]

wait guys who wants to try and form turan today

[eternal aspen]

Ah, might be why lmao

[severe lion]

good?

hdw is the only 1 that buffs most atttacks

specifically trop

torp

[sudden thistle]

ur asking why

a torpedo

buffs attack

[severe lion]

no?

[sudden thistle]

then what

[severe lion]

i didnt ask anything

i aksed for help with temp

i only asked if its good

[sudden thistle]

"how is the only 1 that buffs most atttacks"
"specifically trop"

[severe lion]

torp

i said hdw

the company

[eternal aspen]

Yea that should be good

[sudden thistle]

im ending it all live 🥀

only valid reaction

[eternal aspen]

Zamn

[icy crescent]

This was a waiting game.
Play Denmark.
Fascist Demagogue.
Join Axis, but don't go into any war.
Build some guns, then fighters and bombers
Nuke Research into 1944.
Attack next Ikea
Profit

[severe lion]

caused 2.9m btw

[eternal aspen]

Im going ti try go back to bed, my neighbor is prolly gonna go missing if his music dont get turned down

[severe lion]

i will go missing with him

[fathom shard]

this looks just a BIT cursed

[upbeat tundra]

what visual mod

[severe lion]

puppet france

[severe lion]

fps map

does the uk just spam subs or what

ive killed so many ive lost count

[cursive oxide]

? why

[fathom shard]

satisfying puppet and country names, realistic & immersive coats of arms, immersive flags, uncensored event pictures, uncensored focus tree icons, modifier icons, fps map

[fathom shard]

fascist states don't join democratic factions

[upbeat tundra]

uncensored?

[fathom shard]

yes

[cursive oxide]

i now like why the fascist

[upbeat tundra]

are focus tree icons cencored?

[ember vine]

Hoi4 loves to remind me how much I hate it

[fathom shard]

no

[ember vine]

Stupid piece of shit game

[fathom shard]

well

the vanilla ones for germany are

[severe lion]

why is it so ⬛

[upbeat tundra]

ahh right

the classic budhist symbol of censorship and despair

[ember vine]

Why did Fascist Iran declare war on my Kurdistan puppet

That's so stupid

[fathom shard]

because everyone hates kurdistan

[upbeat tundra]

because it was in search of cheese kurds

[severe lion]

i wanna bring politics but not get banned so bad

damn it

[upbeat tundra]

same reason whg people invade tartarstan, to get tartar sauce

[severe lion]

or muted

[ember vine]

Iran has no focus to declare war on kurdistan then why

[severe lion]

as a joke btw

[severe lion]

they wanna reform the kurturtursian empire

or they are a secret spy from the us tryna see howd u react

wtf

open front

[quartz valley]

what is the best div against japan

[low temple]

ok the war isnt actually that bad

[upbeat tundra]

kurdistartarafghanikazakhkyrgyzpakitajikiturkmeniuzbekistan

the -stan fedoration

[severe lion]

i think i killed them all now they have no line filler

[low temple]

lucky for me the soviet divisions are hot trash

[upbeat tundra]

2 rifles per 50 men

[severe lion]

italy killed 13 soviets 🤯

most useful italian kingdom ever

[keen pebble]

do alliances ever go away? im surrounded by two mega factions

[uncut pollen]

And everyone is holding one single bullet

[ember vine]

Can I slaughter those pesky iraqis and win?

[upbeat tundra]

wrong, its 1/2 a musket ball and a small rock

[ember vine]

Their stupid division spam they can shove it up their ass

[dusky burrow]

the fact that they have even some supply is surprising

unfortunately you can do nothing

[ember vine]

I hate Iraq

[low temple]

Ironically enough italy is carrying the most in this war

[severe lion]

how have i not lost a ship since 1940

[ember vine]

Iraq is nothing but a pain in the ass

And Iran as well

[upbeat tundra]

ngl the soviest would do better with muskets bc muskets can fire basically anything

[ember vine]

I didnt even wanna touch them

Oh thank God Russia attacked them

[severe lion]

wow

[upbeat tundra]

jokes on you russia is getting invaded by them

[upbeat tundra]

see? 3 musket balls and 1 rifle per division

[tardy current]

on singleplayer its good

[severe lion]

last time i played multiplayer the danish baltics were a thing

less historical than unhistorical

[silk fern]

what does mist or beast have to do with this

[severe lion]

btw there was once empire of liechtenstein (extended rt56

[fathom shard]

he plays hoi4

[severe lion]

my cavalry is better artillery than soviet artillery

[safe wing]

I deliberatly failed Ethopia so I can get the Pope back faster

[severe lion]

am i crazy for building the ReichsMarine

custom name

[upbeat tundra]

i have a suspicion you couldnt take ethiopia and used this as an excuse

https://klipy.com/gifs/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-1

[safe wing]

No its faster to get the Pope back without Ethopia

also Ethopia is usless to hold in hoi4

[dusky burrow]

attritioning rip

[upbeat tundra]

nahh u get like 5 more slolts

[heavy vigil]

i love ethiopia

[safe wing]

but I get the Pope back faster so?

[sudden thistle]

yummers

[rocky basin]

everyone signed white peace with japan as communist china, do i proceed to reunite china with militias or do i go for regular infantry with artillery, aa, etc. my entire army is militia right now

[severe lion]

holy straight,gorgeous,buff charming

[upbeat tundra]

they tried invading me in 1938 but forgot the qing focuses are crack

[severe lion]

i have a fascist friend btw

genuinely fascist

and he said hitler made many mistakes but saved palestine?

[upbeat tundra]

i think thats just called a neo nazi

[fathom shard]

that's called being corny

[severe lion]

btw he turned a guy with no knowledge of history that thought iran would nuke montenegro into a nazi

[silk fern]

Was Hitler woke?

[severe lion]

ikr

[severe lion]

possibly

[safe wing]

nah he is mentally stupid

[fathom shard]

convert him to communism so @viscid stirrup would be satisfied

[severe lion]

i mean yes jew soldiers are commiting war crimes TODAY but stupid take

[upbeat tundra]

every hoi4 player either hates democracy or is mentally insane after playing democracies for 1,000 hours to change

[severe lion]

or is a communist femboy

[fathom shard]

i hate democracies ||ingame||

[upbeat tundra]

yeah i mean that

[safe wing]

that reminds me I still have to bully him again

[upbeat tundra]

or a neo nazi

[tiny iris]

Hello, guys.
It's me, Solenopsis.

Help.

[fathom shard]

LOL

[tiny iris]

Help me.

I spend hours looking at maps.

Help.

Help.

Someone, help me.

[fathom shard]

communist femboy vs neo nazi cornball

[upbeat tundra]

movable object vs stoppable force

[severe lion]

or a eastern european communism glazer (never knew what their gramps whent trough in communism)

[safe wing]

mutally assured destruction

[fathom shard]

crackable vs uncrackable

[dusky burrow]

you can add more militias to template btw

and you should

[upbeat tundra]

japan glazers not knowing the typa stuff they pulled in ww2

[dusky burrow]

you might also need a few paratroopers at this rate

[safe wing]

reminds of that teenage Polish one who I bullied off the server

[fathom shard]

do you mean statilinist titoism?

[severe lion]

i heard they twisted dead bodies into human shields

[upbeat tundra]

nanjing

[severe lion]

hard to tell

[fathom shard]

where's the serb nationalist commie that supports tito and stalin

[rocky basin]

so 18 width?

[upbeat tundra]

some japan glazer told me japan shouldnt have been nuked or invaded

[dusky burrow]

how about 32-width

[upbeat tundra]

they legit said japan got taken advantage of by the world

[dusky burrow]

they live in china, right?

[rocky basin]

really?

[severe lion]

tito wasnt a bad leader as in strengthening the army to be fair tho

[upbeat tundra]

no idea

[dusky burrow]

yes

[fathom shard]

yeah you could say the same about hitler

[severe lion]

at one point we were stronger than china

[fathom shard]

doesnt make him good

[severe lion]

thats my point

[safe wing]

the one I'm talking about is Polish who always had a anime girl or character pfp

[upbeat tundra]

same with hirohito

[severe lion]

tho yugoslovenes were rlly strong for some reason

[upbeat tundra]

same with kim

[fathom shard]

hirohito didn't do shit lmao

[rocky basin]

and do i need arti or something else?

[upbeat tundra]

well his military council

i forgot his name

tojo or something

[severe lion]

he made people commit suicide thinking they are heroes

tuff

[fathom shard]

hideki tojo

[fathom shard]

real

[dusky burrow]

nononono

[upbeat tundra]

i just find it ironic that the stuff japan pulled was so bad a german nazi literally went chill

[dusky burrow]

pure infantry templates will hold themselves up

[severe lion]

croats were gay tho

milosovic was also a ass leader

all he knew was killing civs

[upbeat tundra]

nooo not the civ factories

[woeful knoll]

Germany killed the banker class japan didnt

Thats why ones good and ones bad

[fathom shard]

i still find it pretty hilarious hitler the genocidal leader was vegan

[upbeat tundra]

and tried to make meat eating guests feel disgusted about themselves for eating meat

[severe lion]

wait WHAT

[upbeat tundra]

u didnt know he was vegan?

[safe wing]

I knew this

[severe lion]

dont kill animals,people deserve it more

[safe wing]

most vegans are insane

[severe lion]

forgot to reply

holy ban incoming

[upbeat tundra]

didnt he pardon one jewish doctor that helped him out?

[fathom shard]

not insane but indoctrinated

[severe lion]

did he know he was jewish

[upbeat tundra]

he did

it was hitlers family doctor

[severe lion]

probably related

[fathom shard]

imagine stunting your growth just so you feel better about not eating animals

[severe lion]

oh

[upbeat tundra]

the doctor didnt charge hitler for his care of his mother before she died

[severe lion]

i think thats why he had a micro

[quartz valley]

why when i play germany japan get destroy against china and when i play comu china japan is at his prime

[fathom shard]

he was just a manlet

[woeful knoll]

AI does a dice roll every new start to see who will win

Its bad luck

[upbeat tundra]

once this vegan tourist went into the chinese resturant i was in

[severe lion]

a femboy

[upbeat tundra]

if u know about chinese cuisine its like 90 percent meat or partially meat dishes

[fathom shard]

we cannot post pictures of hitler here right

[eternal aspen]

For the record, these typically dont reduce FPS but rather increase it

[woeful knoll]

Vegans are all upper class white people that are ever women or have low testosterone

[fathom shard]

i have one specific picture of hitler that reminds me of that LOL

[severe lion]

i know

[upbeat tundra]

remember his last name couldve been adolf shicklegruber or adolf heidler

[eternal aspen]

Mb other way around

They reduce not increase

[severe lion]

show me

[fathom shard]

dms

[eternal aspen]

Because it overlays the default map

[upbeat tundra]

they tried protesting the stuff and then got thrown out by literally everyone

[severe lion]

still looks better imo

cleaner

the terrain hurts my eyes like that

[fair horizon]

Hello chat

[upbeat tundra]

guys who wants to hop on hearts of iron

[fathom shard]

if you're vegan and fat you're genuinely unsaveable

how do you become overweight with a vegan diet

veganism is already starving

[quartz valley]

mhh

[severe lion]

i only know 1 natty vegan with a good build

[upbeat tundra]

drinking olive and seed oils

[fathom shard]

olive oil isn't that bad

[severe lion]

all the russians i know are atheist too

just to rub it in

[upbeat tundra]

guys who tryna play hoi1

[fathom shard]

diet is 90% supplements and gym powder

[severe lion]

natty

[upbeat tundra]

"DANGIT I HAVENT HAD MY NUTRIENT PASTE YET"

[fathom shard]

protein/creatine powder is natty

[severe lion]

what about Methamphetamine

[upbeat tundra]

german ww2 strats

[fathom shard]

thats natty aswell

according to clavicular

[quartz valley]

bruh

[severe lion]

u mean the guy that caused 7 suicide cases confirmed more unconfirmed

[rich finch]

help my game is broken

[fathom shard]

vegan bros taking their vegan meth infused panzerschokolade and supplements just to survive

[fathom shard]

yes

[severe lion]

my

[fathom shard]

the guy that mag dumped a crocodile

[upbeat tundra]

one of the best food experiences is having a vegan watch in horror as you down a steak while playing hoi4

[severe lion]

real

[severe lion]

casey pin this

[rich finch]

?????

[upbeat tundra]

someone forgot to turn off mods

[fathom shard]

she would just mute us for off topic

[severe lion]

but we didnt turn @hollow fossil off

[fathom shard]

what a profile picture

[upbeat tundra]

now its not offtopic

[fathom shard]

swag

@viscid lotus Off in hoi4

[mystic nest]

@eternal aspen you down to continue?

[severe lion]

i just lost 1604 days of basic heavy ship production

i wont live to see tomorrow

[mystic nest]

did you have like one dockyard on it

[torn rampart]

guys I defeated italy as germany, should i puppet or annex

[severe lion]

y.e.e.e.s

[prisma saddle]

guy i am a big deutsh

[mystic nest]

all good them basic heavy shiups arent great

[severe lion]

thats the joke

i have the strongest navy

[mystic nest]

ah aight

[fathom shard]

annex

[severe lion]

its not big thp

[patent thistle]

ima do another ethiopia meme navy run lol

[upbeat tundra]

change ur officer corps twin

[mystic nest]

theres a point in the game where you just give up on handling the notifs

[upbeat tundra]

unmodified officer corps tho

[mystic nest]

sack

[fathom shard]

1938

is the brekaing point

[mystic nest]

lmao for me its like 43 or 44 depending on my industry

[prisma saddle]

what?

[mystic nest]

if its big enough where im limited by materials rather than industry then i give up handling it

[upbeat tundra]

modify ur officer corrrrrps

[fathom shard]

the only notifs i interact with is resources and mils

and mios

aaand research

[prisma saddle]

wdym

[wet summit]

germany 2040, seems accurate

[upbeat burrow]

Does Autarky now count the sum of Germany and its subjects as opposed to the individual counts?

[dusky burrow]

anarcho-salafism

[prisma steppe]

why is britains navy so fukcing weak

[upbeat tundra]

aragon global defence

[upbeat burrow]

In what world is Britains navy weak?

[cold frigate]

how do i chnage my front line after ive already set it

like to a different country

[brittle cypress]

Make a new frontline

delete the old one

[cold frigate]

how do i delet

[brittle cypress]

Uh

In the same menu you make the frontline

To the right

There’s a trash can button

[heavy vigil]

hiii marcus

[brittle cypress]

👋

[woven gate]

you can industrymaxx as new zealand

[misty fossil]

67 mils

[heavy vigil]

how are youuu

[woeful knoll]

Is this still saveable?

[heavy vigil]

no

[wary sparrow]

appeasement only run

[heavy vigil]

you lost budapest

[dusk dock]

i have an idea

[crude grotto]

If I accept this will otto stay in power or no?

[wary sparrow]

just save scum and see

[crude grotto]

Iron man

Im no chud

[cyan prairie]

reaction?

[lucid ridge]

@mild vapor hey bice not cool force starting a game

[woeful knoll]

How do i get adophus

[wary sparrow]

you know its been a long war when china is on all adults serve

its 1947 btw

[mild vapor]

Why are you still playing 😭

[wary sparrow]

allies aint doing anything to japan

[mild vapor]

and why is Ethopia free

[wary sparrow]

its fun

[mild vapor]

What conscription law is Japan on

[wary sparrow]

i was playing as appeasement only germnay

[wary sparrow]

service by requirement

if hoi4 had civilian deaths china would be a ghost town in this world

[mild vapor]

China had 500 million people in 1940

[wary sparrow]

its a hyperbole

[mild vapor]

Sorry I have dumbassphobia

What does appeasement only Germany do

[wary sparrow]

2nd times the charm

[woeful knoll]

It makes 0 sense why belgica and byzantian empire cant form rome

like bro they r literally roman empire states

if prussia can form germany so can byzantine for rome

[molten forge]

Any advice for killing turkey as Greece?

[woeful knoll]

When

I just did it

[mild vapor]

vanilla?

[woeful knoll]

whn u fighting them?

[molten forge]

Byzantine

[woeful knoll]

Ok

[molten forge]

Yea vanilla

[woeful knoll]

Make a fall back line at the first city in the north

not alexandropolis

[mild vapor]

Fall back, let them attack, encircle, repeat and random naval invasions to draw troops away from the front line

[woeful knoll]

the other one

then naval invade with ur mountineers to alexandropolis

repeat until they have no divs

[molten forge]

So just be slow about it alright

[woeful knoll]

then just invade thru constantinople

[mild vapor]

Slow and steady wins the race

[molten forge]

Alright I will try

[mild vapor]

goodluck !

[molten forge]

Also am I the only one who does eco in Greece first?

[mild vapor]

I have never played Greece

[molten forge]

It has some very ass economy modifiers

[woeful knoll]

probaly cuz the only one who plays greeve

genuinely the worst focus tree in hoi4

[molten forge]

Better than untangling turkey

[woeful knoll]

Turkey is the original focus slop

Since turkey eu4 and hoi4 were ruined by the bubble trees

[green magnet]

pony

[mild vapor]

A majority of the vanilla focus tress are not very enjoyable

[molten forge]

Ngl I got so bored I wanted to do Lithuania (don't got dcl for Lithuania unique focus tree) and the moment I justified on Latvia straight British independence

[woeful knoll]

The new ones are

the old ones are just likea

they literally have no content past 1939

[molten forge]

Ngl without dlcs you're kinda forced to do hist

[green magnet]

i always loved the default template that most nations had

straight foward and simple

[mild vapor]

I'm sorry for you

[woeful knoll]

no dude

just no

[mild vapor]

That might be the worst take of the day

[molten forge]

Ngl Poland is the exact case of gotta go hist

[woeful knoll]

what

if you dont have the dlc

[molten forge]

The fascist path has 3 focuses, same with commie

[woeful knoll]

get the dlc bro

[molten forge]

I will need to lowk

[mild vapor]

I find historical to be more enjoyable in most cases anyway

[molten forge]

Makes sense but I ain't gonna play hist Germany 20 times

[barren coyote]

Whaaat italy actually seized cairo???

[woeful knoll]

I love it when the focus tree has 10 focuses for flipping ideoligies then 3 focuses of content

[woeful knoll]

WTF are you playing\

[molten forge]

You in game rn?

[woeful knoll]

yea

[molten forge]

Chinese warlords even without dlc kinda fun

[barren coyote]

Um.....

Fascist afghanistasn road to 56

I asked ChatGPT what country to play ok

[molten forge]

It should've said communist dlcless Poland

[cold frigate]

what do i do now

[mild vapor]

Why do you have so many different divison templates on the front lines

[woeful knoll]

Dude

Just make 4 templates

[barren coyote]

How

[mild vapor]

I can not believe people like this are real

[cold frigate]

whats a template

[molten forge]

I have a friend who lost as Italy against another friend who played Ethiopia so

[woeful knoll]

You clearly know

as you made 20 of them

[cold frigate]

these guys?

[cold frigate]

i just spammed troops idk

[mild vapor]

thats like a .05/10 for ragebait

just going to block

[woeful knoll]

10 armies in 1 field marshal?

[mild vapor]

Overstack penalty maxxing

[cold frigate]

wtf is a field marshal???

i got the game today

[woeful knoll]

Watch a tutorial vid bro

[molten forge]

Lowk reminds me of this one time I played Guangxi clique

Ended up just asking to see how many troops max

[barren coyote]

I guess that's one way to burn your supplies

[molten forge]

Btw, want a simple dare I guess

[barren coyote]

nah I still suck at hoi4 lol

Even after hundreds of hours

[molten forge]

Don't worry this one easy

[barren coyote]

What is it

[molten forge]

Without the dlc of extra Chinese warlords, make a Chinese warlord actually be like decent size with a normal army, tanks planes all dat

[barren coyote]

Ain't happening

lol

[molten forge]

Wdym

[barren coyote]

I'm not that good lol

[molten forge]

Nah come on bro

[cold frigate]

HOW AM I LOSING

[barren coyote]

Org, you're constantly attacking and you're giving your troops time to organize

[cold frigate]

yeah im jus refunding bro

[cold frigate]

org?

[barren coyote]

organization

[cold frigate]

i attacked cuz nothing was happening

but wdym organization

[barren coyote]

I'd suggest to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1OYc4gaxg0

[eternal aspen]

winning isn't hard

it's knowing when to push and when to hold

[mystic nest]

yo

[eternal aspen]

yo

[mystic nest]

u down to continue?

[eternal aspen]

cant rn, little busy with doing everything around the house

[mystic nest]

allg

[eternal aspen]

i've got more stuff to do in less time than my spouse, yet here i am stuck doing all the cooking, cleaning, dishes, and laundry

[mystic nest]

ouch

[eternal aspen]

as well as being behind why we still have food and a place to live, and yet they don't do nthn bc school is hard

[fleet zenith]

isthiswinnable

[unique jackal]

which china is easiest to unify with

[mystic nest]

they all kinda suck but historials probably the easiest to start with as theres the most guides and advice

[mystic nest]

rip

[unique jackal]

yikes

[eternal aspen]

either PRC or ROC

[mystic nest]

its just that for a beginner japans naval invasion spam is COOKED

[unique jackal]

historical path?

[mystic nest]

if youre not careful you just die

[eternal aspen]

both get focuses to annex the other and to integrate the warlords if they're in the 2CUF

[mild vapor]

Never back down

[woeful knoll]

ROC

nationalists

[eternal aspen]

historical PRC is easier to learn the sino-japanese war though

[woeful knoll]

Its not thard hard bro

[mystic nest]

playing as the prc means oyu hgave to rely on the roc not to utterly sell the game

[woeful knoll]

they can only invade one at a time

[eternal aspen]

don't gotta protect your coast with soggy bread

[mystic nest]

its quite bad if they dont know to guard the ports

[mystic nest]

thats not true either im pre sure

[woeful knoll]

Area defense coastal defense and just right click all ur units to the naval invasion

Ai only does 1 at a time

[eternal aspen]

doesn't work as you should

[mystic nest]

you dont have enough units to afford that honestly

[unique jackal]

around 1939 they start doing 2 at once

[eternal aspen]

and AI sends like 40 divisions in an invasion by 1942

[woeful knoll]

By 1939 u have enough divisons

[eternal aspen]

which is where you end up before you realize it

[woeful knoll]

Same by 42

[eternal aspen]

NO

[mystic nest]

not enough inf eq

[eternal aspen]

you will NOT have enough divs

[unique jackal]

i dont i suck and i never get enough guns

[mystic nest]

nah thats normal for china

you never have enough guns

[woeful knoll]

Men not guns

[mystic nest]

even after begging the middle east to lend lease and using market

[eternal aspen]

you will be busy holding the frontline, your coast, and pushing occasionally

[mystic nest]

men dont matterif they dont have supplies

[vital cove]

im ngl its probably easiest as one of the warlords if you don't care to do Chinese empire and go the path for puppeting the warlords

[mystic nest]

the japanese just smash through unsupplied divs

[vital cove]

you have a focus that just makes warlords your puppets

[woeful knoll]

Not that hard ima play it rn

Ill win by39

[eternal aspen]

a sino with a stick is better than a japanese with a rock or smth idfk i wasn't in that horrible war

[vital cove]

and then you join the war on the Japanese side

[mystic nest]

im talkin for a new player

[vital cove]

and they basically have no chance to get any territory

if you do anything

[woeful knoll]

Khotan ma is the hardest nation in hoi4 bro

Wdym

[mystic nest]

it is definitely hard for a new player

[vital cove]

because cores are much cheaper

[mystic nest]

lmfaoo

[eternal aspen]

it's a total war begginer country kinda strugle

[woeful knoll]

Question, why is china not a major nation i nselection screen

[vital cove]

they're really not

[eternal aspen]

starts off easy, then instantly you're being beated from every angle

[woeful knoll]

Why is it in the corner

[eternal aspen]

it deosn't class as one

[woeful knoll]

Have you defeated sinkaing as khotan ma on historical?

[vital cove]

yes

easily

[eternal aspen]

a major needs to have X industry with specific measures to become one

[woeful knoll]

How do you defeat the 20 width soviet mountineers

[vital cove]

you annex the other mas

you have like 20 divisions

[woeful knoll]

thats the only way

but i said

historical

thats non historical

[unique jackal]

teach me trust

[vital cove]

historical doesn't mean you play historically

also like

[mystic nest]

if you played historically the axis would lose every historical game lol

and thats not very fun

[vital cove]

if you play historical you're supposed to lose

so whats your point

[faint fiber]

skill issue

[vital cove]

if you win that's not historical

[woeful knoll]

Ok lets say you defeat sinkiang

Good luck defeating china as xeibei san ma opposition path

with border wars and 3 factories

[viscid stirrup]

I dont waste my time to debate with fools

[vital cove]

you literally have like 30?

your eco is as big as china

and Japan is helping you

you don't even need to do more than them

[woeful knoll]

goodluck bro

[vital cove]

because in the peace deal everything will be just way cheaper for you

[vital cove]

build rails?

[mystic nest]

someone didnt garrison their ports

[woeful knoll]

wait i forgot

[unique jackal]

i did

[woeful knoll]

heres the actual hardest nation

Khotan ma, emirate path

[mystic nest]

once japan gets more than one naval invasion into a port its over

[unique jackal]

they just got through

[mild vapor]

You get supply via rivers

[woeful knoll]

That is literally impossible

[mystic nest]

did you last stand?

[vital cove]

I've done it before

[woeful knoll]

cuz u cant unify the mas

[viscid stirrup]

Chinese warlords might actually be harder than tanna tuva

[vital cove]

you can

[unique jackal]

no

[mild vapor]

If you can world conquest as luxenburg literally anything is possible

[mystic nest]

always last stand if a ports going to fall

[vital cove]

oh you mean

that path

right

[mystic nest]

it can save you so many times

[vital cove]

yea that probably sucks but doable

[mystic nest]

i genuinely wouldnt be able to beat japan as china if they took away my abilit yto last stand

[vital cove]

you're not supposed to get to that situation to begin with

sit behind the river

[mystic nest]

for ports

i only last stand on ports

[vital cove]

then the rest of your army on port guards

[woeful knoll]

Let me show you guys how easy this is

[mystic nest]

everytime theyre about to break through to a port i just throw out a last stand and it works

[mild vapor]

This is true

(I work at the ports managing commerce)

DerpyPotato does a great job at keeping them safe!

[mystic nest]

trust

its so cooked if you do lose a port like down south though

🥀

[mild vapor]

How do peopel fall for those

Let's be real

[mystic nest]

youd think theyd switch up their scam screenshots

instead of alays sending the same 4

[mild vapor]

Apparently it is still working I guess

[woeful knoll]

This focus is broken

U dont even get any decisions

[mild vapor]

Appears you did not do the focus piror

[ember vine]

Everything is broken in hoi4

[woeful knoll]

i did

with console

i wanted to se it

it doesnt even do anything

[ember vine]

And yet you pay almost a thousand dollars

[mild vapor]

Me when I bypass, autocomplete and ignorepreq focuses and they don't work

Hmmmm

[woeful knoll]

i reloaded and did it again

all prb focuses

didnt work

[uncut pollen]

It is

[mild vapor]

Good job banning them

[woeful knoll]

I hate how china out of all nations has no enggame content

U literally just get wargoals on every major

[unique jackal]

pretty sure prc has some endgame content

[woeful knoll]

Wargoals on every major, yes

[mystic nest]

japans focus tree seems so interesting

but i hate juggling all the factions and the interservice rivalry

and setting up a bajillion naval invasions isnt fun either

[woeful knoll]

pushing through no supply jungle in burma

[ripe slate]

@rich finchPlease dont post nazi symbols in this server

[mild vapor]

lol

[woeful knoll]

Please dont post ww2 flags in a ww2 server

[prisma steppe]

huh this is a ww2 game

huh

huh

what

[ripe slate]

One that censors all the war crimes and most nazi symbols

[prisma steppe]

but japanese warcrimes are fine?

[inland falcon]

wang jingwei has some

[inland falcon]

no?

[ripe slate]

There not in the game

[mild vapor]

No one really talks about those

[woeful knoll]

This is ok?

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-9392003928868563872

[misty fossil]

why is the game not even starting for me

[ripe slate]

Its their current flag aint it

the naval one isnt

[prisma steppe]

nah this is actually dented

[inland falcon]

you are not pure of heart. the game can tell there is darkness in you and won't open for you.

[misty fossil]

67

[woeful knoll]

is this ok'?

[misty fossil]

anyway

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-idk-this-person-questioning-random-person-this-who-gif-5295285761881556675

[prisma steppe]

dont the italians also have some facist symbols?

[mild vapor]

The Japan Navy Flag is the Rising Sun Flag

[ripe slate]

Exactly

[misty fossil]

did 1.17.5 break everything

i dont want to go back to playing pure vanilla

[inland falcon]

the difference is the german symbol is banned in some places and displaying them is bound to cause more controversy

[misty fossil]

vanilla navy 🤮

[ripe slate]

You shouldnt do that to yourself

[mild vapor]

I will never understand how anyone enjoys Vanilla

[woeful knoll]

I wonder why 🤷‍♂️

[inland falcon]

because germany is the most thought about nation in ww2 and eurocentrism is a thing

[uncut pollen]

@ripe slate this is a Filter bypass

[mild vapor]

Black Ops 1 knocking on the door

[woeful knoll]

Nah because the bankers silence everyone

[mild vapor]

Aren't you a moderator

shouldn't you know

[errant remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-what-gif-3784745843284049350

[mystic nest]

mountaineers carry

[woeful knoll]

Rangers?

They added rangers bro

never used them tho

[mystic nest]

no

south east asia has a buttload of mountains

[inland falcon]

mods will get angry over you bypassing a very mild swear word and then let troglodytes like you run around free

[fair horizon]

Didnt know that tbh, thought it was just a war flag

[mystic nest]

mountaineers absolute steamroll through them

[mild vapor]

Mix Mountaineers with Rangers

[mystic nest]

even with no air mountaineers will wipe out south east asia

[mystic nest]

nah you need the other specialsiation for marines as japan

marines are also a must

as japan

[mild vapor]

You can get 3 as Japan

[mystic nest]

so many naval invasions

oh

3??

zayum

aight

[mild vapor]

1 for starting the game, 1 from expanding speical forces deicison and 1 from navy path

[mystic nest]

ah

[mild vapor]

At least in RT56

[mystic nest]

oh

i play vanilla

idk if its diff

[mild vapor]

If anyone is in game and checks the naval focuses they can check

It's like the 2nd or 3rd one all the way to the right

[woeful knoll]

Lol ur mad

Sorry i spoke the truth

[mild vapor]

Is this true?

[heavy vigil]

i love victoria 3

[unique jackal]

r they really?

when i play japan i never make marines

[mystic nest]

as japan? yeah

[mild vapor]

I should of majoried in banking

[unique jackal]

i just naval invade with normal troops

[woeful knoll]

marines genuinely arent useful

[mystic nest]

the amount of naval invasions youre doing onto 1-2 tile places

is insane

[woeful knoll]

Because the moment you land

They r useless

[fair horizon]

Lmao what?

[mystic nest]

???

[fair horizon]

They're special forces bud

[mystic nest]

🥀

[woeful knoll]

Unless your landing onto like malta

[heavy vigil]

hi dripven

hi fw

[woeful knoll]

Yes but then make someone with conbat stats

[prisma steppe]

marines are useless on their own

[woeful knoll]

and not marines

[keen pebble]

im sorta new and im not sure how to get rid of resistance and get compliance up, i want that juicy juicy man power, anyone know what im supposed to do here?

[heavy vigil]

idk how to make your name sound nice, get a nickname

[mild vapor]

Nice rage bait

[fair horizon]

??? i guess special forces bonuses mean nothing

[woeful knoll]

Ok

[mild vapor]

Collab government

It's already over

[woeful knoll]

Once again why make marines when u can make mountineers

[prisma steppe]

yeah i didnt think it through

[woeful knoll]

or rangers

[mild vapor]

local autonomy max

[prisma steppe]

brutal oppression

[woeful knoll]

Marines are only good for the navalcombat which wil lhappen once

[fair horizon]

Because mountaineers dont have good buffs really unless you're fighting in mountains

[mild vapor]

Make a MP template with more suppersion

[prisma steppe]

brutal oppression all the way

[woeful knoll]

High soft attack and insane org?

[mild vapor]

(50 width cav with MP support company)

[fair horizon]

People underestimate naval landings because they have no clue how to do them effectively

[mild vapor]

All the speical forces are broken regardless due to the +10% attack modifer offered in their doctrine paths

Which apply to all speical forces not just the ones from the path

[fair horizon]

All special forces have that btw

[woeful knoll]

Yes but mountains will be more prevalent then naval invasion combat

[mild vapor]

Speical forces are way over represented in hoi

[unique jackal]

r shocktroopers any good? ive never used them b4

[woeful knoll]

And theres a cap on special forces

[mild vapor]

For city bashing

[mystic nest]

wtf are those

[woeful knoll]

So why make marines

[unique jackal]

is this just a rt56 thing?

[mystic nest]

yeah

[mild vapor]

Depends where you are attacking

[mystic nest]

its no tin vanilla

[fair horizon]

so i can open more fronts and weaken the enemy lines?

Im not fighting in the alps 24/7

[mystic nest]

china war without naval invasions challenge!!!

[woeful knoll]

Most places you will need to naval invade will ever be a mountin or jungle

[weary estuary]

Is austrias focus tree any good?

[woeful knoll]

Therefore the other special forces are more useful

For example

China, east indies

Even england

[prisma steppe]

"we dont want to be controversial" - @ripe slate

[woeful knoll]

all special sf for that

[fair horizon]

Peru, usa, italy, spain, yugo, turkey, japan

Need i go further?

[mystic nest]

if im taking a car to somewhere its unlikely that i need the car to move around in that location. therefore a car is not useful

[woeful knoll]

Those are literally asll mountians

[fair horizon]

correct

[woeful knoll]

So make mountineers

to naval invade them

and then push from that

[fair horizon]

or make marines for naval invasions which get way better stats

[mystic nest]

or just do both

[woeful knoll]

Talking singleplayer

They dont even guard ports

[mystic nest]

why are we acting like we cant do both

[fair horizon]

Even singleplayer

They do guard ports

[keen pebble]

whats that mean?

[fair horizon]

Thats specifically what coastal tiles they guard

[mystic nest]

do you have la resistance

[fair horizon]

You naval invade around the ports with regular troops and marines on the ports

[faint fiber]

perfection

[fair horizon]

Stops reinforcements or outright encircles them

[woeful knoll]

There is no singleplayer scenario where you will need to put this much though into naval invasions

[keen pebble]

ive got all the dlc

[woeful knoll]

90 percent of time

itsj ust

naval invade big city

[fair horizon]

its speed bud

[woeful knoll]

Yes stats, marines are better for naval landings

but for taking out italy

you will need mountineers

[fair horizon]

Just say you dont know how to do navy

[woeful knoll]

i do

[mystic nest]

i play without la resistance 🥀 but basically a collab government allows you to capitulate a country faster and you get some nice buffs like better complianc eafter you annex them

[woeful knoll]

i devote my life to navy

I dont make air i make navy

[mystic nest]

no air is insane

[woeful knoll]

i play germany for navy

How dare you say i dont know navy

[heavy vigil]

i play hawaii

[fair horizon]

Waste of time to do navy if you arent gonna do marines

[misty fossil]

bro

I CANNOT START THE GAME

[woeful knoll]

The #1 naval invasion outside of like china is uk

look at uk

all mountian

Yu need mountineers

[misty fossil]

mountian

[fair horizon]

Might as well paradrop it

[misty fossil]

lol the uk has mountains???????

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739835273969664053/1484272868744499331/image.gif

[keen pebble]

but what do i do about my resistance? im not really sure how this garrison thing works

[woeful knoll]

You dont have enough cap to make both

[misty fossil]

dont worry about it

[heavy vigil]

man

[woeful knoll]

Therefore mountineers are more important

[heavy vigil]

NCNS ruined my fun

[misty fossil]

resitance isnt real

[woeful knoll]

Therefore marines r useless

[mystic nest]

yes you do

[fair horizon]

90% of victory points are in england not scotland

[misty fossil]

mountineer

[mystic nest]

just break the cap

[fair horizon]

How so

[heavy vigil]

in mp, as finland, before the update you could be funny and invade north russia

like the supply hubs and stuff

[mystic nest]

coal!!

[heavy vigil]

but now you cant even get supremacy

[woeful knoll]

you literally cant take out rapa nui as chile anymore

[heavy vigil]

its sad

[weary estuary]

Chat does Austria have a focus tree or nah

[woeful knoll]

because your fleet doesnt have 365 dominance

[heavy vigil]

thats realism

[unique jackal]

yes with dlc

[weary estuary]

Is it good?

[fair horizon]

????

[woeful knoll]

Just saying

[heavy vigil]

chile fleet bad

[unique jackal]

id say its good but I like Hungary more

[woeful knoll]

As chile ur starting fleet cant invade rapa nui

[heavy vigil]

well, its fine

just not many ships

[woeful knoll]

Which breaks off during ur starting civil war

[fair horizon]

Chile fleet has battleship

[mild vapor]

Aura

[weary estuary]

Thank you for this information 🫡

[unique jackal]

Pretty much the same thing but less risk

no problem

[fair horizon]

So much aura they sold one of the two

[misty fossil]

do yall have any eaw air and tank mods

[woeful knoll]

"eaw air and tank mods"

How did you feel typing that?

[misty fossil]

You should talk to women

i would skin you alive for saying that

[fair horizon]

Hes playing hoi4 tho

[misty fossil]

Oh yeah hes a loser

[mystic nest]

we play hoi4

[woeful knoll]

Talking about u bruh

u said it

[misty fossil]

i talk to women lmao

[woeful knoll]

You are asking for my little pony hoi4 tank mods

[fair horizon]

Ive talked to flowi once does that count

[woeful knoll]

Neither of us do

[misty fossil]

who are you to judge me for playing a high quality mod

i cant be bothered to do a wc in vanilla

[woeful knoll]

🤦‍♂️

[woeful knoll]

SS officer VS my little pony tank modder

[uncut pollen]

i think he means irl

[woeful knoll]

Who gets more girls

[uncut pollen]

not discord

[misty fossil]

yeah irl

[mystic nest]

all majors conquest in vanilla is basically a wc without the suffering anyway

[misty fossil]

vanilla wc sucks

i dont want to go to chile

or new zealand

[mystic nest]

its over

[woeful knoll]

Like why do u need 240 days to convince everyone to invade bhutan

[mystic nest]

yuh

[woeful knoll]

Even when ur the onlu other country on earth

[mystic nest]

so i havent done a full wc yet

and i dont plan on doing one

ever

for the sake of my sanity

[woeful knoll]

only way i would do a wc is with console

allowdiplo

[fair horizon]

:(

[woeful knoll]

and just declare on everyone instantly

[mystic nest]

annex all

!!!!

[vale stratus]

wc is very time consuming

this time with wc is little garbage 240 days or 180

bruh

[mystic nest]

and boringgg

[vale stratus]

and its only new zeland or some micro country

[vale stratus]

fr fr

[misty fossil]

butahn

[fair horizon]

I did a wc as australia

[mystic nest]

💀

someone likes suffering

[fair horizon]

2 of them actually

[vale stratus]

yea you really are lord admiral

[mystic nest]

pre australia rework is insane

i played australia once

its like bottom 5 enjoyable countries

[fair horizon]

Just jealous of my island wasteland

[vale stratus]

its good to play austrialia btw? like its mostly naval landing

or from air

[fair horizon]

No its horrible and ill be eternally angy at paradox if they make it worse in the dlc

[vale stratus]

so its like i was thinking

lets wait to crack another dlc :3

i will not pay thousands pln just to hoi be playable