hoi4-general

[rain loom]

For the memes

[woeful knoll]

4mph tank divison?

If you want to use infantry and tanks

[terse skiff]

Yes speed doesn't matter

[rain loom]

Heavy tank

[woeful knoll]

make a infantry divison with tanks in it

not tank with infantry

[terse skiff]

Why don't you ask someone to build tanks with inf and you do tanks with motorized and see who wins?

[woeful knoll]

Yes

[terse skiff]

Also all armored divisions are inf/mech divisions with tanks in them

[woeful knoll]

Iwill win because my tank divison will outrun and encircle him while he slowly drives

[terse skiff]

I sure hope you're not doing 15 tanks 3 mechs

Sure

Now go try it

[woeful knoll]

whats your template bro

[terse skiff]

9/9 spgs and inf/mech

Templates are like the least you should worry

Industry and production matter way more than one more inf in your division

[woeful knoll]

"SPGs" shows me ur a scrub bro

SOFT ATTACK SOFT ATTACK! ok how about you play the game as intended

and i can literally just outrun ur tank divisons with 2 width morotized

keep it speedy bro

[terse skiff]

The intended way to play the game is for it to be a laggy bugfest

[fathom shard]

depends on the context but for tanks you'd always want to be over 6kmh

[vital cove]

yeah that's not how that works

[woeful knoll]

how does it work

[vital cove]

at best, fast tanks will just mean you outrun your supply lines

speed doesn't really matter

but you can use cav

or camels

if you want to not use inf

[runic spoke]

wtf is going on

[quartz valley]

something change or it's normal since the new dlc i can't easly enter urss with germany with flame tank and all ?

[fathom shard]

name one thing in this screenshot

[snow rain]

the only thing that really changed recently was the anti air stat that was increased in requirements, so if you didn't build air that might be it

[fathom shard]

are you french

[snow rain]

local police force occupation law with 40% compliance 😭
just use civilian oversight, 0 reason not to there

[snow rain]

yup

[fathom shard]

the guy is french you should probably tell him in french

[snow rain]

rule 1

[woeful knoll]

i love how china literally has teleporting divisons

[quartz valley]

maybe, i got some fighter but not much cas

[woeful knoll]

and is the only country in the game to have useless lakes everywhere

yeah china is now impossible to defeat nice

they got a huge buff in latest patch

[quartz valley]

?????

[woeful knoll]

they got buffed bro

[snow rain]

they don't
and lakes are very much present in finland for example

[quartz valley]

skill issue maybe for this ?

[snow rain]

ai doesn't cheat, contrary to what popular belief tells you

[quartz valley]

in every game japan destroy china

[snow rain]

all their buffs are listed in the difficulty settings and it's only supply grace, consumption and fuel consumption

and yeah, china is still easy to cap if you know what you're doing

[woeful knoll]

3 month long battle
finally reinforce meme them
99 green bubble on the other battles
look away for 1 ms, 3 new warlord troops have literally teleported to save the pocket

full strenth divs in 37 btw

[snow rain]

if a battle lasted for 3 months you did something wrong

your divs are probably not adapted to attack

[quartz valley]

fr

[woeful knoll]

6x2 spam with artillery

[snow rain]

you probably didn't use air

[woeful knoll]

im trying to snake

but i cant

cuz they have infinete telporters

[quartz valley]

you got enough gun, arty and everything else in stock ?

[snow rain]

not made to attack

[snow rain]

ai don't teleport

they strat redeploy, sure, but you do too

[woeful knoll]

Im going to restart and record it

[snow rain]

don't froget to naval invade ports to thin up their line and do collab governements on china so you don't have to take 90% of their land to cap them

[frail kite]

Hey can someone help me I just found out a new special project m3 satan tank

[fathom shard]

through bugs they can

[frail kite]

As USA what is it ?

[quartz valley]

?

[fathom shard]

ai will never be perfect

[frail kite]

Or should I pick mill engineering instead?

[snow rain]

the TP bug happens when you force retreat divs. AI can't force retreat

[quartz valley]

never perfect but never cheat too

[snow rain]

most people that complain that AI cheat just don't understand what's happening

doesn't mean AI cheats, just means you're missing something

same as people that say the game's bad when they're struggling because not paying attention to the big ass red bubbles everywhere and the billion alerts at the top of the screen

[sand heath]

wtf

[fathom shard]

pretty sure it's linked to that event about navy or something

[twin nebula]

@fresh thorn why are you a nazi?

[sand heath]

yeah something like that

but still

I've done the same shit like 3 times

and nothing happened

[fathom shard]

not all complaints are ignorance

they might be reacting to intentional AI buffs or asymmetric design choices

[snow rain]

as I said, the only AI buffs they get is listed in the difficulty settings, and it's basically nothing

[fathom shard]

the buffs AI gets are not negligible in impact idk what you're on

[snow rain]

gimme a sec

[fathom shard]

hoi4 is literally entirely based on snowballing, those modifierss compound massively over time

[slender onyx]

everytime i open hoi4 it crashes can anyone help me please?

[fathom shard]

that's a very detailed crash

[snow rain]

the buffs in question :

elite difficulty

there is basically no impact on the AI except for extreme late game where UK can run both its whole fleet and airforce at the same time

[fathom shard]

there's modifiers that AI gets beyond those difficulty sliders lmao

[snow rain]

no?

[fathom shard]

obviously if you only take count of that it doesn't seem meaningful

[snow rain]

I await the proof of those hidden modifiers

[fathom shard]

dissent is buffed by 20 in regular for the ai

that is not shown in the difficulty slider

[snow rain]

"dissent" ?

[slender onyx]

wait i fixed the crash

can one of you guys teach me how to play

[snow rain]

you mean resistance ? compliance ?

or a modifier on territory you occupy from the AI ?

and again, where do you take this info from ?

[fathom shard]

even if you don't count those modifiers in, AI is technically still buffed over decision weights and strategic planning scripts
And bugs can be pretty frequent, while it is not recognized as a buff it can be in some situations

[olive kite]

hey i'm novice and if i play in "elite" mode what happening, its hard??

[snow rain]

decision weight are generally a nerf for the AI

like sov not putting everything on ger border or UK not defending egypt as it would any other territory or it'll roll the italians

[fathom shard]

it depends on the situation

[snow rain]

I'm gonna have to ask for examples, once again

because decision weight is there, at worse (for the player), to prevent them from not doing useful stuff (ie : japan requesting indochina from france after vichy event)
there is nothing the AI does that the player can't

[woeful knoll]

this run they had double divison count

[fathom shard]

well again it depends on the players experience and skilll

[woeful knoll]

u literally need to rng roll to be able to beat china lmao

because they get infienete buffs for all 2 china players

and now i lost cuz i didnt defeat them in a week

[fathom shard]

depends when you declare on them

[woeful knoll]

great game design paradox

[snow rain]

then it's a skill issue (not in a bad way, but in the literal term)

[fathom shard]

in 1937 it's very easy

[woeful knoll]

27 july and they are impossible to push

[vital cove]

uh

you can battleplan china

[snow rain]

aim to encircle, capture supply hubs, don't attack endlessly with no clear goal

[vital cove]

by start of 38

with no issues

[woeful knoll]

dont say uh cuz sometimes they have no divisons and sometimes they have 100 per tile

[fathom shard]

you don't need to do this lmao

[snow rain]

OR

battleplan with CAS and maxed out collab governement

[woeful knoll]

they def have a rng roll to see how op they are

[sweet ibex]

hey guys

[vital cove]

there is no rng

[fathom shard]

you can capitulate china by may 1937 without microing

[sweet ibex]

how do ig et the little tag thing next to my name?

[vital cove]

and china is not op

[snow rain]

I'm tired boss ...

[vital cove]

china got massively nerfed

in ncns

[woeful knoll]

There literally is

another example

[fathom shard]

massively

what are we on bro

[woeful knoll]

sometimes shanxi puts 20 divs on northern border

sometimes they have 2

theres a rng to see how many divs china makes

[vital cove]

china got massively nerfed and japan massively buffed

yes

[snow rain]

that's because AI concentrate troops for offensives

[vital cove]

in everything

[snow rain]

and they respond to your troops

[woeful knoll]

nice and my moronic ai puppet got me encircled in the north

[snow rain]

if their front is stable somewhere and isn't somewhere else, they'll shuffle troops around

[vital cove]

don't attack there

[woeful knoll]

is this salvageable?

[quartz valley]

how can i survive against japan as communist china ?

[vital cove]

ignore the north

[woeful knoll]

i didnt the ai did

[vital cove]

hold there witb puppet troops

don't let your puppets keep their troops

take them

[snow rain]

equip your divs, use your airforce, don't wander into no supply areas except to cleanup and yes

[fathom shard]

china got both nerfed and buffed

[azure palm]

Whats the difference between battleships and battlecruisers?

[fathom shard]

it wasn't a massive "nerf" like you said

that's just false

[vital cove]

you're attacking with troops not made to attack

[lethal ether]

if youre dependant on a nerf what are you without it

[woeful knoll]

im following feedbackgaming strategy

[fathom shard]

then you're doing everything wrong

ive done his strategy (even though it's not his) like 10 times and most of the time i capitulated them before july, and twice before june

[vital cove]

ok first step: ignore most youtubers

[fathom shard]

first step: ignore free knowledge

smart take

[woeful knoll]

🤦‍♂️

[turbid thorn]

ho

how

[fathom shard]

they shouldn't have that much troops on the front in 1937

[woeful knoll]

thats what im saying dude

they literally teleported out of nwohere

they got buffed in the recent patch

[fathom shard]

just restart

[woeful knoll]

i would walk over them before

[vital cove]

*ignore misinformation

[lethal ether]

if they got buffed then restarting wont do nothing

[vital cove]

i wish there were good hou4 youtubers

but

[fathom shard]

feedback's strategy though isn't misinformation

[vital cove]

there aren't any

[fathom shard]

it works if you follow what he does

[woeful knoll]

The strat doesnt work anymopre because china got buffed

Dont believe me? Try it yourself

[snow rain]

[fathom shard]

isn't the strat built on NCNS

[woeful knoll]

the new minor patches

secretely buffed china

[fathom shard]

yeah and when was that

[woeful knoll]

the warships of the pacific

that buffed china

[vocal bolt]

doing my first world conquest

up to 50% of the world

[fathom shard]

when was that

[woeful knoll]

a week ago

[vocal bolt]

the only real enemy is the soviet union at this point

[woeful knoll]

a week ago i wasnt able to beat china anymore

[woeful knoll]

Thats a very big enemy bro

[fathom shard]

ima try it out later

[twilit lake]

does anyone have the dlc file for me to crack?

[vocal bolt]

50% capitulated

[woeful knoll]

yes bro try it

[snow rain]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-gif-16508948274886257497

[woeful knoll]

and come back here and u will know im right

[fathom shard]

actually ima try it out rn

[vocal bolt]

the issue is that the ygot chile in their faction and its somehow a major

[heavy vigil]

eugh

[vocal bolt]

I gotta go through the entire south american continent to end the war

[woeful knoll]

South americian and africian countries shjould not be allowed to become majors

unless they do special forable nations

[snow rain]

help

[lethal ether]

[vocal bolt]

they did somehow

chile is major

[snow rain]

all countries can become majors

[vocal bolt]

and this isnt veen hositroical ai off

[slender onyx]

can someone please teach me how to play

[vocal bolt]

holy typo

[heavy vigil]

what do you need help with

is milan still in chat

[sweet ibex]

hi

[sweet ibex]

why is chile a major

[vocal bolt]

thats what am saying

[snow rain]

they think the AI cheats and that china's unbeatable

[lethal ether]

ok

[heavy vigil]

true

[lethal ether]

did it actually get buffed

now i wana try it out too

[heavy vigil]

no

china sucks

[lethal ether]

so what was that guy on about

[heavy vigil]

japan just got nerfed and noobs like to "feel prepared" and wait 5 million years to declare war

china scales more/better

and has a bunch of local supply, surrender limit

so if you take forever theyll beat you

[vital cove]

japan didn't get nerfed

[woeful knoll]

Bro im declaring as soon as possible

[heavy vigil]

they did

you have less civs, less mils

[woeful knoll]

eihher japan got nerfed or china got buffed bro try it

[heavy vigil]

you dont get funny offensive button

50% or whatever stat difference

youre like equal out post china war

but pre china war youre nerfed

china also got nerfed thp

also decisions to spawn like 8 mils are gone

[turbid thorn]

how to get

[molten forge]

won my first spanish civil war

and shit

[fair horizon]

Ah yes the infantry wall with plane spam like every build he ever does

[wide osprey]

i wish hoi5 would have working AA-divs 😔

[grave sonnet]

You gotta invite ottoman loyalists and win civil jihad

[vital cove]

maybe he's better than i thought

[turbid thorn]

i cant

[south mountain]

How fun is hoi4 BICE for you?

[grave sonnet]

Brother I played it once

[vital cove]

pick democrats

[grave sonnet]

And never again

[south mountain]

Was it fun?

[lethal ether]

0 org

[grave sonnet]

Imagine playing Italy

And in africa

Moving

30 days

Per tile

[winged field]

unironically stacking this in one region would work

[fair horizon]

Oops out of oil 0 attack

[turbid thorn]

i picked but

[grave sonnet]

You do anything and u get 5181591 debuffs

[south mountain]

?????

[wide osprey]

ye that's how it was in ww2

😔

[grave sonnet]

I'm sorry

My internet fricked me up

A bit and I replied to the wrong person

[grave sonnet]

Pick democrats and then click in event "our old glory awaits"

[vocal bolt]

I dont have the spy dlc

so I gotta push the soviets to the urals :(

[sage isle]

i do that everytime by choice

spies are annoying micro

[winged field]

i have it and still dont do anything with it xD

[sage isle]

yep me too

[winged field]

just build network to get some buffs

[woeful knoll]

Make sure you produce right horse boots and not just left horse boots for your cavalry

[winged field]

and thats about it

[sage isle]

same here

occasionally a coup

[fathom shard]

@woeful knoll idk what ur on about but china did NOT get buffed

nanjing is empty bro

[limpid zenith]

10m deaths

[marble rune]

As Italy

I keep losing to Ethiopia

[winged field]

https://klipy.com/gifs/pallav-special

[fathom shard]

capped in may 1937 @woeful knoll

nothing changed bro

[quartz valley]

He is just bad

[fathom shard]

capped them so fast qinghai didn't even join

[quartz valley]

Everytime i saw him talk it’s for bad things

[quartz valley]

« May 1937 »

[fathom shard]

yea

[late valley]

can someone recommend a good cold war mod?

[vocal bolt]

question

is there a way to trnasport troops via sea when I have a land route to that place

[lethal ether]

and 50% of the front is empty too

[fathom shard]

yes

[soft escarp]

You're Breaking Rule #2

[plain temple]

по кайфу?

[limpid zenith]

конечно

[late valley]

no

[plain temple]

ну и хорошо

[soft escarp]

No politics

C*ld War is a modern politic

[finite plume]

Changed South America's colors in my mod cause I felt the base game ones were too bleak

[soft escarp]

you're Breaking rule #8 and rule #2

[late valley]

ye idc

[woven gate]

is there a millennium dawn australia mod

[soft escarp]

Don't Make me jail you.

[woven gate]

older than BOTH of my parents btw

[soft escarp]

Youre not following the rules

[finite plume]

Not right now but I believe Australia's content is coming in a future close update

[astral forum]

Bro joined three days ago lmao
I don't think asking about Cold War Mods is banned, cause he's not talking politics, he's just asking bout if there's any mods that are good

[woven gate]

good to know

[quasi osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wait-a-minute-somethings-aint-right-hold-up-somethings-wrong-here-gif-17361118

[soft escarp]

yeah it aint

im larping as a mo

mod

FLowi keeps saying rule #2 and #8 constantly

[finite plume]

Your bio has Reagan in it, a modern politician

[soft escarp]

it has?

[astral forum]

Cold War: Iron Curtain was decent when I played it like a year ago, not finished but I think it's a lot better nowadays
It is a pretty large mod though

[soft escarp]

@uncut pollen is that a rule #2 or #8

[late valley]

wym by large

like focus tree tech and stuff

[astral forum]

Like it'll hella lag out your PC and crash your PC if it's not a decent PC

It's pretty long term with a lot of content

[uncut pollen]

Why are you pinging me all the time?

[soft escarp]

@uncut pollen

[finite plume]

Troll I think

[uncut pollen]

Can't you get me out of your head?

[soft escarp]

no sorry

[uncut pollen]

Are you so deep in love with me?

[soft escarp]

You're Moderating a hoi4 discord server, Expect to get trolled

[soft escarp]

Yeah i am

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[uncut pollen]

Too bad

I have my marijn

[soft escarp]

what?

[finite plume]

Another mod

[soft escarp]

ahh

[hollow drum]

all i do is clash clash clash no matter what

[uncut pollen]

If you are troller than you are not welcome here

Say your last words

[grave sonnet]

Can we clash this bot from the server

[grave sonnet]

Not that deep

[astral forum]

OH MY GOD WHAT TIMING LMAO

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/get-a-load-of-this-get-a-load-of-this-guy-look-at-this-guy-come-on-bruh-gif-18066748999193463069

[grave sonnet]

No not the mrbeast 4pngs

[soft escarp]

Never said i was a "troller", Literally half the people that spoke here yesterday were trolling you, If youre moderating a discord server, Expect to get trolled lmao. Aint so deep to get trolled in discord 😭 🙏

[finite plume]

🗣️

[soft escarp]

@woeful knoll theyre gonna ban me!!!11!!

[quasi osprey]

is this good for a minor nation

[fathom shard]

https://tenor.com/view/socrates-socrates-domain-expansion-domain-expansion-domain-expansion-gif-1437001399510962744

[uncut pollen]

No Filterbypassing

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-skibidi-fortnite-war-nezy-fortnite-horrors-of-war-gif-7547138492306625384

[soft escarp]

😭 ✌️

[finite plume]

Selective enforcement is crazy

[ripe slate]

@finite plumeOh Aali, guess what

[soft escarp]

doing all this for free btw

[finite plume]

Que

I mean what

[ripe slate]

1 sec its loading

[soft escarp]

but flowi, What if i am in deep love with marin?

[ripe slate]

[soft escarp]

also are helicopters usefull in infrantry divs?

[ripe slate]

IIRC theyre rather mid

[uncut pollen]

There is the door

[soft escarp]

artillery is still the best

[finite plume]

Let that sink in

[late valley]

camels obvs the best

[woeful knoll]

elephant

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/let-that-sink-in-sink-door-open-door-meme-gif-11027748423699535107

[finite plume]

https://giphy.com/gifs/writing-write-blackbeard-IFaUfRBSV6rWeGFSye

[soft escarp]

marin im coming!!

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[soft escarp]

elephant

[ripe slate]

[uncut pollen]

You cant

He is already in my cage

[late valley]

what ru doing to em

[finite plume]

Big boss Lincoln abolished that 🗿

[soft escarp]

caged?

what kind of dungeon you got there😭

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/w8aAMtIWkm.gif

INVADING AFRICA WON'T GIVE ME AN ANEURYSM ANYMORE 🙏

[ripe slate]

Im just waiting for the Russian and Chinese translations for it and then Ill upload

[finite plume]

Alrighty

Thank you Marijn

[ripe slate]

[soft escarp]

are you a road to 566

creator

ceo

[finite plume]

I will give an award on the mod

[soft escarp]

mod

[uncut pollen]

Also @ripe slate i finaly got my plushie

[ripe slate]

Im the 2nd in command basically

[late valley]

damn thats cool

[soft escarp]

thats a proper mod

thats a good mo

[ripe slate]

Epic

[soft escarp]

mod

[finite plume]

Wrong reply mb Herba

[soft escarp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-random-einstein-iZkua1UPocHgQ

[uncut pollen]

Yep now i got a cute boy and a fluffy boy to hug

[late valley]

@uncut pollen is smarter then Einstein

[finite plume]

Coup them

[soft escarp]

rule #6 and #7 broken

https://giphy.com/gifs/GrindCoin-67-6-7-six-seven-YaP3iYxN3T8nIEN5rD

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-better-call-saul-saul-goodman-saul-sweep-titans-gif-21970301

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[soft escarp]

im actually very low cortisol

[late valley]

im high cortisol

[soft escarp]

Dudes discord is barely a year old

Damn nephew😭

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/vSeOjdoaNq8.gif

[sturdy blade]

He's too humble. He's the de facto CEO

[soft escarp]

dindt know today was a "bring your kids to work" day😂 😂 ✌️

[late valley]

Ye my parents should have made me sooner so i had a wider time to make a discord acc

[soft escarp]

yeah

Can you even work?

[ripe slate]

Hello Spicy

[late valley]

do u also work on that mod

[ripe slate]

And we work on the Czechoslovakia DLC together

[finite plume]

Hey Marijn

[ripe slate]

[sturdy blade]

Technically yes, actively on the code base no.

[soft escarp]

i work 12 hours a day.

[finite plume]

I tried reducing the size of the Zuiderzee

[late valley]

holy shit thats cool for how long have u been coding in general

[finite plume]

Cause Vanilla's version is hella enlarged

[sturdy blade]

I basically just do HR now

[late valley]

dats nice

[soft escarp]

12 hours a day.

[late valley]

One day ur gonna have a company and ur gonna be ceo trust

[soft escarp]

top 100 Quotes of the Sigma community

[ripe slate]

on HOI things, 2019, on other games 2017~

[soft escarp]

Buy my course for a low price of 1499,99€ a month and retire by 21

[late valley]

ur pronounces is smth from dexter 🙏🙏🏻🙏🏿

[late valley]

What other games have u worked on?

[soft escarp]

no? its from my cousin but originally from dexter

i havent edited my profile since like 2025

[lilac python]

Playing as Serbia in tno so fun wth

[soft escarp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kawaii-uwu-owo-HAi4i45T0pAdGERov4

[late valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cortisol-level-gif-2410901269072201082

[soft escarp]

whats the meta for navy rn?

sub spam?

[ripe slate]

made a few PAYDAY 2 and Fallout series mods, and bugfix patches for CK3 and some really niche game

[finite plume]

Marijn 🙏

[soft escarp]

destroyers?

[finite plume]

The tilde "~" goes BEFORE the estimate ✌️

If it goes after then it sounds zesty

[soft escarp]

2017 i was working construction

[ripe slate]

Isnt zesty positive?

[finite plume]

To each their own

[astral forum]

Marjins true motives lmao

[finite plume]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-american-psycho-oh-obviously-donald-kimball-gif-10547554943860686477

[vocal bolt]

they gotta rework soviet capitulation

there is no way they shouldnt cap past siberia

[finite plume]

I mean

[vocal bolt]

what is there left to fight for at that point

that place is a goddamn wasteland

[finite plume]

It IS the biggest country in the world

[soft escarp]

Thanks for describing Itä-helsinki

[late valley]

oh wow i really wanna try out ck3 But idk i have played ck 2 before

[marble rune]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9lK47pXu2xE?si=h3SXxfIbW1xS7PYc

[astral forum]

Honestly it’d be cool if they made it show more of Stalins internal debate of staying or leaving and giving different buffs or debuffs either way
Like if he stays and Moscow was captured or smth theres a chance he gets taken prisoner and the Soviet war ends, but he gives more stability and core defense attack or smth, whereas if he leaves the USSR joins the Allies or something and fights from exile, but theres tanks to stability and war support or something

idk I found that wwii graphic novel book by the french dude (i forget his name) and a lot of what was in it made me want to mod in some more of these irl things like that

[woeful knoll]

german soviet war as a whole needs a rework

it should be a long war with phases

the soviets should start of extremely weak and get stronger and harder the farther you go in

[quasi osprey]

[woeful knoll]

rn its just whoever can spam more

amd the german ai cant even push past kyiv

[astral forum]

Weird, bc most games the German AI almost always caps the hist Soviet AI in my games

[soft escarp]

they get Mango aura at stalingrad💀

[woeful knoll]

Bruh what

[prisma steppe]

its a gamble

[woeful knoll]

Either way its completely unrealistic and broken

[prisma steppe]

german ai is super inconsitent

[quasi osprey]

retaking the capital

[prisma steppe]

like sometimes they got like 40 tanks in 39 and steam roll everything other times they cant even field 100 divs in 41

[soft escarp]

i was once playing as the ussr

[prisma steppe]

ussr is so fukcing easy

[woeful knoll]

one time i was playing as like rexist belgium or some other axis nation and they took 2m casualties pushing through the maginot before they did the benelux war goals

[quasi osprey]

minor nation btw

[woeful knoll]

attacking ussr isnt easy bro

[quasi osprey]

bye bye

[woeful knoll]

playing it is if thats what ur saying

[prisma steppe]

minor ?!?!? 🤤

[quasi osprey]

yes

[prisma steppe]

nah defending

[woeful knoll]

exactly lol

[astral forum]

I think that's primarily a templates/dats issue

[prisma steppe]

like just build some okish inf with at guns and shit push the germans

[native thistle]

Whats up with hoi4 Beta? i dont understand what is it about

[astral forum]

Naval rebalancing atm I believe

[quasi osprey]

bruh just noticed I accidentally became a major idk how

[woeful knoll]

tbh ive only attacked them twice as germany

[prisma steppe]

like the germans need initiative if they lose it its joever

[native thistle]

hmm cool

[woeful knoll]

ship cost design and range

if your into navy like me do it

if not dont bother

[sweet ibex]

why cant we have socialism in hoi4

[prisma steppe]

go play vic3

[woeful knoll]

Take a wild guess

[sweet ibex]

im bad at it

[grave sonnet]

Mods bros mods

[woeful knoll]

Why cant we have fascism in hoi4

[prisma steppe]

why cant we have actual genoc'de?

like its we need to farm ai to commit it

[woeful knoll]

regulations i think

u can do brutal oppresion occupation if ur fascist tho

[prisma steppe]

the devestation mod litterly adds the parameter of refugees and civilians "lost"

[woeful knoll]

so i guess thats how paradox puts in it

[woeful knoll]

thats the problem

why does nukes or casualties not effect ur population count

[prisma steppe]

and vici had genoc'de

or stellaris

[woeful knoll]

you can take 5m casualties as luxomburg and nothing will change

[prisma steppe]

or eu4/5

but noo germany cant do something historical

that made them lose the war

[quasi osprey]

bye 12 divs

[prisma steppe]

really scraping the barrel with the italian militas there

[astral forum]

Generally I do 24 w or 36 w infantry depending on how early the war is with 1-2 battalions of light tanks, support arty and aa
Make sure you have good air support (I put my tac bombers on their tracks, airfields, and supply hubs) and are keeping track of supply, and rush for their oil fields and the encirclement you can get there along with their major victory points

[quasi osprey]

its nice that my capital automatically changes to kiev even though it started as kovel

[astral forum]

It's always worked for me and it's not even that good

[woeful knoll]

i beat them with the usual

[prisma steppe]

now you need khiva for the true capital

[woeful knoll]

encirclement and snaking

idec about tanks

something i found, tanks, div templates, all that stuff literaly makes me worse at the game

i can easily destroy anyone without them but with them the game is hard

[quasi osprey]

encirclements😇

[prisma steppe]

based

i fukcing love the devastation mod overhaul

[lilac python]

W anti communist action

They are taking heavy casualties btw

[quasi osprey]

yay

onother one

[lilac python]

Season 5 of the boys gonna be peak

[ripe slate]

Wrong chat but yeh, looking forward to it

Invincible also having its new season rn

[lilac python]

Found this

[crimson crane]

Should I do Plan Z or Trade Interdiction first as germany?

[finite plume]

Reworked the country colors of the Americas

[cedar coral]

what the hell was that

[crude grotto]

the lion cares not about terrain debuffs (it has a -133% attack bonus into forests)

[fathom shard]

what even is this bro

1 tank takes 3 supply hubs to supply

[crude grotto]

really?

[quartz valley]

communist china is so hard

[quasi osprey]

[crude grotto]

i didnt know ts

[crude grotto]

what?

[fathom shard]

exaggeration but you don't need that much

[cedar coral]

not even that hard

[crude grotto]

maybe on historical

[sage isle]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-soprano-gif-3684487407721931782

[crude grotto]

but communist china is easy

[fathom shard]

remove like 7 tanks

[terse skiff]

More like 5 such divisions max out supply of a max supply supply hub

[sage isle]

this is literally base game map wdym

[quartz valley]

ofc yes

[fathom shard]

and why would you use motorized infantry for the result of 4.0 kmh

[crude grotto]

thats not my main tank division

[crude grotto]

org

[fathom shard]

org barely matters

[crude grotto]

eh

okay then

[quartz valley]

because communist china got nothing against plane so every fort get destroy

[crude grotto]

its all heavy tanks now

[quartz valley]

and others china country do nothing

[crude grotto]

research anti air

then build some

yeah they only have 2 research slots but eh

[fathom shard]

communist china is really easy

just spam militia with anti air

[woeful knoll]

exactly

[woeful knoll]

Bro jsut get ur militia buffs

Border war shanxi

Justify on heibei charar

take them out

hold beiping

and just get all ur militia buffs and encircle japan

you can beat them by like 1939 if u really tried

[crude grotto]

here's my actual tank division

[fathom shard]

just use medium tanks instead of medium tanks + heavies

[woeful knoll]

thats not a tank divison

[fathom shard]

and

[woeful knoll]

thats a motorized infantry divison

[fathom shard]

you want it to be 36 width

[sage isle]

give that baby some armored engis and some anti air

[crude grotto]

theres only mediums in that div

[fathom shard]

something like this

[sage isle]

nah its a tank div with motorized support

[crude grotto]

okay braheim

[sage isle]

jesus really? how do yall get that kind of production?

[fathom shard]

i mean that you shouldn't make medium and heavy tanks and focus on producing one

[crude grotto]

why are the tanks behind the mech

[fathom shard]

if you play as a major it's very easy

[woeful knoll]

germany

[fathom shard]

it doesn't change anything

[woeful knoll]

1940 germany

[sage isle]

literally only germany or america

[woeful knoll]

or soviets

or uk

[sage isle]

ah fair, i dont play commies

[crude grotto]

i have 1500 mills

i dont matter that much

[fathom shard]

germany, usa, japan, ussr, uk

[fathom shard]

it does

[woeful knoll]

japan couldnt afford that

[crude grotto]

not really

[fathom shard]

because you're still wasting supply using those heavy tanks

[quartz valley]

" encircle japan " when communist china can't 5 vs 1 a japan troops

[crude grotto]

dude

[fathom shard]

and why would you produce bullshit like that

[crude grotto]

its a joke division

[woeful knoll]

Share a screenshot of ur game

let me see

[crude grotto]

the only major left is japan

[fathom shard]

your actual division is even worse

[crude grotto]

how dare thou

it works

[fathom shard]

if you have 1500 mils why produce a medium tank like this LMAO

[crude grotto]

?

[woeful knoll]

Why are you producing tanks for japan anyways

Tanks will be useless

[fathom shard]

dude you have 2 useless support companies and 6 tnak divs for 8 mots

[crude grotto]

i made tanks for the other countries

[woeful knoll]

Let me guess you paradropped france?

[crude grotto]

the supports were in the og div and i just havent taken them out

[woeful knoll]

I get the feeling you use paratroopers

[crude grotto]

yeah

[woeful knoll]

How did i know

Just stop talking your a scrub

[crude grotto]

its easy

[crude grotto]

so?

[fathom shard]

have you atleast researched flame tanks

and the assault engineer company

[crude grotto]

yeah i dont use them lwkirk

[fathom shard]

are you ragebaiting

[crude grotto]

no

i dont need them

[fathom shard]

yes

[woeful knoll]

Its a paratrooper user

[eternal shoal]

i just failed my first game

[woeful knoll]

They just act like this

[crude grotto]

brother

[woeful knoll]

What?

[crude grotto]

i used paratroopers twice

[eternal shoal]

italy sucks

[crude grotto]

once for france and to get the ports on the UK

[woeful knoll]

Paratroopers as italy shows me ur trash and you rely on bugs to play the game

[crude grotto]

yeah

[crude grotto]

its not a bug

[woeful knoll]

There is 0 reason you shouldnt be using the navy as italy

[crude grotto]

naval invasions take too long to set up

im not waiting that long

[woeful knoll]

🤦‍♂️ Nice ragebait bro

[eternal shoal]

like the tanks sucks the production capacity sucks.....

[fathom shard]

it's free stats

[crude grotto]

dont use tanks as italy for a while

[woeful knoll]

All countries have the same tanks

[eternal shoal]

Will I did focus on this one because I was scared to be invaded and I had dominance for most of the games on my Mediterranean

[crude grotto]

just inf spam

[sour geyser]

Did hoi4 remove xp gained from training or is my game bugged?

[eternal shoal]

really??

[crude grotto]

game bugged

[woeful knoll]

yes

[sour geyser]

Aight, thanks

[crude grotto]

youre welcome twin

[fathom shard]

breakthrough is calling

[crude grotto]

its for early game italy

theres not much else you can do

[fathom shard]

mountaineers

[quartz valley]

( buncker damage 100% )

[fathom shard]

with spg

[crude grotto]

infantry

[sage isle]

INF SPAM

[woeful knoll]

You need to expand bro

Restart and border war shanxi

then justify on heibei

[quartz valley]

yeah and after how i defend shanxi ?

[crude grotto]

lock in

[woeful knoll]

You dont

[crude grotto]

entrench with militia

[woeful knoll]

Its not hard to survive as china mate

[sage isle]

we got any cav lovers in here?

[woeful knoll]

Also i see an infantry divison

Do not use ifnantry as prc

Spam militia

[fathom shard]

bro you died to china as japan

[crude grotto]

mapuche cav 🤤

[woeful knoll]

Couldnt push not died

[fathom shard]

essentially died

[sage isle]

love you pookie

[woeful knoll]

Secondly thats because china is op so playing them is easy

[crude grotto]

thanks gangilang

[quartz valley]

china get crush

every single game

[fathom shard]

are you serious

[sage isle]

you got it big dawg

[woeful knoll]

Restart and do the justify strat

[fathom shard]

china is shit early game

[woeful knoll]

Yes

[fathom shard]

even late game

[crude grotto]

thats because chiang is a fraud

lock in and dig in the japanese

[cursive oxide]

The average human can see 30-60 fps so how dose the average person see 60+ fps ?

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[woeful knoll]

"china is shit"

[crude grotto]

if its the average person they dont

[woeful knoll]

They have infiete manpower

thats not shit

[vivid juniper]

Austria and Hungary have the most annoying focused trees in non-historical they will literally declare war everyone and get crushed and make a mess up the map

[crude grotto]

man power as communist china isnt the problem

[woeful knoll]

Thats historical austria hungary mate

[fathom shard]

infinite manpower in question

[crude grotto]

its getting the guns for your troops

[woeful knoll]

are you playing in open beta

that might be why its hard for ne

[fathom shard]

who even plays in open beta

[woeful knoll]

they may have buffed it in open bata

[fathom shard]

people who wants to experience bugs?

[crude grotto]

also getting the pope in power in italy is so damn tedious

[woeful knoll]

Me because it fixes phillipines

[crude grotto]

it pmo

[fathom shard]

then why play japan iin open beta

if you play open beta for phillipines

[woeful knoll]

Your right

tahst prob why bro

[fathom shard]

and obviously open betas aren't final

[cursive oxide]

Guys what's the fastest you formed a nation ?

[fathom shard]

they're meant for testing

[woeful knoll]

A day when i typed -annex all into console

[fathom shard]

through decisions?

[quartz valley]

so when i start with communist china i take land of shanxi, create anti air ?

[woeful knoll]

Dont make anti air

Spam guns

[crude grotto]

yeah

[woeful knoll]

And a little bitt of artillery anti air and support

add them when ur super china

but when ur weak spam guns

[cursive oxide]

Yes as in annex and then press form

[crude grotto]

just make as many guns as you can and spam out militia

[quartz valley]

when i say anti air i mean the building

[woeful knoll]

No mate

[cursive oxide]

[woeful knoll]

make a level 1 fort line after u take out heibei

hold it

and build factories

[fathom shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGFvAR1Cuzg&t=473s

[woeful knoll]

aa building is useful for like

england

[crude grotto]

i thini i got the HRE in like mid 1939 once

[fathom shard]

that's pretty bad

[cursive oxide]

Rookie I got Austria Hungary in October 1936

[crude grotto]

oh my god leave me alone brah

[fathom shard]

i mean let's be real

[crude grotto]

holy tuff

[quasi osprey]

is 90 factories by 1941 good?

[woeful knoll]

No

If ur a big country

for a little one yeah

[cursive oxide]

No annex focuses BTW

[quasi osprey]

well i started with 3 civs

[crude grotto]

what the john

[woeful knoll]

Quite literally not possible

How?

[crude grotto]

okay thats pretty good

[cursive oxide]

It's called Czechoslovakia civil war exploit

Aka faction exploit

[woeful knoll]

Genuinely why is asutria hungary formable in the game

There is a austria hungary focus tree

but u can just ignore it and form it and get all ur cores

[quasi osprey]

and I also controll a large part of the world's oil

hope america doesnt realise that💀

[restive spear]

This is not historical

[quasi osprey]

it often happpenswhen you do smth unhistorical

[fathom shard]

im pretty sure blue ussr isnt neither

[cursive oxide]

@woeful knoll https://youtube.com/shorts/2jiCvX5fLt4?si=2aczOjVPov7gD6ec

[restive spear]

its not ussr

im playing russia reworked mod

and opposition focus tree

[fathom shard]

yeah play ahistorically get ahistorical stuff

[patent thistle]

sure as hell is quite a fleet

[cursive oxide]

It ain't hard guys

[restive spear]

bro

this is historical mode on

the mod doesnt affect any nation other than ussr

[quasi osprey]

yeah but u played ahistorically

[fathom shard]

can you read

[cursive oxide]

That's the wind ?

[restive spear]

So what?

[fathom shard]

then you get ahistorical stuff

[restive spear]

that doesnt mean other nations will be ahistorical

[fathom shard]

what yo udo as a player affects what the ai does

[fathom shard]

it does

are you new

[restive spear]

nope

i just rarely play vanilla

mostly tno requiem and other total conversion mods

[quasi osprey]

it often affects other countries the exaxt same thing happened when I played germany civil war

[fathom shard]

we can't see shit make it a full video

[cursive oxide]

Wil soon thinking of make some hoi4 content

[restive spear]

tno requiem hyperborea path

[cursive oxide]

I mostly do war thunder content to

[restive spear]

okay

[spring relic]

hello

[fathom shard]

you also get at war with uk but ig thats cool

[spring relic]

does cruiser spam woprk for current navy

[cursive oxide]

Not if you do it right

[fathom shard]

in the end of the video you're at war with uk

[cursive oxide]

True dose not always happen to

[fathom shard]

but it mostly will

you also have to fight off germany later

[cursive oxide]

The joined the Czech faction but still ik joined

[cursive oxide]

Or join them

[fathom shard]

don't they kick you out of axis right before they declare

[cursive oxide]

You can also do it the communist way

https://tenor.com/view/daffy-duck-communist-communist-daffy-ours-scmaverick-gif-10615082734019286417

[fathom shard]

im gonna try it rn

[cursive oxide]

O btw you have like 1.22miloen manpower and like a good amount of factories and you can do you're fort focused to hold out the Germans

[fathom shard]

yeah but you would still be at war with axis and allies at the same time

thats alot of fronts to manage

[cursive oxide]

The hard thing is the army build up cus the exploit needs you to start civil war with 0 units

[patent thistle]

bro be wearing that tag like a badge of honor- 💀

[cursive oxide]

Not if you go to war with them wil in axis and if you do war in axis allies wil safe you're ass

Unless.. comrade you go comie and shoot you're self in the foot

[fathom shard]

whos the socrates guy there

[restive spear]

welp

[fathom shard]

@thorny pond wsp bro

[thorny pond]

u got aids?

[cursive oxide]

No clue

[thorny pond]

yo

[fathom shard]

interesting name u got there

[cursive oxide]

Bro got summend

[thorny pond]

thanks

[cursive oxide]

this guy hates me cus of the way I make Austria Hungary I now that for a fact silly habsburg wil kill me irl if I show him this strat

[hard wedge]

it took too long.

[winged field]

huh?

😭

I guess Im just too high reading this

[prisma steppe]

bro afrika-maxxing

also what the fukc is that name

[winged field]

Netanyahuuuuuuu bomb Romania

they are developing nuclear missiles

[prisma steppe]

@heavy vigil is @thorny pond name acceptable?

[thorny pond]

🤓

[thorny pond]

check ur bank account. +7000$

[winged field]

In Bibi we trust 🙏

[fathom shard]

@cursive oxide it works but austria doesnt join the czech entente cus theyre fascist

so u have to finish em up by yourself

big czechia

[deft frost]

historical accuracy

raveshow of divisions

[fathom shard]

easy

83 factoriess

LOL

[prisma saddle]

AUSTRIA RAHH

[woven gate]

the anime from that gif is older than both of my parents

[severe lion]

rate ts 1-10

[winged field]

Oh, I didnt know that show is that old

[severe lion]

u guys dont know how much ships this wiped

[winged field]

or anime or what is it

[fair horizon]

Improved cruiser and only lecel 2 engine?

[severe lion]

its animanga

[severe lion]

decided to try out 1939

[woven gate]

idk i just know that fun fact

i only watch hetalia

[dusky burrow]

-10

[severe lion]

currently wiped atleast 60 ships in east north sea

[severe lion]

dude i have 300h

and troll or no

[fair horizon]

Does it start without it?

[severe lion]

yes

[fair horizon]

Ah fair enough

[severe lion]

im researching it

[viscid mason]

hello

[severe lion]

wiped france in 10s

no need for benelux

got france before poland somehow

[severe lion]

ive sent my friend about 8 snaps with 3-7 ships lost for uk

i had more tho

[latent estuary]

America in a alternative universe😭

[vital cove]

<@&846894118219022336>

[severe lion]

adam hilt (dont have the doakes gif)

@silk walrusannoying asl

[glacial basin]

yo wassup

[severe lion]

speaking in multi ideological language and spamming

[quartz valley]

doing my job but not china

[severe lion]

how isnt it

[glacial basin]

same bro

[severe lion]

last time i played commie china i had more troops than any ally and fried japan

tho i had no anti air

thought it was french

[low temple]

god you suck mao

[severe lion]

wait its multiplayer

[low temple]

no singleplayer

[severe lion]

some guy sent a related pic earlier

thought u said he sucks

[glacial basin]

deutsch?

[low temple]

im saying that cuz this idiot drew me into a war against the soviets by joining the comintern the last second

[severe lion]

wait commie spain

this is interesting

u dont get to see that ordinarily

[quartz valley]

french like that ? salut cv tfq ?

[glacial basin]

he was speaking welsh btw

[fathom shard]

i did say this btw

[winged field]

ooo Socrates bless us with more wisdom

[vernal arrow]

uh guys how do you use each type of navy, like submarines for attacking convoys or?

[quartz valley]

yeah okay but still china is shit

[winged field]

ya

[quartz valley]

so i am doing my job and china is doing idk what but loosing

good for comu china ?

[dusky burrow]

you can make more effective self-propelled guns for cheaper

[vernal arrow]

destructors for naval invasion support and cruisers for naval supremacy?

[dusky burrow]

alkett is fine for design, just make sure you prodice it with daimler-benz

but you should really have 3 man turret + 2 x hmg turret + max radio

[sudden thistle]

Aren’t capital ships better for naval invasion support

[dusky burrow]

communist china should go for militia

[sudden thistle]

Since shore bombardment

[severe lion]

i just encircled 34 soviets

[fathom shard]

this is cursed

[dusky burrow]

yeah

[winged field]

cl and dd has same role

[upbeat tundra]

H O W

[severe lion]

what mod is that

[vernal arrow]

Oh alright

And warships?

[fathom shard]

vanilla

[severe lion]

then whats the flag u got

[fathom shard]

its a visual mod

[prisma saddle]

guys some achivement as austrian empire?

[fathom shard]

if thats what you meant

immersive flags

[severe lion]

yes

ty

[upbeat tundra]

atleast this isnt this

[winged field]

like BB's?

[upbeat tundra]

what france did

[severe lion]

i like cool flags

[winged field]

for patrol

[fathom shard]

wdym this is peak bro

[vernal arrow]

Ok thank you

[winged field]

u use dd's and cl's to protect your capital ships basically

[severe lion]

im enxircling sm troops god

[upbeat tundra]

not even facist britan and this happens

[severe lion]

i encircled 70 so far

[dusky burrow]

fascist britain doesn't like nazi germany for some reason